1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. Made it to a Friday. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: It's a meat Friday. We have the tregger fired up, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: pulled port today. I think Allan, the it guy, put 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: it on the tregger for twelve hours. We'll take it 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: off the trigger a little bit later on today. Oh 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: that's right. Just Paulie and I here in the back room. Guys, 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Fritzie mclovin seton. Good to have them on board. I 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: was thinking a Memorial Day and of course, you know 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: what came to mind, Michael Jordan's performances on Memorial Day weekend, 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: because this is playoff time. So I had the stats inc. 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Guys go back and I said, give me some Memorial 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Day weekends of Michael Jordan's career. Nineteen eighty nine, the 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Saturday before Memorial Day forty six points in a win 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: over Detroit, including the game winning jumper. Nineteen ninety On 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Saturday and then Memorial Day Jordan had forty seven and 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: then forty two in two wins over Detroit. Nineteen ninety one, 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: Memorial Day Bulls finished a sweep of the Pistons. That 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: was the infamous walking off No. Handshake Game nineteen ninety 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: three Memorial Day Weekend. Jordan had fifty four points in 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: a win over New York nineteen ninety six Memorial Day 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: forty five points as the Bulls finished a sweep of Orlando. 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: Speaking of Jordan, Speaking of the Bulls, Sam Smith, who 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: wrote the great book The Jordan Rules, he will join us. 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about the fallout here. What did 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: he make of Michael Jordan saying Horace Grant was the 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: snitch for the book. Sam will join us a little 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: bit later on. Speaking of writers, Right Thompson, remember when 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: I gave you a heads up for a great Christmas 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: gift that I think last year we had Right Thompson 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: on and he had done profiles of Michael Jordan Tiger Woods. Really, 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: a great writer gets a chance to really get immersed 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: into somebody personality and they allow him to. And Right 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Thompson has another book coming out. It's about Pappy Van Winkle. 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: I think I hope it's in time for Father's Day, 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: because trust me, this will be a great Father's Day gift. 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: But Right Thompson will join us. He also just did 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: another column, an article on Michael Jordan and Michael Jordan 39 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Growing Up has a lot of details about Michael Jordan, 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: the person. So right. Thompson will join us, coming up 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: in the second hour of the show, and I hope 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: he can talk about this book. Pappy van Winkle. It's 43 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: I think it's called Pappy Land. And if you're a 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: bourbon drinker, Pappy is the taj mahal there. It's hard 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: to get and the secondary market's crazy on Pappy van Winkle, 46 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: crazy And I don't think it's an expensive bottle of 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: bourbon when you buy it, if you can buy it, 48 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: it's when somebody else gets it and then they put 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: it up on the secondary market, then it can go 50 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: for a couple of thousand dollars. Chris Weber NBA on 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: T and T see Webb will join us. We'll get 52 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: his thoughts off the Jordan documentary. He always has stories 53 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: when he joins us, and he certainly has some stories 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: about Michael Jordan, I believe. And we have to find 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: this out. Mclovin, can you check. I think Chris Webber 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: was on the Bullets when le Bradford Smith was on 57 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: the Bullets or the Wizards, and that's when Mike, you know, 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: singled out Le Bradford Smith for saying, hey, nice game, 59 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: and you know he created this rivalry with poor le 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: Bradford Smith and then torched him the next time they 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: played one another. But I think Le Bradford Smith and 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: see Webber on that team when Mike singled out Lebradford Smith. Alrighty, 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: welcome to the program, glad. 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Obviously there's a lot going on in 81 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: our country, but for a certain portion of sports fans, 82 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: there are stories that we will click on no matter what. 83 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: Everybody loves a good mock draft, whether it's the NBA 84 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: and that draft coming up, the NFL with the mock 85 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: draft for next year, and then you have NFL rule changes. 86 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: Those aren't far behind because when you think about the 87 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: impact rules have in the NFL in our lives. Every 88 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: single Monday we come in here and we're usually talking 89 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: about a situation that was either right or wrong because 90 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: of a rule a rule change. Now, the owners are 91 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: set to vote next week on two big ones. First, 92 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: the Sky Judge and I hope they called the Sky Judge. 93 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Don't lawyer this up and give me some silly term. 94 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: I want sky Judge. I want somebody to have a 95 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: business card that says Jimmy Lipper Sky Judge. Now we're 96 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: gonna love the sky Judge until the Sky Judge screws up. 97 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: But he or she is supposed to be up there 98 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: helping the officials on the field. With the amount of 99 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: grief that officials receive. It makes a lot of sense. 100 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: The league is also considering an alternative to the on 101 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: side kick. It was a couple of years ago where 102 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: NFL officials said, if we could take the kickoff out 103 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: of the game, we would take the kick off out 104 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: of the game. This was said to me, and I said, well, 105 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: what are you proposing. We want to keep moving the 106 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: kickoff up so all you have our touchbacks. I said okay, 107 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: and I said, well what about punts? Said we can't 108 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: do anything about puns. They're trying to cut down on 109 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: the number of collisions. And that was the word that 110 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: he used, collisions, because the punt return has a lot 111 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: of collisions in it. The kickoff, I don't know what 112 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: the percentages are of kicks returned, but they're they're trying 113 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: to eradicate that. They're trying to If you said it 114 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: went down to zero returns, I think the NFL would 115 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: be happy. But now you have the onside kick, there's 116 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: no run up because they want to cut down on collisions. 117 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: Therefore very little success in an onside kick. Now they're 118 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: talking about a team would keep the ball after a 119 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: score instead of the onside kick. They would have to 120 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: convert a fourth and fifteen from their own twenty five 121 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: yard line, and if they don't, the opposition gets the ball, 122 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: and obviously you're in the red zone there you can 123 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: kick a field goal. At worst. We'll see how the 124 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: owners vote. I have no intel on this, and I 125 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: have not had anybody say, hey, this is going to pass. 126 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: I was told Sky Judge makes a lot of sense. 127 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't know where everybody's This might be gimmicky to 128 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: people and the owners. I don't know that. But the 129 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: rule change would allow a team to do this only 130 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: twice in a game. That would give you know, the 131 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: competing team a chance to attempt to retain possession without 132 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: going through the motions of the on site kick, which 133 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: is what the NFL wants. I don't know if it's 134 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: going to turn into a mess. They're also getting rid 135 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: of the review of the past interference plays, which I 136 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: didn't want in the first place. The NFL has done 137 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: a good job this offseason when you think about it, 138 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: full speed ahead, going to have the draft, all right, 139 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: Virtual Draft week. Still pull it off. You know, we're 140 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: going to release the schedule, all right. No worries here, 141 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: just kind of ease and along. Here may maybe we 142 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: start this season a little bit later. Maybe we don't. 143 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: We're going to get the players in camp. You know, 144 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: I talked to somebody in the medical community who works 145 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: with the NFL about different ways to construct visors the 146 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: face mask. How can you have it where there's some 147 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: protection there. They're they're doing their best moving forward here, 148 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: still garnering headlines. But this is what we talk about. 149 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: We talk about rule changes, We talk about calls. Every 150 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: single week that Monday, we're always looking back on something 151 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: that happened. You know, we've had these changes with the kickoffs. 152 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: The on side kick is recovered at a rate of 153 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: around ten percent the last two seasons, including just over 154 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: seven and a half percent in twenty eighteen, the lowest 155 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: since such data became available in nineteen ninety two. Well, 156 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. If there's no run up. 157 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: You can't get a running start here when you kick 158 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: the ball ten yards. And this was in the XFL 159 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: where or the Alliance of American Football. You know, they 160 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: were trying to do something like this in that season, 161 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: the short lived season. The ball was placed at a 162 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: team's owned twenty eight yard line for a fourth and 163 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: twelve attempt. The Broncos brought this up. That concept has 164 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: been out there for a little over a year. The 165 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Broncos presented a variation off of this, but I think 166 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: that's based off the XFL because the Bronchos said, put 167 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: it at the thirty five yard line. Teams propose rules, 168 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: so you'll see this where the Eagles proposed this rule, 169 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots proposed this rule. This was something the Broncos had. 170 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Now it looks like they're going to back up the 171 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: ball to the twenty five yard line and it's likely 172 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: to be approved. Looks like it's more than likely to 173 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: be approved. It feels gimmicky to me. But it's weird 174 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: how receptive I am to anything right now. Like if 175 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: you just said, hey, football is coming back and they're 176 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: gonna have this, I'm like, yeah, I don't care, yeah whatever, 177 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do, just bring me football now. 178 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: Once this season started, I'll be like, who came up 179 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: with this stupid rule? But if you have this, and 180 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: I'd be curious what some of the players are thinking 181 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: about with this. What coaches, you know, an offensive minded coach, 182 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: a defensive minded coach, what would they be thinking about this? 183 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: But getting rid of the kickoff, right. You know, in 184 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: twenty ten there were two thousand and thirty three kickoff 185 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: returns League One. In twenty nineteen there were nine hundred 186 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: and thirty eight. These were kicks returned. I'll read that 187 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: to you one more time. In the year twenty ten, 188 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: there were just over two thousand kickoff returns League one. 189 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: This past season, same number of games, there were nine 190 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight. If they could take this down 191 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: to five hundred four hundred, they would be thrilled. You 192 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: want to have a kickoff to start the game instead 193 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: of and I still maintain that one of these days 194 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, there's gonna be the twenty five 195 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: yard line. You just start on the twenty five yard line. 196 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: I'd like a kickoff. I just don't want to touch back. 197 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: And that's what when you think about it, how many 198 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: times do you go, oh, kickoff. We used to get 199 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: excited about this because there were guys who made careers 200 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: out of being a great kickoff return men. Now odds 201 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: Art's a touchback, taking it out of the equation. You know, 202 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: think about some of these guys who were great at 203 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: doing this kickoff returns. Devin Hester is probably a Hall 204 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: of Famer because of the kickoff. He wasn't a great 205 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: every down player, wide receiver. I don't know where he 206 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: stands with the Hall of Fame. But as far as 207 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: return men, he became a household name because of that 208 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: returned one in the Super Bowl. But that's where we're headed, 209 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know if people are going to like it. 210 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: You might like it because it is interesting. You know, 211 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: we're adding more excitement to the game. I don't know 212 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: if we need to add more excitement to the game. 213 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: It feels like we're doing well with the game. We've 214 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: opened it up so offenses get to do whatever they 215 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: want to do. That's what we wanted. You want more 216 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: scoring in there that you know for gamblers, for your 217 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: fantasy leagues. You wanted that, and you got it now. 218 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't know where it's headed after that with other 219 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: rule changes, Sky Judge, I'm fine if it helps the 220 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: officials on the field, I'm fine with that because there 221 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: are times when those officials don't want to, you know, 222 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: intercede and go, hey, you made a mistake there. I 223 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: still go back to that was the biggest mistake with 224 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: the Rams in the Saints game, was you had an 225 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: all star crew of officials. If you had the regular 226 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: officials in the team that they have every single week, 227 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: those guys would have trusted somebody who had their back. 228 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna embarrass anybody here. There's no egos involved because 229 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: that was blatantly obvious. And that's where somebody comes in 230 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: and says, hey, Tom, you missed it. I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 231 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: Now that sky judge is going to be able to say, guys, 232 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: let's huddle up here. We made a mistake here. And 233 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: so I'm good with that. The fourth and fifteen from 234 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: the twenty five, I'm sure why not. I'm not in 235 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: an argument of mood today. I'm good. I am. I 236 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: am good going into Memorial Day weekend. I'm feeling good. Yes, McLevin, 237 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: I can't ruin it for you. Oh no, And two words, okay, 238 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: Paths interference. What happens up fourth and fifteen where in 239 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: a cornerback grabbed the guy like they do seventy five 240 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: percent at the time, and it's gonna be pass interference 241 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: and that's how the play is going to convert. I 242 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: mean that would be I would say almost more likely 243 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: that it's a PI than a catch. Okay, So, well 244 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: is it pass interference? Well, every play is pass interference 245 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: when you watch the NFL, it's just a matter of 246 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: like cornerbacks and wide receivers jostle. It's gonna they're gonna 247 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: be so many controversial pass interference calls on this play. Yeah, 248 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: I'll leave that to the officials, whether calling you pass 249 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: interference or not. Yes, the way the rules are going now, 250 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: if there's pass interference on fourth down, what they'll do 251 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: is they're gonna take the ball, give first down on 252 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: the other twenty five, but you only get three downs 253 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: for four points. And then that's the new rule. Yes, Todd, 254 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: I hate that rule. That's it's beyond gimmicky. It's way 255 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: too easy to convert a fourth and fifteen compared to 256 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: trying to get an onside kick. And who cares if 257 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: the penalty is the risk is the other team gets 258 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: it twenty five away. Usually when that's on late in 259 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, you've lost. If you don't pick up 260 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: the onsite kicks. Who kis if it's twenty five away 261 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: or the other team's one yard away, you didn't you 262 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: get the onsite kicks. Games done when they do it 263 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: in a final minute or two desperately to get the 264 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: ball back. Yeah. I just don't know if we need 265 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: more excitement. I don't know the last time somebody said, 266 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL is just not that exciting. I 267 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: know that we can't use the onsite kick. I know 268 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: that they want to take that out, you know, and 269 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: now you can't. It's hard to convert it in the 270 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: first place because I have no run up. I have 271 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: to wait until the ball is kicked. Hope it ricochets 272 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: off somebody and then I'm able to recover it. They 273 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: just want to take I'm waiting for them to take 274 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: out the punt because the punt is violent. I think 275 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: the punch is more violent than the kickoff because it 276 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: feels like there are a lot of open targets there 277 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: on the punt return, not necessarily the kickoff, you know, 278 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: because if you look at the blocking, you know how 279 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: it kind of unfolds in front of you. I don't 280 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: think you have the same collisions you do with a punt, 281 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: and you get those hits where somebody's not seeing it coming. 282 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: There's more violence on a punt, but they can't take 283 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: that out, but they kick off. Yeah, they would love 284 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: to say goodbye to that and the on side kick mclovid. 285 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: You got a poll question, Well, it depends you want 286 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: to go NFL rules or we have some tiger phill 287 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: questions too. Polly is hot on a couple of things 288 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: NFL rules, about college rules. If you're gonna put in 289 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: rule changes, I'll let Polly pitch them real quick. Okay. 290 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: If you want to increase the excitement and a chance 291 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: for comebacks in the NFL, there's a couple of things 292 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: you could do. You can make it one foot for catches, 293 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: one foot in for catches. That means you're gonna have 294 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: much more offense in the NFL and it'll be just 295 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: like it is in college. Let me save it here 296 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: because seweb is zooming in now, so let me take 297 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: a break to be fair to him with his schedule, 298 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: and then we'll talk a little bit more about this. 299 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Phone calls more than welcome to take them. Today a 300 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: seven seven three DP show, It's eighteen to the hour. 301 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: Chris Webber tells some Jordan stories next year on The 302 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 303 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 304 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 305 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the 306 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or 307 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 308 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: searching f SR. We'll get to your phone calls coming up. 309 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Right Thompson, great ESPN writer. A little 310 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: bit later on Sam Smith, who wrote the Jordan Rules, 311 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: I'll get his thoughts on Michael Jordan, saying Horace Grant 312 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: was the snitch for Sam Smith in all the sort 313 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: of backroom stories that Sam unearthed about Jordan and the 314 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: bulls back then. So he'll join us in the final 315 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: hour of the show Man. It's not very often where 316 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm envious of somebody's man cave. But Chris Webber joining 317 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: us now, I don't know how you describe that home, 318 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: Jim seweb But man, that looks like it's right out 319 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: of a movie set. Yeah, uh yeah, I borrowed it 320 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: from Hoosiers. But no, um, I tell you what. It's pretty, 321 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: but it doesn't get any more use anymore. So so 322 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: it looks good. It's it's like a prop. But nobody's 323 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: in there in the lab working. I don't know if 324 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: anybody's had a good game in here probably about it 325 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: eight years so it has been a while. The best 326 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: player who's played in there beside you, oh, Rip Hamilton. 327 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: Uh Matt barn probably Rip Hamilton, probably Rip. He used 328 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: to He used to make this his place a lot. 329 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: So uh Rip, this is Rips Jim Man. That is 330 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: sharp looking, right out of a movie. All right. The 331 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: documentary on Michael Jordan. What stood out to you when 332 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: you watched, Assuming you watched, Yeah, I watch. Actually I've 333 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: been watched the last three days. I couldn't watch during 334 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: the beginning because after the first episode I didn't see 335 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: it was so much debate. I was just like, I'll 336 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: go crazy as a Jordan fan staying up to the 337 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: moment on this. So I just waited and it was 338 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: everything you know that I thought in more great, you know, 339 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: for some disappointed times, but I was the biggest Michael 340 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Jordan fan that there was, and you know, just to 341 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: just made you feel good about those moments in your life, 342 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: the things that you were doing at those times, the 343 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: best memories that you had and attached those to kind 344 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan's life soundtrack. So it was pretty cool 345 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: to watch anything bother you. I mean, you know, I'm 346 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: a Pistons fan, you know, so, um, not necessarily between 347 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: him and Zeke, you know, because because I know that 348 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: that they have their thing and Zeke is definitely a 349 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: mentor and a friend, and I only had hoped Jordan 350 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: would be that, you know, growing up. But the narrative 351 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: on the Pistons just being bullyball, it was funny to 352 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: me because if you really look at it, New York 353 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: the next team was trying to be the Pistons, right, 354 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: but they didn't have Lamber was shooting threes. I think 355 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: he made three, four or five three pointers in a quarter. 356 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: So it wasn't just like come down, post up. They 357 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: didn't have that team, you know. So I thought the 358 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: Pistons were a lot smarter than they were depicted. But 359 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: at that time the rules were rough and uh. But 360 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: as a as a Pistons fan, I didn't I didn't 361 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: mind him walking off tiptone by the boys and all that. 362 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: I didn't care. I didn't care. But I enjoyed the 363 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: dock and probably my favorite part was him winning the championship. 364 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: Two of my favorite moments KG winning the championship saying 365 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: anything's possible, and Jordan when he won the championship and 366 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: he was holding it and you knew his father wasn't there. 367 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: I remember watching that game with my father. I remember 368 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: how big of a moment it was, and it still 369 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: plays as big that many years later. What was it like, though, 370 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: that first time you step on the floor with a 371 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: guy that you've vitalized and now all of a sudden 372 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: he's right there in front of you. Okay, so like 373 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: say with him, bark You know, Bird, you're the greatest 374 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: players that I looked up to. Whether it was because 375 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: I first got a chance to play against Jordan and 376 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: the Dream Team. And I'm telling you in the huddle, 377 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: my eyes are watering looking at other guys like this 378 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: is our moment, and my eyes are watering. I'm not crying, 379 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: but I mean, I guess I'm holding tears back. But 380 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: this is a moment. You know, I'm playing against my hero. 381 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean it's Larry Bird, Shorten Malone and Barkley over there, man, 382 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm looking at Grant Hill, I'm looking 383 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: at Rodney Rodgers and um, you know Hurly, and we're 384 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: all looking like man, this yeah, this is yeah, We're here, 385 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: this is that moment We'll never forget and so playing 386 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: against Jordan and all those greats, you know, we grew 387 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: up on them. So the only way to honor them 388 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: is to act like or to do what they put 389 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: in you and instilled in you. So even though you're 390 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: the biggest fan, it's no time for hey, Jordan, I 391 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: love you, because that's not what he would want. It's 392 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: no time for that with Barkley. So what you try 393 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: to do is emulate what they would have done on 394 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: the court. And let's just try to fake it like 395 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: it's tough until you get off and call your dad 396 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: and be like, Man, I played against Jordan. Did you 397 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: get embarrassed? Now? We beat the Dream Team the first day, 398 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: and then the next day we didn't score, so we 399 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: got embarrassed. But after we got embarrassed after we reached 400 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: the mountaintop, so we didn't care. Man. But this was 401 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: summer of ninety two, Is that right? It was my 402 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: going into my sophomore year after my freshman year. I believe. Yes. 403 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: So it's a group of college all stars against the 404 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: Dream Team scrimmaging. Yeah, Danny, you had to realize. I mean, 405 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: I know, you know the context, but I wanted to 406 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: play in the Olympics. You know, we thought we were 407 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: pretty good, but the teams before that we had discussed 408 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: it kind of with lack luster and so we you know, 409 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't our chance. And so I'm talking to Coach 410 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: Daily and David Stern and then just saying how important 411 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: this moment is in history and how our favorite players 412 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: are going to be the ambassador for basketball around the world. 413 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: We kind of understood, Yeah, kids like us and they'd 414 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: rather see this than us, so we'll weigh our turn. 415 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: But we knew it was We knew it was a 416 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: big moment, man. But watching Jordan You going in his room, 417 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: seeing the music he played, watching him play tunk, Scottie Pippen, 418 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: taking us to dinner. It was just what I learned 419 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: playing against the Olympic team was that the NBA players 420 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: really are fans of the college players, and they really 421 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: want you to come in and do well, just not 422 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: against them. And so it was cool. It was cool, 423 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, seeing that generosity, but also filling the raft 424 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: for that anger after you after you run out the 425 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: gym up one and coach turns the clock off and 426 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: the lights off. What did you think when Laytner got 427 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: that spot on the dream team. I thought that Shack 428 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: was a better player, would be a better player, but 429 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: Christian Layton was by far better college player. Christian Layner 430 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: is Kareem Christian Laytner in my age group, my demographic 431 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: for players that I've seen is the best college player 432 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: to step on the floor, period, And so I wanted 433 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: some of him in those practices and scrimmages. But it 434 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: was Barkley Malone and other guys. But I didn't. I 435 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: didn't feel any type of way. I thought it was 436 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: a good political move for the NBA. A college player 437 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: four years was going to be a high draft pick. 438 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: And again, I mean Christian Laytener got buckets and went 439 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: to championship, So we had to put that in perspective. 440 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: Christian Layner is one of the best college players that 441 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: we've ever seen in this game. Yeah, I agree with 442 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: you on it. I just didn't know how competitive that 443 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: final spot was for college players. And as you said, 444 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: Shack should have been up for it. You could have 445 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: been up for it. But Laterner is one of the 446 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: more decorated college players of all time. And you know, 447 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: we always look at, hey, how did he do as 448 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: a pro. It's like the guy who wins the Heisman, Chris, 449 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: And then they go, yeah, but he wasn't a good pro. 450 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: Therefore it diminishes what he did in college. And I 451 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: always say later was a better than average. He was 452 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: a borderline good player NBA player, good player in the NBA. 453 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: He was great in college. He manned up every time 454 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: you needed a big shot, big game. He never backed 455 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: down from anybody, from you guys to Larry Johnson, U 456 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: and LV whatever the challenge was later stepped up, and 457 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: he didn't back down the NBA because people were trying 458 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: to give him that work that they owed him from 459 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: college the whole time in the league. So no, he 460 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: did a great job. I just think we have to 461 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: really remember the context of that time. And I know 462 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: you guys know, remember Shack should have started the All 463 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: Star Game. He should have started the All Star Game 464 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: his rookie year. And remember if Patrick Ewing and those 465 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: guys said no rookies start the game. I mean, back 466 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: then it was such a pecking order that Shaq freed 467 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: us from. You know, when Shack after he did that, 468 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: where do you see other guys come in? Then you 469 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: see y'all getting the most votes. Even though yes, it's international, 470 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: but it wasn't. It wasn't anybody saying, oh, you can't 471 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: do that because it was the business of basketball, and 472 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: we're like, come on, bring the best, and no matter 473 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: what age they are, you don't have to be in 474 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: the league this long to be an All Star, all 475 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: you gotta do is go to work. Right now, he's 476 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: Chris Webber, five time All Star, NBA on t NT analyst, 477 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: former NBA All Star. You've told us some Jordan's stories 478 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: when you guys faced them in the playoffs. Didn't he 479 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: did he drive up in? Did he have a Ferrari 480 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: or Lamborghini? And was he waiting for you guys on 481 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: the team bus. So Dan, I'm very happy that they 482 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: showed Jordan with the cigars as much as he smoked, 483 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: because I've told this story. I think I told you guys, 484 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: and no one wants to believe it because a cohiba. 485 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: I mean, try playing golf. The second nine is terrible. 486 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: If I spoke no, it'll make you dizzy and you 487 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: had lightheaded Come on, I mean, I knew baseball players 488 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: that dipped. I knew like that is real, and so yeah, 489 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: we're coming in. I don't I don't want to mess 490 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: it up with missing out on what game it was. 491 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: But we're playing against the Bulls, the best team ever. 492 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: Seventy two. Juwan from Chicago worked out with Jordan a lot. 493 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Jordan, and I knew like 494 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: with him, you don't put on a blindfolding a cigarette, 495 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: like just open your eyes and take it and enjoy 496 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: the moment, just just going. So I really feel I'm 497 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: a really good teammate because I was always about my teammates. 498 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: That was my goal to get you the ball, to 499 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: make sure because they do so much for you. And 500 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: this is the one day I wasn't a good friend 501 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: or a teammate. We get we pull into the Balls 502 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: arena right up under there where you're parking. You can 503 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: see little restaurants and everything. And getting off of my 504 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: suit in my bag, you know, and in game mode, 505 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: and Jouan is in front of me walking off the bus. 506 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: I'm talking junk to him, whispering in his ear, and 507 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: we get off the bus and directly across like a cartoon, 508 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: like a like a movie like Shaft. Yeah, he was 509 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: like Shaft. Like. Jordan was sitting back on the Ferrari 510 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: smoking a cigar before the game, and in this series, 511 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: I think they we played them three games and they 512 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: only beat us by seven point total. So we thought, 513 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, we thought we would have stuff and um, 514 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: we get off and uh, he goes, hey Webb, who's 515 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: checking me? And I looked at Jiuan and we both 516 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: looked back at Calvert Cheney and did like this. I 517 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: was so whack of us Man. I was so wrong 518 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: with us Man. And I think he gave us fifty 519 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: three fifty five or something or something like that. It 520 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: was so crazy. I remember telling Juan when Jordan was 521 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: on the free throw line, I was like, he saw 522 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: his soul, he saw his soul to the devil to 523 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: be good in basketball. He looked at me like maybe 524 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: I did, Maybe I didn't. You weren't on the team 525 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: with le Bradford Smith. Were you when when Mike singled 526 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: him out? Were you still at Michigan? Yeah, I was 527 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: still at Michigan. I wasn't. I wasn't there for that 528 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: beat down. Poor le Bradford Smith. He didn't do anything. 529 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: He said nice game, and then Mike used that as 530 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: a slight And did he really even say nice game? 531 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: Who knows somewhere Le Bradford Smith has a son going dad. 532 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: Why did you say that to Mike, He's like frin listen, 533 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: I really didn't. Yeah, yeah, one of the best competitors ever. 534 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what it was. It was it 535 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: was an honor to compete against him and Kobe in 536 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: the same way because everything was on the table. You 537 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: knew that you knew their incentive, their arterial motives, their motivation. 538 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: You just honestly knew what it was, and it was 539 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: rather refreshing to know this is what you're going up against. 540 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: You would start thinking about him three four games before 541 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: you started to play him, and all you wanted to 542 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: do is beat him and win every possession. So if 543 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,239 Speaker 1: you did get to steal, you better talk junk and 544 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: enjoy that moment because whether you do or don't, he's 545 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: gonna come back and take it out on you anyway. 546 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: So it was it was an honor to play against 547 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: in my opinion, you know, the greatest of all time. 548 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: And also you know, people want to make this comparison 549 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: with Lebron and Michael, and I said, if you want 550 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: to make a comparison, make the comparison with Kobe because 551 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: they are similar Lebron is not close to Michael as 552 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: far as his approach to the game is personality. Kobe 553 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: as an alpha dog. I mean, he but he learned 554 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: from Mike because he said, Hey, I'm I'm who I am. 555 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: Because of Michael, he wanted to be Michael. Lebron can't 556 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: be Michael. He's more magic than Michael. But we keep 557 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: trying to Hey, we got to have this conversation, this debate, 558 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: this argument, and it's it's hard to debate that I 559 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: could debate Kobe and Mike more than I can Lebron. Yeah, 560 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: you definitely can't. I can't too, because we all know 561 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: that Kobe wanted to be the vulnerability, you know, talking 562 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: like Mike, the interviews, everything's a challenge. I used to 563 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: tease him about and he wanted that. And I really 564 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: think we need to appreciate the evolution of players because 565 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Magic, there being no Lebron. In 566 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: my opinion, Magic six nine dribbling the ball, Lebron the 567 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: same way Lebron makes the correct basketball play, and yet 568 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: he's been criticized every single time. You know, there were 569 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: some things in the Doctor exposed Mike's attitude and whether 570 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: you like it or not, that's your opinion. And we 571 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: see Lebron's to it every day, whether he trusts Kyrie 572 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: for a last shot or someone would say need him 573 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: for a last shot, but Jordan said he needed Pipping. 574 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: So you know, to me, Lebron is a mixture of 575 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Michael and Magic because he has the athletic ability of 576 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: Michael and the willingness to pass and get others involved 577 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: like Magic. And it was something that we really hadn't seen. 578 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: And I think I heard Pipping or someone say, when 579 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: Lebron has the ball, everyone on the floor is open 580 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: because you have to watch start guarding him. But you 581 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: also have to watch your man and not let Lebron 582 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: be a decoy by having all the eyes on him. 583 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: So I agree with you, it's an unfair comparison. But 584 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. All three of those guys are 585 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: pretty good. They're pretty good. Okay, give me a Kobe story. 586 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, wow, Covid story, you don't know. I 587 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: don't know how good of a story this is. But 588 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: not to waste time thinking about it. I remember, UM 589 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know what year was. It was an Afro Kobe 590 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: was Afro Kobe and he was Paul. He checked the 591 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: Afro Kobe year. Okay, so that's a good status. You know, 592 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: you know the game, but he had the year before, 593 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: he had been criticized or someone said something about him 594 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: being weak in the fourth quarter. It was we went 595 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: to dinner or something and he brought this up, and 596 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at him. I'm like, we're really gonna talk 597 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: about this now. And so whatever it was in passing, 598 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: and so we played them, um sacramental. We always used 599 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: to play them in the preseason in Vegas or something, 600 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: and so I hadn't seen Kovie in a while, and 601 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: he texts me or something, and uh, we run it out. 602 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: We run and play. First couple of plays the game, 603 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: he comes by, bang and he hits me real hard. 604 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, like, what's wrong with you? Man? 605 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: Comes back, bang, he hits me real hard. Just so 606 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: a halftime He's like, you feel that I'm getting stronger, right, 607 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting stronger right. I mean, it was from our conversation. 608 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: I think the greatest thing about those is like, how 609 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: I've heard that a great picture. You have to not 610 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: have a great memory, you know, you can't remember the 611 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 1: guy to hit a home run on your own focus 612 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: on the next one. The great things about those guys, 613 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: they never let anything go, even if it is, like 614 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: I used to have a superstition that you can't have 615 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: a superstition. That was my only superstition. If you play 616 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: a great game in these shoes, so what, don't play 617 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: in them again because nothing can get in your mind, like, 618 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: so what? The shoes didn't do it? And for Kobe 619 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: and Jordan, those guys, I think that their memory and motivation, 620 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: their memory came from their motivation, even if it was 621 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: off a successful game, challenging themselves to outdo that game 622 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: last time. And so it's definitely a winner's mentality with 623 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: those kids playing were playing basketball here soon. I was 624 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: gonna ask you yes so much, I don't. I don't know, 625 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: what do you think. I think they're gonna try to 626 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: pull this together in Orlando and maybe use Vegas for 627 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: the West Coast teams. But it feels like you only 628 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: get one shot at this, Chris. That's the thing that 629 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: they and you got to do it right because if 630 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: somebody tests positive or something goes wrong here, then the 631 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: season's done. So I like that the commissioners stayed quiet. 632 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: Haven't heard anything from him in three weeks, and that's 633 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: a good thing. I get the feeling they're gonna they're 634 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: gonna give this a go here in the next couple 635 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: of weeks, try to get him to get everybody together. Well. 636 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: I love the fact that our league and our players 637 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: union stay in constant contact. I think we have great 638 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: leadership from Chris Paul and from Silver on both sides. 639 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: I do, Dan, I do worry about it. I would 640 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: like to see, regardless of this year, I would like 641 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: to see the season and I've stayed this many times 642 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: start in December, yeah, round Christmas, so we don't have 643 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: to compete, so that we can with football, so we 644 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: can take about ten to fifteen to twenty games off 645 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: so that old guys like myself can quit complaining saying, oh, 646 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: you know, Jordan played eighty two games. Rest doesn't matter. 647 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know, this moment in time could be 648 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: the line in the sand. And with Broun, he's the ultimate. 649 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: He's not even the basketball player. He's an ambassador. So 650 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, being that he played eighty two games, him 651 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: being the guy that comes in and now play seventy 652 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: now plays and ushers in this new era. I think 653 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: would be cool. I'm more worried about or more looking 654 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: forward to the product next year. I would be excited 655 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: if basketball has played this year, but guys have not 656 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: been playing, so we're gonna see a little rustiness with that. 657 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: What do you do with teams that could make an 658 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: in if a guy like myself there's been in fifteen 659 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: years and each year is just one time to win 660 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: the championship. Even if I'm in the eleventh place, you 661 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: gotta let me try to play to get in the playoffs, 662 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: or at least that's my argument. And so it's just, man, 663 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm just not envious of the people in the position 664 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: to make decisions now, because, like you said, one one 665 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: thing goes wrong and it won't be good. But I 666 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: do trust the league, and I do trust players to 667 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: make sure they put their best efforts forward and whatever 668 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: the decisions may Chris, it's always great to talk to you. 669 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: We appreciate at your time. Hope you're feeling well, and uh, 670 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: hopefully we get some basketball. Y'all aren't quarantine like all 671 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: all in the same house, Like, oh god, we're staying together, 672 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: says like Mark, like three months that's the reality show. 673 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: You know what? I mean we get to see you 674 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: on the studio. Now you're not no, no, no, no, 675 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: there would be murder and uh yeah, yeah, we couldn't 676 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I wouldn't be good for it. Murder now, 677 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't or be or be murdered. Probably that's just 678 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: duck takes to it. Thank you, Chris, Thank you guys. 679 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: That's Chris Webber. We'll take a break. The phone calls. 680 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: Play of the day coming up. Neck. Thanks for listening 681 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 682 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 683 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 684 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 685 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: us live every day at YouTube dot com. Slash The 686 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. A couple of phone calls here settle 687 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: on a pole question Chris Webber. I think he's a 688 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: great guest. He never you know, he's told the Jordan's 689 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: story where he gets you know, they get off the 690 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: bus and Jordan's waiting there with his U sitting next 691 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: to his Lamborghini, smoke in a Cuban cigar, and he 692 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 1: told the story and added something else to the story 693 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: that he didn't tell us. Five years ago. He's great. 694 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: Really is a lot of fun, Ted and Tampa leads 695 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: us off. This morning, Hi, Ted, what do you have 696 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: for me today? Yeah? Hey, Dan, you probably already know it. 697 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: But on Memorial Day, all the members of our Special 698 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: Operations community that don't have a mission, on Monday night, 699 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: we'll be doing the Lieutenant Mike Murphy Workout in honor 700 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: of Mike Murphy, who has killed awarded the Medal of 701 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: Honor Operation Red Wings. The movie Lone Survivor was was 702 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: made about that, and from what I'm was told Paul, 703 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: he's going to be doing that with us. It's a 704 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: one mile run, one hundred pull ups, two hundred push ups, 705 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: three hundred squats, and another one mile run. Ted, I 706 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: don't think you're talking about You're not talking about my Polly. 707 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: I've already picked up his shirt and I've already got 708 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: his runners. Bid. Okay, well i'll mail that to you. 709 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: Thank you guys on Monday. Thank you. Ted a poll Um. 710 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: He can't be talking about you. I don't think so. 711 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: Not that I mean I'll do if you pull up 712 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: a push ups, but I don't. I don't see you 713 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: haven't run a mile this whole calendar year, a total 714 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: of a mile total. I'm completely honest. All right, some 715 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: NFL calls here on the proposed rule changes. Doug in 716 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: North Carolina, Hi, Doug, would he have for me today? Well? 717 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: Two quick questions first, and I was not intended to 718 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: ask about this, but based on the way the Chris 719 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: Webber interview ended, if the five of you guys really 720 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 1: did home quarantine together, and if he did start murdering 721 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: each other, who would be the last ten at standing 722 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: and breathing. But the real reason I'm calling is I 723 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: want I want to make sure I understood you correctly. 724 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: I have a fifteen year old son who's a huge 725 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: Saint fan and is still bitter about that non call 726 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: pass in her parents. Yeah, and then the NFL tried 727 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: to correct it last year, and now they're going to 728 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: get rid of their correction, and you said you're okay 729 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: with that. I just want to understand you're thinking, I 730 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: want the sky judge. Now, the sky judge is what 731 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: I want. Somebody who's part of the team. The problem 732 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: I had with this is you had all stars. You 733 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: didn't have the regular team. You know, each week, these 734 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: guys have a team that they you know, the team 735 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: of referees and then they're they're together each week, and 736 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: I just think ego got in the way of this 737 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: official not asking for help or somebody. You can see 738 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 1: somebody come down the sidelines, you know, as if to say, hey, 739 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, we got to talk about this, and you 740 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: can see where he's waved off. I think having somebody 741 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: who will make a call or say, guys, huddle up, 742 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: we miss something here. And I think ego got in 743 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 1: the way where somebody didn't want to embarrass somebody and 744 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: that you know, then we saw what happened after that. 745 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: But if they do it right, I just want it correct. 746 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: That's all. You're there, you have an opportunity to correct 747 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: something if we can see it, you can see it, 748 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: and you should be able to make the right call. 749 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: And if you have the sky judge there who can help, 750 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: and he's not down on the field, but he's a 751 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: big brother there. He's the eye in the sky to say, 752 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: huddle up, guys, let's talk about this. I think we 753 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: missed something here and give somebody an opportunity to look 754 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: at it and say yeah, that's interference or no, that's not. 755 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: But they missed helmet to helmet and you missed the 756 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, there's no excuse for that. Now, 757 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: that didn't mean you had to change the rule. Hopefully 758 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: it'll clean it up all right. One hour in the books, 759 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: two more to go, setan Paulie Fritzie Mclovinyar's truly here, 760 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show