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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff coming to you

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Speaker 1: live from the Middlecoff Studios. According a little thing we

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Speaker 1: like to call the Three and Out Podcast. Back again Thursday,

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Speaker 1: August about four o'clock in the afternoon. It is hot here.

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Speaker 1: It is about a hundred degrees and if you google

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be you know, it's gonna be hot in

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Speaker 1: northern California for the next couple of days. Luckily, I'm

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Speaker 1: a warm blooded animal and I love the heat, hate

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Speaker 1: the cold, love the heat. So let's get it on.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you have to play a little golf, sweat it out.

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Speaker 1: Uh got a lot going on football wise, We had

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Speaker 1: some major signings today George Kittle, Travis Kelsey, and I

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Speaker 1: think they fall under something that I say all the time,

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Speaker 1: a mantra and the way I live life. I watched

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, though, as I saw Pro Football Talk reported

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Speaker 1: only like over a little over two hundred thousand people

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Speaker 1: watch Hard Knocks typically like last year, the first episode

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Speaker 1: with the Raiders and Gruden was like sevenfty thousand, so

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Speaker 1: not very many people watched, but I enjoyed it, and

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Speaker 1: I just wrote down some things that I noticed with McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: with with Anthony Lynn, Jalen Ramsey Bosa that I wanted

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Speaker 1: to hit on again. If you like football, it's just

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Speaker 1: an easy watch it. It's probably not gonna be as

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Speaker 1: crazy of a season, but I think there's enough star

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Speaker 1: you know, part of it is just I think a

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Speaker 1: huge reason that limited viewers just Corona people's habits are off.

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Speaker 1: No preseason games doesn't help. There's no build up, just

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Speaker 1: weird times we're living in. So it's just the nature

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Speaker 1: of the beast. Sean McDermott got a big extension, uh

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Speaker 1: Seattle cut an undrafted free agent for trying to sneak

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Speaker 1: in a check who was dressed as a player to

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Speaker 1: his room. What a moron. So we'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: And then of course the Middlecoff mail bag at John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram handle fire in those d m s,

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Speaker 1: Pretty easy. Also for those of you that listen on

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Speaker 1: of you have, and I tip my hat to you again.

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag Instagram at John Middlecoff as the handle

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Speaker 1: is my name, and leave a question if you want.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to just or follow it. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want, but let's start with this.

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Speaker 1: George Kittle got paid today and Travis Kelsey about less

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Speaker 1: than an hour later or got paid too. And I

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Speaker 1: have a mantra I think I stole it from somewhere.

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Speaker 1: A motto, uh, just something that I believe in. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to sports, I have no problem paying a

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Speaker 1: premium for premium players. Now that doesn't always mean you

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna win championships, right. Whenever Deshaun Watson eventually

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Speaker 1: gets paid, he will not make Mahomes money, but he's

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Speaker 1: a premium player. Like listen, I don't enjoy watching James

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Speaker 1: fantastic player. I got no problem maxing out James Harden.

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Speaker 1: He's a premium player. Mookie Betts maxed out, got no problem.

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Speaker 1: But I've been watching jeff so Marja for the last

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Speaker 1: five years and listen, I like jeff so Marja the guy.

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Speaker 1: He's my type guy. He is a terrible baseball player.

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Speaker 1: And the Giants gave him ninety million dollars and he

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Speaker 1: gets shelled every single time he pitches, and it's been

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Speaker 1: a disaster. It's been one of the worst contracts probably

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Speaker 1: all the time in sports, like when the Dominican Sue

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Speaker 1: got sixty million dollars. Now can it was a good player.

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Speaker 1: He was an elite player. He wasn't Aaron Donald. You

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Speaker 1: notice why the Bears and definitely the Rams and now

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Speaker 1: the Chargers that paid premiums for their players, they don't

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Speaker 1: even think twice because when you have an elite player,

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Speaker 1: a chance they get hurt. That's the nature of sports.

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Speaker 1: It's just part of the deal. Right, you drive long enough,

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Speaker 1: many guys in football get hurt when it wasn't even them, right,

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Speaker 1: someone rolls into their ankle, someone hits them. It's not

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Speaker 1: part of the deal. But when you get George Kittle

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Speaker 1: and listen, at the end of the day, the tight

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Speaker 1: end market, even even today with George Kittle getting forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed, is outrageously lowly low valued. Like listen,

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Speaker 1: company that just sells women's clothing. Girl I'm dating uses

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Speaker 1: you're gonna crush. It's a BP fastball right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you get a star tight end. Do you know

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Speaker 1: the best part about having a star tight end? They

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Speaker 1: don't cost that much money. Like everyone wants to star defensive,

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Speaker 1: I don't mind doing it. But when Joey Bosas do

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Speaker 1: That's what these guys cost. It's like Jesus least George

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Speaker 1: Kittle got sixty two million dollars less and guaranteed money

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Speaker 1: and his extension cost him twenty eight million dollar extension.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if the Rams were like, hey, Jalen,

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Speaker 1: for hard knocks, you know, we're we're interested in doing

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Speaker 1: an extension. How does a thirty million guaranteed sound he'd

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what he'd say. They gave him

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Speaker 1: looking back, what the Patriots did with Kronc. He was

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Speaker 1: if they play a premium position. Larry Fitzgerald got fifty

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Speaker 1: got sixty million dollars and listen, I like him, Mary Cooper,

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Speaker 1: but in my paying on top of the market money.

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Speaker 1: But it's craze. See what a good value is right

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Speaker 1: now for these tight ends. Now, I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: Like my biggest issue with the Rams is and you

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Speaker 1: watch him in hard knocks like they're pretty well run.

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Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's really high level. They got good players. They

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Speaker 1: trade them straight up for Brandon Cooks, and those guys

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Speaker 1: cost way less. Technically, Kittle now makes the same as

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks per year, but Cook's got that deal two

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Speaker 1: years ago. And you know, we're talking about these markets

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Speaker 1: getting blown up. I also think they are outliers and markets.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is an outlier, Like, no one's getting that

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Speaker 1: contract for the foreseeable future, even even George Kittle, Like

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Speaker 1: It's not happening. And this is also the great hard

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Speaker 1: I don't ever have to trade the players that are

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Speaker 1: need things to be going well, like when your team

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Speaker 1: is just solid, he'll be fine. I don't know if

425
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Speaker 1: you love him when things are down, because he's he's

426
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Speaker 1: pretty loud, like the one thing with Aaron Donald, he's

427
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: pretty quiet. He just shows up, kicks ass, goes home.

428
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's a badass. The Boats of Brothers and I

429
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: learned this just I got Nick in my backyard and

430
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: watching the show about Joey. I don't really know what

431
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: I thought they were, but they are way more impressive

432
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: guys than I thought. Maybe it's because they're understated and

433
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: they kind of got this rep. Especially Joey used to

434
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: run with Zeke in college. You know, had some question

435
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: marks coming out for being this party guy. I don't

436
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: want to say a slap, but just being a guy

437
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Speaker 1: that a great player, but who knows it was kind

438
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Speaker 1: of a risky you know, could could he be a

439
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 1: trouble guy you know going to l A. Would that

440
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: be a good fit? You watch him just the way

441
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: he was around his coaches when he started crying about

442
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: telling his dad. And I've just seen the way Nick's

443
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 1: conduct himself around here. Pretty impressive family. I'm not talking

444
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Speaker 1: about on the field. They're both elite players, but they

445
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: are like you see why the teams really like them,

446
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: and they get along with everybody. Their perfect fits, you know,

447
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Speaker 1: in their organization. Remember when Nick was first drafted and

448
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: he had some Donald Trump tweets and San Francico media

449
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: was like, how are you gonna fit in? It's like, guys,

450
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: the locker room is not Twitter. People just get along

451
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Speaker 1: with other people. We don't all define ourselves by what

452
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: we say about a politician. You know, most people up

453
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: until social media and in the last like three or

454
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 1: four years, most people didn't give a shit. And I

455
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: just find the bosses really likable as a family and

456
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: definitely absolute ass kickers. And Joey you know, when you

457
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Speaker 1: think about it, the only guy really did get in

458
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: trouble out of the group, Michael Thomas been a badass

459
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Speaker 1: and no issues. Zeke was the only one that and

460
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Speaker 1: I think Joey was kind of with him, but joeays

461
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: been a non issue. Zeke had some issues early on

462
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Speaker 1: in his career. Looks like he's got it figure it out,

463
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: but damn, ohiuse State produces some dudes. That's for damn sure.

464
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed Hard Knocks. I'm looking forward to the next

465
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Speaker 1: episode I just saw within the last twenty four hours.

466
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Speaker 1: Friend of the program actually shot him a text earlier

467
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Speaker 1: to day. Hasn't responded, but do you have his number?

468
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott came on the pod during UM during Training

469
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Speaker 1: or Not Training camp the Indianapolis Combine, which Holy Moley

470
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Speaker 1: feels like seventeen years ago. Got a big contract extension.

471
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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this because a lot of times,

472
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Speaker 1: like when you sign a Belichick, you know, Phil Jackson,

473
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: it's just such a no brainer. But most coaches signed,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, decent sized contracts before you really know if

475
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Speaker 1: they're a championship coach. And it's fair to say that

476
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: you're usually and typically gonna sign a guy to an

477
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: extension just if he wins a little bit, right, doesn't

478
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Speaker 1: necessarily have to win a Super Bowl. And I was

479
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: thinking about relationships, like, think how much more you learn

480
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: about someone after you get married, because typically, for the

481
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Speaker 1: most part, once you get married, then you have children.

482
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Speaker 1: Now I don't have children, but I was raised by

483
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Speaker 1: parents who were married that me and my brother, and

484
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Speaker 1: I saw how difficult it is, right to raise children,

485
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Speaker 1: what you have to go through, the sacrifices you have

486
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Speaker 1: to make for the kids. Let alone, and I'm just

487
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm dating someone right now. Understand Like there are there's

488
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Speaker 1: a learning process of what you go through and the

489
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Speaker 1: growth that you go through with someone as you you

490
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: go through things right in different experiences together. But you

491
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: also learn about people as you do things with them

492
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: and go, God, I really like this person. That person

493
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: is really impressive. How she treats my friends, how she

494
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: treats my mother, and vice versa. I'm sure you're getting

495
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: judged the same way. And oftentimes with coaches, you can

496
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: learn a lot about a guy before you even win.

497
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: Like you can sense it with the way the guy acts,

498
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: the way the guy treats people in the building, the

499
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: way the guy runs his football operation. How much different

500
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: he was Like in relationships to prior coaches, you're like, God,

501
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: she's way cooler than the last two chicks I dated.

502
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: That's for damn sure. Now, Sometimes if it's Freddie Kitchens,

503
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: the bar can be really low. Mike, Listen, We've all

504
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: been in some relationships will we regret. But when you

505
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Speaker 1: get around someone in the coaching profession, I think pretty quickly.

506
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: You know now unlike a player, where I can pay

507
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Speaker 1: a player and he can be on a bad team,

508
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: but if he still produces, he's still worthy of his

509
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: contract because he's doing especially if he's if he's playing

510
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: winning football, winning any sport, basketball, baseball, Like Mike Trout

511
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: does everything humanly possible he can to win. He's worth

512
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: every penny he makes. Now he'd be worth more on

513
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: a good team because he would impact winning. But he

514
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: does everything possible. The Angels would be terrible without him.

515
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes in coaching, and I saw it

516
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan, like he was really good the first

517
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Speaker 1: two years despite the record not being good. You could

518
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: tell now Sean McDermott has now made the playoffs two

519
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: times in three years, and the bar for the Bills

520
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: is really low. But I I think sometimes in the

521
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Speaker 1: day and age we live in that just like making

522
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, like you gotta win championships. Like if you

523
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs every year, do you know as a coach,

524
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: how financially viable you are to your owner, how much

525
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: money he will make the policulas if he just keeps

526
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: on making the playoffs, You know how valuable Andy Reid

527
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: was to Jeffrey Lury or even before Patrick Mahomes showed up,

528
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: when he was just winning consistently, making the playoffs every year,

529
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: winning double digit games, doing huge local television ratings for

530
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and Clark Hunt Stadium, sold out merchandise, flying

531
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Speaker 1: the goals to win, and everyone would like to be

532
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots make nine super Bowls in two decades, win

533
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: three in the last six years. But it's okay to

534
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs every year. Like what Mike McCarthy

535
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: meant to the Packers was a lot of cash and

536
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: a lot of money and a lot of success. And

537
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: he was worth the contract extensions they gave him. And

538
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott right now, and I know him personally is

539
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: a really, really impressive guy. And the crazy thing about

540
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Speaker 1: the coaching profession is my first year in Philly, we

541
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Speaker 1: got he got fired. He got fired. We had made

542
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs and hosted a playoff game, and Sean McDermott

543
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: got fired. Now about a decade later, he just got

544
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: a contract extension as a head coach. So you know, listen,

545
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: I've been fired a couple of times. I got fired

546
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: by the Eagles. It never like it's crazy on some

547
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: of your lowest moments. How if you're really good and

548
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: really focused, even if you're not that good, if you're

549
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: just determined to not fail. What's the number one predictor

550
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: of success in America? It's not intelligence, it's not talent.

551
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: It's great And the one thing when I was around

552
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. Now, he's a really smart guy, but he

553
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: is a grinder, I mean a disciplined grinder and for

554
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: being like a skinny, bald guy. He former wrestler. I

555
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: think he was college teammates with Mike Tomlin at William

556
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: and Mary. He's just a tough guy and an overachiever.

557
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: And do you know what, I like my coaches to

558
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: be kind of like him, to be overachiever or tough

559
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: guys and just absolute grinders. So is he ever gonna

560
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: win Super Bowl? And Buffalo? Really his success, Josh Allen

561
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: is gonna have to be a great player. And if

562
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: this year Josh Allen order regress, they'd have a quarterback problem.

563
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Though I still think they could function because they're gonna

564
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: be good on defense and well coached, but their immediate

565
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: futurist tied to Josh Allen but we know sEH mc

566
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: germs a good coach, and to me, you just extend

567
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: good coaches because we see when you get a bad coach,

568
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, uh, a guy that has no business being

569
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: a head coach. How they look. And I'm not even

570
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: talking about Freddie Kitchens or even uh Jim, Tom Seula

571
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: or Patricia. I'm just talking in the middle of the

572
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: road guys like a guy that should be a good

573
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Speaker 1: head coach, but for whatever reason he's not, North Turner,

574
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer, Guys that are like legit coordinators, like god,

575
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: why doesn't this work? It just it just doesn't work right,

576
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: or college coaches like Shiano or Chip Kelly like got

577
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: this should and it just doesn't work. It works with Sean,

578
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: he's just the Buffalo Bills have a legitimate coach. And

579
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Speaker 1: if Bill Belichick ever retired, which who knows he might not,

580
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: Uh no life, he's a football guy, they would easily

581
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: have the best coach in that division. And I think

582
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: now they're this guy's gotta be good. And as Sean

583
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: told me in training camp that Josh Allen last year

584
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: everyone said he can't throw short and intermediate, and he

585
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: improved dramatically in that area, and he said this year,

586
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: obviously the question is deep all accuracy. Well, it's gonna

587
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: be huge because what did they do. They traded for

588
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Digs from Minnesota, who was one of the best deep

589
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: all threats in the league. So if they can figure

590
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: that out, they're gonna just be really good because they

591
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: are good. They're just a good team. But like, you

592
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: don't know how good of a mom. And you know,

593
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: my listenership is mainly male, so I'll just use that

594
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Speaker 1: example she's gonna be. And I've never had a mother,

595
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't have children, but like I think you can

596
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: pretty much tell like, yeah, this girl's gonna be a

597
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: good mom or wow, I don't know if this is

598
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: quite gonna work. Just like you know, I don't know

599
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: if Sean McDermott's gonna just rattle off playoff victories, but

600
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: I got a pretty good idea he might, right, I'm

601
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: pretty bullish on the guy. I think we've seen enough

602
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: evidence that if Josh Allen turns into a player, they

603
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: could be a powerhouse. And I'm betting on Sean McDermott.

604
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: A little biased, but props of the Buffalo Bills for

605
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: for knowing what they got Okay, before we get into

606
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: the mail bag, we just got a hit on this

607
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: story the Seattle Seahawks. Uh Keema Silverton Silverlin. I don't

608
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: even know how to say his name. I had never

609
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: heard of him. Uh, And I was like, did they

610
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: trapped this guy? Then I googled it. He was an

611
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent corner from Oklahoma State the Fighting and

612
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: my Gundy's he in the last couple of days, try

613
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: to sneak in a female at training camp. I don't

614
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: know if he met her and see out what the

615
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: deal is. We try to sneak her in and she

616
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: was dressed like a guy like she was on the team,

617
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: so she must have been wearing some swags, some sweats.

618
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a girlfriend. And they got caught and

619
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks and John Schlander immediately

620
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: cut him. Now, on the most basic levels, funny, right, dude,

621
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: that there's one undefeated team in world history and it's

622
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: not an athletic team, right, And this guy fell victim

623
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: to it, and he lost and it cost him a job.

624
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: It's funny, you know, sneaking someone in. It's just it's

625
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: something that listen, I've snuck out of my house many

626
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: times growing up, so I'm pro pushing the envelope most times.

627
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: But on a serious note, and again kind of funny

628
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: the headline, it's a funny headline, got caught sneaking and

629
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: lost his job. On a serious note, like I'm sorry,

630
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't think this guy could be any bigger of

631
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: an idiot or a moron. Like on the moron scale

632
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: of one to ten, this guy's like a twenty in

633
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: the middle of Corona when these coaches and you saw

634
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Speaker 1: on hard knocks and you just see in life how

635
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: often this being talked about, how serious this is to

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Speaker 1: one just try to get through camp. And the NFL

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Speaker 1: has done a really good job because they've taken it

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Speaker 1: really seriously. I think they did a report like that.

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Speaker 1: They've actually done really well with the testing that a

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Speaker 1: guy who's an undrafted free agent. So if you're an

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, this is the worst year of the

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Speaker 1: history of the league to be an undrafted free agent.

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Speaker 1: Typically it's you actually sometimes rather be an undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agent than like a six round pick. This guy's an

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, he's fighting for a roster spot, and

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Speaker 1: he gets caught and he gets cut it's I can't

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Speaker 1: even imagine. And I saw a lot of people tweeting

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Speaker 1: like this is because of Corona. There's be an extra

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Speaker 1: strict into that this could happen in thousand fifteen in

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Speaker 1: in the dorms or really the hotels, I guess, because

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Speaker 1: every team is just practicing from their facility, so it's

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Speaker 1: just a rookie hotel where all the rookies are staying.

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Speaker 1: You would have been cut for this, whether Corona was

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Speaker 1: going on or not. I saw Jeff Schwartz tweet that,

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Speaker 1: and he's dead on like this, that's unaccepted, that that

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Speaker 1: would not fly in the middle of training camp, Like

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Speaker 1: you have rules and you either follow him or you don't.

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Speaker 1: Now listen, we all you don't have needs in life,

659
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Speaker 1: but if you can't suck it up for a month

660
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Speaker 1: when you're trying to make an NFL team and you

661
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: haven't even been around these guys, right, because there was

662
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: no off season, they do not know you. The other

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Speaker 1: thing during training camp and this year because there's no film,

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Speaker 1: it's not like he got to put two preseason games

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Speaker 1: where the film. It's like, God, this guy could be

666
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Speaker 1: pretty good. We're gonna look past this. This is the

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Speaker 1: time where teams have to trust players at probably higher

668
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Speaker 1: levels than they ever have given what's on the line

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Speaker 1: and this virus. I don't see how the listen this is.

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Speaker 1: There have been much worse infractions of players, right, We've

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Speaker 1: seen countless domestic violence, murder her I mean, drug trafficking.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it all in the NFL. The NFL is

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Speaker 1: a real life playmaker show from ESPN back in the day.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it at all. But this has to be

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Speaker 1: on the short list given the times we're in. Of

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest idiots to ever get a chance

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I can't even overstate that. And I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine that they said what he dressed her up

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Speaker 1: like a dude on the team to try to get

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Speaker 1: her past security. I would pay for the security footage

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Speaker 1: of the security guard that works for the Seahawks and

682
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Speaker 1: his reaction, like are you guys serious? Do you understand

683
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Speaker 1: the profession that we're in, Like you're you're not trying

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Speaker 1: to pull this off at the normal insurance company where

685
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Speaker 1: they got no clue Like these guys. The security team

686
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Speaker 1: is used to monitoring guys that make millions of dollars

687
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Speaker 1: who are public figures and have done some stupid shit

688
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: over the years. They've seen it all the level of

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Speaker 1: stupidity that this guy attempted to pull as a as

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Speaker 1: a guy with the least amount of leverage in the building.

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Speaker 1: If Russell has the most of the ad players at

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Speaker 1: training camp, right, if Russell's number one, Bobby Wagner two

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Speaker 1: or whatever, this guy would be borderline number eighty. If

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Speaker 1: all things are just equal and everyone's just a good guy,

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Speaker 1: I don't see even if some teams around the league

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Speaker 1: had a decent draft grade on this player, like kind

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Speaker 1: of liked him coming out and for whatever reason, even

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Speaker 1: though the market already kind of spoke like, bro, you

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Speaker 1: did not get drafted like I should have been drafted. No, you,

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Speaker 1: you weren't drafted. Every team passed on you countless times.

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Speaker 1: Some teams, you know, ten to fifteen times passed on you.

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Speaker 1: The league show told you what they think about you.

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Speaker 1: You're an undrafted free agent. Luckily in the NFL, that's

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Speaker 1: not a death sentence. You can overcome that. You can

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Speaker 1: become a really good player. You've become a starter in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You just now I'm not gonna say in

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Speaker 1: absolute like he'll never get a chance. I'm pretty confident

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Speaker 1: that no GM is messing with this guy. You can't

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Speaker 1: trust him. He couldn't make it to the middle of

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Speaker 1: August in Corona. Think about that. Couldn't make in the

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Speaker 1: middle of August because he wanted to get laid, which

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Speaker 1: we all can relate to. I understand that, but I

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Speaker 1: think there are sometimes in life you gotta suck it up.

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Speaker 1: And in the middle of a pandemic, when you're trying

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Speaker 1: to make the National Football League, you might need to

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Speaker 1: just hold out for a month, right and just just

717
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Speaker 1: suck it up, and you know, use the iPad if

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Speaker 1: you gotta. But God, I mean, moron number one in

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Speaker 1: the league right now, this cat from Oklahoma. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: get into the little thing we'd like to call the

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff. It's in that symbol

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Speaker 1: and then just my name and it's the Instagram handle

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Speaker 1: and the d MS wide open. Leave a question up

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Speaker 1: in the in the d M s and you get

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Speaker 1: them answered right here. Pretty easy, very very straightforward. Also,

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Speaker 1: just got to reiterate, if you like the show and

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Speaker 1: you're listen on Collins Feed, subscribe on the Apple or

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts the Separate three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast that's this show, and it helps with selling and everything.

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Speaker 1: Leave a review on Apple if you can greatly appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have tip my hat

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Speaker 1: to you. Again, I just if you like the show,

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Speaker 1: I would greatly appreciate you doing it doesn't take long.

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Speaker 1: Full disclosure. I recorded every part of the show except

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Speaker 1: this about three and a half four hours ago, ended

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Speaker 1: up doing some other work, went for a run, try

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Speaker 1: to get my fat ass in shape. It's hard. During Corona,

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Speaker 1: made some dinner, watch some TV, and now I'm back here.

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Speaker 1: It's about eight thirty almost. And it's a great part

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Speaker 1: about podcasting. You can kinda put the show together at

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Speaker 1: your own pace. And I was actually just thinking when

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Speaker 1: I was eating my little burrito that I made pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It actually a little meat, some beans and and just

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Speaker 1: tortilla and put a little salsa on top. That you

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Speaker 1: know when today, when Kittle was signed, my first reaction

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Speaker 1: was to look like, if Kittle just got forty million,

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Speaker 1: what is Travis Kelsey, who just won the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: who's a back to back all pro, who's had two catches,

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Speaker 1: what's his contract status? And it turns out that his condent,

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Speaker 1: like he had two years left on his deal, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, this is probably gonna be the last year

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Speaker 1: Kelsey on the team. And I thought earlier this season

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Speaker 1: or the off season, like when we were in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: even when I was at the super Bowl talking to

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Speaker 1: each Remember when whenever these guys come on, you know,

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Speaker 1: the first thing I say, listen, I'm not a journalist.

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Speaker 1: I'm not here searching for the truth. I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: to get a good interview with famous people, GMS coaches,

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Speaker 1: you know, players, whatever. I'm not here to kind of

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Speaker 1: hit you with some secret question, like I gotta ask

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Speaker 1: how much how are the contract negotiations going on with Homes?

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Speaker 1: Like I just we know they're talking. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: go anywhere, so he you know, so I have no

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Speaker 1: problem not prying in if they're gracious enough to come

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Speaker 1: on the show. But it was, and I didn't even

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Speaker 1: ask him. I just assumed. Obviously, I'd never assume Mahomes

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Speaker 1: gonna get ten year, four and fifty million dollar deal.

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Speaker 1: But we knew and they were all talking, you know,

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Speaker 1: when I was there at the super Bowl, like Mahomes

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Speaker 1: was gonna get an astronomical amount of money. I just

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Speaker 1: assumed it was gonna be like forty million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: but like two right, it turns out its way more.

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Speaker 1: And then somehow I always thought that Chris Jones was

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Speaker 1: gonna get tagged and traded and they signed him, and

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Speaker 1: then even looking at Kelsey today, my first response was like,

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Speaker 1: this probably gonna be his last year. Then they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to trade him, and somehow they signed him too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's they won the Super Bowl, signed

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Speaker 1: the best player in franchise history, Mahomes, and kept two

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Speaker 1: of their next three best players. It's just crazy. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how Veach did that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Beach is a dynamic GM. He just really is. I

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Speaker 1: know him. I mean I've yeah, I'm not just saying that,

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Speaker 1: like if he sucked, I just wouldn't say it, but

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be talking about him. But it's pretty clear

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Speaker 1: like he's just really good. Like the forty Niners what

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Speaker 1: they did with Kittle today, It's not like Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: makes like two million dollars. They don't even have that.

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Speaker 1: They can cut the Ford and Richard Truman's off the

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Speaker 1: books next year if he doesn't resign, Like, they don't

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Speaker 1: even have that much. It's they were just hassling over

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Speaker 1: how much they were gonna pay him. I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't even quite dove into all the numbers. I

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Speaker 1: don't even understand it how the Chiefs pulled this off.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even get it, but they did. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not I'm not even trying to humble brag.

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Speaker 1: I I just text Andy at dinner. I was like, God,

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Speaker 1: Veach is a he has a dynamic GM, I mean

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Speaker 1: he in His response was just very I mean he is.

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Speaker 1: He's good. I mean he's really really good that there's

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Speaker 1: just no way around it. And the Chiefs now are built.

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Speaker 1: And Kelsey's game because he's not some like huge, you know,

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Speaker 1: him and Kiddle are different. Kelsey's much more active consistently

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Speaker 1: in the passing game though he's just asked to do that.

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Speaker 1: If Kittle played for Coach Read and I mean Andy

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Speaker 1: would have him blocked too, because he's such a dominant blocker.

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Speaker 1: They're they're just different type players. But if you ask

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Speaker 1: Kittle to play in the slot every every down, he'd

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Speaker 1: get open with these on guys. I mean, he could

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Speaker 1: fly kills. They just need him to block more for

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Speaker 1: the Niners because the running games a huge part of

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Speaker 1: what they do, and he's an lead blocker. But they're

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Speaker 1: both elite players. I mean, Kelsey is a dominant player,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't know how I kept him all

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Speaker 1: It's just it's wild. Now there's also an element of

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Speaker 1: and I think the Patriots have had this for a

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Speaker 1: while if you're an offensive player and you're playing for

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Because Kelsey actually didn't get Kittle guaranteed money

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Speaker 1: and now granted it was an extension, and if you

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Speaker 1: factor in the money he's gonna play these next two years,

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Speaker 1: he was making like nine million dollars a year, it'll

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Speaker 1: all add up to about the same. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes if you think like Julian Edelman and

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Speaker 1: mccordy and those guys did over the years, and you go, well,

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Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, i might not have

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Speaker 1: the contract that some of these other cats have, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have two or three rings. And one time

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Speaker 1: I was texting with a famous player on D M,

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Speaker 1: S and I and he brought up the point that

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Speaker 1: you know what's crazy about the NFL is we don't

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Speaker 1: really make any money in the playoffs. And this is

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Speaker 1: a guy that's kind of played in a lot of

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Speaker 1: playoff games. Now he's made a lot of money as

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Speaker 1: a as just a player, but he's like, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of crazy. We we don't get paid for the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, it's it's kind of true.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just thinking about it, it's and it's just

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Speaker 1: don't even Lebron or any of these sports. You make

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Speaker 1: all this money, if you're making twenty even ten million dollars,

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Speaker 1: and then once the playoffs start, you get like these

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars you know, dividends basically. But my pushback

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Speaker 1: was when you win in the playoffs, you can make

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Speaker 1: money forever. And that's the Patriot example. Like mccordy, Edelman, Gronk,

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Speaker 1: those guys, Yeah, they haven't made as much as some

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Speaker 1: guys on the field, even Brady. But Brady is gonna

846
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: be printing cash till the day he dies. Edelman is

847
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna be printing money in that Boston area and just

848
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: everywhere when he gets Here's three times Super Bowl champ

849
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman. Here's three time Super Bowl champ. Devin mccordy.

850
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: Here's one of the greatest tight ends of all time

851
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: and three times Super Bowl champ. We'll see then maybe

852
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: they'll win it again this year. Rob Gronkowski, there's something

853
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: to that. Here's think about Travis Kelsey. Could he have

854
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: made more if he had like made a stink and

855
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: not signed this extension? But what if the Chiefs win

856
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: two more Super Bowls in the next five years. Here's

857
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, two times super Bowl champion and then seven

858
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: time Pro bowler. I wouldn't have left Patrick Mahomes either,

859
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: you know. I think you know you see this with

860
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: the Niners, Like if I played for Kyle Shanahan or

861
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: I played for you know, Sean Payton m I wouldn't

862
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: want to leave those guys. It just you know where

863
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: your bread's buttered. If I was, you know, working for

864
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: Tim Buck or Elon Musk, I want to write it

865
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: out too. You don't want to leave talented people in

866
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: certain businesses. I mean that's pretty clear there for the bailback.

867
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: If you saw the quotes from Ryan Day's teleconference, you

868
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: could tell he was piste and frustrated with the big

869
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: tent you think this ends up causing him to just

870
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: say screw it to college football and go get an

871
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: NFL job. I actually saw him again today, I saw

872
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: to get tweeted. In my timeline. He's pretty measured. Um,

873
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I would say this unless a job in the NFL

874
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: is you know, And I'm not saying he's some hot

875
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: candidate right now because Lincoln, you'd still more proven than him.

876
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: He's coached one year. Urban left him a loaded team

877
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: they were loaded against this year. I understand him being

878
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: piste off because I may be wrong on this, but

879
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: I've read some places that the Big Tent is gonna

880
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: have people at school, like these schools are allowing inter murals.

881
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: My whole issue with all this is just so arb rary.

882
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: You know, the based on science left a long time ago.

883
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: We're just basing things on like what politicians and school

884
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: presidents are just kind of pulling out of their ass

885
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: and it changes state to state, place to place. And

886
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: I get Ryan Day being mad on the simple fact

887
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: he had a squad. I mean a squad. To me,

888
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: they would have been the betting favorite to win it all.

889
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: So anytime that you have a squad that's good, it

890
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: is that good. And it gets ripped away from you.

891
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: I get being mad, I I really do. And in

892
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: his case, like the quarterback was probably gonna this is

893
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: gonna be this one year with Justin Fields, so that

894
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: that's a big loss. Uh. But at the end of

895
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: the day, think about this, If an NFL job has

896
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: a star quarterback, it's better than every college job. Right

897
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: you could put Russ if you if the Jaguars had

898
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and offered Ryan Day the job, that job

899
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: is better than Ohio State because you can win a

900
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: super Bowl if you have a top you know, Aaron Rodgers,

901
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes, it's got to be a leak guy. But

902
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: if your job does not have a quarterback or a

903
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: question market quarterback, it's not a better job than Ohio State.

904
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: Like you could all and you could push back, and

905
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: I would imagine some of how State fans would be,

906
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: like even the Jaguars and Russell Wilson, that that might

907
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: be a stretch. Like coaching at Ohio State. If you're good,

908
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: is an NFL job. There are unlimited resources you get

909
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: as they do with Alabama. You don't recruit, you pick players,

910
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: you draft, you know, twenty first rounders, a year, like,

911
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: how's Ryan Day unless, like Pete Carroll retires next year

912
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: and Seattle offered him, how do you find a better job?

913
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: You think about most of these new coaches to get jobs. Besides,

914
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: like McCarthy, most of the jobs stink the last couple

915
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: of years, like the Cardinals, the Giants, the Dolphins. I mean,

916
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: I just coach Ohio State. They pay a six seven

917
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: eight million dollars. You're a king in the town. I've

918
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: never been to Columbus, but it's a it's a big city.

919
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of the biggest universities right in

920
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: America just the size, let alone the town's big and

921
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: you're number one. Like to me, I'm a big fan

922
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: of and I'm a little jaded. I worked for one

923
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: NFL team and we're the number one thing in town

924
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: and that was badass. You know, I can't imagine being

925
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: something like it's probably the Chiefs, and I know with

926
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: the Niners, uh, the Patriots, right, the Steelers, the Packers,

927
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: like there is a group. You know, I haven't been

928
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: to every city, but it's the Bears. I mean, are

929
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: the Cubs bigger? You'd have to tell me from Chicago

930
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: is probably a push if the Bears are good. But

931
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: to me, it's a big deal to be a big

932
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: deal in town, Like you want to coach where football

933
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: is king. That's why having a job at Alabama or

934
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: Florida or the Dallas Cowboys is a big deal, you know,

935
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: Like is are the Houston Texans the biggest thing in Houston?

936
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: Or as college football bigger in Houston? Like is it

937
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: are the Atlanta Falcons the biggest thing in Atlanta? Where's

938
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: college football bigger? I think it's fair to say college

939
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: football bigger like Tampa Bay, Like they got a good

940
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: squad and Tom's there and this year is gonna be cool.

941
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: But Tam, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are never gonna be

942
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: the biggest team in Florida. I mean, if the other

943
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: three teams are good, they'll probably be the fourth Florida State,

944
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: Miami and the University of Florida. So I I just

945
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: think it doesn't get much bigger in Ohio State. Hypothetically,

946
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: couldn't teams from the Big Ten and Pack twelve just

947
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: joined the Big twelve and SEC for a year if

948
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: they want to play in the fall and just have

949
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: a couple of super conferences and have them just play

950
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: they're already released schedule, or could you see these teams

951
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: refusing to play in the spring in the conferences that cancel,

952
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: so their players aren't playing twenty games and nine month window.

953
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: Wondering how that's look if it's feasible. I don't see

954
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: how they play in the spring. I know there are

955
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: some things being floated around. I think Jeff Brahma Purdue.

956
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: I didn't read his proposal, but I just don't think

957
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: it's feasible to play two seasons in one year. Now.

958
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: I saw gott Leap tweet this, and he's right. There's

959
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: always been spring football, and spring football had fifteen practices

960
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: and several scrimmages. The differences in a season you practice.

961
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: So let's say your normal week is you practice Monday,

962
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: you practice Tuesday, you practice Wednesday, Thursday's light, Friday's a

963
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: walk through, Saturday you play. Now at Fresno State, we

964
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: practice slash ran on Sunday, and and I guess got

965
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: Monday off. So your typical week is Tuesday, hard practice, Wednesday,

966
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: hard practice, Thursday ramping down but still pretty locked in Friday,

967
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: walk through, Saturday, play Sunday like a workout. Slash just

968
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: get your legs moving to get the you know, stiffness,

969
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: sore nous out Monday off. So that's a like in

970
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: the spring of fifteen total practices. I'm talking four practices

971
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: in a game in one week, and lifting it is

972
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: a sixth day. So I I don't see how you

973
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: accomplished that in the spring, because a game week is

974
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: just intense, the game planning, the practices, working around school,

975
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: the games at these campuses. I I I don't see

976
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: it happening. Uh, now that that's John, I hate the podcast,

977
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: you ugly son of a bitch with a winky emoji.

978
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: Now that, uh, that's out of the way. And in

979
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: light of George Kittles signing his extension, would you please

980
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: explain to the audience how signing bonuses in the NFL work?

981
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: Thanks it advanced? Well, I'd have to text a couple

982
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: of my my negotiating friends. Here's how, in to my knowledge,

983
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: it works. And I've been explained this several times. But

984
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: when you don't talk about it all the time, you

985
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: kind of forget the nuances of it. When you see

986
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: the true guaranteed. So the forty million dollars for Hitle

987
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: that goes into escrow George Kittle is getting that forty

988
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: million dollars no matter what. The Niners have to have

989
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: that within two weeks of signing. The way it's always

990
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: been explained to me is a signing bonus. So the

991
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars for George Kittle, for example, I think

992
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: you know Bosses was huge, gets paid in then in

993
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: two weeks of signing, So within two weeks of signing,

994
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: he will get eighteen million dollars, and then that forty

995
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: million dollars is essentially paid over the first like I

996
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: think twenty four months. I was about to say twelve months,

997
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: but that feels crazy. Like in the NFL, the majority

998
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: of your guaranteed money gets paid very very early in

999
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: the contract because then an escrow account. That's why it's

1000
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: kind of screwed up the way they do it. And

1001
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: the signing bonus is just the moment you sign, Like

1002
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: George Kittle is gonna have eighteen million dollars in the

1003
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: next two weeks, helly, I don't logistically might have it

1004
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: next week and then the way these why the cap

1005
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: numbers always look weird is because you can take the

1006
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: bonuses and amortize them over the course of the contract.

1007
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: That's why people don't mind giving big signing bonuses sometimes

1008
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: because they can like push back some of the numbers,

1009
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: like eighteen million dollars over like amortize it over whatever

1010
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: four or five years of his deal, which really for

1011
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: tight end is not that much money, right. I mean

1012
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: that it's a lot of money for a tight end,

1013
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: but just relative to like Joey Boss contract or uh

1014
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes type deal. So that's where that's why, as

1015
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: a contract negotiator told me, it was it last year

1016
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: when matt Ryan signed that deal for a hundred million dollars,

1017
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: he was like, Arthur Blank has to put a hundred

1018
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: million dollars in cash in a in a NESCRO account

1019
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: And Mattie isis signing bonus was massive, so was Rogers.

1020
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: So like when Rogers got that huge guaranteed contract, you

1021
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: have to I mean, that's that's what's a lot different.

1022
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: Like when Clay Thompson signs with the Warriors for million,

1023
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: you don't have to have the nine million. You just

1024
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: pay them that you're or thirty or whatever the number

1025
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: is and you just go from there. In the NFL,

1026
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: like that's where the guaranteed numbers are pretty big. Because

1027
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: it's freaking guaranteed. Now it's essentially guaranteed to in the

1028
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: other sports, but you don't look at it in the

1029
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: Nestcrow account. Do you think the n C double A

1030
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: Pack twelve will meet the players and Man's halfway partly

1031
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: or not really at all? And if not, what does

1032
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: that mean for the Pack twelve moving forward? Star players,

1033
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: transfers lose recruits, thanks Kate, Well, they're never gonna get

1034
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: I think name, image and likeness is inevitable, so that

1035
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: the yeah, they'll they'll give them that. I think that,

1036
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: and I've explained this, and I think most people listening

1037
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: know that the football program pays for all the other sports.

1038
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: So like they want revenue, Well, hey, guys, you can't

1039
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: pretend to care about women's basketball and then say you

1040
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: want revenue because it finances that And there's that stupid Yes,

1041
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: I agree that shouldn't be the case, but that's the model,

1042
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: and you want revenue share. You're not like a business

1043
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: partner in this right Like that that we got expenses here,

1044
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: and the expenses are all the athletic department. Now we

1045
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: cut those because I would fire about half the you know,

1046
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: assistant eighties in my department. Hell, I got no problem

1047
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: getting rid of most of the Olympic sports. That sounds cruel,

1048
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: but I'm a football guy. I mean, and I'm a

1049
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: business guy. I like my big business the profit from

1050
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: the I got no problem given the players a cut.

1051
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: Here's the problem though, in football? So does like the

1052
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: backup guard get the same as the star wide receiver

1053
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: that's the first round pick. How do you divvy up

1054
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: the revenue to your players? Is only a scholarship athlete

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Speaker 1: allowed to get money? What about the walk on? Is

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Speaker 1: the Is the Tim Tebow Johnny Manzel player allowed to

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Speaker 1: get more? That's how it works in normal society. The

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Speaker 1: more talented guys get paid more. Where do we got

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Speaker 1: to be equal? Are we getting rid of women's sports?

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Speaker 1: Would the FED allowed that? It's a federal law Title

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Speaker 1: nine fair not it exists. Are you planning to attend

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Speaker 1: NFL games if fans are allowed in most stadiums, do

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Speaker 1: you have opinions on how things should be run? Pre

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Speaker 1: fact pre packaged food, no draft beers, plastic seat between fans.

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Speaker 1: I've received email surveys from teams whose tickets I've purchased

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Speaker 1: for the season. They're doing the best to accommodate the

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Speaker 1: fans NFL and NFL p A has the ability to

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Speaker 1: get the season going. Just wondering your opinion on attending games.

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Speaker 1: I'm down to wear mask and comply with most things

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Speaker 1: to attend so far, I'm planning to see Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: in his final season and Cam Newton began the second

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Speaker 1: half of his career. It's a hell of a question

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Speaker 1: by by Seth. I would say I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: attend an NFL game, not because I wouldn't because we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna have fans in California. So I was about

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Speaker 1: to say I got two teams on. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Raiders are gone, the Niners will not have fans this year,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna travel somewhere to go to a game.

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Speaker 1: The Niners were having fans and I could go to

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Speaker 1: a game. I would sit in the stands, no problem,

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Speaker 1: and like you, I'd wear my little mission mask. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't care. So I I don't know. I saw Jerry

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Speaker 1: say it. I was I've thought about that before. It's

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Speaker 1: crossed my mind, like you couldn't have concessions open. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes I walk down the street and in California, I

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Speaker 1: mean listen, I got no. You tell me to wear

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Speaker 1: a mask in your in your building, I put it on.

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Speaker 1: I'll allow your rules. If I'm walking down the street

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Speaker 1: by myself, I don't have it on now if like

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Speaker 1: but again, like I got antibodies and I ain't scared.

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Speaker 1: I can't even pass the thing. But I never understand

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Speaker 1: like people wearing the mask and then they sit down

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Speaker 1: at a table outside and then take it off while

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Speaker 1: people are just walking by. Like That's where I get

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Speaker 1: with the arbitrary rules. None of them really make that

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Speaker 1: much sense. So if you could have a quarter of

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Speaker 1: the population, you wouldn't be able to fill it. So

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Speaker 1: if you could have fifty fans, how do they choose? Like,

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Speaker 1: so you bought a ticket, why are you allowed to go?

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Speaker 1: And the guy next to you not? Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: That's where it gets complicated. Could you allow to bring

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Speaker 1: your own food? We know the NFL wouldn't want to

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Speaker 1: do that. I haven't really thought that deeply about it.

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Speaker 1: My guests would be if there were only a quarter

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Speaker 1: of the fans there, you wouldn't need all the concessions

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Speaker 1: open anyway, Maybe they have three designated spots throughout the

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Speaker 1: you know, stadium that you would get a beer food

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Speaker 1: from and sit in your seat where it's like every

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Speaker 1: other row or something. I don't know. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would attend the game, though, But you're talking to

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Speaker 1: a guy that's not afraid of Corona in the slightest,

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Speaker 1: Like I, I just I'm not so I I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think about it, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only reason I think about it is

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Speaker 1: because of the restrictions that are on our life. But

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Speaker 1: not like like I went for a hike the other

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Speaker 1: day and this woman, I mean I was in the

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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere and I saw her coming from a

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Speaker 1: while away and she just was hiking with a mask on.

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Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I'm all, I get I had

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Speaker 1: no problem. If you're scared, I understand it. Like my

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Speaker 1: mom's scared. She's also seventy two and had cancer before,

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Speaker 1: so like I get it, Like she should be. This

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Speaker 1: is her disease, so she hot, she quarantines as she should.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't come out like it's this disease is for her,

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Speaker 1: It's not for me. Right, And this lady who you know,

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Speaker 1: it was probably in her early forties. It was like,

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Speaker 1: do you think the deer are gonna have corona out here,

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, I think a bear is gonna give

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Speaker 1: it to you? What are you doing? But again she

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Speaker 1: walked by, gave her little DoD. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: into shaming anyone, but it did cross my mind, like

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Speaker 1: she's just where it was like degrees. What are you doing? Uh?

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Speaker 1: But I guess that's not pc to shame people with

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Speaker 1: masks in the in the wilderness by yourself. But that's

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Speaker 1: the world we're living in. What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, Share with your friends, subscribe to the pod,

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Speaker 1: and I will talk to you next week. So you