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Speaker 1: And Yes, Dan and the Dan that's off. Rob Parker here, TJ. Houshmanzata,

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Speaker 1: the former All Pro wide receiver there, and man, we

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Speaker 1: got a great show for you today. Christmas knocking on

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Speaker 1: the door Christmas Eve. Always a great day, TJ. What's

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Speaker 1: happening buddy man? Rob Parker, how are you doing up

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Speaker 1: early in the morning out here in southern California? Man,

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Speaker 1: look forward to having a great show man. So much

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Speaker 1: to talk about. And everybody knows TJ. Houshmnzata for two reasons.

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Speaker 1: That last name, because nobody has that name other than you.

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Speaker 1: Am I right? I would believe you're correct with that

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Speaker 1: serious I've never heard that name for anybody else. And

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Speaker 1: that ponytail that everybody saw and that you still have

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Speaker 1: to this day. Yeah, my head is too big to

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Speaker 1: be cutting my hair wrapped. So this this hair is

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Speaker 1: it going anywhere? That's one thing that I do have.

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Speaker 1: my hair unless mother nature takes it, it's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm in my forties, so I hope it

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Speaker 1: continues to stay with me. There you go. And for

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Speaker 1: people who don't know Rob Parker from The Odd Couple

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Speaker 1: with Chris Bussard weeknights seven to ten pm Eastern right

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Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. And t J. Houshmnzada has

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Speaker 1: a radio show called Up on Game with TJ, LeVar

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Speaker 1: Arrington and Plexico Buris, and that's on Saturdays one to

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Speaker 1: three pm Eastern right here on Fox Sports Radio. TJ.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the news of the day, which started

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Speaker 1: last night winning them a fine James Harden fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars and ruled him unavailable for Wednesday's game against okayc

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Speaker 1: due to violation of the league's COVID nineteen protocols after

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Speaker 1: the league reviewed a video of him socializing maskless at

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Speaker 1: a club earlier in the week. He said it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a strip club. It was just a club and strippers

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Speaker 1: just happened to come by or whatever, and he was

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Speaker 1: supporting a friend. But he will not be suspended by

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Speaker 1: the league. And TJ. As a player, I know players

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Speaker 1: always stick together. James Harden is a ball or we

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Speaker 1: know that he's a talent, but tj. If you're a

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Speaker 1: teammate with the Rockets and you see the video, we

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Speaker 1: know what's going on in the country. What's you know?

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Speaker 1: COVID is surging and people are sick and contracting it.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel today? I mean, it's just one

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Speaker 1: of these things where these guys got to understand that

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Speaker 1: you're putting I'm not sure if James Harden has children,

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Speaker 1: and I don't believe he does. But what happens is

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Speaker 1: because you can affect so many people and their family

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Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of players on professional teams, specifically

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Speaker 1: have family members that have been affected by the coronavirus,

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Speaker 1: and so you just want to be aware of soul

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Speaker 1: so that you're not putting your teammates and their families

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Speaker 1: at risk. And this season for the NBA is going

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Speaker 1: to be very, very challenging because this isn't the bubble,

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Speaker 1: this isn't a confined area for three months. These dudes

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Speaker 1: who are single, pocket full of money. Right, Harden makes

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Speaker 1: over half a million dollars a game a game, and

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Speaker 1: so you're single. Even the ones that are married or

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Speaker 1: have girlfriends, it's hard to tell them to go from

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Speaker 1: easier to do obviously when you're in a bubble like

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Speaker 1: do it an entire season, it's virtually impossible. You just

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Speaker 1: want guys to make great decisions. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: got caught. There's other guys that are doing it. He

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Speaker 1: just got caught. But these guys got They need to

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Speaker 1: be selfless because you have too many players on the

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Speaker 1: team that have families that they don't want to take

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Speaker 1: this back to. And that's that's the biggest thing. I'll

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Speaker 1: But but this happened before in baseball TJ because the

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Speaker 1: And you remember there was no bubble for baseball, right,

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Speaker 1: And you don't just you noticed TJ giveaway good pitching

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Nobody will want him. He's selfish, he's this, he's that.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, James Harden will survive this

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Speaker 1: Because the one thing. When you're that kind of talent

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Speaker 1: saw it in the NFL, guys beating up women, beating children, drugs, alcohol,

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Speaker 1: vehiculohamicide and you know what, TJ they got a second chances.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, James Harden will not be staying by this.

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Speaker 1: When when you can put the ball in the in

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Speaker 1: somewhere there's I would venture to say every team in

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Speaker 1: up what they have to give up? That's the question.

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Speaker 1: And yes, James Harden is a selfish player, and plenty

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Speaker 1: plenty the majority of players are selfish to a certain degree.

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Speaker 1: But this just is a different dynamic that we're dealing

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he is. It's just James Harden in the

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Speaker 1: James Harden. James harn can play. And if James Harren

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Speaker 1: it's just not what you're looking for. During this time,

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Speaker 1: Especially in a locker room, right NBA locker room now

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Speaker 1: be aware. And it's gonna be tough when you're not

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Speaker 1: in a bubble rob and you're single again, you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be very very challenging season for the NBA because

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Speaker 1: And so it's gonna be a challenging season for the NBA,

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Speaker 1: and just hopefully these dudes make the right decisions and

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Speaker 1: real quick. If you're Brooklyn, because Brooklyn was on James

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Speaker 1: and how Kyrie and Kade look. Would you even entertain

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Speaker 1: that like bringing James Harden to Brooklyn? If I'm any

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Speaker 1: and so what do I entertain it? Yes, I do.

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Speaker 1: I see it working. That would be interesting because Kyrie Irving,

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Speaker 1: shot off. James Harden is a guy that dribble, dribble, dribble,

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Speaker 1: What's going on this morning? My man? Good morning, guys,

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Speaker 1: what's happening? Welcome to the Dan Patrick Show on a

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve? Where appreciate you joining us and happy, happy,

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Speaker 1: happy Christmas Eve of you guys and everybody out there.

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Speaker 1: So there's no doubt. And of course you guys have

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Speaker 1: You know, none of us uh sports writers broadcasters are

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Speaker 1: into into sports radio talk. Um. We're you know, we're

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Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's justified, you know, But I think I

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Speaker 1: Morning tj Our number two here on the Dan Patrick Show,

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Speaker 1: three Super Bowl MVPs. Two of the Super Bowls he

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Speaker 1: had to throw touchdowns to win, including one against the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: And he won two Super Bowls with Jerry Rice and

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Speaker 1: two without Jerry Rice. I don't know what else you

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Speaker 1: can do when you talk about a quarterback. But why

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Speaker 1: would Tom Brady get all worked up over Tony Dungee

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Speaker 1: in his opinion? Why because Tom is still trying to

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Speaker 1: convince people that he's the greatest quarterback ever, that he

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Speaker 1: is the gold That's why he's wearing that ugly uniform

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Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. He's down there trying to convince people.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Bill Belichick system, it was about me. I

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Speaker 1: don't agree. You know why I don't because when they

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Speaker 1: won those first three Super Bowls, go look, TJ. It

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Speaker 1: was about defense, and it was about Adam Vne Terry

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Speaker 1: the best kicker in the NFL in NFL history. And

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Speaker 1: you can talk about Tom Brady in the last three

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Speaker 1: where some things went the right way. Seattle should have

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Speaker 1: won that Super Bowl. Atlanta's up twenty eight to three

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Speaker 1: and field goal range to put them up five eleven.

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Speaker 1: That was indeed that you talk about the defense. This

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Speaker 1: the defense that let me just give you some numbers

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Speaker 1: and I'll let you figure out what they mean. Two

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Speaker 1: twenty four and sixty six, fifty five and sixty nine.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what those mean? You know what it

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Speaker 1: was that two twenty four and sixty six with twelve

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Speaker 1: is his quarterback, that's Belichick. Fifty five and sixty nine

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Speaker 1: without twelve is his quarterback. That's enough said right there.

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Speaker 1: I mean to me that that answers everything. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: answer every it has to because Tom Brady is a

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Speaker 1: six round draft pick. When you're draft at that late,

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Speaker 1: you always have that chip on your shoulder. You always

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Speaker 1: feel like you have to prove yourself and so tjaeks

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Speaker 1: always going to have that. In their last three Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl wins, the defense gave up no points in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Oh my god, role wait a minute, when

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Speaker 1: they beat the ram That was a great defensive performance.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady had no touchdowns and at ut an interception

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Speaker 1: at a fumble right, and they held the Rams, who

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Speaker 1: had the fifth gradest offense in the history of the

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Speaker 1: National Football League, not that season, the fifth gradst offense,

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Speaker 1: and they held them to three points at eighty nine

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Speaker 1: yard field goal. That's all they got in that same Well,

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Speaker 1: and let's talk to Atlanta Falcons Super Bowl. How many

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Speaker 1: yards and points did the defense give up? Then, like

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Speaker 1: we can we can't. We can't give the defense to

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Speaker 1: credit when they do what they did against the Rams,

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Speaker 1: and then not give Brady the credit when he does

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Speaker 1: what he did against the Falcons. We got ways with it,

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Speaker 1: I am, but let's not forget it was twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to three and they held him after that point, the

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Speaker 1: defense to allow Tom Brady to be able to get

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Speaker 1: back in the game. I'm not taking way what Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady did at all. I'm just saying, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Adam VENETI those first three Super Bowls when they won

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Speaker 1: the first Super Bowl, after they got the talk rule

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Speaker 1: and they got the ball back when Brady fumble right.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady had one touchdown in the entire postseason that

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl year. Do you know that the first Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl they won? Yes, he had one touchdown. So I'm

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Speaker 1: the story and the picture that people paint is that

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Speaker 1: it's all about Brady, and all I'm saying it's not

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Speaker 1: all about never I've I've been a critic of anyone

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Speaker 1: that always gives the quarterback all the credit because football

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Speaker 1: is an ultimate team sport. You need eleven guys when

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Speaker 1: they're getting sacked. Oh, the offensive line can block when

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Speaker 1: guys don't catch the ball. When guys can't go, he

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Speaker 1: needs better receivers. And then when you give a quarterback

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Speaker 1: all these weapons. And I'm not just talking skill guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to guys the offensive line as well. Oh,

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, quarterback plays well. The quarterback takes way

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Speaker 1: too much of the blame when things go bad, and

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Speaker 1: they get way too much credit when things go well.

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Speaker 1: It's the ultimate team sport. But if this is the

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Speaker 1: way things are going to be, we have to give

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Speaker 1: him his credit. And oh, he didn't play great, but

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Speaker 1: he made a great throw when it mattered. And so

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady will always get his credit from me, because

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Speaker 1: when you're a sixth round pick, you have to be

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Speaker 1: perfect just to get an opportunity in practice, you gotta

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Speaker 1: be People don't understand that you don't. You don't have to.

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Speaker 1: I was a late round. You don't have room for

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Speaker 1: error in practice, because if you look bad in practice,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go in that meat room. Is I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this guy can play. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we can count on this guy. And so just from

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Speaker 1: that perspective, he had to be on his a game

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Speaker 1: all the time, not just in a game in practice,

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Speaker 1: and that says a lot in People don't understand that

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Speaker 1: because they really don't want you to play. They want

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Speaker 1: those guys they've drafted, hired in you, that they've invested

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Speaker 1: more money in to play ahead of you. And you

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Speaker 1: have to really give him a reason not to. And

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Speaker 1: that's by doing everything right leading up to Sunday. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon

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Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at

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Speaker 1: let's welcome in Ben Voland from the Boston Globe. He

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Speaker 1: is a Patriots beat writer and covers the team. Hey Ben,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you. Yes, merried Christmas to you. And obviously,

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Speaker 1: whenever Don Brady's out there, that's going to be passionate

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Speaker 1: on both sides. And what did you make of the

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Speaker 1: Tony Dungee podcast appearance on Shannon Sharp's podcast where he

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Speaker 1: said that Brady was like the sixth toughest quarterback he faced.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady wasn't happy about it. He didn't say anything

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Speaker 1: naming Dungee, but he put up like something on Twitter

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Speaker 1: talking about the Colts and how they were a finalist

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. What do you make of this? And

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Speaker 1: why is Tom Brady always pushing back when people on

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Speaker 1: crowning him the goat? I mean, I think he was

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Speaker 1: having a little fun with it. On social media he

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Speaker 1: posted the Colts twenty fourteen AFC finalist banner, which has

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Speaker 1: become a big joke here in the New England area

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Speaker 1: that a team would celebrate, you know, making the conference

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Speaker 1: championship game, but you know, you know, Dungee said this

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Speaker 1: before about Tom Brady. He's always had him ranked a

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Speaker 1: little bit lower than everyone else on his list. And

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Speaker 1: I think what Dungee's talking about is when he was

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Speaker 1: a coach and he had to face quarterbacks, he had

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Speaker 1: a tougher time against the mobile quarterbacks to Steve Young's

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Speaker 1: and John Always and Tom Brady's obviously not a mobile quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and just you know, to for Dungee standards, it was

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Speaker 1: a little tougher defending those other guys. Now, Uh, Brady's

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Speaker 1: had certainly a lot more success in the league, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would argue that there's no more

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Speaker 1: accomplished quarterback in NFL history than Tom Brady, and even

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Speaker 1: Dunge would admit that. But you know, Brady, I think

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Speaker 1: was just pushing back and having a little fun. And

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Speaker 1: obviously his fan dated up and everyone was talking about it,

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Speaker 1: so that was probably a good move by him, social

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Speaker 1: media wise. But uh, you know, the Colt and the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: they have this little rivalry, you know, Tony Dungee, Bill

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Speaker 1: whole in build. There's there's not a lot of lost

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Speaker 1: love there, so, uh, you know, Brady's not just gonna

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Speaker 1: sit back and take it. He's gonna poke the bear too. Man,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Man? Merry Christmas? I'm a just to

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Speaker 1: TJ put you on the spot really quick. Where where

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Speaker 1: would you rank mister Tom Brady? I mean I put

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Speaker 1: him number one U six super Bowls, more than anyone else? Uh,

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Speaker 1: twenty first year of his career. Now still throwing for

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Speaker 1: four thousand yards at age or about two at age

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Speaker 1: forty three. Um, just a level of consistency and dominance

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Speaker 1: that the NFL has never seen. Um. I understand Joe

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Speaker 1: Montana was incredible and John Elway drag some really bad

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Speaker 1: teams to the Super Bowl. Um, Peyton Manning was great,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know how you pick anyone other than

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the best. And look, I'm the Boston Globe,

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Speaker 1: so you know it's gonna make me sound like a Homer.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not the Boston Globe, and I agree,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I'm at the Boston Globe.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, well, Ben uh and I guess

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Speaker 1: as Ben Voland from the Boston Globe covers the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: But here's my other thing. Okay, so everybody salivated over

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Speaker 1: all the weapons that Tom Brady had down in Tampa

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Speaker 1: and oh my god, look at this. And then they

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Speaker 1: go out and get Shady McCoy and they go get

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Speaker 1: hurt right Lena Fournette, and they get Gronk and they

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Speaker 1: get Antonio Brown and Tom Brady doesn't even make the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Despite the numbers you were talking about, why

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Speaker 1: didn't Tom Brady make the Pro Bowl? I arguably would

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Speaker 1: have picked him over Kyler Murray as the other quarterback.

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Speaker 1: To me, that was kind of the key decision. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Brady's hasn't had an incredible season. It's

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Speaker 1: been good, but you know, it's like that Eagles team

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Speaker 1: from a decade ago when they call themselves the you know,

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Speaker 1: the All Star Team or whatever. It's it's really hard

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Speaker 1: to it's really hard to put a team together in

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Speaker 1: free agency on the fly and have it all click,

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Speaker 1: especially when they don't have an off season program or

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Speaker 1: a preseason. You just get dropped into the regular season,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you have to start playing right away.

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Speaker 1: And you know, all those names you mentioned, like Rob

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Speaker 1: Ronkowski's at the end of his career, or Antonio Brown's

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Speaker 1: been had a football for a year and a half,

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Speaker 1: Shady McCoy's at the end of his career. Leonard Fournette

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Speaker 1: was dumped by the Jaguars. So you know, these are

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Speaker 1: big names, but you know they still have a lot

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Speaker 1: of talent, no question, Godwin and Evans and Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: is I think still has a lot of talent. So

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Speaker 1: they have it there. But you know, it's not easy

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Speaker 1: to make it all click, you know, in the first season,

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Speaker 1: like that was always the thing about Brady with his

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Speaker 1: receivers in New England. He needed time to gain trust

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Speaker 1: with them and really work with them. Well now he's

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Speaker 1: got a whole new team of new receivers other than

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Speaker 1: Gronk and Antonio Brown, and so he's just you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it hasn't fully clicked as as well as everyone thought,

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Speaker 1: but they're still right, you know, on the verge of

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Speaker 1: making the playoffs and still can make some noise. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it certainly hasn't been a disaster of a

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Speaker 1: season by any stretch. But you know, it hasn't been

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Speaker 1: this magical fourteen and two run either. It's been a

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Speaker 1: good season in my opinion. Let's get to let's get

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Speaker 1: to Boston Tom Newton experiment. He's admitted it's been a

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Speaker 1: little tougher than he thought. He hasn't played the way

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Speaker 1: he would have liked to have played. What do the

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Speaker 1: Patriots do moving forward at the quarterback position. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a million dollar question. And it's easy to

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Speaker 1: say a good draft a kid, But I was looking

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Speaker 1: at the league and they're gonna be up to like

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Speaker 1: as many as fourteen teams that want a quarterback this offseason,

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Speaker 1: so there's gonna be a lot of competition for the

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Speaker 1: draft picks. I think there's a chance that Cam Newton

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Speaker 1: comes back next year. Now, I don't think he's the answer,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think the Patriots view him as the answer.

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Speaker 1: But if they want a veteran quarterback to you know,

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Speaker 1: even if they do draft a rookie, if they want

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Speaker 1: a veteran to kind of start the season as the starter,

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Speaker 1: I think Cam is a decent shop for that. Belichick

636
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Speaker 1: and Josh McDaniels have just been raving about Cam all

637
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: year long, about his work ethic and how much he's

638
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: bought in and how much they appreciate, you know. Belichick

639
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: says Cam has worked hard as any player I've ever

640
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: been around, and just on and on and on, and

641
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's it hasn't the easiest circumstance for Cam

642
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: Newton either, no preseason, new team, new system, you know,

643
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: and probably the worst weapons in the NFL, a tight

644
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: end and receiver. So while it hasn't been a good

645
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: season for him, you know, I think there are still

646
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: some positives. They still with the worst talent in the NFL,

647
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: they still won six games. So I think there's a

648
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Speaker 1: chance that Cam is back next year. But he's not

649
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: the long term answer. His arm strength is just I

650
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: don't want to say shot, but it's just not there.

651
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: And you know, his his mechanics are still kind of

652
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, all over the place, and his accuracy. So

653
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, the passing game has not been good and

654
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: Cam has not been playing well. But you know, as

655
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: far as being a leader, I still think he could

656
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: be back next year. How about up in New England

657
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: just to talk about you know, obviously the Patriots falling

658
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: on some hard times, Brady's down in Tampa. What what

659
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: what is the what has talked about the most? Is

660
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: it still about the Patriots or is it is it

661
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady? Like like what moves the needle up

662
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: in New England? Now, I mean kind of both. To

663
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: be honest, it's really been two home teams this year.

664
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Speaker 1: You look at like the most read articles on our website,

665
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: it's either a Patriots article or a Bus article. Every

666
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: time I write about Tom Brady, it shoos right to

667
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: the top. So, you know, the fans up here have

668
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: been fortunate. The Patriots and the Bucks have not really

669
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: played many games at the same time this year, So

670
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: the TV ratings are high for the Patriots games and

671
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: then they're high for the Bucks. Gets people just kind

672
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: of playing their day around watching both teams, And now

673
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are out, I definitely you know, you

674
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: get a lot of fans that are rooting hard for

675
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: Brady and they want to see him do it. And

676
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: then I think you have some fans work kind of

677
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: hate watching it. They want to see him fail, they

678
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: don't like the way he left the team, and you know,

679
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: they want to see him kind of crashing burn a

680
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: little bit. So whether you love them or hate him,

681
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: it's still very passionate about Tom Brady. And you know,

682
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: now that the Patriots are out of it, you know,

683
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: they're certainly a lot less interesting and all you can

684
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: really talk about with them is draft positioning. And what

685
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: are we going to do at quarter back and next

686
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: year and all that stuff. Whereas you know Brady is,

687
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: they're still gonna be a lot of eyeballs, you know,

688
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: glued to their TV watching Tom Brady up here and

689
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: waiting to see if he can make it all the

690
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: way to the Super Bowl. Well, moving forward, let's talk football,

691
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Your prediction, who comes out of the AFC.

692
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: Who do you believe comes out of the NFC? Especially

693
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: watching Buffalo a lot, you know in that division. Buffalo

694
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: is hot. Man, It's hard not to jump on the

695
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo bandwagon. They're they're a fun team and they've just

696
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: done everything right. I'm still thinking with Kansas City, I mean,

697
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: how can you note? I mean, this team won twenty

698
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: one in their last twenty two games, or might even

699
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: be twenty two of twenty three. They've got a good defense,

700
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: they have the best offense in the world, the best

701
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: quarterback in the world, eighty reads, an unbelievable coach. That's

702
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: a team that knows how to win. I think they're

703
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: gonna be the first team to repeat his Super Bowl

704
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: champs since the Patriots in three four. I just think

705
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Everything's kind of going their way this year.

706
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: NFC is wide open. I don't love the Packers, I

707
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: don't love the Saints. You know, my preseason pick was

708
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: a Chief Seahawks Super Bowl, So let's just stick with that,

709
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, Mahomes versus Russell Wilson. I think the NFC

710
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: is kind of wide open. It's it's good competition this year.

711
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: Even like, even if Washington wins the four seed, that's

712
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: not going to be an easy game for any team. So, um,

713
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's kind of a mixed bag in

714
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: the NFC. It seems like a real toss up. I'll

715
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: stick with the Seahawks because I just think they have

716
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: the best quarterback and you know, I've much improved defense

717
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: and they have the best quarterback. Really, you think he's

718
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the NFC right now. I mean,

719
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: there aren't many other people I take over Russell. I mean,

720
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: maybe Rogers, but Aaron Rodgers is having an MVP type season.

721
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Russell Wilson started off great, but

722
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: let's just beyond is at twelve picks, he's played poorly

723
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: for the most part during the second half. You wouldn't

724
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: say that he hasn't played poorly. He's come back down

725
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: to earthy. I mean, no question, he's throwing more picks

726
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: and they're they're letting Russ cook, but he's burning the meal. Okay,

727
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: but I still love I still love Russell Wilson, and

728
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: I just I think every other team out there is slaught.

729
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the Packers who they played

730
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: the other night, Carolina where Aaron Rodgers and the and

731
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: the offense. They did nothing in that second half, could

732
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: not put the Panthers. Yeah, but I think they too. Also,

733
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: they scored on their first three possessions and kind of

734
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: took their foot off the gas. I agree that they

735
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: could have done better. But man, Ben, we appreciate you.

736
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: So we'll write this down Seattle and the Chiefs in

737
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But Ben voland from the Boston Globe, Man,

738
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Speaker 1: we appreciate the knowledge. Thank you on the damn Christmas man, Hey,

739
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: all predictions guaranteed a your money back. Okay, Okay, we

740
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

741
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine

742
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,080
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743
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745
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: is the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio on your

746
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,799
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747
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,440
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749
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Speaker 1: that out as well. TJ. So much fun to do

756
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show and fill in for Dan and

757
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: the dannts on this Christmas Eve. Man, it's been it's

758
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: been fun in these two hours. It's like where does

759
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: the time go? And it's when you're having fun, time flies,

760
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: and that's what's going on. Two hours that fast, and

761
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: it seems like we just got started, no doubt, and

762
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: we got so much more to talk about. The NFL

763
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: will not rust on Christmas. There's a game on Christmas Day.

764
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: So we'll have that. But but TJ, let's get into

765
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and on our podcast. You know me,

766
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm willing to jump out there and say

767
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: some stuff. Be a little more sugar us, they might say,

768
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: which is crazy and Yiddish, Right, I'm I'm a sugar uh.

769
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: And when the Steelers were eleven, and oh, did I

770
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: not rent and rave to you that I thought they

771
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: would have worst eleven and old team I'd ever seen?

772
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: When the Steelers were six and oh seven, and all

773
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: you kept saying was the Steelers aren't very good, teach,

774
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yes, they are robbed eight. No, the

775
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: Steelers overrated. No, they're not robbed nine. And oh you

776
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: kept saying it when they were eleven and oh, You're like,

777
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: this is the worst eleven and old team I've ever seen.

778
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, rob when you're undefeated, you're not

779
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: a terrible team. And now that they've lost three in

780
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: a row, You're like, what had I've been telling you

781
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: for the last two months? And so, yeah, you're onto something,

782
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: and you know I get it. You know, I always

783
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: say sports has a short menu, TJ. Wins and losses,

784
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: that's all that's on the menu, right, So you'll take

785
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: a win by hook or crook or any way possible.

786
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: But just let me give you some numbers on how

787
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: bad things are. And they lost to your team, your

788
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: former team, the Bengals, and it was ugly, okay. The

789
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Steelers were entered the game fourteen and a half point favorites,

790
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: and with the loss, they matched the largest upset defeats

791
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty six. And after starting eleven and oh,

792
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: they became just the third team to ever lose their

793
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: next three games. So that doesn't happen that often in

794
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. And for the first time

795
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: in twenty seasons, including the postseason, the Steelers win three

796
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: and out on their first five possessions, including two fumbles

797
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: that led to ten points for the Bengals. The Steelers

798
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: have now scored fewer than twenty points TJ in four

799
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: straight games. That's the worst under Big Ben since two

800
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: thousand and four. And I'm telling you, as poorly as

801
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: Big Ben has played right now, I would take Uncle

802
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: Ben over Big Ben as my quarterback. That's how bad

803
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: it's been. The Steelers have been bad, and it starts

804
00:48:54,360 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: for them Offensively, they're they're defensively they've been fine. It's

805
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: just one they're not able to run the ball. And

806
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: so with them not being able to run the ball,

807
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: they are going to have to pass the ball effectively. Oh,

808
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: they lead the league and drops. And so when you

809
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: you're a team that can't run the ball and you

810
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: lead the league and drops, what what are you gonna do?

811
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: Ben hasn't been perfect, but his receivers if dropped balls,

812
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: Ben needs to be better. You talk just the Bengals game.

813
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: They couldn't run at all, and then those three turnovers

814
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: turn into seventeen points. The fubball snap and the two interceptions,

815
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: and so the Steelers are hurting and they have to

816
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: play a really good defensive team in the coach. I mean,

817
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: when when you look at the Steelers, just in rushing,

818
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: James Connors are leading rusher. He's twentieth in the league

819
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: with six hundred and sixty three yards twentieth. And this

820
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: is the Pittsburgh Steelers. When you think Pittsburgh Steelers, you

821
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: think Frank O'Hare's Jerome Bettist pounding the ball and so

822
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: Levion Bell. They're not able to run the ball effectively,

823
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Speaker 1: and so if they can't run the ball, if they

824
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: can't play action pass you and they don't have that

825
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: receiver where the safety is gonna play over the top,

826
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna cloud coverage them, they're gonna double team. They

827
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: don't have that type of receiver. So Ben really has

828
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: to count on guys to get open and not know

829
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: what the defense is going to do because they don't

830
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: have an ab where you know they're gonna double this guy,

831
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Speaker 1: and so defenses can kind of play certain coverages. It

832
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: might confuse them, or might just slow him down enough

833
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Speaker 1: to where that pass rush can get there. Eight seven

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Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine

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Speaker 1: six sixty three sixty nine. Definitely want to hear your

836
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Speaker 1: take on the Steelers as well. Another issue that they

837
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Speaker 1: have Juju Smith Schuster, the wide receiver who was dancing

838
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: on the field before the game and now he's pledged

839
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: not to do it anymore. And TJ is is that

840
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: a distraction that the Steelers need? You know, what do

841
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: you make up of Juju in this case? I'm gonna

842
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: be honest with you, man, I don't mind the dancing.

843
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: I mean he's performing before. The one thing if he

844
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: was on soul train or something. No, he just needs

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Speaker 1: to perform during the game. That's the That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: If if he was playing well, it wouldn't be a

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Speaker 1: big deal. The dude is having fun before the game,

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Speaker 1: and I get the other teams look at it as disrespect.

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Speaker 1: I probably would too, But when you lose, it comes

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Speaker 1: with the territory of the team not performing the way

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Speaker 1: they expect to perform. And Juju since ab left, has

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Speaker 1: not been the same. Like when you when you look

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Speaker 1: at just receiving in the league, Juju is forty four.

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Speaker 1: Here's the number. That's that's unbelievable. He has not had

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Speaker 1: a hundred yards receiving since he left. And think about this.

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Speaker 1: They throw all the time now, right, they don't because

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Speaker 1: they can't run the ball, so they're throwing the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's not like they're not throwing it. I mean when

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Speaker 1: you when you look at the Steelers, in essence, he's

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Speaker 1: our number three receiver because Deontay Deontay Johnson he has

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Speaker 1: the most catches, he has seventy seven, and then Chase Claypool,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, Juju has the most catches. Deontay Thompson

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Speaker 1: Johnson has the most charts and then Claypool has the

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Speaker 1: second most charts, and then juju he in essence, is

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Speaker 1: the number three receiver. And that's the problem because he's

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Speaker 1: not playing the way people expect him to play, considering

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Speaker 1: how he played when he had that fourteen hundred yards season.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's before the game starts. He's having fun.

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Speaker 1: The game hasn't started. You can do what you want

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Speaker 1: to do. But what has happened is they've lost three

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Speaker 1: in a row, and it's he's worried about other things. No,

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Speaker 1: the dude is actually worried about the game. They're just losing,

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Speaker 1: and so people want to find point a finger at

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Speaker 1: what's the reason why. This is the reason why. That's

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Speaker 1: not the reason why they're losing. But they're getting tired

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Speaker 1: of answering the question. Now, is ju Jus tiktoks the

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Speaker 1: reason we're losing? No, because if when he was tiktoking

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Speaker 1: in weeks one through eleven, was it a problem? Absolutely

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Speaker 1: or not? It wasn't a problem. It's the last three games.

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Speaker 1: It's a problem. Why because they're all in three? No,

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Speaker 1: I get it, And when you lose, people look for

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Speaker 1: reasons why. And also when your coach has to answer

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Speaker 1: for it, and your teammates have to answer for your antics.

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Speaker 1: That's when definitely it's a problem. So my question as

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Speaker 1: we go forward with the Pittsburgh Steelers, because because what's

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Speaker 1: unbelievable TJ at eleven and oh, nobody was like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to the super Bowl, They're gonna

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Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs. Nobody took them seriously as far as

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Speaker 1: like making some sort of big playoff run. So my

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Speaker 1: question is, are the Steelers Bologny or for la? Are

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Speaker 1: you buy? Can they get this turned around the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks, get this righted and make a run in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs? TJ? Can they do that? Can they write

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Speaker 1: the ship I'm gonna give me shortened to the point. No,

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Speaker 1: they play the Colts in the Cleveland Browns. Those two

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Speaker 1: teams can really play in that. They could lose those

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Speaker 1: two games, right, very very realistic. Thanks for listening to

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