1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Hi everyone walk on The Mother Knows Death. Let's get 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: into this week's six shocking stories. 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: All right, So our first one's out of South Africa. 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: I would advise anybody that's eating right now to either 6 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: pause and listen to this later or just go into 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: it a little hesitant. So this woman went to this 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: local shop. She bought a loaf of whole wheat bread. 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: So she said, she ate about half of it. Everything 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: seemed fine. That one morning she went to go take 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: it out to make some toast and noticed, you know, 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: something was really unusual about it. Yeah, and when she 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: further examined the slices of bread, she saw full cross 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: sections of a rat that was in bed in the bread. 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: So this rat was baked into the bread, the full 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: body of the rat. So when you're looking at the loaf, 17 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: you just see, you know, it was sliced with an 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: industrial slicer, so you just see it's like organs, slice 19 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: perfectly in half, and its hair baked into the top 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: of the loaf. And to think that she ate most 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: of that loaf of bread and didn't see that for 22 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: a while it is so disgusting. 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: It is. It really is like when I look at it, 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: it just looks like work like it that's exactly what 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: we would do with anything. Is just like it looks 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: like when you put a piece of colon through the 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: processor and you do histology on it and make microscope slides. 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: It's like kind of the same theory. It's just so 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: disturbing looking. You could see all of the anatomy slices 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: of the GI system. In one slice, you see hair, 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: in one slice, you could see bone. It's so gross, Like, 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: it's seriously as gross. 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: I was eating breakfast while I was writing notes for 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: this episode and had to stop for a minute because 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: the pictures are so Yes, there are pictures, and they 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: are so disgusting. She said. She sent the pictures to 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: her friend and was like, what the fuck, and they 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: were like, that's obviously a rat. She was totally in 39 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: denial about it because. 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: She just couldn't believe it. There's absolutely no doubt that 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: that's what it is. It can't be like, oh, maybe 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: it was I don't know, some burnt thing from the 43 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: machine or something like. No, it's like a full on 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: anatomy lesson. It's so disturbing. 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: Not only that the top of it is you know, 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: I imagine this loaf pan and batter, and how this 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: rat is just laying perfectly in the batter on the 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: top gets baked, and its hair like it's fur, is 49 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: just on the top of the loaf. 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: It is so disgusting. What a terrible life for the rat. 51 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: So she went to the store where she bought it 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: from a complaint and they're like, this isn't our problem. 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to contact the manufacturer of the bread, 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: which was Pepsi Co. Weirdly enough, I guess they owned 55 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: whatever brand made this bread. So you know, they said 56 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: they were aware of it, it was an isolated incident 57 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: and they were doing an investigation. Can you imagine, you 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: know those calls you get from Wegman sometimes saying there's 59 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: a recall and something you bought. Can you imagine finding 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: out that your recall was because rat was baked in 61 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: your batch of bread, and you already. 62 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: I love that The company said that the bread did 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: not quote meet their stringent standards. You're like, oh, yeah, 64 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: you think. 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: I don't think that has anything to do with standards. 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: I would just hope you don't bake rodents or your 67 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: facility is clean. 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so gross, like the wet hair 69 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: and everything. Then did you see. 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: This story later in the article about the guy who 71 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: got a wrap from a local bakery. I think it 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: was in Australia and as he was biting into it, 73 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: he noticed something was really chewy, and then he opened 74 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: it up and the dead rat was also in the rap. 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: I think that that might be one of these two 76 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: situations could be what finally causes me to lose weight 77 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: and maintain a good weight at all times. I just 78 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to eat the same it just or 79 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: at least out ever. 80 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: No, I mean that guy in that case said that 81 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: he hasn't been able to fully enjoy a meal since 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 2: I would imagine you don't eat anything unless you could 83 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: see all the parts of it. Well, this next story 84 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: too is similar, right, Yeah, So this one's from twenty eighteen. 85 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: But this couple in Indianapolis. They had gone to Little 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: Caesars and picked up a pizza. So they're driving away 87 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: and the girlfriend opens the box of pizza and is 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: looking at it and notice these little like black specks 89 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: on the pizza. And as she lifts up the bottom 90 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: of the crust, she realized that mouse shit is baked 91 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: into the pizza. I don't know how she noticed that, 92 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: because when you look at the slice of it, it's 93 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: like all at the bottom and it's definitely mouse poop, 94 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: Like there's no doubt, Oh that's what it is. It 95 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: looks like little black seeds embedded in the bottom of 96 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: the cross. But when do you ever look at the 97 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: bottom them of the pizza. Maybe some of it was 98 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: in the top of the crust and then she just 99 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: flipped it upon further inspection. I think if I just 100 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: saw a little bit of it, I would have my 101 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: mind just had to be like, oh, that must be 102 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: burnt little bits from the other's right, I would think 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: too exactly, it was one hundred percent mouthshit. There's nothing 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: else that could be, especially when you look at the 105 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: pictures of this. So they go back to the Little 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: Caesars and they're like, what the fuck, where did all 107 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: this mouse poop come from? They had no idea where 108 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: it came from, so they called the police in the 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: health department. They immediately got shut down and got their 110 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: license suspended, and the health department was saying that they 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: had seven violations the year before for wrote it related activities. 112 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: So this is so gross. I just heard that they closed. 113 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: Down a five blow in Center City because there were 114 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: rats that were eating through the bags of food there 115 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: or something, that they closed it down for a couple 116 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: of days. But when I just went by it the 117 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: other day, it looked like it was open. 118 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: This little Caesars did reopen afterwards, and I looked up. 119 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: I looked it up and it's still open today, so 120 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: it was only a temporary suspension of the license. 121 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: But oh, it's so gross. 122 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: It is gross, And I mean, I think I've said 123 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: this on another episode, like it's just ignorant to not 124 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: understand that a majority of restaurants are going to have 125 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: issues with attracting mice and stuff. But it's about how 126 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: the restaurant is taking care of it and being proactive 127 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: about cleaning. And you definitely can't bake a rat into 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 2: a loaf of bread. You certainly can't make an entire 129 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: pizza and have that much mouthshit baked in the one pie. 130 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: So imagine every other pizza that got picked up that day. 131 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: Could you imagine how many things happened that we never 132 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: that actually get caught, like like a mouse or a 133 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: rat getting baked into bread. But the company, like, you know, 134 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: the people that are actually checking the stuff see it 135 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my god, thank god that didn't 136 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: get out to the public. Like there's probably people that 137 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: work in factories that are like, you have no idea, 138 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: you know what we catch because they're there's like QA 139 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: and QC stuff, like they're supposed to be checking to 140 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: make sure things like that don't happen. And I'm sure 141 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: things get caught all the time, you know. 142 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: And not everything makes the news. I mean, I'm sure 143 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: things of this level are happening every day in parts 144 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: of the world, you know, but not everything's making the 145 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: news like this. The rat thing, I could see. I 146 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: could live in a world where I understand that mouse 147 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: poop is probably regularly entering food and people aren't aware 148 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: of it, but the rat thing is totally unacceptable. 149 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine that. I don't want to ever 150 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: have anything barn in my food. I've heard of like 151 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: band aids, like, uh, it's so it's so nasty, you know. 152 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: It's really common to pop up in foods is parts 153 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: of gloves because when people are wearing gloves to do 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: food preps. Sometimes they'll like cut themselves or cut pieces 155 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: of the glove or something, and those often end up 156 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: in dips or like dressings stuff like that. 157 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: So that's pretty discuss right. This is gross, all right. 158 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: This twenty nine year old male presented to the emergency 159 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: room with stomach pain, rapid heartbeat, rapid breathing. So upon exam, 160 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: doctors discovered something incredibly unusual. And I'm sure if you've 161 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: been listening to us for a while, you could probably 162 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: see where this one's going. 163 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: So apparently this guy was high on GHB, which is 164 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: gamma hydroxy butchuric acid, which is also known as the 165 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: date rape drug. So it also it gives you a 166 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: euphoric feeling but also amnesia, so you don't remember if 167 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you're having sex or doing anything that night. And him 168 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: and his boyfriend apparently were taking this drug and high, 169 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: and they decided that it would be a good idea 170 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: to stick fifteen hard boiled eggs up his ass off 171 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: no shell, no shell, They were out of the shell. 172 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: So I do imagine because of how they moved, they 173 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: probably went up pretty easy. So they just kept sticking 174 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: them up there. But do they disintegrate up there, Like, 175 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: how did they come out? 176 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: No, they they didn't. What happened was they went up 177 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: there and they caused a perforation. That's why he was 178 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: having extreme abdominal pain. So they pushed them in to 179 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: the point where the rectal wall ruptured and he was 180 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: having poop inside of his rectum and colon leaking into 181 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: his abdominal cavity. And they were concerned that he was 182 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: having stepsis actually or a systemic infection because of the 183 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: poop leaking inside of his body, so they had to 184 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: do emergency surgery. They said that they took the eggs out, 185 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: they cleaned it up as best as they could, because 186 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: think like it's like legit probably like an egg salad 187 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: at that point, Like you're like if you push one 188 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: a soft boiled egg, right, and you're just shoving them 189 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: up a hole, like eventually they're all going to start 190 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: breaking and like that real interesting for the doctors to 191 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: see that. 192 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then after this he got admitted to the ICU. 193 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: Can you imagine explaining to people in your life, like, oh, 194 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: why were you in the ICU because they stuffed all 195 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: these eggs up my butt? 196 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, So I don't know like if they were 197 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: just doing it, because it's sometimes it's like an ecstasy 198 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: type thing. Like maybe I don't know what they were thinking. 199 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm also I mean, he seemed to know that this 200 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: happened to him, because like we were saying that he 201 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: was high on this drug that could cause amnesia. 202 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: You're like, are you sure you like agreed to this. 203 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't seem like a great idea, but 204 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: I guess when you're on drugs, you're not making the 205 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: best decisions. 206 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you just said it was a date rape drug, 207 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, so he willingly took this or what happened here? 208 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: Because I mean people do. I don't know why why 209 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: you would want to do it and not remember it, 210 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: but maybe I don't know, Like people like all sorts 211 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: of things like romance bookstores and weird shit. 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: By the way, the people are agreeing with you so far, 213 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: which I can't believe. Really wait wait, I need I 214 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: need to hear about this. Yeah, we have a couple 215 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: of comments so far, people saying that they do think 216 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: it is weird and they would never do something like that. 217 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, thank you, and and like people aren't 218 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: just agreeing with me to agree with me because they 219 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: love disagreeing with me. Actually, so come on, like it's 220 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: it's true. It's like, it's really like the weirdest shit. 221 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm thry, I get okay, most people I know read them, 222 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: so I find it surprising that most people are agreeing 223 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: with you so far. 224 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: All your friends are losers to what do you want 225 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: to say? Thanks? This episode is brought to you by 226 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: the Grossroom. 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He went 236 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: to the emergency room with abdominal pain and rectal bleeding. 237 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: But this is not like our friend from the story before, 238 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: where we know, you know, people are staking things up 239 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: their butt and causing these problems themselves. So he had 240 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: said earlier in the day he had similar pain, but 241 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: he had a non bloody stool, but upon exam everything 242 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: looked normal. So what's the deal with this? 243 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: So if you ever go to the emergency room and 244 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: you're saying that you're bleeding when you're going to the bathroom, 245 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: bright red blood, that's like very alarming. It's called him 246 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: at a cheesia, and it's it's something of concern because 247 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: you could have a bleeding hemorrhoids, or you could have 248 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: a tumor or something, so it's it. Or you could have, 249 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: especially in a younger person, like ulcerat of collators or 250 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: something like that. So they just want to make sure 251 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: that not only do you not have this underlying disease process, 252 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: but are you are you anemic? Are you losing too 253 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: much blood? So they do they take blood work, and 254 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: they do they look for all sorts of different things, 255 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: but they look for anemia, bleeding, infection, all of that, 256 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: and all of his blood work was fine. So what 257 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: was it then? What caused him to have this episode 258 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: of like shitting bright red blood and abdominal pain and 259 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So they say, well, and this is 260 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: a thing that a lot of people don't understand with 261 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: the emergency room is like they kind of even if 262 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: you do have an underlying health thing, they kind of 263 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: don't really care. They just want to make sure that 264 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: you're stable and send you home because that's their job, 265 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: just to make sure you're not going to die or 266 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: become seriously ill. And so they were like, you see him, fine, 267 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: now your blood works fine, So why don't you follow 268 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: up tomorrow with a GI doctor. So the guy goes 269 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: to a G doctor and he so happened to take 270 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: a picture of the poop and shows the doctor this picture, 271 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: which we actually have the picture of, right, And the 272 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: doctor's like, a very you know, a very well in 273 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: tuned GI doctor will always know, like, God, what did 274 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: you eat? Tell me what you ate? Right, Like it's 275 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: just like you know, they're they're used to this, right. 276 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: So the guy says, well, before that happened, I ate 277 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: in a whole, entire, extra large bag of Cheetos. Where 278 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: were they flaming hot geat blaming hot cheetos? Right, So 279 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: then the doctor was probably like, all right, bye, this 280 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: is your problem. Right. So so yeah, and that turns 281 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: out what happens so not only so you're having not 282 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: only just eating a large volume of stuff. But it's 283 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: also spicy, so that could account for the abdominal pain. 284 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: But it has maltodextrine in it, which is like you know, 285 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: we always say that if you have a lot of 286 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: that artificial sugar stuff like that, that it could give 287 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: you diarrhea, Like if you eat a lot of sugar 288 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: free candies or anything like that, you really shouldn't eat 289 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: anything in a large volume, even the sugar free, the 290 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: coffee syrup, any of it. It seriously acts like a 291 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: laxative and it gives you like these extreme abdominal pant cramps, 292 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: and it could give you diarrhea too. So that powder 293 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: that they put on top of the cheetos to give 294 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: it that fiery flavor has that stuff in it, so 295 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: if you have a handful, like you're supposed to a 296 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: normal serving size, you might not notice it. It also has 297 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: MSG in it, which can also cause those types of 298 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: symptoms and people if they're sensitive to it. But when 299 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: you eat twenty servings of it at one time, that's 300 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. So that's what gave them the diarrhea. 301 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: And then the also eating that much of it gave 302 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: the food coloring caused it to look like it was blood. 303 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: But this this gi doctor that is just used to 304 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: seeing bloody stool for a living, was like, yeah, that 305 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: looks a little bit too orange to me, Like you 306 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: this is food dye, right, Yeah, it's kind of it's 307 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of hilarious, honestly, Like it's good 308 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: that it ended up being nothing. And this happens. This 309 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: has happened to me where I went to the bathroom 310 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: and ped and my peat is red right, and I'm like, 311 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, why do I have hematoria? I'm bleed. 312 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm bleeding from you know, from my bladder or something. 313 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: And then I sit there and think about it for 314 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: a second, and then I'm like, okay, yeah, I had 315 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: beach yesterday or something like. Because beats caused your urine 316 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: to turn red. It's it's called beataturia. Actually, it's like 317 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: a thing. But there's that moment where it scares the 318 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: shit out of you when you look in your toilet 319 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, I just peede blood, 320 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Like something terrible is wrong right now. So this, the 321 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: food coloring thing is is that's why when you get 322 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: a colonoscopy and stuff, they tell you not to have 323 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: like jello or anything, because the red die in the 324 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: jello could make it look like blood when it's not 325 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: really blood. You know. 326 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: I think this happens a lot. I don't think people 327 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: are used to what food dye I could do. I 328 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: remember one year I made a Star Wars cake for 329 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: one of my friends that had a lot of black 330 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: food dye in it, and a couple of days later, 331 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: my friend's girlfriend was like, oh my god, my brother 332 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: was freaking out because his shit was black and he 333 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: didn't know what happened. And then we realized the next 334 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: day it was from the cake. It hasn't happened to 335 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: all of us, yeah, exactly. 336 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: But that's the worst too, because you don't really think 337 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: about it. It's I mean, this guy got diarrhea, you know, 338 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: not too long after. I mean obviously it had to 339 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: travel through his whole gi track, and sometimes you just 340 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: forget about it, you know. And that happened to Lilian once. 341 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: I made green cupcakes for her at school because her 342 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: birthdays on Saint Patrick's Day. They I put like a 343 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: whole container of green in to make them like extra green, 344 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: and you know, the kids, Lilian came home and was like, 345 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: oh my got my poop's green. And I'm like, okay, whatever, 346 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: and I look at it and I was like, oh shit, 347 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: that's like really green. It's like like Plato green poop, 348 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: you know. But what I was talking to one of 349 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: the moms later who didn't realize that her kid had 350 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: one of these cupcakes at school during the day, you know, 351 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: and she was just like, oh my god, I was 352 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: so scared. I called the doctor. I felt so bad. 353 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: And then and then they were like, oh, it's probably 354 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 1: some kind of food dye, and then they realized that. 355 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: But I thought I thought it was hilarious, Like imagine 356 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: not even knowing that your kid ate something like that 357 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: and just being like, why is there poop this color? 358 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: I mean, this just happened to me recently because one 359 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: of my favorite cereals ever is like Captain crunched the 360 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: all berries one. So of course she's like, goes so terrible, 361 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: like a total cobo, and I ate the entire box 362 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 2: of like three days and we were away, I'm like, 363 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: why is my poop such a weird color? I realized 364 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: it was because I ate like this whole box of 365 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: like red and blue, weird colored cereal. Well, it's it's 366 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: you know what though your poop color, it's it can 367 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: tell you a lot about the state of your health. 368 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: So it's something like that you should look at and 369 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: definitely you should be alarmed if you see that you 370 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 2: have blood, if you had blood or you thought you 371 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: had blood. Like he did the right thing, especially with 372 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: the pain and everything like it just like luckily it 373 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 2: turned out to be nothing. I just think it's it's funny. 374 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: Like at the er, they're like, I don't know, you 375 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: seem fine to me, Like do you want to tell 376 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: the story about pop pop having kind of the office? Oh, 377 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: this is actually all right, this is a good story. 378 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: So all all good stories involved my dad. So he's, 379 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: like we were talking about in a previous episode, how 380 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: he's kind of like anti going to the hospital and 381 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 2: getting something checked out if he's having an issue. And 382 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 2: so one day my mom, my mom comes home and 383 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: he had come home from work early. This is a 384 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: man that, like, I don't know that he's ever called 385 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: out a day sick in his life. 386 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: Okay, so he's a mechanic. He was a mecanic. He 387 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: worked twelve hour days, it's six days a week, and 388 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: my mom comes home and he's like, he's like, I 389 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: came home from work, I took a half day, I'm tired, 390 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: and my mom like so automatically all of us are like, 391 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: he's dying because something is terribly wrong, right. So then 392 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: she's like, are you sure you're okay? He's like, yeah, 393 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: I just feel really tired, okay. So he goes to 394 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: the bathroom and he's like, I don't know, I kind 395 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: of want you to look at my poop because it's 396 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: it's a little red. I know that we had these 397 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: Chinese spare ribs last night and it's probably from that, 398 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: but just take a look at it, right. So my 399 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: mom's like, okay. So she goes in the bathroom and 400 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: she says she looks in the toilet and it looks 401 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: like someone poured an entire bucket of blood in the toilet, 402 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: like it was filled up with like pure thick blood. 403 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: So she takes them to the hospital. He didn't want 404 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: to go. She takes him to the hospital. He's like 405 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: severely anemic. His hemoglobin was five for a d It's 406 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be like twelve, okay, right, or thirteen, like 407 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: a higher number, definitely higher. Number five is borderline, like 408 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: you need a transfusion. It's that low, right, So that 409 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: explains why he was so tired, and he or he 410 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: had like hemorrhoids that were bleeding or something, or diverticulators 411 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: or so, I don't know what he had. I think 412 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: he had both. Whatever. He didn't even need to really 413 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: get treatment on it, like it stopped and that was 414 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: the end of it kind of thing. But he just 415 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: was almost blew that off, which is amazing. Yeah, total 416 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: opposite of this story. 417 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: At least the person in the story was proactive and 418 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: got it checked out and it did end up being food, 419 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: whereas pop Up's like it must have been the ribs. 420 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. We're just like, yeah, 421 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: like that would that would make it look like that dad? So, 422 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: oh my god. 423 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: All right, This next story is about this guy who 424 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: was born with this rare tumor in his eyeball. So 425 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: as he got older, the tumor continued to grow and 426 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: says and even weirder, it started to grow some hairs. 427 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: So this is a really rare I've never seen one 428 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: of these in real life, but the pictures of them 429 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: are so disturbing because it looks like this little soft 430 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: yellow nodule that's right on someone's eyeball and like Marie 431 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: A said, it could grow hair. So they're benign tumors. 432 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: They're called limbal dermoid tumors. They're benign, which means they're 433 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: not cancer But like we talk about all the time, 434 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: just because it's not cancerous doesn't mean that it's not 435 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: going to be hell for you. I mean, imagine having 436 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: a nodule on your eyeball and every time you blink 437 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: it like rubbing your eyelid and stuff like that. So 438 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: especially if there was like little hairs on the end 439 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: of it. Plus cosmetically it looks a little awkward and 440 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: they could actually change the shape of your eyeball and 441 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: give you an astigmatism and all these things. So they 442 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: they obviously it's your eye and they don't want to 443 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: mess around with it unless they have to. But they'll 444 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: do surgery on it if it gets that bad. But 445 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: it's it's rare at least. It's just really the picture 446 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: of it's just kind of awkward looking, you know, I 447 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: just imagine it's so uncomfortable. I know, eye things are 448 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: the worst. 449 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: Really, do you just trim the little hairsuse but you're 450 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: like coming out of this center of the eyeball, but 451 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 2: you're born with this mass. 452 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like a cystic tumor, So 453 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: I suppose you're used to it if it's there, you know, 454 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: it's I don't know how, but it would drive me 455 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: absolutely crazy just to see it. I can't imagine seeing 456 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: someone in real life that has one too. It's pretty interesting. 457 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: But they're seen with in syndrome. So sometimes certain tumors 458 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: could be seen if you have a certain kind of syndrome. 459 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: So if that particular syndrome runs in your family, then 460 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: these eye lesions can run in your family too, But 461 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: never seen one in real life. 462 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap up with one of the most 463 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 2: disturbing cases we've ever covered. So in two thousand and 464 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: nine in Russia, all these parents have deceased children were 465 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: visiting their graves only to realize the graves have been desecrated. 466 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: For about two years, police couldn't figure out who was 467 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: doing it until someone reported a man who was defacing 468 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: the graves of deceased Muslim people. So they arrest this 469 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: guy named Anatole Moskvin and when they went to search 470 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 2: his apartment, they found something even more horrific than they 471 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: could have even imagined. 472 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: I can't even describe this case. This is the craziest 473 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: true crime story probably of all time that an actual 474 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: He didn't kill anybody this guy, so let's get that straight, 475 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: but probably one of the most disturbing things. So when 476 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: they went to his house, they found all of these 477 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: dolls around the house that were posed in different outfits 478 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: all around. But they weren't dolls. They were actually dead, 479 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: mummified children that he had dug up out of the 480 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: graves and was dressing them up and like playing house 481 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: with these dolls. 482 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was like putting music boxes in them 483 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: so when they would be like touched or moved, they 484 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: would make noise. And some of them even had little 485 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: pieces of their grain stone with their name inside of 486 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: their bodies. And it was just so disturbing. They're all 487 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: over this guy's apartment and you must think, like, oh, 488 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: nobody must have known he was doing this, But he 489 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: lived with his parents, so people were seeing these. 490 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: Dolls, yeah, and his parents. The whole entire thing is 491 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: just so I mean, this guy's this guy's mentally ill, 492 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: so you could see with him. The more disturbing part 493 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: is that there were that his parents are not mentally ill, 494 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: and they just said, like, oh, we knew about the dolls, 495 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: but we just thought, you know, he like he sewed 496 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: buttons in their eyes and would watch TV and cartoons 497 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: with them and like took care of them as if 498 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: they were live children. And the parents didn't think that 499 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: that was weird that he had dolls. He was a 500 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: grown man doing that. Well, they used to leave him 501 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: for months at a time and go to their vacation house, 502 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: So I mean, that's that. And then also the neighbors 503 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: said that it smelled terrible in there, so obviously you 504 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: have dead bodies in your house. Yeah, So I don't 505 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: really know what to say. He had. He was very 506 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if Maria mentioned this, but he was 507 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: a very intelligent man. 508 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: Very highly regarded scholar. He spoke what thirteen languages, thirteen languages. 509 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 2: He had sixty thousand books in his possession on death 510 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: and funerals, cremation, all that stuff. So he knew when 511 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: he removed these bodies from the grave, he knew how 512 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: to naturally mummify them. 513 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: Were not even really natural, but he tried to accelerate it. 514 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: By putting them in a certain environment, and he was 515 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: putting chemicals on them of baking soda and salt to 516 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: dry out their skin, to make the environment so bacteria 517 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: couldn't grow to cause the mummification. He would store the 518 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: bodies in a cold place until they were completely mummified, 519 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: and then he would bring them back to his house 520 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: once they were mummified. And oddly enough, of a mummified 521 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: person doesn't may not smell. It would definitely not smell 522 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: as bad as a person that was decomposing out in 523 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: nature and had bacterial growth, because that would just smell worse. 524 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: But there would definitely be a smell to it. So 525 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: that's what people weren't they saying it smelled like an 526 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: old basement or something. Yeah, it just smell like musty 527 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: or like mustye. Yeah, it had like a weird smell 528 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: that the neighbors would say. And he, yeah, he would 529 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: bring them back. And these dolls are so disturbing looking. 530 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: Sometimes he put wax and makeup on their faces. He 531 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: would dress them in like little girls clothes and and 532 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: like hung out with them and talk to them, had 533 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: relationships with them. But nothing out of all the investigation 534 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: and stuff it doesn't appear that there was anything sexual. 535 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: There was no inappropriateness. Even one of the fathers of 536 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: one of these victims said that, which was weird too, 537 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: said that he almost wasn't even mad about it because 538 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: he was treating his daughter better than he treated his 539 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: daughter when she was alive. 540 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that. I mean, as disturbing as his cases, 541 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: he didn't kill any of them, so they originally could 542 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: only charge him with desecrating the graves, and then he 543 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: was eventually found unfit for trial, so he was put 544 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: in a psychiatric hospital or facility to live there. And 545 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: I guess the latest update was from twenty twenty two 546 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: where he's been trying to get out and some of 547 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: the doctors don't think there's any medical reasons to continue 548 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: holding him. But obviously the parents of these children don't 549 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: want him to ever get out. And I don't think 550 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: somebody that did this to twenty nine girls is going 551 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: to get out and he try to do something like 552 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 2: this again. Hasn't he said that he's going to do 553 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: it again. He so this is the thing, like he's schizophrenic. 554 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: He's been diagnosed with schizophrenia and he's having with paranoia, 555 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: and he's hallucinating and he's thinking that he really believes 556 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: and he's having these delusions. He really believes that he's 557 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: taking these children out of the grave to give them 558 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: a better life. And he believes he's giving them a 559 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: better life. And like he believes that that because he's schizophrenic. Right, 560 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: So I don't know if once you treat a person 561 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: with that, like he shouldn't in theory, be having those 562 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: things anymore if his schizophrenia is being treated. But I 563 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: don't really know how that works because this happens in 564 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: so many cases all over the place. Well, another concerning 565 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: component of this is that so he basically they think 566 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: he's been a virgin his whole life. Right, So there 567 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: was no sexual component to this. But this twenty five 568 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: year old woman had been following his legal proceedings and 569 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: the last we heard in twenty twenty two, he was 570 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: possibly going to marry this woman. So let's say if 571 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: he does get out or maybe they're in communic constant communication, 572 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: what if she starts doing this too or helping him 573 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: do it. There's always a woman that wants to marry 574 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,239 Speaker 2: some dude in jail. Yeah, Like it's it's kind of 575 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: it's kind of outrageous how many stories we talk about 576 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: all the time with these women that are just like 577 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: I have to do an external example on this. There's 578 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: just too many stories. 579 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: I just wish I could. I wish we could interview 580 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: someone that actually, like dated someone in jail, like a 581 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: higher profile person or somebody that did something really crazy, 582 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: and see, like what they were thinking when they were 583 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: dating that person. I'm just I don't know, curious. I 584 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: want to be on someone's radar like that sounds like 585 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: a good romance novel. 586 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't think so, But now you're an expert on 587 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: the romance novels all of a sudden, All right, Well, 588 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: thank you guys so much. 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