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Speaker 1: want to take us back to two thousand and sixteen
Speaker 1: November early November twenty sixteen. It's when the Chicago Cubs
Speaker 1: and the then Cleveland Indians were playing in the World Series.
Speaker 1: It was a great World Series. The Cubs haven't won
Speaker 1: a World Series in forever. And they are on the
Speaker 1: cusp of winning this thing, and upstets Raji Davis and
Speaker 1: the eighth inning against Eraaldis Chapman. Most of us that
Speaker 1: were there that night think, okay, advantage Chapman. This game
Speaker 1: is over. It's eight to six, and this is gonna
Speaker 1: be it. The Cubs are gonna win the World Series.
Speaker 1: And lo and behold, rage Davis steps up and hits
Speaker 1: one of the most memorable home runs in World Series history.
Speaker 1: And then I remember the rain delay. I'm sitting in
Speaker 1: the in sort of an auxiliary bullpen because the game
Speaker 1: was over, and we start to sneak into a position
Speaker 1: to get on the field for a post game baseball
Speaker 1: tonight in Sports Center, and I'm sitting, honest to God,
Speaker 1: in this auxiliary bullpen and the rain starts coming down,
Speaker 1: and You're like, they're not gonna They're not gonna bang
Speaker 1: this and move these teams inside. And I'm sitting or
Speaker 1: standing next to Sarah Langs, who is, of course, are
Speaker 1: near and dear, an ardent baseball fan, stricken with als
Speaker 1: and fighting like hell through that thing and working with
Speaker 1: us on our baseball shows. And that's a memory I
Speaker 1: will share with Sarah for the rest of my life,
Speaker 1: and I know she holds that due to her heart.
Speaker 1: They go in. Apparently in this few minutes, Hayward gives
Speaker 1: this speech back come the Cubs. Cubs win the dang
Speaker 1: game and they are the World Series champions. But it
Speaker 1: didn't spoil the moment, I don't think, and certainly the
Speaker 1: memory for Rajai Davis. You have memories of the game
Speaker 1: seven that night?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I think when you talk about iconic home runs,
Speaker 2: it's you know, you kind of go off the top
Speaker 2: of your head some of the things that happened and
Speaker 2: where you were, and you kind of remember where you
Speaker 2: were that night. And I think it just you have
Speaker 2: two cities just just craving a championship, right, And I
Speaker 2: think that's what made that so unique, was just that
Speaker 2: swing of like back and forth and back and forth
Speaker 2: of two basically curses, right that you're kind of dealing
Speaker 2: with that they're trying to get past. So I think
Speaker 2: it just made it super cool. I'm excited to talk
Speaker 2: to raj about it.
Speaker 1: Well, let's bring him in. Raji Davis joins us now
Speaker 1: on dirt from the dugout. We are so delighted to
Speaker 1: have you. How are you a big fellow. Thanks very
Speaker 1: much for being with us.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well, Thank you, thanks for having me. This
Speaker 3: is gonna be exciting.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've never been asked about that home run,
Speaker 1: and that's I've read all the stories and quotes about it.
Speaker 1: Do you do you find yourself having to come up
Speaker 1: with fresh material in order to address that or does
Speaker 1: the moment speak for itself.
Speaker 3: The moment I'm able to get myself back in that moment,
Speaker 3: you guys can bring me right back in at any time.
Speaker 2: Roger, I got to share this with you. One time.
Speaker 2: I was at Aaron Boone's house and we were talking
Speaker 2: to him and his wife came over and we were
Speaker 2: talking about the you know, his iconic home run, right,
Speaker 2: and we were kind of laughing, and his wife was saying,
Speaker 2: are you guys talking about the home run again? And
Speaker 2: Boone says something like, Hey, I should have just an
Speaker 2: on video here on a TV, just replaying that thing
Speaker 2: over and over and I can talk about it all
Speaker 2: day long. Is that how you feel?
Speaker 3: Man? Oh? Absolutely? I mean how many guys, first off,
Speaker 3: have gotten an opportunity to be in that moment, to
Speaker 3: share that with all the fans, with all the people
Speaker 3: who are baseball fans, you know, people who are not
Speaker 3: even fans of our teams that were in the World
Speaker 3: Series remember the moment. They remember where they were just
Speaker 3: like you said, that is something that I get the
Speaker 3: cherishs and share with my family and friends and former
Speaker 3: baseball players, you know, even the Hall of famers that
Speaker 3: I come across, you know, they remember that moment.
Speaker 1: Many of who never had that opportunity. Making it so
Speaker 1: great were the factors of the Cubs who've not won
Speaker 1: a World Series in one hundred years, the Indians at
Speaker 1: that point, who hadn't won one in a long time.
Speaker 1: A game seven rarely does a game seven live up
Speaker 1: to what you hope it would live up to yours did.
Speaker 1: But for the for the people at home that are
Speaker 1: checking this out and our members here, I want you
Speaker 1: to kind of explain your mindset going up to the
Speaker 1: plate against the most dominant reliever in baseball, a guy
Speaker 1: the Cubs went out to get how you prepared for
Speaker 1: the at bad against the role as Chapman, and take
Speaker 1: take us kind of through the way you thought through
Speaker 1: that at that.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he had been dominant all year. You know,
Speaker 3: I didn't realize how dominant he was. Until that game
Speaker 3: was over and I looked at the stacks and I
Speaker 3: realized that he had not given up a home run
Speaker 3: since June that year, and I had not hit a
Speaker 3: home run since August of that year. So, you know,
Speaker 3: going into this moment, you know, we all knew what
Speaker 3: we were up against. We know that we're going to
Speaker 3: at some point. Chapman was coming out. He was throwing
Speaker 3: every single game. So every day we were preparing for,
Speaker 3: especially us as platoon players, guys who are going in late,
Speaker 3: guys are going in to get an opportunity to hit
Speaker 3: against the left handed hurler. Right. So for me, it
Speaker 3: did not start that night. It did not start the
Speaker 3: first night of the World Series. It started well before
Speaker 3: that with a text message. It started with a former
Speaker 3: teammate of mine actually in a ball Bobby Kingsbury. He
Speaker 3: he gave me a text, He sent me a text.
Speaker 3: It was kind of long. You know, he was actually
Speaker 3: from the Cleveland area, lived in the Cleveland area, and
Speaker 3: you know, he was telling me that, you know, he
Speaker 3: kind of felt like I was gonna do something big,
Speaker 3: you know, and I, just being who I am, I said, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna agree with that I'm gonna agree with that,
Speaker 3: but yes, yes, absolutely, I'm gonna go with that. But
Speaker 3: but for me, it was it was it was more
Speaker 3: of a spiritual move than anything else. It was it
Speaker 3: was more of a seed that was being planted within me.
Speaker 3: And I knew all about seeds because I've been playing
Speaker 3: seas my whole life, whether it's my preparation, whether it's
Speaker 3: my working outside when nobody else was looking, swinging the bat,
Speaker 3: throwing the ball against the wall, the tennis balls, whatever
Speaker 3: ball I could find, I'm throwing against the house, thrown
Speaker 3: against breaking things, breaking when those breaking houses, it was,
Speaker 3: it was my thing. I was preparing the entire way.
Speaker 3: But you know, this was when he sent this text,
Speaker 3: it just made me think about a moment that I
Speaker 3: could possibly be a part of in the World Series.
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, I'm going through all these scenarios that
Speaker 3: would that would make sense to me, and I could
Speaker 3: only think of you know, really, it was the Joe Carter,
Speaker 3: you know, when I was in literally when he hit
Speaker 3: the walk off, I was that was one of my
Speaker 3: favorite teams in Toronto, watching the per.
Speaker 1: You went all the way back to nineteen ninety three years,
Speaker 1: so you were thinking home run. I mean you actually
Speaker 1: went up there and said I could have my moment.
Speaker 1: I could tie this game up here with one swing.
Speaker 1: That was that was a conscious thought.
Speaker 3: So my thought when he sent that text was literally,
Speaker 3: what can it be that's going to give the largest impact?
Speaker 3: And I kept rehearsing it over and over and over
Speaker 3: in my mind every single day, every single moment. And
Speaker 3: during that time, I would, you know, get facials done
Speaker 3: because I like to take care of my body, especially
Speaker 3: my feet, but my face too. Right. So, and there
Speaker 3: was a spiritual lady that that I would go to consistently.
Speaker 3: We were, but she said something to me that really strung,
Speaker 3: really hit home for me. And she was a spiritual lady,
Speaker 3: so she believed God. I believe God. And she said, Raja,
Speaker 3: you never asked God for help. I said, hmm, you're right.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about that.
Speaker 1: I hadn't.
Speaker 3: I hadn't done that too often. I was like, because
Speaker 3: when I started my career, when I when I was
Speaker 3: in rookie ball, you know that's one thing I did
Speaker 3: every single bat Before the bat, you know, I would
Speaker 3: I would have a prayer. I would say, you know,
Speaker 3: ask God to help me out use my hands, use
Speaker 3: my mind, use my body, and I hit three eighty
Speaker 3: four in rookie ball and doing that, and then I
Speaker 3: kind of just kind of got away with it, just
Speaker 3: doing it. And then she just reminded me of the
Speaker 3: very beginning, my very first love, right, And so for me,
Speaker 3: it was just waiting for the opportunity. And I think
Speaker 3: it was Game five, I had stole three bases in
Speaker 3: the game, and I believe that was a world series
Speaker 3: record at the time. And I was thinking, is that
Speaker 3: it is? That? Is that the moment? No, No, they
Speaker 3: can't be the moment. That's not big enough, that's not
Speaker 3: loud enough.
Speaker 1: That's a small box I want to go after.
Speaker 3: Exactly because in my because in my my quiet time,
Speaker 3: I could hear it. It was really loud. I could
Speaker 3: feel it, I could see it. I was I was
Speaker 3: so engrossed in what I did pre game, before the
Speaker 3: game even started, before I even got to the field.
Speaker 3: This was part of my daily routine, my daily ritual.
Speaker 3: I would not uh forget to do this because especially
Speaker 3: if I was off, I knew how to get myself
Speaker 3: back in you know, two weeks. I could get myself
Speaker 3: back to you know, my my regular you know mental state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Aji, I want to ask you about this
Speaker 2: because I think this is such a key part of
Speaker 2: success when you talk about baseball and it's this, it's
Speaker 2: this ability to really focus in in the moment, right.
Speaker 2: And you know, we all have different pressures. I think
Speaker 2: youth and high school players are dealing with even college
Speaker 2: more pressure now than ever before. Everything's on video, right,
Speaker 2: everything's on social media all the time. So I want
Speaker 2: to I want to go back to that moment because
Speaker 2: I think there's so much to learn in that. Can
Speaker 2: you take us through from a from a pressure standpoint,
Speaker 2: in a moment standpoint, how you stayed so calm and
Speaker 2: within yourself and relax to go do the task at
Speaker 2: hand without letting that moment get a hold of you
Speaker 2: and trying to do too much or trying to press
Speaker 2: in that at bat. I mean, what was that like?
Speaker 2: And what is your advice to youngsters out there that
Speaker 2: are watching that remember this home run and think about
Speaker 2: that moment. What can you tell them about handling pressure?
Speaker 3: Well, pressure is it is actually a sign. It reveals
Speaker 3: what you have prepared for. It reveals who you really are.
Speaker 3: That's what pressure does. If you put the work in
Speaker 3: pressure reveals that you with the work in see. The
Speaker 3: moment did not surprise me. I was ready for the moment.
Speaker 3: So when the moment came, I recognized, this is it.
Speaker 3: This is what I've been prepared for. So I went
Speaker 3: through the pressure beforehand. I saw the guys on base,
Speaker 3: I saw that ahead of time. So when I got there,
Speaker 3: I said, oh, this is it. And so when I
Speaker 3: look back in order for me to get into the present, right,
Speaker 3: that's where the breath comes in. Right. That's one thing
Speaker 3: that sometimes you don't see the kids do. Right. Some
Speaker 3: kids do it. They'll take a deep breath right now.
Speaker 3: That just brings them back into reality. That brings them
Speaker 3: back to here and now. And for me, that was
Speaker 3: calming myself down. You want to be a calm, dangerous hitter, right,
Speaker 3: And I think when I have noticed just just paying
Speaker 3: attention to myself is what makes me most dangerous. It's
Speaker 3: when I'm calm. If my mind is racing, if I'm
Speaker 3: thinking too many thoughts, if I have two three things
Speaker 3: I want to do at the play, that is not
Speaker 3: a win win for me. But here's another thing. Here's
Speaker 3: part of the preparation. Knowing what the picture is going
Speaker 3: to do. I knew exactly what he wanted to do.
Speaker 3: This is my third to bat against him. He had
Speaker 3: thrown fastball, at the fastball, at the fastball my first
Speaker 3: at bat in that World Series, three pitches, three fastballs, strikeout.
Speaker 3: My second at bat, six fastballs. One hit down the
Speaker 3: first base line that rizzodove he caught but he didn't cover.
Speaker 3: That was a base hit. Now I'm going in with
Speaker 3: the confidence that I can get a hit at least
Speaker 3: because I know I've already done. And I hit that
Speaker 3: ball hard. I thought it was a double off my
Speaker 3: bat leg because I was down in away. I was like,
Speaker 3: that's it. And for me, that's all I needed. I
Speaker 3: needed that confidence that the fact that I hit that
Speaker 3: ball hard, it helped to build more confidence in me.
Speaker 3: So building confidence is part of the process when you
Speaker 3: stick with the problem. I know that what he's throwing, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to battle. Now when I go up to
Speaker 3: the plate, it's me versus you. It's not one verse nine,
Speaker 3: it's one verse one. It's like basketball. For me, I'm
Speaker 3: not playing against nine players. I'm playing against one. Picture Now,
Speaker 3: if he got e O. The goons out there, they're
Speaker 3: trying to steal my ball. It's fine, it's okay. I'm
Speaker 3: okay with that. But as long as I get you, I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to get you. That's great, Roger, that's great. So
Speaker 1: be prepared, be in the moment, have great confidence, and
Speaker 1: make sure Anthony Rizzo is not playing first pace. I
Speaker 1: guess we have good questions. He want to remind everybody
Speaker 1: that they could ask questions in the YouTube chat and
Speaker 1: please we're looking for more and more members here at
Speaker 1: the parent dugout dot com. All right here, it is Raj.
Speaker 1: This is wild. It says if every baseball parent watching
Speaker 1: tonight could hear one piece of advice from you, and
Speaker 1: you've already shared a bunch of them, but think about it,
Speaker 1: if you could share one piece of advice from you
Speaker 1: to the parents, what would it be.
Speaker 3: Well to the parents. It is huge for parents because
Speaker 3: a lot of parents think results, results, results, results, and
Speaker 3: it's never really about the results because results fluctuate. Sometimes
Speaker 3: you get a hit and sometimes you don't. Sometimes you
Speaker 3: make the play and sometimes you won't. So you cannot
Speaker 3: rely on setting your kid's identity, and the parent sets
Speaker 3: the identity. The parent says, hey, you are this player,
Speaker 3: or you're you're the guy who gets hit or you're
Speaker 3: the guy who doesn't make errors, but you're going to
Speaker 3: make mistakes going to to get out. But one thing
Speaker 3: for the parents is, you know, try to focus on
Speaker 3: what process will lead to the result that you're looking for.
Speaker 3: And if we focus on the process, the process always
Speaker 3: leads to the results, and the result never leads to
Speaker 3: the process.
Speaker 2: I love that, man, that's so good. Yeah, I want
Speaker 2: to I want to touch on that, Raj, because I
Speaker 2: think this is another lesson just from a scouting background
Speaker 2: that I have and doing some things with players. It
Speaker 2: really starts pregame. So when you talk about evaluating anyone
Speaker 2: that is within baseball, that's truly evaluating A player watches
Speaker 2: the routine, right, they're watching what they're doing. They're watching
Speaker 2: the pregame stuff with the breath work or just getting
Speaker 2: loose the flexibility, and then how they play catch. There's
Speaker 2: those little things, Raja. Can you just talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about that, Raj with I mean, you played for
Speaker 2: teen years in the big leagues and you know sometimes
Speaker 2: that can be a little boring if you will of
Speaker 2: like the same things every day. Can you talk about
Speaker 2: the importance of of pregame routine and how that impacted
Speaker 2: you for the moment. Eventually down the road.
Speaker 3: Well, the pregame routine just let your body know now
Speaker 3: it's time to compete. Yeah, and let your body know
Speaker 3: it's time to play a game. Right, that's the purpose.
Speaker 3: I believe that you do these things because all of
Speaker 3: this is prepper preparing you to play a game. That
Speaker 3: guess what you're trying to win, right? And I think
Speaker 3: the more consistent that you can be on your routine,
Speaker 3: on being consistent on what you do on a daily basis,
Speaker 3: the more consistent you can be in your performance and
Speaker 3: getting the results that you really want. Because what those preparation,
Speaker 3: those things, those routines do is they remind you of
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do even when the pressure is on.
Speaker 3: And if you can do it when the pressure is off,
Speaker 3: you can do it when the pressure is on. But
Speaker 3: I think when what guys mess up is they changing
Speaker 3: all the time. If something's not working, they change. If
Speaker 3: this is not clicking, they change. And now they're instable.
Speaker 3: They're not even stable in what they're doing. And so
Speaker 3: something that might have worked now they don't know what's working. Right,
Speaker 3: So it's important especially if you have a routine that's working,
Speaker 3: because for me, that is a formula for success. If
Speaker 3: it's working, if one plus one equals to every time,
Speaker 3: why would I change it?
Speaker 1: I think I think that you know, if you tie
Speaker 1: it all together, the foundation is ultimately what leads to it.
Speaker 1: You're just in a sport where you know, success, as
Speaker 1: you say, is fleeting, and it's a game of failure.
Speaker 1: So sometimes I would imagine you look in the rearview
Speaker 1: mirror and wonder, well, is the process or the foundation
Speaker 1: working when I'm in a three for thirty slump? Do
Speaker 1: I stick with that? And I think it leads into
Speaker 1: the next question that we have from one of our
Speaker 1: members here, Ryan, Because you were not necessarily an everyday
Speaker 1: player through a very long career. So when you weren't
Speaker 1: playing every day, Ryan asked, how did you stay mentally
Speaker 1: ready for the moment when your number was called? And
Speaker 1: then part two of that question is did your routine
Speaker 1: change on the days that you knew you were starting
Speaker 1: versus the days you knew you were coming off the bench?
Speaker 3: You know, here's a famous quote, right, if you stay ready,
Speaker 3: you never have to get ready. Right, So Ji, by.
Speaker 1: The way, you should have a T shirt with all
Speaker 1: your sayings on it.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm actually I'm actually finishing up a book
Speaker 3: that I'm writing about mental coaching and coaching for parents,
Speaker 3: you know, because I see the importance in coaching my
Speaker 3: son's team. And you know, last night we had a
Speaker 3: just crazy not to get off the subject, but it
Speaker 3: was crazy. Our starting pitcher gives up six, six runs,
Speaker 3: right and you know, I go out there and I
Speaker 3: talked to him. I said, have you been doing the
Speaker 3: routine that we talked about, the the the entire routine.
Speaker 3: He says to me, Now, well, well, guess what we're
Speaker 3: gonna do. We're gonna go back to zero zero. We're
Speaker 3: gonna pretend it's a zero zero game. We're gonna give
Speaker 3: back to your routine. Your routine is what take a
Speaker 3: deep breath right then you're gonna tell yourself exactly what
Speaker 3: you're gonna throw. You're gonna throw a low fastball right here, okay,
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna do it. That is, he goes one, two, three, strikeout.
Speaker 3: Then he gets he proceeds to get give up no
Speaker 3: more runs and strikes out five other guys. You know,
Speaker 3: so it's like, you know, just sticking over Auteae. So
Speaker 3: for me, especially when I was not starting, I would
Speaker 3: act like a starter because in my mind my identity
Speaker 3: was I'm a starter, So I'm gonna act like who
Speaker 3: I believe I am. So I'm doing things that guess
Speaker 3: what the guys on the bench are not doing. But
Speaker 3: guess what when I get in the game, I'm ready
Speaker 3: because I've been working on stealing my basis because whatever
Speaker 3: you stop doing, you lose. You'll lose it if you
Speaker 3: stop using it.
Speaker 2: Love that man and Roger. I think when you're hitting
Speaker 2: on all this stuff, as we think about the people listening,
Speaker 2: the members and anyone listening and watching tonight, we always
Speaker 2: want to think about the You know, when we talk
Speaker 2: about baseball, we talk about the greater good of baseball, right,
Speaker 2: and what we're kind of trying to accomplish on the field,
Speaker 2: and you're hitting on a little bit. There's so much
Speaker 2: to learn in the sport with overcoming adversity, right, and
Speaker 2: being able to control your emotions and control your mind
Speaker 2: and being able to work through really difficult things. Baseball
Speaker 2: is really challenging. You can have one grade inning, you
Speaker 2: can have one grade at bat. The next at bat
Speaker 2: is terrible, and this is the roller coaster of baseball.
Speaker 2: But I want to get to the next question because
Speaker 2: I think it's really kind of pertains to what I'm
Speaker 2: getting at here. So we go to the next question here,
Speaker 2: So it's kind of talking about the performance in game,
Speaker 2: and here we go. So, Rajah, you were fast. People
Speaker 2: think stealing base is all about speed, but how much
Speaker 2: of it is actually preparation and studying pitchers And this
Speaker 2: is the in game feel that I'm kind of going
Speaker 2: at with youth and high school players now in understanding
Speaker 2: how the game works, can you just share a little
Speaker 2: bit more about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stealing bases is more of an art because you
Speaker 3: get into pro ball. There's a lot of guys who
Speaker 3: are fast. But not everybody can steal bases right. Not
Speaker 3: everybody has put the work in. Not everybody knows their strength.
Speaker 3: I knew exactly how much time it took me to
Speaker 3: get from where I was starting to the next base.
Speaker 3: I knew exactly what the picture's times was. I knew
Speaker 3: what the catcher's times was, so I was prepared, and
Speaker 3: then I studied the picture while I was out there.
Speaker 3: Every time I got out there, the picture seemed to
Speaker 3: change they don't change. Then I could. I couldn't watch
Speaker 3: video on the same picture because every time I got
Speaker 3: out there, they're quicker, they're faster, they were slidestepping. But
Speaker 3: guess what, there was one time where they're going to
Speaker 3: pick up their leg because they just went two oh,
Speaker 3: they went three to oh. Now I was able to
Speaker 3: recognize opportunities. They knew I was stealing, but they didn't
Speaker 3: know what pitch I was stealing on. So I started
Speaker 3: reading body language. Body language was huge. And here's the thing.
Speaker 3: No one can hide their body language. It is almost
Speaker 3: impossible to hide the body if you know what you're
Speaker 3: looking for. I remember talking with Vince Coleman, and he
Speaker 3: knew exactly when guys were going to the plate and
Speaker 3: when they were coming over. If you know that and
Speaker 3: you're a fast guy, that no one can stop you.
Speaker 3: That's how you get one hundred stolen bases in a season.
Speaker 1: And can can anybody learn that? You talk about? You know,
Speaker 1: reading body language? Is that something anybody can learn?
Speaker 3: I believe it is. I mean, Vince Coman learned it
Speaker 3: in the minor league because they were teaching him. This
Speaker 3: is when he learned it, right, that's and that's the problem.
Speaker 3: They're not teaching this anymore. Those guys, those kind of
Speaker 3: guys are not around right and and and and trying
Speaker 3: to get those guys back. It's a challenge because of analytics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a I mean I sit next to
Speaker 1: a guy who was great at it, EDWARDO. Perez learned
Speaker 1: at the heels of Pete Rose and obviously his dad.
Speaker 1: But those guys knew how to read body language as
Speaker 1: well as anybody. And uh, yeah, it's something that everybody
Speaker 1: can here's one for you because this is about your
Speaker 1: baseball journey. It comes from work matic. Any favorite Southeast
Speaker 1: Connecticut baseball memories? Go Huskies, of course.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have a bunch. Where do you want
Speaker 3: to start? I mean, I'd like to always go back
Speaker 3: to Little League.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love that Little League.
Speaker 3: Championship Will of Manny, Connecticut. Okay, we're We're in the
Speaker 3: championship game. Okay, it's it's tie ball game. It's the
Speaker 3: sixth inning, the last inning. I come up to bat
Speaker 3: as a twelve year old, Okay, I go on to
Speaker 3: hit a triple, a leadoff triple, right, no outs, I'm
Speaker 3: on third. Now I can steal bases at will Okay.
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna give my team. Okay, I'm gonna give
Speaker 3: them a shot to win the game. If you hit
Speaker 3: the if you hit the ball on the outfield, we win.
Speaker 3: If you hit the ball on the ground, we win.
Speaker 3: They will one guy to hit another guy. So then
Speaker 3: the next guy comes up, he strikes out. Now we
Speaker 3: got one out, and I'm like, okay, we're not gonna
Speaker 3: lose this game. Boys, Okay, I'm gonna take this into
Speaker 3: my own hands. Okay. So when the catcher throws it
Speaker 3: back and it happens a couple of times, the catcher
Speaker 3: throws it back to the I go, I go, I
Speaker 3: go to stay home, and you know, nothing happens. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: so I go back to third base again. The hetcher
Speaker 3: loves it back to the picture and I dit for home.
Speaker 3: Boom boom, I steal home. We win the championship, and
Speaker 3: not just running the dugout like nothing ever happened, but
Speaker 3: we just won the championship walk off style on a
Speaker 3: stolen base.
Speaker 1: In little right, I love that Little Little league stories
Speaker 1: are great and it's good to hear. You know that
Speaker 1: you started in little league and you went through the process,
Speaker 1: but you didn't go to a Power four or Power
Speaker 1: five school, right, You were at every point in Connecticut,
Speaker 1: which is a unique part of your journey.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the most important part was I was
Speaker 3: still developing, and I was going to a coach who
Speaker 3: was going to develop me as a player to get
Speaker 3: to the next level. He had several guys that were
Speaker 3: getting drafted out of that level. There was every year
Speaker 3: there was a guy being drafted out of every point
Speaker 3: leading up to the year I got there, and then
Speaker 3: after the years after I left, and so every year
Speaker 3: the scouts were around. And so if you just show up,
Speaker 3: you never know what can happen when the scout sees you,
Speaker 3: because if you have the skills and the talent and
Speaker 3: the gifts or the tools that they're looking for and
Speaker 3: you perform, man, anything can happen. And I always kept
Speaker 3: that in the back of my mind. They were coming
Speaker 3: for one guy, but they saw me.
Speaker 2: I love it, Rajah, I want to I want to
Speaker 2: actually bring the next questionnaire from dom actually in regards
Speaker 2: to two coaches. So you were bringing up the development
Speaker 2: and the coaches there. What made certain coaches earn your
Speaker 2: trust in immediately? What what were some of the things
Speaker 2: that you did to to earn that trust as a coach, or.
Speaker 1: Or how did you sort of instill you know, the
Speaker 1: trust in you, like, what do you do as a player.
Speaker 1: What are these kids bringing to the team where the
Speaker 1: coach can say, I trust that guy, He's not going
Speaker 1: to hurt me big situation, any situation.
Speaker 3: I think I think, you know, just the consistency. You know,
Speaker 3: if if, if, if a player is consistent at what
Speaker 3: he is doing right, you know, you know who's showing
Speaker 3: up right one day there you know they're up here,
Speaker 3: the next day they're down here and next day there
Speaker 3: you know, Hey, can we just have the same guy
Speaker 3: that that hit went went four for four the other day?
Speaker 3: Can we bring him back? I just want him just
Speaker 3: come back and be the same guy every day.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and I think to the other part
Speaker 1: of that, having just come from the College World Series,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure I know Justin speaks to every major
Speaker 1: college coach in the country, what they also want are
Speaker 1: consistent people, meaning you know, don't show up to the
Speaker 1: ballpark way up here one day and then way down
Speaker 1: here the next. And look, we are people. We have
Speaker 1: good days and bad days. But I do think that
Speaker 1: one of the common threads that we heard in Omaha,
Speaker 1: where this dude is he is the same every day
Speaker 1: no matter if the result. You know, he's processed, driven,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't get too high or too low.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think that is huge. That is huge
Speaker 3: just knowing because I was a high energy guy. So
Speaker 3: but you got you got that every day though you
Speaker 3: know you I was. I was that guy. You know
Speaker 3: you gonna get him every day, right, And and it's
Speaker 3: it's the guys where you're like, okay, do I have
Speaker 3: to do have to be careful because you know, it's
Speaker 3: like walking on eggshells around this guy, like like I
Speaker 3: don't know what's gonna happen, what who's gonna show up,
Speaker 3: or what's gonna happen with this guy. That's that's the
Speaker 3: time where you know, if if guy's got to be careful,
Speaker 3: you know, around you because what you're saying or what
Speaker 3: you might say or you know, what you might do
Speaker 3: is is that's a sign you know maybe maybe maybe
Speaker 3: maybe you might not be able to see it because
Speaker 3: usually the one who has the issue is usually the
Speaker 3: last one that that that knows about it.
Speaker 1: Here's one for you because obviously with these Uh, you know, parents,
Speaker 1: they have kids that play on a variety of teams,
Speaker 1: et cetera. You've got to learn to be part of
Speaker 1: the fabric as opposed to one you know that stands out.
Speaker 1: So Ryan says, in your case, RaSE at any level,
Speaker 1: most underrated teammate you ever played with, and the name
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily important, but what made that teammate so valuable?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Tory Hunter for two thousand.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Tory Hunter. I remember watching him really school
Speaker 3: Robbie Ray. Right, So Robbie Ray. Uh, he was a rookie.
Speaker 3: He was coming up with us, and he had given it.
Speaker 3: He was giving up home runs and they were going
Speaker 3: in this upper deck in at at target Field, and
Speaker 3: and and it seemed like many they knew what he
Speaker 3: was doing before he was throwing it. And so Tory
Speaker 3: Tory system down. And I'm watching, just watching. I did
Speaker 3: a lot of watching those days.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And Toy says, hey, man, I know what you're throwing
Speaker 3: before you throw it. I said, if Toy was doing
Speaker 3: they probably know too. So he so he was schooling
Speaker 3: him on on the fact that guess what, at this level,
Speaker 3: they watching you, and they watching you very closely. So
Speaker 3: if you if you start doing something that's consistent with
Speaker 3: that fastball every time and they know it, they don't,
Speaker 3: they don't, they gonna keep their eyes on them, they go.
Speaker 3: They gonna know what's coming and they're gonna hit it.
Speaker 3: When big leaguers know what's coming, boy, you better watch out.
Speaker 1: That's a great Justin. Justin's a huge Tory Hunter fan anyway,
Speaker 1: being from that area. So you nail that one. You
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Speaker 2: Hey, I mean when you talk about all the stuff
Speaker 2: going on right now, revi a lot of I mean,
Speaker 2: we're hitting the All Star break in baseball and then
Speaker 2: it's you know how it is, man, it's the chase
Speaker 2: down in the end. So a great time to hit
Speaker 2: some games here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Raji Davis is he is a book and his advice
Speaker 1: has been phenomenal. The questions in the YouTube chat have
Speaker 1: been phenomenal. We greatly appreciate that and early that's what
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Speaker 1: questions here raj. We we've talked about being teammates, We've
Speaker 1: talked about stealing bases. Next question here comes from Royce.
Speaker 1: When the game was on the line, what did you
Speaker 1: tell yourself before stepping into the box. It feels like
Speaker 1: you had a mantra. I mean, you had a message
Speaker 1: that you would repeat because you're kind of the guy
Speaker 1: that has shown us I have these triggers, I have
Speaker 1: these words, these sayings. What did you tell yourself?
Speaker 3: I think, for the for the most part, when I
Speaker 3: was at my best, you know, I would remind myself
Speaker 3: of who I was and who I was. I'm the best,
Speaker 3: I'm the best thing out here, right, And I think
Speaker 3: you got to constantly remind yourself because the game is
Speaker 3: a game of failure. It's a game of you know,
Speaker 3: you you get out seven out of ten times in
Speaker 3: the Major League at the highest level, and they considered
Speaker 3: you a Hall of Famer, right, And so it's there's
Speaker 3: constant negativity. There's constant things, external things that are coming
Speaker 3: at you, and you know that would change from time
Speaker 3: to time. But just reminded myself, I am dominant. I
Speaker 3: am the dominator. I called myself the dominator. I would
Speaker 3: go out there and ay, I'm expecting to dominate because
Speaker 3: I am the dominator.
Speaker 2: Hey, Roger, you're kind of hitting on something from a
Speaker 2: few years ago. I don't know if you remember this,
Speaker 2: but you know, you talk about your mental performance stuff.
Speaker 2: But McCutchen was on the bases after home runs and
Speaker 2: he was miked up and Rabi you might remember this,
Speaker 2: but he was talking to himself the whole time and
Speaker 2: he would say, Hey, I'm the best. That's what I
Speaker 2: do this, I'm the best. And there he had to
Speaker 2: actually respond later because he wasn't actually talking at the
Speaker 2: other players. He was talking to himself. He was telling
Speaker 2: himself what he was right. And that's kind of going
Speaker 2: to what you're saying is like, you have to believe
Speaker 2: in yourself. Man, Can you just touch on that a
Speaker 2: little bit more, because obviously there's a lot of great
Speaker 2: players in Major League Baseball. Youth players can step on
Speaker 2: a field and there might be some great players. High
Speaker 2: school players can do the same playing at club tournaments
Speaker 2: or whatever. How do you stay in that zone to
Speaker 2: where you really believe you're the best.
Speaker 3: Well, it's honestly, because I was always a guy who
Speaker 3: would ask a lot of questions. I was like, if
Speaker 3: a guy has a really good year, I'd ask him, Man, hey, man,
Speaker 3: what are you saying up there?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What is it? I remember playing with a shortstop mister Jose.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna batch up his name, but he wrote
Speaker 3: a song. But anyways, I remember I remember him saying, man,
Speaker 3: because he made the All Star team. I said, Man,
Speaker 3: when you get out there, man and you're up in
Speaker 3: that possible, what do you say? He said? Man, I say,
Speaker 3: I'm the best you know. And and and after studying
Speaker 3: it and getting into space and really working, and I
Speaker 3: learned that you know, the reason why you do this
Speaker 3: is because we actually performed from like the results. We
Speaker 3: pro perform from an identity, right, And you get the
Speaker 3: best results when you when you have a stable identity.
Speaker 3: If I'm the guy who gets hits and I don't
Speaker 3: get hits, then I'm gonna be down. If I'm the
Speaker 3: guy who hits home runs and I don't hit hard,
Speaker 3: I'm going to be down. If I'm the guy who
Speaker 3: hits home runs and I start hitting home runs and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they stop, I'm gonna be down. Right.
Speaker 3: So those are unstable. But something I can say is
Speaker 3: I am the dominant, I am the best. That's something
Speaker 3: that I want to perform from because that's something I'm becoming, right,
Speaker 3: It's what I'm becoming. And so I've learned that guess
Speaker 3: what if I perform from an identity, I can have
Speaker 3: more consistency and more consistent results that I'm looking to have. Right,
Speaker 3: And I'm telling myself, oh, this is this is the
Speaker 3: end product to be the best, right, and so what
Speaker 3: does that look like? Okay for me? And and you know,
Speaker 3: the more I say it, the more I would start
Speaker 3: to believe it. I learned that, like just by doing
Speaker 3: it right, the more I said it the more. And
Speaker 3: I realized that my belief was very, very powerful. My
Speaker 3: words were powerful, but my belief in the words that
Speaker 3: I was saying was even more powerful.
Speaker 1: And we watching Stuart Smally on Shaturday Night Live looking
Speaker 1: into the mirror wasn't Jose. It wasn't Jose because he
Speaker 1: and I did as sports.
Speaker 2: There you go, yeah, yeah, there you go. We helped
Speaker 2: you out. We had a member to help you out here,
Speaker 2: buddy uh Man. I was going way back on that one. No,
Speaker 2: this is this is so good. I feel like there's
Speaker 2: some really important questions here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we got to get to this.
Speaker 2: One man go to order at Crown Pizza and Waterford, Connecticut.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'd have to go with the taco pizza.
Speaker 3: We used to used to always get that taco pizza.
Speaker 1: What is what is on a taco pizza?
Speaker 3: So they would they would it's been a what since
Speaker 3: I've had but they would get the meat right, they
Speaker 3: melt the cheese on there, and then on top of
Speaker 3: that they would put lettuce, tomatoes and crunchy chips. Yeah okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: so it would come out awesome, It really would.
Speaker 2: You never had a taco pizza.
Speaker 1: No, see again, I just goes back to, uh, the
Speaker 1: concept that was brought up by one of the North
Speaker 1: Carolina players, Owen Hull, who is sort of a renaissance man.
Speaker 1: When we're in Omaha. You know what, Owen Hull really
Speaker 1: likes vanilla ice cream. You know what I agree with?
Speaker 1: Like vanilla ice cream still works. We ruined so many
Speaker 1: things like what's wrong with plane waffles? We're playing pancakes.
Speaker 1: We throw all this noise on there. Kurt Schilling sat
Speaker 1: with us in a green room one night and he
Speaker 1: railed against pineapple on top of pizza. So the idea
Speaker 1: that we're throwing taco pizza out tonight. I'm not necessarily
Speaker 1: sure I'm one hundred percent on board with it, but
Speaker 1: if it works for Raj, more taco, I'm with you, Raj.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, man. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Man, All right, Raj, let's continue here. The questions are
Speaker 1: great tonight, and you've you've given so many good answers.
Speaker 1: I think it leads to more and more questions. Here's one.
Speaker 1: You go back and give your fifteen year old self
Speaker 1: one piece of baseball advice. So you don't know it yet,
Speaker 1: but if you could go back and talk to your
Speaker 1: sixteen year old self, what would the advice be.
Speaker 3: If I'm sixteen, I'm in high school, right, I am
Speaker 3: a I want to say, I'm a sophomore going into
Speaker 3: sophomore junior year. Right, I'm not that big. In fact,
Speaker 3: I'm one of the smallest ones on my team. Right.
Speaker 3: But the one thing is I have a belief, right,
Speaker 3: and so I don't know if I would change anything,
Speaker 3: because when I was fourteen, I wrote I wrote a
Speaker 3: note of where I would be in ten years, and
Speaker 3: so now I'm in the process of that ten year product.
Speaker 3: Right when I was fourteen, fourteen or fifteen, I had
Speaker 3: wrote that in ten years I will be in the
Speaker 3: major leagues, right, and so now I'm walking through that process. Okay,
Speaker 3: at sixteen years old and when I turned twenty five,
Speaker 3: I made it to the major leagues.
Speaker 2: Oh crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense like that, that's illogical, right, doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: It's just great advice for parents and kids at home,
Speaker 1: and you know, junior college, whatever the route may be,
Speaker 1: it is amazing justin you know this better than that anybody,
Speaker 1: especially seeing these teams in Omaha and the way that
Speaker 1: Oklahoma was built. I mean I think they thirteen junior
Speaker 1: college players on there. You know, that's where they started
Speaker 1: and that's how they ended up winning a College World
Speaker 1: Series national championship. All right, Rose, I get about fifteen
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen minutes left here. One of the things
Speaker 1: we do on this program each week is we kind
Speaker 1: of throw the kitchen sink at you. So these questions
Speaker 1: are not necessarily baseball related, but it allows the people
Speaker 1: at home to be able to get to know RAJ
Speaker 1: Davis a little bit better. So let's bring up the
Speaker 1: kitchen sink questions. Favorite coach that you ever had any
Speaker 1: sport of all time.
Speaker 3: Roger Midwell, why well, yeah, well, other than the fact
Speaker 3: he won a thousand games, he was he was really
Speaker 3: a stepping stone to professional baseball for me. He was.
Speaker 3: He was. I mean, I had a lot of good coaches, right,
Speaker 3: mind you, but I believe with with without him, and
Speaker 3: we're friends to this day. Without him. It was it
Speaker 3: was a huge bridge because there's a conversation that we
Speaker 3: had in the very middle of the year. I was
Speaker 3: hitting like two twenty maybe less, and I wasn't playing
Speaker 3: up to my potential. But he could see the potential
Speaker 3: in me, and he set me down in his office.
Speaker 3: He said, Raj, there's some things we gotta change. We
Speaker 3: gotta change this frigh. Okay, this is not gonna work. Okay,
Speaker 3: you can't keep doing his rash Okay. I need him
Speaker 3: more responsible, okay, And so he goes into this hole spiel.
Speaker 3: I go on to hit three fifty seven that year
Speaker 3: as a freshman at three year college. After that conversation.
Speaker 3: That's where I finished, and he ended up getting me
Speaker 3: into because of that, finished into playing Wooden Bet League,
Speaker 3: where I hit three hundred coming off the bench, and
Speaker 3: you know, the rest is kind of history. The next year,
Speaker 3: you know, hit four hundred and that drafted.
Speaker 2: So good man, so good. Let's go to the second
Speaker 2: one least favorite class in high school.
Speaker 3: Oh geez, probably music.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: Hey, we got a lot of common raj.
Speaker 1: I once got a D and guitar class. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: never understood it. I couldn't get the strings. I didn't
Speaker 1: understand any of it, all right, So I was terrible,
Speaker 1: mister Nardi. Sorry, what was your what was your walk
Speaker 1: up song or what would it be today?
Speaker 3: My walk up song was Jesus by Kurt Franklin. It
Speaker 3: was it was it was talking about a superstar, because
Speaker 3: that's what really hit me. It was because I felt
Speaker 3: like every time I heard superstar, that's me, that's me.
Speaker 2: Awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: I like that a lot.
Speaker 2: Let's let's finish it out here with this one. So
Speaker 2: what are you afraid of? What are something? Let's give
Speaker 2: us something that you you don't like or you're scared of.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm afraid of, like close quarters Like okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I don't like close quarters. Man.
Speaker 2: You can handle flying, all right, you know.
Speaker 3: I I over I overcome my fears right, So I do.
Speaker 3: I do my breathing like, I will breathe through it,
Speaker 3: right if it comes, Yeah, you know, I will breathe
Speaker 3: through it and then think about a better place.
Speaker 1: I love it, man, Raj So elevators, like even at
Speaker 1: the spring training facility, if there's two floors and you
Speaker 1: get I think we're all dead. We're never getting off this.
Speaker 1: I can't stand being an elevator. I'm walking. I'm walking
Speaker 1: seven floors off. No elevators.
Speaker 3: I saw.
Speaker 1: If I go with you and you're doing this, I'm
Speaker 1: getting off something bad.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to close my eyes and I'll do it
Speaker 3: a little slower.
Speaker 1: Just open the door, just pray, doors open up, all right,
Speaker 1: justin good MVP with Roger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Raji, we asked everybody on the show man,
Speaker 2: what's you know if you look back and you look
Speaker 2: at your baseball career, who is your most valuable person?
Speaker 2: Who is the MVP in your life on your journey?
Speaker 3: My dad, my dad, He's not my biological dad, but
Speaker 3: he was my He was my dad that really gave
Speaker 3: me the blueprint, the blueprint of how to make it.
Speaker 3: And of course you know he went ninety six and
Speaker 3: oh as a boxer in the Navy, boxing three times
Speaker 3: a week. I mean he would knock at everything living
Speaker 3: on that gym. He was knocking it out. If he
Speaker 3: hits you all, he's looking around seeing what happened, I'll
Speaker 3: just say, how'd you keep standing? But he was. He
Speaker 3: was doing ten miles a day before breakfast, ten miles
Speaker 3: after breakfast. Then he's going eight hours in the gym.
Speaker 3: So I got to see, like what that sounds like,
Speaker 3: what that looks like? The discipline. You know, I wasn't
Speaker 3: willing to do all that, but you know I got
Speaker 3: to see it at least be exposed to it.
Speaker 1: That's really cool. That's really cool. Hey, one last one
Speaker 1: kind of another one off the beaten path, because I
Speaker 1: in listening to you, I hear a lot of different
Speaker 1: people in you, and I'm curious, as somebody that has
Speaker 1: been on ESPN RAJ for a long time, oftentimes you're
Speaker 1: walking down the street or through an airport and somebody
Speaker 1: would say, Hey Rhys Davis or Hey Steve Levy, who
Speaker 1: do you get mistaken for? Most?
Speaker 3: You know what, it was crazy? You just said that
Speaker 3: the last few times has been King Griffrey tuning, Hey
Speaker 3: King Griffy, what.
Speaker 2: That's a good one though, man get that twenty four Jersey, Raj.
Speaker 1: Raji man, I can't thank you enough for stepping up
Speaker 1: here and doing this. You were exactly what the Parent
Speaker 1: Dugout is all about, and certainly a dirt from the Dugout.
Speaker 1: The comments from the people at home our members have
Speaker 1: been outstanding. In fact, the last one said, you know,
Speaker 1: the content is filling a void. Keep at it. So
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being such a superstar guest tonight.
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, thanks for rajer I take care buddy.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for having
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