1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: A note to the listener. The following story contains some 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: adult content and language. This box just had a bunch 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: of little dresses, and I'm assuming they're yours, either mine 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: or your aunt ar Lean's one of ours? And what 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: size is that? Um? Seven? It must be mine? Is 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: this Hank? That's him, my mysterious grandfather. Wow? Here was 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: a car before all of the private detective stuff. Yeah, 8 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: there aren't a ton of those, Beth. Where did you 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: find that one? It was in a box, Mark Hughes. 10 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: That makes sense. That was the judge. It was so handsome. No, no, 11 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: not not a judge, my grand The voices you're hearing 12 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: with me are a Phyllis Briggs Turner and her daughter, 13 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Beth Turner. Phillis owns a breakfast spot just outside of Seattle, 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: and Beth is a freelance writer for an online magazine. 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Here they were taking me through some of the belongings 16 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: left behind by Phyllis's late father, Hank Briggs, a private 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: detective in the Los Angeles area in the nineteen fifties. 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: Can you help me with this? Oh? Yeah, of course, thanks? Mom? 19 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: Was this photo from the war? Uh? No, it's basic training, 20 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: I think, Ah, Jesus, I can't believe we kept all 21 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: of these. There's so much stuff. Hank died just over 22 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: two months ago, and the arrival of all of his 23 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: belongings to Phyllis's house is fairly recent and was somewhat unexpected. See, 24 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: Hank had lived alone for years with little to no 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: contact with anyone, so when Phillis and Beth showed up 26 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: to clean out his house, they expected to find just 27 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of junk trinkets, old photographs, clothing, and they're 28 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: like but hidden away in the attic of hank briggs home. 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: We're missing pieces in one of the most famous unsolved 30 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: murders Hollywood has ever known. From Vot's Popula and the 31 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Harold, this is the Angel of Vine. Why 32 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: old heart ain't gain and no ground because my Angels. 33 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm Oscar Simons of the Los Angeles, Harold, and welcome 34 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: to the Angel of Vine. A little bit about me 35 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: and my involvement in this crazy story before we begin. 36 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Some of you already know me in my podcast, so 37 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: please bear with me. As I explained to those who 38 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: may be listening for the first time, I promised to 39 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: try and make it brief I've always been fascinated by 40 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: investigative police work, specifically when that work reaches its limit, 41 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: where there are no more clues or leads, and all 42 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: information and options seem to have been exhausted. A cold case. Now, 43 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: one of the most famous of these cases is the 44 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: Angel of Vine. Chances are you've heard the name, even 45 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: if you don't know the details now. Like so many others, 46 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: this case has always been of great interest to me. 47 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: It was a gruesome murder for any time period, but 48 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: especially for that time and after the only suspect in 49 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: the case was released from custody, the police work stopped 50 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: in its tracks when it seemed as if there was 51 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: nowhere left to look. Everyone just stopped looking. Everyone except 52 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: for Hank Briggs so Beth for the record, for our listeners, 53 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Why am I here such deep questions so early in 54 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the morning. No, Um, you're here because I called you 55 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: about my grandfather's tapes that I found, that my mother 56 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: and I found. And what about those tapes led you 57 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: to me? We have to go back a little. Um. So, 58 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: my mom got a call from the Los Angeles Police Department. 59 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Right yeah, l A p D contacted Seattle p D, 60 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: who showed up here out of the blue. And what 61 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: do they say that Hanks died peacefully in his home 62 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and left everything to me? Wow? Yeah, 63 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: that's your average house call. No, not so much. How 64 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: long had it been since she's senior Valley? Long time? 65 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: Not since my mother's funeral. I'm sorry, don't be so 66 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: After that, you had l A. Yes, we flew down 67 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: the following week to meet with the probate lawyer. How 68 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: is that expeditious? Relatively clinical? The afternoon that we arrived 69 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: in l A, the lawyer hand us a check from 70 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: hanks bank account, the keys to the house and keys 71 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: tweet car that hadn't been driven in years. Did you 72 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: go to the house that day? We did that afternoon. 73 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: We didn't meet the realtor there until the next day. 74 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: But when you're hand at the keys to a house, 75 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: do you go see the house? I'm assuming that wasn't 76 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: the house you grew up in. It wasn't. What was 77 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: it like? It was depressing before we even walked in. 78 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: I was starting with that old car, and not like 79 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: old car, like a classic car and eight three colss 80 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: Sierra haven't been maintained in years. The fender was rusted 81 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: cobwebs around the hub caps that the felt from the 82 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: interior ceiling was sagging, depressing. So what was it like 83 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: walking into the house for the first time, Like entering 84 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: any stranger's home. Completely foreign, and it was very dark. 85 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: The blinds were all closed. Not much in the way 86 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: of furniture either, feel very lonely. There was a reclining 87 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: chair in the center of the living room and one 88 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: of those TV dinner stands you know there's. The TV 89 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 1: was on a loose sight rolling cart old, not antenna old, 90 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: but everything felt old, as if there was a filter 91 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: over everything. I mean, the couch had a plastic cover 92 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: on it. We stepped into a different era and the 93 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: bedroom was completely bare except for the book of poetry 94 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: and the photograph of you, Arolene and Grandma and an 95 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: ashtray ashtrays in every corner. The whole house smelled like 96 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: stale cigarettes and catfood, but there wasn't a cat, not 97 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: that we found anyway. So when did you find the attic? 98 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: We didn't actually know there was an attic the first day. 99 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: We were only there for what maybe fifteen minutes. It 100 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: was when we met the realtor there. I heard her say, 101 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: what's up here? And there was the ladder. It was 102 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: one of those pool string panels in the hallway ceiling 103 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: on the way to the bathroom. So you climbed the ladder, 104 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: and what do you see the trappings of a mad hoarder. 105 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: File boxes, file box upon file box upon file box. 106 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean there were boxes everywhere. What did you find 107 00:06:54,040 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: in those boxes? We found the tapes? Where was he? Right? 108 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: This guy's wife, you know, they just know, right, she 109 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: just knew he was running around behind her back with 110 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the neighbor girl, this gorgeous blonde actress from Utah, Mormon 111 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: girl shirked her husband and sister Winds or whatever to 112 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: move to Hollywood and kiss matten the adols, you know, 113 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: the usual. So this guy, he's not even trying to 114 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: hide it, leaves work for a lunch, goes right down 115 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: the street, buys flowers, candy, breath mints, starts driving back 116 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: to his neighborhood. And I'm thinking, well, this job lasted 117 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: a day, right, Maybe I shouldn't lose him. I don't know, 118 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: stretch it out till the weekend or whatever. I mean, 119 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: I got a mortgage in office rent, you know, all right, 120 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: So I'm following the guy, and he drives right past 121 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: the actress is little Bungalow, and I think, Okay, not 122 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: so predictable after all, not this guy. After about half 123 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: an hour, he finally pulls over downtown, right near that 124 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: giant warehouse near sixth. He goes into one of those 125 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: new I don't know, animated buildings, you know, across the street. 126 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what they call him. So so now 127 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm hustling to get in after him, because christ I 128 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: lose this guy and he's gone god knows how long, 129 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: which again, not such a bad thing, right, Maybe I 130 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: will make my mortgage after all, who knows, But not 131 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: if I don't get anything on him. So I sneak 132 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: in there and I see him talking to someone on 133 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: the first floor, practically begging this guy to be let 134 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: into the place. I pretend I'm checking the mail and 135 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: the lobby until he goes in, and then one, two three, 136 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: I count the doors in the hall. He goes in 137 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: the number three, so I pop outside. I make my 138 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: way to the windows of the place. One two three, 139 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: I sidled up the window. Three, I grabbed my camera 140 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: and pay him. Got him. You want to know what 141 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: this freaking guy's doing. I got him in a diaper 142 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: being held by a very large woman. He's in this 143 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: big diaper, pacifier in his mouth and every time I 144 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: can you believe? Then, how the hell am I going 145 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: to tell his wife with a straight face? So that's 146 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: what he's been doing. I may to forget about him. 147 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: When I showed the pictures to each his own, I guess, 148 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Hey, hey, my drinking alone again. 149 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm coming. Charlie's unbelievable, right. Parnell has got to be steaming. 150 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Didn't even get a full month to celebrate his no 151 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: hit her. Hey, how's aunty? She's killing me? To be fair, 152 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: I wanted to throw all the tapes out with the 153 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: rest of the stuff, decades of case files and this 154 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: entire life that none of us were privy to, but 155 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: Beth insisted on shipping it all here. I never met him, 156 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean I had never wanted to. But when I 157 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: saw all of those boxes, all of his cases, and 158 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the tapes, all of those tapes there are hundreds of hundreds, 159 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: and suddenly I wanted to hear what my grandfather had 160 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: to say. I wanted to know about him. Would you 161 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: like some more coffee. Thanks. Okay, so you ship all 162 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: this stuff back here and then and then one well 163 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: everything was thrown into these boxes, no logs, no order 164 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: to it, just chucked in a box. And once everything 165 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: was unloaded into the garage and just staring at me, 166 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: I thought, where the hell do I begin? So? Where 167 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: did you start with the ones that I found? With 168 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: the mini phone? For those who who don't know, can 169 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: you describe what a mini phone is? Yeah? So it's 170 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: a clunky handheld recorder about the size of a three 171 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: hundred page paperback, and each tape, that's what you want 172 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: to call it, is a spool of metal wire, basically 173 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: a small reel to reel. But what's really crazy about 174 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: it is that it came with this phone attachment, a 175 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: watch with a microphone and a hole ster. Sounds like 176 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: spy gear totally so. So he could be wearing it 177 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: under his coat or recording you from the microphone and 178 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: his watch. Can I see that? Yeah? Ever, no, you're 179 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: being recorded? Uh wow? Yeah. There's also a foot pedal. 180 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: Must have been for his office. Yeah, the pantilet shows 181 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: it used under a desk. That would make sense. Okay, 182 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: so you find the mini phone and then what So 183 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: I picked one of the tapes, and after a few 184 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: delicate minutes trying to figure out just how to load it, 185 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: I impressed play and there he was my grandfather, and 186 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: there was this immediate sense of urgency and his voice, 187 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: and so I stopped it. Why it was darring. I 188 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: also realized that I didn't have any context. I didn't 189 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: know what I was listening to. I mean, none of 190 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: the information would make any sense to me. What do 191 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: you mean? Well, I knew the name the Angel of Vine. 192 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: I had heard of it, but not much else. So 193 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: I turned to the internet technology just to get the 194 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: basics about the case. Your blog came up with the 195 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: most recent article about it, and after a quick read, 196 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: that's that's when I knew I might be in over 197 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: my head. And that's why you're here. So you saw 198 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: the crime scene, botus, I did. Jesus Christ. A warning 199 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: to the possibly squeamish. What you're about to hear is 200 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: Hank reading Detective Lieutenant Robert Perkins report of when he 201 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: first arrived at the crime scene. The victim in question 202 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: would later be identified as Marlene Murray Evans, dubbed by 203 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: the media the Angel Levine. Body was lying souppine let's 204 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: face up in the parking lot, head pointed south, feet 205 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: pointing to the north. The legs of the victim were 206 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: crusted and the arms were pointing downward each of the 207 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: forty five gray angle with the poems facing up towards 208 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: the sky. Victims ribs were protruding outward from behind the 209 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: torso and I either side of the body at a 210 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: forty five degree angle, pointing solid blood, presumably the victims 211 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: was splattered on the pavement outward from each rib directly 212 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: over the head of the body formed a semi circle 213 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: of twelve bones. Jesus, there were no visible ascerations of 214 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: bruises that would indicate a struggle anywhere on the front 215 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: of the body. Seems that the victim had been killed 216 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: at a different location. No kidding, Perkins, as it appears 217 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: to have been cleaned prior to being placed here. What 218 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: kind of sick o. It's like he was getting the 219 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: camera ready, Dad, That poor girl's parents further warning. What 220 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: follows is from the autopsy performed on March six by 221 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: Dr John Lemery, Los Angeles County Corner. In the report, 222 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: it states all of her details. She was five ft 223 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: six weighed pounds. She had brown hair and hazel eyes. 224 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: G L seventy residue was found on the front of 225 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: her central and lateral incisors, as well as the underside 226 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: of her upper right, second and third molars. Like with 227 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: Perkins report, there was nothing out of the ordinary when 228 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: it came to the front side of Marlen's body. Her 229 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: back is a whole other story. The body had been 230 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: cut longitudinally, that is to say, vertically, from the base 231 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: of the skull to just above the sacrum. The trapezius 232 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: and latissimus dorside muscles of her back had been peeled 233 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: away and removed. Her ribs were then peeled outward, and 234 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: the twelve bones above her head were the twelve intact 235 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: vertebrae of her entire thoracic spine, her wings, and her halo. 236 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: The body had been drained of its blood, except for 237 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: the amount splattered at the crime scene, which was later 238 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: assumed to be Marline's as it matched her known blood type. 239 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Lemery also noted that there was extensive echymosis or bruising 240 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: at the sites where the muscles had been removed, which 241 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: means she was alive during this If there is any 242 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: good news here, and I'm trying to find some. It 243 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: is that the official cause of death was ruled an 244 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: overdose from a combination of two barbeto It's pento barbatral 245 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: and Cicco barbatal sedative used for a wide range of 246 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: conditions from insomniato epilepsy. For Marlene to have had enough 247 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: of these in her system to cause her death, it 248 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: is safe to say that she was not aware of 249 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: what was being done to her, and that is the 250 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: good news at least I choose to believe that. Now 251 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: we do know the body was cleaned. But I want 252 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: to go back for a second to when I mentioned 253 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: something called g L seventy that was found on her teeth. 254 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: So what is g L seventy. Well, g L seventy 255 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: was a compound found in glee toothpaste that supposedly fought oder. 256 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Think about that for a second. She's been essentially dissected, right, 257 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: her body intricately mutilated beyond belief, and the killer takes 258 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: the time during all of this to brush her teeth. 259 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Like Hank said, it's like he was getting her camera ready. Hollywood, 260 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: California not just the home of glitz and glamour. No 261 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: beneath the limousines and mink coats looks a dark underbelly 262 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: of crime, narcotics, and yes, even murder. The Angel of Vine, 263 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: a murder straight from the pages of a dime store thriller, 264 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: has captured the minds and fuelled the nightmares of the 265 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: nation and baffled law enforcement in Los Angeles. And how 266 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: could it not the life of Marley Marie Evans just 267 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: twenty three years old with a burgeoning film career, and 268 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: did tragically on March nine nine in an empty part 269 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: lot just north of Hollywood Boulevard. Her body mutilated, her 270 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: life cut short, and her killers still at large. And 271 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: with numerous false confessions, countless individual's questions, and no viable 272 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: suspects on the horizon, will the Angel of Ning be 273 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: one Hollywood tale to go without a third act? Oh, 274 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: late time, we'll tell. After my first interview with Beth 275 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: and Phillis, I reached out to a self proclaimed expert 276 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: in the case and asked him if he wouldn't mind 277 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: meeting me at the scene where it all started. David, Yep, 278 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: Hey you you ask her? Yeah, nice to meet you. 279 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah you too, Yeah, thanks for meeting me here of course. Hey, 280 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: welcome to dead Hollywood Tours. That's what I do. Man. 281 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: So you want to know about Marlene Ribbons Huh, the 282 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: grizzly unsolved murder of a young actress, the angel as 283 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: they call her. Well, they found her right over there 284 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: in that parking lot. Yes, sir, flayed imposed and angelic 285 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: staring at the heavens. You know what I find amazing 286 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: is how many crazy theories people have about the murder. 287 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: How many? Why can you tell me one? I'm sure 288 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: people love to latch onto the idea of a southern 289 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: California that they've heard about. When it comes to cases 290 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: like I don't know, the Manson family or the Zodiac Killer. 291 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to attach a half naked, wacko culture, a 292 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: hooded madman whose m O is always somehow satanic rituals. 293 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: And you don't think that that was the case here, Oh, 294 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: absolutely not. The likelihood that Marlene Maray Evans was a 295 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: sacrifice to a secret society is as plausible as the 296 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: idea that she was murdered by the FBI, the CIA, 297 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: and the mafia. Interesting, how can you be sure? Well, 298 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: because because of the care and the attention paid to 299 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: her body, the ribs made to look like wings, and 300 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 1: the use of her spine to create a halo. I mean, 301 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: it's all too clean, man, it's the theatrical. It's too 302 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: much of a presentation. I mean, I certainly don't think 303 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: the killer had Ernie Newburn in mind as the dude 304 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: that was going to find Winder. I mean, here's this 305 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: laborer on his way to treat himself to some pancakes, 306 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: a through pars and instead of staying on Yucca, which 307 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: I would have done, takes the lot that cuts through 308 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: from Ivart de Vine and finds himself an angel, you know, 309 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: pancakes for any of that day. I mean a construction worker. 310 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: She was found by a freaking construction worker who panics, 311 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: grabs every other worker on the job to confirm that 312 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: what he's found is in fact a dead girl, and 313 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: by the time the cops show up, it's a zoo. 314 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're gonna lay a body across 315 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: from an active construction site before dawn on a weekday, 316 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: there's no question she was absolutely meant to be found 317 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: and seen by the public. I mean, once the press 318 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: in this town got wind of the crime scene, they 319 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: nearly destroyed any evidence in that lot, trying to scoop 320 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: each other. I mean, can you imagine trying to keep 321 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: that lot safe from a mob of reporters. That's a 322 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: ton of space to block off from vultures, let alone 323 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: comb for evidence with flashing bulbs going off and question 324 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: is being yelled at that you don't have the answers 325 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: to It must have been absolute mayhem, absolute mayhem. And 326 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: Hollywood ate it up. I mean, not just Hollywood, everyone 327 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: ate it up. I'm still leading it up. I mean, 328 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: have you heard those awful newsreels from back then? I have, Yes, Yeah, 329 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: they're they're pretty colorful, colorful, they're grotesque and if you 330 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: ask me, which you are the only benefit of the killer. 331 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: The grandiosity of the drama on that scale of reporting 332 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: just created more hysteria. Little known fact where poor old 333 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: Ernie found her in that parking lot. He was actually 334 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: closer to Ivar Marlene Marie Evans is actually the angel 335 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: of Ivor. That's not as catchy, is it? So the 336 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: reporters use angel of vine everybody knows fine Hollywood and 337 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: Vine bang instant headline. Everybody's hooked. My mother used to say, 338 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: all he cared about was that dead girl meeting the angel? 339 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: It makes more sense now, So what else can you 340 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: tell me about Hank? We know he was a police officer. 341 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: What my mother used to call him a professional peeping tom. 342 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: But yes, he was a cop for many years until 343 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: he left the force. Do you know what? Something to 344 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: do with politics within the department. They wanted to make 345 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: an example of him, and so he left. After that, 346 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: he opened his private detective agency. Spends less and less 347 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: time at home. My mother kicks him out. G was 348 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: a tough cookie, understandable. I can't say a blamer, said 349 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: just a second meeting here, I'm not going anywhere. Yeah, 350 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: how can I help you? Hank breeze? That's what it 351 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: says on the door. May I see that's what it's 352 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: there for? You come? Highly recommended, Mr Briggs. Urban was 353 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: especially pleased with your discretion. You don't strike me as 354 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: a Hollywood type. I'd like you to help me find 355 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: someone how You're gonna have to be a little bit 356 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: more specific, Mr Briggs, I want you to help me 357 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: find whoever killed Marley Marie Evans. The Angel of Vine 358 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: was a case with little to no information surrounding it. 359 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: There were no prints, no clues, few suspects, and nothing 360 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: connecting it to any other victims in any other cases. 361 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: The investigation had such a dead end that the entirety 362 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: of the l a p D gave up after eight months. 363 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: I want you to think about that for a second. 364 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: The l a p D gave up any hope that 365 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: they would catch Marlene Marie Evans killer. And here we are, 366 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: decades later, with an entire attic filled with audio recordings 367 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: of an ex cop turned private detective who got closer 368 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: than anyone to solving the murder and didn't tell us all. 369 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: I want to know what made Hank Briggs the guy 370 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: for the job. I want to know how he found 371 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: a trail that no one else could. And more than anything, 372 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: I want to know if he can tell the world 373 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: who killed. The Angel of Vine. The Angel Levine is 374 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: a podcast produced by Vox popular on behalf of the 375 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Harold. 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