Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two on this Thursday. Come on in,
Speaker 1: stay a while, spend a lot of time talking about
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior and also the status of Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and the Green Bay Packers. I think we have a
Speaker 1: poll question for our two mclovin. Our one was who
Speaker 1: is the most confusing quarterback in the NFL? Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: is running away with it? All right, do you want
Speaker 1: to change the poll question? Yeah, let's get really mean.
Speaker 1: Who is the most overcovered player in the NFL? We
Speaker 1: could go with. I also like the question we raised
Speaker 1: it first hour. Okay, but wait a minute, who are
Speaker 1: the players? Well, Odell Beckham Junior, he's just such strong candidate,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott. Actually we got a tweet saying
Speaker 1: he was overcovered in the off seat. Tom Brady's got
Speaker 1: to be in there overcovered. Yes, it's the greatest all time.
Speaker 1: Is he properly covered? Well? You know, he is in
Speaker 1: the news a lot these days. You're right, He's been
Speaker 1: in the news and hasn't just been for his play
Speaker 1: on the field. You know, what's the last thing he
Speaker 1: was in the news for? It that we went. Uh.
Speaker 1: He called out the defense. He said defenses were like uh,
Speaker 1: dogs chasing cars. Um. What he did with the uh
Speaker 1: the cancer patient in the stands was well covered. Um.
Speaker 1: His social is always fine. I mean it's not bad stuff.
Speaker 1: But he's really like a lot of attention. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but he is the goat's but he exactly like a
Speaker 1: lot of this is it's warranted because it's Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: You know. Odell Beckham is getting a lot of attention,
Speaker 1: has got a lot, gotten a lot of attention, but
Speaker 1: it's not warranted now. It is because he's basically saying,
Speaker 1: get me a quarterback who can play, get me out
Speaker 1: of here. Yeah. I hate to do this, but I
Speaker 1: would throw Sequon Barkley on there. He has covered, he
Speaker 1: has talked about. They always discussed whether he's ready to
Speaker 1: play or not ready to play. If you live anywhere
Speaker 1: in New York, New York, the giants are always like
Speaker 1: is he playing this weekend? And he's a good guy,
Speaker 1: he was a star. He is not a relevant NFL
Speaker 1: player right now and he gets covered like he is.
Speaker 1: I would say Baker Mayfield is the most overcovered player
Speaker 1: because if you throw in the commercials, um, it just
Speaker 1: feels like he's a lightning rod. Yeah, he might be.
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. He gets a lot of coverage and that
Speaker 1: team stinks. Like we talk about the Bears a lot,
Speaker 1: and they're they're terrible. Uh well, Paulie talks about the
Speaker 1: Bears a lot by proxy the show does then, but
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of coverage and he's not any good.
Speaker 1: I don't prop up the Bears and make them seem
Speaker 1: better than they are, though I'm bash him worse than anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm aware of that what they're gonna be. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: there was so much dialogue about the Bears gotta go
Speaker 1: to Justin Fields, and I was like, okay, so you're
Speaker 1: gonna put him in there with a bad team as
Speaker 1: opposed to you know who, Andy Dalton like it. He
Speaker 1: would give you a highlights they're not They're not a
Speaker 1: good team. Yeah. Poling last year in Draft Night, I
Speaker 1: said the Bear should not be allowed from the NFL
Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback. They should play quarterback list because
Speaker 1: what I could do to any quarterbacks. Yeah see, but
Speaker 1: we're not the only show, Like every single national show
Speaker 1: in the country is covering the quarterback situation at Chicago. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I try to point out that, you know, don't
Speaker 1: expect much out of justin Fields. It's not a good team.
Speaker 1: They don't have weapons, they don't have a good offensive line,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna throw him in there and say, all right,
Speaker 1: hey makes some magic. Well he's in the same situation
Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence is and maybe Zach Wilson. Yeah mcgluv.
Speaker 1: It's funny. San Francisco doesn't get quite the same attention
Speaker 1: with the Trey Lance Jimmy g it's a justin field
Speaker 1: as this summer was all justin Field. Yeah, but you're
Speaker 1: talking about media markets. I mean you're talking about in
Speaker 1: New York and you're talking about Chicago talking about their quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You know, Jacksonville because of Urban Meyer. If Urban wasn't there,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't cover Trevor Lawrence as much because you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's waiting to see if Urban Meyer can be an
Speaker 1: NFL coach, and then by proxy, you start looking at
Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence is doing or not doing. Zach Wilson's
Speaker 1: in a media market the biggest in the in the country,
Speaker 1: and you're with the Jets, you know, always a little
Speaker 1: brother to the Giants, and you keep waiting. Are they
Speaker 1: going to find their quarterback? And even now we don't
Speaker 1: know if they found their quarterback. Mike White might be
Speaker 1: their quarterback. Jets and the Colts coming up tonight eight
Speaker 1: seven seven, three d P show email address DP at
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick dot com. Are we gonna go with a
Speaker 1: different poll question? McLevin? Oh? Sure, I have a I
Speaker 1: have a poll that I can guarantee will anger you
Speaker 1: if you want it. Even the question will get you mad.
Speaker 1: And I can tell it well guaranteed to anger well.
Speaker 1: Buster Posey is retiring today. If we ask who's the
Speaker 1: greatest catcher of all time? Is there even are we
Speaker 1: allowed to discuss options? Do? Is there only have to
Speaker 1: be one person in that poll? Buster Posey's not in that. No,
Speaker 1: I know, sir, that we were just talking about catchers.
Speaker 1: Who I do have a best catcher the last thirty
Speaker 1: years That apparently has been causing some stir on on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, if I do I think Buster Posey's a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer? Oh yeah, yeah, I mean he's He's
Speaker 1: been a great player. Uh and with the you know,
Speaker 1: same organization, and apparently he made a lot of money
Speaker 1: from an investment body armor. Oh Wow, like Kobe. Yes,
Speaker 1: that whoever was in on body armor made a whole
Speaker 1: lot of money because I think the evaluation was eight
Speaker 1: billion dollars for body armor. I don't know anything about
Speaker 1: body armor, but I do I know whoever was. It's
Speaker 1: like vitamin water if you were in early congratulations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the guy who created body armor created vitamin
Speaker 1: water first. Oh, he's double dipping. I think he got
Speaker 1: two large for vitamin water. Kobe Bryant, he was a
Speaker 1: partner with the company. Yeah, he puts six million dollars
Speaker 1: his own money up and they estimate the minimum his
Speaker 1: family will receive will be four hundred million dollars. That's
Speaker 1: a good return. That's a good return. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go with best catcher. Yeah, this last thirty years
Speaker 1: because you know Pudge is in there, YadA or Melina Piazza,
Speaker 1: Joe Mauer. It would be Pudge Rodriguez. But you know
Speaker 1: there's an asterisk by his stats. Best catcher of all time? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's always going to be Johnny Bench.
Speaker 1: He changed the position. That would be Johnny Bench. Um,
Speaker 1: how about the most overcovered And yeah, I had to
Speaker 1: put that up. I didn't put Odell Baker, Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: I'll actually put it on twitters. Is there anybody else
Speaker 1: who people feel is overcovered sea with the audience thinks? Okay,
Speaker 1: but by the way, I have one QB sat I'm
Speaker 1: dying to show. Okay, I have to it's can I
Speaker 1: put it in a trivia for him? Sure? From two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine through two thou eighteen, according to my research,
Speaker 1: twelve quarterbacks would taken either one, two or three. How
Speaker 1: many of those twelve quarterbacks are still on the same
Speaker 1: team that drafted them? Twelve? When one, two, or three
Speaker 1: from two thousand and nine through two eighteen, so we're
Speaker 1: including Baker's class. Yeah, it goes from Baker's class to
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford in two thy ten. But Kyler is not
Speaker 1: in there. I don't put Kyler, I don't put Trevor Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say one one Baker Mayfield. Yeah, he's the
Speaker 1: only one. Listen to this list of guys who Sam
Speaker 1: Bradford gone, Cam Newton, different team RG three, Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston, Carson Wentz, and Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky two, Sam Darnold three and Baker, so he's
Speaker 1: the only survivor at number one, So it doesn't guarantee anything.
Speaker 1: Did you see the report where the Washington football team
Speaker 1: almost pulled off a trade for Mitchell Truebisky? Yeah, what'd
Speaker 1: you think of? It was really close. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's that much of an upgrade. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: fine with Taylor Heineke's He's not a franchise quarterback, but
Speaker 1: this is sort of a gap year here. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they were thinking with, you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: that they didn't go after. I thought they were going
Speaker 1: to go after Justin Fields, and I thought that that
Speaker 1: might be the missing piece for this team because they,
Speaker 1: along with the Dolphins, have been the two most underperforming
Speaker 1: teams so far in my opinion. Yeah, point, I got
Speaker 1: Mitch Drubisky stats this year and they bear out a
Speaker 1: reason for a trade. No interceptions throw this year and
Speaker 1: no losses, undefeated. He's two for two passing. I checked out,
Speaker 1: like that, what's his QBR It's like it's one hundred
Speaker 1: and twelve. That's a ramp touchdown. It looks like the
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham junior era on Cleveland could be coming to
Speaker 1: an end. He was excused from practice today. His father
Speaker 1: released a video of Baker Mayfield not being able to
Speaker 1: connect with him on the field. OBJ wasn't at the
Speaker 1: facility yesterday. He's owed a lot of money, so perhaps
Speaker 1: the team's trying to figure out a settlement so he
Speaker 1: can leave without costing them a lot. I'm going to
Speaker 1: guess that he is waiting to be released and then
Speaker 1: the Brown's got a pony up the rest of his
Speaker 1: salary here. Beckham never really found a home in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and he even told opposing players, hey, come and get
Speaker 1: me after the twenty nineteen season. He was hurt most
Speaker 1: of last year. This year, he's been a little banged up.
Speaker 1: He's certainly been ineffective. One catch for six yards in
Speaker 1: a loss to Pittsburgh lass Sunday. The Browns tried to
Speaker 1: trade him. I was told that they did try to
Speaker 1: trade him to the Saints. No takers there. How much
Speaker 1: does he have left? You know, if you look at
Speaker 1: the video. In fairness to him, if you look at
Speaker 1: the video, he's open, and I think what he's saying
Speaker 1: is Baker Mayfield is not the right quarterback. He can't
Speaker 1: get me the ball. Beckham was great in New York,
Speaker 1: but that was twenty sixteen. It's been a while since
Speaker 1: he's been a star on the field. The question is
Speaker 1: if he does get another chance, can he be a
Speaker 1: great player again? And I think you're going to have
Speaker 1: a couple of teams rolling the dice here. Look, if
Speaker 1: you bring him in and you don't have to pay
Speaker 1: him big money, but you're gonna pay him. He can
Speaker 1: double dip and he can who he wants to go to.
Speaker 1: Maybe he goes to the Saints where he's the number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver. Played his college ball at LSU. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, are you sold on those quarterbacks there? Is
Speaker 1: he gonna, you know, be souring on Trevor Simeon because
Speaker 1: he can't find him the ball? Do you go to
Speaker 1: the Rams? You know they just released to Sean Jackson,
Speaker 1: But are you going to get the ball all the time?
Speaker 1: Because Cooper cups the number one wide receiver there? Would
Speaker 1: you go to Kansas City? You're not going to be
Speaker 1: the number one or number two a receiver there. It's
Speaker 1: tricky because okay, where do you want to go? You
Speaker 1: want to go to the Raiders? All right? The tight
Speaker 1: ends the number one choice and you know, with Henry
Speaker 1: Rugg's career in Jeopardy that maybe that would be a place.
Speaker 1: These are just places that a source told me prior
Speaker 1: to the show. But you know, we're gonna check in
Speaker 1: with the Browns coming up. Just get an idea of
Speaker 1: where this goes, because I think it's it's a very
Speaker 1: viable option situation where Baker Mayfield and Odell Beckham aren't
Speaker 1: on this team eventually. Yeah, a few people are speculated
Speaker 1: the Rams, but sat some stories just say Rams have
Speaker 1: very few picks to give up. They don't have to
Speaker 1: give him up much for a Beckham, but the money,
Speaker 1: the money's tough. You're not going to trade for him, right,
Speaker 1: you don't have to give up anything. Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: were saying the money would have to be similar to
Speaker 1: von Miller, where the Browns would have to pay most him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think the Browns have to pay if you
Speaker 1: release him. I think they're gonna have to pay. I
Speaker 1: don't think that the Rams don't have to give up anything.
Speaker 1: You can't trade the trades passed. Yeah, so there's you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about giving up any assets there.
Speaker 1: You just bring him in. You're saying, all right, We
Speaker 1: hope you're happy. We were just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: if the Browns release him, it does, do they have
Speaker 1: to pay him? Then? Why do they release him? If
Speaker 1: they have to pay him, why that's keep him and
Speaker 1: bury him on the rock? Well can you can you
Speaker 1: keep him without him being even more of a distraction here?
Speaker 1: He can't go into the locker room like imagine he's
Speaker 1: in the huddle and Baker misses him like you can't.
Speaker 1: Like teammates have gotten along with each other, and they
Speaker 1: may not have liked each other, but respect is the key.
Speaker 1: You know, Draymond Green and KD. Maybe they didn't get along,
Speaker 1: but they did have respect for one another. I don't
Speaker 1: think ob J has respect for Baker Mayfield. That's the
Speaker 1: difference because you can look past things. If you got talent,
Speaker 1: you do you go, okay, I may not like him,
Speaker 1: he's got talent. But when you don't think he's got talent,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't have. It won't work, It won't work.
Speaker 1: We talk about chemistry. Sometimes chemistry works and it defies
Speaker 1: the odds. This would defy the odds. If you bring
Speaker 1: J back and say, hey, oh my dad, you know
Speaker 1: he's crazy. You know ob J didn't say anything. He
Speaker 1: didn't say, Hey, you know what, I still believe in Baker,
Speaker 1: Like his silence is what told me everything. He believes
Speaker 1: in this. And he's already told two members in the
Speaker 1: media who in a sort of undercurrent, you know where,
Speaker 1: they were able to throw something out here like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, Baker's not going to OBJ on purpose. And
Speaker 1: I remember hearing these comments and I thought that might
Speaker 1: be coming from OBJ and turns out probably scamp. This
Speaker 1: is such a fascinating time. Look at the people, the athletes,
Speaker 1: the level of athletes that are not participating in their
Speaker 1: sport this something week for different reasons. Aaron Rodgers, Odell Beckham,
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, Deshaun Watson, and Ben Simmons. These are star
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Speaker 1: I never get invited to those things, and the ones
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Speaker 1: too good to be true, and then it's that's it's true,
Speaker 1: too good to be true. Has anybody ever whiffed on
Speaker 1: one where it was like I should invest in miss
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Speaker 1: And you know, then you're always talking about the ones
Speaker 1: that you didn't invest in. I was in on Carvana,
Speaker 1: and I was in early on Carvana, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I thought, oh, this can't last. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I checked out of Carvana and
Speaker 1: Carvana kept going. I missed out on that Hello many Yeah.
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Speaker 1: is Moby. Oh Moby. I thought you were gonna say
Speaker 1: Ashton Kutcher. No, he too, though he's really good at that.
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they're publicly trap. I'm gonna get
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Speaker 1: Mike White versus the Colts? If he plays extremely well,
Speaker 1: do the Jets then have a Is it a good
Speaker 1: thing or a bad thing? If Mike White plays really
Speaker 1: well tonight against the Colts? I think it's a fair question.
Speaker 1: Ultimately it's a good thing. I think in the short
Speaker 1: term it might be a little bit of an issue
Speaker 1: for the Jets they have to sort through. But at
Speaker 1: a minimum, you don't want to rush Zach Wilson back
Speaker 1: from this injury. So you want Mike White to win.
Speaker 1: You want Mike White to play well. They're trying trying
Speaker 1: to build something there, a new culture with Robert Sala
Speaker 1: and the Jet. So absolutely they want Mike White to
Speaker 1: play well. I know some Jets fans kind of have
Speaker 1: mixed emotions, like, wait a minute, why does he look
Speaker 1: better than Zach Wilson does. We'll see if that happens tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, Dan, I was talking with Greg
Speaker 1: Kosell this morning on the Rosstucker Podcast, and he just
Speaker 1: mentioned the Bengals were really conservative and vanilla against Mike
Speaker 1: White last Sunday. I mean, they really just played zone
Speaker 1: and I think the Colts will be much more aggressive tonight.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Mike White will play that well, but
Speaker 1: if he does, I know this, I'll personally be thrilled
Speaker 1: for him. Any of these guys, Dan Cooper rush Mike White,
Speaker 1: these guys to get chances actually started a game. They've
Speaker 1: been just battling, scratching, clawing to stay in the league
Speaker 1: for years. I always root for these guys. Is it
Speaker 1: a better story if Jordan Love plays well or doesn't
Speaker 1: play well against Kansas City. Oh, I think it's a
Speaker 1: better Well, I guess it depends on your perspective. I
Speaker 1: think it's a more interesting story. How about if you're
Speaker 1: a Packer fan, is it better that he plays well?
Speaker 1: No guarantee he wins, but he plays well, or he
Speaker 1: doesn't play well. Oh okay, that's totally different. Packers fan,
Speaker 1: you absolutely want Jordan Love to play well. Number one,
Speaker 1: you want to give your team a chance to win
Speaker 1: the game. But number two, you want to feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about what you have in Love when Rogers isn't
Speaker 1: there anymore, which is very likely next year. So you
Speaker 1: absolutely hope Jordan Love plays well. Now, for us, it
Speaker 1: would be interesting if Jordan Love really played poorly. That
Speaker 1: would make the offseason even more interesting. And frankly, it
Speaker 1: would make the entire conversation surrounding Aaron Rodgers and you know,
Speaker 1: testing positive and not being back stated. It would make
Speaker 1: that even more interesting if Love it plays really poorly.
Speaker 1: What do you think happens with the Packers? Are they
Speaker 1: complicit in what happened with Aaron Rodgers and what happens
Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers? You know, bigger picture with not just
Speaker 1: being out with COVID but is he fine? Is he suspended?
Speaker 1: I think there's going to have to be some sort
Speaker 1: of discipline. And now I will say this, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't follow the rules that closely of when they
Speaker 1: have to wear a mask or what they have to
Speaker 1: do if they're unvaccinated. But at a minimum, it feels
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers and the Packers organization we're misleading in
Speaker 1: this instance. So I'll be curious to see how the
Speaker 1: NFL comes down. They know it's a very sensitive topic,
Speaker 1: and frankly, other teams are watching. The thing I keep
Speaker 1: coming back to, though, Dan is you know I hear
Speaker 1: all the time whether or not your vaccinated is a
Speaker 1: personal decision, personal decision. I get that, but not really
Speaker 1: when you play for a team, right, Like not really
Speaker 1: for a couple of different reasons. I mean, number one,
Speaker 1: you know we've all read that you're less likely to
Speaker 1: tell positive, less likely to transmit it, all those things
Speaker 1: if you're vaccinated. So if you're not vaccinated, you're really
Speaker 1: not quite doing what's best for the team. And then
Speaker 1: even just forget that part of it, just the NFL
Speaker 1: NFLPA rules. I mean, say Quon Barkley tested positive, but
Speaker 1: because he's vaccinated. If he gets back to back negative tests,
Speaker 1: he can play in the next game, whereas Rogers is
Speaker 1: out at least ten days might put him out for
Speaker 1: the next game. You know, if you're if you're a
Speaker 1: leader and you're part of a team, it's not really
Speaker 1: the personal decision that people talk about it all the time.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a team decision, especially if you're
Speaker 1: a leader and winning the Super Bowl going to it
Speaker 1: winning it is supposed to be a high priority for you.
Speaker 1: I was not accused of being naive, but it was
Speaker 1: mentioned I might be naive because in my mind, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking Rogers, in his mind, thinks that he was protected,
Speaker 1: that he had, you know, this holistic approach and raise
Speaker 1: your antibodies and you're going to be because he said
Speaker 1: when he was asking, hey, have you been vaccinated, and
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, I've been immunized. Well, nobody in the
Speaker 1: room thought to ask him, okay, is he playing games
Speaker 1: with words here? That maybe in his mind he thought
Speaker 1: he was protected. Although I was told maybe you're being
Speaker 1: naive and giving Rogers too much credit, that he didn't
Speaker 1: know what he was doing, didn't believe in getting vaccinated,
Speaker 1: and was sort of taking chances here of being a
Speaker 1: spreader or getting in it himself. Well, it sounds like
Speaker 1: he's got this personal doctor that he really believes in,
Speaker 1: and if they did some type of therapy to try
Speaker 1: to boost his antibodies. I think on some level, Rogers
Speaker 1: probably did think he was protected. But to me, Dan,
Speaker 1: that's not the point. Like, Aaron is a really smart guy,
Speaker 1: and the rules were very clear from the NFL and
Speaker 1: the NFLPA. So listen, you don't have to agree with
Speaker 1: the rules, and I know a lot of people don't,
Speaker 1: but these are the rules of engagement for the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one season. So if it's really important to you
Speaker 1: to win as many games as possible, to try to
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, all those things, you really should
Speaker 1: be vaccinated, right, Like, if that's a high or priority one,
Speaker 1: win games, win the Super Bowl. Because of the way
Speaker 1: the rules are laid out this year, you really should
Speaker 1: be vaccinated if that's a high priority for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have to be vaccinated. You have Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz who said I'm not vaccinated, Alan Lazard, Kirk cousins,
Speaker 1: they've come out and said they're not vaccinated. Well, they're
Speaker 1: still playing I don't know why Rogers didn't just say, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not vaccinated. I've been immunized, and I'll go through
Speaker 1: the COVID protocol. Then. I don't know if anybody would
Speaker 1: have a problem with this, because when's the last time
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins or Carson Wentz's name came up that they're
Speaker 1: not vaccinated. I said, at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a situation where you have a big
Speaker 1: time quarterback test positive and we're gonna see what the
Speaker 1: fallout is in that quarterback room. Well, Jordan loves somehow
Speaker 1: escape this and the third string quarterback has COVID, Davante
Speaker 1: Adams coming off COVID, Alan Lazard with COVID. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Aaron Rodgers is responsible for that, but I'm
Speaker 1: curious if you're a teammate of Aaron Rodgers and you
Speaker 1: know he did this. Was he being deceitful? He was
Speaker 1: he trying to, you know, be vague and look at
Speaker 1: what the fallout is here? And why did the Packers
Speaker 1: know as well? Because did they just say, hey, whatever
Speaker 1: we do, let's don't upset Aaron given what happened in
Speaker 1: the off season. Yeah, I mean, listen, he didn't want
Speaker 1: all the criticism that goes along with not being vaccinated. Okay,
Speaker 1: he knows it's a polarizing topic, and he didn't want
Speaker 1: to face the wrath of the media. It's that simple,
Speaker 1: because otherwise he would have totally owned it. And I
Speaker 1: actually give credit the Cousins and Carson Wentz for owning it.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, Dan, I really believe that if
Speaker 1: Cousins and Wentz test it positive and miss games in
Speaker 1: the regular season, I think we would be up in arms. Anyway.
Speaker 1: They both tested positive in the preseason, so they already
Speaker 1: missed their time during preseason. I said back then, if
Speaker 1: this happens to a guy that's especially unvaccinated during the season,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a really big deal, and it is.
Speaker 1: If Cousins or Wentz testa positive now and had to
Speaker 1: miss ten days, maybe two games, I think they'd be
Speaker 1: getting a lot of flack as well. Maybe not as
Speaker 1: much as Rogers because people didn't know that Rogers was unvaccinated,
Speaker 1: but they'd still be getting a lot of criticism. He's
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, former NFL lineman. He works for CBS Westwood
Speaker 1: One and host of The Ross Tucker Football podcast. You
Speaker 1: can follow him at Ross Tucker NFL. The Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: junior situation. Does he have a point about bay or midfield, Well,
Speaker 1: he can be frustrated that he doesn't get the ball more.
Speaker 1: But then I played for five teams. I never once
Speaker 1: met a wide receiver that didn't think they should get
Speaker 1: the ball more. And this video his dad puts out there.
Speaker 1: You know, anybody could do a video. Look, you know what,
Speaker 1: damn you know, I'm gonna put a video out there
Speaker 1: five minutes of my NFL career and everybody will think
Speaker 1: I was really really good. Guess what I wasn't. You
Speaker 1: can do anything with video, maybe about three minutes. But
Speaker 1: the point is is, Okay, so his dad posts a
Speaker 1: video of when he's opened and doesn't get the ball.
Speaker 1: Every receiver's dad can do that. And by the way,
Speaker 1: what are you doing having your dad do that? And
Speaker 1: don't tell me Odell wasn't in on it because it's
Speaker 1: not a coincidence. At the same day, Lebron James tweets
Speaker 1: free o b j okay like this is an an orchestrated,
Speaker 1: coordinated thing. Frankly, honestly, this is really bad. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed for him, Like I'm embarrassed that he had
Speaker 1: his dad do that. I mean, what's next him next
Speaker 1: time I'm filling in for you? Am I gonna have
Speaker 1: my mom call you and ask if I can get
Speaker 1: a little bit more money when I feel like, what
Speaker 1: are we like? You're a grown man, You're an adult,
Speaker 1: and honestly, it's cowardly, Like, I have a lot more
Speaker 1: respect for guys that say, you know, I wish I
Speaker 1: was getting the ball more. I'm not happy you have
Speaker 1: your buddy Lebron tweets something and your dad post a video.
Speaker 1: It's passive, aggressive, pathetic. Do you think, though, he has
Speaker 1: a point that Baker Mayfield is just not a good
Speaker 1: enough quarterback. I don't think that's his point. I think
Speaker 1: it is. I think he's saying, I'm open he can't
Speaker 1: make these throws. He doesn't me doesn't pull the trigger
Speaker 1: quick enough. And if you look at now, granted, it's
Speaker 1: eleven minutes that's been edited together to make Odell look
Speaker 1: good and Baker to look bad, but there are moments
Speaker 1: that fill up eleven minutes, even though some are in
Speaker 1: slow motion, that Baker Mayfield does miss throws with Odell Beckham. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they all do. I mean, I think there's two
Speaker 1: different things. If he just doesn't like Baker, doesn't think
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's good enough, okay, I think he thinks that
Speaker 1: Baker doesn't look for him. I think he thinks that
Speaker 1: that Baker doesn't want to throw him the ball. Okay,
Speaker 1: But look, Baker needs Odell Beckham to get a new contract, right.
Speaker 1: I don't agree. I actually think if you look at
Speaker 1: it over the last couple of years, they're better without him. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want Odell Beckham on my team,
Speaker 1: but he is extremely talented, and I do think that
Speaker 1: you need to put up some passing numbers. You know,
Speaker 1: they're a running team, and there's a reason why, because
Speaker 1: they're more confident in running the football than they are
Speaker 1: passing it. Even with Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham, most
Speaker 1: teams would be a pass team first. I think there's
Speaker 1: still questions with Baker Mayfield here. I don't like the
Speaker 1: way O'Dell did this, But I think O'Dell did it
Speaker 1: because he knew, Hey, go ahead and cut me and
Speaker 1: pay me and I'll go find another team. Well, there's
Speaker 1: definitely questions with Baker Mayfield, especially as it relates to
Speaker 1: whether or not he gets a big time, long term contract,
Speaker 1: but as it relates to Odell Beckham Junior, I don't
Speaker 1: only know how talented he really is anymore. And Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield and the Browns have clearly played better without him.
Speaker 1: Throw the ball to Landry, throw the ball to Donovan,
Speaker 1: people's jones. They've got three good tight ends, their backs
Speaker 1: are excellent out of the backfield. They don't need Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior. But he was smart the way he timed it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because no one's gonna pick him up on waivers now
Speaker 1: because of his salary. So if they cut him, he'll
Speaker 1: be able to sign with whatever team he wants. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out the money right now. They
Speaker 1: want to get rid of him. If he wasn't guaranteed
Speaker 1: all this money, he would have been cut already. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that he's you know, they held him out
Speaker 1: of practice again today, and I think according to the CBA,
Speaker 1: Mike Florio said, you're not allowed to do that. You
Speaker 1: can't hold him out. He has to be able to
Speaker 1: come back if he wants to come back, So you
Speaker 1: have to either allow him to come back or you
Speaker 1: release him. And I think that's what he's hoping for.
Speaker 1: And who knows where he ends up, but it feels
Speaker 1: like he's going to get paid and then get paid
Speaker 1: again and going to get his get out of jail card.
Speaker 1: Who really wants him? I mean the Saints would take
Speaker 1: him right now. Yeah, you know what, that's fair, and
Speaker 1: I think they probably would. I don't think you get
Speaker 1: a lot of money. But he's injured a lot, he's
Speaker 1: not productive, he doesn't get along with quarterbacks like Eli
Speaker 1: Manning and Baker Mayfield. And this is the second time
Speaker 1: in a row that he's kind of tried to force
Speaker 1: his way out. Who's looking for that? I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the Grand Slam, right there? Of four things I don't
Speaker 1: want on my team. Yeah, but Antilo Brown, he got
Speaker 1: a couple of second chances, third chances. Much better player
Speaker 1: I think than Odell was at this time. I agree,
Speaker 1: But you're right, he'll go. He'll go to the Saints
Speaker 1: or somewhere, and I guess he'll get the ball more.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: very good anymore, but I think he realizes that people
Speaker 1: are feeling that way. And he wants to go somewhere
Speaker 1: else to prove that he's still got it. Great to
Speaker 1: talk to you. Ross is always thank you, buddy, safe travels. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: thank you. Sea. That's Ross Tucker, host of the Ross
Speaker 1: Tucker Football Podcast. One of our favorites works for CBS
Speaker 1: and Westwood One. Clemson at Louisville. He'll have that game
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Speaker 1: in Peacock, Yes, PAULI, we have something. Just to take
Speaker 1: a little left turn here. There's a major soprano update. Now,
Speaker 1: you did not watch the entire series. I didn't watch
Speaker 1: any of it. I thought you watched the last episode.
Speaker 1: Did you know I watched the last scene? The last scene? Okay,
Speaker 1: that was it? Good? This relates that, Hello, hold on,
Speaker 1: you watched the last scene of the last episode. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody kept talking about the scene. They were trying to
Speaker 1: understand what it meant. That's what this whole your whole
Speaker 1: thesis is based on that. Yes, yes, that that they
Speaker 1: don't die like we die. But the mafia is still
Speaker 1: going to be there. Okay, that's what a lot of
Speaker 1: people think. And there's a big controversy now after listening
Speaker 1: to me, ire Moffitt, if you haven't seen The Sopranos,
Speaker 1: but m David Chase, the guy who wrote it, He's
Speaker 1: been interviewed a thousand times about this. In two and eighteen,
Speaker 1: he talked about the final scene of The Sopranos to
Speaker 1: some interviewers from the New Yark star Ledger and the
Speaker 1: last scene, of course, they're in that little Holston's diner
Speaker 1: with the family and their daughters try to park and
Speaker 1: there's people around and feel suspicious and then don't stop
Speaker 1: believing his playing and it cuts to black. He was
Speaker 1: asked in twenty eighteen about that scene. He said, quote, well,
Speaker 1: I had that death scene in mind for years before.
Speaker 1: It's like a slip of the tongue, people thought, and
Speaker 1: David Chase didn't follow up on it. The other day
Speaker 1: he was interviewed a Hollywood reporter and the reporter asked him,
Speaker 1: was that a slip of the tongue When he said
Speaker 1: that death scene, he said no. He said the scene
Speaker 1: had been my mind for years, but not that scene
Speaker 1: I thought, And he said he didn't think of a
Speaker 1: cutting the black. He said, for a while he'd been
Speaker 1: thinking that Tony would be returning to New York for
Speaker 1: a meeting with all their mob bosses and he would
Speaker 1: get killed there. Oh, they call it trying to clean
Speaker 1: it up a little bit. So he said he changed
Speaker 1: his mind. Late in the last season. He was outside
Speaker 1: a little kind of junkie diner in the middle of
Speaker 1: nowhere in New Jersey, and he said, wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: interesting if Tony got it there? Some nondescript, little local diner,
Speaker 1: nothing special, nothing grandiose, And that's why he picked that
Speaker 1: as the ending. Okay, so he basically confirmed that Tony
Speaker 1: Soprowno did get whacked in the final scene. Oh, I
Speaker 1: think that he does die, but I think that they
Speaker 1: live on that it goes to black and then you
Speaker 1: assume something happens, but they, as a as a mafia family,
Speaker 1: they live. We're the ones that die. The mafia continues
Speaker 1: to live in whatever incarnation. At least that's what I
Speaker 1: took away from my thorough research of watching the last
Speaker 1: scene of Suprems. He also said he's not many people
Speaker 1: work their way back like you start at the very
Speaker 1: end and then you work your way back to the
Speaker 1: very beginning. But I'll get around of the Sopranos one
Speaker 1: of these days. You know, I usually just watch the
Speaker 1: final two minutes of a football game, you know, that's
Speaker 1: just that's all you need to watch here. Yeah. See
Speaker 1: the funny if you watched the whole series backwards and
Speaker 1: at the very finally get to the very beginning, You're like,
Speaker 1: these guys are in the mafia. No way, it's bad
Speaker 1: family men. I thought, yeah, I just man so curious
Speaker 1: to know what they did for that. This is a
Speaker 1: wow New Jersey, no kidding. Yeah, I thought they were
Speaker 1: just irresponsible. Yes, I remember one day you came in
Speaker 1: between Game of Thrones seasons. You're like, John Snow is
Speaker 1: gonna live? Like you've literally never seen a set kind
Speaker 1: of the show. I've never I saw the one part
Speaker 1: of Game of Thrones when the little boy gets pushed
Speaker 1: out of the window, which is like the very opening scenes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that first show. Yeah, and then I was done.
Speaker 1: But then, you know is John Snow and he you know,
Speaker 1: he got killed. And I came in and mclovin was
Speaker 1: talking about it, and I go, He's he didn't die,
Speaker 1: He's coming back, dude. Yeah, because you know the Hollywood business,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna let that actor want know. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, I never saw any of Game of Thrones,
Speaker 1: but the worst spoiler you've ever had and you don't
Speaker 1: even you still don't even know it the New Star Wars.
Speaker 1: When you tell me Harrison Ford here Muffier died in
Speaker 1: the Yes, yeah, I hadn't hadn't seen it yet. Two
Speaker 1: weeks after it came out, you said, oh man, that
Speaker 1: sucked when not Solo died. Well, it was a fight
Speaker 1: scene that took forever. Oh so you you actually sat
Speaker 1: to a Star Wars movie. Yes. Yes, I was actually
Speaker 1: in Vermont and uh, there wasn't much to do. And
Speaker 1: my family said, hey, let's go see the New Star Wars.
Speaker 1: And I went, is there anything else showing? And they go, no,
Speaker 1: it's the only movie in town. Paula, you've been to
Speaker 1: that theater. Yeah, there's barely one movie. Yes, sometimes there's
Speaker 1: none movie. Yes, And I so I watched the movie
Speaker 1: and I went, oh god, yes, you're gonna watch Dune. No,
Speaker 1: Timothy Shallomy, No, he's sure. Most of the cast is
Speaker 1: the same as that Star Wars movie anyway, Yeah, which
Speaker 1: made it really confusing actually, because they're like, yeah, New
Speaker 1: Star Wars. Oh wait, no, this is Dune. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I just don't have attention span
Speaker 1: to watch that stuff. Yeah, I gotta call. A couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago this pretty good story. An in law
Speaker 1: of mine has two daughters. I think they're I'm gonna
Speaker 1: guess they're like ten and eight somewhere earl around there.
Speaker 1: And the mom goes go ahead and watch whatever is
Speaker 1: in the stack of videos, and it was mostly kids movies,
Speaker 1: kid ish movies, and the two kids they put on
Speaker 1: Titanic and they sat there for like three hours watching
Speaker 1: Titanic in the first you know, the first hour and
Speaker 1: have a Titanic. It's like fun and bouncy and you know,
Speaker 1: there's beautiful dresses and it's almost a love story. And
Speaker 1: then the kids watched the last hour of Titanic and
Speaker 1: they're still, uh, they're having issues. Yeah. Yeah. By the way,
Speaker 1: Ralph Manco The Karate Kid is sixty turned sixty today.
Speaker 1: Jeff Probst from Survivor sixty whose career would you rather have?
Speaker 1: Would you rather be the Karate Kid or the host
Speaker 1: of Survivor McLevin Well did Jeff Probes get like a
Speaker 1: producer money from Gus. I'm gonna guess he got a
Speaker 1: piece of that. Yeah, I mean the Karate Kid is
Speaker 1: the ultimate career. I take him almost over anybody. And
Speaker 1: he's so well liked. Yes he is, Yes, poet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got some immortality as an actor if you're Ralph Macho,
Speaker 1: Karate Kid, the Outsiders, my cousin Vinnie, those are pretty
Speaker 1: locked in movies. Well then he brought back the Karate Kid,
Speaker 1: you know, the Cobra Kai and been very successful. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: I'm going Jeff Probes all day, all day. Okay, got
Speaker 1: dude made like fifty million dollars to fly to exotic
Speaker 1: islands for a couple of months and that was work. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take that. How about this, Yes, m clem By
Speaker 1: the way, you didn't watch Game of Throws. They watched Sopranos.
Speaker 1: But Cobra Kai comes out on a Friday, You're through
Speaker 1: it by Saturday afternoon. Yeah, I just want to point
Speaker 1: that out. Yes, it's true. There's there's certain shows. You know,
Speaker 1: after I get done with the show, I take a nap.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just tired. Don't want to talk. I
Speaker 1: want I like things that are just thirty minutes or so.
Speaker 1: They're kind of easy, breezy, don't have to think too much. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm watching The Morning Show with Jennifer Aniston.
Speaker 1: By the way, Uh spoiler, no, no, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do it, but I watched it last night. It's
Speaker 1: a big spoiler. Yeah it is. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: but you know the fact that it's loosely based on
Speaker 1: what happened at the Today Show with Matt Lauer and
Speaker 1: Steve Correll uh playing the role of Matt Lauer. Matthew
Speaker 1: McConn hey and p Diddy born today both are fifty two.
Speaker 1: Whose career would you rather have? Ra or rad? I
Speaker 1: think I woant to be McConaughey, think they're they're both
Speaker 1: cool and making all kinds of money. But I don't
Speaker 1: know there's something suave and debonair for lack of a
Speaker 1: better word, that they'd be. Matthew McConaughey. I don't know.
Speaker 1: P Diddy has made some coin. He made a lot
Speaker 1: of money at that all day P Diddy, Yeah, all day.
Speaker 1: He's got to be three hundred million dollars career salary. Game.
Speaker 1: Oh he might be three hundred million just off the
Speaker 1: vodka that he made, Yes, not even including his music. Music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never thought he was a good singer, musician, good producer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: great producer. He was smart enough to you to say
Speaker 1: to h who was my notorious big Yes, to say
Speaker 1: you you you be the star? Yes. Point. Career net
Speaker 1: worth of P Diddy estimated in twenty nineteen. Who wants
Speaker 1: a piece of it? Real quick? Four hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: million dollars ouch. But did he ever have people watch
Speaker 1: him play pool in his own house and then leave
Speaker 1: in the middle of the game. I got eight hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars net worth for Diddy? Congratulations, Congratulations.
Speaker 1: I think I want to beat P Diddy if could
Speaker 1: I I don't know. You can beat McConaughey. Get to
Speaker 1: go without your shirt all day and good shape. He's
Speaker 1: got a few bucks on him too. Final hour, we'll
Speaker 1: check in with the Cleveland Browns as OBJ played his
Speaker 1: last game there.