1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Hey, it's dog Gotlie. Been welcome into this week's version 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: of All Ball, All Basketball, All the Time. My boy 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Jake Roushback is gonna join us upcoming in about ten 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: minutes or so. UM you can fall them on Twitter 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: at mind right Pro. We're gonna have a deep dive 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: discussion into Mark hell Folts and his shooting issues. I'll 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about mine, what happened to me, 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: what it actually feels like. I watched Marco Folts and 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm sad just because I think inside the exterior of 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: a talented young athlete that that brain and the body 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: are fighting and they're not working together. And that's why 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: to this point we haven't seen the talent that he 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: had coming out of the University Washington, just spending one 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: year there, and and the people are like, well, you know, 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: everybody should have known, and like, all right. All I 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: can tell you is I had friends that conducted those workouts, 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: those pre draft workouts, and they all said that, you know, 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball is a nice player, but uh but Mark L. Folts, 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: who is the best guard they had in they had 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: in um And obviously what happens is when you look 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: at Utah and you've got a guy who has the 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: type of success that they've had there. I mean, now 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: in addition to the Jason Tatum trade looking like a 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: bad trade, which I thought it was at the time, 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: then you look at Donovan Mitchell, who's an All Star 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: caliber garden only his second year, another guard that put 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell on the Philadelphia's seventy six ers. Now, I 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: would tell you that Donovan Mitchell might now have become 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell had he been drafted by the seventies six 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: or Something's about that. The opportunity you get because Gordon 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: Hayward was gone, and and because of all the other 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: moving parts they had last year, he got to play 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: earlier and had great confidence. Play with that great confidence 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: the place for a coach that knows how to get 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: fine mismatches for him. But I can tell you, to 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: a man, the people I've worked out, we're all like, 37 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Mark of Volts is really good. Now, other people like 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: Tatum better. There were people who like Donovan Mitchell equally 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: thought it was different. But to anyone who says, like, well, 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: you know there's Darren Fox and Alonzo Ball, Mark heal 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: Folks was seen as the better guard the better guard, 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: but it didn't happen, and now he has this kind 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: of mental block, and it's it's a it's a paralyzing feeling. 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: It's one and I hope he pulls out of it, 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: but it's one where I can't even go back and 46 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: watch my college games. And I was a good, really 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: good college player, but I had these severe bouts with 48 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: some sort of performance anxiety. Shooting the basketball manifests itself 49 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: mostly in the free to the line, but that's because 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: I can control it except where and you get fould 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: and then you know, I'd almost never shoot threes or 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: very reluctant threes. And then some days I just have it. 53 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I'd come out and I almost wish, like my coach, 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: I wish in hindsight, three things that happened. I wish 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: one I had opened die log with my coach where 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: I said, hey, listen, tell me what shots I can 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: take and miss and still stay in the game. Come 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: to an agreement there, and I will only take those shots. 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Like in the NBA they called getting to your spots. 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: If I could have shown him where my spots were 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: on the floor, that I can make it every time, 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: because the performance anxiety really was based upon I didn't 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: want to come out, and I felt like if I missed, 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: I came out. That was how my my mind worked, 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: just how it worked, even was a good shot. And 66 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: then ultimately it became a self fulfilling prophecy where I 67 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: would I would reluctantly shoot a shot knowing that if 68 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I missed, I was going to come out, but assuming 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna miss and I would miss, and so 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: I had come out anyway, which is just the weirdest thing. 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: So I wish I had open dialogue. I also wish 72 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: I in addition that I would dialogue, I could if 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: I was still battling it, I could go to a 74 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: coach or go to my coach at the start of 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: the game, like, hey, I don't have it today. I 76 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: don't have the anxiety today because there were times of 77 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: which it wasn't there, and I felt great insummation of 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: my own kind of shooting issues. And there's other parts 79 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: that come with it, right, like, um, not all of 80 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: it is performance anxiety. Some of it is just shooting wise. 81 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: You just don't evolve, and you know, oftentimes when you're 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: a freshman in college, I think college coaches have to 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: know really know your game and help develop your game, 84 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: but also go back to your bread and butter, What 85 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: are the shots that made us want to recruit you here? 86 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: And when I played for John McCloud, he never really invested. 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean we I always shot going to my left 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: off a pick and roll. I had to learn I 89 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: can shoot going right. But I really I watched I 90 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: remember watching Sedale three play for the Lakers when I 91 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: was when I was in high school, back when the 92 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: Lakers were down, and so Dale three always shot off 93 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: the dribble going to his left and I kind of 94 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: like emulated that. And yet um we ran was called 95 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: I think it was either two side or three sides, 96 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: and it was called three sides like a U c L, 97 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: a pit U c L a screen into a ball 98 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: screen for me and Pat Garretty. And I'm telling you, 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: the dude only ran on the left side of the 100 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: court to my right hand until finally, like end of March, 101 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: last game I ever played for him in the regular season, 102 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: or before he played Syracuse the last game of season, 103 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: he finally ran into my left hand side. Those types 104 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: of things. So I do think that some of the 105 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: some of it is when you're young, getting a coach 106 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: that understands you, runs things for you. Doesn't change when 107 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: you get to the NBA. Find a guy's spots, get 108 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: him into those spots. But if I was the Sixers, 109 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I would have I would have I probably put them 110 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: in the g L now and just go like, hey, 111 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: do when you're open, you're gonna shoot. And if you 112 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: don't shoot when you're open, you're gonna come sit because 113 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: and we'll talk with Jake Roschbach in a second about it, 114 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: but it just feels like they're approaching this as if 115 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: it's a physical problem. And I think the more you 116 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: watch markul folks, you realize it's a mental problem. All right, 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: let's get into a couple of things. Hoop wise, if 118 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: you're watching college basketball, you may have seen Villanova just 119 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: get lamb based it by Michigan, and to a certain 120 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: extent in Michigan has gone through this at various times 121 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: here recently with their success in the n c A Tournament. 122 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: When you're successful in the n c A Tournament, you're 123 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: gonna lose one or two more guys than you thought 124 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: you would to the NBA Draft. For example, do Dante 125 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: de Vincenzo goes from last year's team. If all things 126 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: are equal, you know you're gonna lose Miles Bridges, you 127 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: knew you're gonna lose Jalen brunson Um, but you lose 128 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: Amari Spellman kind of a I don't know if you 129 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: knew you'd lose them after one year and Dante de 130 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: Vincenzo if either one of them return, especially if Dante returns, 131 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: remember he didn't really play the point last year, and 132 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: he's he's explosive as how. I'm not doubting his talent. 133 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm surprised at how well and how quickly he's assimilated 134 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: to the NBA early, But I just thought he would 135 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: come back and run the team for a year and 136 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: be the guy before he would go. If one of 137 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: those two, or if they both come back, Nova's the 138 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: top ten team. Otherwise, now you're you're replacing not only personnel, 139 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: you're replacing culture, and that's really hard to do. It 140 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: just is as much as calling to Llespie and Eric 141 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Pascal and Phil Booth had been there, that's just like 142 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: three guys. Everyone else has kind of been watching this 143 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: thing take place, and it becomes like multiplicity copy of 144 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: a copy of a copy that doesn't mean that they're 145 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: gonna be sitting there shaving their tongues. We're talking about 146 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: their peppy But I just it does not feel like 147 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: this the team. But didn't feel coming into the season 148 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: like this was a team that anyone had any idea 149 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: how they would react, including Lanova. We've seen to be 150 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: blown out before. You know, you go back three years 151 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: ago when they won the national championship and they handed 152 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Oklahoma the worst loss in the history of the Final Four. 153 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: They were blown But when they were blown out by 154 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: that in that Oklahoma game, they just missed a ton 155 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: of shots, just missed everything, and Oklahoma hit a ton 156 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: of shots. Whereas against Michigan, Michigan just looked physically and 157 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: completely dominant in the game. Speaking of physically and completely, 158 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna are you enjoying watching Duke kit I mean 159 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: lost in is how well Cam Reddish is shooting the 160 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: basketball and how good a prospect he is. But man, 161 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: is Zion fun to watch. I do think that the 162 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: more we go on the play against good competition will 163 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: let's see how he does wearing down that hot Jim 164 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: and Maui. But I also think that Duke will shoot 165 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: the ball as most teams do really, really well in 166 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: those high school rims. But there are so many of 167 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: you out there, and I'm not one of them that 168 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: are Duke haters that suddenly now are are feeling like 169 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: you gotta rash because you can't believe you found yourself 170 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: cheering for Duke, or at least all God guide over 171 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: watching Zion play, watching him defend, watch him get out run, 172 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: watching him shoot, watching him and dunk, and you're like, man, 173 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: I wish we had that guy. It's a weird feeling 174 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: to watch somebody who you really can't wait to watch 175 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: and then play for a team that you used to 176 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: like to see loose. Lebron James looked amazing, I mean 177 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: amazing on Wednesday night. Ah. He drops for forty four points, 178 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: nearly as a triple double. He's shooting the highest percentage 179 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: he's shot in se averaging more points then he has 180 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: since two thousand ten, and playing fewer minutes that he 181 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: has at any point in his career. And so somebody, 182 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: somebody might say to me, I've listened to your previous 183 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: act and you were killing Lebron. No he wasn't. I 184 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: was saying I was waiting for a moment like this 185 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: where he was just like, Hey, guess what I can 186 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: go get forty and he did. I think Lebron showing 187 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: improvement within the Lakers system. I think the Lakers are 188 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: showing improvement. And the fact that it happened against the 189 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazers, who don't have the same energy on the 190 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: road and it's not gonna be the same energy as 191 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: the first game of the season. But to show the 192 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: difference in the Lakers then and now tangible, really really tangible, 193 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: trending in the right direction. Mark l Foltz is an 194 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: amazing test subject. Here's a kid dumb one pick and 195 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: they're not guarding him. He's in self check and Drew 196 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: Hanlon tried to work with him in the off season, 197 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: and it seems to be getting worse, not better than 198 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: he's got a double hitch on his free throw. Before 199 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: I talked to Jake about anxiety and sports, let me 200 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: tell you about Audible. Discover the easiest way to juggle 201 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: binging on content you love while doing your favorite activities 202 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: with Audible. 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Um, if you watch the video 220 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: of'm shooting free throw, it's not good. There's like a 221 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: double pump there and it looks like Charles Barclay's golf 222 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: swing is probably the best if you haven't seen the video, 223 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: the probably best description of it. I want to bring 224 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: in Jake Roushback. Jake was an assistant coach in Israel 225 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: last year. He's been on the Temple staff previously. And Um, Jake, 226 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: how would you describe exactly what you do outside of 227 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: being a basketball coach? Well, Doug, thanks for having me 228 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: on great chatting. Um, what I do as I helped 229 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: unblocked players the deep unconscious energy, energetic, habitual program or 230 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: a subconscious level of the mind or body. Oftentimes guys 231 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: did kind of stuck based on past experiences or injury situations. 232 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: And my job oftentimes is as the option of the 233 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: last resort UH, going in and helping those guys get 234 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: on blocks and then improving their games. Okay, so when 235 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: you watch Marquel and and everybody's pointing to the free throws, 236 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: but look, he's got a hitch when he shoots jump shots. 237 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: He clearly lacks confidence. And if you shot you know, 238 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this shots outside of 239 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: five feet, he's shooting eight percent from the floor. Eight. Um. 240 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: When you watch Marquel, a guy who we don't know 241 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: how bad the injury was, but there was some sort 242 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: of shoulder injury, some sort of impingement. But we don't 243 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: think that's there anymore. I believe most of it is mental. 244 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: But when you see it, what do you see? Well, 245 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: based upon dealing with guys with similar situations in the 246 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: past and kind of seeing their struggles, UM, what I 247 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: see not knowing and I don't know the ins and 248 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: out the situation, Doug, but I know what the general 249 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: public knows, and just kind of from my background, what 250 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: I see is, UM, two elements. What I would uh 251 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: that is he picked up stuff going through the injury 252 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: copy process with his shoulder. Um. Oftentimes guys go through 253 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: injury recovery and when they're healing, they'll guard injuries, they'll 254 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: protect injuries. Um, there's a lot of fear of re 255 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: injury with that stuff, and so when they get back 256 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: on the court, especially with something so refined as a 257 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: shooting motion, they're gonna be hiccups and guarding. And what 258 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: that does is it generates blocks in the unconscious mind, 259 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: and that stuff isn't result and basically cleared out and healed, 260 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have situations where guys struggle. The second 261 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: piece of this is you know there's there's the injury piece. Well, 262 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: once guys get back on the court, there's so much 263 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: pressure on fults right now. UM. You know it feels 264 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: like that every shot he takes, the whole world is 265 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: watching him. You know, from from a UM performance standpoint, 266 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: a muscle memory standpoint. If you're already coming in and 267 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: balance which you're shot, and then you have to add 268 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: on this stuff and you have air balls upon air 269 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: balls and bat shots that's been shop trapped other unconscious blocks. 270 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: So you're dealing with a two fold situation that really, 271 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: in my opinion, probably needs to be dealt with at 272 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: a deep sat muscle memory level. There's a couple of things. 273 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: I do think that that one of the things that 274 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: began was UM he tried changing a shot before playing 275 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: in the NBA. UM and this is one of the 276 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: reasons that the Lakers. The Lakers wanted to change Alonzo's 277 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: shot this past summer, not before he played in the NBA. 278 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: They felt like, let him play, let him figure it out. 279 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: We have more time after year one, between the year 280 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: one to year two to fix it. Marquel and his trainer, 281 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: they tried to fix it before year one and he 282 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: had some sort of shoulder injury. I don't know it 283 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: was caused by what it was caused LIE So you have, 284 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: uh changing the shot, which changed your muscle memory, some 285 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: sort of injury, a dramatic lack of confidence, and all 286 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: of the pressure that comes with it. And now, like 287 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: I saw, there's a quote today Chris Brussard, who works 288 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: with us at Fox that you know that Jimmy Butler 289 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: said he told somebody close to him He's not going 290 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: to coddle Mark heal faults. He's got to play and 291 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: play now. And I'm like, dude, what what are you? 292 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: You don't even this is the biggest problem in basketball 293 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: is there are guys who and I I didn't suffer 294 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: from exactly what Folts is suffering from, but there's some 295 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: similar aspects to it, which is like, look, did I 296 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: go to the gym and make shots. That's not a problem. 297 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: Whether it was performance anxiety or whatever. Um, I you know, 298 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: I all of a sudden got to where I didn't 299 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: think I should shoot because I didn't believe it was 300 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: gonna go I wasn't necessarily I didn't believe it was 301 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: gonna go in I had a fear of being taken 302 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: out of the game missing a shot the same reason guys, 303 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: don't you know I get dunk really easily in college. 304 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: And then my son me, you know how many times 305 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: you dunk in college? I said once? And why you 306 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: dunk all the time in warm ups? Yeah? Why not? 307 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: I Well, because I didn't I didn't want to miss, right, 308 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: But that's kind of why I didn't shoot. And then 309 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: it becomes, you know, you miss, It becomes a self 310 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: fulfilling prophecy. My thing is like Jimmy Butler, he you're 311 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: dealing with a mental health issue more than a physical 312 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: health issue, and maybe a combination of the both. It's 313 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: really best if you stay out of this one, especially 314 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: before you even kind of play with the kid. All right, 315 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: So take me through the process. Let's say you're gonna 316 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: sit down with Marquel, Folks, what's the process of fixing this? So, 317 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: Doug the way that that I worked the way in 318 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: structure my my program or my work is actually build 319 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: a player development program incorporating high performance coaching, a lot 320 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: of mindfulness um um um acriculpture based techniques without the 321 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: needles jhonese, medicine stuff techniques, and then you know you 322 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: actually get on important and put it all together with 323 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: skill development. So what I would do actually sit down 324 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: with him, work with him um extensively over probably eight 325 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: to ten week period, maybe longer UM maybe sure to, 326 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: depending upon how he responds UM. The way it will 327 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: work is the way it works effectively in the past 328 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: for guys similar situations. If you sit down off the 329 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: court for a session in two per weeks and then 330 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: you actually identify the things in his past that really 331 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: still bother him on an unconscious energetic level. We're talking 332 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: about the habitual patterning, the muscle memory level that uh 333 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: that basically taking another million shots is not gonna fix 334 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: if you don't address this first. So by doing that 335 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: off the court, get in, you clear that out through 336 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: different types of techniques mindfulness, energy, psychology, UM energy work 337 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: quite frankly, and then on the court you The second 338 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: piece of that is you helped him. You teach him 339 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: technique to say locked in so that when he is 340 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: it the sal line and stuff does come up, as 341 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: it inevitably will in terms of anxiety or pressure or 342 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: whatever it might be, he's got go to THO. Two 343 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: are any home techniques where he can go to and 344 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: lean on to get back in his own if you will. 345 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: The third piece of this is again this is like 346 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: a perfect world scenario, doug Is, you're able to coach 347 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: him and remind him during practices and most importantly during 348 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: games that when the bullet starts flying, he's missed a 349 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: couple of shots, he's had a couple of bad turnovers. 350 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: You remind him to go through the techniques and processes 351 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: he would have already learned to basically stay in that 352 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: high performance state and get over these blocks that he's 353 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: been dealing with. So you're looking at it how long? 354 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: Like I understand you meet a couple of times a week, 355 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: but it feels like this is like, so do you 356 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: think he can play through it and go through this 357 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: type of of mind body training or do you think 358 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: he needs to not be playing? You know, how would 359 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: you again, perfect scenario, Just let's just take Mark hell Folds. 360 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: What do you do so he's gonna have to play 361 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: through it? I mean this is the real world, right, 362 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean you can't just sit him down and not 363 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: am But um, again, what guys are similar situations from 364 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: from experience in the past the most Usually the guys 365 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: that improved the most are during the season because the 366 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: rubbers meeting the road, there's basically um a level of focus. 367 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: They probably wouldn't otherwise path if it wasn't in season, 368 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: and so you deal with it on the fly. That's 369 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: the best way to do it. Yes see, I I 370 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: thought that the wholding amount of summer league was a mistake, 371 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: right because it becomes a bigger issue and now all 372 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, when you do it, you have to 373 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: when when you know you work with Drew Handlon and 374 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: I think what they did, and I haven't spoken to 375 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: Drew about it. In fairness to Drew, and he's very 376 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: good at what he does as a skill developer, But 377 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, fixing somebody's shot and taking thousands of shots 378 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: like that doesn't that doesn't change what's going on in 379 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: your brain, and that's the those synapses are not firing 380 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: as much. And I almost feel like they made it 381 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: worse by not allowing him to work through the mental 382 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: blocks while working through the physical blocks during the summer league. 383 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: And so Nelson, you're doing it with your NBA teammates, 384 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: and it only the pressure gets ramped up and it 385 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: only becomes worse. Can I can I give you a 386 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: quick example taking things an example might help UM people 387 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: understand what we're talking about, because obviously this is new 388 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: people are like, you know a lot of people don't 389 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: just exactly understand what we're talking about sometimes. But take 390 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: the guy and shoots the million shots, great shooter, example, 391 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Take another guy he shoots the million shots, 392 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: he's not a good shooter. Well, the guy that shoots him, uh, 393 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: doesn't shoot well, and he's taking the same amount of shot. 394 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: We'll probably the equivalent amount of ability. The stuff that 395 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm finding is the non good shooter is Um. He 396 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: might have had a couple of experiences in high school 397 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: where he lost the state championship for his team because 398 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: he needs he miss free throws at the end of 399 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: the end of the game, or he went over eleven 400 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: in college and his coach got on him. Like this 401 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: stuff sticks with players, it's not dealt with. So that's 402 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: that's really the rub in this whole situation. Um, some 403 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: athletes have it more than other. In some auth's really 404 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: kind of just moved through it and it's not they're 405 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: not affected at all. But when guys are affected by it, 406 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, you see kind of see what happens in 407 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: a worst case scenario. Yeah, it's it's honestly, it's paralyzing, 408 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: paralyzing it's um, this is gonna this is probably gonna 409 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: sound like I think the one of like there's all 410 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: kinds of terrible diseases, right, like a l S is 411 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: just it's so heart wrenching if you know anybody who's 412 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: gone through it, because their mind is still functioning perfectly, 413 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: but their body quits on them. Right, That's what that 414 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: lu Garry's disease. Your body quits on it. And no 415 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: one who listened this is going to get offended. But 416 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: somebody's get offended. I'm just using it as a analogy. 417 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: That's kind of what it's like as an athlete where 418 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: your mind is still functioning, you know how you're supposed 419 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: to shoot the ball, but your body and and your 420 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: body and then the the subconscious is misfiring, and so 421 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: you're so locked up that you can't do what you've 422 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: done your entire life. Right, Like the example is, people 423 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: remember me as an awful free throw shooter in college. 424 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: My entire life up until I played in college, I 425 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: was the I was the point guard who when the 426 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: game was we're up three, up to late in the game, 427 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: hold the ball, make him foul. You step up to 428 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: the line, make two free throws. I went from that 429 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: to do we gotta get him out of the game 430 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: because he can't make free throws. And my shot looked better, 431 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: my strength was better, my wrists were better, my legs 432 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: were better, like all of that. But your your body 433 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: doesn't respond properly to what your brain used to be 434 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: doing because something in the subconscious is misfiring. Right, That's 435 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: that's how that's the That's the way I would explain. 436 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: And you can also take the Nick Anderson scenarire right 437 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: where like four free throws at the end of it 438 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: was but you know, the rest of the career he 439 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: basically tanked after that. That's like an extreme scenario. And 440 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: the piece you're talking about, the most important piece to 441 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: understand is if these guys would have wanted to change it, 442 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: Like if it was a conscious thing, they would have 443 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: already changed it, right, if they would have had the 444 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: tools to change it. But it's not a conscious thing. 445 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: It's an unconscious thing. So then, like you just said, 446 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: you get real damned up because when you you get 447 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: into situations you're programming your performance, programming the way you 448 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: operate on the court is not in alignment with success. 449 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: Once you actually get them stuff it's kind of out 450 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: of balances. Fixable. Of course, he is fixable. I mean, 451 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: and I hate honestly, it's there's so much fruit me 452 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: around the situation. Um, it's a lot. I'm sure it's 453 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot to take for him, but you know from 454 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: my experience, he is most definitely one percent fixable. Um, 455 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: it would take some time now to we take some 456 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: work and dedication. And the most important thing with that 457 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: player and coaching coaches always know is a guy as 458 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: a player has to buy in, has to be like, 459 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: all right, man, let's do this thing right a thousand percent, 460 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: but Doug a thousand percent. He's do we get to 461 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: a point though? Or is there a point of no return? 462 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: That's that's That's what I'm wondering. Is there a point 463 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: to which you're like, okay, now you're to the Ricky 464 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: and Kio had to change positions, Nick Anderson was washed. 465 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: Is there a point of what what's your greatest fixing story? 466 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: Great question? So there was. There might be too. I'll 467 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: give you the first one. We have time in the 468 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: second one grade. Uh, there's a there's a guy last year, um, 469 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: and I'm there's a guy that we that played for 470 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: our team last year. He was a long time is 471 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: really professional playing the league, playing the Super League Curse 472 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: Division in his era for twelve years. Um had basically 473 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: a similar situation as Marcel fol said. Um, but he 474 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: started lifting weights in the middle of his career and 475 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: it totally threw off the shot. Now that that's that's 476 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: the outline, you know, obvious reasons why about What it 477 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: came down to was he was super anxious, uh and 478 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of fear around stuff in his life, 479 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: and it manifested at the ballone. So basically he shot 480 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: thirty five per cent from the foulne before say, six 481 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: or seven seasons. Um last season he was shooting. He 482 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: started the season out shooting thirty six percent. Right. Um. 483 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: We worked for eight weeks really Desarinan on his insecurity, 484 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: his sphere. He felt stuff that off the court that 485 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: was affecting him and guys in Israel, like everybody knows 486 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: his player in Israel. He's like he's a lot of cars. 487 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: And by the time we had done eight weeks later, 488 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: he had improved the street percentage by seven percent. And 489 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: because he improved street percentage by se he was no 490 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: longer scared to get to the foulne. So that meant 491 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: around the basket he was finishing more and he had 492 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: more relaxation and confidence, meaning his still go percentage went 493 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: twelve percent because basically he was really unblocked and is 494 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: playing with a lot of confidence in flow. So that's like, 495 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: that's a real similar situation. And again, just like bolts 496 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: in many people's eyes, is not um, I might say, 497 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: not fictable. Same thing for this player in Israel, and 498 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: he's doing just fine now uh in in Europe, playing 499 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: in Europe and now playing Israel. Boats Um. The second 500 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: guy was actually a long time NBA vetteran playing in 501 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: the NBA for seven years. I was bouncing around for 502 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: Iran and the Czech Republic in all different places and 503 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: ended up landing an isa on our team last year. 504 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: And so um big things. Big knock on him throughout 505 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: his career was he wasn't always locked in, he wasn't 506 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: always aggressive, and most importantly wasn't consistent with his shooting 507 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: and his scoring efficiency. Early last season it was d 508 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: Kuan Cook. So if you watched the Quan Cook uh 509 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: in the past, you know he has a tunt of 510 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: talent um, but sometimes he doesn't always put it together. Well, um, 511 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: you know, again going back to early last season he 512 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: was struggling, we're able to get in over ten weeks 513 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: work with them extensively. Again, this is onboard stuff, offboard 514 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: stuff combined. Is like throwing everything at these guys to 515 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: help him improve. And then he ended up improving, uh 516 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: three point percentage but eight percent, and then his points 517 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: per minute which was point five two, so they got 518 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: point five two and he ended up improving that the 519 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: point seven two point seven two, and then he ended 520 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: up leaving the Super League in that category. So guys, 521 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, these are guys that are that are veterans 522 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: that are much older than solds, that are thirty one two, 523 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: that are you know, at the down stoop of their 524 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: their career, and they're able to actually improve over the 525 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: long term, not not a quick fix, not a short 526 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: term thing, but over the long term and by the numbers. 527 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: Jake roushback. You can follow him on Twitter at mind 528 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: right pro course also on on Instagram as well. Menace, 529 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: great background stuff. I can't tell you how much I 530 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: appreciate what. I'll look forward to talk with you in 531 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: the near future and also seeing what happens with Mark 532 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: Hell and we'll get you back to breakdown if you 533 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: see improvement, or if he remains staggering, or if they 534 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: if they, if they do not stopped playing him because 535 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: it has gotten to the point where it's getting worse, 536 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: not getting better. Thanks so much for joining us, Jake. 537 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this edition of All Ball. Gave 538 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: you a little college, gave you a lot of mind 539 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: mind basketball stuff, and gave you some nb A Tell 540 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: a friend to download, subscribe and rate. 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