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Speaker 2: Jesus, No, you fit in seamlessly in this weird mknviron.

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Speaker 1: No, hell no, now y'all done up and done it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome on this twenty seventh day of February here in

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Speaker 1: the year of Our Lord twenty twenty six. My name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas, and welcome to another episode of Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Know that it is not Brian Campbell. It is not

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Speaker 1: he has not returned yet. In fact, uh it's not.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's say this gentleman is normal and friendly and nice.

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Speaker 1: Let's get right to it. How does I mentioned with Thomas,

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Speaker 1: I join you for the capital of the status and

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Speaker 1: needles right here in Washington, c joined by my friend.

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Speaker 1: You can see him on the other side of the screen.

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Speaker 1: He is a play by play commentator and much more

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Speaker 1: for Claudo Sports in Mexico. It's Rodrigo del Campo. Rodrigo,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Can I just start by saying, first of all, thank

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Speaker 3: you to everyone and good reception this morning. But also

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Speaker 3: one of my jobs is close to a restaurant that

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Speaker 3: frequent often which I'm not gonna say the name because

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Speaker 3: they don't pay pay for advertising space on this show,

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Speaker 3: but they do specialize in their margaritas. And you've ruined

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Speaker 4: For me.

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Speaker 3: Because every time, every time I see margarita somewhere my head.

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Speaker 3: He needed a place do you want to margarita From

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Speaker 3: the start of the show. I can mean the supermarket,

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Speaker 3: I just see margarita mix, I can meet at a restaurant.

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Speaker 3: It is your voice in my head. At least three

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Speaker 1: Week, I'm feeling these margarita.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. That's my head every time I

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Speaker 3: go to the supermarket. But thank you for the invitation.

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Speaker 3: Glad to be here. Talk to me a little bit

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Speaker 4: we got UFC Mexico City tomorrow. I'm hyped, Rodrigo.

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Speaker 3: So that is not weird at all. But the embassy

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Speaker 1: Who is the most popular Mexican fighter in Mexico, not

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Speaker 3: I think it would be Brandon. I honestly think it

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Speaker 3: I didn't like that. He said, okay, you tell me

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Speaker 3: who has a very different perspective on all of this

434
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 3: than Brenda and Royval, than you, than me, even even

435
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 3: you and I with immigrant wives. Right living there in

436
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 3: the border where the fight is gives you a very

437
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: different perspective. One of my brothers lived there for twenty

438
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: five years, and the perspective is very different. And I

439
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't expect any border kid in Mexico to actually raise

440
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: their hand and go through the White House card.

441
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Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about the fight itself, though,

442
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: Do you not share this assessment of this is it's

443
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: kind of a risky fight here for Brandon, I know

444
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: your point, like he didn't want to let anyone down.

445
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Lonnie Cavanaugh is the toughest challenge,

446
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 1: but he's definitely tough enough that if you're not on

447
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: your p's and q's or I know it's early to say,

448
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: and I'm not.

449
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 3: I'm not.

450
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm not endorsing the idea that that Moreno is on

451
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: the decline. I am saying he's coming off of a

452
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: real bad loss, or a pretty bad loss anyway, and

453
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: he's got a guy who is dangerous enough where you

454
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: can't really mess around. But if you lose, it's terrible

455
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: for your career. And if you win, it's not nothing, certainly,

456
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: but it doesn't you're just kind of holding serve. It's

457
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: a risky ass fight.

458
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Speaker 3: Uh, if you haven't seen Lonny Kevin fight, watch him fight.

459
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: He's a good ass fighter. He's really good. I think

460
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 3: there was a lot of mistakes in the last fight.

461
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: He definitely got gassed. I'm wondering what's gonna happen here

462
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: on Saturday. He's been here for two weeks. I don't

463
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Speaker 3: think that's enough for you to have a full guess.

464
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: Thank in Mexico City, it's not bad at all. I

465
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: think a month minimuments what you need. But of course,

466
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 3: like it's an expense. I asked him if it was

467
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: any hesitation and fight in Mexico City, because he's an

468
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: expensive card to fight in. You need to get acclimated.

469
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 3: If you use out here, you're gonna you're gonna fistle

470
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 3: out on Saturday. That's a little bit of a question

471
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: just biology, right. But he hits hard, he puts pressure

472
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: on you, He packs a punch, good on his scrambles,

473
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: switches things up, has a lot of experience in the

474
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: corner with Nathaniel Wood, with Brad Pickt, with his coaches,

475
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: and Brendler knows that No, he's very he's still angry

476
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: look about the stoppings and that that's sort of titi fight.

477
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: But he's very conscious that he flat out lost that

478
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 3: second round, that he was getting dominated on the second round,

479
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: that he couldn't do anything on that second round. But

480
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: he did want the last five minutes right to try

481
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: and get the fight back. And he's very he's very

482
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: knowledgeable on the risk. He knows like I win, I do,

483
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: it does nothing for me. I lose. Back of the

484
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 3: light in this division is way too.

485
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Speaker 1: Long for me. I'm gonna say, in terms of keys

486
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: to victory on this one, I was just kind of

487
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: thinking about this. Surprisingly, I was looking at this dude.

488
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: Lonnie Kavanaugh's takedown defense is really good, really good, eighty

489
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: eight percent on the career. And even if you look

490
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Speaker 1: at like the one for example, that Charles Johnson got

491
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: him with he was he fed a mcguillotine. He was

492
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: able to stand up almost immediately from there. So in

493
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Speaker 1: your estimation, Rodrigo, what would you say are Brandon's keys

494
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: to victory? Is it getting to the back, is it

495
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: counter punching the thing you mentioned on the feet. I

496
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: totally agree with Kavanaugh a buried, offensively dynamic threat. However,

497
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: in the Felipe dos Santos fight and in the Charles

498
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: Johnson fight getting clipped with big shots with his hands down,

499
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: he does appear to be defensively vulnerable. Walk me through

500
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Speaker 1: what you see as the keys to victory for Brandon

501
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: moreno for.

502
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: Me in what I have in my note since pressure

503
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: him and initiate. I think that's what Brandon needs because

504
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: that's when Lannie's worse, when he's backing up. We doesn't

505
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 3: have any tent to set up. And a lot of

506
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: the success that had in that fight against one I know,

507
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: is because he got him at a position in the

508
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: second row. If you remember, the first one was basically

509
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: holding a triangle. They couldn't get they couldn't get a

510
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 3: up because he was holding a really deep triangle at

511
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: some top points of the first round, right. But in

512
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: the second one, what the Tudo title did was just

513
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: pressure him, get him out of position recent quickly, and

514
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: just not let Brandon go for it. I think for Brandon,

515
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure, which is what he likes, even

516
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: when he's not throwing. Look, Brandon sometimes very good at

517
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: pressuring you with position, right, he's walking forward, he's fainting,

518
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: he's faking, he loves his chap, he loves his three

519
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: and just trying to get you out of position. And

520
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: I think that's when Lonnie is really better. You remember

521
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: the finish in the Chell's fight and Charles Johnson fight.

522
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: It's excitingly when Johnson just starts walking him down and

523
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 3: Lonnie even gets flat footed a couple of times, gets

524
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: even fooded a couple of times when he's backing out,

525
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: And I think that might be the key for Brandon

526
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: on Saturday.

527
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, he tried to greet Johnson with the right hand.

528
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: I think either partially landed or you know, didn't land

529
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: at all, and then just peels and then just peels,

530
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: and then he gets clipped a huge shot. As a consequence,

531
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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree. I think pressure is gonna be key.

532
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: I think initially he's an interesting one too. Also, you

533
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: gotta have an answer for the leg kicks. I feel

534
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: like of Lonnie Kavanaugh, those are devastating hard leg kicks.

535
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: They were hard on the Charles Johnson fight, They're hard

536
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: in the Delcanto's fight. They're hard on a bunch of them.

537
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: That's a really big key for me. Now looking at

538
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: the odds here Long Island, Luke, we've got Brandon Moreno

539
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: sitting at minus two eighteen from our friends with DraftKings

540
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: Lonnie Kavanaugh plus one pint eighty. Do you think that

541
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: this is a fair assessment of the odds?

542
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

543
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: I know this fight is weird to me. I know

544
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 4: this is a weird comparison, But this fight is reminding

545
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 4: me a lot of Tatsuro Tyra when he took on

546
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 4: Young Sung Park. He was supposed to fight a Mira

547
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: al Basi, and then like a week out, Young Sung

548
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 4: Park steps in and like, I don't know if everyone

549
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: just bought into the hype, but everyone's like, oh, this

550
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 4: Hung Sung Park guy, this guy is the next thing.

551
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: He's gonna be great, and then Tatsuo Tyra just kind

552
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 4: of had his way with him over like two rounds.

553
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 4: I almost feel like this is a little too much

554
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 4: too soon for Lonnie, where like Moreno is just gonna

555
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 4: have his way with him. But I can't actually put

556
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: my money where my mouth is. Personally, I'm taking the

557
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: over two and a half in this. I think it

558
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: goes a little long, especially like past the three round mark.

559
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 4: You know, Lonnie did gas out in his last fight,

560
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 4: and this is obviously five rounds and it's in Mexico City.

561
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 4: But I do feel like he's probably learned his lesson.

562
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: I know John Gooden was just over with him while

563
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: he was training and he said he was running like,

564
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: you know, like crazy every day, So I feel I mean,

565
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: I'm sure every guy does that, but you know what

566
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he's trying to get his cardio up. So

567
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: we'll see. But I really can't pick aside my gun

568
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: to my head, I'm going Moreno decision, But you know,

569
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 4: we'll see.

570
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: I've known a lot of guys who've run a lot

571
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: before coming to Mexico City, and then they actually faced

572
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 3: biology and chemistry, which is what altitude is, right, You

573
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: can't that run altitude. You can be in the best

574
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 3: ship of the of your life. There's a lot of

575
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: pollution and there's no air. There's no air. You've been

576
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: to Luke worse.

577
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: Dude, I get I get the I don't know what

578
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: you'll call in Mexico, but I get sodace. I got

579
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: altitude sickness every time I go, every time I go.

580
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: And just suck it up and drink water. There's not

581
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: a lot a lot of you can do. By the way, Also,

582
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: just to add a lot of people maybe don't know

583
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: this in the US, Brandon has been working as an

584
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: analyst for the UFC broadcast in Spanish for a bid.

585
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: Now he's become way better and analyzing and I think

586
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: he's called every single fighter Lonny's career.

587
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

588
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: He said he has stunted him before even facing him.

589
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: He studed him for his notes and then he called

590
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: his fights and now he's fighting him. So there's more

591
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: knowledge than them than from the coma fighter.

592
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: Last question on Brandon before we moved to the rest

593
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: of the card very quickly, which is I'm not in

594
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: any way at all suggesting he is washed. What I

595
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: am going to ask is and it's a loaded question.

596
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: So take it how you want to take it. Okay,

597
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: take it how you want to take it. Does the

598
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Tatsuro Tira fight prove that Brandon is post peak?

599
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: Well, if he had had a bad fight against them Albassi,

600
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: I would say yes. But he did have a great

601
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: fight against Albasi, So I'll be saying I just today,

602
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: for me, it's a bad night. I would have to

603
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: see him have another bad fight for me to say that.

604
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: It's been ten years in the UFC, it's been in October,

605
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: It's gonna be ten years in the UFC. It's been

606
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: a long career. But uh, for me, if you have

607
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: two consecutive bad fights, then maybe your past of your peak.

608
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: I think the Albassi fights showed me something, even though

609
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: that sort of dyfed was not that good.

610
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, we got to get to the

611
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: fight that I am the most excited about on this card,

612
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: and Long Island Luke will back me up on this.

613
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: Rodrigo the co main event. We had done our list for,

614
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: like you know, guys were watching this year who I

615
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: think is going to have a breakout year? And number

616
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: one on my list was David Martinez. David Martinez or

617
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: David Martinez. This guy, to me looks like he's got

618
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: the goods. He is fast, he is aggressive, he can scramble,

619
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: he can strike, He fights with attitude and meanness and

620
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: just got a certain kind of quickness. And that's real

621
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: difficult because here comes Cheeto Vera, speaking of guys who

622
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: appear to be very much post peak in a really

623
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: really difficult stretch of his career. Vera, by the way,

624
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: enters this contest having won one of his last five.

625
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: He lost to Corey Sanhagen via a decision, lost to

626
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: Sean O'Malley via decision devison Figueredo, and you could say, well,

627
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: those guys were all either champion or you know, pretty

628
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: close to championship quality. But then he lost to Iman Zahabby,

629
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: and here comes David Martinez on an absolute hot streak.

630
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: The big one for me, Rob font now Rodriguo. Obviously,

631
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: David Martinez has not fought anybody, even Rob Fonn, a

632
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: pretty high quality fighter, not quite the quality I would

633
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: say at his peak. Anyway of Cheeto Vera, size this

634
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: one up for me. Who is David Martinez? Do you

635
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: share my enthusiasm for him? And what do you think

636
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: is possible this year. Do you agree that? Not only

637
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: do I like his chances in this fight, but I

638
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: actually think he could have a breakout twenty twenty six.

639
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree percent. He's just such a

640
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: great fighter, good kid, very aggressive. Can't teach me, right,

641
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: you can't teach it. And guys just meaning the cage,

642
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: he just really meaning the cauge. That's not a thing.

643
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: But I also remember, h David has had a lot

644
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: of competition throughout his slide martial artists since he was

645
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: a kid. Both parents black belts, says the former UFC

646
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: fighter Meli Martinez, a black belt, and he's competing in

647
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: kickboxing and karate every forever at a decent level, like

648
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: World Games level, and it just gives you always remember

649
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: the map I quote about the step and wonderboard supposed streak, right,

650
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: it's one hundred and whatever fights wanting kickboxing, and Matt was. Look,

651
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: even if he didn't win it, he fought one hundred

652
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: and something fights. He always got up, he always made weight,

653
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: he was always in camp, he was always training, and

654
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: that just gives you the mindset of a competitor. I

655
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: think that's really what David has. I think there he

656
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: has two enemies and Saturday obviously Chito, which is the

657
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: highest quality fighter he's ever face, but also expectations. When

658
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: the car was announced, Look, they were still trying to

659
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: close this fight for the announcement. They couldn't do it

660
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: in time for the announcement. Came back a couple of

661
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: weeks later. My entire social media feed was just full

662
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: of people asking Donna, tell Looktor, they're asking for the doctor.

663
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: They call him the doctor. He's a doctor. Don't tell

664
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: loot doctor, doctor doctor. Every single message just wanted David

665
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: Martinez on the show and that he knows this. So

666
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: the expectations from the crowd are incredibly high. So he's

667
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: fighting the expectations. He's fighting Cheeto, fighting as a coman,

668
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: fighting with sixteen thousand Mannix in the arena. It's gonna

669
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: be a good one. I love him as a fighter.

670
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: I love his aggressive and his love that he can

671
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: switch danzas. I love him as a fighter.

672
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: Bro, I gotta tell you I love him as a

673
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: fighter too, But I want to focus here on Cheeto.

674
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: With the time we have, which is I'm not sure

675
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: what to say it here. I guess I mentioned I

676
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: went through his record he did, he wasn't and before

677
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: that he lost to Aldo and you know Song and

678
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: Dong all that. But now we're back in twenty twenty

679
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: against a little far back. But they're recent ones, they're

680
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: they're they're not bad losses. But then the split to

681
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: Iman here to me seems to be one of the

682
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: key problems as I as I best I can tell Rodrigo,

683
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: which is that I just there was a so Cheeto

684
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: has always had a fucking iron chin. I'll say this,

685
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: if David Martinez stops him, that would be an enormous

686
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: victory because basically, no one else of any kind of

687
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: notice every I don't think anyone's ever done that, certainly

688
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: not in the UFC. Maybe maybe not even early in

689
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, I mean, he's had an iron chin,

690
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: just a complete and you thought, okay, if you can

691
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: use that and really put that together, put some skills

692
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: behind it. And he was training with some great guys,

693
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, he could do something with that, and for

694
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: a while he was. For a while he was making

695
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: some moves in that direction. But it feels to me

696
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: like things have stalled, and I'm not entirely sure why

697
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: is that? The training environment is a motivation. Again, he

698
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: wasn't fighting scrubs for the most part, and I'm not

699
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: even saying he's not. It's some kind of bad fighter,

700
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: but I don't put him necessarily on the level of

701
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: some of the other guys he was there. He, in

702
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 1: my opinion, has stalled out at the worst possible time,

703
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: right when you've got young guys in their late twenties

704
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: absolutely on a tear. What is your read on why

705
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: Cheeto Vera has kind of seemingly plateaued well?

706
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: Number one, speaking about his chain with your friends. My

707
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: friend's our friend, and he'said I did the previous yesterday.

708
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: I think that it is gonna knock him out.

709
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: Holy shit. So that'd be so big if he did.

710
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if he gets Cheetahs first stoppage. Wow, Bro,

711
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 3: that'd be gigantic. And my thing is they obviously gave

712
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: him Dame and Sahabi fighters a competitive fight. Okay, you

713
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: can't with the elite? Can you hang with Sahabi? And

714
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: then I watched it during the week and I rewatched

715
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 3: this morning, and to me, it's insane that Cheito led

716
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 3: Sahabi had so many moments throughout the fight. It's again,

717
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 3: I don't want to minimize him a Sabi has under

718
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: the sport, but she does that a lot more. And

719
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: if you're in a fight where you get to split

720
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: decision and you let him get so many moments in

721
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: the fight and you don't pressure him enough and you

722
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 3: let him reset, I'm so sorry if you let that.

723
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: River said, he's gonna knock you out, and we're gonna

724
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: get open stances too, because Dabit can switch. But he's

725
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: a lefty. I don't know how much lefty Cheeto has him.

726
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 3: Now if if you give him an up in stance,

727
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: David with that power on the two, with that power

728
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: on the high kick, you and dip trouble and Saturday.

729
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: No question about it, no question about it. I'm looking

730
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: at some of these stats here for the two of them,

731
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: the numbers for David Martinez are are so much better.

732
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: For example, strikes landed permitted for David Martinez four point

733
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: eight five, and you say, all right, will War's Cheeto

734
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: four point two five. That's not bad. That's that's a

735
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: huge difference. However, Martinez strikes absorbed two point nine to five,

736
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: so he's got a nearly double integer positive differential and

737
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: Marlon Vera five point three seven. And again it's not

738
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: like he can't take it, but it just seems like

739
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: people are able to set the tone on him. They

740
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,479
Speaker 1: can they can land and get away, they can slow

741
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: it down like he's just he's constantly covering up. And

742
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: like the thing that kills me is you never see

743
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: Cheeto like slip and rip. It's just block and then go.

744
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: And then against guys like O'Malley and sand Haagen, they're gone. Well, well,

745
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: David Martinez has some of the fastest feet I've ever

746
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: seen in this division. This seems like a real by

747
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: the way, going to the odds here as well, Rodrigo,

748
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: the odds here on this fight Marlon Vera plus two

749
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: thirty five, oh, David Martinez minus two ninety The odds

750
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: makers think I'm wipeout is a strong word, but they

751
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: definitely like Martinez's chances here.

752
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're close to mines State hundred, that's almost

753
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: close to a WiFi, right, Yeah, he has everything against him,

754
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: cheat diad and I just want to give him his

755
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: flowers for a second, because of course we're thinking that

756
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: it's gonna win. Bet twenty five fighters twenty five fights

757
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: excuse me the UFC with Chito from an Equatorian who

758
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: wasn't really well liked in the first of all of

759
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: my program in Jackson's Winkme in Main twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,

760
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: then no one had that. Jim Evert I was in

761
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: contact with every coach at that jam when when that

762
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: was going on, and they won't talk to me about Brandon,

763
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: about Yaid, about uh Teco, about some of the fighters

764
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: over there, right, none of them talk to me about Chito.

765
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: They really didn't think it was gonna make it. And

766
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 3: then he goes on the Ultimate Fighter, gets sick, gets

767
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: pulled out of the show. He's the first one to

768
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 3: ever walk to the octagon in Mexico City. Didn't twenty

769
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: fourteen against Marcobran. I think he got robbed that night,

770
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: but he didn't show anything special. If you had asked

771
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: me that night, I would have never, never, never, in

772
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: a million years guest that he's gonna have a championship fight,

773
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: that he was gonna fight twenty five times in the UFC.

774
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: So kudos to cheat about I don't I don't know,

775
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if he has changed anything. I guesst

776
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: Martinez that's gonna be one of his stuff is fights.

777
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: In a while, and Cheeto's a bit of a hard

778
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: hitter himself. But again Martinez does and get hit to

779
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: too often. That's a pretty good number that he's got,

780
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: and he'll well, Martinez bite down on the mouthpiece two

781
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, right, a little bit.

782
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: But you said in the Rough Fun fight, he does it,

783
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: and he goes in one to two, and he's so

784
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: quick that I think eventually he realizes, like, I don't

785
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: have to do this. I'm too quick for this. There's

786
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: an exit there, just gonna he's really gonna break in

787
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: the center line. Look, if you watch that Rough Fun fight,

788
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: he's really good at escaping a little breaking the center line.

789
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: Go with a power with a punch, go with a

790
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: power with the cake maybe, and then go to the exit,

791
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 3: reset and then go back again. He's just and that's

792
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 3: honestly to me, that's the taekwondo in the karate experience,

793
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: because you do an open stanceis breaking the center line,

794
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: going for three points to the head, and then he

795
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: does that a lot.

796
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 5: Uh.

797
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: We move down the card. The Golden Boy Daniel Zelhueber,

798
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: currently sitting at just twenty six years of age. I

799
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: think people forget that. However, he is riding a two

800
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: fight losing streak now once again the Aesteban Ribevics fight.

801
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: I can never know how to how do you pronounce

802
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: his name in Spanish? Is Stevan Ribovick's okay? Ribovik's okay?

803
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: That was a split decision. That was a phenomenal fight.

804
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: They total back and forth thing. It was amazing. But

805
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: then he guys kind of goes and lays an egg

806
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: against Michael Johnson back in July. I think of last year.

807
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: So here he is against King Green, who himself thirty

808
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: nine years of age, and he enters this contest. Yes,

809
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: he did get a winner for Landscaps Junior, son of

810
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: a former Landscaps in the who, by the way, is

811
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: married to a female memory fighter, Julia Budd And I

812
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: was at usc VET himself, But then he had the

813
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: two losses to Patty and Hoofi. Where are you on?

814
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: Like what King Green has left? We know he's got

815
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: the hands down kind of tricky style. Zel Huber is rangey,

816
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: certainly not afraid of contact. Is this a get right

817
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: fight for zel Huber? How do you how do you

818
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: frame what this contest is about it's.

819
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: I think the UFC have a lot of confidence in

820
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 3: the Niette. He had a previous opponent that I don't

821
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: think it was ever made public. He was gonna fight

822
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: carrols Jego Fijeda Relien. He had that fight for I

823
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: think a day or two, and then that got pulled

824
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: and then it was King Green for the Mexico City fight.

825
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 3: But the first fight, that means the UFC has a

826
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: lot of confidence. You're a lot of trust in you. Right.

827
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: He did tell me I've been covering for over ten

828
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: years too. I have a really good relationship with him.

829
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: The Michael Johnson fight did affect him in many levels.

830
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: It's the first time he got into a trash talk fight. Uh,

831
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: the first time he really felt like he needed to

832
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: promote the fighting that way, and it was just really

833
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: uncomfortable for him, not only to do that, but do

834
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: it in a different language. For him, it's just very

835
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 3: difficult for him, and he got pulled into that. During

836
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: the fight, he was very hesitant. He played into Michael

837
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: Johnson's range. It's to me, it's always incredible to see

838
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: someone like said Huber, right. I called it the Rick

839
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: Glenn school of fighting. When you're the tallest one, you're

840
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: the longest one, and yet every time you fight, you're

841
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: in the range of your opponent. I think that's one

842
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: of the flaws that he's seen in the Michael Johnson fire.

843
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: He shoot scamps, no longer extreme coutur, no longer with

844
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: there Nixic. He's gonna fight ready, He's gonna have Eddie

845
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: chap in his corner for this weekend. Feels like he

846
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: had a more personalized approach in training for this fight,

847
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: and he understands. He understands he not only needs to win,

848
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: he needs to talk him out. He understands he needs

849
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 3: a big statement this weekend.

850
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: All right, Well, the time we have remaining, give me

851
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: another fight on this card that you're is worth paying

852
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: attention to for our audiences. There's a few names that

853
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: our audience will recognize very quickly. I just want to

854
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: point out for Columbia, this is actually making news everywhere. Yeah,

855
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: Javier Reas, Javier Reas, Javier kings Is, He's making his

856
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: UFC debut. This was the guy had a phenomenal win

857
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: on the Contender series. He's taken on Douglas the Silva.

858
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Douglas Silva, Deon Rodge, who might have the

859
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: best physique in all of MMA. All right, that's on

860
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: the early prelimbs. What do you got, Rodrigo, what's standing

861
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: out to you?

862
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been a for a while. Good love for

863
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: the Columbia fight. Ev Gontachid is one of the most

864
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: underrated fighters in the card. Only losses to Joshua Van

865
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: and the guy who's fighting for the belt only losses

866
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: fighting Felippe Bone. I'm interested in em. Rodrigue is making

867
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: his UFC w former the old big fighter. He's gonna

868
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: have Rosendo Sanchez, DC's former wrestling coach and striking coach

869
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: in the corner for his fight against Kevin Borgas Kate Barnes,

870
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: who played spoiler in Mexico City last year, beating Lazy Rodriguez,

871
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 3: Santiago Luna fighting Akel Pachecosa Tego Luna, border Boy second

872
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 3: fighting the UFC. Training with Jess who has been training

873
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 3: with just Superillo. I share a little bit of trading

874
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: with Armasedruken before this fight, and everyone's favorite at least

875
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: in Argentina, Aileen Pettis versus macie chasn Macy did make

876
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: weight for this fight. But Aileen is probably the only

877
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: fighter trying to make one thirty five exciting for the women,

878
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: so hopefully she'll have a good fight. Look look at that,

879
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: Look at that? Look he did. She did it on

880
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 3: the press day, by the way, she did it on

881
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 3: beat it. They asked for individual pictures from the fighters.

882
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: He's like, well, I'm just gonna tour and then she

883
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: tourks from one side. He say, hey, can you depictures

884
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: on the other side of the stand? Okay, but I'm

885
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: gonna turk again. Torked again called out a man. The

886
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 3: nunas did everything so good on good on Alien Pettis

887
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: for mainging some excitement.

888
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: I want thirty bro. That is that that's probably on

889
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: her driver's license. Let's be honest about that, Long Island, Luke,

890
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: what are we missing? Give me some value on this card?

891
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: What are you watching?

892
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 5: Well?

893
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: I just want to point out about this card. There's

894
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 4: thirteen fights. Eleven of them contain a minus two hundred

895
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 4: favorite or higher. Jesus, so like, there's really no dogs

896
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 4: on this fight. I like whatsoever? Or on this card?

897
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: I should say whatsoever unless you're gonna take a flyer

898
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 4: on like the King Greens of the world and hope

899
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 4: that he can pull out the upset. But I'm looking

900
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: up and down this car. Macy Chason is probably we

901
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: were just talking about that fight, the best dog on

902
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: this card, and I don't really feel that confident in her,

903
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 4: Like I feel like Aileen Perez riding the momentum. Macy's

904
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 4: kind of hit or miss any other fights on this card.

905
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 4: I'm going up and down. Regina Tarin making her UFC debut.

906
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: People are hyped on her plus one sixty four right now.

907
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 4: That's the only other fight that contains a minus two

908
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 4: hundred or lower. And yeah, Penis, we you know, we

909
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 4: got to talk about Penis, guys, I mean, Damian Penis Is.

910
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about.

911
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 4: Continue to look, Penis is hard. He finishes everyone. You know,

912
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 4: he looks like he looks great out there, he looks huge.

913
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: But look how quick the Penis finish.

914
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 4: Uh, Phoenix Penis, you know everything. Pople are usually satisfied

915
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 4: when they watch Penis finish.

916
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: It's not about and it's not about it being quick

917
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: or slow.

918
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 4: It's just the status exactly. Like sometimes it's quick. Penis

919
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: does finish quick sometimes, but like you're I'm gonna turn

920
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: this into a solo show.

921
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: He's not embarrassed about no no to everyone.

922
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you finish him too quick, he might get embarrassed.

923
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: But as long as he's in charge.

924
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. And last, but not least, Chris Mautino is on

925
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: this card against Christian it'll be rock them, sock them.

926
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: Look, I had some two years. Hopefully he has a

927
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: give result.

928
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to topic number two here if

929
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: we can so. Again, we're not getting a lot of

930
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: super clear information. We're kind of going off of half reporting.

931
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: Give us a break in our best here, but let's

932
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: talk about it. According to the latest version of that

933
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: Iliot Taporio eversus Justin gai Chie we thought was going

934
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: to headline the UFC White House card, and now we're

935
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: getting to a place where the latest reporting suggests that

936
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: it may not be that case at all. And here

937
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: is the original gentleman who reported it, Alavado col Manero.

938
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: He says, quote regarding Ilias Taporiu's fight against Gaichi at

939
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: the White House, the fight has not been signed, and

940
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: despite being a possibility, the chances of it taking place

941
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: there have decreased. There are several geopolitical and economic arguments

942
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: against the fight being held at the White House, and

943
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: he later goes on to say that one of those

944
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: reasons might be what people had earlier speculated Rodriguo, namely that,

945
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, do they really want to put a guy

946
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: in justin gai Chie on a card where there's a

947
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: good chance where someone from who resides in Spain speaks

948
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: Spanish but obviously it's Georgian and has a whole you know,

949
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: unique lineage, but turn it on American. He goes and

950
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: just flatlines them, do they really want that? However, I

951
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: went and found it yesterday and I tweeted about this.

952
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: There's a quote from Dinna White asking, oh, is this

953
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: gonna be America versus the world? And his answer was no,

954
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: this is We're gonna make the best fights that we can.

955
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: All Right, based on this reporting, let's assume for the

956
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: second that that there is at least some truth to it.

957
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: How do you understand that and what kind of I

958
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: know that there's political backage of this event, but just

959
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: in terms of the fights themselves, for the start of

960
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: this question, what does this reporting tell you about what

961
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: kind of card we're going to get?

962
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't personally know at all,

963
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: but I do know he is the closest journalist to

964
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: in Puria. So when n Avado said something about in Lipa,

965
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: it tends to be have a lot of truth in it.

966
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: It is obviously Topurius is aside right, because it could

967
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: be that, hey, like we're not fighting the White House.

968
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: And then Topurius added it right like they don't want

969
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: to see in American and getting knocked out. Brother. But

970
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: we don't know. But if Eli is saying that he's

971
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: not gonna fight, he's probably not gonna fight. I had

972
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: seen the Dana White thing, Luke, and I did believe

973
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: that until uh, these past Winter Olympics, until the hockey

974
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: the men's hockey team thing with Donald Trump and Cash

975
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: Patau and seeing Donald Trump surrounded with the team and

976
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: putting on the metal, and it's like, uh, I think

977
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: he's gonna change his mind. I think he wants all

978
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: Americans and I think he wants every American on the

979
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: card winning, and I think he wants to shake hands

980
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: with everyone and just have us flags winning every single

981
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 3: fight on that card. It's just a hunch, but I

982
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 3: did think the way the environment shifted when the men's

983
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: hockey team won and then went to the State of

984
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: the Union address. It's like, I don't know about just

985
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: having the best.

986
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: Fights, man, I gotta tell you. I mean, I don't

987
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: know how I okay, I feel the same I feel.

988
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think. I'm just trying to think. Okay,

989
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: let's assume that what you're saying is totally true, right,

990
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: and with this reporting from Alvaro is largely correct, Like,

991
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: what is the real material impact of the actual card

992
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in that circumstance And the answer again, well, okay,

993
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: that's one side of it, for sure. I'm just talking

994
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: about quality of the card. Like, here's the point. I'm

995
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: trying to make one thing that we So for example,

996
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: one of the things that I've argued is, you know,

997
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: why did Joe Pifer get a fight against Izzy for

998
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: the main event of the UFC Seattle card. And I

999
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: don't know this, It's just a guess, but I do

1000
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: have it a very good authority that the UFC is

1001
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: very much interested in making sure they can boost the

1002
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: fortunes of American fighters, and the reason for that is

1003
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: because the American market has declined pretty pretty noticeably, right,

1004
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: there's hardly any I think in the top fifteen of

1005
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: the pound for pound baby Max, and I think it's

1006
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: just about it. And this is historically totally unusual, Like

1007
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: there's very hardly any American champs. Everyone knows the story

1008
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: at this point. And so if you're gonna try and

1009
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, make this thing a big market, big in

1010
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: the in the US market, you're gonna try and boost

1011
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: the fortunes of the American fighters that are there. Fair enough,

1012
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: I get it. I it's fine. You know, they're boosting

1013
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: the fortunes of the Mexican fighters this weekend, there's going

1014
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: to be room for the American ones too, and I

1015
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: think that that plays a role in some of the matchmaking. However,

1016
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: while I think that there is a reason as a

1017
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: promoter to potentially want to prime the pump, you know,

1018
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: before it gets to a later stage, at the same time,

1019
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: if you just have a card where the Americans all

1020
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: have a good chance of either vanquishing another American or

1021
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: in more likelihood somebody who's not what kind of quality

1022
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: fights are you going to get? And the answer is,

1023
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what that would be. I don't know

1024
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: what that would be like you you could do John

1025
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: Jones versus Poeton, But I don't know how good Jones

1026
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: is in twenty twenty six, and Dana doesn't even want

1027
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: to use him by all indications, Like there's hardly any

1028
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: guys in the top fifteen who are pound per pound.

1029
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Max is fighting not this weekend but the following weekend,

1030
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: making him largely ineligible for that anyway. So I'm just

1031
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: trying to point out, like, who are these top Americans

1032
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: that you can pair with other top fighters that the

1033
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: Americans are big enough that a casual audience would care

1034
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: about and would have a good enough chance to win

1035
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: that it would that you could like guarantee something like this,

1036
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: like you point out, for example, Rodriguo, the American men

1037
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: won in hockey.

1038
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 6: Okay, but they were real good, you know what I mean?

1039
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 6: They were They were very very good. I mean that

1040
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 6: had a one in forty something years. But yes, and

1041
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 6: they had exactly they had one since I was one

1042
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 6: years old. I mean, this is it's been so long.

1043
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 6: You don't have any of that dynamic with the American

1044
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 6: market now do that?

1045
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: Am I making sense a hundred percent? I think? And

1046
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: by the way, the top fifteen you have one American

1047
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: based fighter in Joshua Van form Me and mad right, okay,

1048
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: and then you have Max he does they't even walk

1049
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: out with the American flag, right, he walks out with

1050
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: the Hawaiian flag. Doesn't even walk out with the American flag.

1051
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: But anyway, I think what you're gonna have to do

1052
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: is you have to put one good main event, one

1053
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: good coming event. It doesn't matter where they're from. If

1054
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: you get Islam and you get someone else in those two,

1055
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: and then what you're gonna do is and you've called it.

1056
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: They're doing it in Mexico, right, they do it originally,

1057
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 3: they do.

1058
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: It all over the world.

1059
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: They go to another country and they trym boost the

1060
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: fortunes of those fighters. And I think I see that happening,

1061
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: A nice main event, a nice comin event. And then, however,

1062
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: many more fighters that can fit in. There may be

1063
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 3: six I guess they were talking about eight, right, maybe

1064
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: another six? Then those are fights for the Americans to win.

1065
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: They were saying six or seven. I mean, I don't

1066
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: know what they'll actually do.

1067
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: Oh, let's say like two title fights.

1068
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: And four more maybe who do you think headlines this?

1069
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna end up being Islam just on

1070
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: timing alone. Who else? If you need a championship, But

1071
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: if Kala's available, it's Kayla. But if you mean champions

1072
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 3: on availability, who's not fighting? Who's fighting? If you want

1073
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: to check that you're fighting there, it's either really or

1074
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: is I'm dining? Who else?

1075
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. It's like, it's kind of funny, right,

1076
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: I would be happy to see Islam on this card.

1077
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: He's arguably, if not outright the best fighter in the sport.

1078
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: Sure put him on there. I'm all in favor of that.

1079
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: I mean, two thumbs up for me. But it's kind

1080
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: of weird. I don't know if the fan base. The

1081
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: fan base would not reject Islam being on the card,

1082
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: but like the broader public, you've got a Russian Muslim

1083
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: fighter named Islam, and then are you also going to

1084
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: have Connor on that card too? And I realized that

1085
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: there is a shit ton of baggage on that side too.

1086
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm right, well, this is this is my point. It's like,

1087
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: I think the likelihood is they're gonna because Connor has

1088
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: kind of like been by the American MMA fan base,

1089
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: They're not going to care that he's Irish at some

1090
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: in any kind of honor pro Trump and the whole

1091
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: night Uh long is Lucas saying, what about a Max

1092
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: Justin rematch for BMF if Max beats Charles? But okay,

1093
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: this will be the first week of Mark, so you'd

1094
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: have the rest of March April, May, mid Jule. Yeah,

1095
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: you can do that.

1096
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: If you make it worth his while.

1097
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't have appetite for that, nor should

1098
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 4: Justin take that, considering he's next for the title. But

1099
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: that's an American versus American fight. You could headline the

1100
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 4: card with Long Island.

1101
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: Do you understand my point about this? Like, I don't

1102
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: understand who the If you're worried about these things and

1103
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: the way the reporting indicated, it makes you make a

1104
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: card that's like a fight night card. You can't even

1105
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: make a pay per view off of this thing.

1106
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, No, If that's what they're gonna do, then

1107
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 4: it's gonna be shit. I don't think they're gonna do that, though, Dude.

1108
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 4: I think they'll make winnable one like one sided American

1109
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: matchups if they can. You know what I mean, You

1110
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: don't have to do American versus American. You could do

1111
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 4: a shitty you know, foreigner versus an American who's really

1112
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: good or something. You know, yea favorite in your yeah.

1113
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: Or how do you do how do you do four

1114
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: or five? I mean again, I know that this is

1115
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: probably ridiculous, but how would you do four or five

1116
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: title fights? And then oh, we're also going to promote Americans?

1117
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: Are you gonna have interim titles? Like what are you

1118
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: gonna do? You know, that's something like if you want

1119
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: to make a card, any card, and you want to

1120
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: make it high quality in twenty twenty six, you're going

1121
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: to have a limited number of Americans on it right now. Now,

1122
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: maybe that changes in a year or two, but at

1123
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: the present moment, I just think that's the reality. You

1124
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: have to have an internationally or you know, a reasonably

1125
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: internationalized card. If what you're really focused in on our

1126
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: premium fights with premium skilled fighters, that's just where the

1127
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: sport is at this present moment. Now, let me ask

1128
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: you about this other part here, Rodrigo, which is that

1129
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: TKO execs confirmed This was reported I believe either by

1130
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: Sportico or Sports Business Journal, maybe even Pulsu. I think

1131
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: it was funny fuck okay, but it was confirmed on

1132
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: the earnings call with the TKO executives recently, namely that

1133
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: the event is in all likelihood, this White House event

1134
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: is going to cost sixty million dollars. Now, it was

1135
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: also reported that they're not going to make a profit,

1136
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: that you can see them say that they're There was

1137
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: additional reporting that through things like advertising and and other

1138
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: forms of revenue generation that they hope to recoup about

1139
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: half that cost thirty million. So let's say they're going

1140
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: to be about thirty million in the hole. This is

1141
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: important to understand because the entire sphere card was twenty million,

1142
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: and even those costs were offset with a pretty good

1143
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: gate as well as a reodd sponsorship. So remember it

1144
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: was called like you Like Riad Season Presents UFC. Notcha what?

1145
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: I can't even remember that the branding anymore. It was

1146
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: kind of all over the place. So I'm gonna ask

1147
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: this question, and it's a loaded question, Rodrigo, So take

1148
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: it how you want, Okay. The question is, in your opinion,

1149
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: do the costs make the event worth it?

1150
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 3: I think they've made the money back already. I really

1151
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 3: do remember this. Who introduced the Allisons to the Trumps.

1152
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 3: The Ellisons who are about to have the biggest media

1153
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 3: empire this size of Charles Kine. It was Dana White.

1154
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 3: It was the UFC right who's getting pushed the ALI

1155
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: Renewal Act. It's the UFC right who got us sort

1156
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 3: of a price, a gigantic TV deal by paramount, by

1157
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: the Ellisons. It's the UFC right. Whatever they can make

1158
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: back on advertising, just being on the good set of

1159
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: Trump and what has happened in cronyism, which is it

1160
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: is what it is in the last year and a half.

1161
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: I think whatever they spend is already worth it to

1162
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 3: them if the ALI Renual Act passes and they can

1163
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: build the empire they want in boxing, whatever amount of

1164
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: money they're pushing in through this thing is just absolutely

1165
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 3: worth it.

1166
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, this is my point to everyone. It's like

1167
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: what I met with people on Capitol Hill in between

1168
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: the two different hearings that they had related to through

1169
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: committee the passage of the ALI Renewal Act. So it's

1170
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: obviously not been even voted on on the floor, but

1171
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: it had to get voted on in committee to pass.

1172
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: So between those two events, I actually met with some

1173
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: people on Capitol Hill and what they told me was

1174
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: that there was, uh not. It wasn't like heavy pressure,

1175
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: but the White House had kind of communicated to the

1176
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: folks on the Education and Workforce Committee that this was

1177
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: a priority for them. Right, So I don't know what

1178
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson, whether he's going to pick it up and

1179
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: how soon, and blah blah blah. The point I'm trying

1180
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: to make is they're putting their thumb on the scale,

1181
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: which a lot of White Houses do for individual pieces

1182
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: of legislation, but I'm saying this is for the UFC's

1183
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: sake in this particular case, They're putting their thumb on

1184
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: the scale. And if this ends up passing, which will

1185
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: just you know, essentially make them becoming a monopoly almost

1186
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: almost a foregone conclusion, if not a formality, they'll make

1187
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: all of their money back within a year. Less than that,

1188
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: they'll make it back within a couple of months. Like them,

1189
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: burning thirty million is a pimple on the ass of

1190
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: what they are going to ultimately generate with this more

1191
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: favorable political and then media environment that they've now cultivated

1192
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: for themselves. So like, dude, they could burn I'm not

1193
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: even I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding. I'm

1194
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: not saying this would be a good idea. They could

1195
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: burn six hundred million and they'd be okay, you know

1196
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like they could go well beyond what

1197
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: they have and they would all make their money back

1198
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: multiple times over. Is it worth it if you're the

1199
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: UFC or you're TKO, how would it not be worth it? Right?

1200
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absolutely worth it. And also if you go

1201
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: to Turkey and you be like, hey, like, well we're

1202
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: spending in this UFC show and I understand this is

1203
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: the UFC and not TKA boxing, is gonna be worth

1204
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: worth it for TKO boxing in the future. You think

1205
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: you can spot a up on mails over here too?

1206
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: They have a lot. Look, they know what he's great

1207
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 3: at A thousand things, right, he's great a thousand things.

1208
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: He's really good at playing with other people's money. He's

1209
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: really good at using other people's wallets, and he knows

1210
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: how to use them effectively. And at one hundred percent,

1211
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 3: think sixty one hundred millions is just worthy to them

1212
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: to burn it.

1213
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: Long Island. Look, can you do me a favorite? Can

1214
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: you come on the screen and take my picture or

1215
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: take on my slot. I've got someone who won't leave

1216
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: my front door and they're banging on it, and I'm

1217
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: now starting to get concerned. Can you can you help

1218
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: me out here on just one second?

1219
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: That's like, I can let me put Rodrigo full.

1220
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: You can put me sold. Don't worry about it. What

1221
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 3: do you want to talk about now?

1222
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I'd be right back. Sorry, boys, no worries.

1223
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 4: About it, Rodrigo. I mean, who do you think is

1224
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 4: a bigger prospect? Let me ask you this, Santiago Luna

1225
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 4: or Imanol Rodriguez. Who has more upside in Europe?

1226
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: Well, now it's Santiago. We'll see in the future, right

1227
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 3: with him and all training with DC, training with Rosendo.

1228
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 3: I think now it's Santiago said there has been that

1229
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 3: for a while. He's one of the few Mexican fighters

1230
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: that has made it into the UFC with no Contender Series.

1231
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: I know the Ultimate Fighter. I was really upset that

1232
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: they made him. I all go to Contender Series after

1233
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: beating the Ultimate Fighter. He ended up Uh yeah, he

1234
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: ended up losing. As was like, I had a Korea

1235
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: in the UFC has not a long career. I think

1236
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: he had a great showing. I don't think it was

1237
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: fair for him to go back to and then this

1238
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: years they did it, Santego did it get hired from it?

1239
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 3: I just think today something that was just the has

1240
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 3: the higher showing. But we'll talk about him in a

1241
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: couple of fights. They're both really really good.

1242
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: Okay. And then last, but not least within Mexico, what

1243
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: would you say is the impression of the UFC White

1244
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: House Event?

1245
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna choose my words carefully right here, right,

1246
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: I think the opinion of Mexican's about the White House event.

1247
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: This play, the play the sound Long Island.

1248
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 5: It's not.

1249
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I think that's what it is.

1250
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, I think I think that's what it is.

1251
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 3: We just don't care about it. We'll watch it. Yeah, well,

1252
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: well I watch it. I've already paid for plus, man,

1253
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: I want to watch it. But I don't think any

1254
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 3: what expects much?

1255
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: Okay, very good? All right, let's before we get to

1256
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: topic number three, Let's talk about our big friends here.

1257
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1261
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1262
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,640
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1263
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Speaker 1: chocolate and peanut butter, but you know what, I want

1264
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Speaker 1: better sources for the kinds of things that I that

1265
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1266
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Speaker 4: Do it now?

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Speaker 1: All right? Question number three, let's get this going. This week,

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Speaker 1: it was revealed that Frank Warren of Queensberry Promotions intends

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Speaker 1: to sue Saudi Arabia SELA. That's the Turkey Ala Chik promotion.

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Speaker 1: It's the it's they are, they are the promoter. That's

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Speaker 1: the name of the promoter from Saudi Arabia, essentially the

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Speaker 1: company anyway, for beach of contract related to the partnership

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Speaker 1: with Zufa Boxing. I'm not here to weigh in on

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Speaker 1: the merits of the lawsuit, which we haven't even seen yet.

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Speaker 1: But Rodrigo, the question would be, here's a Here is

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Speaker 1: what Frank Warren is essentially suing for. It's a billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: He's claiming TKO and Sella breached exclusivity contracts and went

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Speaker 1: behind his back to form Zufa Boxing without him, as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, seeking a billion bucks, a figure he claims

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Speaker 1: the company would have made if the exclusivity contracts would

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Speaker 1: have been honored. There was this insane response from the

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Speaker 1: Ring magazine, which of course Turkey owns, where he tried

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Speaker 1: to launder his response to it through the magazine, just

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Speaker 1: absolutely destroying what is left of that place. But the

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Speaker 1: question is like, how do you read the situation? Is

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Speaker 1: it that this is the last gasp of a certain

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Speaker 1: kind of old school or do you think that there

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Speaker 1: might be merit to some of these claims that these

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Speaker 1: people are acting in some kind of underhanded way. How

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Speaker 1: do you assess what is actually happening between these players.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a lawyer or well in the UK, right,

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Speaker 3: so I'm not a solicitor. But if what he says

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Speaker 3: is true, I guess they're so married, right? What he's

1339
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Speaker 3: saying is I had a contract with a T k O.

1340
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Speaker 3: I had a contract with Salah, and those guys showed

1341
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Speaker 3: each other the contracts with me and on that basis

1342
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Speaker 3: formed super boxing. That is what he's arguing about. And

1343
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Speaker 3: if that actually happened, I mean, it's privileged information on

1344
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Speaker 3: both sides. There's gonna be a compensation. But I think

1345
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Speaker 3: what's important here, Look is you say the last gasp

1346
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Speaker 3: the type of gasp that he's doing. Right. He's not

1347
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: going at the promotion. He's not trying to stop them

1348
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Speaker 3: from giving out a belt. He's not trying to stop

1349
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Speaker 3: the Renewal Act in the US because obviously that doesn't

1350
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Speaker 3: matter to him. He's trying to get money to leave.

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Speaker 3: That's what it reads to me. He's like, we've kind

1352
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Speaker 3: of lost. I'm gonna get my payout. Maybe I'm gonna

1353
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Speaker 3: do my shows. I'll see about it, but this is

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Speaker 3: the way I can get my payout. I don't think

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Speaker 3: I can stop him. This is what it sells to me.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't. I mean, I definitely, Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Frank Warren is like notoriously litigious. You know, he'll sue

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Speaker 1: just about anybody, and so I mean, partly he's just

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Speaker 1: doing what he's always done. I certainly think that he's

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Speaker 1: looking for some kind of I mean, do you know

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Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, is he gonna go white

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Speaker 1: knuckle on this or will he settle? I suspect he'll settle.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that will look like. But it's

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Speaker 1: just really amazing to me that, you know, look like like,

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Speaker 1: let's let's show some of these media elements here, Long Island, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Here's Frank Warren holding hands with the Turk, the Turk man.

1367
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 1: Look at this holding hands these guys. Did you see

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Speaker 1: we have this here as well. It's a hilarious tweet.

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Speaker 1: Don't cry because it's over soon, because it happened holding

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Speaker 1: hands again. Incredible, incredible show. I gotta say, Frank Warren

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Speaker 1: does have nice suits though, I will say that. But

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Speaker 1: the thing it stands out to me, if I may,

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: is just how not just how flat footed these guys

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Speaker 1: have kind of all been caught. Yeah, but there was

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Speaker 1: a video that came out this week Rodrigo, and it

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Speaker 1: was it wasn't recent, but it wasn't like, you know,

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Speaker 1: not too distant either, And it was Eddie talking about

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Speaker 1: Turkey Turkey alas shake and he says, you know, I

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Speaker 1: would if he asked me to, I would clean his

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Speaker 1: excellency shoes. And even the interviewer goes, that's a bit

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Speaker 1: much Eddie, that's a bit much like it to me,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can re I mean, I

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Speaker 1: certainly agree with your assessment, but I also feel like,

1384
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Speaker 1: isn't it just the case that these guys helped Center

1385
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Speaker 1: Turkey as like a guy who's gonna control everything and

1386
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Speaker 1: fund everything, and this is the guy in charge, and

1387
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna do exactly what he says. And then when

1388
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,959
Speaker 1: it becomes clear that he doesn't really need them, because

1389
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Speaker 1: this eight hundred pound gorilla from a sister industry is

1390
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Speaker 1: just gonna use all of their might to then, you know,

1391
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Speaker 1: employ it under what would be largely a new regulatory scheme,

1392
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: doesn't need you bozos anymore, and he's happy to get

1393
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Speaker 1: rid of you. And I don't know they do. They

1394
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: seem surprised to you, do they seem? And it's got

1395
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Speaker 1: It's weird, right.

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Speaker 3: It is, And it's gonna burn that the least reversial

1397
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 3: one of them is the one who won because Data

1398
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 3: didn't do all that he did that handle once the

1399
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Speaker 3: handle was but he didn't do all this. He was

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Speaker 3: a shining Turkey shoes at all, at least not in public.

1401
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Speaker 3: So he has to burn a little bit that the

1402
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Speaker 3: one that was the least reversal to Turkey's who ended

1403
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 3: up winning in the end. And I just and the

1404
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Speaker 3: moment Turkey got himself in bed with the UFC and

1405
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 3: the TKO, those guys were still doubting, and I think, oh,

1406
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: on the UFC side, on the MMA side, we're like, guys,

1407
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Speaker 3: you have no idea what's coming. You have no idea

1408
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 3: the way you guys are gonna get fucked. And I

1409
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Speaker 3: saw with them, and I saw with my favorite neple baby,

1410
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Speaker 3: Mexico's favorite neple baby, Marisle Man.

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Speaker 1: Tell the folks whom Mariso Sulaimana. So we've talked about

1412
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Speaker 1: him on the show, but just remind them.

1413
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Speaker 3: Marisula Man is the head of the WBC, the SAM

1414
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Speaker 3: in Spanish, the War Boxing Council. He is the son

1415
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Speaker 3: of Don Jose sulai Man, one of the most influential.

1416
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 3: If boxing is what it is now, for good or

1417
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Speaker 3: for bad, Jose sulai Man and Don King shaped so

1418
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 3: much of it j. Sains Sulaiman is involved in the

1419
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Speaker 3: promotion of some of the biggest fights of the seventies, eighties,

1420
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Speaker 3: and the nineties, and he's the man who helped establish

1421
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Speaker 3: the paper view model, help establish the Vegas fight night

1422
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: for boxing. He is one of the more important men

1423
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 3: in the business of boxing, and his son is just

1424
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 3: fucking clueless. As the head of the WBC and as

1425
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 3: someone who didn't think dya want to post any threat

1426
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 3: until like three months ago, two months ago. He really

1427
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: is the guy who like literally stood at the exit

1428
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: of the tunnel, saw a bunch of lights head on him. Way,

1429
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 3: it's like that, it's just lights. Oh, it's just lights. Oh,

1430
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 3: it's just lights. And now that the truck's exiting the

1431
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: tunnel is like, ah, god, nothing. We're kind of fucked.

1432
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: And still just believes all these sanctioning bodies have always

1433
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: not always.

1434
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 5: But you want my belt forever. It means nothing without

1435
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 5: the DOUBLEBC belt. With my Emperor Green belt, it means nothing.

1436
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 5: But no one cares anymore, thank you very much. Moment

1437
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 5: it died down for him and he didn't realize it.

1438
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 3: Is when a Canelos junior he went in with this

1439
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 3: weird ass it was a beautiful belt, but he just

1440
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 3: invented a belt out of nowhere, maybe by Mexican artisans,

1441
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: so he could get on the licenses, licensing on the fight.

1442
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 3: And that's what people who are not close to boxing

1443
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 3: don't see, right, They're like, oh, it's a good gesture,

1444
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: it's a beautiful bell. He just wants to be in there. No,

1445
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 3: he wants to put that belt on someone so you

1446
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 3: can charge him a few million dollars at the end.

1447
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 3: And you see what happened with Baby's like, no, I

1448
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 3: don't I don't want to pay you. I'm not gonna

1449
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 3: pay you the sanction of feast. I'm done. I don't

1450
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 3: need the OBC for anything anything. Everyone just realized they

1451
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 3: don't really need the WBC for anything.

1452
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, and I didn't get I didn't get I

1453
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Speaker 1: didn't get to go in the ring or I didn't

1454
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Speaker 1: get a boxing And it's like, brother.

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Speaker 4: You.

1456
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Speaker 3: There's bigger things to worry about, buddy, it's gonna be

1457
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 3: so bad.

1458
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Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, in the interesting time, because

1459
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Speaker 1: we do have a bunch of things to get to,

1460
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: let's move on to topic number four. So let's stay

1461
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Speaker 1: with boxing here. If we can for just a second

1462
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 1: now as part of the Comane. So there's gonna be

1463
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Speaker 1: a main event April eleventh on Netflix between Tyson Fury

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Speaker 1: and arslin Beck Machmandoff. And the co main event we

1465
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Speaker 1: have found out is going to be Connor Ben, who

1466
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Speaker 1: is going to take on Regis freaking Progray. Here is

1467
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Speaker 1: the actual graphic that they made for It'll be at

1468
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: Tottenham hotspurre Stadium in London. It will be a big show.

1469
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Speaker 1: I certainly have no doubt about that. But my question

1470
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: is really quite simple about this Rodrigo. They paid him

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Speaker 1: Connor Ben, and I'm not mad at Connor Ben for

1472
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Speaker 1: I mean, fifteen million for one fight. Why would you

1473
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Speaker 1: turn that down? You'll never get that money again. However, However,

1474
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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say is again a loaded question. They

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Speaker 1: paid fifteen million to put Connor Ben in a co

1476
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 1: main event for one fight against Mega Washed. I love Regis,

1477
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: but Mega washed Regis Progra is that what really happened here?

1478
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Speaker 3: So I don't know how to say this. Let's go

1479
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 3: a little bit slowly. So you know, when you're upset

1480
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 3: at a guy and you see the guys going out

1481
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 3: with a girl who you think you can get and

1482
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 3: then you go out and get and then you figure

1483
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 3: out the rest. It kind of feels like that. It

1484
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 3: kind of feels like I want to screw Eddy. I'm

1485
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 3: gonna go get Connor, and then what do we do

1486
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 3: with them? You know what advertising space on someone else's show.

1487
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have Connor go in there as a comin,

1488
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 3: dressed head to toe on ZUFA Boxing, and then we'll

1489
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 3: figure out the rest. That's kind of like what it

1490
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 3: feels for me. It's fifty million dollars for a comin

1491
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 3: and an event that's not even your event. It's gonna

1492
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 3: be watched this Tye and Fury people are gonna watch.

1493
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 3: It's on Netflix. You already have the subscription, but it

1494
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: just feels it to me. It feels like that. And

1495
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: now the Ring X account not only the warrant tweets

1496
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: that were so insane. It's a Connor band fan account.

1497
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 3: If you look at it, one of those like weird

1498
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: fan accounts that you can find on X that sweet

1499
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 3: about like, oh look at the way he's smiling. Oh

1500
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 3: look at the way he shook someone's head. That's the

1501
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: Ring account right now with color.

1502
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: Ben, I can't tell. I mean the way they promoted

1503
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 1: it or the way they announced it was that Sela

1504
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: had paid for the purse, so that he came with

1505
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: fifteen million, which is to me not super distinct from

1506
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: what they did with John Jones. So John didn't take

1507
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: the fight. Obviously, John's a much better fighter in mma

1508
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: than Connor ben is in boxing. But the point I'm

1509
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: trying to make is they the USC didn't want to

1510
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: pay and they're under their normal scale for this kind

1511
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: of a fight, so they went to the Saudis and said, hey,

1512
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: can you hook us up with some cash to make

1513
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: this happen. John turned it down, but like you know,

1514
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: one fight, big purse from the Saudis, the mechanics of

1515
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: the thing seem the same. I will say it's kind

1516
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: of funny Dana White. Dana White's got a lot of

1517
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: skills in certain areas, but an eye for talent definitely

1518
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: is not one of them. Like the fact wassh Callum

1519
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: Walsh and like Connor, this was so funny to me,

1520
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: Connor Ben's not that good. I hope everyone understands that

1521
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: I've never s I've seen a fighter not this good,

1522
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: with the exception of Jake Paul now Connor Ben's a

1523
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: real boxer, but with the exception of Jake Paul, I

1524
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: don't know if I've seen a boxer who's this sub

1525
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: elite get this kind of a payday. Ever, I'm not

1526
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: sure I've ever seen something like this. This is actually

1527
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: like crazy unique. And I mentioned this on my live

1528
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: chat yesterday Rodrigo, which was I'm reading this book on basically, well,

1529
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: it's a lot of things, but the part of the

1530
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: book I'm on now is anti trust in the United

1531
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: States on the computer industry in the fifties and sixties

1532
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: and seventies. I know it is quite dull reading, but

1533
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: it really is quite important to understand because they articulate,

1534
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 1: like what things were the you know, in parts of

1535
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: the FTC or the Department of Justice. What were they

1536
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: looking for as like an example of an anti competitive practice,

1537
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: what would they what would that even be? And there

1538
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: were some guidelines around it, and one of the guidelines

1539
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: was if someone engages in a business practice where they

1540
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: can't possibly hope to make any real meaningful use of it,

1541
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: it is merely designed to take away something out of

1542
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: the market so that someone else can't have it, and

1543
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: like and then just you know, taking it and then

1544
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: using it at a loss continually. That's like inherently anti competitive.

1545
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: They're not even a monopoly yet in boxing, and they're

1546
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: already engaging behavior. Because your assessment to me is right on.

1547
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: You can't make money on one fight fifteen mil. I

1548
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: don't care what your viewership is on Netflix. You're never

1549
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna make your money back on something like that. It's

1550
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: just not dude, we're talking about four Connor Benz makes

1551
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: the White House card. That just it doesn't make any sense, right,

1552
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: But it does make sense to your point. If it's

1553
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: a revenge plot, if it's a signal to the rest

1554
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: of the industry. Yeah, okay, if you guys have them

1555
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: under contract, we're not going to touch them. But the

1556
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 1: instant that they become available, you can't stop us from

1557
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: getting whoever we want, even if we want a guy

1558
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: who's not even that good. Quite the message.

1559
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: If you ask me, it feels a little bit like

1560
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 3: European sucker right, It's like, what do you guys get

1561
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 3: that player so no one else gets it? And a

1562
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 3: lot of sucker themes say you'rerope do it. I'm gonna

1563
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 3: get that guy why so no one else gets him?

1564
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: Yes, can we use him.

1565
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1566
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: You know, you've get on the bags.

1567
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 3: We'll load it up somewhere. It'll be in Turkey next week.

1568
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 3: No one else in my leagu's gonna get him.

1569
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: It feels to me absolutely like you know this is

1570
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: This is why, going back to the previous question, it's like, dude,

1571
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: I think you guys are on borrow time. Man. Yeah,

1572
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't know when that's gonna go. You know, I

1573
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how that looks. But the institutional advantages

1574
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: cannot be competed with even by a guy like Eddie

1575
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: Hearn who does boxing and then darts.

1576
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 3: This is a guy behind you is the biggest wallet

1577
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 3: in this sport, with a very ruthless guy. It is

1578
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 3: what it is. And if you guys haven't figured out

1579
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 3: that you're screwed, I'm not gonna tell I'm not gonna

1580
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 3: say it again. You gotta find out.

1581
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck, you're gonna need it.

1582
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 3: Ten years they're gonna do it.

1583
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 4: Oh.

1584
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't even put this on the rundown,

1585
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: but very quickly your reaction action to Mayweather Pakio too.

1586
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 4: Eh.

1587
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: If I have nothing to do, I'll watch it. Maybe

1588
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 3: I'll watch it later. Like my reaction the first one,

1589
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 3: no no, I wasn't okay, no, no, I wasn't there.

1590
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 3: But my reaction for the frisone was like, Okay, sure,

1591
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 3: I'll watch it, but like it was the purpose of it.

1592
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 3: And now it's like, Okay, Floyd needs money money, probably

1593
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 3: needs money too.

1594
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, they both need money. Yeah, I was saying

1595
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: this very quickly. We'll move on to the last topic here,

1596
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 1: which is it's interesting right in twenty fifteen when they

1597
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: put that fight on in twenty fifteen, in twenty fifteen late,

1598
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: well not only was it late, it was one hundred

1599
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: dollars to that pay per view. If you recall this

1600
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: is in the United States. I'm not sure what the

1601
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: situation was in Mexico.

1602
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: But hey, delay in Mexico.

1603
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it was one hundred blocks back back

1604
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 1: eleven years ago, which is you know, crazy, What would

1605
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: it be now one twenty one to thirty something like

1606
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: that if you tried to charge that today. You're not

1607
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: making your money back on that fight. But interesting thing

1608
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: has happened along the way. They definitely still have some

1609
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: star power, not not like it was obviously, but they

1610
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 1: have something. But if you like if you think we

1611
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: all hated pay per view here in the United States

1612
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: because you know, who wants to keep paying constantly eighty bucks,

1613
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: eighty bucks, fifty bucks, eighty bucks whatever to go watch stuff.

1614
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: But it turns out that it might have been a

1615
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: little bit of quality control that now, because here's the thing.

1616
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: Would you watch Mayweather Pakia two for I'm gonna make

1617
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: it up one hundred and fifty bucks on payer review? No,

1618
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. No, would you watch it for free? Well, okay, sure,

1619
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It makes it possible to

1620
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 1: make fights that pay per view would never ever scale for,

1621
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: but for free, you could make a bullshit ass fight

1622
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: with two old guys that nobody asked for and it

1623
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: actually might do pretty well because you're not trying to

1624
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: do anything other than service those needs. You're not trying

1625
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,799
Speaker 1: to make good boxing. You're trying to make good streaming content.

1626
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 1: A totally different way to think about fight promotion.

1627
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 3: It is, and he said it, it's gonna streaming content

1628
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 3: and they'll do great numbers. I'm one hundred percent share.

1629
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: All right, Last, but not least, topic number five, let's

1630
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: talk about this. This is a smaller story and it

1631
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,480
Speaker 1: didn't get a ton of attention, nor should it necessarily

1632
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: get a ton of attention, but there was interesting debate

1633
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: after it was announced on social media. Here's how it goes.

1634
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: The PFL announced that Logan story is gonna face a

1635
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of Florum Zendally or Zendeli in

1636
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: the main event on May second. This will be in

1637
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: South Dakota. If you don't know, Logan Storly is from

1638
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: South Dakota, so it makes sense for the promotion. And

1639
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: you can see here this is what they have. Zin Deli,

1640
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: by the way, is ranked within the PFL system for

1641
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 1: whatever that is worth, and as they indicate here was

1642
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: the welterweight champion out of PFL Europe in twenty twenty four.

1643
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: So you can see why this fight might get made.

1644
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: And you can see why if you're gonna go to

1645
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 1: South Dakota why you would want to. Now you might ask, well,

1646
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: why are they going to go to South Dakota. Maybe

1647
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: they're getting a site fee. I'm not entirely sure. The

1648
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is there is now an

1649
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: enormous amount I saw of online consternation for the PFL

1650
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: choosing to do this and in fact, what I've seen,

1651
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: Rodrigo are people who are making the claim that the

1652
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: matchmaker model that they've adopted is maybe not the right one.

1653
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: To this point, let's put up the tweet from Aaron

1654
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: bron Setter, friend of the show. We love him very much.

1655
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 1: This is his opinion quote. At least with the tournament

1656
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: PFL had an infrastructure for building new talent like that Gene.

1657
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: No disrespect to him, but nobody is setting in an

1658
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: alarm to tune into Logan Storly main events. PFL needs

1659
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: its own identity because we have seen how this model

1660
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: has fared in the past. My question to you, Rodrigo,

1661
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: is does this move by PFL show that maybe they

1662
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: should have stuck with the tournament system.

1663
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, back in South Dakota, I

1664
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 3: don't know if they should be in the same sentence

1665
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 3: because you see, why is the Mexican saying that we're

1666
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: not getting along right now the US in Mexico right

1667
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 3: But I've been privileged through no I mean to about

1668
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 3: thirty something states in the US. I've been published to

1669
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 3: know a lot of the US, and uh, I've never

1670
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 3: been to South Dakota. I don't think I want to

1671
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 3: go to South Dakota. But anyway, then the other reaction was, well,

1672
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 3: at least it's not Thackerville, Oklahoma for those old belterheads

1673
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 3: out there. Yeah, but my point is, look, okay, you're

1674
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 3: not gonna a tournament. You should have had a better

1675
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: option because this is a site fee or a ticket sale. Evan,

1676
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 3: you need the money. You either needed a side feed

1677
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: or you need a bunch of tickets. You're gonna sell

1678
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: a bunch of tickets taking him home, you are. But

1679
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 3: if this was your option, I think you should have

1680
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 3: stuck with a tournament. I understand the thing about like

1681
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,959
Speaker 3: not being down with a tournament and all the limiteds

1682
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: that it has, but even you talked about it several times,

1683
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 3: if you're gonna stop doing the tournament, it freeze you

1684
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 3: up to do great fights, freeze you up to go

1685
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 3: to different places. I don't think this is why you

1686
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 3: had in mind by getting really a tournament, right.

1687
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 1: I would not say this was my preferred choice.

1688
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1689
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's the issue, And I honestly feel for

1690
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 3: the right holders because I know, for example, in the

1691
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: Mexicos and Central America, a lot of money was paid

1692
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 3: by the Fox corporation to get the rights for the PFL.

1693
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:17,879
Speaker 3: And I don't think this is the show that we're expecting.

1694
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna say this. I think people are reading

1695
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: the situation a little too narrowly, and I don't have

1696
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: great news for everyone, But I just have the news

1697
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: that I think is real at this moment. Here is

1698
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 1: the truth. The reason why the tournament system and format

1699
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: for PFL was a differentiator is because, hello, it is

1700
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: a differentiator. They did have something of a matchmaker certainly

1701
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: before they changed. But the reality was that was how

1702
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: you kind of understood then the tournament system blah blah blah.

1703
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: But of course what happened along the way it created

1704
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: weird matchups. Some of the rules were hard to follow,

1705
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: and they changed some of that too. But and they yes,

1706
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: some people have been created out of it, like there

1707
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: have been some big names that Gene and some other ones,

1708
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Brendan locked in you could, you know, we all know

1709
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: the stories of people who've done really well, Shoeface and

1710
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: some other ones. But the truth is it left them

1711
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: in the whole. Financially, to the tune of hundreds of

1712
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. PFL never made a dime of profit.

1713
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: Under that model, it didn't work at all. They could

1714
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: not keep doing that. They could not. But now you

1715
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: could say, well, should they have kept a little bit

1716
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: of a tournament system, And in fact, I think that

1717
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: they should have, and maybe they'll know they can always

1718
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: pivot back to that in some kind of way, and

1719
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: I do think that would be good for them. I think,

1720
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, the kind of thing that Bell Tour was doing,

1721
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: which was mostly matchmaker and then a little bit of

1722
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: the tournament, is a better model. But the reality is

1723
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: that model failed to guys. Here's the reality. Whether they

1724
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: did whether they did full tournament, whether they did partly matchmaker,

1725
01:24:55,160 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 1: partly tournament, or whether they do only matchmaker. News that

1726
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: everyone needs to wrap their head around. In my opinion

1727
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: is it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You can't make

1728
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: this profitable. It cannot be done, not in the scale

1729
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: that they're at now if they change to what they

1730
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: are to be like more of like a European based

1731
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: thing or more of a much more of you know,

1732
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: and I realized that Don Davis is gone. They're not

1733
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: calling themselves a duopoly anymore, but you know, trying not

1734
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: to even be a national scaled kind of event, or

1735
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: at least in the United States, then I think that

1736
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: there's a different kind of conversation to be had. But

1737
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: based on the ambitions, there is no way to make

1738
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: this work. And they can try it tournament, they can

1739
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: try it matchmaker, they can try any kind of hybrid model.

1740
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't matter. That's not me saying Rodrigo

1741
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: that I think, oh yeah, go put a main event

1742
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: on in South Dakota with logan story, because you're right,

1743
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: it's a ticket play or a site feed play. And

1744
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 1: then that's not like, look, that's not a play that's

1745
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: designed to do big numbers on a national television audience,

1746
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 1: like not not even clothes. But my response to be

1747
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: that it is going to be. It doesn't matter, It

1748
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The way the industry works is that there

1749
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: is no way to possibly compete with a UFC or

1750
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 1: to be able to pardon me, make this kind of

1751
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: thing financially viable because there's no way for your roster

1752
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: to gain legitimacy absent their co promotion, which is never

1753
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It cannot be done. This is the painful,

1754
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: lesson hundreds of millions of dollars later. You can't make

1755
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: this work. And I hate to say that because I

1756
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: know a lot of people who work there. And by

1757
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 1: the way, I am excited for the year MMA that

1758
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: they've got in front of us. I think they've got

1759
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: some good MMA ready for us. Maybe not this main

1760
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: event in particular Rodrigo, but like you know, there's some

1761
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: other ones on this car, on this calendar that I'm

1762
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: pretty excited about. That's a very true thing. I just

1763
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: don't know what people want. They tried the tournament system.

1764
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 1: It left them massively in debt. You can't keep doing that.

1765
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: That's a bridge to nothing. Oh well, this matchmaker model

1766
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: doesn't work.

1767
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 4: What does that tell me you?

1768
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: That's kind of my response. Oh, we can't hear you.

1769
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: Is your mic commuted?

1770
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 3: There you go? Yeah, my dog was here. I'm sorry,

1771
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: I was the only one. My dog gotta have muta it.

1772
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 3: I love me, I love the fighters, I love me

1773
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 3: so pinelo. I get that part if they tell me.

1774
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 3: Of course, they would never say this, poet. You Hey, like,

1775
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 3: we're just biding our time. We're doing this so we

1776
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 3: can get some money up from we're buying at time.

1777
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 3: We have other plans. Fine, I'll get it, but I

1778
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 3: really have nothing to add it for what you said. Look,

1779
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 3: if you tell me your promote your promotion is making money,

1780
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 3: you're either a a very small local show that can

1781
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:42,560
Speaker 3: be that can have healthy finances, or you're lying. I

1782
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 3: think it's done, and it's very sad, but I think

1783
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: it's done.

1784
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: I just don't think there's any way to make it work. No,

1785
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: So I hope that the events are good use as

1786
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: long as you can. And I get why they went

1787
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: with the tournament Moalel to begin with. Yes, it's a

1788
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: product differentiation and because of that, it's a way to

1789
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: raise revenue, Like it's a way to get investment, you

1790
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But like if the investors are

1791
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: looking at it and being like, okay, well what have

1792
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: you done with this, and there's no way to make

1793
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 1: that work, people just kind of go wrap their head around.

1794
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 1: Like Scott Cocher to me, lost his fastball by the

1795
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: time he was promoting Bellatour, but he still had a

1796
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: pretty clear idea of like what would be a better model,

1797
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 1: and it didn't matter and he.

1798
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: At least was abled enough through orchestrated sale. Right, Yeah, Okay,

1799
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 3: Like I think we're done here. I think we need

1800
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 3: to sell and convinced everyone and sold.

1801
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: It, so, you know, I just it's not pleasant news.

1802
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: It's not a pleasant reality. But just where you're at,

1803
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: there is no format that they could go to that

1804
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: would change their fortunes. It doesn't exist. All right, That

1805
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: is it for our top five topics. Now it's time

1806
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: to bring in Long Island Luke back into the show.

1807
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,959
Speaker 1: Time for a little rate that card right, rank, oh rank.

1808
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 4: Sorry whatever, it's right. It's everyone's favorite show. It is

1809
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 4: rank that call that god, it sucks. It sucks kind

1810
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 4: of applies there. But anyways, LT, you're up first. Was

1811
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 4: most likely to challenge for a UFC belt one day,

1812
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 4: I lean Perez, David Martinez or Damien Penis.

1813
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: Dude, you love Penus.

1814
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 4: I had to put Penis in here, you know.

1815
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: Most likely to challenge for a UFC belt one day,

1816
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: dude easily, David Martinez.

1817
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I lean Perez. On a five fight win streak.

1818
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 4: Though women's band weight very shallow division, Hala's out interim title.

1819
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 4: You don't think she's not.

1820
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 3: Here's my question.

1821
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on Martinas one, Petes two, Penis number three.

1822
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 3: So what's gonna happen after killing Amanda fight, is the

1823
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 3: division going to be over.

1824
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be over, but it's gonna be a

1825
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: vacant title.

1826
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say I lean Bettis because she would

1827
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 3: get the vacant that ole shot first.

1828
01:29:58,720 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

1829
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 3: I I I understand your point, look and I agree

1830
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 3: with your point, but I think it's a limp petes.

1831
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 3: I think one thirty five is much more difficult in

1832
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 3: men's division. I think traffic can get a little bit tough,

1833
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 3: so I will go a limp pees David Martinez Demian Pinis, all.

1834
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,759
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm just going on fighter quality.

1835
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 4: But these are fair points, all right, all right, Well Rodrigo,

1836
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 4: this one's for you. The undefeated fighter with the biggest

1837
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 4: chance of losing on Saturday, Santiago Luna, Regina Tarin or

1838
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 4: Iminol Rodriguez hands down.

1839
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 3: Rahina Tarin short notice, fired a lot of emotion. She's

1840
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 3: never fighted, She's never fought this quality of a fighter.

1841
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 3: She's never fought in a place that big. Had a

1842
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 3: hard weight. From what I understand, she didn't make weight,

1843
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 3: but she was still on the PI like today before

1844
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 3: I don't know half an hour before weighing in, still

1845
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 3: shedding pounds.

1846
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 4: Okay, and then who would be second for you? I'm

1847
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 4: assuming Emino.

1848
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 3: I think Rahina, Tarin, Santegoego just takes a lot of damage.

1849
01:30:58,400 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 3: It just takes a lot of damage.

1850
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 4: LT, you changed in that order at all.

1851
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: I definitely would go with Tarin as the first. Yeah, yeah,

1852
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: I'll go. Yeah, I'll keep the same one. I'll keep

1853
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: the same one for the same reasons.

1854
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm swapping him andol In Santiago. I

1855
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 4: feel like Kevin that was debating. Yeah, all right, LT,

1856
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 4: over to you the naming duo with the best chance

1857
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 4: of winning both fights. So the Silvas, which is Eric Silva,

1858
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 4: Douglas Silva, Diondroje, the Problemas which is Christian Quinonez and

1859
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 4: Ryan Gandra, or the Kings, which is also Eric Silva

1860
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 4: and Bobby Green.

1861
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: Also uh Reyes is his last name, Reyes. In Spanish,

1862
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 1: Kings just means kings. There's actually there's actually three Kings.

1863
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 4: Let's not include Eric Silva in that then, since he's

1864
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 4: already in the Silvas, So put Javier Ray as King

1865
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 4: Green as the Kings.

1866
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: Best chance of winning. Who are the Silvers again.

1867
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,640
Speaker 4: Doug, Eric Androge and Eric Silva. Eric Silva is a

1868
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 4: huge dog silver Deonroge is like and the problems.

1869
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: Who are the problems?

1870
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 4: Quinones and Gandra, who are both big favorites.

1871
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll go the problems, then i'll go Kings,

1872
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: then i'll go Silva's.

1873
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 4: That's probably right, Rodrigo, You changing that at all, are you? No?

1874
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 3: That's kind of Es and Gandra are number one by far.

1875
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 3: I think they're both gonna win. I think the order

1876
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 3: stays all right.

1877
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 4: Well, Rodrigo, who's most likely to win by Finnish Gandra,

1878
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 4: quinonez or Eminal Rodriguez.

1879
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,600
Speaker 3: Oh, Gandra, Gandra number one? My boy cheachinga is not

1880
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,719
Speaker 3: that good and he takes a lot of damage. Shout

1881
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 3: out to Bolivia, hope you're making it through a World Cup.

1882
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 3: See you here in a few weeks in Mexico. But uh,

1883
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,759
Speaker 3: my boy cheacher just takes too much damage to Samdina.

1884
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get knocked out very quickly. So

1885
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,560
Speaker 3: I would say Gandra first, Denny Manol then Christan is

1886
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 3: just Christian because he has a fun in two years.

1887
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 4: Okay, See, we're talking about guys taking damage. I mean,

1888
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 4: Christian's fighting Chris Mautino. I'm like, that's a guy who's

1889
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 4: gonna having funny.

1890
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 3: We haven't funny two years and we've seen teaching may Die.

1891
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,480
Speaker 1: I just get lit up like this true.

1892
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 3: Christian.

1893
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 4: All right, lt you're changing that at all?

1894
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I'll go Did you say, Roger? Do you

1895
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: say Eminol will second?

1896
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 3: Yes?

1897
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: Okay, no that I wouldn't change no.

1898
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 4: All right, I think I'm going the order. It's in one, two, three, Andre, Okay,

1899
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 4: all right, Elsie. Most entertaining fighter on the card, David Martinez,

1900
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 4: Brandon Moreno or Edgar chiri.

1901
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 1: Now that's tough because this is subjective, man, Brandon, Reno's

1902
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: fucking hard to top. I'll go Moreno one, I Rodrigo.

1903
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 1: I know that y'all love Chidas, but I love I

1904
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: love Martine too much, so I'm gonna go Martinez to Chiras. Three.

1905
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Don't kill me.

1906
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. I don't kill you. Here's the thing.

1907
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 3: And it's not an in diamond on anyone. This is

1908
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 3: most intiti fighter on the car right for this card,

1909
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 3: for this fight, for this weekend. Correct Brandon loves the

1910
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 3: five rounds. Brandon takes it easy the first round and

1911
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 3: a half. About that, I think Eva has a lot

1912
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 3: to prove. I think he's gonna be just wild immediately,

1913
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 3: so I would play Saft number one. I think DEVI

1914
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 3: knows what it means to finish Chito, so play plays

1915
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 3: a bit two and I will place Brandon three, just

1916
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 3: because I think on Saturday.

1917
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 4: I might go Edgar Moreno, Martinez and no disrespect to

1918
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 4: any of them, because they're all.

1919
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa.

1920
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: Won't you both agree that Moreno's fights with Figaredo are

1921
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: better than anything Martinez or Chyros has ever had.

1922
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 3: Yes, but we're talking about this Saturday against Lone Cavanough yea.

1923
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 3: And we've also have a flat first round.

1924
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 4: We've also seen like split decisions. And you know, I'm

1925
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 4: not saying that I haven't been entertaining.

1926
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 3: But you know it's in most entertaining career wise on

1927
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 3: this week in scard I think.

1928
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 4: That's all right, all right, Rodrigo, who's most likely to

1929
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 4: avoid a third straight loss. Macy Chasson, Angel Pacheco or

1930
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:23,799
Speaker 4: Daniel zell.

1931
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 3: Huber out plays Dennis and Hoover won. I think he's

1932
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 3: the better fit against King Green. I think he can

1933
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 3: get done, and then oh, can Macy actually make her?

1934
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna say, I can, but check

1935
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 3: a second and Maysy just on third, because every time

1936
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 3: I pick against Eileen, every time I say something negative

1937
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 3: against Aileen, I'm dead wrong about it. It's happened to

1938
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 3: me more than once. And I'm sure now that I

1939
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,560
Speaker 3: said it, it's gonna be the other way around. But

1940
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go sell Hubert and I'm gonna go, h look,

1941
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 3: there we go, there we go, there we go. Yeah,

1942
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 3: I think that's my order. I'm not gonna share it today, LT.

1943
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 4: What's your order?

1944
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to go in reverse here. So I'm gonna

1945
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: go zel Houber one, Pacheco two, and then Macy is wait,

1946
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 1: most likely do avoid a third?

1947
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 4: No?

1948
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Sorry, so yes, that's right, yes, zel Hooper, Pacheco and

1949
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 1: then Macy last.

1950
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 4: All right, fair enough, LT. Fighter Who's stock will drop

1951
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 4: the most with a loss on Saturday? Daniel Zelhuber, I

1952
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 4: mean Chris or Brandon Moreno.

1953
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: Moreno's easy number one. That would be a terrible loss.

1954
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 4: Not zell Huber coming off. He would be back to

1955
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 4: back losses to guys thirty nine plus years old and

1956
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 4: he's still only twenty six. People thought of him as

1957
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:41,520
Speaker 4: maybe a future.

1958
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: I'd put him second for that reason. I do think

1959
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 1: it would be not great to be in that position.

1960
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: But moreno dude taking on a guy who Yes, it's

1961
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: short noticed and we know sometimes I can like make

1962
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: fights a little funky at times. But as you and

1963
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: Kate we talked about before he's gassed, before his hit

1964
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 1: a Bolero thought a guy this quality, certainly I would

1965
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: just be that would be a really bad fucking loss.

1966
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: So no moreno Zell Huber all right for me?

1967
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 3: Same thing and number one because if he loses, then

1968
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 3: mine maybe we see no more championship fights for him. True,

1969
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 3: that's a big Stock loss, so Humber, there's still some

1970
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 3: room to improve, and there was some hype coming in.

1971
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 3: And I love Chrit's thinking. Honest, I love him. I've

1972
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 3: known him since he was a kid.

1973
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 4: But uh, what Stock, Yeah, great point, but it's Chris Mautino,

1974
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 4: which I feel like you.

1975
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 3: What stuck?

1976
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah what Stock? I mean, you lose your your spot

1977
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 4: on the roster. I would take down probably get probably

1978
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 4: get all right, Uh Rodrigo underdog with the best chance

1979
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 4: of winning, Loney Cavanaugh or Lonnie Cavanaugh. I think it

1980
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 4: is Macy Chasson or Marlon Chito Vera.

1981
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 3: I'll go one because we've never seen against this Calval

1982
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 3: opponent and it's a it's just a lot of pressure.

1983
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 3: This week has been a lot of pressure on the meat.

1984
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 3: So I would go Chea Tomato number one. Lenny Kevina too,

1985
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 3: just because he packs a punch, and then Macy's just

1986
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 3: so last.

1987
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Eltie, I definitely go Marlon one. I can't decide.

1988
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,799
Speaker 4: Surprise both of you picked Marlon one. He's the biggest

1989
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 4: dog of the three.

1990
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I'm not going strictly by odds. You know,

1991
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 1: I don't let the math.

1992
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 4: No, I appreciate that.

1993
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 1: I'm just not a slave to the matrix.

1994
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 4: I'm like the problems. They're both favorites. Yeah, yeah, they're

1995
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 4: gonna win.

1996
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm also hypocrite. I'll go Marlon, and then I might

1997
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: go Macy's second, and then Lonnie third, even though I

1998
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 1: recognize that, you know, some live dog potential all the

1999
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: way around.

2000
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 4: All Right, I'm going Macy first. Wow, I'm going Marlin second,

2001
01:38:56,280 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 4: Lonnie third. All of them have a chance. Eltie, who

2002
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 4: will have more UFC fights after this card, Eric Silva,

2003
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 4: Douglas Silvadeonrodge, or King Green. I believe they are all

2004
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,599
Speaker 4: thirty eight plus years old.

2005
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 1: King Green because he has promotional viability.

2006
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if he loses this, it'll be like, you know,

2007
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 4: top of my head, five of his last seven or something.

2008
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, but it's like, what is the

2009
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,640
Speaker 1: appeal to the UFC for the other guys? I mean,

2010
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: maybe Douglas Silveradondrodge because he's still kind of like a

2011
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 1: reliable talent indicator in the division. So I put him last,

2012
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: maybe in terms of like, oh sorry, I put him

2013
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you know what, maybe I'll put him first

2014
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 1: and then I put King second, I'll put Eric third,

2015
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: something like that.

2016
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 4: All right. See, I could see them holding on to

2017
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 4: Eric Silva just because he's Colombian. I believe in the

2018
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 4: Venezuelan or Venezuela al right. Either way, there's not that

2019
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 4: many Venezuelan fighters in the UFC. I feel like, do

2020
01:39:58,560 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 4: they need a bunch?

2021
01:39:59,240 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2022
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, but I feel like they hold on to

2023
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, Rodrigo, whatever are you going for this?

2024
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 3: Silva barely fights and that's another issue. He'd be three

2025
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 3: in a row. I think he gets cut. If you lose,

2026
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 3: I think he gets cut. So it will go King

2027
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 3: Green Number one promotional viability. He fights, people love him still,

2028
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 3: whatever happens this weekend, he'll get up. No, at least

2029
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 3: two more fights. Don't let Silver second and third, because

2030
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,719
Speaker 3: I think Edic's fortunately losing and I think he's getting

2031
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 3: cut this weekend.

2032
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:30,720
Speaker 4: All right, Silva's definitely third for me as well, but

2033
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 4: I might go Silver Deandrodge before King. I feel like

2034
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 4: if King Green gets like, I don't think zel Huber

2035
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 4: is gonna finish him, but if zel Hubert finishes him,

2036
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 4: I could see them being like, all right, King Green,

2037
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 4: go to bare Knuckle or something. All right, Rodrigo. Last

2038
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:48,679
Speaker 4: one for you, most intimidating nickname, border Boy, the Assassin Baby,

2039
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 4: or kill Bill.

2040
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 3: So you guys know that the Assassin Baby came because

2041
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 3: the people, the person who gave him his nickname didn't

2042
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 3: know how to say the baby faced assassin.

2043
01:40:57,960 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 4: Oh that's hilarious. I didn't know that.

2044
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 3: That's where that shrew, that's where it comes from. They

2045
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 3: wanted to make him the baby face Assassin, and then

2046
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 3: it became the Assassin Baby. And for a while, because

2047
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 3: they didn't know good English, they would say their baby

2048
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 3: assassin because it was a baby assino and they would

2049
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 3: say the baby assassin. It was like, guys, that that

2050
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 3: does not mean what you guys wanted to meet.

2051
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 4: That sounds like Dana White beating up babies.

2052
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 3: He was supposed to be the baby faced assassin. Uh.

2053
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 3: For me, it's the assassin baby all day. Then kill

2054
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 3: Bill and then not border boy second and Kilber third.

2055
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, border boys pretty bad ass. Luke, what are you

2056
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 4: going with?

2057
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 1: I want to tell a funny story about my wife

2058
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 1: one time. So one thing I've learned Rodrigu and I'm

2059
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: sure you can speak to this. The difficulty and coming

2060
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 1: from Spanish and English is like there's a challenge for

2061
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: some when you add a second part to the verbs.

2062
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 1: So for example, there's one thing to turn and then

2063
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 1: another one to turn on the light, you know what

2064
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean. One time, my wife got into a verbal

2065
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: spat with someone and they told her to fuck off,

2066
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,839
Speaker 1: and then her response was no, you fuck.

2067
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 3: I do a lady.

2068
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 1: I had to sit in the car and be like, okay,

2069
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 1: so you I don't think you won that exchange. I

2070
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: just want to be clear about that um, okay, most

2071
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 1: intimidating nickname. I gotta tell you, I feel like border

2072
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 1: boy is a fucking sleeper. That is, that's a sick

2073
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: fucking name. Yeah, I'm gonna go in order here because

2074
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't like I like cultural references, but not ones

2075
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: that will just hammer you over the head, you know,

2076
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it doesn't work. I mean I

2077
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: like it when they're a little quirky. So border boy

2078
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 1: for me, Like like, for example, my favorite nickname maybe

2079
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 1: of all time is the muscle Shark, for which the

2080
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: Japanese gave to Sean Shirk. So I'm gonna go border boy,

2081
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: assassin baby, kill Bill in that order.

2082
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 4: All right. I thought you were more of a beast

2083
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 4: in twenty five eight guy as your favorite. Yeah, well,

2084
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 4: shout out Corey Anderson. But I would agree if you

2085
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 4: look like if I have to fight one of these

2086
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 4: guys and they're like, you're fighting this Mexican guy's nickname

2087
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 4: is border boy, I'm like, oh dude, that guy's gonna

2088
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 4: fuck you know, like the assassin baby, I'm like, what

2089
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 4: is am I fighting a child? And then kill Bill

2090
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 4: is like it just means nothing to me. It's the

2091
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 4: name of a movie.

2092
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 3: I guess that's the culture difference, because for me, it's like,

2093
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna fight border boy. Oh so he lives in

2094
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 3: a border? Sure? Yeah, Oh he's from Tijuana. Wow.

2095
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 1: No, it sounds on this side of the border.

2096
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean sure, see from Rhinos or something from Fine.

2097
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 4: I guess, baby, I don't know. All I know is

2098
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 4: that he's from the border.

2099
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 5: Man.

2100
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:39,799
Speaker 3: Sure, what happens?

2101
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 4: All right, guys, Well, the next game we are gonna

2102
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 4: play is everybody's other favorite game. This is Eskimo Brothers.

2103
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 4: You all right, guy, So I'm gonna show you three

2104
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 4: fighters and you have to be the first to guess

2105
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 4: who their mutual opponent is. So we're going head to

2106
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 4: head here, burst up. We got flyweight Joseph Benavitez, Davison

2107
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,560
Speaker 4: Figuredo and Alice Chandre Pantosia.

2108
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: It's not moreno, is it?

2109
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

2110
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 1: It's the Joe b part. Here is the one that's

2111
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: thrown me off? Me too for Mega.

2112
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 4: Nope, he is currently ranked currently ranked. Everyone on the

2113
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:34,480
Speaker 4: list is currently.

2114
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Speaker 3: Currently ragged fly weight. I'm I'm stumped. Give us a hint,

2115
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be so easy.

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01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 4: He's uh. He often pulls out of fights. In fact,

2117
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 4: I had a prop quiz no, no, never bevitez. Oh h,

2118
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 4: I had a question about him. Recently he pulled out

2119
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 4: of fourteen UFC bouts officially in his like six year,

2120
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 4: ten years.

2121
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 1: It's not how BOSSI is it?

2122
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 4: No former title challenger's headlined some events, been on a

2123
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 4: rough skid, but is coming off.

2124
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 1: Of a win. Nope, just to fucking tell us it

2125
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: is Alex Perez. Oh shit, yeah, so all right, I

2126
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 1: would have never got that.

2127
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 4: No one gets any points on that one, but all right.

2128
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 4: Next up we got featherweight Gilbert Melendez. I'm in the

2129
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 4: wrong order, uh, Dan Hooker, Max Holloway and Gilbert Melendez.

2130
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 3: And this is how we'll never get invited in your show.

2131
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rodrigo, you're welcome to come on whatever.

2132
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to amass myself.

2133
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 1: I've done it three times. It's not fun.

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01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 3: It's so fun.

2135
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, you got to give us a hint.

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01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 4: Brother, this is certainly ranked coming off of a loss

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01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 4: in January.

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01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 1: Wait at fifty five or forty five?

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01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 4: Well that's for you to figure out, brother, fifty five,

2140
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 4: because no, actually I already told you it was featherweight.

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01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:03,679
Speaker 1: So it's.

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01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because Gilbert, when is it Diego Diego Sanchez

2143
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 3: fought again? Who fucked Gilbert?

2144
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 4: War?

2145
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 1: Forty five?

2146
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 4: The Gilbert fight was, I mean, it's probably self explanatory,

2147
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 4: but was this fifty five? Right? It was also their No,

2148
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 4: it was. I think it was forty five. But it

2149
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 4: was the furthest the longest ago. That's the way I'm

2150
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 4: trying to He's an Englishman, Arnold Allen, Yes, sir.

2151
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the one to gil dump down to Jesus

2152
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 1: was off?

2153
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 4: All right, I'll see eure up one nothing. Next up

2154
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 4: we got heavyweight Mark Hunt, Tom Aspinall and Junior Dos Santos.

2155
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: Who's fortun.

2156
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 3: No nods?

2157
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 1: Who's not Blades?

2158
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 4: Is it? It is?

2159
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's right.

2160
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: If you put a gun to my head and you

2161
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 1: were like, tell me about Blades versus JDS, I'd be like,

2162
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:10,679
Speaker 1: I can't talk about fake news. I have no memory

2163
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 1: of this fight.

2164
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually I don't remember that either. All right.

2165
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:19,759
Speaker 4: Next up, we got women's strawweight Alexa Grosso, Carla Sparza

2166
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 4: and Wayi Jang.

2167
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 3: Isn't a Rose?

2168
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:23,600
Speaker 2: No?

2169
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 3: Rose didn't fight Alexa since one fifteen so it's Alexa

2170
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 3: Alexa for Carlo. I'm so bad at this fucking game.

2171
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 2: I hate you.

2172
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 3: I hate you all. I hate you all.

2173
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 1: I hate this game too.

2174
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 3: I'm so bad at them, Luci viewers, as we.

2175
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 4: Talk, one half of a UFC power couple.

2176
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 1: Oh, Titia Torres Nope, Rocky nope. Oh that's a wrong

2177
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 1: division on us. One is there?

2178
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 5: You go?

2179
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 4: Rodrio?

2180
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:05,759
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus?

2181
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 4: All right, two one LT. Next up, we got welterweight

2182
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 4: Michael Morales, Kelvin Gasolom and Balal Mohammed Sean Brady.

2183
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 1: Damn right.

2184
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 4: I feel like Michael Morales was a dead giveaway there.

2185
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 4: Maybe should have chose someone else, but all right, ELT

2186
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 4: three to one. Next up, we got bantam weight Jose Aldo.

2187
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 4: Song you dong and you're Riyah Faber.

2188
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 3: The original was the one that's throwing me off.

2189
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: Jesus Aldos fought like half the free world.

2190
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 4: Give us a hind dude, uh uh fucking currently a champion.

2191
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:54,679
Speaker 4: I guess that's a dead giveaway I gave you. Yeah,

2192
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 4: yes it is Pyotr.

2193
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I always forget there, are Y you

2194
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 3: are your favorite fight?

2195
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think once again, gun to your head to

2196
01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 1: save your family, Luke, tell me about your Ryah Favor

2197
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 1: versus Yahn.

2198
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 4: I will. I literally have the poster behind me.

2199
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 3: I believe it was.

2200
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 1: I have to tell forever.

2201
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 4: Ousman versus Covington. I believe it was the opening bout

2202
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 4: and uh he dropped your eye of favor like three

2203
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 4: times in that fight. It was sick and yeah, I

2204
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 4: do remember that. Thank you very much.

2205
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 3: All right.

2206
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 4: Next up, we got woman's flyweight Jessica I, Gillian Robertson,

2207
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 4: and Roxanne Mauna fav.

2208
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 1: Man BC is pants around the ankles.

2209
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 4: Shout out Roxanne Mona Fairy, former training partner of missus.

2210
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 1: Tom My wife. Yes, that's right, I love mm bro.

2211
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get this. I'm never gonna get this.

2212
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 4: All right, Well, she is a current top ten I know.

2213
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 4: I said they're all rank she's currently top ten. She

2214
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 4: has headline. Had she headlined an event before, I don't

2215
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 4: want to it is Mac. I was gonna say. I

2216
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:07,640
Speaker 4: don't know if she technically headlined an event because she

2217
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 4: did pull out of that headliner that might have been

2218
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,600
Speaker 4: her only one, so technically maybe not, but yes it

2219
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 4: was Macy barber Or. We got three more guys. Next up,

2220
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:21,839
Speaker 4: light light heavyweight Volcanos, Demir, Cory Anderson, Paul Kleig.

2221
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 1: It's not Unclia, is it?

2222
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:29,759
Speaker 3: No? No, it's.

2223
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 1: Is it Walker?

2224
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 4: It is John Walker. Jesus, I'll see you're doing good today. Yeah, finally,

2225
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 4: Well you got the bumb opponents, so yes, but he's

2226
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 4: been quick with like like the showing Brady one was

2227
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 4: like two seconds.

2228
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 1: That one was kind of easy. The other ones are

2229
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 1: that when you got like Jessica on raw no not

2230
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: just gonna drive but just I I'm like.

2231
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 4: I don't fucking know. Yeah, here we go evil, all right.

2232
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 4: Next up, we got lightweight Ben Wall, Saintany, Raphael Dosanios,

2233
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 4: Cub Swanson.

2234
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 3: So Cub of light was the cub one a lightweight?

2235
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 3: Do you remember?

2236
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 4: I do not remember? And the answer does go between

2237
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 4: both divisions, So got it, dud.

2238
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 1: Cub halfil dos Angos has fought.

2239
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,480
Speaker 3: The moment, I says, like, did he fight Dosanos?

2240
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,600
Speaker 4: Yes, he got finished, I think, or no, maybe it

2241
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:31,560
Speaker 4: went the distance, but he got his. It was like

2242
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 4: life change and beating for like yeah, if it was

2243
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 4: either a like fourth round corner stoppage or it was

2244
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 4: the Artica whatever the fuck but either way, he got

2245
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 4: his ass beach a really long time. Last one we

2246
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:49,879
Speaker 4: got middleweight Kamaro Usman Israel, Ota Sonia and Alex Pereira.

2247
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 4: I recognize all three of these men are in different divisions,

2248
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 4: but the answer is a middleweight.

2249
01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 1: Oh it's uh, Sean Strickland.

2250
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 4: It is Sean Strickton as they call him, Sean Strickland.

2251
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that name is just blocked from my brain.

2252
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I understand. Guys, that was Eskimo Brothers.

2253
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:11,680
Speaker 4: Hope you enjoyed it.

2254
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 1: Very good, Thank you long all not that much. Get

2255
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: Let's remind everyone Morning Coombat dot shop if you want

2256
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: to get the teachers, remember tomorrow is the last day

2257
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 1: you gotta go to Morning Coombat dot shop and get

2258
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 1: the Army of Darkness either shirt or poster. And of

2259
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: course we do have the evergreens up available. Those don't

2260
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: go away tomorrow, but the one for tomorrow, the Army

2261
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: of Darkness one. That's it. We can reach the show

2262
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: at via email excuse me Morning Combat at gmail dot com,

2263
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 1: and of course you can put our socials up below. Rodrigo.

2264
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how accessible your content is for Americans,

2265
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 1: but plug what you got good, sir.

2266
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 3: If you're in Latin America, you can see me at

2267
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:54,679
Speaker 3: Claudo Sports. I do the news, I do games, soccer,

2268
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 3: I do everything. We do have an MMAH in Latin

2269
01:52:56,920 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 3: America every Thursday night. If you're in the UN else,

2270
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 3: you can see me at Being Sports US A in

2271
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:05,639
Speaker 3: funt you can see me in a couple of hours,

2272
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 3: about an hour and a half with league on football.

2273
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 3: We do have a Spanish speaking show in the US

2274
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 3: called Extra Time. And I was in soccer, but I

2275
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 3: do jump between English and Spanish in Being Sports USA.

2276
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 3: And if you like INMA, I'll see you tonight at

2277
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 3: about ten pm Eastern Time on u SE Fight Best

2278
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 3: calling Luke's Fight League in English from Mexico City.

2279
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 1: Wow, very cool, that's awesome. My man's out here busy

2280
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 1: help me out with my Spanish. My only understanding of

2281
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 1: the word claudo means, of course, what does it mean clear?

2282
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 1: Clear clear?

2283
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:38,839
Speaker 3: Okay, also means clear.

2284
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 1: Claro ah okay. That's learn something new every day. You'll

2285
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:47,679
Speaker 1: be You'll be proud of me, Rodrigo. I'm taking Spanish

2286
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 1: classes now.

2287
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 3: Good, I appreciate it. She'd be taking Portuguese classes and

2288
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 3: final co Kingdom.

2289
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 1: No moto, it's you know, it's not that I've heard.

2290
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 1: It's not that hard to go from Spanish to Portuguese.

2291
01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 3: It's kind hard. It's kind of hard.

2292
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 4: It's kind.

2293
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 1: All right. My brother in law somehow found a way

2294
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: to do it. But obviously I'm still working on I'm

2295
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 1: stillorking on my Spanish. All right, Rodrigo, thank you so much, man,

2296
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate it. Great information. We'll definitely have

2297
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 1: you back on again.

2298
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 3: Maybe not for trivia though, okay, no, no, no no,

2299
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 3: I'll skip before that one.

2300
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 4: Thank you. Watch along tomorrow, yes, full card, Watch Along

2301
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 4: five pm Eastern. Also in about thirty four minutes again,

2302
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 4: I got Jose Young's versus Aaron broad Setter prop quiz

2303
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 4: belt on the line, twenty dollars on the line, Tune in,

2304
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 4: don't miss it.

2305
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 1: Lets there you have it all right for Long Island

2306
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 1: for Rodrigo, I'm lt. I'll see you guys on Monday

2307
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 1: in studio. By the way, we're back finally in studio.

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01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: Until next time, in all of your gains, be loyal