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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Fox Football Sunday. Honored

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Speaker 2: to be back in the chair with you this morning. Hi,

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Garbin alongside my guys Andy Furman, broadcast legend,

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Speaker 2: and I got Bucky Books on his road to doing

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Speaker 2: just the same. You read him NFL dot com, Foxsports

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Speaker 2: dot Com, part of the Jaguars broadcast squad. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to the Jaguars as part of our overarching world this morning. Andy,

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Speaker 2: you find him at Andy Furman FSR. Find me over

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Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome. So much swirling as we get towards

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Speaker 2: day four of our playoff action, four out of five,

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Speaker 2: going back to the college games of earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of chaos here in Southern California with

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Speaker 2: one of the games being moved, and that's the Monday

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Speaker 2: nighter as the Vik and Rams will take the field

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Speaker 2: there in Arizona State Farm. Look, I know all of

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Speaker 2: the the jokes being made about insurance companies and everything

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Speaker 2: as related to Southern California. We'll let you guys fight

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Speaker 2: that out in the social media spheres. Our job here

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Speaker 2: is to talk about the games themselves and maybe settle

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Speaker 2: some stuff from bottom barrel bedding.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I'm so sorry you brought that up,

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Speaker 3: because now I feel like a real piece of garbage

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Speaker 3: because I just googled Croatia. There are twenty five lakes

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Speaker 3: in Croatia and forty seven in Japan. Okay, but that's

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Speaker 3: that's not the only waterways in the place. Okay, We've

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Speaker 3: got to talk about indoor workout places like gyms that

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Speaker 3: have pools.

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Speaker 4: So I still may be in the running, but still.

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Speaker 3: I lost out in the waterways with lakes Japan forty

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Speaker 3: seven and Croatia twenty down, I'm down the dumps.

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Speaker 5: You like, Hey, de Pansan Island, I was just gonna.

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Speaker 3: Go into the I'm gonna send you to Rikers Island

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Speaker 3: if you don't start.

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Speaker 1: Wow, look at that.

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Speaker 5: The threats Bucky already won.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here we go. Just square miles of coachline. I

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Speaker 2: just did a quick search on that. Oh great, So

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Speaker 2: thirty six hundred and twenty six square miles for Croatia

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Speaker 2: coachline eighteen thousand and four eighty six for Japan.

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Speaker 1: Uh So that's twenty percent.

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Speaker 5: I've I got the sweet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not American, but how.

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Speaker 3: Many gyms, how many indoor water facilities, pools to work out.

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Speaker 5: I think it's your turn to look some of this up.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that. But you look, they're not going

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Speaker 3: to practice water pull in the ocean. Okay, let's be

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Speaker 3: honest about that.

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Speaker 2: All it was was you made a generalization about the

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Speaker 2: availability of water to the people of Croatia.

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Speaker 4: I wish there was availability of water in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: That's as we as we all do handy right now.

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Speaker 2: Certainly A uh, that was a good just space and

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Speaker 2: very apt, very appropriate. We should get you an interview.

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Speaker 4: With the assistant fight achieve that too.

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Speaker 2: Get that to Gavin Newsom and everybody else in the politicos. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's certainly the last several days. I will say this,

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Speaker 2: Fellas Bucky. I hope everybody in your in your world

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Speaker 2: is doing okay. I would say this for me, it's

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Speaker 2: been endearing talking with Mark and Shay.

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Speaker 1: Shay. Obviously he's been without power for several days, so finally.

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Speaker 5: Getting that, finally got a good text tonight.

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Speaker 2: In the overnight, right, so we get a little positivity there.

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Speaker 2: For me, it's brought out some family, extended family and

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Speaker 2: and old friends. Of years gone by who may be

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Speaker 2: aware of the works here at Fox Sports Radio kind

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Speaker 2: of reaching out to say hello. So so that's been

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Speaker 2: a good thing. Some people I haven't heard from in

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Speaker 2: some time checking in on us. Jason Smith and I

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Speaker 2: On Friday night, we were the last live show before

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Speaker 2: there was a stretch because the fires had gotten close.

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Speaker 4: There was something with my serious XCENT Radio.

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Speaker 3: I turned the radio one late in in the morning,

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Speaker 3: early hours of the morning. I'm hearing Ben Mallie saying,

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas?

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So, you know contingency plan where suddenly it became the

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Speaker 2: You know, there is a short time during the holidays

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Speaker 2: where they go to a best of, right as we

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Speaker 2: celebrate the Christmas holidays. How come this show doesn't have

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Speaker 2: a best of? It's a good question that I'll leave.

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Speaker 6: I'll make one.

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Speaker 2: I'll leave that with the powers that be. And now

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Speaker 2: you see, now, now you guys are going into pay

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Speaker 2: structure or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I didn't do about the pay bring up the money?

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Speaker 1: Why we don't? Can you see how sideways this all

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Speaker 1: went really fast?

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Speaker 4: Do you think there's problems with professional athletes.

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Speaker 3: With teams with money, like with say Kwam Barkley situation,

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Speaker 3: all that stuff with money?

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding with? With T Higgins, I got a

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Speaker 5: Gonna I'm gonna get a fine from my arm media all.

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Speaker 2: He's getting called into the offices over things you're saying

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Speaker 2: because he's he's got the executive producer title.

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Speaker 4: Chase and we've got.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He's a high, high leverage performer, just like Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 2: I think we get a touchdown a week out of Shae.

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Speaker 2: I mean he gave you bottom barrel betting. He spanned

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Speaker 2: the globe for you. I'd like to see you got

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Speaker 2: a question about Croatia and Japan.

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Speaker 1: I mean this guy leaves no stone unturned for you.

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Speaker 4: Multi ye, no cut contract?

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Speaker 1: How about that? See?

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Speaker 2: Now there there's something. Get that letter writing campaign going,

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Speaker 2: Get me one of those while you're at it, like

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Speaker 2: one too, exactly, Shae and Mark making us sound so

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Speaker 2: pretty as we are this morning, blessed to be with you,

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Speaker 2: part of the Tended family. You know, there's always those

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Speaker 2: sobering moments, you know, certainly with all the news footage

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Speaker 2: as we've been here in the studio, fellas, uh, you

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Speaker 2: you know, we had the news on throughout the week

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Speaker 2: were going to get any uh kind of precipitation, but

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Speaker 2: certainly containment uh and grids and and politicians and local folks,

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Speaker 2: so being able to provide a little bit of levity

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Speaker 2: in the midst of that. And obviously there's weather events

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Speaker 2: all over the place. We're talking about, you know, Dallas

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Speaker 2: And we talk about preparedness and and allocation of resources

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Speaker 2: and all of that and and and rolling through. But

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Speaker 2: certainly our job to try to bring it back into

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Speaker 2: the world of sports, give people a release from their

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Speaker 2: day to day and that's certainly every day here at

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Speaker 1: Whatever you're going through in your.

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Speaker 2: Professional and personal lives, maybe a couple of minutes of

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Speaker 2: To give us a little bit of relief. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: we're not living and dying with every play, Don't get

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Speaker 2: me wrong. Certainly watch that over the two college football

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Speaker 2: playoff games in the social media sphere, and certainly the

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Speaker 2: high drama of both those games. Drew Aller in the

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Speaker 2: Thursday game in those final moments, and then certainly Friday

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Speaker 2: Quinn viewers feeling it not only the heat because he

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Speaker 2: didn't get a pass off, but play calling for Sarkesian

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Speaker 2: and I still think the right tackle getting a little

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Speaker 2: as well. But we might as well begin begin in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, right that's where a lot of our mindset is.

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Speaker 1: Bucky and I.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we revisit college and Andy will do that maybe

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Speaker 2: to that that Chargers game against Houston. Everybody looking at

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Speaker 2: wringing our hands about Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Not that we get too deep.

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Speaker 2: Into officiating, but I had a couple of questions. You know,

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Speaker 2: we always look at intentional grounding, and maybe you.

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Speaker 1: Had a situation where CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud got away with one that eventually becomes a big

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Speaker 2: possession for the Texans. Likewise, you had an interception by

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Speaker 2: Derwin James that gets overturned that I'm not quite so

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Speaker 2: sure was conclusive and should have been two monster plays

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Speaker 2: in terms of how this game plays out. Doesn't excuse

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Speaker 2: care of business early on right, big possessions and you

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Speaker 2: for the Chargers, a lot of expectations with Harball coming

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Speaker 2: in and performed well during the regular season. But Houston

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Speaker 2: a squad that was all but left for dead, suddenly

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Speaker 2: their defense rises up and takes them down. Andy as

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Speaker 2: as you roll through Harbaugh isms all over the place,

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Speaker 2: because we're attacking this day with relentless enthusiasm, there's no

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Speaker 2: a disappointment going on the road as favorites.

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Speaker 3: You know, I want to mention one thing you mentioned

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Speaker 3: about the officiating. I mean, I have noticed also a

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Speaker 3: and I understand it's such a tough call and sometimes

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Speaker 3: Maybe they need more officials. I don't know. I remember

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Speaker 3: when the NBA had a problem, they edited a third official.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they hit another official. I don't know, but I

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Speaker 3: do know this. I mean I think people were shocked.

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Speaker 3: I thought the Bucky about this. He was somewhat surprised

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Speaker 3: that the Charges lost and lost the way they did.

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Speaker 3: This guy justin Herbert had three interceptions all year long.

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Speaker 3: He had four yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, Will Disley should get credit for

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Speaker 2: one of them. Like unfortunately they all go on the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But Herbert did sail a couple. I mean the first

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Speaker 2: my arm strength is going to get it there. Well,

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Speaker 2: sometimes it does a great undercut by the defender there.

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Speaker 2: And then we watched as Stingley and the other defenders

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Speaker 2: element of the run game that is so much the

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Speaker 2: harball ism Bucky as JK. Dobbins was a non factor.

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Speaker 1: In this one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no factor, and you know, the charts have been

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Speaker 6: so good all year at just really not making the

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Speaker 6: big mistakes, allowing the other team to implode in winning

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Speaker 6: games that way, and on the bigger stage where they're

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Speaker 6: playing a playoff game and an opponent that had been

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Speaker 6: there the year before, it looked like the Chargers were

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Speaker 6: the inexperienced playoff team where they just needed to settle

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Speaker 6: Stroud gets hot, makes a play, Joe Mixing gets to

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Speaker 6: and it was an avalanche of just good plays and

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Speaker 6: this game is thirty and twelve. What happened? I never

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable how certain people, certain athletes, you know, get into

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Speaker 4: In the school, it says deception, that's it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it says. So he has to play better. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had the big lead that they

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can play what you have. But I will

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Speaker 2: Certainly mccoggy Doggy's a beast rights on every level.

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Speaker 3: Now, now I could unveil this, Okay, pull back the curtain,

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Speaker 4: To charge?

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Speaker 3: Just think about they beat Vegas terrible, they beat Carolina terrible,

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Speaker 3: They beat Denver again, they beat New England terrible, and

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Speaker 2: Are you going to Herb Street and trying to argue

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just arguing that maybe they weren't that good defensively.

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Speaker 4: They weren't challenged.

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Speaker 2: The year to year it's going to be different, right

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Speaker 2: Herbert off balance. How many times was he hit? How

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Speaker 2: many times did they get after his arm and effect

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Speaker 3: But he held off to the ball too, that's his

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Speaker 4: Think about that. They don't. They don't say that as well.

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Speaker 3: Bad offensive line. But but he gets rid of the

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Speaker 2: No, But that that's that's the thing, right that, that's

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Speaker 1: And you know, I do like that.

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Speaker 1: And the Houston Texans were talking.

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Speaker 4: About the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about comparing quarterbacks as it we're doing. You know,

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Speaker 3: I want to put this to rest. Also, how how

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? I mean really, I mean, stop

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Speaker 2: I just didn't want to play a game. They took

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Speaker 3: Right, and you know what, it was Cincinnati in that situation,

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Speaker 2: And any another team that everybody was crying about getting

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Speaker 4: Are you listening to Alabama?

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Speaker 1: Exactly?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, you got to take care of your business early

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Speaker 2: because those dams count late. Northwest, you want to go

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Speaker 1: Get set for relegation before this is all over.

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Speaker 2: Andy, Although they have made some moves in the in

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Speaker 4: Have you put any not to be personal? Have you

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Speaker 6: There?

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Speaker 2: You know what I actually give you a different part

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Speaker 2: But again, the program is not made for that those

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Speaker 1: From the football side of things.

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Speaker 2: Look, I like the mini stadium and I'm curious to

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Speaker 2: But you know, the idea that you're going to compete

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Speaker 3: Show about that, I honestly believe that most of these

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Speaker 3: I mean they're already zero and three in basketball. They

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Speaker 3: That's what it's in, right, Isn't that what it's all about?

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Speaker 6: Buck? I mean, checks are checks are always good and accumulate.

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Speaker 2: And but I mean, being part of the conference, right,

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Speaker 4: I still call it the Big ten? I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: That's all right? Look, the Big ten is at eighteen teams.

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Speaker 2: They're not changing it, right, right, Like I've already sat

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Speaker 1: But it's that kind of thing, right, You're trying to

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Speaker 2: And that was you know the part of the stuff

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Speaker 2: as an independent you make a big bet, you make

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Speaker 2: the big plays and it works, right. James Franklin was

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Speaker 1: How old are you like all of that stuff?

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know that I've cheered that much, like

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Speaker 2: Was that back then Northwestern wasn't considered an actual member

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Speaker 6: See Andy, I told you that's what it is. That's

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Speaker 4: Mean he's the guy and.

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Speaker 6: Wwe that that would be talking before you know it,

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Speaker 6: No, No, it's just his personality.

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Speaker 6: who was on the complete other side of it. Right, Like,

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Speaker 6: we went from a time where everyone hated Notre Dame

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Speaker 6: because Notre Dame was basically the college version of the

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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys. But he's so likable and lovable that he

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Speaker 6: is transforming what we think about Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: You know, think about how we got the job. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Brian Kelly left. I don't think there was a great

447
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Speaker 3: search committee out there. He just just boom, here's the

448
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Speaker 3: job that he opens up his career losing to Marshall

449
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Speaker 3: and right away they wanted his head.

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Speaker 4: Think about that, right.

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Speaker 2: Tough couple of years, absolutely, and what he meant to

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Speaker 2: the players in that program.

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Speaker 1: You go back to those.

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Speaker 2: Videos, and let's face it, Brian Kelly is not a

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Speaker 2: likable guy for many. Many they go back to his

456
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Speaker 2: origin stories is unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: The way he left Cincinnati, well, oh my god.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think I think, I mean, all those

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Speaker 6: coaches always leave funny Tommy Tullbyville ducking out of it clean.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's always whatever, but the irony of

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Speaker 6: it all when it comes to Brian Kelly leaving Notre

462
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Speaker 6: Dame to go to LSU because it gives him supposedly

463
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Speaker 6: a better opportunity of international title, and then Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 6: has stayed. And I would say this, like, this team

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Speaker 6: still embraces all the things that we talk about when

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Speaker 6: it comes to academics or whatever, but they still have

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Speaker 6: a little bit of an They have more of an

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Speaker 6: edge to them than they've had, and that has been

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Speaker 6: the big difference to know that. Now we'll see what

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Speaker 6: it looks like when they take on the juggernaut in

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Speaker 6: Ohio State in terms of the talent level and all

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Speaker 6: of that. But they certainly have blown through the competition

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Speaker 6: to kind of put respect back on Notre Dame's name

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Speaker 6: as a national power.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now I've read a lot of material right now

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Speaker 3: saying that it's great for college football that Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: is won, and going through the fund, I think college

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Speaker 3: football has been pretty good, steed, pretty healthy. It's great

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Speaker 3: that Notre Dame's dad, but I don't think Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: is the savior of college football.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: No, But it's like like Bucky reference to Cowboys when

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Speaker 2: they're relevant. Look, we're going to talk about the Cowboys

484
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Speaker 2: whenever we're going to talk about Notre Dame whatever, But

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Speaker 2: when they're actually winning, it injects a little extra juice

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Speaker 2: to things.

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Speaker 3: A little juice, a little brilliant like when the Yankees

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Speaker 3: played the Dodgers in the series.

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Speaker 2: Right when when those big names are involved. Because look,

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Speaker 2: hate watching is a real thing. And while you may

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Speaker 2: not hate Notre Dame, the this this iteration with Marcus

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Speaker 2: Freeman and company, there's still the residual.

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Speaker 3: Stuff that that's why people listen to us show.

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Speaker 4: It's hate listening.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's why we're in. We're adored globally.

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman FSR at Bucky Brooks at Swollen Home.

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Speaker 2: As we go back through, we'll continue college football and

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Speaker 2: the National Football League as we await more playoff action

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Speaker 2: and also the coaching hiring cycle, all the fun that

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Hey, welcome back

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Speaker 2: know what, I wanted to bring one thing back though, guys,

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Speaker 2: because we did have a special Saturday, a couple of

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Speaker 2: playoff games here on a huge wild card weekend. A

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Speaker 2: three Day Extravaganza. Three games later on today, one Monday night.

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Speaker 2: This was really the turning point. This was the big

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Speaker 2: moment in that Chargers Texans game. Let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of clean, that's dirty? Is that dirty bubble?

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Speaker 6: No, Harball is gonna have to take a shower.

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Speaker 1: Careful call down, you gentle, No, there you go.

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Speaker 2: The alternate broadcast was the SpongeBob broadcast. Nate Burlison alongside

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Speaker 2: SpongeBob and Patrick Starr and Jim Harbaugh got kidnapped right

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Speaker 2: after that the first interception from Justin Herbert, and it

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Speaker 2: all went south for the Chargers after that moment.

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Speaker 3: Did you watch the SpongeBob version.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, for a good chunk of it,

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Speaker 2: I did. I went back and watched the regular broadcast

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Speaker 2: later on. But yeah, you know, I I enjoy those.

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Speaker 2: I got to embrace my inner child as we've If

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Speaker 2: we've learned anything this week here in Southern California, Andy

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Speaker 2: Furman is we got to keep that childlike wonder and

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Speaker 2: hope alive.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: So wherever we get those, we do. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was upset the game was on the time that

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Speaker 3: it was on because the three Stooges are usually on

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Speaker 3: the other channel that time.

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Speaker 2: I'm safely so you got to have a multi screen

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Speaker 2: experience going on there, Andy Furman, Yes, multitasking. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's go to that other game, because this wraps into

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Speaker 2: a much larger issue as we watch the Ravens literally

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Speaker 2: run all over the Pittsburgh Steelers. And I don't usually

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Speaker 2: agree with Kirk krb Street about much in the way

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Speaker 2: of football analysis and overarching things about you know, collegiate

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Speaker 2: and professional sports, but calling out the effort or lack

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Speaker 2: thereof by the Steelers might have been the most appropriate

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Speaker 2: thing that we'll be said about these playoffs in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form. As we watched the Ravens run for

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Speaker 2: either two hundred and ninety nine yards or nice and

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Speaker 2: rounded up to three hundred if you got there, you

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Speaker 2: watched Lamar Jackson have his way, Derrick Henry running wild.

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Speaker 2: Some great quotes from Lamar Jackson in the post game

563
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Speaker 2: comparing Derrick Henry running to Lightning McQueen speeding by you

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Speaker 2: in the movie Cars. So all of that to say

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Speaker 2: for the Steelers, the latest iteration Russell Wilson with some Okay,

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Speaker 2: he gets some stats at the end. George Pickens finishes

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Speaker 2: with five catches, a couple of big plays in the

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Speaker 2: second half. But when it mattered, he was, you know,

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Speaker 2: was wearing a cloak of invisibility. If we're gonna go

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Speaker 2: down the movie route, he's part of the Harry Potter

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Speaker 2: universe or John Cena. You can't see him. You choose

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Speaker 2: your own adventure as that goes. But even when they

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Speaker 2: scored the fourteen points, never in doubt. Baltimore comes right back,

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Speaker 2: Henry rips off another big run, even without Zay Flowers.

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Speaker 2: It didn't matter. They were able to do whatever they wanted.

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Speaker 2: So it begs the quot question. Now for the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: you know you're not going to out and out fire

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. You extended him. But Bucky, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 2: Do you consider trading.

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Speaker 6: Him for who? Like I'm so much.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, But but again it becomes a to be

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Speaker 1: b two c MO.

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Speaker 6: So my thing is, and I mentioned this to Andy early,

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Speaker 6: whatever you feel about Mike Tomlin, you should feel the

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Speaker 6: same way about Kyle Shanahan. So if you're perpetually disappointed

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Speaker 6: with your team not getting to the winner circle, then

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Speaker 6: you should feel the same way in San Francisco with

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Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin. What you have and I don't think any

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Speaker 6: of us. I think Vegas had the over under on

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Speaker 6: their wins at eight and a half. I don't know

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Speaker 6: if anyone had picked them to win the division going

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Speaker 6: into it. I think what fans need to have as

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Speaker 6: a realistic view on how good the team really is,

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Speaker 6: you know, I would say that the team is what

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Speaker 6: we saw last night. Baltimore was a superior team, and

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Speaker 6: Baltimore was supposed to be a team that competed for

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Speaker 6: the super What you have, though, is you have the

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Speaker 6: way they finish and the fact that they haven't won

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Speaker 6: a playoff game since twenty eighteen, so six straight playoff

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Speaker 6: losses that hangs over the head of the franchise. What

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Speaker 6: I would hate to do, if I'm a Stilless fan,

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Speaker 6: is to look for more and end up with less

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Speaker 6: and so you can move on from him because there

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Speaker 6: is there appears to be like a ceiling, as everyone says.

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Speaker 6: They're kind of like the Atlanta Braids in the nineties

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Speaker 6: where they win the division but they can't win the

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Speaker 6: World Series. But would you rather be in the tournament

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Speaker 6: with an opportunity to win it? Or would you rather

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Speaker 6: bottom out and then occasionally win it like the Miami

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Speaker 6: Marlins or the Florida Marlins. That's what you have to determine,

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Speaker 6: because I don't know who's going to be the better coach,

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Speaker 6: the automatic upgrade over what Mike Tomlin is in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't guarantee him a lifetime Achievement award where he

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Speaker 6: should be there. I just think that if you're going

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Speaker 6: to move, you have to be able to demonstrate, hey,

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Speaker 6: we got a better coach for you than Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 6: And so I'm just waiting to see who that person

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Speaker 6: could possibly be.

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Speaker 3: I want to go back and comment on what you said,

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Speaker 3: mister Harmon about Kurbhurbstreet's comments about effort Okay.

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Speaker 4: Good, bitter and different.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to run this by Bucky Brooks. When an

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Speaker 3: ex athlete and Kirk Kurbstreet was an athlete because he

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Speaker 3: played for Ohio State quarterback, does it mean more coming

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Speaker 3: from him? Or if a fool like me says that

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Speaker 3: and an athlete hears that, does he take it in

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Speaker 3: a worse manner Because I never played the game. You're

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Speaker 3: an athlete and you hear the comments from the effort

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Speaker 3: factor from a Kirk Herbstreet then you hear it from me.

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Speaker 4: Does it make a difference.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, but I'll say this, I had my

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Speaker 6: own things when it comes to like quarterbacks in commentary,

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Speaker 6: particularly when it comes to like defense and physicality in

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Speaker 6: those things, like it's find that Kirkharbstreet did it, I

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Speaker 6: didn't feel like that is really what showed up in

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Speaker 6: terms of like the lack of effort or whatever. I

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Speaker 6: feel like Baltimore is a team that when you have

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Speaker 6: the combined force of Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 6: they decided to be who they are where they've ran

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Speaker 6: the football. I mean, it's like being a boxer in

641
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Speaker 6: a ring where the guy's just welling away at your

642
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Speaker 6: solar flexus. At some point you're gonna wear down. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And if they keep deciding that, hey man, we're just

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Speaker 6: gonna keep throwing these body blows and body blows and

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Speaker 6: body blows, at some point, you wear down, particularly when

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Speaker 6: your offense doesn't hold onto the ball. So I wouldn't

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Speaker 6: say it's necessarily effort. I would say it's a team

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Speaker 6: that is discouraged because you're looking up and you're like, man,

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Speaker 6: there's no chance. We don't have it.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens two seventy four, Tinder, seventy more rushing guys

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers, And if you watch that screen on

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Speaker 3: the TV last night, it looked like the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 3: defensive front had their tongues hanging out.

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Speaker 4: They were dying nobody.

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Speaker 2: They're on the field forever right right, and your offense

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Speaker 2: is going three and out, or when you do have

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Speaker 2: a potential to stop things, he puns on fourth and one, Like,

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Speaker 2: at some point, you got to try to give these

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Speaker 2: guys a little bit of a break. You got to

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Speaker 2: think that you can get that yard and keep them

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Speaker 2: on the sidelines, and if nothing else, keep Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: and Derrick Henry on the sidelines just a little bit

663
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Speaker 2: longer to give yourself a puncher's chance.

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Speaker 1: And that's really all it is.

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Speaker 2: And Bucky, you know, for the Tomlin discussion, I'm not

666
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Speaker 2: saying there's anybody better out there. I'm just wondering if

667
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Speaker 2: for him, how does he go into Omar Khan, how

668
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 2: does he go to the roonies and be like, all right,

669
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Speaker 2: I can coach up what's out there. It's and I

670
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just some level what Belichick was doing,

671
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Speaker 2: except he got to pick all the groceries. Not that

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Speaker 2: Tomlin has no say in any of this, but philosophically

673
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Speaker 2: it's the Yeah, I can coach him up and I

674
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: can get us to the dance, but you're not giving

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Speaker 2: me a team that's getting me over the top.

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Speaker 4: I'll go on step further. Even if there was anybody

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Speaker 4: better out there, I don't think there is.

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Speaker 3: He's not getting fired. He's the man, and that organization

679
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Speaker 3: doesn't fire coaches.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it. I mean, look my lifetime, there's right, and.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this, I think what they Okay, So here's

682
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Speaker 6: my estimation of what I think they tried to do,

683
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Speaker 6: and then we've got to go to a break. They've

684
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Speaker 6: tried to do an ongoing rebuild on the fly, so

685
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: they've been winning while they're flipping the roster in terms

686
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Speaker 6: of like the offensive line. They haven't got a quarterback.

687
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 6: Kenny Picker was supposed to be that guy until he

688
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 6: got up out of there, you know. So they have

689
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Speaker 6: the pieces in place, but until they get that next

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Speaker 6: Ben Roethlisberger, their corners spin their wheels into AFC because

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Speaker 6: the common denominated with all the teams that are doing

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Speaker 6: it in the AFC. They all have superhero quarterbacks and

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Speaker 6: until the Pittsburgh still is get their version, this is

694
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Speaker 6: kind of where that ceiling is. And there's not a

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Speaker 6: version that's going to come in the draft this year.

696
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Speaker 6: There's not a free agent that you can bring over

697
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Speaker 6: to give them that. They're kind of stuck in this

698
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Speaker 6: quarterback purgatory until someone shows up with magical skills.

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Speaker 2: I already gave you the Sophie's choice Rogers or Russell Wilson.

700
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: That was last week's thing is torture your souls. He's

701
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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. That's Andy Furman at Bucky Brooks at Andy

702
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Speaker 2: Furman FSR. Find me over at Swollen Dome. As we

703
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: roll on, We've got four games to run through right quick.

704
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Speaker 2: I know you guys did a little of this earlier.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a different spin on it as we go forward.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

710
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Speaker 7: listen live.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Live from the tyrerac dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Blessed to be with you here this morning alongside my squad,

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Speaker 2: my guys, Andy Furman at Andy Furman FSR. See what

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Speaker 2: he's got popping on the radio and in the written format.

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks Foxsports dot Com, NFL dot Com work with

717
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Speaker 2: the Jaguar. They've got some decisions of their own this week.

718
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: We've got six teams with hundreds of interviews. It would

719
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: seem the list keeps getting longer. You guys get a

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Speaker 2: call from either the Bearers or the Jets yet.

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Speaker 6: No, But I appreciate the throwness of the searches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's something to be said for it and

723
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Speaker 2: leaving no stone unturned. Hey, Andy over there in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: you excited about the possibility of Matt Eberflu showing up

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Speaker 2: as your defensive cordet.

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Speaker 4: How could they do that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, are you kidding they but not having a

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 3: I mean, how do you do that? What he's done

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Speaker 3: in Chicago? I mean, why would you take a guy

732
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Speaker 3: who's a failure? I don't understand that. I mean, and

733
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Speaker 3: you know, little Anarrumo was just a scapegoat. There's no

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Speaker 3: doubt in my mind. And when I had the news

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Speaker 3: conference to Cincinnati, they point blank ass Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 4: What do you think? He said, Well, well, I had

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Speaker 4: discussion with the upper management. No, you didn't.

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Speaker 3: You did because you hired the guy you hired. You've

739
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Speaker 3: been with Lou for six years. They told you to

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Speaker 3: fire Lou.

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Speaker 6: You know you.

742
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Speaker 4: You didn't want to fire Lou.

743
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Speaker 3: But believe me, I know that, and that hurt me

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Speaker 3: because I know Lou when he coached high school football

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Speaker 3: in Staten Island.

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Speaker 4: It's a good man. He's a good coach.

747
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: Had the one man ban of Hendrickson, you know, after

748
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Speaker 2: they got rid of Allen Williams last year and brought

749
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Speaker 2: in Montes sweat Iberflues. Did coach that defense up. So

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Speaker 2: you got that going for you. You can't say the

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Speaker 2: same for this year. Which one of these is not

752
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: like the other. Later on today and into tomorrow, we've

753
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Speaker 2: got four more playoff games. Fellas, only one team in

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Speaker 2: these playoffs out of these eight squads we're going to

755
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: watch today and tomorrow has a turnover differential in the

756
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Speaker 2: negative space, and that's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at minus five.

757
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: As Washington comes a calling looking for an upset out

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Speaker 2: of these four games, is that the one that we

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Speaker 2: find ourselves in, or do you guys have one you

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Speaker 2: want to disagree with and find elsewhere?

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Speaker 3: Andy, I think the closest one would be that game.

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Speaker 3: But I think the Packers could take the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: I really do.

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Speaker 1: All right, Bucky, you got one on upset.

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Speaker 6: No, I have commanders, the commanders on this is the

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Speaker 6: one where we can really crown Jaydon Daniels as one

767
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Speaker 6: of those upper echelon quarterbacks elite. Even this is an

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Speaker 6: opportunity for him to do it. We saw him get

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Speaker 6: beat the first week. Now he has an opportunity to

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Speaker 6: make it right.

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Speaker 2: Opportunity perhaps also for Cliff Kingsbury to find himself back

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Speaker 2: into the head coaching spheres.

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Speaker 1: Maybe possibly, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Chaos dozens ensue, but we're looking forward to these games

775
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: a little bit later on, you know, some myth making

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00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: perhaps in the possibilities at Andy furmant FSRS where you

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Speaker 2: find him. Andy, A blessing to be with you as always.

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Speaker 2: Here you go at Bucky Brooks, my guy will continue.

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Speaker 2: We've got another hour breaking down everything National Football League

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Speaker 2: and the college football playoffs. We'll do it next here

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Speaker 2: on Fox. Hey, welcome in another hour Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Here a beautiful wild Card Sunday, the fourth of five

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Speaker 2: days of playoff activity, owing back to Thursdays college football

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Speaker 2: playoffs Notre Dame and Penn State all the way through

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Speaker 2: your weekend Tomorrow night, rams and vikings from State Farms

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Speaker 2: Stadium there in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: We've got you covered all the way through.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in to another al Mike Harman alongside me, my guy,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks five years in the league, a scout, an analyst,

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Speaker 2: a coach, a media head.

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Speaker 1: What else do we want to call you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it all qualifies. I'm really excited to Mike, I'm

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Speaker 6: I'm excited because we got to we're getting to the

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Speaker 6: end of the football journey right that we always embark

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Speaker 6: on every year around August we talk about college football,

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Speaker 6: and this has been the extended postseason, first on twelve

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Speaker 6: team playoffs. So we have Notre Dame in Ohio State,

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Speaker 6: which is exciting to brand names, duking it out to

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Speaker 6: be the to win the Natty, and then the NFL

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Speaker 6: playoffs continue to amaze. Say a lot of things about

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Speaker 6: the NFL. They expanded it doing the weekend. The way

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Speaker 6: they're doing it Saturday, Sunday and Monday for games doesn't matter. Man.

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Speaker 6: I just look and I see all of these people

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Speaker 6: clamoring for games. I love it. I love where we're

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Speaker 6: at in the football landscape.

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Speaker 2: Well, every play heightened, every coaching decision magnified to the

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Speaker 2: bidder end. Not that we don't do it during the

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00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: regular season, buck yham In, you and I whenever we

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Speaker 2: get together on a Sunday, whether.

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Speaker 1: It's the college grid as we go through it.

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Speaker 2: With Andy Furman, our guy at Andy Furman FSR, if

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Speaker 2: you want to check in with Andy.

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Speaker 1: As the day goes on.

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Speaker 2: But in certainly for the NFL, like every stone that

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Speaker 2: we lift and look under as we're doing with some

816
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Speaker 2: of these squads now in the coaching carousel, trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out what's good, what's great, what's elite. Are you

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Speaker 2: trying to emulate what say Campbell and company have done

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Speaker 2: in Detroit? Are you trying to build a program with longevity?

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Speaker 2: And whether you like where they're at in the process

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Speaker 2: or not. We look at say the the Tomlin Steelers,

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Speaker 2: or go to the Harbaugh Ravens. Right they met for

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Speaker 2: the thirty eighth time and the in last night's wild

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Speaker 2: card game. So all of that to say, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're all trying to figure out the landscape. If you're

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Speaker 2: a fan of a team looking for a coach, you're

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Speaker 2: watching who's being brought in and looking back at their

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00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: histories and going how, what, why? And you know, for

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Speaker 2: the Raiders, how much does Tom Brady's thumb on the

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Speaker 2: scale impact things? So, you know, it just gives us

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Speaker 2: so many different levels of intrigue, And as we talked

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Speaker 2: about a little bit last hour, Bucky, just that diversion

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00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 2: from everything else, right for a couple hours, you escape.

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Speaker 2: You hear a lot of the people here in Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles right now, dem Off and his his squad, you know,

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00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: for the Rams doing a great job of trying to

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Speaker 2: get season ticket holders buses and amenities to get them

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Speaker 2: out to Arizona, give them a little respite, a little

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Speaker 2: bit of refuge, but also for that three hours to

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Speaker 2: get away from the reality of what's going on here

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Speaker 2: and in other spots here in the country.

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Speaker 1: Same thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, on a micro level, you know, people dealing

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Speaker 2: with their own individual lives and trials, and you know,

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Speaker 2: sports always is that great unifier and great relief.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sports are a great relief and this is a

847
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Speaker 6: very very difficult time obviously in LA with all the

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Speaker 6: wildfires and those that are impacted, because you have so

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Speaker 6: much of the city that has been impacted. And even

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Speaker 6: though on the national scene they portray it as if

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Speaker 6: it's just the affluent areas and the celebrities are the

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Speaker 6: ones that are losing their homes, when you really break

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Speaker 6: down the demographics, you talk about a working class of

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Speaker 6: people that have had their lives basically turned upside down

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Speaker 6: with fires. And to see the first responders doing everything

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Speaker 6: that they can to ensure that those people not only

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00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 6: hey can save their lives, but are able to say,

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Speaker 6: salvage some of what once existed. And it still won't

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00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 6: bring it all the way back, but you hope for that,

860
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 6: and so your heartbreaks for those people. And then what

861
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 6: you hope is that over the next six, eight ten

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00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 6: hours they're able to have a little bit of joy

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00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 6: injecting into their life and watching these games and watching

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Speaker 6: teams put on for them and their favorite players in

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Speaker 6: those things who have LA ties. And then on Monday

866
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 6: night when the Rams play, you hope that the Rams

867
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Speaker 6: are able to represent the city properly in those things.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, like it's a tough moment, and so if

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Speaker 6: we are able to provide a bit of a distraction

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Speaker 6: and some cover for the people that have been directly impacted,

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Speaker 6: that's what you hope for.

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Speaker 2: And that's the goal here at Fox Sports Radio, on

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Speaker 1: As we get to the business of.

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Speaker 2: The NFL, we talked with Andy last hour going through

882
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: the two games from Saturday. Neither really a shock, I

883
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: guess the Chargers and the way things fell apart after

884
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 2: some early advantages right the field goal but not being

885
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: able to capitalize and punch the ball into the end zone.

886
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: You have the early turnover that they get again push

887
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: back and what the Houston defense was able to do

888
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: over the course of the night and CJ. Stroud, who'd

889
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: gone through an uneven year, Bucky missing Nicocollins for a

890
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: stretch and obviously the off defensive line play, whether he

891
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: was holding the ball too long but missing Digs who

892
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: they acquired and missing Tank Dell being able to cobble

893
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 2: it together, and Joe Mixon after a fumble being able

894
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: to run a bit rough shot in that final Stanza

895
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: making a statement in a division that they win by default.

896
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: But for STJ.

897
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: Stroud, he was taking a lot of incoming his second year,

898
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: some unevenness with he and Bobby Slowick, who was a

899
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: hot commodity a year ago, again owing to that coaching

900
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: cycle kind of situation, but they survive in advance. And

901
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: now for the Chargers, a lot of questions. But you know,

902
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: like we were asking in terms of coaching and when

903
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 2: you make your decisions and where they are in the pantheon.

904
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: Is it as simple as hey, Herbert needs another guy?

905
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: Is there more to look at with him?

906
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 6: Man? I think if you're the Charges, what you want

907
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 6: to do is you're gonna take a realistic look and

908
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: that get caught up in the red in those things,

909
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 6: but you have an ideal, a standard that you want

910
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 6: to get to and play to. And any of us

911
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 6: can look at the roster and say, right now, as

912
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 6: president constructed, they're missing some pieces. The fact that they

913
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 6: win eleven and six with that roster was a bit

914
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 6: of a surprise. But we all believe that Harvard would

915
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 6: orchestrate a quick turnaround because he's a culture transformer. Like

916
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 6: what he does is he comes to the locker room,

917
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 6: he changes everything, and if you did a deep dive

918
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 6: on some of the things that he did, he has

919
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 6: kind of wreathed the little life into this franchise. Now

920
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 6: they have to stack on top of it, right. They

921
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 6: need more playmakers on the perimeter. They need the ability

922
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 6: to deliver explosive plays in the passing game. So at

923
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 6: some point they got to figure out that on the perimeter,

924
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 6: whether it's a tight end or wide receiver or whatever.

925
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: They need to continue to flip their roster on defense,

926
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 6: young pass rushers to eventually replace Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack.

927
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 6: But the foundation is there. The offensive line is young, talented,

928
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 6: be there for a minute. Harbaugh is energetic and feisty,

929
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Speaker 6: and he'll continue to challenge Justin Herbert to be at

930
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 6: his best at all times, while supporting and advocating him

931
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 6: at every turn. Whatever he stands in front of a microphone, Yeah,

932
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 6: just to be fun, but he knows where he's at

933
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 6: and he knows how he has to continue to help

934
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 6: this team advance in the midst of a rebuild.

935
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Speaker 2: And certainly the consistent messaging coming out of the locker

936
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Speaker 2: room player to player about Herbert will get Isaac Lohenkrohn's

937
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: thoughts on this as he joins us a little bit

938
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: later on and for what's trending as he's part of

939
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: the broadcast team there, and I'm sure he's got a

940
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: few tweets that he selected from his postgame show that

941
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: are sitting in the offing Bucky. As you know, we

942
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: get some gems there, but it's a division that is

943
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: on the come. When we talk about what Denver has

944
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: and an opportunity today against Buffalo there eight and a

945
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: half point underdogs on the road. A tough task, no

946
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: question about it, but a defense vance. Joseph's rallied around

947
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: and bow knicks despite a run game where oftentimes he

948
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: is the only run game is certainly in the last

949
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: four weeks it's been on his wheels a bit, but

950
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: we know the rookie stats five and seventeen all time

951
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: in road playoff games, oh to five the last decade.

952
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: But for Bo Nixon Company and for Sean Payton, an

953
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: opportunity here against the Buffalo squad that has had its

954
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: struggles defensively. You know, you've seen some breaks in the

955
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: armor a little bit over the year, but an offense

956
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: that scores thirty one points a game, so you know

957
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: the what is it the irresistible force and the immovable

958
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: object or whatever you want to go to there. With

959
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 2: Josh Allen twenty eight and six on the year at

960
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: another twelve rushing touchdowns, it would appear that MVP talk

961
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: is done after the AP votes were released, that Lamar

962
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: Jackson will win his third. But for our and a

963
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: guy who we come into the year saying, well, he

964
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: doesn't really have a lot of the weaponry, much like

965
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: we were talking about with Justin Herbert. Yet they've got a

966
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: big opportunity and big expectations here as Denver comes calling.

967
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, big expectations. And here's the trick when it comes

968
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 6: to Buffalo Bills. Are they built for the regular season?

969
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 6: Are they built for the postseason? Building for the regular season.

970
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 6: They're resting guys, they have those guys run, they work out,

971
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 6: They play well when everything is right. If you are

972
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 6: looking at the team and trying to figure out are

973
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 6: they built to last? That's what you want to see.

974
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 6: How are they constructed to play playoff football? Because playoff

975
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 6: football comes down to having a stellar defense, being able

976
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 6: to control a line of scrimmage where you can run

977
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 6: the ball when you need to and stop it when

978
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 6: you have to, and then being able to create splash

979
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 6: plays on defense, turnovers, tackles for loss, those things, and

980
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 6: then home run plays on offense. Are they built to

981
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 6: do that? And if you're not built to do that,

982
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 6: then you have to make sure that you stay in

983
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 6: your lane and don't get outside your box. Last night,

984
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 6: the part that I would say is probably being if

985
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 6: I'm a Ravens fan, I'm most proud of, I'm most

986
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 6: proud of the Baltimore Ravens staying true to their identity,

987
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 6: not deviating, not trying to throw the ball all over

988
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 6: the yard, lining up with what I would call a

989
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 6: simple Simon game plan. We're running the ball. We can

990
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 6: do it a million different ways, but we're running the

991
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 6: ball because our two best players touch the ball nearly

992
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 6: on every play, Derrick Henry Lamar Jackson, and it works

993
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 6: for them. And when the Ravens stay true to that formula,

994
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 6: they're hard to be And everybody has a formula that

995
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 6: works for them, like the Ravens work last night. Is

996
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 6: can you stay disciplined and stubborn enough to follow down

997
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 6: that path or if you get behind by a little bit,

998
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 6: you begin to deviate from the things that you truly

999
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 6: believe in.

1000
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at the last few games when you

1001
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: go to Lamar Jackson for the the year, was eight

1002
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: or more carries in all but one game, the thirty

1003
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: one to two win over Houston. But he still rushed

1004
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: four times for eighty seven yards of a score in

1005
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: that one, that forty eight yard touchdown run. But in

1006
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: yesterday's win over Pittsburgh fifteen carries.

1007
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot to be said.

1008
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: You know, Josh Allen didn't have huge rushing attempts game

1009
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: to game, but when it became winning time and the

1010
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: calendar flipped to December, and you saw some of those matchups,

1011
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: like say against Kansas City, where all right, it's time

1012
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: to you know, put the cape on or call my

1013
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: own number, much like we saw with Lamar Jackson yesterday.

1014
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: All Right, let's just stay to the identity. Let's not

1015
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: get cute and give them an opportunity. Not that he's

1016
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: been inefficient with the ball, neither he nor Allen for

1017
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: that point this year.

1018
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: But why put things.

1019
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: In harm's way when you're dominating a line of scrimmage?

1020
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, it is so crazy that

1021
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 6: it's as simple as that for the Baltimore Ravens right now.

1022
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: The thing that kind of messes that up is as

1023
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 6: you get deeper into the postseason, it requires a little

1024
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 6: more sure. But it is very similar to Mike when

1025
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 6: when we're playing golf, right and you're playing someone that

1026
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 6: you know you should beat. Your handicap is better. You

1027
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 6: understand the game. They don't know. So all you have

1028
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 6: to do is just I just need to win the day.

1029
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 6: So what do I need to do? You know what,

1030
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 6: Let's put the driver, Let's put the driver away, Let's

1031
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 6: bring the three to three wood out, and let's just

1032
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 6: kind of keep it in play, and as long as

1033
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 6: we keep it in play and don't have any egregious errors,

1034
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 6: we're gonna win. It's Tiger Woods on a Sunday with

1035
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 6: a three shot lead back in the day in his prime,

1036
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 6: it's over. You know, if Tiger had had a lead

1037
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 6: going in, he was going to play safe and he

1038
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 6: wasn't going to give you a chance to creep back in.

1039
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 6: That's what the Baltimore Ravens did and that's what they

1040
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 6: need to continue to do because when you look at

1041
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 6: the way that they can run the ball and the

1042
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 6: way that they're playing defense, they don't have to really

1043
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 6: feature outside themselves. The game will come to them and

1044
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 6: they'll be in it. Just got to see if they

1045
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 6: can stick to the script.

1046
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: At Bucky Brooks where you find them on Twitter, you

1047
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: read them foxsports dot com, NFL dot com, get the

1048
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: links from Bucky's Twitter account at Big Play Football in

1049
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: the Insta world, you find me over at Swollen.

1050
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: Dome and coming up nex.

1051
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: We'll go back into the coaching box for a minute,

1052
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: not from the hiring perspective, but just a we first

1053
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: guessed it on air, but you're a coach, you're a

1054
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: guy that's been around the game a while. I want

1055
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: to know what Sarkesian was thinking in his goal line

1056
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: execution or lack thereof. We'll get that from Bucky As

1057
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 2: we continue here, It's Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Hey,

1058
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports

1059
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: Radio Mike Carmen alongside Bucky Brooks live Fromthetire Act dot

1060
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: Com Studios, ready for another big Wild Card Sunday.

1061
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: Two games already in the books.

1062
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: Texans and the Ravens advance and leaving the Steelers and

1063
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: the Chargers to examine the rosters and everything for the

1064
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: off season, joining.

1065
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: All those other squads. So only a few more games remain.

1066
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna celebrate each one of them to the fullest,

1067
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: and we'll circle back into the college football world in

1068
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: a moment. But football fans keep it locked. Coming up

1069
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 2: thirty five minutes from now, Fox Sports Radio. Every Sunday morning,

1070
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: beginning ten am Eastern, seven o'clock Pacific, it's Countdown to Kickoff,

1071
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,960
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1072
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Speaker 2: better Bill Krackenberger. Have you covered three hours before kickoff?

1073
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1074
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Speaker 2: bet MGM. Right here Fox Sports Radio, the iHeart Radio app.

1075
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: We've got the bills and the Broncos. Get the day

1076
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 2: started later on this morning, early afternoon Eastern time. The

1077
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: guys will have you covered prop bets and parlays, and

1078
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: then looking back at the good, the bad, the ugly

1079
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: of the last few days of playoff action. That's where

1080
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: I want to go next with you, Bucky, as a coach,

1081
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: I know you watch it with a different lens as

1082
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: a scout, as a former player, as a coach and analyst,

1083
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: and going back to the college game, with the opportunity

1084
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: to tie things up at the doorstep a drive by

1085
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: Texas late in that game against Ohio State on a

1086
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: second in goal inside the two, the idea that you

1087
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: would go and make a toss sweep call to Wizner

1088
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: to the short side of the field, stack defenders, top

1089
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: match recruits all and what we've seen Ohio State's defense do.

1090
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: That leads to a seven yard loss and now you're

1091
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 2: at third and eight. Now you're running out a shotgun

1092
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: and it sets up eventually the Sawyer hit scoop and

1093
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: score play. But I saw the call live, you know,

1094
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: as Smith and I are on air here at Fox

1095
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, and look, my hair is starting to thin

1096
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: out a bit. I think I lost a little bit

1097
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: more tearing it out as I watched that play develop,

1098
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: Can you try to read the mind because he says

1099
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: in the post, Hey, if we'd blocked it effectively, like

1100
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: against two against two, that couldn't have worked in practice,

1101
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: let alone thinking you're gonna be able to get that

1102
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: to work against Ohio State.

1103
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 6: Well, I think a couple of things in play, right,

1104
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 6: So they had a few different opportunities down in the

1105
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 6: type red area, So the field is really condensed, right,

1106
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 6: You're talking about less than fifteen yards of space. They

1107
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 6: get down there on a PI call, they try and

1108
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 6: hit an RPO, they get another PI call, So two

1109
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 6: times they try to throw it, they can't get into there.

1110
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 6: They didn't run it right up the good trying to

1111
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 6: go strength on strength in Ohio State. It is like, no,

1112
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 6: that's not happening. So the normal response to that is

1113
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 6: when you're trying to run inside and they're blitzing, you

1114
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 6: try and run like a rocket toss or a sweep

1115
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 6: to get outside. But I'm gonna tell you, man, the

1116
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 6: play that Caleb Downs made to shoot the gap to

1117
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 6: get there, it really changed everything because you go from

1118
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 6: being at the one or two yard line to now

1119
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 6: you backed up at the eight yard line. It changes

1120
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 6: all the play calls and those things. And so I'm

1121
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 6: sure Sark would love to have that back. He would

1122
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 6: love to break it down and say, man, if we

1123
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 6: had just blocked it right or whatever, but you don't

1124
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 6: get that chance, and now you're backed up, you're stuck.

1125
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 6: You got to put the ball in Quinn yours hands.

1126
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 6: And let's be honest on the game. That was the

1127
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 6: game winning play, the game clinching play. Saw Your executes one.

1128
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 6: He has a great get off. Two there's a quick

1129
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 6: little sort of dip maneuver to get up under the

1130
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 6: right tackle, and look, there's nothing Quinn yours could do.

1131
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 6: I mean, guys on this front side, he can feel him,

1132
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 6: but he's trying to keep his eyes down the field

1133
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 6: and so he just makes a great play. Sometimes the

1134
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 6: other guys win. I am sure though Sark would love

1135
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 6: to just look at that call. She'd be like, guys,

1136
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 6: why did I just have a better call on second

1137
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 6: down to set us up for success on third and

1138
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 6: partitionarly fourth down? Yeah, that's unfortunately, it's just you know,

1139
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 6: sometimes the other guy wins.

1140
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sawyer play, I mean, right tackle doesn't even

1141
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: really get out of his stance, and he's by him

1142
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: and up on yours just that fast, and the ball

1143
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: takes i mean the perfect bounce right back up into

1144
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: his arms and off he goes to the race his

1145
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: final forty yards. He's looking around like, is nobody gonna

1146
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: make a play on me? Just a curiosity in that

1147
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: regard because the air was out of the balloon. But

1148
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: you know, just from an evaluation of all, right, strength

1149
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,959
Speaker 2: on strength, I got five guys that are probably gonna

1150
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: play in the league in front of yours, right, I

1151
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: got arch Manning on the side again, not arguing that

1152
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna go completely cute see and trick playish you know,

1153
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: pop pass or whatever it might be. But you know,

1154
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: to try to think you're gonna win on the edge

1155
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: to your point, right, perfect play by the defender to

1156
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: get the seven yard laws versus just a one or two.

1157
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: But you know all of it, you know, guessing, second, guessing,

1158
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 2: blush of you know fourteen would swing there.

1159
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there are a lot of things that

1160
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 6: play right. So like early in the game when they

1161
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 6: ran Archie Manning, Archie ran, he went, he went around

1162
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 6: the corner and he got hammered and put the ball

1163
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 6: on the ground. Now they said it was he he

1164
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 6: was down by contacting those things, But not only did

1165
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 6: it put the ball on the ground, he looked like

1166
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 6: he got up woozy.

1167
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: A little bit.

1168
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 6: You know something.

1169
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: You wonder both guys had added one of those plays, right, yeah, earlier.

1170
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, So then you're like, man, can I can I

1171
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 6: trust the young guy to toade it in a critical situation?

1172
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 6: And normally in those situations you always think, hey, man,

1173
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 6: put that ball in the hands of my best player,

1174
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 6: and let's ride or die with my best player making

1175
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 6: a play. And you know, they ranted off sweep and

1176
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 6: then they eventually put it in yours hands. And it's

1177
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 6: debatable whether he is their best player, but he certainly

1178
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 6: has been more consistent than arch arch Manning had been

1179
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 6: in those moments and looks start stark roll with him.

1180
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 6: It didn't roll, It didn't look the dice didn't roll

1181
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 6: out his way. But I understand why he went through

1182
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 6: those sequences. He just probably wanted better results, better as execution.

1183
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: As they say, they get paid to play the game too,

1184
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: and legitimately we can say that in the college world

1185
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: now too. To that end, we'll do a deep dive

1186
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: on it next Sunday. But Flirt first, Blush is going

1187
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: to take a monster game by Jeremiah Love to drive

1188
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: them a puncher's chance.

1189
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think this game. You know.

1190
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 6: The one thing that Notre Dame has been able to

1191
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 6: do with every team is they've been able to force

1192
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 6: them to play on their terms. And the trick with

1193
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 6: Ohio State is Ohio State is what we call a

1194
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 6: big play team. Right. They're not a team that is

1195
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 6: going to nickel and diamond down the field. They're not

1196
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 6: gonna have fifteen plays at four yards of clip to

1197
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 6: drive the link to the field. What they want to

1198
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 6: do is they want to hit you with a home run,

1199
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 6: play to the running back, to the wide receivers and

1200
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 6: those things. Notre Dame is more of the grinded out,

1201
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 6: slow the game down. We're gonna play half court basketball

1202
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 6: and make you play a game that's in the forties.

1203
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 6: Notre Dame has that ability to do it. The thing

1204
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 6: that they have to do is how they're gonna stop

1205
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 6: Jamaine Smith. Jeremiah Smith. That's the number one thing. You

1206
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 6: cannot allow him to get loose. Texas did a really

1207
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 6: good job limited his touches, didn't give up the big plays,

1208
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 6: and they were able to hang around and stay in

1209
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 6: the game. Notre Dame has to figure out a way

1210
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 6: to do that while staying within their own scheme. They

1211
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 6: like to play a little more man de man than

1212
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 6: some where they continue to do that or whether they

1213
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 6: change it up. The good thing is Notre Dame saw

1214
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 6: Ohio State last year and Ohio State had Marvin Harrison junior,

1215
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 6: and they limit his stuff. I think this would be

1216
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 6: a game that comes down to the end to be

1217
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 6: a fourth quarter afare.

1218
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: We'll see as it plays, but we'll get back into

1219
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: that more in depth next week. Give it a week

1220
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: to go and see if Notre Dame can get a

1221
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: couple of those guys healthy that are on the injury

1222
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: report as well. As we continue here, we'll go back

1223
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 2: into the coaching carousel as related to the NFL six openings,

1224
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: and seemingly one of those might be filled. But as

1225
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: the dance card is filling up, a name pops back

1226
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: up that we theorize, but maybe with.

1227
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: A little more concrete style. As we get into the new.

1228
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: Week, we'll talk about that in a minute, but first

1229
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: let's kick it over to Isaac Low and Gron. Our

1230
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: guy had Isaac Low and Gron as he mixed his

1231
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: wounds following a tough departure by the Chargers.

1232
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 8: Scott Scott, Scotch, I love Scotch.

1233
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 4: Watch you go down down into my belly. Oh hey,

1234
01:03:59,640 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 4: come on?

1235
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: Actually done guard game on Saturday night?

1236
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, so I guess I'll start with raven

1237
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 9: Steelers and then we can cover what we got to cover. Yeah,

1238
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 9: let's go all right, all right, so I'll pretend I'm

1239
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 9: on the East coast here. Derrick Henry one hundred and

1240
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 9: eighty six yards two touchdowns in the Ravens twenty eight

1241
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 9: to fourteen win over the Steelers on Saturday Night. Ravens

1242
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 9: ran for two ninety nine as a team, including eighty

1243
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 9: one by Lamar Jackson either twenty eight to fourteen victory

1244
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 9: passing Jackson sixty to twenty one for one seventy five

1245
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 9: two touchdown passes, no interceptions. The Ravens now on a

1246
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 9: five game winning streak. The Steelers closed the season on

1247
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 9: a five game losing streak.

1248
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 4: Ah Yes.

1249
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 8: Earlier on Saturday, the Houston Texans over the Los Angeles

1250
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 8: Chargers thirty two to twelve. They intercepted Justin Herbert four times.

1251
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 8: He'd been intercepted just three times all season long. Joe

1252
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 8: Mixed of Houston ran for one six at a touchdown.

1253
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 8: Nicocollins seven catches for one hundred and twenty two yards

1254
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 8: at a touchdown. Chargers rookie Lad McConkie nine catches for

1255
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 8: an NFL rookie playoff record one hundred and ninety seven yards,

1256
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 8: including an eighty six yard touchdown reception. It all losing cause.

1257
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 8: Today's action kicks off at one pm Eastern from Buffalo

1258
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 8: as the two seed Bills host the seven seeded Denver Broncos.

1259
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 8: All right, let me have a fellas, questions, comments, whatever

1260
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 8: I can help you with as I try to laugh

1261
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 8: through my tears.

1262
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: You want to go first? Here, Bucky.

1263
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 8: They're lining up and taking turns like the passengers in

1264
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 8: the aisle on the movie Airplane to smack me.

1265
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: Well, it's more he's remotely eyes and say you and me,

1266
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: So I gotta go.

1267
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 8: I know, I just wanted to make an airplane referend

1268
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 8: good man.

1269
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 6: I just wondered, like, how do you feel about it all?

1270
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 6: Like now? Trying to be reflective, right, So I don't

1271
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 6: know what your goals were, what your expectations were to

1272
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 6: start the season, but they teased you. They get you

1273
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 6: to the postseason, you kind of get the matchup that

1274
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 6: you wanted right to play the Texans because they felt

1275
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 6: like the vulnerable team. But now that it's all played out,

1276
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 6: how do you feel about your one of the Jim

1277
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 6: Harboy experience.

1278
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 8: You know, I'm glad you put it that way because

1279
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 8: I think that our guys, our colleagues on the charge

1280
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 8: of radio broadcast, Matt mney Smith and Daniel Jeremiah, were

1281
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 8: able to sort of big picture it very clearly, very

1282
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 8: soon after the game, when I was still, you know,

1283
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 8: throwing things and kicking the wall, which I actually don't recommend,

1284
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 8: but you know, the more I think of it, when

1285
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 8: I thought about the preseason and preseason predictions by people

1286
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 8: who you know, I actually respect, the preseason predictions topped

1287
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 8: out at best at ten and seven. Most of the

1288
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 8: high side was nine and eight. So to go eleven

1289
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 8: and six, and to establish your identity instead of franchise

1290
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 8: record for fewest turnovers and literally have the second fewest

1291
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 8: turnovers in NFL history, and to have the defense go

1292
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 8: from twenty fourth and scoring defense to first, and to

1293
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 8: go from passing defense from thirtieth to seventh. I mean

1294
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 8: that is absolutely significant to have Lad McConkie said, franchise

1295
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 8: rookie receiving.

1296
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 4: Records is significant.

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Speaker 8: But as you know, the problem is, it got washed

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Speaker 8: away with what happened yesterday, and I didn't think that,

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Speaker 8: you know, nationally, Oh yeah, it's going to be a

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Speaker 8: relatively easy win for the Chargers. I thought the Chargers

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Speaker 8: would win on paper, but I thought it would be

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Speaker 8: a brutally difficult game because of the big playability for

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Speaker 8: the Texans defense.

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Speaker 4: And it turned out to be the case.

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Speaker 8: And then some But a couple of things that stood

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Speaker 8: out to me from a Chargers standpoint yesterday. I mentioned

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Speaker 8: Lad McConkie nine catches on fourteen targets. The rest of

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Speaker 8: the receiving core combined five catches on eighteen targets.

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Speaker 4: Can you believe that?

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Speaker 8: And also the bottom line this year for the Chargers,

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Speaker 8: when they run the ball effectively and JK. Dobbins runs

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Speaker 8: the ball effectively, they win. When they don't, they lose.

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Speaker 4: And JK.

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Speaker 8: Dobbins ran the ball extremely effectively on the opening drive

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Speaker 8: first three carries eighteen yards the rest of the game

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Speaker 8: six carries.

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Speaker 4: For a net of eight yards.

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Speaker 8: So it wasn't just justin Herbert, although he'll certainly get

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Speaker 8: a lot of blame. Lowest completion percentage of his career

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Speaker 8: four interceptions. Previous high for interceptions was two.

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Speaker 4: But even so, it was.

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Speaker 8: Totally across the board offense, defense, and even special teams

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Speaker 8: that Texans beat them decisively.

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Speaker 2: No, that's it as early opportunities, right, you talk about

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Speaker 2: the early effectiveness of Dobbins, those first possessions. To have

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Speaker 2: to settle for field goals right, to get that turnover

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01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: right away and not really be able to capitalize goes away,

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Speaker 2: and for Herbert it's unfortunate, but it goes into that

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Speaker 2: fairness like we were talking about last hour bucket, like

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about coaches and whether they should

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Speaker 2: be on the move one way or another, whether it's

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Speaker 2: Tomlin or Shanahan. Herbert, you know, everybody wants to put

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Speaker 2: him in the big boy category and elevate him that

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Speaker 2: here's a spot in a spotlight game, right, which normally

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01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: the Chargers don't get a lot of these. So when

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Speaker 2: you have had the rhetoric fantasy wise or whatever the

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01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: case may be to try to propel them into that spot.

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Speaker 2: And while not all interceptions are created the same as

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: you get away from the game, what's everybody gonna do,

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Speaker 2: They're gonna put those fours up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's unfortunate because I would

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Speaker 6: say there are a few different things that were in

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01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 6: play in terms of the interceptions and what we saw

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Speaker 6: from him in that game. We talked about lab McConkie

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Speaker 6: being the only legitimate threat that you have the perimeter,

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01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 6: so you snuff everybody else out. You let him have

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01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 6: a day, but no one else could get open. Then

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 6: when you look at really you break down the anatomy

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Speaker 6: of those interceptions. Man, two of them went through the

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Speaker 6: hands of intended targets. Right, you know, Justin Herbert doesn't

1351
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 6: have anything. If we want to get nitpicky, we say, hey,

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Speaker 6: you got to put the ball on the right shoulder

1353
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 6: and this and that, etc. But that's sometimes that's just

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01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 6: the way the game goes. It is unfortunate because for

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01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert there's been this conversation and narrative about him

1356
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 6: being the elite, but you don't have anything to show

1357
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 6: for it, right, you don't have postseason wins, You don't

1358
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 6: have a high level of success outside of what they

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,799
Speaker 6: call empty calorie stats. And on this stage where everyone

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 6: could gather around the TV and finally take a look

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01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 6: at the big bad wolf that we've been talking about,

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01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 6: it didn't go the way that we wanted. So now

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01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 6: he has to sit with that for another year until

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01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 6: he can change that, and he won't be able to

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Speaker 6: change it until the postseason. He can't change it with

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Speaker 6: his regular season success.

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Speaker 4: CJ.

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Speaker 8: Stroud now has two playoff wins in two years, and

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Speaker 8: Justin Herbert ish to two and five years. And one

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Speaker 8: other thing to point out, and you alluded to it

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Speaker 8: because I think it played in some of the interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 8: Justin Herbert sacked four times but took nine quarterback hits

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Speaker 8: in the game, and there were also four other times

1375
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Speaker 8: when the Texans hit his arm as he was passing

1376
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 8: and going back a mixture of watching it live and

1377
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 8: kind of scanning through the video of the game. They

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01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 8: did that exclusive or almost exclusively with just a four

1379
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 8: man rush. By my count, they only blitzed him twice

1380
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 8: all day. Yet they were able to get almost overwhelming

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01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 8: pressure with just a four man rush.

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Speaker 2: And that was the impressive thing coming out of it

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01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: to me, Isaac. We talked about it a little last hour,

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01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: Bucky Ui and Andy. Just the offensive line was where

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 2: I thought the Chargers could win the line of scrimmage

1386
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: and give Herbert some time to work, and that was

1387
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: clearly not the case because you needed it again owing

1388
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 2: to you've got Mconkey. Disleey had a pretty nice season

1389
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: but failed at every turn yesterday in including the gaping

1390
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: hole between his hands. It was like you were throwing

1391
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 2: it at a carnival, trying to win a prize through

1392
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: the receiver's hands.

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Speaker 4: And it was That's a great point.

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Speaker 8: It's surprising on both counts because Disley was signed up

1395
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 8: to be their number two tight end and more of

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01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 8: a blocking tight end than a receiving receiving tight end,

1397
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 8: and Hayden Hurst wound up, you know, not filling that role,

1398
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 8: and he winds up will Disley having by far the

1399
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 8: best season of his career in terms of catches and

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Speaker 8: receiving yards.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you go back to the offensive line and

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01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 4: that had been such a.

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01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 8: Strength for this team, and one of their strengths was

1404
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 8: communicating with each other, coordinating the blocking, and that part

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01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 8: of it was stunning. To me because again doing a

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01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 8: cursory look at the video, Yeah, I give credit to

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01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 8: the Texans four man pass rush, but there were multiple

1408
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 8: examples of surprising miscommunication by the Chargers offensive line in

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 8: coordinating their blocking that resulted in those sacks and those pressures.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I'll say this one of the things that

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 6: maybe we didn't talk enough about is the Texans investment

1413
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 6: in their pass rush in the offseason. They had well Nderson, Yeah,

1414
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 6: but daneil Hunter coming over giving them two legitimate threats

1415
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 6: on thataline. They also have guys that they rotate in

1416
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 6: Derrick Burnette and some other guys that are legitimate rushers.

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Speaker 6: That was the thing to be able to rush for

1418
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 6: and drop with seven maximum coverage while still getting the

1419
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 6: benefit of maximum pressure with four. That's the key to

1420
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 6: the game. And so when Jim Harbaugh talks about this

1421
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,919
Speaker 6: team is really they go by the way the offensive

1422
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 6: line goes because the offensive line gap whooped at the

1423
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 6: Lina Scrimmers that ultimately gave them no chance to win

1424
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 6: in this game.

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Speaker 2: Send your condolences at Isaac loewen Kron in the Twitter verse.

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Speaker 2: Find me over at Swollen Dome. Find Bucky at Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: As we continue, we'll go back into the coaching search.

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01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: Six teams, one potentially done. But who's going to fill

1429
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: those other seats? We'll try to prognosticate here next on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday,

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01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports A Radio, Mike Carbon alongside Bucky Brooks. Thanks

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01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: for being with us, being part of the extended family.

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01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 2: Thanks to Chris Burfett, our technical producer. Thanks to Share

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01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: executive producer of course, Isaac over on the updates at

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01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 2: Isaac loewen Kron where you find him at Chris Burffett

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 2: prior to Detroit as they get ready for their playoff

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01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: game a.

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01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,799
Speaker 1: Week from today.

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01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 2: But we finish up here Bucky as we roll on

1440
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 2: looking at the coaching trees that are trying to be

1441
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 2: planted here and all the interviews, and I kind of

1442
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: chuckle when I see the laundry list for the Bears

1443
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 2: and Jets in particularly seemingly anybody that has ever coached

1444
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 2: a game or may want to coach a game is

1445
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: getting a look. See have you talked to either of

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01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: these teams yet?

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01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 6: I have not, but you are right, is a very

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01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 6: extensive and exhaustive process that those teams are going through.

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 6: And I understand because a lot of it is a

1450
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,440
Speaker 6: fact finding mission. Right. It's not only about like interviewing

1451
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 6: the person for the job. It's about knowing how other

1452
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 6: teams conduct their business, like how do you run practices,

1453
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 6: what are you thinking about? What is the culture like

1454
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 6: within the walls? All those things. So you take all

1455
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 6: of those things and you put them in a notebook,

1456
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 6: and when you do start making decisions, you kind of

1457
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 6: share that stuff. How can we be better as an organization?

1458
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 6: Those things? But at some point we need to trim

1459
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 6: the fat and we need to get to it. And

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01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 6: so hopefully over the next few days, when we talk

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01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 6: about some of these teams, the Bears and the Jets

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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 6: in particular, man cut through the chase. Let's get to it.

1463
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 6: Let's see who is going to be Because the team

1464
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 6: that is quick the quickest to hire their head coach,

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01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 6: they have the opportunity to get the best coaching staff

1466
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 6: because all of the assistant coaches that are out there

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01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 6: that have been dismissed, they're just waiting for opportunities and

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01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 6: they're not going to turn down the first thing smoking

1469
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 6: that comes across their desks because no one wants to

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01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 6: be caught without a job. That's why you want to

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01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 6: be on the front end of the hiring cycle, not

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Speaker 6: the back end, so you can get the assistant coaches

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Speaker 6: in place.

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Speaker 2: The old run of musical chairs, no question about it,

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: and it begs the questions right on a Rumoh, I

1476
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 2: know our guy, Andy Furman's ears perk up. He'll be

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01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: a hot commodity. Some reports already that New England's deep

1478
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 2: into contract talks with Vrabel, and maybe McDaniels comes back

1479
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 2: into the fold in that process.

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Speaker 6: You know, the thing about the Rabel situation is interesting

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01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,560
Speaker 6: because I would wonder. I think Rabel certainly had to

1482
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 6: play with Jeri Mayo, right, they had to play together, right,

1483
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 6: So it's not only are you stepping in the shoes

1484
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 6: of a legend and Bill Belichick, but you basically have

1485
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 6: just curbed your teammate to take that job. It's just

1486
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,879
Speaker 6: such a weird dynamic when you just think about everything

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 6: that's going on with the Patriots and for all of

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 6: the stuff that they hated with Belichick, they're basically getting

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01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 6: that program all over again, right with just a different leader.

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01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 6: It's going to be the same program. Though in terms

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01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 6: of like how they go about it, it's just kind

1492
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 6: of funny if you're gonna do all that one Niki

1493
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,520
Speaker 6: Belichick the originator.

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01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Vrabel and Mayo would have played together in

1495
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, that was Mayo's rookie year in

1496
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: the NFL, and then Rabel went to Kansas City for

1497
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: his final two years. But yeah, certainly when you talk

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01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: about the style stylistically much the same. To that point,

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 2: he's surprised, you know, given some of the reports about

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Speaker 2: maybe Brady reaching out or other teams that there wasn't

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Speaker 2: more Belichick, even though he's started there and building in

1502
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 2: North Carolina. Man, he did leave the Jets with a

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01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: note on a napkin.

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Speaker 1: Aft for a day.

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 6: No, I'm not surprised because I felt like they read

1506
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 6: the tea leaves before they made the move to go

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01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 6: to North Carolina. Okay, like they looked and look, it's

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 6: probably not gonna happen for you. So if you're gonna

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01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 6: get a job, you better take this one because there

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01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 6: may not be one for you, and that's why they

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Speaker 6: took the deal. So I just felt like it was

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Speaker 6: all speculation, a lot of talk. But I can't I

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Speaker 6: can't see him leaving Coles to go right back to

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Speaker 6: the pros when he wasn't a sought after prospect.

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Speaker 2: Pearson telasco let go in Vegas. Is it Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 2: job or is there something to the Dion speculation there

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Speaker 2: as well?

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Speaker 6: I can't imagine Dion being there. Like, I understand, like

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Speaker 6: and I love my kids, man, but you can't coach

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Speaker 6: your kids forever and ever. No. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, at some point, you gotta you gotta let

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Speaker 6: it move on. So yeah, I mean I think they're

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Speaker 6: they just wanted to clear a deck so they could

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Speaker 6: do a full reset. But this is a hard one man.

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Speaker 6: I can't imagine unless Ben Johnson is really in play

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Speaker 6: at hard reset.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's curious, right.

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Speaker 2: And then Jacksonville, we had that awkward zoom call with

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Speaker 2: Sead Cohn and Trent Balke talking about yeah, he's here,

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Speaker 2: but hey, if someone can convince me as the world

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Speaker 2: turns Bucky at Bucky Brooks, thanks for the conversation.

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