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Speaker 1: The grades are in and they're pretty good. Welcome bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, Zach Kershman joins me and joins me

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Speaker 1: for the annual exercise looking at how the experts greater

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five draft class. Time to open up

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Speaker 1: those report cards. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Poda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again.

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Speaker 3: Some more hurry magic whow Here's Craig Griolo.

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Speaker 1: So off the top here, Zach? Did you get good

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Speaker 1: grades in school?

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Speaker 3: I got good enough grades again to Penn State.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. So elementary high school? You just did enough. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that says about you versus your

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Speaker 1: alma mater.

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Speaker 3: Barrack Hebrew Academy was a college prep institution and I

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Speaker 3: did well there, Okay. Now, I wasn't like some of

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Speaker 3: my classmates who went to Ivy League schools and good

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Speaker 3: for them. But if you ask the average person, they

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Speaker 3: might get confused between Penn and Penn State.

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Speaker 1: So that is true. It happens a lot.

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Speaker 3: So at that case, I went to the Ivy League.

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Speaker 1: As I look over to our producer over here, Cody

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Speaker 1: Fincher on the whole Arizona Arizona State, Well, they get

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Speaker 1: confused all the time, especially if you're preparing for the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, because then Tetoa McMillan is the star wide

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Speaker 1: receiver for Sam Levitt. Yeah, that story for another time.

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Speaker 1: Why am I asking about Zach's grets, Well, because it's

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Speaker 1: a fun.

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Speaker 3: Topic because I would answer it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you answer everything. What we do on Monday,

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Speaker 1: it's the UH annual exercise Draft Day grades. How did

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Speaker 1: the team grade out according to the quote unquote so

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Speaker 1: called experts. Now, this is my disclaimer on draft grades.

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Speaker 1: No one knows. It's all an assumption based on how

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Speaker 1: many viewed these players during the pre draft process. So

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Speaker 1: just like mock drafts, there are going to be varied opinions.

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Speaker 1: And we have no idea how the Arizona Cardinals or

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Speaker 1: any team had their board set up. And we heard

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, Why did the Cardinals select six of the

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Speaker 1: seven players on the defensive side of the ball. According

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Speaker 1: to GM Monty Austin Forth, that's just kind of how

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Speaker 1: the board fell, and you want to make sure you

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Speaker 1: stay true to your board. As Mani said, you can

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Speaker 1: get into a lot of trouble if you vary away

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Speaker 1: from your board and start picking because oh, we have

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Speaker 1: a whole here or a need here. Don't pass up

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Speaker 1: on good players to fill a need because your needs

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Speaker 1: change from April to September. So again, still though, I

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Speaker 1: think a fun exercise, if you will, to look to

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Speaker 1: see how the Cardinals graded out what people are saying.

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Speaker 1: It's not so much the grades, but what are people

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Speaker 3: Well, look, when we talk about the draft grades, the

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Speaker 3: and this is all due respect to the guys on

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Speaker 3: Day three especially, but a lot of these experts are

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals got a lot of good grades. I'm not

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Speaker 3: trying to spoil the exercise that you're doing, but with

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Speaker 3: and the Cardinals nab him there at forty seven, there's

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Speaker 3: This is simply based off of a lot of these

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Speaker 1: To begin with, yeah, well Johnson was expected to be

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Speaker 1: to be a day one announcement, you wait until day two.

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Speaker 1: But as we heard Jonathan Gannon talk about, okay, you're

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Speaker 1: here regardless of how you got here, undrafted, drafted, free agent,

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Speaker 1: and it's now your goal to do enough to say

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows that they're rookies. But Garrett Williams is not

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Speaker 3: He's allowed to be frustrated, he's allowed to be disappointed

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Speaker 3: as to how everything has unfolded on Thursday night and

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Speaker 3: as motivated as ever. He said that this is a

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Speaker 3: to see some of these practice battles during training camp. Credit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a little bit of a weight

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Speaker 1: because you're not going to see those full speed reps

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but think about how fast the draft came up

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Speaker 3: on us. Training camp is going to be around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's not go too fast here. We've still had

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Speaker 1: like summer vacation plans, at least some of us, do, Zach.

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Speaker 1: I know you're all gas, no breaks.

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Speaker 3: All gas, no breaks, even when I am on vacation.

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Speaker 3: That's true, but not that's the standard here.

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Speaker 1: Can't pry that computer away from your hands. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into some of these and I'll start with

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Speaker 1: the quote unquote big name melkiper Junior. Right, I think

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Speaker 1: that's where everyone begins. Now, he had a draft, Yes

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Speaker 1: He did a great ride up off the top. He

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Speaker 1: because he listed top needs entering the draft wide receiver, guard,

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Speaker 3: If mel Kiper would have looked at the and this

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Speaker 3: seven player and that should be the number one need

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Speaker 3: for the Arizona Cardinals, not just for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: I left guard there's Evan Brown, and right guard there's

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Speaker 3: And sure, I'm sure you could have the conversation of

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Speaker 3: what could Kelvin be, What could Calvin Banks rather do

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Speaker 3: What could Tyler Booker have done for the Cardinals if

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Speaker 3: he was on the board. But that didn't matter. And

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Speaker 3: you start looking at your board, Walter Nolan's above them,

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Speaker 3: and that's why the Cardinals took it with the sixteenth pick.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it wasn't Gray is able to pick

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Speaker 3: Two picks after the pick after with Shamar was Shamar

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Speaker 3: Stewart to the Bengals in which I retweeted Cincinnati. A

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Speaker 1: The bill the B Minus by mulkiper Junior, and he

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Speaker 3: And if you look at the guys that would potentially

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Speaker 3: add Keaton Crawford, a seventh round pick who will mostly

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Speaker 3: he develops into a safety. The Cardinals secondary is a

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Speaker 1: Mel Kiper Jr. Noted that he was surprised the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: instead of them. I don't think that Mani's going to

434
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Speaker 3: be complaining about it. Come training camp though.

435
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Speaker 1: Some other grades and not going to go through each

436
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: and every one of the different grades that are out there,

437
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: but CBS Sports B minus part of their explanation. Cardinals

438
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: have gone to extreme links to improve the defense this offseason,

439
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: and that theme continued in the draft NBC Sports. The

440
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 1: Cardinals got a truckload of high pedigree players, often at

441
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: values compared to most big boards. It wasn't the sexiest draft,

442
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: but it works. They got a B plus from the

443
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 1: NBC Sports Sports Illustrated B grade. Arizona finally added some

444
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: defensive talent, which should allow coach Jonathan Gannon to fully

445
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: operate his scheme. Fox Sports a B minus if healthy

446
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: cornerback Well Johnson offers top ten talent at a discount price,

447
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: and then they concluded their ride up. I questioned if

448
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: enough was done to upgrade the offensive line, tempering my

449
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: enthusiasm for this group overall, and that seems to be

450
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: a lot of the sentiments, even for some Cardinal fans.

451
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: Because you waited until the sixth round to grab an

452
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: offensive lineman or an offensive player period at the same time,

453
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't that tell you something about how this front office,

454
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: this coaches to have feels about the offense. And I

455
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: say that because that's exactly what Yahoo's Sports wrote about.

456
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: They gave the Cardinals NA and their part of their

457
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: write up included this sentence. They must feel pretty good

458
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: about where they are on offense because they didn't get

459
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: a pick there until the sixth round with guard Hayden Connor.

460
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 3: Which is the same boat I'm in. I'm about to

461
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 3: ask a pretty stupid question. Potentially there are no stupid questions. Well,

462
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: I know there very well could be. I could rattle

463
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: off a few, but I'm not going to. Why is

464
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 3: in the eyes of so many the offensive line such

465
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: a need to be improved right now? It's not like

466
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: they were bad last season. Yes, you always want to

467
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 3: improve at every position. You want to add competition at

468
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 3: every position. But Isaiah Adams did a really solid job

469
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: in the times that he was out there. Evan Brown, yeah,

470
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: he had his moments, but I thought also was really solid.

471
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 3: Yell Defroholt is as rock solid as they come, as

472
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 3: is Paris Johnson and Jonah Williams had injury, and you

473
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 3: brought in Kelvin Beacham and who you've had into the system.

474
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: But he assumed more of that starter role and also

475
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: did a really solid job. The Cardinals finished with seventy

476
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: three rushes of over ten plus yards, that being an explosive.

477
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: They were fourth in the league in that they had

478
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 3: a top five rushing scheme. I understand that. And they

479
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: also did not commit penalties. The Cardinals were the second

480
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: fewest a penalized team in the NFL. I'm pretty sure,

481
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: only one behind the Los Angeles Rams, and.

482
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: They allow the fifth few of sex thirty now, but yes.

483
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: Of course that's why, Like I'm looking at this and

484
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: I understand why players, why people want the Cardinals to

485
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: invest in the offensive line. It starts in the trenches.

486
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 3: And when you look at what the Chiefs did and

487
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: what the Eagles did, and when a lot of these

488
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 3: teams that are in the NFC Championship, in the AFC Championship,

489
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 3: you look at their blueprint, it starts in the trenches.

490
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: The Cardinals have already invested in that aspect of the

491
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: game on the defensive side of the ball. Offensively, you

492
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 3: found a gem and yelled the ro hold. You drafted

493
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: a first round talent in in a Paris jauntson junior.

494
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: You invested a third round pick in Is Isaiah Adams,

495
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: and you gave good money in free agency to Jonah Williams.

496
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 3: I understand the desire to continue to improve that that

497
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: aspect of the game. But the fact that people and

498
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 3: once again this is just for content reasons now that

499
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: people are docking the Cardinals their great because of the

500
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: lack investment into that position, I just I don't buy it.

501
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't get it.

502
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: If you watch the Cardinals and bird Gang, we know

503
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: you watch each and every Sunday. Yeah, there were some

504
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: I thought a lot of solid play from the offensive line,

505
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: and many of those players are back. Now there is

506
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: a question market right guard. Yet you have Isaiah Adams

507
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: who got a handful of starts last year. Maybe the

508
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals defensively or the offensive staff. I should say, watch

509
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: the film. Yeah, they like where Isaiah Adams is trending.

510
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: You also have Royce Newman and they signed in free agency,

511
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: a veteran who can play in the interior. Then you've

512
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: got Christian Jones, who you invested a fifth round pick

513
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: in a year ago. John Gaines is still on this roster.

514
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: So to your point, Zach, when you're looking at the third, fourth,

515
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: fifth round, and we heard again going back to the

516
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: so called experts on just how much of a drop

517
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: off there was in talent from the offensive line once

518
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: you got through those first two or three guys. Okay, well,

519
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, again prioritizing defense ahead of that, come to

520
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: the offensive line group. Is so and so player better

521
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: than Christian Jones? Is so and so player better than

522
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: what we have in Isaiah Adams? And just to go

523
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: out on a limb, I'm gonna say Cardinals feel more

524
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: comfortable with Jones, Adams and their group than they saw

525
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: who was on the board when their time came up,

526
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: whether that was the third round, fourth round, fifth round,

527
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: or whatever.

528
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: Look the way I look at it, you want to

529
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: improve every room, obviously, but I look at it as

530
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: like kind of like a shaky question mark at right guard,

531
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 3: because I'm confident in what Isaiah Adams could bring to

532
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: the table. I have a question mark at what you're

533
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: gonna do at Mike linebacker. Who's going to be replacing

534
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: Kaiser White? Is that going to be your fourth round

535
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: or Cody Simon. Are you gonna move Mac Wilson to

536
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 3: keep him less off the edge and keep him more

537
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: on that inside role? Is it? Keen Davis gaither. Is

538
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 3: that why you brought him in was to compete for

539
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: them for that Mike linebacker green the opposition. If that

540
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: is the case, that's where I have a solid question

541
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: mark as to what's going to be the case. I

542
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: believe they have a player in the room that is

543
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: able to do it. Cody Simon ran the show. As

544
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: Dave Sears said at Ohio State, he's a candidate at

545
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: the role a Keem Davis gate Thor. There's a reason

546
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: why you went after him in the early stages a

547
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: free agency. But the way I look at is right

548
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: guard and the interior offensive line is it's a faded

549
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: question mark because I think you could run it back

550
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. As what the Cardinal's doing

551
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: at offense, they're running it back, They're keeping a lot

552
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: of their same pieces, and if they have similar production,

553
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: at least at the bare minimum, you would love to

554
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: have Kyler Murray connecting with his wide receivers a little

555
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: bit more. But if Kyler Murray remains upright like he

556
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: did for majority of last season, and the Cardinals still

557
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 3: have a very solid run game and you didn't, you're

558
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: able to still invest in different positions. To me, that

559
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: is a success. That is a win.

560
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: Now. On Monday, the Cardinals did add to the offensive

561
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: line room, signing three offensive rookie free agents. Of the

562
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: sixth that they signed, Florida State offensive lineman Jeremiah Byers

563
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: six twenty pounds twenty two starts at right tackle over

564
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: the past two seasons at FSU. Ohio State offensive lineman

565
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: Josh Fryar six' five three twenty five seasons At Ohio state. Annul,

566
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: yes he gets reunited with his offensive line, Coach Justin.

567
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Frye it was guy in this. Organization what's your issue

568
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: With Ohio?

569
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: States this has Become Ohio State west And i'm Not,

570
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: southwest And i'm not thrilled about. IT i love the

571
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: FACT i love the guys that we're bringing, in but

572
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: the fact that they know played for The scarlet And

573
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: gray or whatever they, Are i'm not about.

574
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: It Does Ohio state produce excellent football?

575
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: Talent football Talent and there's a reason why they went

576
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: back to back With Cody simon And Denzel burke after

577
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: Drafting Marvin harrison junior and trading For Baron browning and Oh.

578
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: Man there's a lot of buck guys in this. Building

579
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: as long as it turns into.

580
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: Wins Fourteen Ohio state players heard their name calls over

581
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: the three days most of any other. College that.

582
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 3: Is that is a. Fact BUT i, also you, know

583
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: credit my alma. Mater how about a top three, pick

584
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: you know in One Abdul carter credit to. Him Tyler

585
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: warren goes to The. COLTS i think we've done a

586
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: fine job At Penn.

587
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 1: State the other offensive, Lineman i'm just going to keep

588
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: completely bypass the conversation about the Nine. Lions the other

589
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: offensive lineman out Of, Connecticut Valentin send six seven three

590
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: ten native Of, austria three year starter at left tackle At.

591
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: Connecticut so you're looking at certainly least With buyers And send.

592
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: Tackles And friar is someone that can also play tackle as.

593
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: Well he had sixteen starts at right. Tackle so all

594
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: three offensive, linemen AS i look at the writeups on

595
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: all of, them all would tackle. Experience so again going

596
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: back to our perceived. Need as far as the upgrade

597
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: on the interior at, Guard Isaiah, Adams Royce, Newman John,

598
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: gains there are others as. Well it is going to

599
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: be a. Competition it's it's not going to grab the

600
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: headlines come training, camp but it is something that a

601
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: lot of people are going to keep an eye.

602
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: On, look we'll discuss it a lot On Cardinals cover

603
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: two once we get back To State Farm stadium for

604
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: those training camp. PRACTICES i also think that just like

605
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: we talked About Keaton crawford in the seventh, Round Hayden

606
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: connor in the sixth round is also a really solid offensive.

607
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: Lineman you think About texas's rushing, attack and there's a

608
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 3: reason why a lot of their running, backs you, KNOW

609
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: i would know one of their running backs went to

610
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: The Dallas cowboys in this pass, Draft Jonathan brooks went

611
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: to The Carolina, panthers If i'm not. Mistaken the previous,

612
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: year The Texas longhorns have had a really solid rushing,

613
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: attack but in pass protection. Too Hayden CONNOR pff had

614
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: him as the only offensive guard with over five hundred

615
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: and fifty snaps to not allow a single. Sack if

616
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: you find That steele in the sixth. ROUND i know

617
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: we can talk about the Steal Will johnson in the second,

618
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: round but for all to talk About, shud The cardinals

619
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: invest in a offensive guard or an offensive lineman in

620
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: the first, round if you're able to get a steal

621
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: in the sixth, round and by, STEEL i mean somebody

622
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: that in this vod crowded offensive line room could still

623
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: crack the fifty three man. Roster that is a steal

624
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: in that.

625
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: Case glad you brought Up Pro Football. Focus that's the

626
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: last GRADE i want to touch. On and it just

627
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: so happens that THE pff gave The cardinals AN a

628
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: plus and there were three teams to RECEIVE na plus,

629
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: Grade cowboys And, panthers and all three, franchises according TO,

630
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: pff landed multiple impact. Players and then they detail all

631
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: seven of The cardinals' selections and it is fascinating TO.

632
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: Cnn we, again players certainly have a love hate relationship WITH.

633
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: Pff i'm sure there are others out, there but they

634
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: look at it differently based off their grading, system based

635
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: off where this player particular was. Selected And Walter nolan

636
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: and we talked about this when he was drafted On,

637
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: thursday second highest run defense grade IN fbs this past,

638
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: season only Behind Mason. Graham so, again a solid pick

639
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: for The cardinals in the first. Round we keep talking

640
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: About Well johnson and how good he was when. Healthy

641
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: he was a top coverage corner three seasons At michigan

642
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: ninety fourth. Percentile, again these ARE pff, Numbers so, again

643
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: and you're getting that at pick forty, seven where everyone,

644
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: thought certainly first, round maybe top half of the first.

645
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: Round DARE i say top, ten and then all of a,

646
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: sudden the injury concerns or what was reported out there

647
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: scared teams and, again do you do your due. Diligence

648
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: and The cardinals did Bring will in for a thirty,

649
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: visit and certainly they have no. Concerns So i'm anxious

650
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: to See Will johnson on the football.

651
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: FIELD i am. Too and if you did any of

652
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: the mock, drafts you, know for your own enjoyment OFF,

653
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: pff there's a chance that in a lot of those mock,

654
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: Drafts Walter nolan Or Will johnson wasn't even on the

655
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: board when you when you had that opportunity to select,

656
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: him if you chose The cardinals a picked. Sixteen so

657
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: the fact that The cardinals were able to come away

658
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: with Two All americans in the first and in the

659
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: second round and not have to move at all in

660
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: the draft board at all to get either of, them

661
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: they were talks about potentially The cardinals trading back into

662
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: the first round to select one of these. Talents But

663
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: Will johnson slides to forty, seven AND i hope he

664
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: plays with that chip on his shoulder because as a,

665
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: talent just At, michigan he was a, stud he was a,

666
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: baller and the competitions that he had With Marvin Harrison

667
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: junior were always electric MUSTY. Tv the fact that that

668
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: now gets to take place At cardinals practices here at

669
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: The Dignity Health Training center is going to be a fun.

670
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: One some other notes on WHAT pff had to say

671
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: about The cardinals draft. Class when it came To Jordan,

672
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: birch the third round, selection they, write he brings scheme

673
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: versatility with great size and link to play multiple positions

674
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: on the defensive. Line curious on how much we see

675
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: him in the defensive line room or is at the

676
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: outside linebackers room listed as an. Edge my guess is

677
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: we'll see him With Matt feeney as an outside.

678
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: LINEBACKER i would assume. SO i would assume. So and

679
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: we already know about the relationship he has with his

680
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: former high school Teammates Xavier. Thomas now the tour going

681
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: to be competing AND i know that they Moved Xavier

682
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: thomas If i'm not, mistaken based off of the call

683
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: That Jordan birch had at the defensive end when they

684
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: were in high, school and they Kept Jordan birch on the,

685
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: edge which allowed for a lot more one on one

686
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: opportunities for The Oregon. Duck but he's going to go

687
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: into that edge room If i'm not. Mistaken, Well i'm

688
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: sure at some point in the next coming weeks here

689
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: from defensive Coordinator Nick rowis and offensive Coordinator drew pettsing

690
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: about where they're going to be placing some of these.

691
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: Pieces we haven't spoken to them since the season. Ended

692
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: he will be one of those players because we had

693
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: this conversation With Darius, robinson very similar build where you're

694
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: going to put. Him d rob was another guy that

695
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: came was listed as an edge and they kept him

696
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: in that defensive line room so he could keep his

697
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: hand in the. Dirt Jordan birch had moments with his

698
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: hand in the. Dirt But i'm pretty sure that five

699
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 3: six nine, technique having them on the outside going against

700
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: the offensive, TACKLES i think that's where he'll end.

701
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: Up the Two Ohio state Teammates Cody. Simon according TO,

702
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: pff The cardinals ARE thinntt, linebackers So simon could see

703
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: playing time sooner rather Than. Finn meaning as far as,

704
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: no they've got bodies in the, room but as far as,

705
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: okay you lose a KUIs here white and all of

706
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: a Sudden Mac wilson, senior they like to move him

707
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: around a. Lot who becomes that inside. Linebacker especially, if

708
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: again this is just my assumption or guess that this

709
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: defense is going to change in twenty twenty, five you're

710
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: gonna have more defensive lineman than you are. LINEBACKERS i

711
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: fully expect a four to three. Defense no one's gonna

712
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: say it because it's the we adapt, weekly BUT i do,

713
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: think based off the numbers and the, talent you got

714
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: to put more emphasis on those guys at the line of.

715
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: Scrimmage, Look nick rosis does such a great job at

716
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: disguising what his defenses, are so even if they are

717
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: typically a three four, defense there's only had times where

718
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: you'll have five outside, linebackers you, know coming off the

719
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: edge with only two guys with their hand in the.

720
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: Dirt BUT i would anticipate very similar to what you're Saying.

721
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: Craig you now have so much beef on that defensive

722
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: line With Dalvin, tomlinson With Kalais, campbell With Walter, nolan

723
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: with Lgib, collier with all these guys that they can

724
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: make a very big. Difference and it's funny BECAUSE i

725
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: was thinking back to our conversation With Rob frederickson over

726
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: the air after the selection Of Walter, nolan and he was,

727
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: saying how don't. Blitz just let your defensive linement do

728
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: the work inside the trenches and let guys Like Josh

729
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: sweat and b Jo jalai And Baron browning come off

730
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: the edge after you know you have those four man.

731
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: Rushes this could be the exact. Plan this follows the

732
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 3: mindset and the model of what they had In philadelphia

733
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: during that season Where Jonathan gannon's defense had seventy. Sacks

734
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: you had all those guys on that defense up, front

735
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: and then you had A sonretta coming off the edge

736
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: And Josh. Sweat that is starting to become the, formula

737
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: the blueprint for What Nick rowis is hoping to replicate

738
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: here In.

739
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: Arizona the Other Ohio state, Player Denzel, burke local product

740
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: At brophi And Solaro High schools here in The, VALLEY

741
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: pff Had burke is one of the best zone coverage

742
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: cornerbacks in the draft, class better than eighty percent zone. Coverage,

743
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: great here's someone that again listed as a. Cornerback could

744
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: he be Like Garrett williams when he came in cornerback

745
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: but we saw him working with the. SAFETIES i could

746
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: certainly See Denzel burke as far as a position. Wise,

747
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: yeah maybe he still had THAT cb next to his,

748
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: name but out there With Jalen, thompson out there With Buddha,

749
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: Baker Garrett williams and the.

750
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: Like, yeah that's very similar to What Garret. Williams gonna

751
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: have anybody's name next to him on in The cardinals depth,

752
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: chart he was Just Garrett williams there at that and

753
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: that nickel. Slot so he has the, frame he has the,

754
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: body and he also has the experience to play a

755
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: little bit more on the inside versus an outside. Corner

756
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: AND i think with the addition of Will, johnson you

757
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: don't necessarily Need Denzel burke to play there on the.

758
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: Outside you could have him learn From Garrett, williams a

759
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 3: guy who's on his way to becoming an all pro

760
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: talent and to see how he's able to adjust to,

761
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: that to that secondary. Room in, General Denzel burke is

762
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: awesome to have a local. Product he was talking about

763
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 3: how he remembers watching the games from the note weeds

764
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: At State Farm. Stadium the fact that now he gets

765
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 3: to where The cardinals bird head is very exciting for.

766
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: Him hopefully he'll be on game days on the field

767
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 1: and be able to look up in the stands where

768
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: he once upon watched his favorite players participate on game

769
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: day and all of a sudden complete one eighty from

770
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: when he was a fan growing.

771
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: Up, exactly and then he gets to basically do college

772
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: once over with with a lot Of buckeyes on this.

773
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 3: ROSTER i do want to go back to something about, that,

774
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: though because we think About mini brought it up AND

775
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: i didn't realize it until we were writing the article

776
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: post on day three And minie talked about how no

777
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: cornerback in college football's probably had a tougher challenge in

778
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: college Than Denzel, burke and you start to think about.

779
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: It Garrett wilson The New York, Jets Chris olave with The,

780
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: Saints Jackson smith And jigba with The Seattle, Seahawks Marvin

781
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: harrison junior with The, cardinals And Mecho buca went first

782
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: round to The Tampa Bay, buccaneers and Then Jeremiah smith

783
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: is going to become a first round during the next

784
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: year or. Two, MAN i can only imagine what those

785
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: practices were.

786
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: Like, yeah it wasn't just game day, competition but practice.

787
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: Competition each and everything made.

788
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 3: Game day competition look weak probably or.

789
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: A lot easier based Off, hey my toughest matchups were

790
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: during the, week which Made saturdays a lot.

791
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: Easier, exactly you practice like you, play and that's exactly

792
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: what Denzel berg was able to bring to the table real.

793
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: QUICK i mentioned The cardinals six rookie free. AGENTS i

794
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: talked about the wide receiver out Of, Wisconsin bryce And

795
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: grain mentioned the three offensive. Lineman there was a defensive

796
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: lineman as well out Of, Tennessee Elijah simmons six to,

797
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: one three thirty, four six seasons At, tennessee fifty five,

798
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: games fifty nine, tackles and someone that can really get

799
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: after the. Run last season all thirteen games At tennessee eleven,

800
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: tackles one and a half tackles for loss as Helping

801
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: tennessee get into the college football.

802
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: Playoffs big body guy. Too so look these, guys they

803
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: have opportunities now to make the. Roster they've agreed the

804
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: term so far in to see, them you, know battle it.

805
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: Out The cardinals have taken chances on YOU dfa guys

806
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: and they brought them onto the. ROSTER i Mentioned star

807
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: And Mario demricado is another player that they have an opportunity.

808
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: Now For Elijah simmons being in that defensive line, room,

809
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: man it's a crowded room to break, into but you

810
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: set your mind to, it anything's.

811
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: Possible craig the last player tight End Texas San Antonio's Oscar,

812
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: cardenis who's a big bodied tight end sixty four to

813
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: sixty five but sixty five receptions for more than eleven

814
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: hundred yards and nine touchdowns last, season so certainly a big.

815
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: Target but also at least according to the, numbers solid

816
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: hands FOR, Utsa.

817
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: Cardinals are in twelve or thirteen personnel forty seven percent

818
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: of the, time so you already know what you got

819
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: In trey. McBride Elijah higgins is that second pass catching tight.

820
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: End you, Know Tip ryman's going to be that. Maller

821
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: do you potentially rotate Between cardenas and And Elijah hayiggans

822
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: to be that pass catcher two tight. End that'll be

823
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: the job For Drew petsy.

824
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: To figure, Out, well you don't want that?

825
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: Job, NO i. Don't I'm but then, again THEN i

826
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: can't complain or you, know critique Unless i'm accountable And

827
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: i've raised a hand up AND i, go my?

828
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: Bad is that because you didn't get good enough grades

829
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: to be able to Handle, then as we go full

830
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: circle here On cardinals.

831
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: Cover, two once, again my grades ended up getting us

832
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: into the same. Spot that's, true, Yes but looking at

833
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: the looking at the draftees right, now out of all

834
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: the players that we, drafted seven, guys who is most

835
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: likely to start game one week? One out of the seven,

836
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 3: guys who would you project to be out there or multiple.

837
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: Guys dart week? One, Kems i'm looking at the, list

838
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: WOULD i? Okay out of the out of the, Seven

839
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: i'm gonna Say Cody, SIMON.

840
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: I agree with, THAT i. TOTALLY i can't.

841
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: BELIEVE i just said that out loud for A day three.

842
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: Selection But i'm looking at, yes defensive, line stack, room,

843
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: cornerback stacked room again until he proves it, Otherwise, Well

844
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: johnson's always gonna have the question mark as far as the.

845
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: Health Jordan birch stack. Room but you talk about, starting

846
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: AND i always say it it's one, snap that's all it.

847
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: Is but playing, overall playing, Time i'm just curious on

848
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: how Quickly cody can master the, playbook not be swimming

849
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: in all the different assignments and schemes and be able to.

850
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Adjust and then, again as you're the inside, linebacker whether

851
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: you're telling the guys up front or guys in the

852
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: back behind, you as far as all, right maybe you

853
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: do need to make some adjustments as well as that inside.

854
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: Linebacker it'll be interesting if they keep him as A

855
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: mic like he was At Ohio, state or if they

856
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 3: move him over to the will, side the weak, side

857
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: or the sam strong. Side he's a prospect THAT i

858
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 3: know this coaching staff raved. ABOUT i was looking through

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Speaker 3: his profile on The Ohio state's website and through all

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Speaker 1: Just leave it at that now conversation when he arrives.

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Speaker 3: Here by the, Way Brady News Isaiah simmons going to

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Speaker 1: No now it's just all about speculating on how these

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Speaker 1: On that, note we will put a lit. On this

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Speaker 1: For Zach, Kershman I'm Craig. Rayelou we'll talk to you

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