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Speaker 1: enough to remember.

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Speaker 2: Back in two ty sixteen when it was last game

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Speaker 2: Chevin in the NBA Finals. I remember it like it

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Speaker 2: was yesterday. Lebron James was magnificent. Show too. Is Kyrie

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Speaker 2: Irvy welcome in?

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Speaker 1: You know? I think there's I you know, like I

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Speaker 1: have friends who are like, hey, find the dub of

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Speaker 1: the day. You know, you have a bad day, find

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Speaker 1: the win of the day. I think my win of

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Speaker 1: the sports calendar, because really, what happens after Sunday, that's

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Speaker 1: the flipping of the sports calendar, right, NBA Draft is

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday, Cooper Flag, couple others, but not really a

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Speaker 1: huge but after that we kind of flipped the sports calendar.

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Speaker 1: You know. Some people say it's when you get to

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Speaker 1: Baseball All Star break right then that's why we have

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Speaker 1: SP's because it used to be the dead day. But

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Speaker 1: it feels like that's the And my biggest win is

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Speaker 1: also probably jay Stu's biggest win, right, jay Stu has

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Speaker 1: us all kind of an agreement that, you know, the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the level of Zuopa the

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Speaker 1: U two album that was a wall wall, but his

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Speaker 1: win is getting us more over to the side of,

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Speaker 1: you know, quality of play in the NFL not great,

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Speaker 1: and my win is the opposite for basketball, which which

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Speaker 1: is despite the fact the ratings will be down, it's

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Speaker 1: been a fun series to watch and it's always interesting

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Speaker 1: on when now this is the influx of politics and

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Speaker 1: the political siding and that you can't be in the

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Speaker 1: middle or you can't agree with the other side on anything,

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Speaker 1: because you'll have people that I'm not watching, they don't

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Speaker 1: play hard, the playoffs last too long. There's just isoball,

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Speaker 1: there's no defense. There's this is that like you pick

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Speaker 1: apart every little thing, and then you actually watch this

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Speaker 1: series and both teams play fast. Indiana better at playing

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Speaker 1: fast last night. You have guys that come off the

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Speaker 1: bench and some of their stars that play incredibly hard.

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Speaker 1: The level of skill is tremendous. And yeah, there are

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Speaker 1: some form born players like Shay Gildess Alexander just to

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Speaker 1: name one, but there are also some stars like Terres

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Speaker 1: Halbert who are born in the States. And so if

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Speaker 1: your argument was like, ah, foreign players like you can

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Speaker 1: come up with anything you don't like about something, and

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Speaker 1: usually it's kind of stacked behind the obvious thing, which

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Speaker 1: is some of the players were politically active or have

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Speaker 1: been politically active during these very strange political times. But

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Speaker 1: my win of the year is getting Jay stew to

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Speaker 1: watch and go, you know, kind of good hoop. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of which I thought Tyrese Halburton was outstanding. He was aggressive,

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Speaker 1: he made big shots. Here's what Alberton said about playing

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Speaker 1: with a bad calf.

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Speaker 3: It's the finals. I, you know, all of us got

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Speaker 3: to get everything we have. You know, do you have

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Speaker 3: everything I have for this group in this locker room.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to come.

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Speaker 3: Out here by the best of my ability.

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Speaker 2: My guys have had my back all year and especially tonight,

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Speaker 3: The world to me. It's okay, it's okay. I got

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Speaker 3: a couple, got a couple of days now to take

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Speaker 3: care of it, get it right, and be ready.

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Speaker 2: You know, we got one game, you know, all cards

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: He also did you hear the line? And I thought

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Speaker 1: it was almost speaking directly to either my daughter Harper

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Speaker 1: or to Jay Stuh that when he's at home, it's

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Speaker 1: before he throws on love love actually I'm not not love. Actually,

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Speaker 1: before he throws on Love Island, he's got to throw

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Speaker 1: some ice on the caf. Did you hear that one?

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Speaker 1: Jay Stu? On television?

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Speaker 3: I saw a reference to Love Island. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 3: that's what he was talking about. What he watches it

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Speaker 1: Yes, or you know, I'm in him and his girlfriend

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Speaker 1: are you know they watched It's it's a like guilty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's off my radar. I've been it's actually

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm so dedicated to Bachelor and Bachelor in

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Speaker 3: Paradise first week of July starts up. For those wondering, ooh.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that is an absolute poop show usually, right, I mean, really, it.

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Speaker 1: It is an abject disaster, but it's it doesn't it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those no one even by Bachelor standards.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows it's it's going to be a disaster, right, everyone, everyone, Everyone,

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Speaker 1: everyone knows. And because of it, you know, because of it,

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Speaker 1: you can't take it seriously. You don't have to take

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Speaker 1: it seriously. It's a very light watch. I would say

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Speaker 1: Love Island a similar type of watch for you. I

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Speaker 1: think different producers. Obviously, you have to find the different people.

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Speaker 1: Whereas the thing that you find with The Bachelor in

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Speaker 1: Paradise is you know these people from your years following

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Speaker 1: and podcasting about The Bachelor. And let's not get sidetracked.

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Speaker 1: The point is okay that I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you can't love Halliburton, right, And I almost like

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Speaker 1: him more because he was so bad in Game five

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Speaker 1: and he's been so good at other times, the game

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Speaker 1: winner in game game one, the performance last night, a

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Speaker 1: invincibility of Lebron and some of these other guys, right

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Speaker 1: because Lebron at the end of the day. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you go back to some of the NBA finals, you know,

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Speaker 1: subsequent years where you know they lost to Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: gargantuan numbers, and so even though I don't think Lebron

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Speaker 1: played great in the fourth quarter of those games, it

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Speaker 1: was really hard to argue with those numbers. So it

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Speaker 1: seemed like, you know, he's just he's that immovable object

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Speaker 1: and irresistible force. Anyway, point being, Halliburton seems very human,

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Speaker 1: which is again all new to us that we don't

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Speaker 1: usually have this, Like Levery Bird didn't have games where

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Speaker 1: he couldn't make a bucket in the NBA finals. Not

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Speaker 1: that I'm comparing, I kind of did compare Tyres Albert

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Speaker 1: let's go to Mark dagnall mcdark knows, the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Oklahoma City Thunder, his team who usually turns

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Speaker 1: others over turn the ball over a ton last night,

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Speaker 1: here's the coach on his team.

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Speaker 5: It was hard tonight. You know, Indiana was great and

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Speaker 5: we were not. So we have the same opportunity Indiana

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Speaker 5: does on Sunday. Scorell by zero zero when the ball

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Speaker 5: goes up in the air. It's a privilege to play

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Speaker 5: in Game sevens. It's a privilege to play in the finals.

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Speaker 5: As disappointing as tonight was, we're grateful for the opportunity.

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Speaker 5: And we put in a lot of work this season

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Speaker 5: to be able to play that game at home, you know,

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Speaker 5: which is exciting to be able to do it in

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Speaker 5: front of our fans. So, you know, obviously disappointed tonight,

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Speaker 5: but we'll regroup, get back to zero, learn from it

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Speaker 5: with clear eyes like we always do, get ourselves as

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Speaker 5: ready as we can be to play Game seven on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show Fox Sports Trader. That's Mark Dagnoll's the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Oklahoma City Thunder. Here's the star

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Speaker 1: Shay Gilders Alexander, the MVP of this year's NBA season,

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Speaker 1: talking about how Game seven against the Nuggets Humble Bragg

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Speaker 1: was there, uh and that blowout went over the Nuggets

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Speaker 1: prepares them for Game seven Sunday night.

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Speaker 6: Fee in the back of our minds for sure. Now,

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Speaker 6: we didn't play like it at all, and that's why

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Speaker 6: the night went the way it did. We got exactly

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Speaker 6: what we deserved, what we earned, and we have to

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Speaker 6: own that. The way, like the way we felt in

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Speaker 6: that series was it's a three to three series zero zero.

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Speaker 6: You have one game to advance and the better team

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Speaker 6: will win. And I think it's the exact same thing

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Speaker 6: because you try to learn from and you try to

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show, Fox Portray. That's Shake Gildas Alexander. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. Here's my honest thought, buyer, this is This

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Speaker 1: is as honest as I can be. You ever have

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Speaker 1: somebody Dan who says I'm a huge sports fan. Oh

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Speaker 1: you're Fox Sports Trade listen all the time? What do

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Speaker 1: you do there? Like, I've been there for how many years?

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Speaker 1: You've been a Fox Sports radio dad? Yeah, I'll get you.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was working at CBS doing the tournament. Oh,

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Speaker 1: huge college basketball fan? It's what do you do? Right? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you'll have if if you tell people I'm a big

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Speaker 1: sports fan. Hey, are you watching Game seven? Nah. Now

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Speaker 1: a huge sports fan, right, I mean, isn't that? Are

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Speaker 1: we okay? I yes, I'm okay shaming people who claim

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Speaker 1: to be sports fans. And you have two teams they

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Speaker 1: don't carry the If you don't like the ego of

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Speaker 1: the Lebron, the ego of the KD, the iso of

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Speaker 1: old school basketball, you're like, you know, I like, I

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Speaker 1: like tame ball better. I just they don't play d like.

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Speaker 1: If you don't like all this, like, just watch the series.

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Speaker 1: But regardless of which, it's one game and decides who's

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Speaker 1: a champion. The crowds have been incredible in the crowd

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Speaker 1: of Oklahoma City. You know, it's loud city, It's it's

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Speaker 1: a remarkable watch. You don't have to know anything about anything.

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Speaker 1: It's Game seven NBA Finals on a Sunday night. What

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Speaker 1: you're watching? I just are you okay with me? I

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Speaker 1: don't care if you I mean, I don't I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to change my opinion. But would you share with

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Speaker 1: me in the opinion that it's a completely phony to

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Speaker 1: say huge sports fan? You don't watch Game seven? Nah?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, absolutely? And I do think that there is

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Speaker 8: there is a parallel with people who don't want to

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Speaker 8: do something. They don't want to go to an event,

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Speaker 8: and they'll have four or five different excuses on why

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Speaker 8: they can't make it, and the reason is usually just

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Speaker 8: one reason. And I feel that's the same way with

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Speaker 8: the NBA. Where my problem and because I've complained about

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Speaker 8: the NBA as well, Doug here if the reg season.

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Speaker 8: Made about the playoffs in championships, So that's what to

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Speaker 8: me diminishes the regular season. And I feel I'd be

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Speaker 8: a you know, a hypocrite if I wasn't invested into

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Speaker 8: obviously invested into Game seven. Now, I mean I have

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Speaker 8: a dog in the fight on Sunday. However, I feel

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Speaker 8: like if you just weren't gonna watch, you weren't gonna

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Speaker 1: But and then you're just broadcasting and brag. But okay,

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Speaker 1: so people who don't, they'll always people. You know, I

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Speaker 1: like the NCAA tournament better won and done, well, that's

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Speaker 1: what you have. You literally have that it's one game

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Speaker 1: you don't have to invest in the rest of it, right,

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Speaker 1: just one game, one game. I just think it exposes

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Speaker 1: You can hardly ask for a better performance, particularly given

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Speaker 9: Okay, I was gonna ask you, I was gonna ask you,

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Speaker 9: going to be able to move salary out but bring

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Speaker 9: new players in. Like, they are so well set up

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Speaker 9: for the future. So in Okase's case, the talk is

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Speaker 9: unavoidable and it will be justified. Look, coming into this finals,

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Speaker 9: I dubbed it the Vibes Finals because we had Miles

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Speaker 9: Turner before this year. He's saying that our team and

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Speaker 9: their team are fueled by the power of friendship, which, like,

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Speaker 9: I don't know how sustainable that is, but I can

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Speaker 9: promise you there are a lot of teams out there

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Speaker 9: that hope Miles Turner is correct, because friendship is something

439
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Speaker 9: you can build without messing up your salary caps. So look,

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Speaker 9: I don't know how sustainable it is. I don't know

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Speaker 9: how replicable it is, if that's even a word, but

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Speaker 9: I mean this, you know it would be it would

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Speaker 9: also you know, it gives hope to the whole league

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Speaker 9: because the Pacers have done it, like you said, with pace,

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Speaker 9: but also with depth. They have gone for Halliburt and

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Speaker 9: Siakam are two very good players. I mean, don't get

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Speaker 9: me wrong, these are two of the fifteen or twenty

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Speaker 9: best players in the league. But they it's the depth

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Speaker 9: that they put around them too, Like they are not

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Speaker 9: trying to do it as a super team whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb show Fox Sport Trader. That's the voice of

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein. Mark. How long after Game seven is the

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Speaker 1: first trade made?

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Speaker 9: Well, look, I mean the first trades already happened to me.

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Speaker 9: I mean that so look, we all have our eyes

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Speaker 9: on Durant. We're all waiting to see how that's going

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Speaker 9: to play out. But I mean Memphis and Orlando did

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Speaker 9: a deal on June fifteen. I mean, that's crazy early

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Speaker 9: ten days before the draft, right in the middle of

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Speaker 9: the finals. You know, it does kind of show you

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Speaker 9: what it underlines and illustrates what a lot of people

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Speaker 9: are expecting. That's the kind of action they're expecting. And

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Speaker 9: it's gonna have to all be trades because nobody has

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Speaker 9: cap space. And to be honest, the free agent class

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Speaker 9: isn't exactly teaming with superstar difference makers because very rarely

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Speaker 9: in the modern NBA do players wait for free agency.

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Speaker 9: Everybody does an extension so they don't have to deal

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Speaker 9: with free agency. So we're gonna see trades, and you

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Speaker 9: are going to see trades on Draft night for sure,

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Speaker 9: because picks are going to be moving around. It's gonna

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Speaker 9: be you know, it will all it will probably all

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Speaker 9: be over by July fourth, but it will be fireworks

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Speaker 9: until July fourth. I'm pretty pretty.

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Speaker 1: Sure what happens. What happens with the Lakers and new ownership, Well, look, in.

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Speaker 9: The short term, in the short term, they have to

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Speaker 9: deal with a salary cap situation that they have, which

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Speaker 9: is they just don't have a great amount of flexibility.

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Speaker 9: But for the long term, I think you're going to

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Speaker 9: see there, you know, the way they've run the Dodgers.

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Speaker 9: I mean, obviously in baseball it's different because there are

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Speaker 9: no limits on free agency and they can sign Otani

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Speaker 9: and then just keep signing great players. You obviously cannot

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Speaker 9: do that in the NBA, but they can. They can

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Speaker 9: beef up infrastructure, they can, you know, by all accounts,

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Speaker 9: I don't see how this isn't a tremendous thing for

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Speaker 9: the Lakers. Now we'll have to see how long Jeanie

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Speaker 9: Buss actually remains as the operating owner of the team.

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Speaker 9: But the Dodgers and the Lakers already had a strong

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Speaker 9: working relationship as it is Magic Johnson, Lon Rosen. These

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Speaker 9: are two of the most integral figures with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 9: and they are you know, lifelong, lifelong Laker people really,

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Speaker 9: So I think a lot of teams in the NBA

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Speaker 9: are nervous about it because again, you can't outspend. It's

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Speaker 9: not even in the NBA. It's not even just the

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Speaker 9: salary cap. It's when you go into the second apron

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Speaker 9: and just all the team building tools you lose. So

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Speaker 9: Steve Balmer has already run into the Steve Balmer would

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Speaker 9: spend anything he could to make the Clippers better. But

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Speaker 9: if you go in the second apron, you can't aggregate

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Speaker 9: salaries and trades or draft picks kept frozen. You just

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Speaker 9: run into all these issues building your team. So being

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Speaker 9: insanely rich it doesn't necessarily give you an advantage in

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Speaker 9: that space. But there are a lot there are lots

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Speaker 9: of other ways to boost your organization and make things happen.

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Speaker 9: And it's it's a very It was a very eye

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Speaker 9: catching development, no question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my question is do they build their

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Speaker 1: own arena?

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Speaker 9: You know, which they certainly can because they'll have the

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Speaker 9: fire answers to do it. But when you realize that

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Speaker 9: it's a purchase price of ten billion and the Lakers

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Speaker 9: don't have their own arena, it just tells you the

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Speaker 9: value of the Laker brand. I mean, Sportico valued the

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Speaker 9: Lakers at eight billion in December, they traded for Luka

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Speaker 9: Doncic in February, and now they're being sold for at

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Speaker 9: least ten million, a figure that some people within the

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Speaker 9: industry think can actually rise. And the Lakers don't own their.

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Speaker 1: Buildings, which is actually And one of the points I'd

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Speaker 1: make is normally your president, your GM and especially as

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Speaker 1: obviously Magic Johnson feels like he's going to try and

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Speaker 1: get back in there, and he and Polinka, I mean

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Speaker 1: that didn't work, but Polinka traded for Luca. I don't

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Speaker 1: see Polinka going anywhere.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that Magic. I don't know what Magic

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Speaker 9: really wants. I mean, your Magic could have stayed with

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Speaker 9: the Lakers. You know, he's the one who left, and

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Speaker 9: you know he's he's doing things with the Dodgers. He

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Speaker 9: obviously has a zillion business interest. I mean, Magic and

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Speaker 9: Genie Buss have been close for decades. If Magic wants

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Speaker 9: to register an opinion about the Lakers, that's never been

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Speaker 9: an issue for him. So I don't know that it's

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Speaker 9: going to change as dramatically as people think. But you know,

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Speaker 9: you look at the way they've run the Dodgers, and

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Speaker 9: how could you if you if the Lakers are your

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Speaker 9: favorite basketball team, how could you not want the same thing?

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Speaker 1: Nick job has been open for a couple of weeks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they've been pushed away by several coaches who have jobs

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Speaker 1: and their organizations have you know, re upped Email Udoka,

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, et cetera. What happens with the nixt job?

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Speaker 9: Well, they can afford to move flow because they have

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Speaker 9: the only opening in the league but the realcity. And look,

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Speaker 9: there are very good coaches available, and Taylor Jenkins and

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Speaker 9: Mike Brown both interviewed this week. But it you know,

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Speaker 9: are the Knicks waiting because they're trying? You know, they

545
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Speaker 9: hope that someone on their initial list can somehow become available.

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Speaker 9: And you just said it. Billy Donovan, I reported last

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Speaker 9: weekend he's in the process of getting an extension with

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Speaker 9: the Bulls, em Udoka and the Rockets already announced an extension.

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Speaker 9: So like, the Knicks can go as fast or slow

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Speaker 9: here as they wish. But again, it is going to

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Speaker 9: if they hire the available coaches Mike Brown, Taylor Jenkins,

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Speaker 9: Michael Malone, Mike Budenolzer, Frank Vogel, Like, they're going to

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Speaker 9: have to do a press conference eventually where they have

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Speaker 9: to explain to the public, you know, what number choice

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Speaker 9: is it that they've hired. I mean, they they went

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Speaker 9: for five fitting coaches and couldn't speak to any of them.

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Speaker 9: So it's going to be it's going to be a

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Speaker 9: very interesting cell to see how the Knicks approached that,

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Speaker 9: because again the shock that Tom Thibodeau was not as

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Speaker 9: significant as you would have thought. The shock really stemmed

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Speaker 9: from the fact that so many teams, so many rival teams,

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Speaker 9: looked at this and said, surely the Knicks know the

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Speaker 9: direction they're going if they're firing the coach who's the

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Speaker 9: most successful coach they'd had in the twenty first century.

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Speaker 9: And as they've shown us, they clearly they did not

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Speaker 9: know who they could get after firing Tom Tibodeau, and

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Speaker 9: that is where the shock factor lies.

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Speaker 1: He is Mark Stein. He publishes a substack and you

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Speaker 1: need to download it, you need to read it. It's

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Speaker 1: the Stein Line, longtime NBA reporter and insider. Stein thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Enjoy Game seven. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 9: Don't be so hard on yourself. You were not TJ McConnell,

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Speaker 9: but you could pass a little, So don't gey ooe

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Speaker 9: the on yourself.

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Speaker 1: One of what you Doug Gottlieb show Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: coming to you from two parts to Wisconsin and Los Angeles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what we do by coastal. We'll bring up the

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Speaker 1: start of the second hour. Reminder you can download the

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Speaker 1: in the post game. Mark Stein will join us twenty

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Speaker 1: five after the hour. We'll ask the Steinline about Game seven,

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Speaker 1: and of course about the stuff that I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: remarkably more people seem to care about, which is the

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Speaker 1: non basketball of the NBA. With trade and movement season

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Speaker 1: just days away from taking place, got the press, got

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Speaker 1: other things for you, got all the updates from the

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Speaker 1: Travelers Championship VR guy Dan Byer. So let's set it up.

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Speaker 1: Last night was Dodgers Padres. It's baseball. And you're like, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 1: You know, Game six of the NBA Finals was last night, Gottley,

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Speaker 1: But I get it, Okay, but dogs and you had

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Speaker 1: the h you had the benches clear. You know, you

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Speaker 1: had more than a kerfuffle. Now that's a bit of

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Speaker 1: a bean ball war that had begun previous days, right,

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Speaker 1: and remember you go back to last year when the

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Speaker 1: Padres had the Dodgers that was in two games to one,

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Speaker 1: Jase two and seemed to have him dead to rights.

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Speaker 1: And if you remember at the time the the Padres were,

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Speaker 1: they were running their mouths. And again it's it's actually

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Speaker 1: how they do what they do. They have some guys

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Speaker 1: that that's how they play. It's how they play. It's

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Speaker 1: a loud group. And then yeah, Dave Roberts came up

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Speaker 1: with some story of a ball being thrown in his

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Speaker 1: direction and the pond for the review it was not.

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Speaker 1: But whatever it took, the Dodgers rallied, won the series,

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Speaker 1: went on to win the World Series. So not. You

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Speaker 1: don't just have two teams to spend a lot. Obviously

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Speaker 1: Dodgers spend more. You have some bitterness, you know between

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Speaker 1: the clubs over former Dodgers playing for the Padres. You

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Speaker 1: have San Diego people, you know, let's just be honest.

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Speaker 1: They like Philadelphia, their little brother to Los Angeles. They

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Speaker 1: got some really cool things. Who doesn't love San Diego.

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Speaker 1: But there's definitely an insecurity there. And then you have

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Speaker 1: the idea that two years ago Padres knocked the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. Last year they were knocking on

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Speaker 1: the door of it talking a bunch of ish, as

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Speaker 1: the kids say, only to succumb to the Dodgers and

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Speaker 1: then ultimately Dodgers win the World Series. Did I sum

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Speaker 1: it up well off there? Uh Jase Doo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good setup. I like to

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Speaker 3: just say that the Dodgers play the right way and

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Speaker 3: the Podres do not. So this last night was the

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Speaker 3: fourth game of a four game series. Each game had

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Speaker 3: a significant amount of tension last night was pretty darn quiet.

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Speaker 3: In fact, the Dodgers did. I think what they've done

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Speaker 3: a couple of times this year. It's an odd trait,

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Speaker 3: but they do it. They basically punted the game. It

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Speaker 3: was five to nothing in the ninth and Dave Roberts

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Speaker 3: put a rookie in just to kind of finish out

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Speaker 3: the game. A pitch gets away from the rookie and

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Speaker 3: his tattoos, so it looked bad, but I really do

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Speaker 3: think it got away from him. So of course the Padres.

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Speaker 3: They can't let sleeping dogs lie. They had to hit

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Speaker 3: Shoho Tani in the bottom of the ninth thankfully show Hey,

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Speaker 3: and I want to say it's a cultural thing. He

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Speaker 3: just kind of wanted to de escalate. He's like, there's

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Speaker 3: no need to empty the benches again. But before that,

643
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: there was a significant brewha haa where Mike Shilty and

644
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: Dave Roberts got into it on the field. You rarely

645
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: see managers basically go up cap to cap and start

646
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: yelling at each other. It was pretty exciting.

647
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. The Padres feel like they've replaced the Giants.

648
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Is that fair as the rival if you will of

649
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: the Dodgers.

650
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really want to use the word rival. I

651
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: think even Daniel Jeremiah are our resident Padre fan, he

652
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: acknowledges it as the most exciting matchup in baseball right now.

653
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: That's a great way to say right now, in this moment.

654
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: But the Giants and Dodgers Quebec one hundred and forty.

655
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: Years, Yeah, what's kind of the only exciting right because Cubs,

656
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: Cardinals not the same, Red Sox, Yankees not the same.

657
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 13: Doug if I may, I feel like not being a

658
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 13: Dodgers fan around here and not being any connection to

659
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 13: the Padres either, but being from the Midwest, I feel

660
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 13: like there's a good analogy I've taken from college baseball

661
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 13: and what I mean football. Excuse me of what's gone

662
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 13: on with the pot with this Giants Dodgers Padres and that. Okay,

663
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 13: the Dodgers are Michigan, the Giants obviously are Ohio State,

664
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 13: but Padres are Michigan State. They're the little brother, and

665
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 13: big brother never wants to admit little brother is a

666
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 13: rival until you really start to get punched in the

667
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 13: face and start getting really kind of upset about it.

668
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 13: And it feels like that's where we're at right now,

669
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 13: and that the Padres, like Dodgers, are having to reckon

670
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 13: the fact that hey, the Padres, your little brother, are

671
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 13: good enough to hang with you, and you you're kind

672
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 13: of begrudgingly trying to find ways not to call them

673
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 13: your rival because you have this other rival over here

674
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 13: that you have so much more history with.

675
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: I still think the Dodgers are the nemesis of the Padres.

676
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: I still think the Dodgers are the nemesis of the Padress.

677
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 13: No, no, no, I'm just saying it's one it's one way.

678
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 13: It's the Padres absolutely think the Dodgers are their rival.

679
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 13: It's just the Dodgers fans would like to think it's

680
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 13: the Giants are their rival and not reciprocate it to

681
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 13: the Padres.

682
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: No, the Giants have been the rival. Yeah, right, they

683
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: go back to New York together. That's that's the point

684
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: that that Jason was making. And the Giants have won.

685
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: Whether they win three World Series in six years or whatever,

686
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, buy it. What about you? You give

687
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: me your thoughts? Yeah.

688
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 8: The example that I would use is, actually, Doug in

689
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 8: your backyard, Packers Bears is the historic rivalry, but the

690
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 8: Packers Vikings is one of itself, and I always just

691
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 8: point to the packer meme. The packer joke is an

692
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 8: empty bookshelf or an empty trophy case. And then then

693
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 8: it's saying this is the Minnesota Vikings trophy case where

694
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 8: they like poke fun, but there is there is this

695
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 8: I don't know if hatred is the right word, but

696
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 8: it sure gets to that way.

697
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: I almost I don't.

698
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 8: I don't want to say that the Bears and Packers

699
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 8: respect each other, but there is the tradition that Jason

700
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 8: Stewart talks about that is evident in the Packers and Bears,

701
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 8: Whereas when the Vikings came along, they were kind of

702
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 8: thought of as the new kid on the block as

703
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 8: a in that division and with those teams no offense

704
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 8: to the Lions, but they just hadn't been a part

705
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 8: of the conversation until recently, where I feel like the

706
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 8: Padres play the role of the Vikings where they really

707
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 8: haven't won anything yet. They're trying to be the rival

708
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 8: of the Dodgers, and sure Minnesota may get the best

709
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 8: of green Bay here or there, they don't have any

710
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 8: Super Bowl trophies to show for it, where green Bay does,

711
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 8: and Chicago's got their history, and they do have a

712
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 8: Super Bowl. But that's how I kind of feel about

713
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 8: the rivalry, to compare it to another sports rivalry.

714
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: Here's another kind of point to add to your point,

715
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, to add to your point, dan Is, I

716
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: think the Vikings thing has always been, Yeah, they haven't

717
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: won anything whatever. Adding farv changed its some, right, I'm

718
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: sure is that fair?

719
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

720
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: And then adding many changed it some for the Padres

721
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: and the Dodgers.

722
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, different levels, but because many you know wasn't.

723
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, made Machada was on a Dodger for like like

724
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: a minute, right as opposed to Farvos forever. But part

725
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: of it was, you know, Manny's a guy who you know,

726
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: when he first got there, really liked to talk to.

727
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 8: There's what There's also the just the geography of it, yes,

728
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 8: which you know plays such a role. And it's interesting

729
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 8: because where you are right now, there is nothing more

730
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 8: annoying to someone from Wisconsin than a car with an

731
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 8: Illinois license plate on it in the summertime. Like, it's true,

732
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 8: and I think that you would look at the Twin

733
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 8: Cities and even though Minnesota is Minneapolis right on the

734
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 8: border basically between Wisconsin and Minnesota, like the Packer fans

735
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 8: are so prevalent. It's not like there's Minnesota fans in

736
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 8: western Wisconsin. It's all Green Bay. And it actually maybe

737
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 8: the other way around that. There are you know, Packer

738
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 8: fans in the Twin Cities area, and so there's a

739
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 8: there's a weird blend there of fans and kids who

740
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 8: go to high school in Minnesota they go to Wisconsin,

741
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 8: you know, possibly I you know, bunch of friends of

742
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 8: mine are from the state of Minnesota, so you have

743
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 8: that crossover Chicago.

744
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: Same thing.

745
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 8: Geography just plays such a huge role of it, of

746
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 8: the blend of the cities and whatnot. Yet there is

747
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 8: a separation specifically with the Giants and Dodgers because it's

748
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 8: northern California southern Calilifornia, and there's that straight line, you know,

749
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 8: Gurnie Mills is the state line with the Wisconsin and Illinois.

750
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 4: So there's something to that as well.

751
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 13: And I think because the trophy case is empty, it

752
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 13: means these small victories you get over the Dodgers mean

753
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 13: a lot more again to the Michigan State Michigan thing too,

754
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 13: like I know a bunch of Michigan State fans they

755
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 13: still hold onto the trouble with a snap game where

756
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 13: Michigan loses that game by bobbling the punt and it

757
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 13: gets straight and it gets stripped out, taken into the

758
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 13: end zone, no time left for the touchdown. But like

759
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 13: that's held on to by the little brother.

760
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 8: How many Michigan State Michigan games now off there have

761
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 8: been fights afterwards, And I go back to even of

762
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 8: what we see last night with the Padres to Jason's

763
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 8: point where a lot of this is San Diego instigated.

764
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 8: It feels like like the Packers aren't annocent in the

765
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 8: Bears rivalry from the nineteen eighties when Green Bay wasn't

766
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 8: anything and the Bears were dominant and you had Charles

767
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 8: Martin throwing Jim McMahon to the ground, you got players

768
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 8: shoving players into opposing benches. Like there is a bit

769
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 8: of that as well with it when you're, you know,

770
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 8: talking about a rivalry, but sometimes it's the team that

771
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 8: doesn't want anything, that seems to stoop to a lower

772
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 8: level that then makes it a rivalry or something that

773
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 8: has to be dealt with.

774
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: What I like, what I like about the Michigan State analogy,

775
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: and I'm not from there, so this is kind of

776
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: an outside looking in perspective. Michigan State seems to play

777
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: the role of the Padres in this and that it's

778
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: only quote a rivalry when the Padres have a good team.

779
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 3: You know, Michigan is the juggernaut there, and when Michigan

780
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: State has a good team, then I think they consider

781
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: themselves that rival.

782
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's just ten years ago with Nardoozi as the coach, right,

783
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 13: they were like of equal standing.

784
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 3: For one. It just doesn't happen all the time. Dodgers

785
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: and Giants are the Ohio State Michigan. They're always going

786
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: to be kind of the halves and the teams that

787
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: are the biggest rival. But yeah, when Michigan State's really good,

788
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: I guess that's when the rivalry kind of kicks in.

789
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: That's the same way the Potterys are good now and

790
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: they're ride and high, and we all know it'll go

791
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: away sooner than later.

792
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: You know what, what I find to be the best

793
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: part of it is, did you guys see show Hey

794
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: when he got hit first? You know, he got hit

795
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: in the leg, And look when they when they ding

796
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: Show Hey, that's where you hit a guy, right, It

797
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: still hurts in the thigh but that's what you're supposed

798
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: to do. But you know, one he pointed the dugout

799
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm good, and then two he's literally laughing. He's laughing

800
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: at them. You know, I think that's that's that's perfect

801
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: big brother material right there.

802
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 8: Can I tell you what popped into my head, which

803
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 8: I go so I totally get when you're from I'm

804
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 8: a foreign country and you're speaking with the media, you

805
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 8: want to make sure that your words are exact. Hideki

806
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 8: Matsuyama doesn't on the PGA tour uses an interpreter to

807
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 8: speak with the media, but shohe was talking to Luisa

808
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 8: Rayes and was talking to Is the cronin Worth. They

809
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 8: were having a conversation, and so then you're like, Okay, well,

810
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 8: then why is show he having an interpreter always with

811
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 8: the team right places? Bet I didn't want to say it.

812
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 8: I didn't want to say it. I get the media

813
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 8: aspect of it. You don't want to say something that

814
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 8: you know could be wrong because maybe you don't speak as.

815
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: Fluent in that language.

816
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 8: But I just thought it was interesting that he was

817
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 8: having full blown conversations with whoever was at first for

818
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 8: the Padres at that time.

819
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 4: Last night.

820
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it could have been like Serrano though in

821
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: Major League. You bring that to me, man, you bring

822
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: that to me.

823
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: Could we place Silty last night, because uh, he's got

824
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 3: himself a red ass and there was just a great

825
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: exchange last night. Shilty and Roberts are yelling at each other.

826
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: Roberts is using blue language, the rookie who came in

827
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: in the ninth that hit tattoos?

828
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: What what is blue language?

829
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: Huh? What little like in comedy, just you know, foul words.

830
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: I want to know, are you calling Shilty like as

831
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: a nickname.

832
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 3: I've never heard Shilty before.

833
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, what's his name? Mike Shilt?

834
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

835
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 8: I thought it was like like you like, oh, that's funny,

836
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 8: previous history with them.

837
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guarantee in the club, in the clubhouse, he's Shilty.

838
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah that's what I thought too.

839
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: Just listen to the how worked up he is? Do

840
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: you have that the mic shilt sound?

841
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 9: Yeah?

842
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 13: Yeah, but which one? We've got two different Mike Shilts

843
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 13: and we're playing production. Okay, okay, the bottom one.

844
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 11: Oh no, Tatis got hit in little the rookie spins

845
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 11: tattoos around.

846
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 13: Mike Schildt is furious coming out of the dugout.

847
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 9: Do you think the pitch was intentional to hit Tetist

848
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 9: tonight in that spot.

849
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 7: I'd like to think not, but I can't say that.

850
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 7: Only a couple of people know that. And whether it

851
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 7: was or it wasn't, enough is enough. You know, we

852
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 7: got a guy that's getting the X rays right now.

853
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 7: It's one of the best players in the game, of course,

854
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 7: on our team. And this guy's getting has taken shots

855
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 7: and before the series, you know we hadn't. And I

856
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 7: can back this up with complete evidence. You know, track

857
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 7: records speak for themselves. The teams that I managed don't

858
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 7: get into altercation like this because teams I managed don't

859
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Speaker 7: throwing people. But also teams I managed don't take anything.

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Speaker 1: And after a.

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Speaker 7: While, I'm not going to take it, and I'm not

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Speaker 7: going to take it on behalf of Toddy. I'm not

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Speaker 7: going to take it on behalf of our team. Intentional

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Speaker 7: aren't intentional, truly, that's simple. That's how this game's played.

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Speaker 7: And you want to call that old school, then yeah,

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Speaker 7: we'll play old school baseball.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind old school baseball. I think baseball needs this.

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Speaker 1: It just does. And And look, you know, I've heard

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Speaker 1: people who have no sense of history, and they talk

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Speaker 1: about basketball and they let them fight and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: you don't remember Kermit Washington and what happened there. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, the pushing and the shoving. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some brawls, but again just the idea of

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Speaker 1: a little bit of beanball guys being managers coming out

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Speaker 1: and going chest to chess like I I gotta tell

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Speaker 1: you it's it's it's actually really good.

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Speaker 4: I'll also say this, that's just shilty being shilty.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's all it is. Yeah, that's so shilty

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Speaker 4: right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you know it shilty. You

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Speaker 1: know shilty at Murph and Smitty, Yeah, shilty Murph and Smitty,

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Speaker 1: those guys are they're all cut from the same.

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Speaker 4: When d Rob comes out, it was like, you know, it's.

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Speaker 1: The Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Uh oh, that

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Speaker 1: was fun.