1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Hey guys, I am back with Katie Bigger and Kaylin 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Bell and we are going to be breaking down some 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: of these headlines that have come out about Taylor Friky 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Paul in the whole situation over the past few days. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Taylor Frinky Paul defends her social media activity after the Bachelorette. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: This is a very this is a very strange thing. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: The day after the cancelation, I saw her commenting under 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of Instagram reels. Even though you know, 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: we would have thought that her world just blowed up. 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: I would have been like rolled up in a ball, 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: being like I don't know how to go on. I 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: am so thoroughly embarrassed, and I just need to like 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: literally go to Tahiti, Like I need to like go 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: to a place where there are no screens and no news. 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: And so she was on her phone and somebody said, 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: isn't it weird that, like you're on your phone, like 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: why are you commenting back to people and reposting tiktoks. 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: I would say that her team should take away the phone, 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: but no, she's literally reposting tiktoks like that are in 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: support of her and coming back commenting back to people 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: on Instagram. And then she said, yes, I'm always on 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: it's my job. I still have to work. Want me 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: to stare at a wall instead? 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: Which is crazy. We all do this to a certain degree. 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: She does not have work right now. Nobody is paying 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: me to do an ad right now. 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: Like you also don't get paid to comment on TikTok 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: unless I'm missing something, you don't get paid. 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: To comment on tiktoks and Instagram. 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm so weirded out by the last comment, particularly want 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: me to stare at a wall instead. 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 6: It's like, no, we're suggesting you do plenty of other things. 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: Although if she's if she's labeling this as a job, 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: which yes, I understand, yes, but like it's okay to 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: take some uto, some unpaid time off would be great, 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: or you know, take a mental health day, which a 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: lot of people people do in the real world. So 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: I think she just needs I think silence in this 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: case is a lot more powerful than her being chronically online. 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 43 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: She has kids too, Like, spend time with your kids, 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: get off of your phone, go outside, Like what do 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 3: you mean stare at a wall. There's so much fun 46 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: things you can do. 47 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: You need to be with your family, You need to 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: deal with the people that love you the most right now, 49 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: are going to like comfort and take care of you 50 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: or hire you in the best situation, Yeah, you can 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: hire an assistant. But like, yeah, your comments online are 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: just gonna make everybody else think that you are less well. 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: We're thinking that, like you, poor thing. You have an 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: actual You have a real addiction. Sometimes I feel like 55 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: I have an addiction to the phone too, when I'm 56 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: in the middle of doom scrolling. 57 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, the opjects aren't great period. 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: Like even she's just digging herself an even bigger hole 59 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: than she's already in. 60 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So now we'll talk about Dakota's temporary 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: protective order against her. 62 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 6: It's been granted. 63 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: The court finds that there is reason to believe it 64 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: has jurisdiction over the parties and this case, the respondent 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: and the petitioner are cohabitants and their respondent will be 66 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: served notice of her opportunity to be heard at. 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 6: A scheduled hearing. 68 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: The respondent has abused or committed domestic violence against the 69 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: petitioner or that there are that there is a substantial 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: likelihood that the respondent immediately threatens the petitioner's physical safety. 71 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: Per the order, tailor is unable to have any contact 72 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 2: with Dakota and must oh bye by all orders included 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: on this form and not to abuse threatened or threatened 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: abuse to anyone protected by this order. 75 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 6: La la la la. 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: She needs to stay one hundred feet away from him 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: and cannot contact him through phone. 78 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 6: Mail, email, communicating anyway. 79 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: He will be given temporary custody of the minor children 80 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: and this includes like going and taking her, like taking 81 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: him to school, daycare, And it looks like this will 82 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: be in effect until they have their court hearing on Tuesday, 83 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: April seventh. I think that all of us are probably 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: in agreeance to the fact that even a Dakota is 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: probably not a you know, he's part of the problem 86 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: in all of this. He should probably have custody right now. 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 5: He definitely perpetuates the toxicity of. 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 6: It all He's added to it. 89 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, back to the video too, we're only seeing when 90 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: he decided to record, Like, did he do something to 91 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: her before? Did he do something to rile her up 92 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: to get the reaction that he wanted so that he 93 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: had this video proof, like it all feels so manipulative. 94 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: That's not saying that what she did is wrong, because 95 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: what she did is so so so wrong, But we're 96 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: only seeing him and his narrative of this. 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know people will talk about that too, and 98 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: I see both sides. You could either he could either 99 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: be recording it because you know, he's a victim of abuse, 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: and that is what people say to do, you know, yes, 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: document it, which he is, yes, an abuse victim. But 102 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: at the same time, was he doing it for other 103 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: reasons as well? 104 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 6: We don't know. 105 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: I just it's just so awkward to talk about, Like, 106 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to accuse him of that either. 107 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: I am honestly just for my own because I'm just 108 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: catching up on this. Has she ever once outwardly said 109 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: that he has abused her? I genuinely don't know, Like, 110 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: has that ever? 111 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: I believe in the beginning, yes, and then she's said no. 112 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: Because I've been reading into this too. I think initially 113 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: in the police report it it was that he did too, okay, 114 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: but then she went on a podcast and said he didn't. 115 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, Okay. 116 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: We actually leads into something So we got an extended 117 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: version of the video from like a police body cam 118 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: yesterday in which Dakota says, you, no, please don't take her? 119 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: Do you could take take me? Like I feel like 120 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: I don't even want like this at all, And they're like, well, 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: we have to arrest her right now, but you can 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: like decide not. 123 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 6: To press charges. 124 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: So he was trying to get her out of that 125 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: situation as soon as it happened. Again, I think that's 126 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: probably just because like he felt bad for his girlfriend 127 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: that she was getting handcuffed and taken away. 128 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 6: But again, who the heck knows? 129 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: And then in the recent press release from her lawyer publicists, 130 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: who the heck knows? In response to the cancelation, she 131 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: does insinuate that he's been like mentally, emotionally and physically 132 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: abusive and that she is the true victim here. But 133 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: we don't know if that's true either or if it's 134 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: a pr statement. 135 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: It just seems like it's the most toxic relationship. And 136 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: that's such an overused phrase. But I know it's like 137 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: these two people need to be as far away from 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: each other as possible, and they do not need to 139 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: be on TV. They do not need to be filming 140 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: a TV show together having castmates like rile them up 141 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: and like for the drama. These people are not well 142 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: and they need to get help and like take care 143 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: of their kids. And it's crazy. 144 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that right there, like the priority should be 145 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: the kids, Like get away from the TV show, Like 146 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 4: you said, like this isn't doing anybody any good, Like 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: just get off, get off the TV show and prioritize 148 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: your family, your kids and your mental health. 149 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: I know, I'm like, are there good grandparents around here? 150 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 6: Because I just want these kids. 151 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: To like, well, all these sailors I know exactly what's 152 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: his one? 153 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 6: Are his parents? 154 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: Like? 155 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: I don't know? 156 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: And then of course her ex husband seems very like 157 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: even keeled through all this. 158 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 6: He he seems like. 159 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: A good one. But I guess we all don't really know. 160 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: His not really a public figure. He like pops in 161 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: every now and again, So I wonder what she was 162 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: like back in the day with him. Anyway, I'm glad 163 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: that those kids are in That girl, that daughter was 164 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: his in the video. I can't imagine what he's going 165 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: through now as the dad seeing that video and seeing 166 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: his daughter get hit. All Right, So our next headline 167 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: is about the video Taylor Frankie Paul could face enhance 168 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 2: charges over alleged domestic violence incident due to twenty twenty 169 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: three plea. So what's going on here is that she's 170 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: currently on probation for what happened in twenty twenty three. 171 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: If what happened in February turns out to be something 172 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: her probation, you know, she can get set nuts. She 173 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: could be charged with something worse. And if she didn't 174 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 2: have anything pop up during her probation, she could have 175 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: been charged with her twenty twenty three incident being a 176 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: lesser charge. So that's you know, that's all to be 177 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: determined by whatever the police investigation turns out to seem like. 178 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: One thing that I would like to talk about is 179 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: the fact that they cast to someone has the bachelorette 180 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: who was on probation. I did not know this until 181 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: last week. I was like, wait, what They couldn't even 182 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: leave the country. 183 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 6: Because of this? 184 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: Yes, And that's what I was gonna say. 185 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: The Saint Lucia thing, which is where they filmed the finale, 186 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: apparently there's like an out with like US that's not 187 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: a US Vision island, but that island doesn't have yeah something. 188 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we found out before they started filming that 189 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: they would have to film entirely domestic domestically in the country, 190 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: I guess, aside from Saint Lucia. But because she's on. 191 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: Probation, that really says this shouldn't be you lead, Like. 192 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: I am so thankful for the show meeting my husband, 193 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: but they are just making wrong decision after wrong decision. 194 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: The right decision was to cancel the show, so I'm thankful. 195 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: But if you can't leave the country, get a new girl, 196 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: get Brooks Nader, get anyone else, Like she's not your girl. 197 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 5: My my thing is too. 198 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: It's like it's very interesting because like I feel like 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,239 Speaker 4: behind the scenes we had a revamp, you know, producers 200 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 4: got you know whatever. 201 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 5: There's new production team, camera crew, et cetera. All for 202 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 5: the most part, a lot of new people. I'm like, 203 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 5: who has come in now and has made this decision? 204 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 5: Because I'm like, was this the right choice? 205 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: Should we go back to the other people or like, 206 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just very interesting who made this call? 207 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 5: And I know it's not just one person. I know 208 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 5: it's a bunch of people, Like, oh. 209 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: That's a good idea, what like you know what I mean, 210 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: It's just like interesting how they ended up on this candidate. 211 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: My thought is that it's somebody in charge of the 212 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: crossover content, you know, somebody who would want to make 213 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: that trifecta that is Disney, ABC and Hulu. 214 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 6: Like stronger to connect everything together. 215 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: Our final headline of the week is Taylor Frankie Paul 216 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: melts down during the bachelorette date. A bachelorette date when 217 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: a guy asks about her domestic violence case. So obviously 218 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: we're never going to see this date, but TMZ an 219 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 2: insider with direct knowledge tells TMZ that Taylor's twenty twenty 220 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: three assault case was brought up by a contestant named 221 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 2: Casey Hucks during a one on one. She got very 222 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: emotional about the topic and then supposedly had a full 223 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: fridge melt down when the arrest was brought up and 224 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: she stormed off the set. We're told that Casey raise 225 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 2: the sensitive issue because he wanted to know, if anything, 226 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: if Taylor learned from the experience and how she's grown 227 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: from it, And of course he had never seen the 228 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: TMC video going into that conversation. Casey, I can think 229 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: tell you. I mean, I don't know there's such thing 230 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: as a spoiler alert anymore, but reality Steve has reported 231 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: that he was top three or top four and no, 232 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: he made it to hometowns and he was a contestant 233 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: of note on night one, Like I definitely considered him 234 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: my top four, So that's super interesting. I wonder if 235 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: she was annoyed at him or annoyed at production, because 236 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: perhaps they said something along the lines of like, it 237 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: won't be brought up if your bachelorette, because why else 238 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: would you like freak out in a mad way. Yea, 239 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: everybody knows about this, Yeah, And. 240 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: It would also be interesting to see her actual reaction, 241 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: like obviously we're hearing you know, yeah, assuming you know, 242 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: we don't really know how she reacted. But I mean, 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: judging by how they described it, sounds like they're they're 244 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: still room. 245 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: For growth exactly exactly. And I don't know, they probably 246 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: won't like me saying this, but there was definitely a 247 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: moment in the season long teaser at the end of 248 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,359 Speaker 2: the first episode in which the guys. 249 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 6: Basically give back. 250 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: Their roses and they leave in a hostile moment. 251 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 6: Dang, it was juicy. 252 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really wanted to know what that was about. 253 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: There was also a moment or she took back their roses. 254 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah. I also saw that she is laying 255 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: up to potentially sue ABC. 256 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that seems far fetched to me. 257 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: And then I've also seen speculation that the guys are 258 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: trying to sue ABC because their season won't be aired, 259 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you don't chance there, that's just you 260 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: don't have a chance. And then of course there's the 261 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: option I think that ABC might have to sue her 262 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: because she possibly violated her probation and she will not 263 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: that not that part, the fact that she committed criminal activity, 264 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: possibly allegedly wall under contract, So there's lots of suable matters. 265 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 6: It seems to be. 266 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: She I mean, even just what we know of the contracts, 267 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: not criminal wise, she spoiled the season, so we know 268 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: that you can be sued for that. 269 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: She spoiled her season in the sense that, well, it 270 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: seems like she and Dakota we're back having some sort 271 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: of relationship. 272 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: Dakota and she got spotted with her, the one she picked, 273 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: and she did a TikTok with. 274 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 6: Him, Like what TikTok did she do with him? 275 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: I think it's her most recent TikTok. 276 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: I thought that that was a ploy. I thought that 277 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: I was like, that arm could belong to any man. 278 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: She's just trying to be like, look, I don't hear 279 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: you Dakota as you are, you know, saying certain things 280 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: about me. I can't hear my phone right now because 281 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: she was playing telephone by Lady Gaga. I'm with a 282 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: man right now. And I was like, that could be 283 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: the arm of any man. 284 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 5: But I will say he was wearing a T shirt. 285 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: In one of like the when he was like recently 286 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 4: spotted with her getting out of a car or something. Yeah, 287 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: it was the same T shirt in that TikTok video. 288 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 4: Oh really Yeah, So it's interesting it actually could be him, 289 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 4: and they were spotted in March twelfth. 290 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: I think the day that she posted was the day 291 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: he came out of the car with her with that color. 292 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, interesting, I'm interesting. 293 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's we also heard that that was just 294 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: kind of a marketing ploy and like something to get 295 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: eyes off of the February scandal because that at the 296 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: time what we were all focused on. So who the 297 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: heck knows the rumor is based on reality Steve that 298 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: she ended up with You guys, if you don't want 299 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: to hear this, I guess you can turn this off 300 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: fast forward or whatnot. But it's like, it's not going 301 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: to be out there, and even if it does drop 302 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: on Hulu, like, I think you'll survive knowing that she 303 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: supposedly ends up with Doug and at their relationship, which 304 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: did end engage if they got engaged at the end of. 305 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 6: The show, he he. 306 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: And her ended up breaking up weeks like three four 307 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: weeks after the finale. 308 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 6: He flew out to Utah and I believe a filmed 309 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 6: moment and she. 310 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: Was with Dakota again, like she was like reconciling is 311 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: with Dakota, like she couldn't drop him and Doug was cute, 312 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: and their chemistry in Night one, which I only even 313 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: think I'm allowed to say, was hot. 314 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: I feel like this does dude looks like Dakota a 315 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: little bit. 316 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 6: Oh is the most descript type ever? 317 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 318 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, ever? Ever? 319 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 5: What a mess? What a freaking mess? 320 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: What will they do with these guys? Will they use 321 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: them in Paradise? What do you think in the future 322 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: of this franchise? Do you think that they're going to 323 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: have a paradise. 324 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 5: I think so. 325 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: I think so too. They didn't pivot correctly this time. 326 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: And I we were at the golden wedding Dian and 327 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: I told a producer this, people watch for the MESSI 328 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: and the drama, but they also watch for the love. 329 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: We have so many couples that found love on the show. 330 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: So do what Trader's ish show with couples. 331 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: Literally, I've been saying this for years and years and years, 332 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: like why don't you utilize your couples. You have so 333 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: many married couples. Look at us, all three of us here, 334 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. We would all love to do it. 335 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm speaking for us all, but oh yes, 336 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: and make it a competition show exactly like Trader. People 337 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: will love it. Is that too fast to happen right now? 338 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: Probably what I could imagine them actually being able to 339 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: throw together is some sort of live you know how 340 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: they do Big Brother and stuff and like Love Island, 341 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: like almost live where it's like every week, put something together, 342 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: like just give us two hours of people like just 343 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: mingling on a beach, or like bring them all to 344 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: the mansion, put them up in like the Hilton down 345 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: the street, the Sheridan and then like bring them to 346 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: the mansion during the day, give us two hours of TV. 347 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: That's interesting to see it happen in livetime. 348 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: They need to utilize the The Bachelor mansion was just renovated, 349 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: so yeah, I got to utilize that in some way. 350 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: They I feel like that was a waste of money too. 351 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 7: Now, yeah, it's true, but yeah, people love love, so 352 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 7: it's like, let's let's hone in on love instead of 353 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 7: even though the dramas good drama, is. 354 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: There anything else that you guys think that we should 355 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: broach on this whole situation In the future of the franchise. 356 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 3: I think we just need a break and they need 357 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: to pivot in a different way, like new show concept. 358 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: Let's like scrap it all and do something completely new. 359 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: We don't need to copy other shows formats like they 360 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: try to do Love Island in Paradise last season. Yeah, 361 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: we just need something new and refresh. 362 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 363 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 4: It's hard because I feel like there's so like mixed views. 364 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 4: It's like people want it to go back to the 365 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 4: way it was. People want drama, people want it to 366 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 4: be more like Love Island. So I think they took 367 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: that and I think what they just need to do is, 368 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: like what I've just been saying like this whole time, 369 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: is just going back to their roots, making sure you 370 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: find somebody that actually wants to fall in love. 371 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 5: Give it a give. 372 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 4: Rachel Kirconnell this position, or Brooks Nae or somebody like that. Like, 373 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't even know where you go. 374 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: You guys have been in the franchise a lot longer 375 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: than me. I don't know where you go with this. 376 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: Maybe let it die, I don't know, give it a 377 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: fake rebrand, like change the name. 378 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 5: I don't know. 379 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: But I feel like even like Harry Jalaxy I heard 380 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 4: is coming out with like a Bachelor. 381 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 5: Type style TV show, So like. 382 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: Somebody's also taking that concept and then revamping it and 383 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: making it bigger and better. 384 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 5: So I'm like, how do you stay at the forefront 385 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 5: and it's not tailor Frankie paul By putting her as 386 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 5: leap You don't do that. 387 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to make sense, it does. I think 388 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: we still need that stunt cast. I think we still 389 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: need a celebrity to revamp the franchise just to bring 390 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: attention back to it again. But obviously somebody who is 391 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: a safer choice. Maybe now we go with a guy 392 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: for Bachelor, yeah, or more Higgins. 393 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: Everyone's saying that, I know, but like she would be. 394 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: Perfect, Yeah, she would be really great and she was well, 395 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: so she's trader, so she's not in the Abies Disney family. 396 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 6: They'd have to get over that one. 397 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 3: Which is so silly to me because everyone else has 398 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: branched out. Netflix has branched out, like they're all bringing 399 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: in whoever they want, all these different networks. You're the 400 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: only one that's stuck in our own. So well they 401 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: get out of that. 402 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: With vander Pump. They brought vander Pomp over to Hulu. True, 403 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: So there's you know, there's that. Thank you girls so 404 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: much for joining me. It has been a pleasure, but 405 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: it's been an unfortunate event. So until next time, guys, 406 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: I've been Ashley and they've been Katie and Kaylin, and 407 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 2: thank you so much. 408 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 6: Bye. 409 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 410 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.