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Speaker 1: Oh, good morning, good morning, a morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 1: happy happy Fox Sports Saturday Fellas. I'm gonna treat today

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Speaker 1: my man, Jeff Schwartz. I'm Anthony Gargana Fellas. And you

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Speaker 1: know we're happy because camp is in full bloom. We

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Speaker 1: got it everywhere training camps.

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Speaker 2: But lots of highlights every day on the old social

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Speaker 2: media feeds. And I'm you can feel in the air

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Speaker 2: it's coming, you know, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I was at Eagles camp yesterday, uh, at practice, and

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Speaker 1: it just feels good.

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Speaker 3: And it's funny.

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Speaker 1: There's this step man, there's like it's early in camp

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Speaker 1: and and you know, I don't know how many fights

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Speaker 1: you probably started to get out of practice of times,

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Speaker 1: you know, but you see them now and it's just

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Speaker 1: a couple of days in and they're loving it right

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Speaker 1: Like you just feel that. You feel like everybody's back.

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Speaker 1: There's an excitement to it. You know, pretty soon everybody

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Speaker 1: get tired of it. But like right now, it feels

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Speaker 1: like there's a jump.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they don't hit each other anymore. It's

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Speaker 2: probably why they feel so good. The pads are like

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Speaker 2: optional right now. Feels like across the NFL, the way

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Speaker 2: that the new CBA is. I mean that I love

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Speaker 2: Camp two. If I didn't hit him money for a week,

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Speaker 2: it would have been it would have been a lot

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Speaker 2: better on the on the old joints and mentally as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know I'm not to be the old guy,

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Speaker 2: but I mean we would We've been full pads day one.

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Speaker 1: We were also doing two a day's John Foxy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I mean he's gonna stay. Don't do anymore anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nobody does two a days anymore. Nobody does that afternoon session.

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Speaker 1: All that stuff's gone. It's amazing how quick too, like

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Speaker 1: they are, like you know, ninety minutes and you know

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Speaker 1: it all depends. But some coaches are so streamlined it's

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Speaker 1: pretty wild. I mean, I know what you guys went through,

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Speaker 1: and it was real.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot different now.

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Speaker 2: But look, these guys obviously they negotiat for this, so

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Speaker 2: good good for them. But you know, when you're the champions,

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Speaker 2: as the Eagles are, I imagine that there's some comfortability

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Speaker 2: in sort of our way works. You know, like we've

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Speaker 2: done this and it's been working for us, and so

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Speaker 2: let's just run back the way we prepare for the season.

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Speaker 2: I imagine there's some there's a little bit of comfort

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Speaker 2: in that, I would guess. I mean, you always want

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Speaker 2: to adapt and and not do the same thing over

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Speaker 2: and over again. But obviously what the Eagles did last

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Speaker 2: year worked, and it's worked for many years now, right.

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Speaker 2: They've been very successful franchise. So there's some comfortability in

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Speaker 2: training camp of knowing that, you know, we've been winning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know with them, they're interesting in that

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Speaker 1: the Nick Sirianni when he first started was pretty they

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Speaker 1: were pretty light, and they amped up the work last year.

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Speaker 1: I think Fangio Vic Fangi had a lot to do

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Speaker 1: with that, but they they amped it up and they

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Speaker 1: hit a lot. They put the pads on during the week,

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Speaker 1: and they were they were They took pride in and

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Speaker 1: they believed that they were one of the more physical teams,

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Speaker 1: almost like you know how the Ravens are every year,

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Speaker 1: how physical they are, and I think the Eagles became that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they believed.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to one of the coaches yesterday and

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about last year and they believed.

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Speaker 1: We saw the big play run game, which is really

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Speaker 1: unique last year with Barkley hitting all those home runs,

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Speaker 1: and they believed that that at some point the other

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Speaker 1: and and they thought that that's how it would be,

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Speaker 2: There everybody bought in. Look, there is still a physicality

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Speaker 2: to the game. It's it's it's hard to to talk

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Speaker 2: about any team that's successful and exclude the physicality part

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Speaker 2: of that. And you have to practice that. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: just it does just happen. I mean there's very few teams.

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Speaker 2: But otherwise you look at like you know, the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: and you read notoriously very very physical training camp, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's just over the years, and I think

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Speaker 2: But you know you you're a hitting camp man.

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Speaker 3: To be good. Yeah, I Andy, I mean Andy was

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Speaker 3: Andy had tough camps.

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Speaker 1: I covered a lot. I was at all those camps

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Speaker 1: early obviously with the Eagles. And then you mentioned you

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Speaker 1: know McDermott and you know John Harball him is the

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Speaker 3: But those are the two guys.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, they're from reach tree, They're from Andy's tree.

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Speaker 1: So they that's how they learned, right, And that's that's

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Speaker 1: how they you know, believe about you know, making you know,

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Speaker 1: building those calluses. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing about the misconception with Andy

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Speaker 2: Reid is like he he man, they get after the practice.

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Speaker 2: I think you look at Andy Reid and you and

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Speaker 2: an offensive guy. And how much they know they put

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Speaker 2: that work in, Man, that is an Andy Reid special

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Speaker 2: and that's you know, that's what training camp is. And

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Speaker 2: we're seeing the work these teams put in now and

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Speaker 2: it does pay off.

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Speaker 3: Man. I played one year with Andy read my brother

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Speaker 2: And the work you put in training camp as much

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Speaker 2: as maybe as a player, you know, what's uncomfortable training camp.

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Speaker 2: It's supposed to be. Uh that work. It helps you

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Speaker 2: win championships, man, it really does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's why he's where he's at. At

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Speaker 1: some point, well, we'll probably take over the all time

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Speaker 1: leader and wins because of that. He's just he's a

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Speaker 1: great coach. He you know, he's one of the he's

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Speaker 1: one of the treasures of the league. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: a great coach. And he's also you know, you play

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Speaker 1: for me now, he's he's one of the best guys.

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Speaker 1: He he does love his players too, like he loves

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Speaker 1: his guys, and the guys love him back.

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Speaker 2: Because he treats the players with disrespect. I know that

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Speaker 2: sounds kind of silly, but there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: there are still players that deserve that and their maturity

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Speaker 2: is not really there. But and he just doesn't do that.

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Speaker 2: And what he says to us is how he's going

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Speaker 2: honesty and that willingness to just be truthful. Hey man,

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Speaker 2: this is what I'm gonna do as a coach, and

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Speaker 2: that he does exact thing he says, is gonna.

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Speaker 3: Do you know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I always liked to is

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Speaker 1: he had a great way dealing with like he he

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Speaker 1: had this leadership council. I weren't for Did he have

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Speaker 1: that with you, guy? When you were there with everyone?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, most everyone has leadership councils, just that

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Speaker 2: some coaches just don't listen to them.

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Speaker 3: No, No, he was. He was very active with it.

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Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, when his leadership council he met, he

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Speaker 1: met with them regularly. Yeah, yeah, like that was part

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Speaker 1: like his right hand man is Rick Burke all there

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Speaker 1: who is the trainer and Rick Rick's is great people

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Speaker 1: And you know, listen, it's all about that relationship with

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Speaker 1: the player. Players have to feel comfortable to the training staff.

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Speaker 1: And you know better than anybody, you don't. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to say nice things about Rick. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: hear it. It's okay, okay, you know you don't.

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Speaker 2: That's my boy. Rick and I go back a long time.

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Speaker 2: He's probably he's probably listening right now. So he's probably

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Speaker 2: because in training camp. In training camp, they don't sleep

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Speaker 2: so you might be listening to this right now. I

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Speaker 2: just want to make sure that he knows how he

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Speaker 1: One day, my uh, my wife, this is like years ago,

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Speaker 1: my wife had a horrible pain and uh it turned

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Speaker 3: He knew exactly what was going on. He was the

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Speaker 3: best there is. The Chiefs have.

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Speaker 2: Been a very healthy team a Rick, And you know,

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Speaker 2: some of that is just luck, right, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: you you there are injuries that happened during the week

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Speaker 2: But the Chiefs rarely have players that I would consider,

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Speaker 2: you know, injured by lack of like training, like you know,

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Speaker 2: muscle polls, right, they don't have a lot of muscle poles.

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Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of out of shape guys

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Speaker 2: that happens, and that goes to really the training and

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Speaker 2: they also get guys back very quickly from injury during

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Speaker 2: the season. And some of that's is Patrick Mahomes for

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Speaker 2: the most part being a freak show. And he does

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Speaker 2: have his own you know, he's got his own his

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Speaker 2: there's a quality to that, right. The Chiefs don't have

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys hurt every year and it helps

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Speaker 2: you win, right, you can stay healthy, you have a

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: Someone's going through it and you know many years the

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Speaker 1: early days like as a player, just kind of getting

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Speaker 3: Give us.

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Speaker 1: I think people will be interested in just your mindset

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Speaker 1: each kind of week through camp and kind of what

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Speaker 1: your goal is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know the first part of camp. You

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Speaker 2: so when you when you get to camp, everyone does

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Speaker 2: the same thing. You you have a notebook. We have

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Speaker 2: notebooks back then, and you would have a schedule right,

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Speaker 2: and you would you would cross off every day of

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Speaker 2: the schedule, like if you if you did it right,

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Speaker 2: you're like, okay, I got I got twelve more double days,

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Speaker 2: were crossing them off. Then you get a certain point

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Speaker 2: takes a toll on just mentally physically, Like it's just

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Speaker 2: a tough obviously environment to to uh to just forget,

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Speaker 2: like you're so busy and and so tired from from camp.

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Speaker 2: And that's what the first couple of weeks are. And

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Speaker 2: look looking back on it, you know camp is necessary

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Speaker 2: evil right, You need practice reps to be good. You

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Speaker 2: need to take those reps you need to bring you

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait, Jeff, are you ready?

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm ready to I'm I spent all weekend all

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Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. Where the fellas Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 1: I'm Anthony Gargano right here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, Fellas,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz in for Fitsie, I'm Anthony Gargano. Hey, don't forget.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm excited to hear about what Big ten

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Speaker 1: It's a good place to be. It's a program, yeah, honest. Now,

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Speaker 3: So you've got to allow for teams to get good.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna be punished for having this game, So

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna risk it. You're not gonna risk losing

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Speaker 2: participation tournament essentially, and that's I think what we're getting

435
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Speaker 2: at some times where if we go to sixteen teams

436
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: is just to playcate like the fourth best team in

437
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 2: the SEC. Which it's funny because Ohio State was based

438
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: the fourth best team yeah in the Big Ten last year.

439
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: But they you know a little bit different I think

440
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 2: than what we would normally get from a fourth place team.

441
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Speaker 2: So that's my only thing is like I don't want

442
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Speaker 2: to expand the playoff just to say we expanded it.

443
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Speaker 2: And it seems like with the impass right now, I

444
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 2: mean there's a pretty big impass with like what the

445
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: SEC and Big Ten want out of the postseason, we

446
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: might just stay we're at for a little bit of time,

447
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: which might not be bad. It took us so many

448
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: years to move to a twelve team playoff and then

449
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: after one year everyone's like, oh, let's change it again,

450
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: and it might be okay just to sit here for

451
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Speaker 2: a few years.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to sixteen.

453
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a participate I think there were

454
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: so many teams, uh, so many programs and you've got

455
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Speaker 1: to give me a shot. And for what, say, there's

456
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Speaker 1: only seven teams that can win.

457
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Speaker 3: There's not a lot of teams. Yeah, and listen, I

458
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: get it. I get it. I want to say it.

459
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Speaker 3: You know. I like it. I like the idea of

460
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: that tier system.

461
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to watch all the football, but

462
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Speaker 2: I'm okay if we're if we say, at twelve for

463
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Speaker 2: as much as possible, as long as possible.

464
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessary, but yeah, I mean,

465
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Speaker 1: I mean they changed the seating process, which they had

466
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Speaker 1: to do because that was that was a huge issue

467
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Speaker 1: last year.

468
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course my ducks happened to my ducks unfortunately.

469
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a problem last year and I'm glad

470
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Speaker 2: they fixed that in a year one and it does

471
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Speaker 2: seem like, you know, there there's two different models right

472
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Speaker 2: right now where you know, the the Big ten SEC

473
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Speaker 2: want two separate things, and it might end up where

474
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: we have to stay at this uh at this model

475
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: for for a little bit of time now while they

476
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Speaker 2: figure it out.

477
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Speaker 1: Well, we're saying, why don't you lay it out? Which

478
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: which one do you have from?

479
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: So basically, the SEC wants a model where they have

480
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: five automatic qualifiers, so basically one for every conference. Yeah,

481
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: and then and then you have eleven at larges. So

482
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: essentially what that does is it allows the SEC against

483
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: many teams as possible in right, because that's what they want. Okay,

484
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: the Big ten wants a model where you have four

485
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: automatic qualifiers from the SEC and the Big Ten, and

486
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Speaker 2: then two from the ACC, two from the SEC, I

487
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: mean that Big twelve, and then four.

488
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Speaker 3: I think it's ends up being four right.

489
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Speaker 2: Teams the committee chooses, and the Big Tens argument is,

490
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Speaker 2: what don't we let the play on the field decide it?

491
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Speaker 1: Right?

492
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: So if you if you do four and four.

493
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Speaker 2: That means that the conference play is deciding who goes, right,

494
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: the top four teams in your conference go instead of

495
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: letting the committee choose eleven of those teams, we're letting

496
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Speaker 2: them choose four essentially, and so I get, like, I

497
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Speaker 2: get both sides of it. The only drawback for the

498
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Speaker 2: Big ten model, which I tend to favor because I

499
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: do like the idea of just hey, let's let the

500
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Speaker 2: play in the field decide this, is that.

501
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: Four automatic.

502
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: There's not gonna be four teams every year in either

503
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: every conference that deserve to go to the playoff, right,

504
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: And that's the only drawback to But that model does

505
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Speaker 2: eliminate the committee choosing seven SEC teams, you know what

506
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Speaker 2: I mean, Like, I don't know if that's the right

507
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: way to do it either. So I generally like the

508
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: I think the Big ten model more. Maybe there's three

509
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: automatic qualifiers for each team instead of in each conversation

510
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Speaker 2: four as.

511
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Speaker 1: An automatic because you're you're right, yeah, not every year

512
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: are you going to have four teams, and so three

513
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: is good. Every year you'll you'll least have three teams

514
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Speaker 1: that are that are deserved to go.

515
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: So I so that that's where I started wearing net

516
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: on this stuff. So I'm curious to see, obviously, you know,

517
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: how this discussion continues to go as uh as they

518
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 2: kind of figure it out. And it was a big

519
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: part of you know, of of media day was was

520
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: schedules and Indiana's coach got our program. It was great,

521
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: went viral talking about you know, schedule and whatnot. So

522
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: I it's again good, good for us to have this,

523
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, these discussions.

524
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Speaker 1: So what else that's a what was the let's go

525
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Speaker 1: through some of the bigger teams. What else happened around them?

526
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Speaker 2: Guys, there's just a well, I mean Ohio State is

527
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: literally talking to Ryan Day, you know, just how do

528
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: you continue to have that that fire, you know after

529
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,239
Speaker 2: a championship and listening to talk about you know how

530
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: they essentially just tried to you know, told the team like, hey,

531
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: you know you can enjoy this, but you know we

532
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: we have to get back to work and listen to

533
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: the players talk about that. And the thing about college

534
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: sports is because you have such turnover on the roster,

535
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: and and Ohio State certainly does that, you don't have

536
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: to worry about that as much because there's players that

537
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: didn't get the play the last year. They don't have

538
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: the opportunity to get a chance to play, and they're

539
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 2: fired up to get their opportunity right to get out

540
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: there and win a championship as well. You're listening to

541
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: coach talk about the adjustments they made last season. I mean,

542
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: very clearly after the Michigan game. They sort of changed

543
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: offensively what they wanted to be, which they had to

544
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: do because the Michigan game just wasn't good enough, as

545
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: we know, and so it was it was interesting to

546
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: hear him sort of talk about that process. I liked

547
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: always like talking to Franklin. He's very honest, I think,

548
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: and forthcoming with how he feels about things, but very

549
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: clearly is like a top tier of the Big Ten

550
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: that includes the Organ as well.

551
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, well Organ's gonna be dynamic again. And

552
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Speaker 1: I mean that's one thing you know, I'm curious about Nebraska.

553
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Matt is a friend of the show, go back a

554
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: long time Rayola. Coming into his second year, he's built

555
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: an O line at Nebraska. I mean, I'm kind of

556
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Speaker 1: excited to see what they're about.

557
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: So for the Big Ten, the question is who's the

558
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: fourth team, right because we know the first three teams,

559
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: and as of right now, I have Nebraska's the fourth

560
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: team I have. They're the one Big Ten team I've

561
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: wagered on their wintal Over for the season. I think

562
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: that Roola year two. When you listen to Royola talk,

563
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: it's he's so mature. I asked him, you know, what

564
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: did you learn about yourself last season? What'd you learn

565
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: about your game that he can help you this year?

566
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: And he said, interesting answer. He said, basically, like, you

567
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: don't have to win the game the first three quarters.

568
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: What to do the fourth quarter is important and in

569
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: those winning moments where you have to make those special

570
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: plays tend to happen in the fourth quarter, and uh

571
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: and two minute drill and things like that, and so

572
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 2: listen talk about you know where he needs to be

573
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: better as a player, and and honestly, like those are

574
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: the answers I would want to hear from a player

575
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: like those moment I need better in the big moments.

576
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: So that was that was really good to hear. He

577
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: also mentioned something that I thought's pretty interesting. So I

578
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: do not like quarterbacks sliding feet first. I've said it

579
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: for a while now. A quarterback slide first to open

580
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: themselves to get hit in the head by a defender

581
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: who's who's coming in right to make the play. And two, uh,

582
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: when you slide feet first, they actually mark you down

583
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: where you start your slide, not where you finish or

584
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: even where you hit the ground, And so you always

585
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: end up being a yard behind where you think you are.

586
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: And I and and Rayel mentioned twice last season. I

587
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: think he mentioned the bowl game he got mark short

588
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: of where he was supposed to be because of that,

589
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: so he said he's going to now he's gonna he's

590
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: gonna dive forward and slide.

591
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Speaker 3: I loved here.

592
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: So little things like that make me realize how in

593
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: tune he is with himself. And and I make this

594
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: point a lot man, it's hard to play the true freshman, dude,

595
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: It's hard. I plays a true freshman sparingly. He was

596
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: just and quarterback in Nebraska, right. So I like Matt

597
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: Ruhle as a coach. I think we've seen over the

598
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: years his ability to get the best out of his

599
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: players heading into year three in college football now, and

600
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: I like Nebraska a lot that to replace those you know,

601
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: those those big old cornfread defensive linemen. But they'll they'll

602
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: be fine. I think they have a manageable schedule. I'm

603
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: just not as high on everyone's on Illinois.

604
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Speaker 1: I don't know everybody loves Illinois. Everybody's doadling Indiana and

605
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: loving Illinois.

606
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Speaker 2: I don't know if down is the right order in Indiana,

607
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: but just they were so good last year. But I

608
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: will say though for Indiana, he's a good coach, Very

609
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: he's a very good coach. Mendoza, the quarterback they brought

610
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: in is better than Rourke. They have a really good

611
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: quarterback from Camas. So a lot of it's Look, I

612
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: think the thing for me is like the excitement, man,

613
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: Like everyone just cam the start. It's like it's it's

614
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: gonna be so much fun this year, as it is

615
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: every year obviously, And that's what I get out of

616
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: Big tim of the day. Man, Like we're just talking ball.

617
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yes, yes, just talking ball. It's the great

618
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: it really is. It's so funny how you know we

619
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: all get happy, you know right around now.

620
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: It's like, man, you miss it, you miss it.

621
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Speaker 1: So so I'm a I love all sports, right like

622
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, be like I'm a baseball guy. You know,

623
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: my kids they played baseball and football, and you know

624
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: it's like we just got back. We were in a

625
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: tournament in South Carolina and then we got back on

626
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Sunday and then Monday we had football camp right like,

627
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: so we started our practices and uh, it's like, man,

628
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: all right, I can't wait to I couldn't wait to

629
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: turn the page to be like, all right, now it's

630
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: football season.

631
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: Let's go where in South Carolina?

632
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: We were in, uh, just outside Charleston, right like toward

633
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: the water.

634
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is is. Uh they're building so many

635
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: I have a place in north of Myrtle Beach essentially,

636
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: and I live in Charlotte, so it's easy easy drive.

637
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, sure, our wife's there now. And they're

638
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: building this like ginormous baseball complex in Myrtle Beach just

639
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: for that, for the the travel ball. You know, parents

640
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: who want to take their kids everywhere. It's a huge industry. Man.

641
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it all the time.

642
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm my kids aren't there. Well, I guess they could

643
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: be there if I want them to be. I just

644
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: can't do it. How old are your kids again? They

645
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: just turned eleven and nine?

646
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well you know now, like my my

647
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: baseball player is, I have fifteen and twelve. My fifteen

648
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: is plays football and he's coming to the sophomore year. Okay,

649
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: my little one is baseball and he plays basketball too,

650
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: but baseball and football is main sports. And you know,

651
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: we're in the travel baseball thing. And you know, we

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Speaker 1: just went to the Shipyard tournament. So it's the Eye

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Speaker 1: of Palms, which I'm sure you know, and there's a

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Speaker 1: complex shipyard. I mean, this thing was the dugouts were

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Speaker 1: nicer than half the Major League bullpox. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this place was incredible. I was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Like missing fans it is.

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Speaker 2: I was in Vegas, as I mentioned Vic Timmy to

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Speaker 2: day and you know, and I came back home and

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Speaker 2: the humidity is just like yeah, I mean I played

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Speaker 2: tournaments as a kid in in Arizona, in Vegas. I'm

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Speaker 2: from Los Angeles, and you know, we we didn't have

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Speaker 2: the missing fans that would have been nice to have.

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Speaker 3: But I get it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know, you know you want those

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Speaker 2: you want you want to be comfortable and and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my daughter is good enough to to probably

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Speaker 2: start playing travel ball, but I've resisted the urge from

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Speaker 2: I get it, man, and uh, we'll try to. But

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Speaker 2: you're you're kids to the age where they you know.

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Speaker 2: The thing about that it's a little bit frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Well tell you why. Let's say quit t o come

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Speaker 3: right back and pick it up. Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz Anthony Argana were the fellas right here on

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Speaker 3: A's had a night here was home run number four

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Speaker 1: He did four home runs for Nick Kurtz y six

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Speaker 1: was a ridiculous night, six for six, four bombs. It's

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Speaker 1: only happened twenty times in MLB history where a guy's

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Speaker 1: going yard four times in a game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, incredible obviously performance by him. And you know, as

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Speaker 2: of last week, I mean, Kim Smith was the rookie

695
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Speaker 2: of your favorite, and all of a sudden he's now

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Speaker 2: like the heavy rookie of your favorite, Which is kind

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Speaker 2: of crazy how just quickly those markets can move based

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Speaker 2: off of a couple. And I'm not saying he's not

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Speaker 2: deserving of the being a favorite at the moment, but

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Speaker 2: those markets move so quickly sometimes because of performances like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Get back to because I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: So you were talking about your daughter. We were talking

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Speaker 1: about youth sports and your dad.

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Speaker 2: So I just the thing that I think is frustrating

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Speaker 2: for me is that, and she's only nine, so this

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Speaker 2: is not really applied to her, but I know other

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Speaker 2: parents that sort of in the same boat, is that

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Speaker 2: you to get a college scholarship, you have to go

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Speaker 2: to these travel ball events. You can't get it like

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Speaker 2: the traditional way that you know that just playing high

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Speaker 2: school high school ball.

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Speaker 3: You just it's impossible now.

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Speaker 2: And so that's the part that I think frustrates me

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Speaker 2: the most, is that the system is set up to

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Speaker 2: where you can't you have to do these travel ball

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Speaker 2: tournaments and playing these in these things to just get attention.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, man, it's a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot for your kid to have to do,

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Speaker 2: to have to get a scholarship, to have to to

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Speaker 2: do all those extracurricular things to make it work just

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Speaker 2: to get noticed, right, And I think that's the part

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Speaker 2: that I'm not sure that the system should be set

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Speaker 2: up that way, but I know it is, and that's

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Speaker 2: the part that frustrates me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this there's a lot to be frustrated by, even sports,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you're navigating it as parents.

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Speaker 3: It's expensive too.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, first of all, we have jobs,

729
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Speaker 1: right like, so it's hard to get you know, you're

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Speaker 1: trying to make the time and do what you have

731
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Speaker 1: to do, but it's hard to go to these tournaments.

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Speaker 1: I mean I get it from a coaching standpoint, like

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Speaker 1: they want to just go to these tournaments and not

734
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Speaker 1: have to scout all these all these kids across the

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Speaker 1: country and these high schools. So they get all these

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Speaker 1: kids at one tournament and they can sit there with

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Speaker 1: their iPad and make their notes and take a look

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Speaker 1: at every kid. But it's still diminished in a huge way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's tough. I mean, football

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Speaker 1: is still where high school matters, but dude, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's another grind, like especially you know now, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was talking to a couple of college coaches that

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Speaker 1: we might have talked about earlier, and they're not recruiting

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Speaker 1: high school kids. They're gonna you know, they're cap in

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Speaker 1: the high school kids and you know, six to eight

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Speaker 1: kids a year now that everything else is portal uh JC,

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Speaker 1: Like they don't wanna, they don't want to go that route.

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Speaker 2: I think it just depends on where you are as

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Speaker 2: a program, right because sometimes you know, you just you

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Speaker 2: need to go older immediately, especially if you're rebuilding. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think when you get your program under control, I

752
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Speaker 2: think you do want to go high school recruiting. But

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Speaker 2: it's hard because with the win now mentality, like you

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Speaker 2: just you know, guys that there's no time anymore just

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Speaker 2: to sort of build your program.

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Speaker 1: Well, I had a GM tell me that the you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the things is, you know, unless the kid

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Speaker 1: is an amazing talent, right, like you know the kid

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Speaker 1: Williams from Alabama, right like where you're you know, kids

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Speaker 1: seventeen years old, these just ridiculously fast. They because it's

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Speaker 1: a cap system, because you're getting paid, they need you

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Speaker 1: to produce right away. So like their point is, there's

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Speaker 1: very few freshmen out there that could come in on

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Speaker 1: a big stage in the top twenty five school and

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Speaker 1: produce correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a different ball game

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Speaker 2: now and you have to adapt to all of it.

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Speaker 2: And I think the best coaches in football have the

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Speaker 2: best parents, you know, with their kids, are able to

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Speaker 2: figure out ways to get to get their kids seen

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Speaker 2: by the colleges, you know in College of sou Spenser,

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Speaker 2: and I understand why parents fight so hard for their

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Speaker 2: kids to be seen and get a college scholarship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is all right, pig Alur're coming up. Well

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Speaker 1: Switzerlan the NFL Fellas on Fox. Well, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 1: Good morning, every buddy. It's football season training camp is here.

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Speaker 1: Pretty cool stuff happened and Jeff Schwartz always good to

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Speaker 1: hang with.

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Speaker 3: Jeff.

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Speaker 1: I'm Anthony Gargano where the Fellas Jason fitz is off.

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Speaker 1: We come to you alive from the tire Raq dot

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Speaker 3: My man, I love hanging with you, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start our like kind of foray around the league.

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Speaker 1: So let's we'll look at each team and then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna throw a couple burning questions at you. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: so we'renna have some fun and we're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: hit each team kind of go with camp to camp o.

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Speaker 1: Our good friend Brian Baldinger balis excited. He's the dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving tomorrow. I got thirteen camps in fifteen days.

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Speaker 3: No one has a more interesting life than than Brian Balderer.

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Speaker 2: That man, well maybe he'd be like in the in

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Speaker 2: the Caribbean hunting for fish with his bare hands, and

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Speaker 2: next day it is a training camp.

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Speaker 3: Man. Dude, he just got back from Korea.

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Speaker 1: He was in South Korea and Japan for fourteen days

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Speaker 1: and it comes right back from football.

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Speaker 3: He's the greatest.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome, is he if? He is a ball lover man.

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Speaker 2: He loves himself with some football. I love it so much.

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Speaker 1: Good ambassador for the game he is.

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Speaker 3: He's breakdowns.

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Speaker 1: In case people don't know. I mean, he's got a

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Speaker 1: huge following, but make sure you following him on on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and social media and Instagram. He does all these

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Speaker 1: breakdowns which are really good man. He you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: go to him. He's has an office in NFL Films

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Speaker 1: and he and I I'll sit there with him and

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Speaker 1: he'll just be cranking out. He just grinds tape. It's

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Speaker 1: it's good stuff, really good stuff. All right, let's get started,

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Speaker 1: and let's start. Let's start in the NFC East. Because

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, the NFCU, the Super Bowl champs, had an

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Speaker 1: amazing year and it's an they're a fascinating story. Well,

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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianny is because at the bye last year they

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Speaker 1: were two and two, and uh, there was there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of unrest in the building.

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Speaker 3: They and I know this.

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Speaker 1: They they had talked about, you know, getting moving on

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Speaker 1: from Nick and maybe even shortly after the buy the

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Speaker 1: they were talking about getting moving on from them, right

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Speaker 1: around right after week four, and they had a bye

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Speaker 1: week in week five, they discussed it and then afterwards

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Speaker 1: they went on a bit of a run and that's

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Speaker 1: and then they start to really get get get going.

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Speaker 1: So it was kind of a fascinating story for the

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Speaker 1: Eagles last year to go from that point to then

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Speaker 1: dominating on their way to the Super Bowl. Yeah, i' mightna,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call for him to be fired. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I might be one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie about that, you know, I won't

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Speaker 2: pretend that I wasn't. Look, it does take a special

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Speaker 2: type of coach to I think, adapt the way that

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Speaker 2: that he adapted last season, right, you know, very clearly

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Speaker 2: something happened after that bye week where offensively, I think

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Speaker 2: they just decided to, heybut we use that offensive line

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Speaker 2: and run game a little bit more and and you know,

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Speaker 2: not put so much on Jalen Hurts, and you know,

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Speaker 2: defensively and really with a new OC is well, it

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Speaker 2: does take about half a season to feel comfortable. I

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Speaker 2: thought Vic Fangio throughout the year sort of grew in

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Speaker 2: that role as defense coordinator on this team, and you

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Speaker 2: got the best version of Philly down the stretch. And

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Speaker 2: you know, there's all this debate right now about Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 2: right where is his rank and and blah blah. I

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Speaker 2: mean for me, I had him I think ranked seven.

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Speaker 2: I think for me, I mean some people have them fought.

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Speaker 2: I mean, whatever, you have them wherever you want, seven,

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Speaker 2: And I think is where I have him right now.

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair and and I think because I

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Speaker 2: think when you look at his skill set and what

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Speaker 2: he does best versus the other guys I have ahead

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Speaker 2: of him, I do value I think more anything else.

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Speaker 2: You know, your your job obviously is is to to

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Speaker 2: pass the football from the pocket, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's always what he does best. And that's fair to say, right,

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Speaker 2: but he's still he played so well last season sort

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Speaker 2: of when it mattered most that he does get a

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Speaker 2: bump up in my book. Right, he actually both super

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Speaker 2: Bowls he played really well and and it's very impressive

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Speaker 2: to me. So, uh, Siriani, look man, I think that

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Speaker 2: you know, he's been mocked over the years and uh

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Speaker 2: he he kind of laughed everyone's face last year, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he got done last. He's another question for

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Speaker 2: me for them, I think is they did lose a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys on defense, important players, and I'm curious

866
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: to see obviously sort of how that manifests itself into

867
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: into this season.

868
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's gonna be the question. They lost

869
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: Josh Sweat, who was their best edge there. That's the

870
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: one position where I think that they might even look

871
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: to add is off their edges. Now they have a

872
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: lot of young talent. Their their average age on defense

873
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: is twenty three. We saw Nolan Smith on one edge,

874
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: take a take a step. I think he's legit. Uh,

875
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: there's a kid, Jlex Hunt. It was a dread. It

876
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: was a rookie y the Super Bowl. Yeah, he popped

877
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. You look at him. He was

878
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: he He started out as his safety and grew and uh,

879
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: they're real high on him. And then they went up

880
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: and signed Joshua And they had a couple of guys that,

881
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, rotational guys off the edge that they're hoping.

882
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, Vic Fangio, I think it's a

883
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: big reason for their success. I mean they were not

884
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: as good defensively the previous two years. They became a

885
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: really good tackling team, a physical team. Cooper Degene the

886
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: thing that put him over the top was that their

887
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: two rookies from last year, Cooper Degene in the middle

888
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: of the field and Quinnon Mitchell on the outside, had

889
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: a huge impact on the secondary.

890
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: They I mean, yes, I was in Super Bowl.

891
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: You know, it kind of cemented that right of how

892
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: good that group, that group you know is, uh, you

893
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 2: know Camby and it is and yeah, look I think

894
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: defensively you mentioned their youth, which is fine to have youth.

895
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: I mean that's part of the sport, right, You're gonna

896
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: have youth in some positions.

897
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: I I I.

898
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: Like to see things like Jordan Davis looking very spelt now.

899
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: I think that's it shows commitment for those who might not.

900
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Jordan Davis came in what like three sixty five,

901
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: he looks is three thirty now he looks from person,

902
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: so that you know, the commitment to to body and preparation,

903
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: especially if you win a championship, is always impressive. Now

904
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: he is getting close to like a contract year. So

905
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: maybe that's a little why this contracts contract year.

906
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: So that that does motivate players, to be fair, right,

907
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean that that that does motivate players.

908
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: But I like seeing that. So look, here's the thing

909
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: about the Eagles. Okay, when you can beat people up

910
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 2: in the trenches, you're in every game, right, And one

911
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: quality of the Eagles have and a lot of Super Bowl

912
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: champions have and the Chiefs have had this over the

913
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: years too. As someone who's followed them very closely, is

914
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: they don't lose games, right, they don't.

915
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: They don't do dumb things to lose games.

916
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: And when you win at the trenches and don't turn

917
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: the ball over and don't do dumb things, you're gonna

918
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: win a lot more games than you don't. So that's

919
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: a very good quality of the Eagles.

920
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you were talking about the trenches.

921
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: One of the most dominating players is Jalen Carter. I

922
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: mean he was unblockable. I talked to Andy you know,

923
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's like, you know, he just wrecked their scheme.

924
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they couldn't they couldn't block him. They had

925
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: to double and triple him. He is such a handful

926
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: that allowed sweat on the outside, that allowed a lot

927
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: of pressures. We saw Patrick and how Mahomes had just

928
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: didn't have much time to get anything done.

929
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: He's a beast.

930
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: And on the other side of the ball, They're old

931
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: line is consistently one of the best in football. Lake

932
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: Johnson to me, he's the best right tackle in football.

933
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: And they are they you know, that's a big reason

934
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: why Jalen has that kind of success. Right, Like You've

935
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: got a great running game with Barkley, and you know

936
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Hurts could move and Hurts his best throw is down

937
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: the field right outside the numbers. I mean with aj

938
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: Brown and Devontae Smith.

939
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: The thing works, it works altogether. I think it's fair

940
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: to say to question, if we're talking about questions for

941
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 2: the team. Yeah, you know, another offensive coordinator, it's a lot.

942
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: It's in three years. I think it's fair to say, like, okay,

943
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: like you know, just question how the offense will look

944
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: this season with a new offense coordinator. Again, but when

945
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: you have Barkley and you have Hurts and you have

946
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: the offensive line, it does make it a little bit easier

947
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: to make that transition. So just so that that those

948
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: that interests me right to see sort of how a

949
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: new OC gets comfortable with the players and the play calls,

950
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: and that's what I want to see earlier the season.

951
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, man, I I think that's

952
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: that's entirely fair. They're gonna be interesting, all right. Now,

953
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: let's look at the Giants. Oh boy, your former team. Uh,

954
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: they announced Russ will start, So he'll be the starting

955
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: quarterback and we'll see I guess how Jackson Dart does.

956
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, throughout the course of the season. Where

957
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: do you see that? Giants? Let's start a big picture.

958
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is gonna sound interesting to say this,

959
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: and you might it might be contradictory, but stick with

960
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: me here. I think the Giants this season are actually

961
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: going to be a better team than last year. All right,

962
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: so there'd be a better team. They might only win

963
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: like three games because their schedule. Their schedule is really

964
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: really difficult. It's Commanders, Cowboys, the Chiefs, Chargers, Saints, and

965
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: then it's like a gauntlet. If I think the Eagles twice,

966
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: the Broncos are in there, the Niners and the Lion

967
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: It's it's a really really hard schedule. And they were

968
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: one in eight last year. I believe in one score games,

969
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 2: and that does tend to like flip your year over year.

970
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: They might not be in a lot of one score

971
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: games this year with their schedule. So I know it

972
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: sounds weird to say that team might be better than

973
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: the previous year and have a worse schedule, but there's

974
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 2: a possibility that that's the case with this team.

975
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: They're better at.

976
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: Quarterback just by default, right, Yes, the better quarterback Andrew

977
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: Thomas coming back will help their offensive line immensely. Right

978
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: as we know, their defense is good, but it was

979
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 2: good last year. They added Abdul Carter like they're gonna

980
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: be good on defense, they're probably gonna be less injured

981
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: as a team, but their schedule is so bad and

982
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 2: so tough there as of right now, I think they're

983
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: a favorite and maybe one game.

984
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: Of he got it in front of me if you

985
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: want to, if you want to go through it real quick.

986
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: So start off, like you said, on the road, two

987
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: weeks in a row at Washington at Dallas home, Kansas

988
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: City home Chargers. Man, that's that looks like oh the

989
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: four uh at New Orleans all right, home Eagles at

990
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: Denver at Eagles. I hate the fact that they play

991
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: each other twice in three week span. I don't get

992
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: that that early in the season. Home Niners at Chicago

993
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: home Green Bay at Detroit at New England, then a bye,

994
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: then Washington Minnesota at Raiders home Dallas.

995
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: Man, that's tough, right, Yeah, So they might be better

996
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: this year as a team but have a worst record,

997
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: And I get that sounds goofy, but that's certainly possible

998
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: because of the of the talent that they have coming back,

999
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: the upgraded quarterback. And the question becomes for me for

1000
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: them is like how long does does does does Dabe

1001
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: survive this, okay, and then when does Dart play right?

1002
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: They start, they start slow with a record. They're gonna

1003
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: want to play Dart sooner or later, whether he's ready

1004
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 2: or not. Russell Wilson doesn't excite me as a quarterback,

1005
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's gonna do great. But he's

1006
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: obviously better than what they've had in this situation with

1007
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: with uh with Jones over the year, so they're gonna

1008
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: be better there. But Wilson, there's no it's not future

1009
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: quarterback for them. He's just he's just their quarterback the year,

1010
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: the stop gap. So that's why I think they're gonna

1011
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: they'll go to Dart as soon as they feel he's

1012
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: where he's ready to play.

1013
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're in no rush.

1014
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: You start, you see how things go, and then you see,

1015
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: you know how Dart is progressing in practice, and then

1016
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: you know and then you make the and then you

1017
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: make the call.

1018
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: I think you're right.

1019
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: So that's how I feel that Again, the Giants, I

1020
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: have under five and a half wins, I have what

1021
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: else do I have about them? I have a worst

1022
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: record six to one in the NFL. I got I

1023
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: just think it's gonna be a tough, a tough go

1024
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 2: for them this year. All right, let's go to Washington.

1025
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 2: Now they have an issue with Terry McLaurin. Well, see,

1026
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: I assume that's gonna get at some point ironed out. Uh,

1027
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: they're gonna be interesting because they added a bunch of pieces.

1028
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 3: They're looking to win now. And Javid Daniels. The one thing.

1029
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about Daniels, but I

1030
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: mean I don't see any sophomore slump or anything like you.

1031
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: You're the one person that's everyone I talk to is

1032
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: like sophomore stuff. I go, why everyone says, well, we'll

1033
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 2: see j struggle.

1034
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 3: He's not c J Stroud? What why different situations?

1035
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: Why because because just because Stroud did it that that

1036
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: automatically is no, they're not the same player.

1037
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: By the way, I like CJ. I mean, you know,

1038
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: Dave Daniels is is elite. He's he is a great

1039
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: throw Like the kid could move and the kid's accuracy

1040
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: makes every throw his mousehole. He's hard to bring down

1041
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: and hard to stop.

1042
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: He's great at at moving the way he moves inside

1043
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: and outside the pocket.

1044
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 3: I love the kid, and I I just think he's

1045
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: an elite talent.

1046
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: That's the thing is he Stroud is good. Daniels is better.

1047
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: Like go like the throws that he is that he

1048
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: made last year, Just go watch a highlight reel of this.

1049
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: They're incredible. He's an incredible thrower of the football. And

1050
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: I think that that we we look at what what

1051
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 2: happened to Stroud last year, just for some reason assume

1052
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen to to to Stroud situation last year

1053
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: was unique in that, you know, he his coaching, his

1054
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: design and coaching. Not say his coaching was bad, but design.

1055
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 2: The offense wasn't great last season. His offensive line wasn't

1056
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: very good. They don't didn't. They don't really give him

1057
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: the freedom of that offense to do very much on

1058
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: his own. Daniel's is not They're not in the same

1059
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: offense like Dale's can do he Wanton in the Kingsbury offense,

1060
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: Like that's not the same thing. They have a better

1061
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 2: offensive line than they have in Washington, assuming ad the enough.

1062
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: You know, Tunsil comes over from from Houston. It's a

1063
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: it's a better situation. And so I am still high

1064
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: in I'm very I'm very high on them.

1065
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: I'd put it like that, and I love Cliff I

1066
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: I I think Cliff is a brilliant offensive mine.

1067
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: So the knockout I've always had on Kingsbury, and this

1068
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: has been true backed up by you know, the results,

1069
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: is that his team's whether Texas Tech or or as

1070
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: an oc you know in Arizona as a head coach,

1071
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: O see whatever is that they have really struggled to

1072
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: back half of the seasons that he has coached. The

1073
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: team gets worse, it does. The adjustments just aren't there.

1074
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: And last year he kind of proved me wrong because

1075
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: they had a little loll in the middle of the

1076
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: season and the offense ran back up again. So that

1077
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: was great to see from just like a you know,

1078
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: historical perspective of what he's been as a coach. To

1079
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: see him make that jump last season too into really

1080
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: being able to make adjustments midway through the season was

1081
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: It's gonna be very encouraging if you're a Commanders fan.

1082
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now, I I'm with you. I I I

1083
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: like him. I think they're good. I make everybody's thinking

1084
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna drop off the table. Daniels has

1085
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: that thing. I mean, I don't even get that the

1086
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: Sea Jay comparisons. You know, they're different style throwers, right,

1087
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: They're completely different players. I mean they were different at college, right,

1088
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: Like at Ohio State he had gaping windows, right, like

1089
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: he was a different type of player, whereas in L

1090
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: s U it's a passing offense, it's a throwing offense.

1091
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: And Daniels made every throw and he didn't. And he

1092
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: comes to the NFL last year and I watched them

1093
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: a lot.

1094
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: I mean that kid, there's not a play.

1095
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: I literally think it's just because they're both in their

1096
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: second season and people just tied them together.

1097
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: That's it.

1098
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: That's all.

1099
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: It's there's no actual logic behind it, just that they

1100
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: both oh second year quarterback, Like that's all.

1101
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: That's all exactly, You're you're spot on. So where do

1102
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: you see Washington? Let's close Washington? Now, Uh, how do

1103
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: you say it? What's where's your kind of window at? So?

1104
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: I think they were about a ten win team, and

1105
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: I know last year they won twelve the records they

1106
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: went fourteen to five, like a legitimately really good season.

1107
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: The thing that that I that I think is that

1108
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: last year they were a team that won a lot

1109
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: of games against backup quarterbacks, yeah, and they're not gonna

1110
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: have that this season. So the it's gotta be better

1111
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Will have spent the off season watching

1112
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: Day and Daniels as as one does, right, And so

1113
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: I think that they're again they're gonna be good, but

1114
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: probably not winning twelve regular season games.

1115
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean, you know they won games

1116
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: like the Bears game. Remember, you know, there's gonna be

1117
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: some sort of regression. It doesn't mean they're not gonna

1118
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: be good or contender, it's just I'm with you. Twelve

1119
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: was you know, I mean that was exceptional. That was incredible. Yeah, yeah,

1120
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: like who's saying that? But ten in the playoffs to

1121
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: me makes sense, all right, where the Fellas will take

1122
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: quick to coming up the Cowboys and Jerra ripping his

1123
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: two best playoffs. Oh my fellas right here on Fox

1124
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: Fellas Jeff Schwartz in for Fitzie. I'm Anthony Gargano, always

1125
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: fun chopping it up with Jeff.

1126
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: Great football man, great sportsman.

1127
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: Can you say something quickly about I just heard, you know,

1128
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: I heard what Jamis Franklin said about Vegas. I heard

1129
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: what Brady just said about Vegas. I was in Vegas

1130
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: with the Big tim Media Day. People just don't like Vegas.

1131
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: It didn't feel any different than last year in Indianapolis.

1132
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't last year Indianapolis, we were in a football

1133
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: stadium that was like completely quiet and sterile and boring

1134
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: and empty. Vegas like we were in a ballroom, like

1135
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: I felt like an actual media day.

1136
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. I really didn't.

1137
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: Feel like that was like I felt like a media

1138
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: day to me, and I've covered many media days.

1139
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1140
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of could play about Vegas

1141
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: because people don't want to fly that far to Vegas.

1142
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: So it didn't like the line that Brady used was

1143
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: how a city could swallow up an event where you

1144
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's about the event.

1145
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: Maybe I maybe I missed the part of Indianapolis that

1146
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: was all about the Big ten Media Day. But the

1147
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: hotel had a sign it said Big ten Media Day.

1148
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: You went to the stadium and it said Big ten

1149
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: Media Day.

1150
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: I know that was it.

1151
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know what other part of the city

1152
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: was like all about Big ten Media Day.

1153
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: Vegas.

1154
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: You went to the hotel, there was Big ten media

1155
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: sign it Big ten Media Day signage, and you went

1156
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: to the ballroom, and you went to the radio row,

1157
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: and you went to there was Big ten media sign.

1158
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, like what I get. There's no autograph

1159
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: seekers that are hanging out outside your hotel because it's

1160
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, their fan bases are not there. Maybe that's

1161
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: what coach was talking about, this the fan base. But

1162
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like any different than any other media

1163
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: I've covered. I went to the two Big tens and

1164
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: seven PAC twelve, not seven but five packed ten pack

1165
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: twelve media days. It felt exactly like every other every

1166
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: other one of them. Oh no, man, I think people

1167
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: just don't.

1168
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: Like to be in Vegas.

1169
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: Maybe I think I think I think you're probably right

1170
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: that it's a it's too far. Yeah, not for me.

1171
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm from the West Coast. I was fine

1172
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: with it. I mean, the teams are out west, I'm

1173
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: sure would loved. I was talking to an athletic director

1174
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: of a of a school from out west. He helped

1175
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: on the Southwest, and just flew into Vegas like sure,

1176
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's okay to to give those schools a

1177
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: little bit of you know, love and not have to

1178
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: follow away Indianapolis.

1179
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: For this stuff.

1180
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't know. I mean I

1181
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: feel it. Chicago just makes sense to me.

1182
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: I've not been the one in Chicago, but yeah, Indianapolis

1183
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: we did in Lucas Ol Stadium.

1184
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 3: It was just like it was just like it was

1185
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 3: just kind of like boring.

1186
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: Man, Well part of it too has got to be

1187
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: it's so cavernous for immedia day, correct, right, you know,

1188
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: this world of felt more like.

1189
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: A media day, like you were, like the stadium is

1190
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: it just was it was very quiet and boring. As

1191
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: you mentioned, like not a lot of juice. This one

1192
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: felt like I had a little more juice because it

1193
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: was we were all together in a in sort of

1194
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: a ballroom ish setting situation.

1195
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that makes sense that that would make

1196
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: sense to me because you want a more intimate because

1197
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: it is it's immediate day. I don't know how you

1198
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: make a media day that big of an event, right,

1199
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: like it's preseason.

1200
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: How do you turn that into an event?

1201
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Because that's what they're thinking, right, That's that's kind of

1202
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: what their mindset is. I think, you know, the SEC

1203
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: what do they do?

1204
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: There's they do? There's in Nashville, now, yeah, which is

1205
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 3: a great city for that, you know, I.

1206
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: Mean I would do. I would do a big tam

1207
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: me today in Nashville if you wanted to.

1208
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in for that.

1209
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. The problem is not you think it doesn't have

1210
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: Nashville like Reeks sec.

1211
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: Of course you can't have it in Nashville. But look,

1212
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: sports is invading in Las Vegas more and more now right.

1213
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: We have an NFL team there, we have a baseball team.

1214
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: That's that's you know, the same as finally being built.

1215
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,959
Speaker 2: I believe in Vegas for the days. You know, college

1216
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: football last year with with un l V playing so well,

1217
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,959
Speaker 2: but you know, we've had bowl games there and big

1218
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: games start the season. I'm sure we'll have playoff games

1219
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 2: there over the years as well. You know, it's it's

1220
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: a w n B, a Golden Knights, It's a growing

1221
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: sports town and events like this continue to add to that.

1222
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: The only figure is, let me ask you a question,

1223
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: because you're you go there often, even for like the Raiders,

1224
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: it feels like it's less about Vegas proper, in the

1225
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Vegas population, and more just about this, the the entity

1226
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: that is Vegas. I think it loses something like I'm

1227
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: with you, like the Knights. The Knights became a thing

1228
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: and that that that you know, home crowd loved the Knights,

1229
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's such a it's such a

1230
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: tourist city that I don't know that it's got enough

1231
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: NFL fans like I still be honest with you missed

1232
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders in the Bay Area or even you know,

1233
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: even well.

1234
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: The reason why it doesn't feel that way football is

1235
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: because they're not from Vegas like the Golden Knights are

1236
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: you know, are you know grew you grew in Vegas, right,

1237
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: It's a Vegas team, and so it feels like there's

1238
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: a connection to you know, to the fandom there. It

1239
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: feels like you're right with the Raiders, you know, the

1240
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: what's the worst way to put it, like the the

1241
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: it feels like they're in Vegas, so the other teams

1242
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: fan bases can come root for them right right right,

1243
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 2: And look, but if the Raiders win in Vegas, then

1244
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: they'll make Vegas, you know, they they'll obviously change as

1245
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: of right now because they're so bad, it does feel

1246
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 2: like it's more of a of a destination for road

1247
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: teams than like an actual big support for the Raiders

1248
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: in town.

1249
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: And I guess I I also look at Vegas as more.

1250
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: It's such a tourist city and a transient city that

1251
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: like the Raiders, you know, like I just the an

1252
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: NFL team needs a bigger, bigger population of football of

1253
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: fans and not as much transient.

1254
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: But it's quite simple though. If they win in Vegas,

1255
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: then things shill change. But they don't win, that's it's

1256
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: gonna feel this way forever, and winning changes a lot

1257
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: of those things. But but I do agree with you

1258
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: where it does. It does have that that that that

1259
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: thought when you when you go there for your if

1260
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: you're like, you know, think about the Raiders, because you know,

1261
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: again like the stadium is on the edge of the strip,

1262
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: you stay in right Bay, you walk across the freeway.

1263
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: And but again when they start winning, you know how

1264
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: it is, man, you start winning a little bit, those

1265
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: those fans that are like, I don't know if I

1266
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: like the Raiders, right, and they buy into it because

1267
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: of course all your other friends are now Raiders fans,

1268
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: and you want to be in on it.

1269
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 3: You want to be in on it.

1270
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 2: And so I think that the Raiders, if they win,

1271
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: they'll get just just like the Golden Knights. As soon

1272
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 2: as gold Night started winning that they had went fairly quickly.

1273
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 2: You know, the fandom was there, you know, it's all takes.

1274
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a smaller fandom, right, Like it's an

1275
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: arena as opposed to a stadium. Correct, it feels like

1276
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: you can get you know, twenty thousand rabid nights fans,

1277
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: but you know, it doesn't feel like it had. It

1278
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: draws from the population and sports fans that other cities do.

1279
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: But then again, like don't mind me and that, I

1280
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: still hate the fact that the Chargers are not in

1281
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: San Diego.

1282
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: No one, no one wants wants the Charger in Los Angeles.

1283
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: I might even say the Chargers fans want them in

1284
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. There's no there's no I've seen this. Look,

1285
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm from Los Angeles. There are no Charger fans in

1286
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. They have no fan base. It's really it's

1287
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: a really tough place to be when you know, the

1288
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: the the fan the fans in Los Angeles are fans

1289
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: of the Raiders, the Niners, right, maybe a little bit

1290
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: the Rams if they're still if they're still you know

1291
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Speaker 2: from when the Rams were in l A. You know

1292
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: of score with the Cowboys, Like they're not fans of

1293
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: the Chargers. The Charger fans are in are in San

1294
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: Diego and bringing them to LA And I get why

1295
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: they did it, of course, but that's not there's no

1296
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: fan there's there's no Charger fans in l A.

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01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 3: No, No, you're right, it's way more Raiders. It's still right.

1298
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 1: It's amazing how the Raiders still have a huge footprint there.

1299
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 3: It's it's unbelievable.

1300
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they were there for a long time,

1301
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: and and you know, I think people identify with how

1302
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: the Raiders tended to be the rebels, right, yeah, and

1303
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: tended to be counterculture and tended to go against mainstream

1304
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 2: NFL thoughts and ideas, and I think people really identify

1305
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: with with them in that way. And once you become

1306
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 2: a Raiders fan, and just like any kind of you know,

1307
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: fandom begins, you typically stay with that. And when they

1308
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 2: left l A, they just went up the streets like

1309
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: they left and went to a different place. And so

1310
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: there's just a lot of you know, Raiders fans are

1311
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: very passionate.

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01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh no, it's a it's a it's a great point.

1313
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: And your point about the Chargers, man, I dude.

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01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 3: I just don't get it. It's bad for the league.

1315
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: It's you know Los San Diego from time to time too.

1316
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, and and and they're so good. Like,

1317
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: I think that that's a team. We'll get to the

1318
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: Chargers in a minute, but I think that's a team

1319
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: that's going to take a above a step. I mean,

1320
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm a hardball guy, so I I think, you know,

1321
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: I think he's got them going. All right, but let's

1322
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: go Dallas. All right, we left off our team by team.

1323
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: We have to finish the NFC East. Let's talk about

1324
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and obviously the big questions around Jerry Jones

1325
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: and taking shots at Dak Prescott and your best player

1326
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,440
Speaker 1: in Michael Parsons.

1327
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 2: The Michael Parsons thing is it's just so odd man like,

1328
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't really understand. So one of the tenants I

1329
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 2: think for successful teams in the NFL is I don't

1330
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 2: think I know this is what it is, right, is drafting,

1331
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: developing and keeping those players on your roster. You know,

1332
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: it's it's you, you know, the top of the draft.

1333
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: It feels like fifty to fifty, right if you hit

1334
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: on those guys, and then when you do, you want to,

1335
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: you know, support those guys and have them be you know,

1336
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 2: your franchise players, but also so you want to signal

1337
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: to the rest of your players on your team and

1338
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: potential for ages. Really but that hey, man, if if

1339
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: you do the right things, if you play well, you're

1340
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: a good teammate, you're good in the locker room, you're

1341
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 2: good in the community, we're going to reward you with

1342
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: a contract and all those things that that you become.

1343
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: Become a cowboy, right or you become a raider. He's

1344
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: talking about you, chief, And you want to to build

1345
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: your roster around those guys that bleed your colors because

1346
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: that's all they know, right, and you dora develop them

1347
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: and you want to you want to be that team.

1348
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: And Michael Parsons fits that mold to a team and

1349
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,520
Speaker 2: you drafted him. He developed as a cowboy. He's a superstar.

1350
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 2: He likes I think in Dallas like he's everything you

1351
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: want from a player, and the Cowboys not paying him

1352
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 2: is so odd to me.

1353
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: I get it.

1354
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: He was hurt a little bit, but it makes no

1355
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 2: sense why they have been so hostile to paying Parsons.

1356
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 2: Every week that goes by, contract goes by gets more

1357
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 2: expensive and more expensive and more expensive. If you're not

1358
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: going to pay him, just trade him. Yeah, you get

1359
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 2: something out of it at least. And so I just

1360
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: don't understand what they're doing as far as their thought

1361
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 2: process right now. And Jerry antagonizing him and his agent

1362
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 2: with his comments over the weeks seems really Jerry like,

1363
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 2: but just silly and bad business practice. Think about Dak

1364
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: and I get it. Look, you're frustrated he's been hurt.

1365
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: You pay them all this money, and that's a fair

1366
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: sort of fair thoughts to have. But to air that

1367
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 2: out in a press conference, you can't do something an old,

1368
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 2: an old senile guy and just like venting like Grandpa,

1369
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: come on now, like put away the Facebook, you know,

1370
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: like it's just like you know, like like like let's

1371
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: put it down.

1372
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: You know.

1373
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're you watch the Office ever

1374
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: in office guy? Sure remember when when Creed uh uh

1375
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: he wanted to do a blog and and Ryan was like,

1376
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: I I just opened a word document and I let

1377
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: him write on the word document. Like that feels like

1378
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: this is like like let Jerry have some fake press

1379
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 2: conferences to feel like he's in a real press conference.

1380
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 3: That's what it feels like. They have to do here.

1381
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 2: I think it was like www dot creed, thoughts slash

1382
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: like whatever, so word and open word documenting, and he's like,

1383
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: even even for the Internet, it's a little too much

1384
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 2: you have to give Jerry like this, maybe if you

1385
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: have like a fake press conference, he gets all.

1386
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 3: I have a system immediately.

1387
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: It again, antagonizing your players, I think, is just not

1388
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: a great ownership tactic, you know, and it's unnecessary, it

1389
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 2: really is. It's it's just it doesn't help your team

1390
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: grow and get to where you want to be. And

1391
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: so I don't really get the purpose of continuing to

1392
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 2: do this, especially with Michael Parsons.

1393
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 3: Nah, I mean he's he's a great player. I don't

1394
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: get it.

1395
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: And even Dak I mean, look, that's one of a

1396
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: ton of games over over the years. And by the way,

1397
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: your back up is Joe Milton. I mean, yo, Jar,

1398
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: I would be a little bit more complimentary of my guys.

1399
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: I would make them feel a little bit more welcome.

1400
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: I would too, But I obviously Jerry Jara does things

1401
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 2: differently and he has for years, and I mean this

1402
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,879
Speaker 2: is probably why haven't won a championship in thirty years.

1403
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 3: Right, that's right, that's right. All right, we're the fellas

1404
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 3: quick too. We'll come back just.

1405
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: In a moment.

1406
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere.

1407
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1408
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,920
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1411
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,639
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1414
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1415
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1416
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: get back to the cowboych for one second before we

1417
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: move on, because one thing I want to ask you is,

1418
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: who are they if they stay healthy? Let's say you

1419
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: get pasted, Mike, it gets past this stuff.

1420
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: Dak is healthy right now. I don't know. Really, I

1421
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 3: don't like their run game.

1422
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams, who has never been really been the same.

1423
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 3: Uh, and Miles Sanders. I don't know. And then you know,

1424
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 3: I look.

1425
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: At their offense and I go, Okay, you know, let's

1426
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see if Dak's there, it's better. But

1427
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, you added Pickens to go with CD, it'll

1428
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: be interesting. You got a good tight end. What do

1429
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: you think? So I think they're they're probably better than

1430
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: we think they're gonna be.

1431
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: I just don't know how good that actually is in

1432
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 2: the end, especially with their division healthy.

1433
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 4: Dak is a good n a great quarterback, right, I

1434
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 4: mean he's good, you know, I think I think it

1435
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 4: in a in a year he's tenth best maybe in

1436
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 4: a year right in a really good season, So that

1437
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 4: put them in playoff contention.

1438
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: I like their their young offensive line. You mentioned like

1439
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 2: they just they really have not figured out the running back,

1440
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: which is something that you think that they would want

1441
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: to figure ou because the best teams that Dak has

1442
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 2: had or been part of offensive always had that running

1443
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: back and they just really haven't figured that out recently,

1444
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 2: which is I think a little bit of a of

1445
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: a of a bummer for them. Defensively, they got a

1446
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: lot of playmakers on all three levels. The question I

1447
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: have is coaching, right, Coaching is so important in this league,

1448
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 2: and I just don't buy Brian Schotenheimer being better than

1449
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy. And that's that's my concern with them is

1450
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: is I just don't like their coaching staff.

1451
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 1: I don't really.

1452
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 2: Nothing Shoenheimer has done is give me confidence for what

1453
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:00,919
Speaker 2: he'll do in Dallas.

1454
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, all right, let's move on. Let's

1455
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:12,480
Speaker 1: go to the NFC North so Lions. Last year it's

1456
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: still one.

1457
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:14,560
Speaker 3: Of the the.

1458
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: The change stories of last season, which is my god.

1459
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: They were all such a role and just got obliterated

1460
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: by injuries, just completely obliterated. I mean, it took after defense.

1461
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: Those injuries. It's it's a shame. Now you lose both coordinators,

1462
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: which your outlook on the.

1463
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 2: Line, and they just by the way lost Levi Island

1464
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 2: Zerike when they're the defensive linemen are very early in camp,

1465
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: which is really unfortunately.

1466
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 3: My take on the.

1467
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: Lions is it's an interesting team.

1468
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,679
Speaker 2: Rights both coordinators and they lost them offensive lineman, which

1469
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 2: kind of stinks, right when you look at just like

1470
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: what you need to you know, to what they've done

1471
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 2: over the years with beating people of the line of scrimmage,

1472
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 2: and they still have some good offensive linement, but they lost, right,

1473
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 2: they lost Rag now, and that does a little older

1474
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 2: left tackle. That does concern me a tiny bit. But

1475
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: they're just they're so talented, uh at discoposition players right

1476
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: Jared offense, that offense perfectly, they got they got really

1477
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: good running backs, and then I think you're like, defensively,

1478
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 2: they're just there. It would be impossible for me to

1479
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 2: imagine a situation where they're that hurt again on defense

1480
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: this season. And that means they're gonna be better on defense. Now,

1481
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: are they gonna be elite defense?

1482
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 3: I don't.

1483
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna be an lead defense,

1484
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be better because they're not hurt.

1485
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 2: Ada Hutcherson is an elite pass rusher and him just

1486
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: back in the lineup will change what the defense can be.

1487
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: And and that has to make you, said, if you're

1488
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: a Lions fan, Yeah, yeah, uh you know, listen, they

1489
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: have to probably I think gives. First of all, there's

1490
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: not a better pants catching running back in the league.

1491
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: His routes are precise. I mean, he's ridiculous, and he's

1492
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: so dynamic. I mean, they are such a big play

1493
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: rag now worries me. I'm with you in a big way.

1494
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: He was a stalwart inside man what a what a player?

1495
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Now, they did draft a guy at

1496
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: Georgia that I don't think they wanted to play immediately,

1497
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: but you know he will. Now I'll tell you this, man,

1498
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 2: I really like Dan Campbell. And I'll tell you why

1499
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 2: I like Dan Campbell.

1500
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

1501
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 2: Everyone points to the aggressiveness and all that stuff and

1502
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 2: whether that's that's good or bad in.

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 3: The long run.

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01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 2: But what I like about Dan Campbell is that he

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01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 2: has an identity six to his identity. Right, if you're

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01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: going to be a team that's aggressive, be aggressive all

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01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 2: the time. You know, if you're gonna be a team

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01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 2: that's not aggressive, but don't be aggressive, right. He's not

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01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,839
Speaker 2: wishy washy. They are what they are. And he builds

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 2: his team around the car concept of we're going to

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: be aggressive.

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01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: All that that means he practiced.

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01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 2: It means his defense is aware of how what they're

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01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: going to be stressed with because of all the fourth

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01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: down situations, and also changes what you can how you

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01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,799
Speaker 2: can be on third down, right, I mean, because you know, okay,

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01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 2: third and two, what we can call a different play

1518
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: now because we're going forward and a fourth down. So

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 2: I just like that he styles his team around that.

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01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 2: I think just that identity of being aggressive wins your

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01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: more games than it loses you in over a seventeen

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01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: game season.

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01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, lit's I mean there are times when

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01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, these fourth downs are wild, right,

1525
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: But you know, I love I love him, I love

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01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:42,799
Speaker 1: his mentality.

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01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 3: We got to take quick break Fellas on Fox.

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01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: Ah, good morning, come on and go on, Happy Camp,

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01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: Happy Camp. Right, It's right, we're happy campers.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano, fell As fifties off today we

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01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 3: come be Alive from the tire rack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 1: Dude, it's so much fun man, talking ball with you.

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01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 2: I know I've enjoyed it too, But it's it's nice

1534
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: to that we got to the point of the year

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01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: we made it. You know, like we could go like exactly,

1536
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: we could debate like w NBA rivalries that we can

1537
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: just talk ball. You know, let's just talk some we

1538
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 2: can talk some baseball. I I you're I think you're

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01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: a Phillies guy.

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01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: I think Dodgers Phillies probably. That's my top of the

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01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: n L.

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01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 2: What do you think can the Phillies and compete like

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01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: I know the Dodgers scuffled a little bit lately, but

1544
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 2: do's feel like they're still the top of of the

1545
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: of the National League.

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01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think they're the two best rosters

1547
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: I do. I do wear with the Brewers. I think

1548
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: Milwaukee's very good. They had keep pitching, right.

1549
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: I know, I just don't trust a rookie in the postseason,

1550
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: like they would need the young kid.

1551
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 3: To be really good.

1552
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 2: I think early on, I just don't know if that's

1553
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 2: undoable in the post protests pitched really well.

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01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: Of course, but you got wood drift back correct, and

1555
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: I you know, I like their pen I like.

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01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 3: I love it.

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01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: I think the kids legit. Like I think the kids.

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01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: I think the kid's gonna be fine. They're a lineup

1559
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: is weird. Obviously they don't have the line up like

1560
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: the Dodgers of the Phillies, but they just get you know,

1561
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: they generate office Yelich is legit, Churio is good. Uh,

1562
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: and they just they just kind of like manufacture runs

1563
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: and they're like a little dangerous. That's the the only

1564
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: thing I would say is that they're dangerous. I mean, yeah,

1565
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: I think you're right that it's Dodgers Phillies, you know,

1566
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: it's the heavyweights.

1567
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, oh, Tony coming back to pitches is

1568
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: such a help for the Dodgers who need help. But

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01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 2: I'm curious. The deadline's coming up. I believe on on

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01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: on on Thursday, So we'll see who makes additions that

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 2: that will I think help us a little bit.

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01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: The Mets.

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01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 2: The Mets are feisty too, obviously, so you know that

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01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 2: they'll be curious to see. And I know they already

1575
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: made one move for Soto correct, So you know, just

1576
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 2: continue to see how these teams address their rosters the

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01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: next couple of days.

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01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 1: One o the Dodgers that it's you know, it's weird.

1579
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: They're they're lineup like guys just haven't produced. I mean,

1580
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: Mookie Betts is in a bad funk.

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01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: Freeman ear he was sick though, right, I mean, that's

1582
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: part of it. I don't he never really. I think

1583
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: sort of has recovered from from that.

1584
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 3: And Freeman was good early and he's had it. He's

1585
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 3: been in a funk.

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01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 2: I do wonder, you know, it's something fair like at

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01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: times in sports when you win, like how do you

1588
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 2: come motivate yourself for an entire one hundreds to do

1589
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 2: game regular season I think for them, they feel like

1590
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: we just sort of we just got to be healthy.

1591
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 2: They composts in time, and we'll we'll be ready to roll.

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01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I'm sure that that's kind of

1593
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: how they view it, that they can turn it on.

1594
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see and they just get buried,

1595
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: right like injury wise. You know, let's you're gonna use

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01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: Otani out of the pen, you know, are they? No? No, no, can't.

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01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: You just can't do that. That's how it's gonna warm up.

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01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's a fair point. That's right, fair point

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01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 3: because about between us the bats. But still, like.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was talking about it pretty doable. Yeah, it's kind

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01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: of tough, you know.

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01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 3: But uh. One of the other things that would be

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01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 3: interesting when I look at it is the Phillies need

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01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 3: Phillies have good starting pitching and they need a back end,

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01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 3: high leverage reliever.

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01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: Uh. They could also use another right handed bat. But

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01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Dodgers Phillies like two heavyweights going

1608
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: at it, and the NLCS go big for class A,

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01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: just go go all way.

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01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:04,759
Speaker 3: I would, Yeah, I would.

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01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: I think the Phillies are at a point where you

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01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: got got there. I mean they were a team in

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01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: their thirties, right, Harper is in his thirties, Schwarber in

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01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: his thirties.

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01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 3: He had two more bombs last night. J t.

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01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: Rail moved to their catcher's so important in their in

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01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: his thirties. So like I think, you know Turner in

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01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 1: his thirties, right, Like their best players are all their thirties.

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01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go all in.

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01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you think they will. I don't know

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01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 3: they're going to get a reliever.

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01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: Some of the names I've heard are kind of middle

1623
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: where you don't have to give away your top two

1624
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: or three prospects. I mean, that's state. They have a kid,

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01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: Aidan Miller, who was the third baseman who I know

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01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: they didn't want to move, and Andrew Painter is their

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01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: prize pitcher and who they don't want to move.

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01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,839
Speaker 3: So they're trying to protect those two. It all costs.

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01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: It may cost you one of them if you're gonna

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01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: get the reliever and the bat. Like, I still think

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01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: they need a bat, and I don't know if they're

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01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna get one.

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01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned so if they're an older team, is

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01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: it are you gonna Is it worth trading away some

1635
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 2: of your future to win a World Series, now, I

1636
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 2: and you are you gonna win?

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing, right, you have to win

1638
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: the World Series to make it worth it all of course, right,

1639
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 1: And here's the thing you're you're have. So John Middleton

1640
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: is their owner, and like the Dodgers, they're just gonna

1641
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: go spend, right, So you know, once you're in this realm,

1642
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: you're just gonna go go keep spending. I mean they're

1643
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: they their their farm system has kind of failed in

1644
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: that the three young players that were supposed to produce

1645
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: Alec Bohm, uh Scott and marsh have have not really produced, haven't.

1646
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 3: It's all been free agents, right.

1647
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: Harper is a free agent, real Mudo a trade turner,

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01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: free agent. Uh Castianis was a trade, like all their

1649
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: best players were a trade.

1650
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 3: Wheeler was a trade. I mean, Lizardo a trade. So

1651
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 3: it's not like their farm systems kind of built this

1652
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 3: this team.

1653
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: Now I realized there was all all those guys, are

1654
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: You're right, They're all not. They just haven't been home

1655
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: even Bryce Harper's not homegrown. No, no, right Washington. So

1656
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm in the mode of you just

1657
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 1: got to go spend and go try to win and

1658
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: again Harper, Harper needs to win like you oh with

1659
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: them Bryce to take your shots.

1660
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah.

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01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: Brice is obviously uh you know it's funny because he

1662
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: was on the covered Sports illustratied like fifteen. He's been

1663
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 2: like in the spotlight for many many years. Yeah, hey,

1664
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 2: off the subject.

1665
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: I got to ask you about certain guys we hate,

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01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: right like people hate.

1667
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 3: And I got a buddy of mine and he's going

1668
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 3: off on the Chargers takes the cake down, and I'm going, dude,

1669
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: why do you hate the charge I don't understand why

1670
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 3: you would hate the Chargers. I hate Harball and everybody it's.

1671
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: It's hate Harball because what I'm saying, I don't.

1672
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 3: Know what it is.

1673
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: He's pompous, and I hear it everywhere, like there's so

1674
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: much Harball and Justin Herbert hate, and I don't get it.

1675
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 1: I think Harpball, I I think I like both horrorballs,

1676
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: and I think they are both great football coaches. And

1677
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 1: look what Jim automatically goes there and turns that that

1678
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 1: franchise around.

1679
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,520
Speaker 3: I don't get the hate of Harball.

1680
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: So I think that the hate of Harball can certainly

1681
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: be because you just didn't like what happened in Michigan.

1682
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: And I think that's fair. But him as a coach,

1683
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: he's very good. He's when everywhere he's been yet, and

1684
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 2: he has a system that that seems to work. The

1685
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 2: players seem to like him, right, I mean, there seems

1686
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: to be no backlash from the players.

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01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, I'm that surprises me that someone would

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01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: hate hate Harbaugh. The Herbert thing is interesting because ook,

1689
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 1: I'm a Herbert guy, went to Oregon.

1690
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 2: I totally be good. He's good, but there's still like

1691
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: he's so there's still a gear, there's something that he's

1692
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 2: got to reach. Still a little more there, And I

1693
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: think people look at and say, well, how can you

1694
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 2: rank him ahead of Jalen Hurts as a better quarterback? Yes,

1695
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 2: that I think is where people are at with that.

1696
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 2: It's like, how can you It's not you know, that's

1697
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 2: why people I think you hate on Justin Herbert.

1698
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're perceptive. I think you're You're right on.

1699
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: And and here's the thing. Look at the weapons that

1700
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: he has had. He hasn't had the weapons over the

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01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Now he's got a coach right,

1702
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: and he's just starting to get the weapons. He's going

1703
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: to be easy in his system. Now you watch, he's

1704
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 1: going the flourish. I love Herbert. I love his arm,

1705
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: I love his I think he's mobile. I just think

1706
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: he throws a beautiful ball. And I still remember you

1707
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: remember his rookie year against the Raiders. It was a

1708
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: must win game Monday night and he was clutched as

1709
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 1: all clutch.

1710
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 3: Get big. Oh he's a great player.

1711
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's just got this said now, because

1712
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: when you get the label of great player, you now

1713
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 2: transition to like the results have to be based on

1714
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 2: playoff success. Yeah, so that's how we're judging him as

1715
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 2: playoff success now that he's reached a point now where

1716
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: that that is how we're gonna view his career. And

1717
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 2: that's why I think people are always hesitant to give

1718
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 2: him his flowers. It's because the playoff success has not

1719
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: been their relative to how we talk about him.

1720
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, And like to me, I throw out

1721
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: everything free hardball because you didn't have a competent coaching staff.

1722
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Stalley was atrocious.

1723
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah you know, and I go all right, well,

1724
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: now you got hardball, all right?

1725
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 3: You gotta. You got a great You're in a great system,

1726
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 3: you have a great coach.

1727
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 1: All right, now let's see what you can do. Right

1728
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: last year's first year, I thought he played well. Now

1729
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: I expect, you know, like another level next year. Yeah,

1730
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: I think you have to expect another level from him.

1731
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 3: He has to.

1732
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 2: Now it's time to because you've added some world wide receivers, right, yeah,

1733
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 2: you've added You've upgrade the offensive line the last couple

1734
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 2: of years, even though I think the left guard center

1735
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 2: is still a concern for me. But it's now time

1736
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 2: like you and you look at look. I still think

1737
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the AFC West. I still think the

1738
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Chiefs are very much the favorite. But you know, you

1739
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: have a really good division now, so there's a lot

1740
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 2: of competition. So you gotta, you know, you gotta, you

1741
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 2: gotta show it. Now it's time.

1742
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

1743
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back because we were in the

1744
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 1: NFC North.

1745
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 3: We had did the Lions. Now let's go to the Packers.

1746
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 3: You get it.

1747
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: You go out and you draft a big time receiver, right,

1748
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: you go. You gotta get Jordan Love some weapons. Where

1749
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: you're at with the Packers.

1750
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 2: So they they lost last year, I think only playoff teams.

1751
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 2: It was Eagles twice, Lions twice, Vikings as well twice.

1752
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 2: So they're close, right, they've been, They've had a young roster,

1753
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 2: and now this is the year I think they have

1754
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 2: to show, they have to show the growth. And so

1755
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 2: that's the question I have, Like, is is Jordan love

1756
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: that guy over a seventeen game season to lead him

1757
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 2: to the postseason? You know that I think is and

1758
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: lead them like not just the seventh seed, right, but

1759
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 2: like a division winner or even the five seed, like

1760
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 2: something where it's it's a year above and beyond the

1761
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 2: seventh seed. That to me is the question. They have

1762
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 2: a talented roster. Again, they were, They've been young for

1763
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 2: many years, and now it's the payoff has got to

1764
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: be now. So this is that's what I'm looking forward to.

1765
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: Is the payoff happening now?

1766
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1767
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 1: And that's why that North is fascinating, right because you

1768
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: got three teams that can win it, and then they

1769
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: have the wild card Bears right with Let's see what

1770
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,799
Speaker 1: happens near two with Caleb and now with Ben Johnson.

1771
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: So like that division is a fascinating one. And I

1772
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 1: look at Green Bay and I go. All right, I

1773
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: think Green Bay can win it. They absolutely can't. They

1774
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,759
Speaker 1: just have to convert in those moments and those big moments,

1775
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: and they haven't done that yet. And Monton they can't

1776
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: do that. But that's certainly how the games last year

1777
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 1: two were close, three points, two points touchdown, like they're

1778
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 1: close to being there. You know what I always admire

1779
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: about the Packers and and Matt Lafour is, you know,

1780
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: there's a quality to knowing what you are, and they

1781
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: very much know what they are. They play into those

1782
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 1: strengths and so that that I think is important when

1783
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 1: you will talk about preparing for a season and what

1784
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: you can expect from a team, like they know what

1785
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: they are, they play their strengths. They're well designed offensively, defensively,

1786
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 1: They're young and sort of feisty get after it. So

1787
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 1: I like the way they're built. It's now this year

1788
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: is now obviously about taking the to me, taking the

1789
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:24,759
Speaker 1: next step, you know, I I yeah, I think that's

1790
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: I think that's spot on. So all right, let's go,

1791
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: let's go to Minnesota because it's all about JJ and

1792
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm curious where you're at with the Vikings.

1793
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 2: Yep, this team, to me is the most fascinating I

1794
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 2: think of the NFL. I know Jefferson got loading up yesterday,

1795
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 2: but let's just assume that Jeffers.

1796
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 3: Were healthy and ready to go.

1797
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 2: So, uh, you have an offensive line that's healthy and

1798
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 2: one of the best of the NFL. Went all together, right, good.

1799
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 2: I like their offensive line. They have a good tight end,

1800
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 2: good running backs. You look at Jefferson Addison Naylor together,

1801
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 2: maybe the best trio of wide receivers in the NFL. Defensively,

1802
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 2: got pass rushers, right, you got you got a defensive

1803
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 2: coordinator that that is.

1804
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,719
Speaker 3: That's good, all.

1805
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 2: These things that would be like, Wow, this team, this

1806
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 2: team has it right now, right they think that, you

1807
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 2: argue again, like they're arguably in the discussion for best

1808
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 2: roster in the NFL. They're They're very well coached, which

1809
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 2: again is important to me when I evaluate teams as

1810
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 2: we head into the preseason. The problem is we don't

1811
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 2: know what we're getting from quarterback, right.

1812
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 1: I am.

1813
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm generally a fan of letting young quarterbacks sit and

1814
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 2: wait until it's their time, So I would normally be

1815
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 2: a fan of like letting McCarthy have this opportunity to

1816
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 2: not play last season, but most of the time. When

1817
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 2: that happens, the quarterback is practicing with the team. You know,

1818
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 2: McCarthy didn't practice last year.

1819
01:34:58,280 --> 01:34:58,839
Speaker 1: He was hurt.

1820
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 2: Right, He's basically a key again. And he was not

1821
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: asked in Michigan to do the things he's gonna have

1822
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 2: to do in the NFL. Now that it doesn't he

1823
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 2: can't do the things in the NFL just he has.

1824
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 2: He didn't do it in college, started asking him to

1825
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: do it now. Again, the talent is there, Obviously, there's

1826
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 2: a trust factor there. I mean, they draft him for

1827
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 2: a reason. But we got it. We gotta see it now.

1828
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 2: That was time to see it. And I don't know, Man,

1829
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 2: your guess as good as mine. I think he's gonna

1830
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 2: do it. He has all the options to be good, uh,

1831
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 2: but none of before man. And Minnesota is a team

1832
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 2: where if McCarthy.

1833
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 1: Can do it, Man, it's gonna be a good football team,

1834
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 1: real good football team this year. Look at their skill

1835
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:48,560
Speaker 1: guys are ridiculous.

1836
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: Their whole roster is good, man, their offensive line is

1837
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 2: their defense. The roster is very well set. The question

1838
01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 2: is is McCarthy ready to take gone the role of

1839
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 2: essentially the big dog? Right? Is he ready to make

1840
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 2: the throws necessary in those critical moments as you're ready

1841
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 2: for all the things that are that you're needed to

1842
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 2: win at a high level at that position, essentially as

1843
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 2: a rookie.

1844
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, the good thing is

1845
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: he could just spread the ball around, right like you,

1846
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:26,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Jefferson, Addison, Naylor, Hockinson, I mean, my god,

1847
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: and you got Aaron Jones out of the backfield.

1848
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 2: There's so much you can get. It's a very it's

1849
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 2: a very good team, man. That's why there Again, if

1850
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 2: McCarthy hits, and it might take a couple of months

1851
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 2: because again it takes time. Yeah, quarterback, they're going if

1852
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 2: they're if McCarthy is sort of hitting in all sinatars.

1853
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 2: As we get to week fifteen, it's a pretty scary

1854
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 2: playoff team, legit. Now, of course, if you're on the road,

1855
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 2: first road playoff game, I don't feel I don't feel

1856
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 2: great about the situation exactly. If McCarthy's in that spot

1857
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 2: going to Philly, I don't probably gonna lose, but right like,

1858
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: they have a chance to be with like a sneaky

1859
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 2: sort of good playoff team if McCarthy hits.

1860
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Man agreed, agreed, Uh, let's go to the Bears and

1861
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: obviously Ben Johnson, it's gonna be interesting is because some

1862
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: you know of these coordinators who are really brilliant, really smart,

1863
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 1: sometimes struggle as the head guy. I agree.

1864
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing, the thing that I worry about, I'm

1865
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 2: sure U seeing the reports of Killer Williams is not

1866
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 2: doing great in camp.

1867
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

1868
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 2: Defense is always behind. It's gonna be ahead of offense

1869
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 2: this time of year, there's always are It's it's a

1870
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 2: little bit.

1871
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 3: Of a timing and everything. Yeah, it's a timing thing.

1872
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Defense gets to play a little bit faster early and

1873
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 2: early in installs, and offense just doesn't. It takes a

1874
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 2: little bit of time into jazz and especial when you're

1875
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 2: on pads on like blocking and it's hard with the.

1876
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 1: Pads on up front. But but I think you want

1877
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 1: the reports to be a little.

1878
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,759
Speaker 3: More glowing about Kayleb Williams performance.

1879
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 2: You know, this is one thing that is noticeable for

1880
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 2: me and I look, I'm I'm still I'm not out

1881
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 2: on Killer Williams. I'm not saying that at all. I

1882
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 2: think it's too early to be out on anyone in

1883
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 2: their career this early. But when I play with quarterbacks,

1884
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 2: I kind of know immediately if they're good or not.

1885
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 2: You know, I I I didn't get to play with

1886
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 2: a ton of young quarterbacks in my career, but when

1887
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 2: I play with older guys, like you just sort of know.

1888
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 2: And the young guys I did play with it aren't good.

1889
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 3: I knew immediately.

1890
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 2: Dude, like immediately, yes, You're like, yeah, you don't have it.

1891
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's your sense is tag again And I

1892
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 1: get I'm I don't.

1893
01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to say Killer Wims is not going

1894
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 3: to be good.

1895
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

1896
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 2: And he has a chance with the weapons they've added,

1897
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 2: the offensive line they added, the coach they've added, to

1898
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 2: really be better this season. But it does worry me

1899
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 2: that the reports are that camp is not going well.

1900
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 2: That's not a good sign for all the reasons I've said,

1901
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 2: because you don't hear that of anyone else at the moment.

1902
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 2: Like I I've not followed the Patriots camp all that well.

1903
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: But I don't think we've heard that about Drake May

1904
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 2: into year two. I don't heard about Jay Daniels in

1905
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 2: the year two. Matter of fact, bow Knicks were already opposite.

1906
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 2: How good he looks already well, yeah, I mean I

1907
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 2: saw an NFL they raked him like sixth something. They

1908
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 2: went up pretty high for the NFL players on the

1909
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 2: on the survey, I was kind of surprised. Well, bow

1910
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 2: Knicks is always you think about Nicks and some of

1911
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks, like, there's not going to be a ton

1912
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 2: of variants in bo Nicks, right, So what I mean

1913
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 2: by that is, you know, he's not gonna have many

1914
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 2: bad practices. He's he's very efficient, he's the older quarterback,

1915
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 2: he knows how to play ball, he knows where his

1916
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 2: outs are at. He's not gonna try to do too much.

1917
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 2: So practice is most often gonna go pretty well for Bonicks.

1918
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is a guy that you know takes some shots, right,

1919
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 2: He's not gonna play sometimes conventionally and in the offense,

1920
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 2: and he's gonna have more variants of practice, and you're

1921
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 2: gonna see that on Sundays too, where he's gonna make

1922
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 2: plays that Boonix just can't make. But he'll probably make

1923
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 2: some some some bad plays that Bonix just won't make either.

1924
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: Right. So like Bonix to me, is never gonna be

1925
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Speaker 1: a bad practice. Guys, It's not.

1926
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Speaker 3: It's not who he is. It's not it's not what

1927
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 3: his game is gonna be.

1928
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:50,919
Speaker 2: So I put almost not less stalkingto Bonicks practice reports.

1929
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 2: But to me, it's like, it's that's what I expect

1930
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Speaker 2: from Bodis, Like he's gonna be good practice guy.

1931
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Speaker 1: He's always gonna be practice guy.

1932
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Speaker 3: Right right, right, right, yeah, I feel you. All right,

1933
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Speaker 3: let's say quick t o. We'll come right back. Talk

1934
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Speaker 3: a ball.

1935
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 1: How crave is this to talk football right here on

1936
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio?

1937
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 3: My man Mark.

1938
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: We have a great production team, Mighty Mark and Brandon

1939
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 1: and Mighty Mark. Jeff loves his loves his old mo movies. Okay,

1940
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: so that song is from one of those movies. What's

1941
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: his favorite one? We get them on the What's Fairite

1942
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: Mob movie?

1943
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:40,879
Speaker 3: What do you got, Mark? What's your favorite? Good Fellas?

1944
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:48,440
Speaker 5: Godfather, Goodfellas? Yeah, Casino's not bad, but Godfather, Goodfellas.

1945
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 1: We will we'll he'll we'll text before the show and.

1946
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 3: It just ind movie lines.

1947
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's fire e tailer up.

1948
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 3: Well go just to make sure I'm awake.

1949
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 5: Hello, senator, could you make that coffee to go?

1950
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 1: He'll send me that line just to make sure that

1951
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm up. Yeah, that's how every every week he's uh,

1952
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 1: he's great. And we got Brandon with us and uh,

1953
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: Brandon producing today, and I want to ask I want

1954
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 1: to ask you guys. I want to uh, Jeff, I

1955
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: want to start with you, and then I want to

1956
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 1: bring Brandon on here because I don't know if you

1957
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 1: saw the Little League story this past week about the

1958
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 1: kid from Jersey who sued Little League.

1959
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 3: He was susp he was thrown out of the game

1960
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 3: for a bat flip.

1961
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: And then uh they went that team hadn't Field New

1962
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: Jersey went on to win and uh play the next round,

1963
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 1: and he was suspended for the first game of the

1964
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: next round. And so his father's lawyer sued Little League

1965
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: and won. And so the kid's name is Marco Rocco.

1966
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: Where I'm not playing in the game that was the

1967
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 1: other night. So the whole thing happened against my kid's team.

1968
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 2: Right, Oh oh really, yes, right, you you were there

1969
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 2: for the whole thing.

1970
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 3: I was at the game.

1971
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, yeah, it's it's it's amazing.

1972
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 3: The story went went viral and national.

1973
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, we so it's hadd and Field and we

1974
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:40,600
Speaker 1: are Harrison Township, right, and they're both were both in

1975
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 1: South Jersey. We had won our districts and this was

1976
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,480
Speaker 1: our one of our uh I forget.

1977
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 3: The regionals around.

1978
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so they beat us the first game, right,

1979
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a loser's bracket, right, double elimination. So then

1980
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: we win the loser's bracket. He played him again. We win.

1981
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 1: Now it's the rubber match to go on to the

1982
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 1: next round for the state, right, for the states. So

1983
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: it's like one of those, you know, really tight games.

1984
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 1: If the umpires are horrible, right, one of our kids

1985
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: gets thrown out, and it was awful because the strike

1986
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: zone was terrible, right, but the kid, mean, it's awful

1987
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: calls and the kid just turns around and goes, oh,

1988
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,839
Speaker 1: come on, and the umpire throw him out. It's like, dude,

1989
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: is yeah, just give the kid. So that's the kind

1990
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 1: of mentality. It stopped the game like four different times.

1991
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 1: It was bizarre. So it was tight game. It was

1992
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 1: like two to nothing, and Marco winds up hitting his

1993
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: home run to kind of break it open, right, and

1994
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 1: he flips the bat and he did. He flipped the

1995
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: high I mean, you know, you know he's a good kid.

1996
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: But in fact, my Masimo and him played on the

1997
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,799
Speaker 1: same travel team together, so and here a good family.

1998
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:04,759
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know, it is what it is whatever,

1999
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: But he flips the bat and the umpire throws them out. Now,

2000
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: the rule is if you get thrown out of the game,

2001
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 1: you are automatically suspended for the next round. And and

2002
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 1: the father's argument is, hey, listen, you guys promote bat

2003
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:26,480
Speaker 1: flipping all the time on all your Little league videos.

2004
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 3: You see kids in home runs and are flipping bats.

2005
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 1: So while you know it's funny, he was like he

2006
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: was a gag.

2007
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, you can't do that. And talk to

2008
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 3: his son and the whole thing.

2009
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: But he's like, I want I wanted to play and

2010
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 1: so that and so I would need to find out

2011
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 1: where you guys line up.

2012
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 3: Should he have played or not played?

2013
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So I believe the judge actually hasn't ruled on it.

2014
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 2: They just get it.

2015
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: They just he allowed the junction to go through.

2016
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

2017
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 1: So here's here's my question for you. What is the

2018
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 1: what is the Little league rule? Like, what is the rule?

2019
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 1: Are you you allowed to bat for no rust it?

2020
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: There's no rule against it. So for you to as

2021
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: like on the sportsmen like Okay.

2022
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 2: So basically, if you watch the video, he's about halfway

2023
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 2: on the first base line and he throws the bat

2024
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:17,799
Speaker 2: up in the air to get you know, to celebrate. Yeah, okay,

2025
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 2: So if it's not a rule, right, And was this

2026
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 2: the last play.

2027
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: Of the game, It wasn't the last play of the game,

2028
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: but it was like in the last I don't know.

2029
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:30,719
Speaker 1: I think it was the top of the inning, okay,

2030
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 1: And so it was like a big moment, like it's

2031
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 1: the god. It basically broke the game open. So if

2032
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: he had broken a rule, i'd been outside of the umpire.

2033
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 1: Now I might not, I might not.

2034
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 2: Agree with the rule, but if it was a rule,

2035
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 2: I'd be on the side of the empire for just

2036
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 2: the rule.

2037
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 1: That's what the rule is.

2038
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 2: Like, I don't make the rules, I just enforced it, right,

2039
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 2: that's your job, is umpire of times. If it's not

2040
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 2: a rule, then I'm probably side with the coaching player

2041
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 2: here that you shouldn't eject the player. Now, I have

2042
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 2: long said that in pro sports that I think that

2043
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 2: we uh too often officiate emotion. Players should be allowed

2044
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 2: to show emotion. They should in both ways happiness, sadness, anger,

2045
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 2: you know, excitement, like you should we over officiate that.

2046
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 2: I think way too much where players get you know,

2047
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 2: fined or penalized for the emotion of the game, which

2048
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 2: you should not do. It's a little different when they're twelve.

2049
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 2: I feel like, right, but watching this bat flip, I

2050
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 2: did you notice.

2051
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 3: The bat flip in the moment?

2052
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that mean, right, I noticed it,

2053
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: but it was less about the like I didn't go,

2054
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, right, it was more of damn we

2055
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna lose, right, like, like that kid

2056
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 1: is shot, God bless them, and now we're gonna lose.

2057
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 3: We can't. We're not gonna be able to come back

2058
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 3: from that death.

2059
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I know.

2060
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 2: People will say, well, you have to teach kids sportsmanship.

2061
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, does not. This is not a moment of sports.

2062
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: But it's just a game winning home run. Like let him, like,

2063
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 1: let him have his emotion and let him be happy

2064
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: he won. So I probably lean to letting him play

2065
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: because it's not a rule. Again, if it was a rule,

2066
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 1: if you flip your bat you are ejected, I would

2067
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: side with the rule, even though I might not like

2068
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 1: the rule, I would side with the rule here, but

2069
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 1: the umpire is making his own discretion throwing the kid out.

2070
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. What's your

2071
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 1: thoughts since you were there. No, I didn't think the

2072
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: kid should have been thrown out, And I like, now

2073
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: I know the kid, right, so he's a good kid.

2074
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 1: So I you know, I was it's not important. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2075
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:43,479
Speaker 1: but no, I was like, what struck me with less

2076
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 1: the bat flip and more the man at home run man, like,

2077
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's the end of the game, Like they're

2078
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 1: not gonna.

2079
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 3: Be able to come back.

2080
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 1: So in the moment, I wasn't even thinking about it,

2081
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,559
Speaker 1: Like it's all about how you feel about the bat flip, right,

2082
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 1: Like for years you're trying to get baseball to be

2083
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: more emotional, show your fun, right, Like, so bat flipping,

2084
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:11,720
Speaker 1: but it's against the code of baseball, right, Like the

2085
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 1: code of baseball is you don't show up the pitcher.

2086
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 2: Though when we were it's changed from when we were

2087
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 2: played baseball.

2088
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean just well, I mean not altogether, Like, yeah,

2089
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 1: you're right in that it's a little bit more tolerated.

2090
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: But you talked to big leaguers today still to get pissed,

2091
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 1: like you flip your bat on me.

2092
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go after your head the next The next.

2093
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 1: Time you don't get I always go with the roof.

2094
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 1: Don't give up a home run. I don't to worry

2095
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: about bat your head if you don't a home run, right,

2096
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: feel simple, right, just don't give a home run.

2097
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:44,679
Speaker 3: I want to get on your head.

2098
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: So let me be branded in because Brandon played college

2099
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 1: baseball and he pitched branded yeah, our producer, So what

2100
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 1: do you lining up on this, Brandon?

2101
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:59,560
Speaker 6: It's an interesting situation, right, because you want to respect

2102
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 6: the game. You know, obviously have seen Acunya ta tease

2103
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 6: at the MLB level doing a lot of that stuff

2104
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 6: bat flipping, and there's been conversations about it, and then

2105
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 6: there's a more traditional way of respect. But then you

2106
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 6: get Jose Bautista in a playoff game and stuff like that.

2107
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:17,799
Speaker 6: I kind of think about just let the kids play.

2108
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:19,640
Speaker 6: I mean, this is what they're seeing on TV, this

2109
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 6: is the players they're emulating. It's kind of like what

2110
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:25,719
Speaker 6: we're seeing in AAU right now in basketball, where it's

2111
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 6: you know, they see guys like LaMelo Ball the way

2112
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 6: he plays in the AIA, right, and then they're just

2113
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 6: doing crazy stuff and grittying on the court and doing

2114
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 6: these dances and stuff. I'm not saying it's it's right,

2115
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 6: It's just how can you expect them to act in

2116
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 6: a certain way when the people they're looking up to

2117
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 6: are not acting that way, right, So I wouldn't I

2118
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 6: wouldn't have thrown them out. I thought that was I mean,

2119
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,719
Speaker 6: I saw it. It didn't look too egregious. I mean, he's celebrating.

2120
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 6: It's a big moment. And also you gotta understand, like

2121
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 6: they're still developing as as you know human beings. They're young,

2122
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 6: they're not even young adults yet there their gear, their

2123
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 6: character is building, everything building. I mean, they are emotional.

2124
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 6: This is a big moment for them. Probably, I know

2125
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 6: how big travel, baseball is everything. So I just think

2126
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 6: that I'm glad that, you know, his dad was a

2127
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,839
Speaker 6: lawyer or whatever and was able to get that adjunction,

2128
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 6: because like, it's it's ridiculous if he were to get

2129
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 6: suspended or if all that stuff were to happen. So

2130
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 6: I think, just let him play, and as long as

2131
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 6: he's not like cussing at the other dugout and saying, oh,

2132
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 6: you guys suck, and you know, obviously stuff we won't

2133
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 6: say on air, or if he's just bad flipping, I

2134
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 6: don't see how it's I mean, you threw the pitch.

2135
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 5: You threw the bad pitch that gave up the hit

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01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 5: or home run or whatever. You know what I mean.

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01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, that's your fault.

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01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you pitched Brandon you have you got bat flipped, though.

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01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 3: I have not.

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01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 6: The worst thing that's happened to me is I left

2141
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 6: the change up right over the middle of the plate,

2142
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 6: had a liner one hundred miles an hour back to

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01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 6: my face and I had to get stitches, and I

2144
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 6: had a baseball seam in my face.

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01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, that's so fun.

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01:51:58,360 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 3: I'll teach you.

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01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 5: Listen, though, don't throw a change right over the middle.

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01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 2: I mentioned it was funny hearing at the MB All

2149
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 2: Star Game Kershaw mentioned that he was miked up. He's like, oh,

2150
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 2: I didn't some of that change up over the middle

2151
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 2: of the plate. That was that was great? A Kunya

2152
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 2: By the way you mentioned him, I gotta say, like

2153
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:17,640
Speaker 2: per capital of them, he has the most gear on right.

2154
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 2: I've never seen a human have more like gear on

2155
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 2: his body than It's pretty incredible. He can play and

2156
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 2: move as a baseball player with like a full like

2157
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 2: toe to knee shouting guard and then also the elbow,

2158
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 2: the hand and wrists guard. I think he's he's he

2159
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 2: has like a Barry Bonds thing, plus the hand and

2160
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 2: wrists Like he gets the first base, he's like unpeeling

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01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 2: his entire body. It's pretty impressive he can swing that way. Still,

2162
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 2: I'm pretty I always find it interesting he can do that.

2163
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 3: Still, he's a great player.

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01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: I I do and he and and he's got I

2165
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: think the flair is good. I know what bugs like,

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01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 1: especially old school people. It bugs it. I like the

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01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 1: flat I have no problem with.

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01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 2: The flavor everything of bass old old school baseball people.

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01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 2: So that's not like anything new, right.

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01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's funny, uh that that whole thing blew up,

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01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 1: that Little league story blew up the way it did.

2172
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 1: And uh, I you know, I was like, what's the

2173
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: what's the consensus of the internet on that? By the way,

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01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 1: I haven't really pay attention with the internet. Thanks on

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01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 1: that player.

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01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 3: They split it was it was it was split, you know. Now.

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01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 1: Uh, just the addendum to the story, Hadn't Field Marco played?

2178
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 1: Hadn't Field played? Thursday night, they lost. They won last

2179
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: night and Marco got a.

2180
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 3: Couple of hits. Nice.

2181
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:45,839
Speaker 1: So now they're they You know you're in that loser's bracket.

2182
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 1: You're going to try to get out of it. Because

2183
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 1: Williams Sports around the Corner. I love I love the

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01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 1: Little League World Series. I think it's a lot of fun.

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01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 1: Oh I.

2186
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 3: I went to.

2187
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 2: We are Little League host of the twelve U All

2188
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 2: Star Tournament, and I went to a couple of games

2189
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 2: with my son. It was a it was a ton

2190
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: of fun. It's good, good baseball. Another other team had

2191
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 2: a kid throwing like I think he threw sixty eight

2192
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 2: miles an hour on his final pitch of the game.

2193
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 2: So afth pitch was sixty eight miles an hours. Yeah

2194
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 2: on the small field. Man, that's coming at you.

2195
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it is. That's coming at you. You know. Yeah.

2196
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 3: I was hoping we would. I was hoping we.

2197
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 1: Get a shot at it. Not to be well. Where

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Speaker 1: the fella is Jeff Schwartz and for Fitsie, I'm Anthony Gargano.

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Speaker 1: The fella is right here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

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01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: back fellas. Jeff Schwartz, I'm Anthony Gargano. Hey listen. You

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Speaker 1: Be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the high

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Speaker 1: Art radio app, and then it's always going to.

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01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 3: Pop up at the top of your screen. You're hooked up.

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01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 3: It's the move. So thanks for doing that.

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01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 1: Uh my man, So give me We'll get back to

2213
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: our our teams and going through everything. But give me

2214
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 1: your schedule now coming up, Like, where are you gonna

2215
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 1: like this training camp?

2216
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 3: Skin? You're gonna be hitting camps? What are you gonna

2217
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 3: be doing? Camp?

2218
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 1: Is hot?

2219
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 3: I will not be.

2220
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's sort of preview season for me,

2221
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 2: you know, making uh you know, making sure I have

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01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 2: the future wagers I need for myself and just preparing

2223
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 2: for everything that we're gonna see it. We'll start breaking

2224
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 2: down preseason film pretty soon, right anyway, we'll get the

2225
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 2: first game on on Thursday day. So we started doing that,

2226
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, just sort of getting myself ready for Sorry,

2227
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 2: you know, we'll start doing some you know, the the

2228
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 2: preview podcast and the wagers we like and all those stuff.

2229
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 2: So I might go to one Panthers practice. We'll see

2230
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 2: my son wants to go, I'll take him. I'm going

2231
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 2: to Eugene week one for Oregon.

2232
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 1: And Missouri, Missouri State, Mississippi State, Missouri and Missouri State,

2233
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 1: and then, uh, you know, just kind of playing on

2234
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 1: my schedule for the season. Also, you know, you know,

2235
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: this business is right, so I have a very fortunate

2236
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 1: to have.

2237
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of jobs.

2238
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 2: But there's gonna be a call like late August, hey,

2239
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 2: hey can you do this? Also, you know how you

2240
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 2: know how it goes like there's always always going to

2241
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 2: be adjustments to schedule and whatnot. But uh, looking forward

2242
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 2: to to all of it, you know, well, I'm looking

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01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 2: forward to just watching film again.

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01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. Yeah, that's fantastic. Who do you got

2245
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 1: so far? Let's go through some of your futures? Who

2246
01:56:58,800 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 1: do you got?

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01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't have I actually have a list.

2248
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 2: I keep trackable my wagers. So I pull my list

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01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 2: up for you.

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01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 1: Here.

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01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 2: It should always track your wagers. So you want you

2252
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 2: want NFL, you want you want.

2253
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 3: To college, start NFL, then will go to college. So

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01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 3: I have.

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01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 2: I have a sweatinger the Browns rookie linebacker for defensive

2256
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 2: Player of the Year at uh Defensive Rookie of the

2257
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:30,680
Speaker 2: Year at forty to one. I like that wager. I

2258
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 2: had the Chiefs to win the division in minus one twenty.

2259
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 2: I think that number is way too low for what

2260
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are. I think people are really not understanding

2261
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 2: where the Chiefs are. They saw the Super Bowl, and

2262
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 2: it's it's fair to judge a super Bowl for what

2263
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 2: it was. But one thing about the NFL that makes

2264
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 2: it very unique compared to other leagues, it's very It

2265
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 2: very much is a year to year league. What happened

2266
01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 2: in that game does not dictate all what happens next season,

2267
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 2: just not the way the league is. And the Chiefs

2268
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 2: have a very healthy wide receiving core heading to the season,

2269
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 2: which he did not have last season. If you recall right,

2270
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown was already hurt, then Rice got hurt a

2271
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 2: week four, was out for the season. These guys are

2272
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 2: all back and healthy and worthies in year in year

2273
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 2: two now and I'm not sure you've seen any photos

2274
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,040
Speaker 2: of Travis Kelcey recently. Guy lost looks like he lost

2275
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,720
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty pounds. He looks a much better shape last summer.

2276
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 2: Remember he was following his girlfriend around for her too,

2277
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 2: which by the way, I would too. I don't fault

2278
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 2: Tavis Kelsey for living a life that he lives. But

2279
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 2: and the defense is going to be just fine. So

2280
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 2: I have Chiefs to win the division and minus twenty.

2281
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 1: I got one question with them. Yeah it's the old line. Yeah,

2282
01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 1: I actually think it's not It's not that big of

2283
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 1: a concern. So obviously losing Joe Toney is is not

2284
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: is not great. But a couple of things here that

2285
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 1: I think are important. So it seems like Josh Shimmons,

2286
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 1: the first round off its to the tackle from Ohio

2287
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 1: State is healthy and playing and starting at left tackle.

2288
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,840
Speaker 1: If you talk to two draft guys, he was off

2289
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: of to.

2290
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 2: Tackle one before I got hurt on October twelve against Oregon,

2291
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 2: And so to be able to draft that guy late

2292
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:09,280
Speaker 2: in the first round have him played immediately is a

2293
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 2: huge boost. And they have more who they paid for

2294
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. It's still have Creed and Trey

2295
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 2: and Taylor and more. It's a good offensive line. Still,

2296
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 2: it's not that to me. That's not as much a

2297
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 2: Concercus Simmons as healthy.

2298
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I STI don't need a rookie and he still

2299
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: needs to see Now Andy knows oh lineman so and

2300
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 1: Hee's good at building the line. But that was the

2301
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 1: problem last year. I mean, that's one of the reasons

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01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 1: why they ditched games. Work close. We'll take quick to o.

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01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:39,480
Speaker 1: We'll come right back a big another hour of football. Wow,

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01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 1: awesome fellas on Fox. All right, that's us. We are

2305
01:59:50,320 --> 02:00:00,840
Speaker 1: the Fellas Jeffson for FITZI as we hang out from

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02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:06,960
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2314
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 1: the air. So lots of lots to tackle. One more

2315
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:40,600
Speaker 1: hour to go, as we hang out on this Saturday

2316
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game coming up this week. My buddy

2317
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 1: Eddie Webster, a great college football man, is like, I

2318
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 1: wish the Hall of Fame game was on a Saturday,

2319
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 1: like the old school days, Saturday four o'clock. Now we

2320
02:00:56,080 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 1: take in every game, Schwartzy, we get every game, Jeff.

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02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:04,960
Speaker 2: There's no stopping it. It's it's Thursday this year. We're

2322
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,320
Speaker 2: all gonna watch it. We're all gonna enjoy it, and

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02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:09,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna My rule is, if you watch it, you

2324
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 2: can't complain about it. So if you watch it, don't

2325
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 2: complain about it. I love that rule. I love that rule. Yes,

2326
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 2: you know what it's gonna be, you're right, and then

2327
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 2: we're all gonna gamble on it, probably so they're all

2328
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 2: gonna have something something on it, so there'll be a

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02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 2: reason for all of us to watch it.

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02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:29,120
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and I love I loved your

2332
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:30,960
Speaker 1: point because you're like, I'm gonna watch the whole game,

2333
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:36,400
Speaker 1: and I agree. I never get when people complain about

2334
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:39,400
Speaker 1: like a pre like the Hall of Fame game, Well,

2335
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch it because it's the first time you

2336
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:46,160
Speaker 1: get to see it on TV since the super Bowl.

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02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:46,920
Speaker 1: It's back.

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02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 3: It symbolizes it. Yeah, we know what it is, but

2339
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 3: just to be able to see it, and it's less

2340
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 3: about the game on the field and more about the

2341
02:01:57,160 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 3: idea of hey, let's talk about the opening, what's gonna

2342
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 3: happen for the season, then the whole thing.

2343
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: It's a it's a symbol that football's back. It's a

2344
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:08,960
Speaker 1: science back, and that leads to more hope and excitement

2345
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:09,480
Speaker 1: for the season.

2346
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 2: So that's why we all watch it. It's not because

2347
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 2: we love watching the third string Lions and Chargers play

2348
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 2: each other. I think it's beause we love what this symbolizes.

2349
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree, and I love it.

2350
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 1: I like the can't complain about it now. I'm with you, man,

2351
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm down with that.

2352
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm excited for the first Baldy breakdown of like a

2353
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 2: scheme thing he sees it's a third string offensive lineman.

2354
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 2: I'll do the same thing, though, to be fair, so

2355
02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:39,320
Speaker 2: I can't say I won't do the same thing.

2356
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you will. All right.

2357
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,680
Speaker 1: Before we get back to uh, we're going through our

2358
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:46,760
Speaker 1: our questions for all the teams.

2359
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 3: Before we get back to that. You've got a couple

2360
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 3: more futures that you have.

2361
02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I like the Giants under five and a

2362
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 2: half wins.

2363
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 3: I think I mentioned that as well. I like the.

2364
02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:02,520
Speaker 1: Giants under to be fewest wins at plus six hundred,

2365
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:05,520
Speaker 1: so six to one. I think they have a tough year.

2366
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:12,280
Speaker 2: As I mentioned previously, Chiefs to win the division, Falcons would

2367
02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:14,040
Speaker 2: be a not Falcons the Vikings to be a playoff

2368
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:19,839
Speaker 2: team is pretty intriguing to me. I'm also high on on.

2369
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 1: The Panthers this year. I think Panthers over I think

2370
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:24,600
Speaker 1: it's seven and a half wins is something I'm on.

2371
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm on that.

2372
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on Dolphins under seven and a half wins

2373
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:30,400
Speaker 2: as well. I think Dolphins have a tough season.

2374
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the South. You mentioned Carolina.

2375
02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 1: Let's start with Carolina. You're in Charlotte. What do you

2376
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:40,560
Speaker 1: see from the Panthers? So you're bullish all them?

2377
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2378
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:44,320
Speaker 2: So they benched Brice Young last year, and I thought

2379
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 2: that was the end of Brice Young in Carolina, right,

2380
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:48,360
Speaker 2: Dad canals and and Dan Morgan did not draft him.

2381
02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:49,920
Speaker 2: They have no connection to him. And then he comes

2382
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:52,720
Speaker 2: back in It plays much much better football. If you

2383
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 2: remember the end of the season. I think they won

2384
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 2: four of their last nine games after starting I think

2385
02:03:57,320 --> 02:04:01,320
Speaker 2: one in one or whatever. Remember that they had I

2386
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 2: think it was a three game stretch. They lost the

2387
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:05,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs by three. Now that game, the Chiefs were pretty

2388
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:07,120
Speaker 2: much controlling it the whole way. But nonetheless, I mean

2389
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 2: it's a it's a close loss. They lost to your Eagles.

2390
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:13,840
Speaker 2: Remember they dropped a touchdown pass to win the game

2391
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:16,480
Speaker 2: and they lost. And then they lost the to the

2392
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:18,600
Speaker 2: to the Bucks in overtime when one of the running

2393
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:21,920
Speaker 2: backs fumbled. So that they're they're right on the doorstep.

2394
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 2: I like the improvement Bryce Jung made last season. They

2395
02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 2: added more weapons on offense for him in the draft,

2396
02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:28,760
Speaker 2: and I think they've done a good job. But with

2397
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:30,880
Speaker 2: the offensive line the last couple of years of building

2398
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 2: that up to help out Bryce Young. And then their

2399
02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 2: one weakness or one of the weaknesses they had was

2400
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 2: was defense, and they man, they hit that hard in

2401
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 2: free agency in the draft.

2402
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:42,200
Speaker 1: I like their coaching staff. I like the vibe that

2403
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 1: they had. I just I like a lot of things

2404
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:47,840
Speaker 1: about the Panthers Right now, I see it, I thought

2405
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,400
Speaker 1: they should improve it. And so what do you think

2406
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:53,480
Speaker 1: about Bryce, Like you're you think that's real.

2407
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:56,560
Speaker 2: Again, I mean, do I think he's ever gonna be

2408
02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 2: like the best in the league at some point? No,

2409
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 2: I do, I don't. But I think he could be

2410
02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 2: very serviceable, which again is you know serviceable, you know.

2411
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 3: When he made Super Bowl's that way.

2412
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 2: But he can he can win him eight nine, ten

2413
02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:11,720
Speaker 2: games in a given year, I think. But again, that's

2414
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 2: everything works out just perfectly.

2415
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:19,240
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Atlanta where it's all about

2416
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 1: Mike Pennix. Michael Pennix, uh look good, he looked like

2417
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:27,800
Speaker 1: he look comfortable. He's got a big arm. Where do

2418
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 1: you think about the Falcons? And uh so the great

2419
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:32,200
Speaker 1: they got good skill people.

2420
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 2: I'll struggle with Atlanta because I feel like I'm always

2421
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:40,480
Speaker 2: sort of wrong on on them every year. I I

2422
02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 2: like pen X, I like the skill guys. Their offensive

2423
02:05:43,120 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 2: line has some really good pieces that Jon is really good.

2424
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 2: But defensively, man, they just they can't rush the pass.

2425
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:51,960
Speaker 2: I know they try to address that this year with

2426
02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 2: with the draft of free agency, but until I kind

2427
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:56,240
Speaker 2: of see it, I have I just have a concern

2428
02:05:56,280 --> 02:05:59,440
Speaker 2: with it. And so they're sort of a not a

2429
02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 2: staateweight team, but a team I just don't feel great

2430
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 2: or have enough information right now.

2431
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2432
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:09,320
Speaker 1: Uh, well, kinds, there's not much at all about the

2433
02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:13,040
Speaker 1: Saints other it Callimore first. Uh you know, it's just

2434
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 1: takes over first gig and uh you know, I mean

2435
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:21,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's starting, you know at the bottom

2436
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 1: right like this is a complete rebuild.

2437
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 2: It's a complete rebuild. I do wonder, you know, sort

2438
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:31,520
Speaker 2: of how quickly Tyler Shuck plays And then obviously is

2439
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:33,520
Speaker 2: the goal for him to be your starter next year?

2440
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 2: Is there a goal to draft Arch Manning or someone

2441
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:38,880
Speaker 2: else next year? I think that's an interesting dynamic about

2442
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 2: their season.

2443
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 3: I know it's funny because everybody's all talking about Art.

2444
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:45,800
Speaker 1: And comes out well, I was going to ask you

2445
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:50,840
Speaker 1: that because I mean, if I'm a Arch, I'm sticking around.

2446
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:53,200
Speaker 3: Well, you also.

2447
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:55,200
Speaker 2: Don't have to understand that there's so much money now

2448
02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 2: to start and there's no rush at the NFL now

2449
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 2: because you're making so much money in college for fotball

2450
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 2: and you also want to go to the right situation. Now,

2451
02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 2: you might determine that Kellen Moore is the right situation

2452
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 2: for you as if you're he's also no geared to you.

2453
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:12,120
Speaker 2: The first pick overall either it's a very deep quarterback

2454
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:15,760
Speaker 2: class this year in the NFL Sumian college football. But

2455
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:19,280
Speaker 2: you know, there's no I don't think everyone has said

2456
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 2: there's no rush for him to get to the NFL.

2457
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:23,080
Speaker 2: Like the only people that are saying he's going out

2458
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:26,720
Speaker 2: or are just like random the draft people are continuing

2459
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:27,760
Speaker 2: to say he's not coming out.

2460
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 3: Actually yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2461
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean there is a full time this his first

2462
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:37,360
Speaker 1: year being a full time starter. We don't even know

2463
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:40,960
Speaker 1: who he's going to be exactly exactly. Although, man, he

2464
02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 1: should have been on the field by the goal line

2465
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 1: last year. She's sark should have pad on the field.

2466
02:07:48,760 --> 02:07:53,200
Speaker 1: Oh oh, that was a frustrating loss. I know, but

2467
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:55,320
Speaker 1: you sort of have to ride with who got you

2468
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 1: there at that moment. I think, I mean I felt.

2469
02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I art bigger mobile. I mean, and you

2470
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:07,520
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta call something that's going forward. I mean

2471
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 1: I lost, I lost the game. I mean, you were

2472
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 1: in the shadows of the goal line. I agree.

2473
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:13,640
Speaker 3: All right.

2474
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:17,440
Speaker 1: So the team that's the favorite to win the division

2475
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:20,400
Speaker 1: that I think should be Buccaneers.

2476
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 3: Man, they uh, they just do. It's about skilled people.

2477
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: Baker has flourished in Tampa and I'm a huge Bucky

2478
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 1: Irving fan.

2479
02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:32,280
Speaker 3: I love that kid.

2480
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 2: Tampa is uh has a quality that I think is

2481
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 2: maybe undervalued at times. Yes, the Uh they just know

2482
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 2: who they are and they played to that right offensively,

2483
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,560
Speaker 2: now Kristan works being out their left tackle is kind

2484
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:53,120
Speaker 2: of a bummer because that offensive line is top five potential.

2485
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 2: They run the ball, as you mentioned, they have their

2486
02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:58,360
Speaker 2: wide receivers, They get on the ball and in good

2487
02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 2: enough Baker Mayfield plays with himself and does what he

2488
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 2: has to do in that offense, doesn't try to do

2489
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 2: too much right too little. And defensively, they they're they're

2490
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:08,520
Speaker 2: very sound with with Todd Bowles, so it's it's a

2491
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 2: it's a very sound team. I think they're ceiling and

2492
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 2: floor a kind of the same. Like they're just not

2493
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 2: gonna probably lose a ton of games. They're not gonna

2494
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 2: win a ton of games, like I mean by I

2495
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 2: mean by a ton of like over ten and they're

2496
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:20,760
Speaker 2: probably just you know, they are tough out for someone

2497
02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, but I think that they're not you know,

2498
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,000
Speaker 2: they're not making a deep playoff run either.

2499
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

2500
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:30,000
Speaker 1: I I like I think I like it more than

2501
02:09:30,040 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 1: you do. I love their skill, guys, man, I mean like.

2502
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:36,240
Speaker 2: Love them, like how like you think they're going? Like

2503
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,200
Speaker 2: how do you look? How do you love them?

2504
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:42,480
Speaker 3: I love their skill guys. You know what I'm saying,

2505
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:44,440
Speaker 3: like like like as far as like yeah, but I

2506
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 3: think they're a playoff team. I think they wouldn't.

2507
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not. They're not winning. They're not winning

2508
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 1: a road playoff game, right, I mean, I mean, listen

2509
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:54,880
Speaker 1: right now. I mean probably not. But I just think

2510
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:56,280
Speaker 1: they're dangerous.

2511
02:09:57,400 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think they're a dangerous team. I

2512
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:02,080
Speaker 3: where would I rank them if we.

2513
02:10:02,080 --> 02:10:07,640
Speaker 1: Look at rankings, uh power rankings in the NFC? Obviously

2514
02:10:07,720 --> 02:10:12,080
Speaker 1: behind the Eagles, the Lions. I got to see what

2515
02:10:12,160 --> 02:10:14,920
Speaker 1: the vikings are with McCarthy right, Like they could be

2516
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:20,440
Speaker 1: they could be a judge of Commanders, I you know,

2517
02:10:20,680 --> 02:10:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Daniels, but I I.

2518
02:10:24,480 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 3: Don't know.

2519
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:30,200
Speaker 1: I think they're close Packers close Rams.

2520
02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 3: I mean it's Stafford, Helfie, Stafford's healthie. Yeah, you know,

2521
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:37,800
Speaker 3: it's sco.

2522
02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 1: I like, I like Rams fronts front seven seven is awesome,

2523
02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, but I liked him. I think they're well coached.

2524
02:10:48,840 --> 02:10:53,200
Speaker 1: I think they're good. I think they're like they're underrated.

2525
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't you know, they're.

2526
02:10:55,960 --> 02:10:58,120
Speaker 2: Probably probably rated, but yeah, they're not looked at as

2527
02:10:58,120 --> 02:11:00,840
Speaker 2: a contender by anyone, but for the call. That's the thing,

2528
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:03,120
Speaker 2: right they just looked at us like a good division

2529
02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 2: winning team but not not more in that.

2530
02:11:05,080 --> 02:11:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. All right.

2531
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:11,760
Speaker 1: Now let's go to the NFC West. You brought up

2532
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 1: the Rams. Let's start with the Rams, and you know,

2533
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:17,160
Speaker 1: how do you like? I mean, I love them. We

2534
02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:18,880
Speaker 1: talked them about their front their front seventh just a

2535
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 1: minute ago. They that front sevens get legit young, talented.

2536
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:31,200
Speaker 2: So this is interesting. I think the Rams are better

2537
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:34,800
Speaker 2: than the forty nine ers. But the forty nine ers

2538
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,160
Speaker 2: have an easier schedule and probably win the division over

2539
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:40,040
Speaker 2: the Rams. But the Rams will have a deeper postseason run.

2540
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:43,920
Speaker 2: The Rams last year, guys with a very young defense

2541
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 2: and young experienced defense went on the road to Philly

2542
02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:49,800
Speaker 2: and that in that playoff game in the Snow were

2543
02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:51,840
Speaker 2: minus two and turnovers and still had a chance to

2544
02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:52,360
Speaker 2: win the game.

2545
02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, not for Jalen Carter getting pressure in staff.

2546
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 1: It's a legitimately good football team and they're older now.

2547
02:11:59,000 --> 02:11:59,680
Speaker 3: You know you're older.

2548
02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:02,960
Speaker 2: On defense, they got Devanta Adams, you can still play.

2549
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:06,080
Speaker 2: Their offensive line has some concerns with when they're left

2550
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 2: tackle being out I think for a little bit of time,

2551
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 2: but otherwise just like and look, man, I'm gonna bet

2552
02:12:11,160 --> 02:12:15,040
Speaker 2: on Stafford and McVeigh like I'll bet on good coaching

2553
02:12:15,080 --> 02:12:17,320
Speaker 2: and good quarterback play anytime. And those two together when

2554
02:12:17,400 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 2: when saffor it's been healthy, have just won more games

2555
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:20,200
Speaker 2: than not.

2556
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:23,480
Speaker 3: I agree. I think you're right.

2557
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:27,240
Speaker 1: And again I prefaced it earlier with Stafford's health because

2558
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 1: it's everything right, Like you know, he just can't get dinged.

2559
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:33,200
Speaker 2: But the Niners schedule is so easy that it might

2560
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 2: not that like the Rams, it might not matter. The

2561
02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:38,480
Speaker 2: Niners are set up for success because with their schedule.

2562
02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:44,400
Speaker 3: Do you like there's something about them that I don't trust?

2563
02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:47,880
Speaker 3: Who Rams are Niners? Niners?

2564
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:52,160
Speaker 2: Well, because they're a very top heavy team. Their roster,

2565
02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:55,080
Speaker 2: if you look at their roster, it's it's it's very

2566
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:57,280
Speaker 2: very top heavy. So a couple of injuries like last

2567
02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:59,040
Speaker 2: year and they're just gonna go right in the tank.

2568
02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 2: That's why get look look at them that way, because

2569
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:05,400
Speaker 2: they're you know, they're two injuries away from being out

2570
02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:07,240
Speaker 2: of out of it. I mean, they just haven't drafted

2571
02:13:07,320 --> 02:13:09,200
Speaker 2: terribly well. So I just have a lot of depth.

2572
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know again, you know, can you

2573
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:18,480
Speaker 1: count on McCaffrey. Uh, you know, I don't know, you

2574
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:21,840
Speaker 1: lose Debo Pierce all showed that he could play a

2575
02:13:21,880 --> 02:13:27,440
Speaker 1: little bit. But you know, I mean, Deebo, you got

2576
02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:29,520
Speaker 1: a lot out of them. You gotta lot got stuff

2577
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 1: out of him in the run game. He was a

2578
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:34,120
Speaker 1: backbone kind of guy for you for years.

2579
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:37,160
Speaker 2: He does feel like your point, like McCaffrey's not healthy,

2580
02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 2: then what becomes the offense?

2581
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 3: All right, it's pretty good enough.

2582
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:45,240
Speaker 2: To carry everyone, but Trent Williams is back, right, Uh,

2583
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:48,760
Speaker 2: you know Jennings, who's obviously a contract situation, but he's

2584
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:50,160
Speaker 2: he's there, and so's Brent Eye.

2585
02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:53,520
Speaker 1: They're there. So it's a very top heavy, talented team.

2586
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:57,080
Speaker 1: They just have to now figure out obviously, you know,

2587
02:13:57,320 --> 02:13:58,800
Speaker 1: where where where can we find some depth?

2588
02:14:00,160 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 2: What we think about the Seahawks. I just don't like,

2589
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:08,160
Speaker 2: don't own situation. He was in a perfect spot in Minnesota.

2590
02:14:08,720 --> 02:14:11,400
Speaker 2: Now he goes to a team without an offensive line

2591
02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:15,000
Speaker 2: like Minnesota, without the weapons like Minnesota, cold, raining outside.

2592
02:14:16,240 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 2: I just don't see success left for him, do you.

2593
02:14:19,160 --> 02:14:23,920
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I. I am completely with you.

2594
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:26,080
Speaker 1: And it's funny you and I have the same thought

2595
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:31,320
Speaker 1: about the weather, Like everything was perfect for him last

2596
02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:35,680
Speaker 1: year yep, like from the conditions to the team they

2597
02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:42,360
Speaker 1: coached or around him, And I don't see him in Seattle.

2598
02:14:42,440 --> 02:14:44,720
Speaker 1: I think it's a badfit. I'm with you.

2599
02:14:46,240 --> 02:14:47,600
Speaker 3: I Arizona.

2600
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:50,160
Speaker 1: So they're a.

2601
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:54,480
Speaker 2: Team that people seem, I like, seem pretty high on.

2602
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2603
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:58,040
Speaker 1: I oh no, man, I.

2604
02:14:58,000 --> 02:15:03,320
Speaker 2: Don't guess is Coyler Murray gonna be something he hasn't

2605
02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:04,640
Speaker 2: been throughout the same Like you.

2606
02:15:04,600 --> 02:15:06,600
Speaker 3: Don't trust him, You don't trust Kyler.

2607
02:15:06,720 --> 02:15:09,520
Speaker 2: I know Ton's a quarterback that when he starts the

2608
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:11,360
Speaker 2: game hot, he sort of finishes hot. If he starts

2609
02:15:11,360 --> 02:15:13,040
Speaker 2: the game cold, he pretty much just called the rest

2610
02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:15,240
Speaker 2: of the game like it's just not calling to have

2611
02:15:15,280 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 2: in my opinion.

2612
02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:23,800
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. As a quarterback, he never he's never won that.

2613
02:15:26,360 --> 02:15:29,600
Speaker 1: Like if you watch, like you pretty much summed it up,

2614
02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:34,080
Speaker 1: like because when he's off, he just he's games you

2615
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:37,440
Speaker 1: are terrible. Like he'll have games that are just he'll

2616
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:41,160
Speaker 1: look great at times and then he'll look completely awful.

2617
02:15:41,840 --> 02:15:45,160
Speaker 1: And that kills you, correct, It just kills you. If

2618
02:15:45,160 --> 02:15:48,240
Speaker 1: your quarterback is that Madic? Is play?

2619
02:15:48,360 --> 02:15:49,960
Speaker 3: Is that Madic? Yeah?

2620
02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:51,560
Speaker 2: And that's where I think the colonels are right now.

2621
02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:56,200
Speaker 2: I just don't really know. Again, people I trust that

2622
02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:58,200
Speaker 2: are high in Arizona. I just don't see it, man,

2623
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:00,440
Speaker 2: I just or maybe it's gonna see it. How But first,

2624
02:16:00,440 --> 02:16:02,240
Speaker 2: I mean they've sort of been the same position now

2625
02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:03,920
Speaker 2: for a couple of years now with Murray.

2626
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just don't trust them.

2627
02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we see that one the same.

2628
02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:13,200
Speaker 1: All Right, We'll take a look at the AFC coming

2629
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 1: up next. We're the Fellas Jeff Schwartz. I'm Anthony gargan

2630
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:28,640
Speaker 1: Ill hanging right here on Fox Sports Radio. Ah Fellas,

2631
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:37,760
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Garganell right here, Fox Sports Radio. All right,

2632
02:16:37,840 --> 02:16:42,280
Speaker 1: let's go to the AFC and kind of tackle the AFC.

2633
02:16:43,480 --> 02:16:46,879
Speaker 1: Let's start out west, all right, brother, because we talked

2634
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:51,039
Speaker 1: a little bit about it, you are extremely bullish.

2635
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:51,360
Speaker 3: On the Chiefs.

2636
02:16:52,520 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 1: I got to spend some time with our friend Steve

2637
02:16:55,600 --> 02:17:01,039
Speaker 1: Spagnolo the last couple of weeks, and you know, he

2638
02:17:01,160 --> 02:17:04,720
Speaker 1: was talking about his defense and you know, when you

2639
02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:08,200
Speaker 1: have a coaching staff like Andy Reid and Spags and

2640
02:17:08,959 --> 02:17:11,920
Speaker 1: you know you have a veteran staff that's been together,

2641
02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:13,480
Speaker 1: they're just winners man.

2642
02:17:13,480 --> 02:17:14,280
Speaker 3: They know how to do.

2643
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:18,360
Speaker 2: It, know how to prepare, know how to play, know

2644
02:17:18,400 --> 02:17:20,160
Speaker 2: how to win those big moments as we've seen over

2645
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:23,440
Speaker 2: the years. So I think there's no changing cans. I

2646
02:17:23,440 --> 02:17:25,760
Speaker 2: actually think that the roster's better than we saw last season.

2647
02:17:26,520 --> 02:17:28,240
Speaker 2: And I'm still pretty hout of the Chiefs are used

2648
02:17:28,280 --> 02:17:29,000
Speaker 2: to have the Chiefs.

2649
02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am, I am.

2650
02:17:31,440 --> 02:17:34,520
Speaker 1: I I liked I think that division is a great

2651
02:17:34,520 --> 02:17:38,720
Speaker 1: division because I like the Chargers a ton, and I

2652
02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:41,959
Speaker 1: think the Broncos are good. You know, you got you

2653
02:17:42,040 --> 02:17:46,240
Speaker 1: got three great coaches in that division with Andy Harbaugh

2654
02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:48,600
Speaker 1: and Peyton. You got Carroll now though too.

2655
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, so you're just not ready yet.

2656
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:57,119
Speaker 2: No, when our previous divisions, I it's kind of simple

2657
02:17:57,240 --> 02:18:01,080
Speaker 2: where if you look at the divisions, every year, the

2658
02:18:01,200 --> 02:18:05,000
Speaker 2: team with the best quarterback wins the division. It's kind

2659
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:07,920
Speaker 2: of it's it's like a it's not and it's not

2660
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:11,880
Speaker 2: every single time, right, it's the time that's the best

2661
02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:15,720
Speaker 2: quarterback in the division is still Patrick Mahomes and he

2662
02:18:15,840 --> 02:18:17,800
Speaker 2: heard all off season about how they can't have a

2663
02:18:17,800 --> 02:18:19,800
Speaker 2: ball deep anymore and how he's not the same player

2664
02:18:19,800 --> 02:18:22,280
Speaker 2: anymore and the Super Bowl and blah blah blah blah.

2665
02:18:22,440 --> 02:18:25,880
Speaker 2: I have to imagine that there's a fire for Patrick

2666
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:29,200
Speaker 2: Mahomes this offense after what happened, and I just am

2667
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:32,440
Speaker 2: not going to bet against Mahomes being angry.

2668
02:18:32,920 --> 02:18:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the ridiculousness with that the radio host calling

2669
02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:42,360
Speaker 1: him fat, which is like, come on, dude, he's not

2670
02:18:42,760 --> 02:18:45,120
Speaker 1: He's not fat, Like, come on, I know, I know

2671
02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:49,840
Speaker 1: it was so disrespectful. It was ridiculous, but I you know,

2672
02:18:49,959 --> 02:18:53,320
Speaker 1: to your point, you could totally see him getting.

2673
02:18:53,080 --> 02:18:57,280
Speaker 3: Pissed and like all right, let's go and and and

2674
02:18:57,360 --> 02:18:59,840
Speaker 3: you'll play that card and he's great.

2675
02:18:59,640 --> 02:19:01,400
Speaker 1: At a Oh yeah, I'm motivating guy.

2676
02:19:01,480 --> 02:19:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, so I could say it.

2677
02:19:04,440 --> 02:19:04,879
Speaker 1: I do.

2678
02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:07,080
Speaker 3: I do like the Chargers a ton though, I I

2679
02:19:07,280 --> 02:19:07,880
Speaker 3: I really do.

2680
02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:08,480
Speaker 1: I Yeah.

2681
02:19:08,480 --> 02:19:10,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's still questions that at sort

2682
02:19:10,760 --> 02:19:14,680
Speaker 2: of center, left guard, there are still questions to it.

2683
02:19:14,680 --> 02:19:16,400
Speaker 1: Like I think there's still questions fair enough.

2684
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:19,200
Speaker 2: At wide receiver, right, like, yeah, they dropped a couple

2685
02:19:19,240 --> 02:19:23,000
Speaker 2: of guys, but you know, who's gonna who's gonna.

2686
02:19:22,720 --> 02:19:25,720
Speaker 3: Be that that's the truth. But that's great. But who's

2687
02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:27,920
Speaker 3: the second guy? Yeah, yeah, those are.

2688
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:30,960
Speaker 2: Fair questions to ask. And then again like in those

2689
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:34,039
Speaker 2: big moments again I'm I'm a pro Herber guy. You

2690
02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:36,240
Speaker 2: know what, we got to see some more right in

2691
02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:37,080
Speaker 2: those bigger ns.

2692
02:19:37,360 --> 02:19:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we think about Denver because Peyton did a

2693
02:19:41,879 --> 02:19:43,040
Speaker 3: great job last year.

2694
02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:45,840
Speaker 1: He's done a great job with with you know, bringing

2695
02:19:45,879 --> 02:19:50,240
Speaker 1: along Boat Nicks. He saw something in him and uh,

2696
02:19:50,320 --> 02:19:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, look, they became formidable at the towards the

2697
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:53,959
Speaker 1: end of the year.

2698
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:58,680
Speaker 2: I think just a very like a very quality team,

2699
02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:02,040
Speaker 2: a team that defensively is going to be one of

2700
02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:03,840
Speaker 2: the best in the NFL. They added to that to

2701
02:20:03,920 --> 02:20:05,959
Speaker 2: that in the draft or as we know with with

2702
02:20:06,040 --> 02:20:09,800
Speaker 2: the Baron signing, and then offensively, you know, it's it's

2703
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:12,000
Speaker 2: where do you go with Bois in the year two?

2704
02:20:12,680 --> 02:20:14,280
Speaker 2: What do you what do you allow him to do

2705
02:20:14,360 --> 02:20:16,160
Speaker 2: now that he's had a little bit of seasoning, right,

2706
02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:18,160
Speaker 2: what do you allow him to do now that he's

2707
02:20:18,160 --> 02:20:20,560
Speaker 2: had the opportunity to play one year in the NFL?

2708
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:22,680
Speaker 2: Do we take the rate, do we kind of take

2709
02:20:22,720 --> 02:20:24,520
Speaker 2: a little bit of the restructor playing off and let.

2710
02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:25,400
Speaker 1: Him do a little bit more.

2711
02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:28,560
Speaker 2: What is what is bonis in year two? It's pretty

2712
02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:31,560
Speaker 2: fascinating to me. I think Knicks can can I mean

2713
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:33,119
Speaker 2: is it is good?

2714
02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:33,440
Speaker 3: Right?

2715
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:35,040
Speaker 1: Like? What what? What?

2716
02:20:35,040 --> 02:20:36,240
Speaker 3: What more can you get from him?

2717
02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:36,520
Speaker 1: Now?

2718
02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? My only thing is I'm just not sure of

2719
02:20:42,440 --> 02:20:43,160
Speaker 3: the weapons.

2720
02:20:43,600 --> 02:20:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know they added Ingram I like Sutton,

2721
02:20:48,200 --> 02:20:49,560
Speaker 1: is he a true number one?

2722
02:20:51,760 --> 02:20:52,720
Speaker 3: Uh?

2723
02:20:53,240 --> 02:20:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean do you need to.

2724
02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:58,240
Speaker 3: Have a true number one? I mean otherwise you're the

2725
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:01,280
Speaker 3: Packers and you get a bunch of two's. Yeah, I

2726
02:21:01,280 --> 02:21:02,960
Speaker 3: mean you need to go to guy.

2727
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:04,800
Speaker 2: And maybe that's that's what you're talking about, like in

2728
02:21:04,840 --> 02:21:06,680
Speaker 2: those in those must have moments, you would like to

2729
02:21:06,680 --> 02:21:09,360
Speaker 2: have a go to guy. But I don't view that

2730
02:21:09,400 --> 02:21:12,400
Speaker 2: as as that much of a hindrance to the Bronco

2731
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:13,280
Speaker 2: success this season.

2732
02:21:13,320 --> 02:21:15,200
Speaker 1: And I mean they're gonna run the ball. They're gonna

2733
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:19,240
Speaker 1: be a run heavy team, Harvey. They'll go to Dobbins

2734
02:21:20,080 --> 02:21:23,640
Speaker 1: and you know they'll use Nicks uh so.

2735
02:21:23,879 --> 02:21:25,760
Speaker 3: And they're gonna they're gonna grind you out.

2736
02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:29,080
Speaker 1: Knicks Knicks running the ball much better.

2737
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:30,480
Speaker 3: We thought that we give them credit for lost.

2738
02:21:30,520 --> 02:21:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, they're they're but they're gonna be interesting.

2739
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:40,400
Speaker 1: I think it goes Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Raiders in that division.

2740
02:21:40,520 --> 02:21:42,000
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. Let's

2741
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:47,440
Speaker 1: go to the South, all right, Texans, what do you think?

2742
02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:50,000
Speaker 1: You know you have revamped o line.

2743
02:21:51,520 --> 02:21:54,480
Speaker 2: The old one is pretty bad still. Yeah, so that

2744
02:21:54,600 --> 02:21:57,040
Speaker 2: that does really concern me. It's probably one of the

2745
02:21:57,080 --> 02:22:01,960
Speaker 2: worst in the NFL. And if it is, even though

2746
02:22:02,080 --> 02:22:05,600
Speaker 2: I do really think Stroud we'll take. We'll kind of

2747
02:22:05,720 --> 02:22:08,720
Speaker 2: pop back this year after a really tough year last

2748
02:22:08,760 --> 02:22:14,720
Speaker 2: year where uh schematically and it just functionally with that offense,

2749
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:17,240
Speaker 2: it really wasn't set up for success. And this year

2750
02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:18,720
Speaker 2: I think we'll have a little bit more of that.

2751
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:20,840
Speaker 2: It'll be set up for success a little bit better

2752
02:22:20,879 --> 02:22:23,280
Speaker 2: this season. But the offensive line is a huge now.

2753
02:22:23,320 --> 02:22:25,680
Speaker 2: The wide receivers are back healthy. I think strids are

2754
02:22:25,760 --> 02:22:27,920
Speaker 2: very good still. So like you know, there's that all

2755
02:22:27,959 --> 02:22:32,280
Speaker 2: those pieces are there. We know that that the defense

2756
02:22:32,320 --> 02:22:34,359
Speaker 2: is going to be good right with with Damiko Ryans

2757
02:22:34,879 --> 02:22:38,720
Speaker 2: easy division, so's there's a really opportunity. I remember they

2758
02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:40,560
Speaker 2: were a playoff team last year. We talked about like

2759
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:43,039
Speaker 2: like they weren't a playoff teams. They were a playoff

2760
02:22:43,040 --> 02:22:43,680
Speaker 2: team last season.

2761
02:22:44,959 --> 02:22:47,120
Speaker 3: And the receivers went down, correct, and.

2762
02:22:47,120 --> 02:22:49,000
Speaker 2: They're and they're back healthy, so that that's a huge

2763
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:52,039
Speaker 2: bonus for them. And again, I want to see the

2764
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:55,000
Speaker 2: functionality of this offense, right with with now that you

2765
02:22:55,160 --> 02:23:03,440
Speaker 2: have new new OC and new new sort of vision,

2766
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:05,800
Speaker 2: what does the offense look like?

2767
02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:06,200
Speaker 1: Now?

2768
02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to say, yeah, well Stravo cluck now

2769
02:23:10,760 --> 02:23:12,640
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, And.

2770
02:23:12,640 --> 02:23:16,160
Speaker 1: Look you got a lot of new faces on that line, right,

2771
02:23:16,320 --> 02:23:19,040
Speaker 1: so let's see how that comes together. If it's a

2772
02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:24,320
Speaker 1: it just can't be a disaster. No, But I mean

2773
02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:27,920
Speaker 1: it's even cam Robinson, you like him.

2774
02:23:28,240 --> 02:23:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just been you know, he's been wandering since

2775
02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:32,440
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville got rid of it, right.

2776
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:34,160
Speaker 6: You know.

2777
02:23:34,680 --> 02:23:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if if Houston's their best version of their

2778
02:23:39,760 --> 02:23:44,800
Speaker 1: offensive line, I mean they're probably still like the twentieth

2779
02:23:44,800 --> 02:23:45,800
Speaker 1: best offensive line.

2780
02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:47,240
Speaker 3: It's not great, you know.

2781
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:49,640
Speaker 2: Like how that's not that you don't win a lot

2782
02:23:49,640 --> 02:23:53,440
Speaker 2: of Super Bowls that way, right, Yeah, I mean that's

2783
02:23:53,440 --> 02:23:54,640
Speaker 2: just that's just the truth of it.

2784
02:23:55,000 --> 02:23:57,320
Speaker 3: Yep, yeap, that is the.

2785
02:23:57,280 --> 02:24:02,560
Speaker 1: Truth Tennessee is about cam Ward. When when we see

2786
02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:05,960
Speaker 1: cam Ward, well, immediately I mean I think there's I mean,

2787
02:24:06,120 --> 02:24:09,360
Speaker 1: Lews has heard and out for the year. I mean

2788
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:11,080
Speaker 1: cam Ward. I mean, I know they haven't named in

2789
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:13,520
Speaker 1: the starter yet, but he's very clearly going to be

2790
02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:18,120
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback this season. They're they're just they're very

2791
02:24:18,160 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 1: far away talent wise from competing regularly in the National

2792
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:25,320
Speaker 1: Football League. Yeah, it's it's interesting because you look at

2793
02:24:25,320 --> 02:24:29,119
Speaker 1: them and it's a complete rebuild, it's a complete redound.

2794
02:24:31,360 --> 02:24:36,160
Speaker 1: I look at cam and I don't know, he's interesting

2795
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:38,520
Speaker 1: because I don't know how to feel about him, and

2796
02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how good a spot it is for

2797
02:24:40,400 --> 02:24:40,800
Speaker 1: him either.

2798
02:24:41,480 --> 02:24:44,520
Speaker 2: He's like the most under talked about first round or whatever.

2799
02:24:44,600 --> 02:24:45,080
Speaker 3: Pie.

2800
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:47,800
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, number one pick, not first round pick.

2801
02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:51,080
Speaker 2: I think that you know, we we The tennis situation

2802
02:24:51,200 --> 02:24:52,840
Speaker 2: just isn't great. I think a lot of people look

2803
02:24:52,879 --> 02:24:54,240
Speaker 2: at it and think, like, you know, year one is

2804
02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:55,800
Speaker 2: gonna be hard, So how much you're going to focus

2805
02:24:55,840 --> 02:24:58,040
Speaker 2: on what he'll be in year one? It's my guess

2806
02:24:58,040 --> 02:24:59,960
Speaker 2: of how of why he's not talked about very much.

2807
02:25:00,320 --> 02:25:02,360
Speaker 2: Plus like the Sander staying kind of sucked up all

2808
02:25:02,360 --> 02:25:07,120
Speaker 2: the energy yea room. Yeah, so I'm again, I'm and

2809
02:25:07,160 --> 02:25:08,760
Speaker 2: the weapon. I mean's just it's just not a great

2810
02:25:08,760 --> 02:25:10,560
Speaker 2: team around him. It's not on a situation where you

2811
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:12,680
Speaker 2: walk in and you're good immediately. I think everyone looks

2812
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:15,080
Speaker 2: at it as a as a slow build for him.

2813
02:25:15,320 --> 02:25:18,000
Speaker 2: I think because of that, it's just not talked about

2814
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:20,280
Speaker 2: as much. Plus, look there they're like they're in the South.

2815
02:25:20,320 --> 02:25:22,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the teams of the South just aren't discussed

2816
02:25:22,959 --> 02:25:25,800
Speaker 2: like the teams in the North are or just you know,

2817
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:28,920
Speaker 2: sort of football royalty around around the NFL.

2818
02:25:28,920 --> 02:25:31,240
Speaker 1: They're not just not talked about in the same way. Yeah,

2819
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:35,160
Speaker 1: and that's fair and foul that that's what it is. Though, Well,

2820
02:25:35,879 --> 02:25:39,560
Speaker 1: let's go to Jacksonville and for that matter, Trevor Lawrence.

2821
02:25:40,480 --> 02:25:44,240
Speaker 1: And you know, we keep wondering when are we going

2822
02:25:44,280 --> 02:25:47,840
Speaker 1: to see Trevor Lawrence. We saw the promise early and

2823
02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:49,680
Speaker 1: he just has not played well.

2824
02:25:50,879 --> 02:25:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious what we see from this year. Look,

2825
02:25:53,360 --> 02:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Liam Cone has really worked wonders, you know, with with

2826
02:25:57,080 --> 02:25:59,840
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield and really with ye Rams and when. Yeah,

2827
02:26:00,720 --> 02:26:02,320
Speaker 2: so there really is sort of no excuse for him

2828
02:26:02,360 --> 02:26:07,039
Speaker 2: not to play well right this season. But and I

2829
02:26:07,080 --> 02:26:16,039
Speaker 2: think too, like if there's no connection to the organization,

2830
02:26:16,480 --> 02:26:18,320
Speaker 2: when you have a new general manager and head coach,

2831
02:26:18,760 --> 02:26:20,240
Speaker 2: so you have you have a new general manager, there

2832
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:22,440
Speaker 2: and a new head coach. So if he doesn't play well,

2833
02:26:22,879 --> 02:26:25,120
Speaker 2: I could see the Jacksonville just after this year, I

2834
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:28,560
Speaker 2: finally new a new quarter Yeah, like, certainly it's a

2835
02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:29,680
Speaker 2: big year for Trevor Lawrence.

2836
02:26:29,959 --> 02:26:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not. You're not married to him, so.

2837
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:34,039
Speaker 1: They're not married to him, absolutely not.

2838
02:26:34,640 --> 02:26:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I can you figure out what happened? Dude?

2839
02:26:39,600 --> 02:26:42,879
Speaker 1: He's a guy I thought. I mean, you know, I

2840
02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:46,360
Speaker 1: thought he was the top ten quarterback. I could move,

2841
02:26:46,480 --> 02:26:49,359
Speaker 1: could make every throw. What happened?

2842
02:26:53,360 --> 02:26:57,760
Speaker 2: He's had sub optimal coaching, but certainly possible that he

2843
02:26:57,959 --> 02:26:59,800
Speaker 2: just isn't the guy we thought he was.

2844
02:27:01,640 --> 02:27:06,039
Speaker 3: But we saw we saw good quarterback, like like we

2845
02:27:06,080 --> 02:27:09,960
Speaker 3: saw quarterback play. We've seen that lead us to believe

2846
02:27:10,280 --> 02:27:11,240
Speaker 3: like the facts of.

2847
02:27:11,240 --> 02:27:14,360
Speaker 2: It at times, but not not consistently though, and that

2848
02:27:14,360 --> 02:27:16,400
Speaker 2: that that's part of playing the sport at high level.

2849
02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:18,640
Speaker 3: It's consistency. No, I I get that.

2850
02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:22,760
Speaker 1: I I just come looking for something tangible because I'm like,

2851
02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:25,640
Speaker 1: my eyes can't deceive me that bad. Like when you

2852
02:27:25,640 --> 02:27:30,440
Speaker 1: see a guy that with skill, Uh, you know, I

2853
02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:33,800
Speaker 1: guess it show it's funny. You know, Carson Wentz retired this.

2854
02:27:33,800 --> 02:27:38,360
Speaker 3: Year, right, I think too official Yeah, dude, when he

2855
02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:42,040
Speaker 3: like his first two years, right, he was good as

2856
02:27:42,080 --> 02:27:45,800
Speaker 3: a rookie. His second year before he gets hurt against

2857
02:27:45,800 --> 02:27:46,759
Speaker 3: the Rams.

2858
02:27:47,520 --> 02:27:52,200
Speaker 1: He was great. Yeah, he was great, Like he big,

2859
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:55,320
Speaker 1: had a really good arm, knew what he was looking

2860
02:27:55,360 --> 02:28:01,160
Speaker 1: at mobile and then he us fell off the cliff

2861
02:28:02,080 --> 02:28:05,800
Speaker 1: and after that injury and Fowles won the Super Bowl,

2862
02:28:06,080 --> 02:28:09,199
Speaker 1: the dude was never the same. And no matter where

2863
02:28:09,240 --> 02:28:13,720
Speaker 1: he went, he was just awful. I mean that's that's football, though, right.

2864
02:28:13,680 --> 02:28:18,879
Speaker 2: Like comes in that situation, circumstance and then execution those

2865
02:28:18,879 --> 02:28:21,240
Speaker 2: big moments and something when you lose it, and and

2866
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:22,840
Speaker 2: Carson went to one of the guys that very clearly

2867
02:28:22,840 --> 02:28:24,959
Speaker 2: like it, it just doesn't come.

2868
02:28:24,800 --> 02:28:25,560
Speaker 3: Back for easily.

2869
02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:28,240
Speaker 1: Well, that's why it kind of worries me about Lawrence,

2870
02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:31,480
Speaker 1: Like it's see, not that he's going to wenz route,

2871
02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:35,240
Speaker 1: but like arcing towards that or you know, looking towards

2872
02:28:35,240 --> 02:28:39,400
Speaker 1: that where you have all these high expectations and then

2873
02:28:39,560 --> 02:28:43,440
Speaker 1: he's just not I mean, we're close to them.

2874
02:28:43,640 --> 02:28:47,560
Speaker 2: It's fair to expect that that's where he's trending ish off.

2875
02:28:47,600 --> 02:28:48,600
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen can't.

2876
02:28:48,360 --> 02:28:54,480
Speaker 1: Fix them, yeah, wild, And that's that's that's fair to say. Cults.

2877
02:28:56,959 --> 02:28:59,039
Speaker 2: I mean, what what are we doing? I mean, Daniel

2878
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:02,360
Speaker 2: Jones are Richardson? I I don't know, you pick your

2879
02:29:02,360 --> 02:29:05,840
Speaker 2: poison here. I just think that they they mismanaged Anthony

2880
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:12,160
Speaker 2: Record so poorly because like think about you know, he's

2881
02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:14,440
Speaker 2: you drafted a quarterback who needed reps and you just

2882
02:29:14,480 --> 02:29:17,160
Speaker 2: didn't give him the reps because.

2883
02:29:16,920 --> 02:29:18,840
Speaker 1: Do you remember, like they benched him last year very

2884
02:29:18,840 --> 02:29:23,880
Speaker 1: early for John who am not good, and then and

2885
02:29:23,920 --> 02:29:26,880
Speaker 1: then he's now hurt this year to and you're in

2886
02:29:26,959 --> 02:29:30,920
Speaker 1: camp like you've wasted these opportunities for him to learn

2887
02:29:30,959 --> 02:29:32,920
Speaker 1: and grow into the position, which is what you drafted

2888
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:37,480
Speaker 1: him knowing you had to do, yes, and they just didn't.

2889
02:29:37,480 --> 02:29:38,240
Speaker 3: They didn't do any of it.

2890
02:29:38,280 --> 02:29:42,920
Speaker 2: They just it's to me, it's it's bad process, dude.

2891
02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Uh we'll come take quick t come

2892
02:29:47,080 --> 02:29:54,240
Speaker 1: back and uh let's hit the North Burrow Lamar, it'll

2893
02:29:54,320 --> 02:29:57,680
Speaker 1: be vision. Yeah, it's gonna be fun to talk about now,

2894
02:29:57,879 --> 02:30:00,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So we'll get it to all that coming

2895
02:30:00,400 --> 02:30:04,119
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2896
02:30:04,160 --> 02:30:14,720
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2897
02:30:14,800 --> 02:30:20,240
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2898
02:30:20,320 --> 02:30:25,320
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2899
02:30:25,640 --> 02:30:28,600
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02:30:28,600 --> 02:30:31,440
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2901
02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:36,280
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2902
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2905
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2906
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:55,959
Speaker 1: All right, my brother, let's quickly go to the North

2907
02:30:56,040 --> 02:30:59,200
Speaker 1: while we have time. And it's a great division. It's

2908
02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:04,320
Speaker 1: a fun division. It's going to be really interesting. Obviously,

2909
02:31:04,360 --> 02:31:08,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens are the favorite, and you know, can Cincinnati

2910
02:31:08,720 --> 02:31:09,400
Speaker 1: get over the hup.

2911
02:31:09,480 --> 02:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Let's talk about those two teams first.

2912
02:31:12,280 --> 02:31:15,760
Speaker 2: The Ravens are studies that come man, no question. I

2913
02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:18,880
Speaker 2: think a little bit offensive line, uh, you know, always

2914
02:31:18,920 --> 02:31:21,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver probably can just continue to get better.

2915
02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:23,840
Speaker 3: But otherwise, I mean, they're they're dude.

2916
02:31:24,040 --> 02:31:27,680
Speaker 2: There's a quality to not losing games, and they don't

2917
02:31:27,720 --> 02:31:30,480
Speaker 2: lose games like it's a it's a quality that they have,

2918
02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:34,720
Speaker 2: and I they're going to win their ten to twelve games. Man,

2919
02:31:34,959 --> 02:31:36,800
Speaker 2: what's what the Ravens do? I have no question sports

2920
02:31:36,800 --> 02:31:39,200
Speaker 2: about about what they did. I saw something that was

2921
02:31:39,240 --> 02:31:40,240
Speaker 2: pretty wild the other day.

2922
02:31:40,320 --> 02:31:46,120
Speaker 3: See you know dv OA right, I love v away. Sure.

2923
02:31:47,040 --> 02:31:53,800
Speaker 2: The rate the Bills and Ravens from twenty twenty to

2924
02:31:53,840 --> 02:31:56,360
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, so that's actually beat five seasons, right,

2925
02:31:56,400 --> 02:31:59,119
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, two, twenty three, twenty fours, five years

2926
02:31:59,400 --> 02:32:01,840
Speaker 2: they have They both of those teams are one and

2927
02:32:01,959 --> 02:32:05,040
Speaker 2: two and the highest d v oas over five years

2928
02:32:05,080 --> 02:32:06,000
Speaker 2: without Super Bowl win.

2929
02:32:07,000 --> 02:32:07,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

2930
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:11,240
Speaker 2: And it's basically just a Kansaity Chiefs stuff, right, yeah? Yeah,

2931
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:13,959
Speaker 2: So how what do you do to get ready to

2932
02:32:13,959 --> 02:32:17,680
Speaker 2: play Kansas City in the postseason? That's That's what Baltimore's

2933
02:32:17,720 --> 02:32:18,720
Speaker 2: regular season is about.

2934
02:32:18,920 --> 02:32:21,240
Speaker 3: That's it is it nuts.

2935
02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:27,039
Speaker 1: And then nuts all that success, it's about what it's

2936
02:32:27,080 --> 02:32:27,560
Speaker 1: just about?

2937
02:32:27,600 --> 02:32:32,320
Speaker 3: That? Oh man, amazing all right?

2938
02:32:33,080 --> 02:32:38,440
Speaker 1: Uh? I look at Cincinnati and Joe was just terrific.

2939
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:43,440
Speaker 1: Borrow is just just Christy, right, It's just fantastic. Where

2940
02:32:43,480 --> 02:32:48,320
Speaker 1: are they right? Where are they wasted? Great years?

2941
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:50,880
Speaker 2: So they got Jamar Stewart in the building. Yesterday, which

2942
02:32:50,920 --> 02:32:53,600
Speaker 2: is good. The rookie of the rookie Henderson obviously still

2943
02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:57,040
Speaker 2: dealing with a little bit of a holdouts.

2944
02:32:56,480 --> 02:32:58,520
Speaker 1: Or it's not, he's not there right now.

2945
02:33:00,120 --> 02:33:03,920
Speaker 2: But you know, they have a young defense that needs

2946
02:33:04,000 --> 02:33:05,920
Speaker 2: to protect the dance. While they went with out Golden

2947
02:33:05,920 --> 02:33:08,920
Speaker 2: as their offensive coordinator, yeah to the defense coordinator from

2948
02:33:09,360 --> 02:33:12,680
Speaker 2: Notre Dame but was previously with Cincinnati. It's developing those

2949
02:33:12,760 --> 02:33:16,800
Speaker 2: guys on defense. What does concern me, still continues to

2950
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:19,160
Speaker 2: concern me, is their offensive line is just not good.

2951
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:24,760
Speaker 2: And I know Joe is incredible. It's not an anti

2952
02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:30,160
Speaker 2: Joe thing, but it's hard to sustain success year over

2953
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:33,000
Speaker 2: year with a bad offensive line. I mean look again,

2954
02:33:33,040 --> 02:33:33,760
Speaker 2: like look at Louis.

2955
02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:35,480
Speaker 3: It isn't an amazing you have that.

2956
02:33:35,840 --> 02:33:39,760
Speaker 1: You have that quarterback and that and behind that oh line,

2957
02:33:39,879 --> 02:33:41,080
Speaker 1: it's still amazing to me.

2958
02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, I hate to be the dead

2959
02:33:43,760 --> 02:33:48,480
Speaker 2: horse here, but talk about the Eagles, right, the Chiefs

2960
02:33:48,520 --> 02:33:50,240
Speaker 2: for the most part, I mean last year obviously the

2961
02:33:50,280 --> 02:33:51,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl was bad, but for the most part, they've

2962
02:33:51,920 --> 02:33:54,960
Speaker 2: had good offensive lines. The Lions, the Ravens, the Bills

2963
02:33:55,000 --> 02:33:57,080
Speaker 2: offensive line this year is really one of the best

2964
02:33:57,360 --> 02:34:01,280
Speaker 2: in the sport and the Bengals are not. And so

2965
02:34:01,959 --> 02:34:05,000
Speaker 2: that I mean that has to concern you a Bengals fan.

2966
02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah no, in a big way.

2967
02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:14,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's go out to Saint Vincent's College in Pennsylvania.

2968
02:34:14,200 --> 02:34:18,760
Speaker 1: What do you make What do you make of the Rogers?

2969
02:34:19,400 --> 02:34:22,959
Speaker 3: Steelers? Do you have that final act?

2970
02:34:24,680 --> 02:34:27,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think he's as bad as people want

2971
02:34:27,760 --> 02:34:29,200
Speaker 2: him to be, but it's not good enough to do

2972
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:33,600
Speaker 2: much damage this year in Pittsburgh, right right, it's a

2973
02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:36,560
Speaker 2: this is a very boomer bust team this year. They

2974
02:34:36,680 --> 02:34:41,200
Speaker 2: are because of their age on defense especially, And I

2975
02:34:41,240 --> 02:34:45,120
Speaker 2: guess the thing I struggle with with Pittsburgh is the

2976
02:34:45,240 --> 02:34:47,080
Speaker 2: end game, Like it's your end game just to make

2977
02:34:47,080 --> 02:34:49,040
Speaker 2: the postseason again and just sort of like hope that

2978
02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:51,240
Speaker 2: you're good enough, I guess, to do anything more than

2979
02:34:51,240 --> 02:34:53,800
Speaker 2: what you've done the last eight seasons. Like what's the

2980
02:34:53,879 --> 02:34:55,560
Speaker 2: goal this year? The goal for me should have been

2981
02:34:55,959 --> 02:34:57,440
Speaker 2: to sort of rebuild on the fly, and they just

2982
02:34:57,480 --> 02:34:59,440
Speaker 2: didn't do that. I don't like their problems.

2983
02:34:59,520 --> 02:35:01,720
Speaker 3: Do you think that that's that's what they're doing? Like

2984
02:35:02,120 --> 02:35:05,840
Speaker 3: next year they have Next year they have they host

2985
02:35:05,879 --> 02:35:08,400
Speaker 3: the draft. They're like twelve draft picks yeah, right, and

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Speaker 3: and it's a it's a better quarterback class, sure, but

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Speaker 3: to ensure yourself the best opportunity for quarterback, you should

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02:35:17,400 --> 02:35:18,599
Speaker 3: have been bad this season.

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Speaker 2: And that's not what they're doing. So they have to

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02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:25,360
Speaker 2: trade up to get a probably to get a quarterback

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02:35:25,400 --> 02:35:28,600
Speaker 2: they want, is what I guess. And you can do that.

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Speaker 1: It's possible because no guarantee someone's gonna trade with you.

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02:35:32,280 --> 02:35:37,160
Speaker 3: No, but you got a lot of ammunition. You're you're

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02:35:37,160 --> 02:35:38,160
Speaker 3: gonna be aggressive.

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02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:42,760
Speaker 1: You got a foundation around, like once you get the quarterback,

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02:35:43,600 --> 02:35:45,520
Speaker 1: you know again you're gonna get the right one and everything.

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02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:50,440
Speaker 1: But if you get the quarterback, you still have a foundation. Sure,

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02:35:50,480 --> 02:35:51,320
Speaker 1: a rookie deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is like who okay, so who

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02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:56,720
Speaker 2: are you found? What's your foundation and offense with a

3001
02:35:56,760 --> 02:36:00,000
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback? It's is DK Metcalf and Calvin Austin and

3002
02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:02,120
Speaker 2: and and some of the young offensive linemen there I

3003
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:04,680
Speaker 2: think are going to be good, Okay, I mean it

3004
02:36:04,840 --> 02:36:06,880
Speaker 2: is Johnny Smith. Part of that foundation is frying with.

3005
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Speaker 2: I mean there's again there's question marks I think about

3006
02:36:08,879 --> 02:36:11,360
Speaker 2: like what does it actually look like? As for what

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02:36:11,400 --> 02:36:13,160
Speaker 2: like what does your foundation actually look like?

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02:36:13,440 --> 02:36:15,280
Speaker 3: Well, and I think they'll take it this year.

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02:36:15,680 --> 02:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Defensively, they're older, but I think this year they're gonna

3010
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:21,120
Speaker 1: look at it and go, all right, you know, this

3011
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:24,160
Speaker 1: is kind of who we like, and then how we'll

3012
02:36:24,280 --> 02:36:27,760
Speaker 1: kind of build it with a young quarterback. You're giving

3013
02:36:27,800 --> 02:36:29,440
Speaker 1: a lot, You're giving a lot of a lot of

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02:36:29,440 --> 02:36:30,920
Speaker 1: faith here, a lot of trust.

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02:36:31,080 --> 02:36:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, listen, do I think they're a

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02:36:33,040 --> 02:36:33,959
Speaker 3: playoff team? Though?

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02:36:34,760 --> 02:36:36,680
Speaker 1: Do I you know, do I think they even win?

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02:36:38,080 --> 02:36:39,840
Speaker 1: You know, you know, they may not win. They're probably

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02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:42,120
Speaker 1: not gonna win more than eight games. You're a tough schedule.

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02:36:42,879 --> 02:36:47,440
Speaker 1: The back part of your schedule is nasty. So but

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02:36:47,560 --> 02:36:50,039
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm looking at it and I'm going

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02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:52,280
Speaker 1: I think this is their mindset.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get into their mindset.

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02:36:54,959 --> 02:36:58,320
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, their mindset is I think if everything works right,

3025
02:36:58,720 --> 02:37:00,480
Speaker 2: we're going to hit a home run with all this stuff.

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02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:03,320
Speaker 2: I just it feels unlikely for it to work, right,

3027
02:37:03,640 --> 02:37:04,760
Speaker 2: That's my that's my point.

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02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean their schedule is pretty nasty. You see

3029
02:37:07,959 --> 02:37:09,080
Speaker 3: you see these schedules.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, they're playing a tough division. That

3031
02:37:11,520 --> 02:37:12,520
Speaker 2: makes it even tougher, you.

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02:37:12,440 --> 02:37:17,359
Speaker 1: Know, right, right right right, tough division and the schedule

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02:37:17,560 --> 02:37:20,480
Speaker 1: is is just it's just a beast, so, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many gates, you know, And again

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Speaker 1: I don't know how. You know, I think you're right

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02:37:25,440 --> 02:37:27,760
Speaker 1: in that Roger is going to be better. You just

3037
02:37:27,800 --> 02:37:29,720
Speaker 1: got to figure out, you know, how competitive they're going

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02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:32,560
Speaker 1: to be. And then in the East because we're running

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Speaker 1: out of time.

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Speaker 3: But in the.

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02:37:33,320 --> 02:37:38,480
Speaker 1: East it's it's Buffalo man, It's it's Sean, It's McDermott

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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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02:37:40,720 --> 02:37:43,560
Speaker 2: And I think I feels like people are scared hid

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02:37:43,640 --> 02:37:45,720
Speaker 2: the Patriots right now. I don't know what they've done

3046
02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:49,119
Speaker 2: to earn that, to earn that praise, you know. Yeah,

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02:37:49,240 --> 02:37:51,720
Speaker 2: Drake May had moments last year where he was really good.

3048
02:37:52,200 --> 02:37:54,320
Speaker 2: Vrabel has shown the ability to be a really good coach,

3049
02:37:54,400 --> 02:37:56,959
Speaker 2: but there's a lot so much unknown on the offense.

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02:37:57,040 --> 02:37:59,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know how people seem so high on them.

3051
02:37:59,600 --> 02:38:01,440
Speaker 2: And I just don't know if that's if we should

3052
02:38:01,440 --> 02:38:02,840
Speaker 2: be that high on New England right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the Fools gold team. Every every

3054
02:38:07,320 --> 02:38:08,879
Speaker 3: year there's.

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Speaker 1: A Fools that people love, and I think that's the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: First of all, you got to.

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02:38:15,280 --> 02:38:19,440
Speaker 1: Give ray Ball a minute to turn things around. Yeah,

3058
02:38:19,959 --> 02:38:21,760
Speaker 1: to build it, you got to give him a minute.

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02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm with you, strong agree.

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02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:28,960
Speaker 3: You know, I look at him and I go, you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't like do you like the off offensive line questions?

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02:38:34,600 --> 02:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Right? Questions about questions about you know what wide receiver? Right?

3063
02:38:40,879 --> 02:38:43,600
Speaker 2: Who are the guys gonna step up in those moments?

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02:38:43,720 --> 02:38:48,080
Speaker 1: So you got digs, but like I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what his third team in like three years? I mean,

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02:38:51,760 --> 02:38:54,199
Speaker 1: how how good is he? How good is he? Actually?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's fair. It's fair.

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Speaker 1: And and by the way, like the Drake May thing,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I got a lot to see it.

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Speaker 1: I need a lot. I need to see a lot

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02:39:05,959 --> 02:39:11,640
Speaker 1: more from Drake May before I'm all giddy over the Patriots. Buddy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm struggling with you there. You won't if you

3073
02:39:15,959 --> 02:39:18,800
Speaker 2: won't have any you won't have any disagreement with me

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02:39:19,000 --> 02:39:20,160
Speaker 2: on the Patriots stuff.

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Speaker 1: Poor Jets are dead and the dolphin stink. So that's

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02:39:24,520 --> 02:39:27,800
Speaker 1: that's the that's the league. Uh my problem. I gotta

3077
02:39:27,800 --> 02:39:32,240
Speaker 1: tell you I had a blast with you again. Yes, yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: you are You are a terrific thanks for your family. Hopefully,

3079
02:39:36,040 --> 02:39:39,800
Speaker 1: hopefully we do it again soon. Everybody, have a great week.

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Speaker 1: Football's back, enjoy it. See you next Saturday.

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Speaker 3: We love you.