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Speaker 1: text time you're writing intensive Hello there, Welcome, Welcome to Friday,

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Speaker 1: right that feels good. Welcome to One Bill's Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Driver, right next door to the stadium, new

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Speaker 1: air of field here in Archard Park. It's chili, it's cold,

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Speaker 1: it's gray. It's a typical February day in Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: New York. If you live around here, you know what

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Speaker 1: At one point, you're probably thinking to yourself, I miss

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Speaker 1: buffalo today. It's not the day that you would say

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Speaker 1: I really miss buffaloes, right, Yeah, it's just not Let's

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Speaker 1: be honest. The weather is kind of a bleak right now.

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Speaker 1: And but still stuff. You know, we're Buffalonians, so stuff's

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Speaker 1: still going on. And we're coming in the end of

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Speaker 1: setting up for this thing. Did you get the low

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Speaker 1: down from those kids about what's going on. There's one

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Speaker 1: hundreds hope of event coming up. I think tonight into

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Speaker 1: and and we you know, you gotta get keep it

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Speaker 1: going even though the weather's cruddy, keep these events special events. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I got to invent tomorrow. I'm doing beer ski. I'm

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Speaker 1: Park and there's beer stations and that. You got to

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Speaker 1: and you take bring you know, it's an outdoor day

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Speaker 1: and it's supposed to be on cross country skis or

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Speaker 1: so now it is right? Well now, so you go

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Speaker 1: out and they do it. You go out, you buy

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Speaker 1: these kegs tapped where you can try different um craft beers. Wow,

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Speaker 1: it really gets in outdoors. It is kind of cool

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Speaker 1: that it's pretty fun, pretty fun. So what do you

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Speaker 1: Kennisius Fairfield tonight. I've got there's four home games left

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Speaker 1: for the Griffs. I am a season ticket holder. The

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Speaker 1: these are my last two chances to see Oh just

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Speaker 1: wife's saying, really, and we're going to games Friday and

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Speaker 1: that many tickets. Yeah, we have Valentine's Day yesterday, come on,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of season ticket holders, I'm I'm at the Saves tonight, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: making an appearance. I think at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: But I'm trying to make it well, you should need

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Speaker 1: I got I got house guests, you know, and so

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Speaker 1: I mean something to come up. May something may come

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Speaker 1: up that is more important. So Harry our weekend in

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Speaker 1: right the weather as bleak as it is, as great

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Speaker 1: as it is, you keep going same thing with our show.

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Speaker 1: It's a quiet it's a little quiet around here at

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Speaker 1: one Deals Drive. We know that we're off to the

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Speaker 1: Combine in two weeks, less than two weeks now, we'll

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be an Indie right, yep, that's it, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So our first Combine show is Wednesday, February twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: general overview of the Bills. Joe's written and produced some

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Speaker 1: As a result. It's a little better today. Enough of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. These are the big dates in NFL offseason. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's an important offseason for a variety of reasons. The

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Speaker 1: One of our staffers, JJ Turto said in passing the

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. That's what makes last offseason more critically important

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Speaker 1: to the Bills. In this year. It's interesting too, because

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Speaker 1: you got to think, well, you got to know this

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Speaker 1: question centers on how good you think Josh Allen is.

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Speaker 1: If you think he is the guy, no, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. He's gonna be this quarterback, the team's quarterback

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Speaker 1: for ten years into his second contract. We're gonna ride

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Speaker 1: him until he can't play anymore, and he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: this team to the playoffs. Ultimately to a super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff, and sky's the limit. Super Bowl championships,

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff, multiple playoff runs, championship, all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: If you think he's a guy that has that, is

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Speaker 1: that caliber of player is gonna be, then last year

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Speaker 1: has to be more important. Ye. But if he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good guy, a guy who is gonna play

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Speaker 1: well and do all of that stuff, but maybe not

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Speaker 1: be a guy like that carries the team on his back,

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Speaker 1: maybe not Aaron Rodgers, but certainly a guy like maybe

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger who has always had a really good defense,

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Speaker 1: a good running game, a good organization around him, a

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Speaker 1: team first mentality where he's been a centerpiece. But with

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Speaker 1: a team that's gott Levon Bell and Antonio Brown some

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Speaker 1: of these other stars that ostensibly will emerge from the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's free agent market and from their draft classes,

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Speaker 1: then it's not so clear cut. It's not so clear cut.

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Speaker 1: If if you think you know Josh Allen's gonna be

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Speaker 1: an absolute superstar who can win with a substandard roster,

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Speaker 1: then yeah, there's no question last year is the most

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Speaker 1: important offseason maybe in the franchise's history. And then but

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Speaker 1: if he's gonna be a good quarterback, then he's gonna

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Speaker 1: need a lot of help. And that puts the idess

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Speaker 1: back on this one, I think, because it's where you

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Speaker 1: strike that balance. Is is it gonna be all Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen going forward or is it gonna be this team

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Speaker 1: mentality going forward? And does that mean this team still

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Speaker 1: has to be built around him? There's no question we

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Speaker 1: all know that this team has holes, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get better around him with more talent. Give him some

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Speaker 1: help outside, give him some help up front. Get another

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Speaker 1: edge rusher, you know, I mean, you name your thin

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Speaker 1: Get more depth around him for when injuries happened, Get

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Speaker 1: him a tight end. When all these pieces start to

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Speaker 1: fly in off the free agent mark it or out

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Speaker 1: of the draft, you know, then this becomes one of

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Speaker 1: those teams that you know, hey, we feel like this

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Speaker 1: is a this is a playoff team. In the first

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Speaker 1: month of the season, you go out there and you

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Speaker 1: start looking like a team that's gonna be tough to

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Speaker 1: beat for the entire year. Then I think this offseason

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Speaker 1: does increase in importance. Is this Bills offseason more important

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Speaker 1: than last year? On the tweet sheet from Andrew North,

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Speaker 1: he says, yes, it's more important because finally you actually

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Speaker 1: have some structure beginning to form. You have what is

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Speaker 1: to be your possible franchise quarterback in Josh Allen. Now

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Speaker 1: you just have to build around him in this team

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Speaker 1: will go places. Again, that argument, I think proves the

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Speaker 1: opposite of what you're trying to argue when you say

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Speaker 1: you have structure in place because you have Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: potential franchise quarterback. I believe by saying that, you're really

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Speaker 1: saying last year was more important. Okay, Linda Jay tweets

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Speaker 1: this in finding a franchise quarterback was more important last year.

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Speaker 1: Now need supporting players. That's my position. Finding a potential

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback last year made last offseason critically important, more

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Speaker 1: important than supporting players around. You have to go and

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Speaker 1: and you're right, all these almost all right down the line.

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Speaker 1: They all say that, yeah, you have to say yes,

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Speaker 1: which means they do think this year's more important. And

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Speaker 1: then they go on to say, you drafted your quarterback

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Speaker 1: last year. Now it's time to snag weapons around him,

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Speaker 1: surround him with we have assets and money to do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how it pans out. That's from Doug Briggs.

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Speaker 1: All these people were thinking the exact same thing as you, Murph,

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Speaker 1: and they're unwilling to say that this offseason is less

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Speaker 1: important than last year, and it isn't. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: it's not important, because we all obviously say it is.

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Speaker 1: But the heavy lifting has been done because of the

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Speaker 1: quarterback thinks. I think about think about them, the movement

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Speaker 1: and the macinate, the machinations of the trades, the free agents.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't get the players, the swapping back and forth

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Speaker 1: for the whole offseason to get up to number Remember

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Speaker 1: they got up to number twelve, they were twenty, then

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Speaker 1: they got up to number twelve, then they jumped up

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Speaker 1: to twelve to seven and that was players and picks

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Speaker 1: and they were they were, you know, grabbing their hair

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Speaker 1: hoping that this worked out and it did. I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about that offseason, what they were going through. There's

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Speaker 1: four guys to move up to number three, I mean right,

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Speaker 1: And it's funny too because we never know until now

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Speaker 1: it's twelve months later. Now there were four guys. Everybody

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Speaker 1: was Lamar Jackson was kind of a throw in. He

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Speaker 1: could be in the first round just because the other

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Speaker 1: four guys may go quick or whatever. So then he

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Speaker 1: you know, it's Baker Mayfield. And who's Baker Mayfield gonna

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Speaker 1: go first? I don't know. I think they like Sam

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Speaker 1: Darneld Moore. I don't know. Josh Allen's got the physical

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Speaker 1: number one pick overall talent, but he's a little inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: We don't know about him. Who is it gonna be

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Speaker 1: where we're gonna get one? Were the Giant's gonna take

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Speaker 1: a quarterback instead of se Quon Barkley at number two?

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Speaker 1: All of this stuff and then the Browns take Nick

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Speaker 1: Chubb and the Broncos decide they're staying where they're you know,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff happens. It was a monumental offseason last

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. I mean, you go back, you could

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Speaker 1: write a book on that offseason about what it meant,

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Speaker 1: particularly when some of these quarterbacks come to fruition. Some

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Speaker 1: of them are they turn into what they look like

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Speaker 1: they're going to turn into that that's it's like a

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Speaker 1: It's not as big, but it's kind of like the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three quarterback class. Almost There were seven guys

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Three of them are in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of fame. That's that's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. And this

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Speaker 1: draft class, you know this, at this early early stage

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Speaker 1: of their development, they're headed that way. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's a question we're gonna talk about all day. Is

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Speaker 1: this Bill's offseason more critical, more important than last year?

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Speaker 1: I think not. You may think so, and we can

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Speaker 1: discuss on Twitter on the phones eight three five fifty

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Speaker 1: until three one eight eight five. One question for you,

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Speaker 1: and and I don't want to derail our Twitter poll,

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Speaker 1: but do you think this offseason is going to be

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Speaker 1: easier for the front office? Yeah, because they're built for it, right,

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Speaker 1: They're built to pick players. They're different, a little bit

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Speaker 1: different with the addition to a couple of guys they have,

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Speaker 1: they have the quarterback in place, which I think makes

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Speaker 1: it easier, right, but now it is, but easier now

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Speaker 1: it is what they were all trained to do. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to train to It's hard to get training as

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Speaker 1: a as a horse trader. Right, pick for this player,

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Speaker 1: for that, send this player and a pick, get this

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Speaker 1: pick back. Dude, you know all of us. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to train for that. But it's much easier. And all

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Speaker 1: these guys in the room are all built to go

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Speaker 1: out and look at a player to say yes he's

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Speaker 1: a player or no, he's not a player. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? This is what they're built for, evaluating

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Speaker 1: players and picking them. I don't know how you know

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Speaker 1: that if we trade this guy for that? You know

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Speaker 1: That's what last offseason was all about. And man, oh man,

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Speaker 1: they pulled it off. Well. I mean, I go back

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Speaker 1: to the quotes from Brandon Bean just a month ago

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Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl when he said, this is a

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Speaker 1: totally different set up for us. Last year, we're here

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Speaker 1: looking at quarterbacks and talking about quarterbacks. Now we can

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Speaker 1: we can look around a little bit. He said, it's

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Speaker 1: easier to look around. Will base that they didn't leave

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Speaker 1: the offensive line drills all said over there like they

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Speaker 1: were offensive line coaches watching. Hey, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: offensive line when we come back. Eric Woods scheduled to

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Speaker 1: join us, a long time Bill's center, former first round

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Speaker 1: draft pick. Where is the NFL when it comes to

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Speaker 1: offensive line play and offensive line structure? We'll talk with

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Speaker 1: Eric about that, a question they came up yesterday. Come

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Speaker 1: on bad for that, and we'll also continue our discussion

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Speaker 1: about this offseason. How critical it is for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot to discuss today this Friday on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Collat of Health. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back. It is One Bill's Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive from Gray Cloudy Orchard Park, New York.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker joining us on the subway fresh

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Speaker 1: take out line. A guy who knows the thing about

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Speaker 1: these types of days. Former Bills offensive linemen for a

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Speaker 1: total of eight years, nine years. First round draft pick

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, made the Pro Bowl in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Our buddy Eric Wood on the line with

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Speaker 1: us all or Eric's John Murphy and Steam tasks were

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Speaker 1: up here. You know what these February days are like

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Speaker 1: up here in Western New York, don't you? Yeah? And

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I'm joining you from a

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Speaker 1: cold and cloudy, gray Louisville day, So it's not much

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Speaker 1: different down here. Not much different. Hey, before we get

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Speaker 1: to what we want to talk to you about, and

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Speaker 1: this is not a way of gloating, but were you

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Speaker 1: at the arena last week or no, just the other

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Speaker 1: day when Duke came back from twenty three down to

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Speaker 1: beat Louisville. I was there in attendance. What did you think?

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Speaker 1: You know, it was just it was a terrible collapse

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Speaker 1: in Louisville. Has struggled with the press all year, and

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Speaker 1: they've struggled with long athletic teams. They got beat by

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Speaker 1: Kentucky pretty bad. They lost the North They've split with

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. But the longer, more athletic teams have given

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Speaker 1: them fits, especially when they've gone to a press with

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Speaker 1: some smaller guards. So they better figure it out quick

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Speaker 1: or else a lot teams are going to attack them

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Speaker 1: that way. But you know, my opinion, they're having a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal year and what a coaching job by Chris Mack.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's exactly what all the listeners here

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Speaker 1: are really looking forward to through this conversation talking about

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I apologize, Steve takeover. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go no. Eric. You know, one of the things that's

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Speaker 1: been on the docket here in Buffalo is the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: They struggled throughout the first part of the year. They

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Speaker 1: kind of got it together and made, you know, passable

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Speaker 1: improvement during the regular season, but they're fixing the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, has been the number one priority for

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who watched the Bills closely. You

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Speaker 1: came in as a number one draft pick. You were there,

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Speaker 1: and you're the guy next to you. Andy Levitri was

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Speaker 1: a number two draft pick. You guys came in, got

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Speaker 1: plugged in right away. What do you think is the

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Speaker 1: most important thing for a young offensive lineman making that

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Speaker 1: jump is what's the most important thing? You know? Hopefully,

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Speaker 1: well you're getting mixed in with him, some great veterans

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Speaker 1: and get under a great coaching staff. I got lucky.

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Speaker 1: I came in under Sean Coogler. Guys like job, Jeff

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Speaker 1: hand Gardner, Brad Butler took me under their wing SETH

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Speaker 1: McKinney was there. We had some veterans on the team

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Speaker 1: that that kind of showed us the ropes because it's

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Speaker 1: an adjustment, and probably the biggest adjustment is in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: everybody is good, and it doesn't matter if it's a

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Speaker 1: start or a backup, if it's week one or week seventeen,

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Speaker 1: everybody's good. And when you come from college, you're so

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Speaker 1: used to playing guys week and a week out that

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Speaker 1: you're just better then. And you know you might have

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Speaker 1: a couple of games a year where you play a

641
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Speaker 1: future NFL player, but but you're just not going to

642
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Speaker 1: play him every week. And in the NFL, it can

643
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: be a tough adjustment, and you know, it's getting harder

644
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: and harder for these guys coming out of college. You know,

645
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot of them aren't putting their hand in the

646
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: ground anymore, and they're in these spread offenses, so it's

647
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: tougher and there's less contact in practice, and there's all

648
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: these things set up that kind of work against the

649
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, which is part of the reason I'm so

650
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: excited about this AAFL, because I feel like there's guys

651
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: that just don't really get a chance to develop in

652
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: the league and they get kicked to the curve before

653
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: they could develop. And maybe, you know, having a true

654
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: breeding ground where they're playing real football and can get

655
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: some true film can help help you know future offensive

656
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: line play in the NFL. Eric we got into this

657
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: obviously the Bills are in need of offensive linemen. We

658
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: believe they're interested in offensive lineman both in free agency

659
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: and in the draft coming up over the next few

660
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: months here. But we got talking about it, and I'm

661
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: beginning to wonder if maybe we've entered an era where

662
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: don't count on offensive lineman to make big contributions their

663
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: first year because of the differences you talk about spread

664
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Speaker 1: offensive particular college game to the pro game, that maybe

665
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: we're in an era where you just draft a big

666
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: guy and you work with them and development and hopefully

667
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: in a couple of years he can play for you.

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Speaker 1: Is that overstating it? What do you think? That's probably

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Speaker 1: overstating it a little bit. You know, a guy like

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Speaker 1: Deon documents in a couple of years ago at the

671
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: second rounder, and I thought Dion had the necessary skills

672
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: and size to be able to translate to the NFL immediately,

673
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: but he also had the right tenacity. And I hate

674
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: to be you know, I'm only thirty two years old.

675
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: I hate to be the back in my day type,

676
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: but you know, I just feel like guys are coming

677
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: out of college with maybe a touch less tenacity overall.

678
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: But then there are the Dion Dawkins type. So and shoot,

679
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: you saw Quinn Nelson come in last year for the

680
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Colts and set the league on fire. So those guys

681
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: are out there. Maybe you gotta find them. Maybe you

682
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: got to do your homework a little bit more. But man,

683
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: it's so funny with offensive lineman because the biggest, strongest,

684
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: most athletic guys are not always your most successful offensive lineman.

685
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: There's so much technique course that goes in, and the

686
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: mental side is so big because you have to work

687
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: in these complex offenses and you got all five guys

688
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: up front that need to work as one one, and

689
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: you have these these ridiculous split schemes that everybody's coming

690
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: up with nowadays that they're so much mental to it

691
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: that you can't just say, hey, we're gonna get this

692
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: big guy and develop him for a few years, and shoot,

693
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: by the time you develop him and put him in

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00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: in this third or fourth year, m will you be be

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Speaker 1: ready to hit free agency and go get paid. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the best answer is, um,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I think I think for a healthy

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00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: offensive line you always need a mix of veterans, a

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00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: mix of some young guys that are that are going

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Speaker 1: to contribute and play, and then your project types. And

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Speaker 1: I think that that keeps you, um, you know, with

702
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Speaker 1: a with a functioning, high quality group for a long

703
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: time and not just hey we're gonna throw a bunch

704
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: of money into free agency. We're gonna play a bunch

705
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: of young guys, or we're gonna develop a bunch of guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think you just need a great mix. Yeah, Eric,

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about that. The Bills

708
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: made a change on their offensive line and the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson comes in. You've worked with him at earlier

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Speaker 1: in your career here in Buffalo. Give us two things. One,

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Speaker 1: give us an insight as to how big a difference

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Speaker 1: coaching at this level can make. And also about Bobby

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Speaker 1: Johnson in particular. Yeah, I think coaching can make a

714
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: big impact. You see, you see what Kromer did in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: When Cromer is the offensive line coach year, we you know,

716
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: there's other factors, but we leave the league in rushing

717
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: a couple of years in a row. And then he

718
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: goes out to the LA Rams and and yeah, they

719
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: bring in Andrew Whitworth and they get they get some

720
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: other different pieces. But um, you know, he goes out

721
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: there and now now they're running the ball down people's

722
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Speaker 1: throats too. I believe they were maybe second in the

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Speaker 1: league and rushing this year. Um, But regardless, a coaching

724
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: can make a big difference, um And but but you

725
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: know the offensive line struggle last year, and I don't

726
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: think it's all on one, you know, I think you

727
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: bring in a new OC and and maybe maybe that

728
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: wasn't the right fit. I'm not exactly sure. I'm not

729
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: in the inner workings up there anymore. But Bobby can't

730
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: come in and make a difference. And you know he's

731
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna come in and hopefully be able to

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Speaker 1: have an impact on who they bring it. You know,

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00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: there's no secret the Bills are going to bring into

734
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: offensive linement they already have, so he's gonna have some

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00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: saying to that and it could look like a much

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00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: different room and hopefully the product on the field text

737
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: year is improved. Eric, And obviously I believe coaching is

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Speaker 1: a difference maker. As you say, I wonder how much

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Speaker 1: of a role scheme plays into it. And I think

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00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: back to two seasons ago when the Bills got off

741
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: to a rough start running the football, trying to run

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00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: a different style of offensive line play, and then can

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00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: you guys kind of switch back to what you were

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00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: more comfortable with. How much of a role does that play?

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00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: Fitting the scheme to the guys you have and are

746
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: we in an era in the NFL where maybe a

747
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: zone blocking scheme is what most people go with, most

748
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: people think will be successful. You know, you see a

749
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: lot of zone blocking on Sundays, but even guys like

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Speaker 1: that are from the Shanahan tree or even implementing some

751
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: different different run schemes each Sunday that you'll see, you know,

752
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: I think gay Ball has a great background coming from

753
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: the Patriots in some offenses he's been involved with, of

754
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: just being multiple in each week. Maybe this team doesn't

755
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: defend the power, well, maybe we address that, Maybe we

756
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: go after that more this week. Maybe it's the zone scheme.

757
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: You know that that kind of makes you a jack

758
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: of all trade the master of none. But in the

759
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: same sense, you can always attack defenses the way you

760
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: want to, and that's what we did under Greg Roman.

761
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: We were very successful, and that's kind of what we

762
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: made the switch to with Dennison. And at times last

763
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: year I felt like the Bills ran the ball effectively,

764
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: just not consistent enough. And so a part of that's

765
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: offensive line play and the new system and everything else.

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00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: So hopefully, hopefully a big jump in the run game

767
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: this year. Other than changing out all the players. What's

768
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: the fastest and best way to improve an offensive line? Man,

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00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: that's a great question, you know, Um, you know, the

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00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: fastest way to improve an offensive line would be to

771
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: cut down on penalties, cut down on negative plays, play

772
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: with the lead more. You know, all those generally will

773
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: lead to better offensive line play because you're not putting

774
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: as much pressure on them. Maybe if you run the

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00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: maybe you have just more effective first and ten plays

776
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: to where you're not in a lot of third and

777
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: longs where you keep the defensive defense guessing on second down.

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00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, all those things can can help the offensive

779
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: line play. I don't think I think more you're saying,

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00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: how do we improve you know, just that unit? And um,

781
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think you do need to bring in

782
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: maybe a few more pieces, create some more competition there. Um,

783
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: hopefully Bobby Johnson can um, you know, reinvigorate some of

784
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: the guys that were there. You know, like I said,

785
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm not here to take shots of one. I have

786
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: a tremendous round of respect for him, but hopefully, um,

787
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: maybe Bobby can just up these guys game a little

788
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: bit himself. But kind of final question here, Eric is

789
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: sort of an overview question. But Steve and I've been

790
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: talking about this for a couple of days. Why does

791
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: it seem like most teams, and at least most fan

792
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: bases for teams, most teams believe that our offensive line

793
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: is not good. We gotta get better. There might be

794
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: two or three notable exceptions, but everywhere you look around

795
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: the league, it seems like people complain about their offensive line.

796
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: Why is that, Well, it's always easy to blame the

797
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: offensive line, and uh, you know, that's the way it's

798
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: always been, and a lot of that comes from a

799
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: lot of what we do upfront is just misunderstood. It's

800
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: hard to blame a specific guy. I mean there there

801
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: there were times in my career where I would get

802
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: blamed or something in the paper, you know, through a

803
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: tweet or whatever it may be, and that wasn't my fault.

804
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: I was trying to help out someone else. I got beat,

805
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: but I was the last guy that either laid eyes

806
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: on him or laid a hand on him, and you know,

807
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: it's my fault, you know. So it's it's just hard

808
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: and it's a misunderstood area up front, So it's easy

809
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: to play blame. But but but I think in general, Um,

810
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: these last few years, offensive line play across the league

811
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Speaker 1: is down. And like I said it, you know, there's

812
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: there's a number of reasons for that. Um, it's not

813
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: just one, but it has to do with college offense.

814
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: That has to do with the limit amount of contact

815
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL. UM, in practices, the amount of time

816
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: you can practice. UM. You know, all of that affects it,

817
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: and then it leads to and down problem. I also think,

818
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, you start paying these these edge pass rushers

819
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: so much money, these defensive tackle as well. You know,

820
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: guys like um, maybe a DeMarcus Lawrence. You know, he's

821
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: probably twenty pounds away from being a wide receiver. But

822
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: but now it's it's hey, put some weight on him

823
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: and let's let him run the edge and get a

824
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: bunch of sacks. And and now it's cool to be

825
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman and an edge pass rusher because you're

826
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna get paid so much. And that also affects UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, the talent on the defensive line also affects

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Speaker 1: how well the off that's a line of playing. Eric,

829
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: thanks for this SI helping us think through this offensive

830
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: line question. We know the Bills are going to be

831
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: acquiring some more of them over the next couple of months,

832
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: and your input. Input is very valuable. Thank you very much.

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00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: Have a great weekend now my pleasure you guys do.

834
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: Thanks Eric Wood, nine years Bill's offensive lineman, former first

835
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: round pickpack in two thousand and nine joining us on

836
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Speaker 1: the Subway Fresh Take hotline presented by Subway Restaurants probab

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Speaker 1: to be locally owned and operating. Did that clear things

838
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: up for you now? Either, I gotta think about some

839
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: of the stuff, and he's it's interesting too. I said,

840
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: how do you get your offensive line better? And he

841
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: kind of said, you know, stay out a third and long.

842
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, wow, it's interesting because he has

843
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: a different perspective knowing that all the things that go

844
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: into it, and we got heard some of it. If

845
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: you heard that interview, is pretty insightful because he runs

846
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: the gamut of all the things that affect how good

847
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: an offensive line is, from technique, from youth experience, nastiness,

848
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: talent coaching, scheme point on the field that the talent

849
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: you're facing, all of that stuff goes into the mix

850
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: and it's never just one thing. And I think that's

851
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: the real issue. It's never just one thing that makes

852
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: your offense, offensive line good or bad, or a good

853
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: game bad game. It's about you know, it's from the

854
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: sound of him, it's a dozen things every game that

855
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: affect how good they play. And that's you know, I

856
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Speaker 1: don't know, what do you what do you do? You

857
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: throw your hands out, I go, what do you do? Yeah?

858
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: You know, I mean you gotta you're trying to get

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00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: the coaching right, trying to get the scheme right, trying

860
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: to get the plays right. Well after that, what do

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00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: you do? I do think, And part of it I

862
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: thought before even talking to Eric. I do think the

863
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Speaker 1: way the game is playing in college now, and the

864
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: way the offensive line plays in college is a big

865
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: reason why it's hard to translate to the NFL, and

866
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: it looks bad. But I also agree with Eric when

867
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Speaker 1: he says we're misunderstood on the offensive line. Most people

868
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: don't understand what's supposed to happen, how it's supposed to happen,

869
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: and so it's easy to throw out blame may many times,

870
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Speaker 1: and I'm guilty of it. You may be as well.

871
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: We're throwing out blame for the wrong to the wrong guy,

872
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: the wrong absolutely every everybody does it, everybody, and I

873
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: think one of them and I was thinking about this too.

874
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: It's you know, a football fan and the casual fan

875
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: will do it. They'll they'll blame the offensive line just

876
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: because they know that if anybody else says anything about it,

877
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's so it's so mysterious, all the

878
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: stuff that is in there, what goes on, all the

879
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: different things that we just mentioned and that Eric mentioned

880
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: that I just referred to, all the different dozens of

881
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: aspects that make it good or bad. It's hard to

882
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: quantify those, so it's easy to criticize them knowing that

883
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna knock your criticism over because they don't know

884
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: any better than you do. You know, and if if

885
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: you're not running the football, it's because of the offensive line.

886
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: If you're not, you know, if you and it's it's

887
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: and they get all thrown in together, and it might

888
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: not be the whole offensive line. It might be one guy,

889
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: might be two guys, It might be the coach, might

890
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: be the scheme, it could be any could be the

891
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: specific play call, or it could be the defense they're

892
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: running against. So all of those things get rolled into

893
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: offensive line and it's and Eric's right, it's not fair

894
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: all the time, but it's an easy crutch for every

895
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: football fan and every analyst too. I mean, you're you're right.

896
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: I do the same thing. It's like, at the offensive

897
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: line's got to play better. Well, what's that mean? Well,

898
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: it's that's where you kind of go down the slippery slope.

899
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Speaker 1: Who knows what it means. We thank Eric for joining us,

900
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Eric Would. We got more to discuss, including is this

901
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: offseason more important than the last offseason was for the Bills?

902
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: What do you think? We'll get back to your calls

903
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: and tweets when we return One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. We're off to a pretty

906
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: good start on this Friday afternoon. Great discussion with Eric Would, again,

907
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: I got I might even go back and listen to

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00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: it again, Steve, and you can do that too at

909
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot com, because he had a lot of

910
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: interesting things to say about offensive line player. I'm not

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00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: going to recap it here. We're talking a little bit

912
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: about this offseason for the Bills. Some people think this

913
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: is a ridiculous question. I don't, and it comes up

914
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: because it was, It's been discussed and our you know,

915
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: we have a bunch of people here who talk about

916
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: the Bills pretty much all day every day. Somebody said

917
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: to me the other day, one of our producers, JJ Taredo,

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Speaker 1: would you ask me, do you think this offseason is

919
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: the most important offseason of Brendan Bean's Brandon Mean's career.

920
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: I said, no, I think last offseason was to get

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Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback. What do you think is this offseason

922
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: more important than last year for the Buffalo Bills. It's

923
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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll, it's what we're discussing on the phones.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three fifty toll Free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Robin west Seneca has a

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Speaker 1: thought on this. Hello, Rob, go ahead, Hey guys, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Okay good? I'm gonna say that this

928
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: year's offseason is more important. And I say this because

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Speaker 1: you look at last season and how basically what I thought,

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00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: after trading, trading Cordy Gland and trading some of our

931
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: pieces like Tyler Taylor, I thought that Brandon Bean was

932
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: hitting in the refe button to set up for this

933
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: year knowing that a we're going to be under the cap. Clearly.

934
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Speaker 1: I know we found Josh Allen, but you know what

935
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: you need the weapons now to put a ron Josh Shallen,

936
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Speaker 1: plus you know the offensive line, probably depth in defense

937
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: or you know, running back wise. I mean that's what

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Speaker 1: I think last year was less important because, like I said,

939
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Speaker 1: we were hitting the reset button to set it up

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00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: for this year, and I think this year is much

941
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: more important. Yeah, that's good. That's that's a good debate point.

942
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you um to bolster that, I think

943
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: you would be still sitting here with this much pressure

944
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: if you had not if you had or had not

945
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: gotten Josh Allen to say, we got shut out on

946
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks last year in the draft and we ended up

947
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: taking get a quarterback. If they did not get a

948
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: quarterback last year, this obvioseason would be about get a quarterback.

949
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be about wide receivers or or what would what

950
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: would be? It would be about get your quarterback. That

951
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: would the win expectations be though as well? I mean

952
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: they'd be there just like this. They're three years into

953
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: the Sean McDermott's era, two years into the Brandon Bean era,

954
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: the pressure would still be there to take a big

955
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: step forward. Yeah, and so that so that diminishes the

956
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: importance of last year because it's still here this year. Now.

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00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Last year was was a big win, but that doesn't

958
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: make this year less. I mean, this year is a

959
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: year again. Josh, that was the big step. Yeah, and

960
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this too. For me, there's a lot

961
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: of things about last year because it was I can't

962
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: get over because for years and years and years you

963
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: never saw anybody do any of this trading and stuff

964
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: like that. They tried it, they did it, and they

965
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: do it once every three years you'd see a trade

966
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: where a guy would go here for draft picks and

967
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: a quality player. You saw it constantly last year, and

968
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean was at the front of it. These guys

969
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: were I thought the way they handled last offseason was brilliant.

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00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean it, and a lot of people are. You

971
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: know a lot of people you always get the fringe

972
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: elements they go they should fire Brandon being because he

973
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: got rid of Marcel Darius and Sammy Watkins. I'm like,

974
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: come on, nobody says that. Listen, you haven't seen my timeline.

975
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: So you always get those lunatics, those lunatics out there

976
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: that are like, as soon as the GM does one

977
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: thing they don't agree with, they should be fired. Because

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00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: they liked Marcel Darius and thought that one hundred million

979
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: dollar contract was a bargain and Sammy Watkins was the

980
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: greatest athlete to ever be in the team and they

981
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: should never have gotten rid of a good player like that.

982
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: All of this stuff goes into that mix about you

983
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: know what they think that the general manager is. And

984
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: for me, I thought last year the way they did

985
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: it step by step with players and picks and quality

986
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: players too. And the caller Rob just said it, Corty

987
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: Glenn and Tyrod Taylor, those two quality NFL that's only

988
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: because it wasn't because he didn't have the abilities, because

989
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: he didn't fit, he wasn't an important He's starting left

990
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: tackle for the Cincinnati Bengals this year, started sixteen games

991
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: for them. He's a starting left tackle in the National

992
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: Football He's pretty, he's pretty, he's pretty well. Yeah, but

993
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: you know what, there's a lot of people who wouldn't

994
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: have the courage to cut a guy like that. I

995
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: don't care whether he can start or not, can raise

996
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: the value of all you want, but I don't get

997
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: your point. What's your point? How can you not get

998
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 1: my point that Corty Glenn is a quality NFL tackle

999
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: left tackle. I th I think he's a marginal He's okay,

1000
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: they don't miss him. Bills don't miss him just because

1001
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: the Bills don't miss him, and they got Dion Dawkins,

1002
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: they drafted Dion Dockins. I don't road I'm saying it.

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00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you a lot of general managers in the past,

1004
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: both on this franchise and other franchise around the league,

1005
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: would not have the gumption or the courage to a

1006
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: guy of the quality of Cordy Glenn or even Tyrod Taylor. Now,

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00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: how do we get back to the question here? Is that?

1008
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: My point is I thought Brandon I think Brandon Bean

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00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: has handled last offseason extremely well. So do I That

1010
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: was my point? Okay, So I think this offseason that

1011
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: doesn't make up the last offseason more important than is them.

1012
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: But I do think it proves his ability to do it.

1013
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've answered which way you believe.

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00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: Is this offseason this year twenty nineteen more important than

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00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen offseason? What do you believe, because you're

1016
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: confusing me, I'm gonna say, yeah, I think it might

1017
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: be this year more important. I think someone with the

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00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: franchise potential franchise quarterback coming last year, I think so.

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00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't. Well, it's gonna be interesting because because the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: whether he's here or not, whether they get Josh or not,

1021
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Speaker 1: doesn't change how important this year is. That doesn't supersede

1022
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: this distinction. People get caught up and say, well they,

1023
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: in fact, there's a tweet right here from Frank now

1024
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: or never, double triple exclamation points, win ten games next year,

1025
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: it's their third year. No more blaming the past or

1026
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: telling us to be patient for the future. Second question,

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00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: it's Brandon Second that is not applicable to the question.

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00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: Do I believe the twenty nineteen season is more important

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00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: than the twenty eighteen season? I do offseason we're talking about.

1030
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: I believe the twenty eighteen off season, with the acquisition

1031
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: of the franchise potential franchise quarterback, is more important than

1032
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: this offseason twenty nineteen. I kind of tend to agree

1033
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: with you because I like Josh. I know, I know,

1034
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let me just let me walk myself through

1035
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: a couple more breaks. By the end of the show,

1036
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: I'll have my mind made up because this see listen,

1037
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: because look, because look, even listen, our our listeners have

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00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: have voted, and they're like, way in favor of this

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00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: year being more important. Right, it's eighty one eighty twenty

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Speaker 1: eighty one. If you're a voting and you may want

1041
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: to revote, do you understand we're talking about offseason. I

1042
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: believe the twenty nineteen season starting September ninth or whatever

1043
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: it is, is much more important. Yeah, I believe this

1044
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: season is more important this offseason. I would go for

1045
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: last year. All right, we're gonna take a break. Bill

1046
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: Barnwell is gonna join it. We're gonna ask him this question.

1047
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: He's a pretty astute observer of the Bills in the NFL.

1048
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell from ESPN dot Com standing by to join us. Next,

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00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,479
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Speaker 1: the longest in franchise history. Tonight, seven o'clock. Sabers and Rangers.

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00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: All kinds of college basketball locally Tonight. The UB Bulls,

1063
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: ranked twenty fifth in the country, are on the road

1064
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: at Toledo. You mean Toledo the top two teams in

1065
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: the Mid American Conference in terms of wins. They're high

1066
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: scoring teams too. You be handed Toledo one of their

1067
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 1: four losses this season with a one ten to eighty

1068
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 1: win in Buffalo back on January eighth. Buffalo with twenty

1069
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: one wins, three losses, nine and two in conference play.

1070
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Speaker 1: UB at Toledo tonight, seven o'clock. Cannesius is home tonight

1071
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: at seven o'clock. Home against Fairfield. Their Griffs won a

1072
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: couple of the road games last weekend at Ryder at

1073
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Saint Peter's. They return home this weekend for two games,

1074
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: and it starts tonight against Fairfield. And after a two

1075
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: game weekend down the road, the Purple Legals of Niagara

1076
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: back at Gallagher Center tonight seven o'clock. They play Manhattan College.

1077
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: And Tonio brown saga continues with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He

1078
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: will not be with Steelers owner Art Rooney. He's in Florida.

1079
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: Rooney is where he owns a home. He had hoped

1080
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: to meet with Brown, according to NFL Network, but Brown

1081
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: has no plans to meet with Rooney. Brown did not

1082
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: play in the regular season finale after skipping a walk

1083
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: through practice, and that situation seems to be coming to

1084
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 1: a head, but no meeting between those two. The Detroit

1085
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: Lions I've worked out former Bills and Patriots running back

1086
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: Mike Gillisly. He worked out with the Lions yesterday. He

1087
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: spent four games with the Saints. After being cut by

1088
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: the Patriots after training camp, Mike Gillisley got to work

1089
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: out with the Detroit Lions, Cincinnati Bengal so looking for

1090
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator for a new head coach, Jack Taylor.

1091
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: He's been stiff armed a couple of times in this

1092
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: attempt to find one, and the Alliance of American Football

1093
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: tried to bring Colin Kaepernick in, according to Bill Polian,

1094
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: the founder of the Alliance. Poullian says they reached out

1095
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: to Kaepernick, but source says Kaepernick wanted twenty million dollars

1096
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: or more to consider playing with the league, which made

1097
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: its debut last weekend. Hmm interesting. John Murphy's Teaton Tasher.

1098
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: It's always interested on the show, isn't it, Stevens pretty

1099
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: much pretty much? Yeah, for me, not so much. Yeah

1100
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: whatever yesterday, Yeah, that's February. That's what happened. Yeah, we

1101
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: got a great guest done with us right now. He's

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Speaker 1: a staff writer to ESPN that covers the NFL. He's

1103
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: the host of the Bill Barnwell Show podcast. He's been

1104
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: with ESPN for the last eight years. Happy to have

1105
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: our friend Bill Barnwell on the line with us the

1106
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: Subway First Take Kline. Hello, Bill, John Murphy's team tasker

1107
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: him Buffalo. How you doing you getting through February? Okay, Hey, guys,

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00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm hanging in there. I've been managed to avoid most

1109
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: of the bad weather. I hope you guys are doing well,

1110
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, we're doing good now. One of the

1111
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: things that happened during the week, and we're kind of

1112
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: in the radio business talking about NFL, you kind of

1113
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: wait for stuff like this to happen. Joe Flacco, former NFL,

1114
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: former Super Bowl MVP, got traded to Denver. How do

1115
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: you grade that trade? I don't love it for the Broncos,

1116
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why. I think Joe Flacco Obviously

1117
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: we know what he can do. We saw him in

1118
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl run several years ago. It's been a

1119
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: long time though, it's been five or six years now,

1120
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: and he's been an adequate player at best over the

1121
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: course of that contract. And so from the Broncos perspective,

1122
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: is he upgrading case Keenan? Yeah, probably very slightly. But

1123
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: there's not a high there unless you're thinking he can

1124
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: be the guy he was five or six years ago,

1125
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: and I think he has to be in the perfect

1126
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: situation for that. Denver's not the perfect situation. And then

1127
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: the issue is that he's going to cost eighteen million dollars.

1128
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: I believe in Dave's salary on their cap this year.

1129
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: Broncos don't have a ton of cap space. They have

1130
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: some key free agents, Matt Paradise being the most notable

1131
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: in their star center and cutting case. Keeno's going to

1132
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: add ten million dollars to their indent money to their

1133
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: cap this year, so they're going to be paying a

1134
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: lot of money. The situation that might not be appreciably

1135
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: all that much different than the quarterback room they had

1136
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: a year ago. In a post you wrote about that

1137
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: trade bill, you gave them Broncos a greade, a letter

1138
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: grade of what deep plus, I guess. And you also

1139
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: had some interesting things to say about the guy who

1140
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: pulled the trigger for the Denver Broccos, John Elway. What

1141
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: do you make it? Always repeated attempts and essentially failures

1142
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: so far to find it and identify a quarterback for

1143
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: that team. This is a tough part for me right

1144
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: because I think about John Elway. He should know everything.

1145
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: He should. He's a gene's a He's an incredible he

1146
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: was a great player for a long time. I'm obviously

1147
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: a very smart guy, successful in business, successful with the Broncos,

1148
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. I mean, you know, He's made

1149
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: a lot of great decisions over the course of his

1150
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: tenure with Denver, and if anyone should know what they're

1151
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: talking about when it comes to getting quarterbacks, it should

1152
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: be John Elway. But you look at what's happened with him.

1153
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: He drafted brock Osweiler, and then he tried to resign

1154
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: brock Osweler but was outbid by the Texas. Think the

1155
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Broncos bit about twelve or thirteen million dollars a year

1156
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: in free agency on brock Oswaller. He ended up going

1157
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: to the Texans obviously did not work out there, traded

1158
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: up to draft Paxton Lynch in the first round. Paxon

1159
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: interned out to be a major league poor decision. Is

1160
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: no longer I believe on any NFL roster at the moment.

1161
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken. Caught after two years by the Broncos, Dreffer,

1162
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: Simey and their servants are I'm thick he was okay,

1163
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say. And then traded for

1164
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: a case Keenum and that did not Arco Super Bowl.

1165
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: So he's had an a sin in the internal keenom

1166
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: aside for very tall quarterbacks. He's gone after guys like

1167
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: Taxle Lynches I think six foot seven in that range,

1168
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: Brockoswiler again in that range, six foot seven and six

1169
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: foot eight, Joe Flaccos six six, So it's not surprising

1170
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: they would go after Joe Flacco. But I just you know,

1171
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: at this point, I don't know that you need that

1172
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: sort of archetypical, really tall, traditional quarterback in the modern NFL.

1173
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Speaker 1: And one more question about that trade that I have

1174
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: for you, Bill, What does the trade say about the

1175
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and in particular about the Ravens and Lamar Jackson. Well,

1176
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: I think obviously they're going to go at Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: going forward. You don't trade up for a guy on

1178
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: the bottom of the first round if you don't think

1179
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,479
Speaker 1: he's a viable starter. Obviously, the Chargers game was a mess.

1180
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: He'd not looked in that game. The offense didn't really

1181
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: have a plan B for when the running game got

1182
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: slowed down. But I think he has the entire offseason

1183
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: to practice, get some reps with the ones. They can

1184
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: work on that scheme, work on their familiarity and sort

1185
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: of playing things off of what they showed last year.

1186
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: And I think they're going to go out and get

1187
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: a backup who can fit in that schemes Lamar Jackson

1188
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: struggles or if he gets injured. I think Tyrod Taylor,

1189
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: soone who played in that scheme. Of course when Wain

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: Great Growman and when Tyro Taylor both in Buffalo makes

1191
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: total sense as a backup there. He's going to be

1192
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: a free agent. So wouldn't surprise me if they went

1193
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: out and signed Tyrod Taylor and had him mess the

1194
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: backup Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. Well, one of the things

1195
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: that everybody's doing now is pointing towards all these teams

1196
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: and the changes they're going to make in the offseason.

1197
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: How do you and you look at the Buffalo Bills

1198
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: here where we sit, how do you think they're going.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a lot of cap space, got

1200
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: a lot of draft picks, and last year they really

1201
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: wrangled their way up the draft ladder in order to

1202
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: get Josh Allen. They made a lot of moves dap

1203
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: Draft Day trades. In fact, you made you said they

1204
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: were some of the most impactful Draft Day trades. They

1205
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: made your list for the most impactful Draft Day trades

1206
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: last year. How do you think they're going to attack

1207
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: this offseason cool. I think they've been building up to

1208
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: this off season for a couple of years now, right, Steve.

1209
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: You think about all the moves they've made over the

1210
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: last two seasons, were about number one, clearing out cap space,

1211
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Speaker 1: getting rim of some of the contracts for guys in

1212
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: the years pass, but they didn't really think were very effective,

1213
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: and they've been pretty successful doing that. They went out

1214
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: and got their quarterback, Josh Allen, obviously still a work

1215
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: in progress. I think even Bill Stans would say showed

1216
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: some promising games. I think week seventeen he was very

1217
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: good in the final game of the season. Obviously excellent

1218
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: as scrambler and as a runner. Accuracy a big thing

1219
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: coming from out of school. Still an issue I think

1220
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: at the pro level, but still obviously extremely early to say.

1221
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: I think this offseason is about getting the pieces around

1222
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. You know they're going to have to add receivers.

1223
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: Offensive line is going to be a point of attention

1224
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: for them. The defense was excellent. This is a the

1225
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: second ranked defense in football at DVUA, which is my

1226
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: favorite stat for evaluating team performing. So they were excellent

1227
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Speaker 1: defense and they could be a playoff team if that

1228
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: offense takes a step forward. So I think at this

1229
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: point you're hoping that you can get the right people

1230
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: around Josh Allen and he takes a step forward in

1231
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: year two, suddenly this could be a very competitive football bill.

1232
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Speaker 1: Let me see if I gets you to dive into

1233
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: our discussion today about the Bills, because we talk about

1234
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: them every day here, five days a week, and we

1235
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: know this is an important offseason. Ten draft picks, tons

1236
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: of money to spend in free agency, and a lot

1237
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: of needs to fill. We know that about this year's Bills.

1238
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: But we're wondering, was last offseason more important to the

1239
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: Bills to identify, to maneuver in the draft and to

1240
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: eventually draft and start to develop that quarterback at that

1241
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: potential franchise quarterback. Was last offseason more important than this

1242
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: one for the Bills or vice versa? What do you think?

1243
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: I would say vice versa, and I think to your point,

1244
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: you know you're playing about going out and getting a

1245
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: quarterback that is the most important part of any rebuild.

1246
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: Of course, that a total sense. But last year it

1247
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: was almost like the Bills were playing with house money,

1248
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: you know where where they were in a building season

1249
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: and they were gonna you know, they were making moves

1250
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of the year saying, hey, well, we're

1251
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: not gonna make the playoffs this year, we're gonna try

1252
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: and build for the future. And then they kind of

1253
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: just snuck into the postseason. It was almost like they

1254
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: didn't think it was going to happen, and then it happens,

1255
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: and of course, obviously, yeah, you lose in the postseason,

1256
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: that's a bummer. But I think obviously those fans had

1257
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: every reason to be excited last offseason about this team,

1258
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: and so they kind of were in the playoff glow.

1259
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: They didn't really expect to kind of make these moves.

1260
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: They were still in the rebuilding process. So we're sort

1261
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: of a, like I said, playing with house money last year.

1262
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: I think this offseason they have to be better. And

1263
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: I think realistically, if they don't hit some of these

1264
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: moves this offseason, if they don't go out and get

1265
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: those weapons for Josh Allen, we're going to be sitting

1266
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: here in the twenty twenty season saying, hey, you know,

1267
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermots went a good job with the defense, Brandon

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Speaker 1: Beans do a good job of clearing out that cap space,

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Speaker 1: but when are they actually going to turn into tangible

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Speaker 1: young players to build around this quarterback and build around

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Speaker 1: this team. And I think that, you know, they have

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Speaker 1: to hit on some of those moves to make this team,

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Speaker 1: you know, sort of still like the taking a step

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Speaker 1: forward going into twenty twenty. Yeah, and we talk about

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Speaker 1: what they have to do, and let's picked players now

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Speaker 1: and we look up the free agent market coming up

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Speaker 1: is just around the corner of the Bills have a

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Speaker 1: lot of cap money to spend. What veteran players out

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League? Do you see that maybe

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Speaker 1: could use a change of scenery. Yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be you know, some people that that make

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Speaker 1: sense for the Bills could be someone like a Tyrell

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01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: Williams for example, where you have johsh Allen. You know,

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Speaker 1: he can throw the ball anywhere on the football field

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Speaker 1: forty fifty sixty yards down fields, not a problem for

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Speaker 1: his arm. So let's get him a threat that's going

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Speaker 1: to be able to stretch the football down field. And

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Speaker 1: Robert Foster kal on the second half of last year,

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Speaker 1: it did a very impressive job. I think he's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of the one of the guys you're going

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Speaker 1: to build around that receiving corps, and then you add

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Speaker 1: someone like a Tyrrell Williams, you know, someone who's a

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Speaker 1: big body, someone who's gonna be able to catch those

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Speaker 1: jump balls and sort of scare teams away from from

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Speaker 1: putting that second safety in the box and sort of

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Speaker 1: challenging that running game. Could really open up your offense

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Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways, Like could have been

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Speaker 1: going after, you know, a downfill threat, whether it's signing

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Speaker 1: someone like Tyrell Williams or training for someone like Kenny

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Speaker 1: Stills for example, or if the Dolphins rebuilding and they

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Speaker 1: don't need, you know, a receiver making eight nine million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year. Hey, even total sense for what Buffalo

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01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: is trying to do an offense, So it could see

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Speaker 1: them going in that direction. Maybe adding some help at

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Speaker 1: tight end with Charles Play's contract running out in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of years, So certainly some options there in

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Speaker 1: terms of adding pieces around Josh Allen. Offseason moves they

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01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: are always going to be interesting and the Giants I

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01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: think surprise people in that drafting a quarterback last year.

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Speaker 1: You've written a little bit, I believe about Eli Manning

1311
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: and suggested that maybe the Giants will be ready or

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Speaker 1: should be ready at least, to move on from Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you make of at this offseason? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's about the time, you know, I just

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Speaker 1: think we're getting to the point where, you know, they

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Speaker 1: drafted Saquon Barkley. Saquon Barkley had just about the best

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Speaker 1: year they could have hoped for, and that wasn't enough

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Speaker 1: to propel this offense forward if they tried to make

1319
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Speaker 1: investments on the offensive line. Nate Solder, former Patriots tackle,

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Speaker 1: really struggled in his first season. The right side of

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Speaker 1: the line was with Eric Flowers and Patrick Omamey, who

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Speaker 1: the times in the Jags. Both those guys were back

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Speaker 1: on the Jags by the end of the season. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think at some point you have to say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well it's not the running back. We have a number

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Speaker 1: one receiver in Odell Beckham, we have a number one

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Speaker 1: tight end and Evan Ingram, We've invest on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Well what's left? I mean, at some point it has

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Speaker 1: to be Eli's fault. And I think obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: he has struggled here and there. I thought the numbers

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01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: looked good last year, but so much of that was

1332
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: just checking down, checking down, checking down. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: taking easy yards, and you can do that some extent,

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Speaker 1: but they weren't in situations where the Giants were actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, materially moving the football down field. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of throwing the ball on third and long for

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01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: short gains, and a lot of throwing the ball when

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Speaker 1: other teams were up by two or three goals and

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01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: didn't need to really press on defense. So I think

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Speaker 1: I would look into case Keenum. If I were the Giants,

1341
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Speaker 1: I would think about drafting Dwayne Haskins with a sixth pick.

1342
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Speaker 1: If I was the Giants, I think they have to

1343
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: at least explore their options and not sit here and

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Speaker 1: depend upon Eli Manning as their sixteen game plug and

1345
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: play starter. In twenty nineteen, what do you think what

1346
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: person or is there one do you think is going

1347
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: to be the first player picked in the NFL draft? Oh? Boy,

1348
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: that's a tough one, right. Yeah. I always feel like,

1349
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, at this time of the year, I always

1350
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: feel like we're talking about defensive players or offensive lineman

1351
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: or was talking about guys who are not quarterbacks and

1352
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: then you get to March, you get to April, and

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Speaker 1: then it becomes a quarterback. And I think with the Cardinals,

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: you know they need defensive help. Obviously, I don't think

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01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: they're going to draft a quarterback. I don't know that

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01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: i'd buy the idea they're going to trade Josh Rosen

1357
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: and draft Kyler Murray, even though I think it would

1358
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: be a really exciting thing. It'd be really impressive and,

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, a very sort of brave thing to do.

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01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would be smart necessarily, but

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Speaker 1: I could see them trading down to a team like

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Speaker 1: the Giants, for example, who think they want to go

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: out and get their quarterback. Or if you look a

1364
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: little further in the draft, maybe even the Dolphins, where

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Speaker 1: they want to rebuild, they start with that quarterback and

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Speaker 1: trade from thirteen to one to go up and get

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Speaker 1: a Jayne Haskins. I consider making that sort of move

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Speaker 1: to get ahead of the Raiders. But if I had

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Speaker 1: to pick a guy right now, I think I would

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Speaker 1: say Nick Bosa. I don't think if it's the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get Nick Bosa, you surround him with

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Speaker 1: Chamlo Jones, Suddenly you have a dominant pass rush, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great building block if you don't

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Speaker 1: have that quarterback yet, and obviously they're still want to

1375
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: developed Josh Rosen. I think the best thing to get

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Speaker 1: after that is a dominant pass rusher, and having two

1377
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Speaker 1: of those guys that could really transform your team on

1378
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, created a lot of

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: short fields and gave your offense and opportunities to score

1380
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Speaker 1: without having to march the ball sixty seventy eighty yards

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Speaker 1: down the field at the time. And Bill, before I

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Speaker 1: let you go, got a two part question for you

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Speaker 1: about the Alliance of American Football one weekend. What did

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Speaker 1: you think of the Alliances and what do you think

1385
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: of it now as in a potential development ground for

1386
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: NFL talent? And I can any thoughts of all on

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: the report out today about Colin Kaepernick and the fact

1388
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: that there was interest in him at the Alliance. What

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Speaker 1: do you make of those yeah issues, I mean with

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, it makes total sense to me that they

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Speaker 1: go out and reach for him. I think he's the

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Speaker 1: best quarterback out on the free agent market who doesn't

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Speaker 1: currently have a job, and so I'm not surprised. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, Colin Kaepernick was sit there and say, hey,

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01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: I know that if I go play for the AF,

1396
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Speaker 1: that's going to attract ratings, It's going to at all Jerseys.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be a big part of what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: So hey, I deserve a good amount of funny and

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Speaker 1: I do. I think he really wanted to go play

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Speaker 1: in the AF. No, but being honest, I don't think

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01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: he did. But I think, you know, he knows he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be worth a lot of money to any league

1403
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Speaker 1: like this, whether it's the XFL or the AF that

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Speaker 1: wants to bring in a quarterback because he's the biggest

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01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: name available on the free agent marketing, the best player

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Speaker 1: available right now in the moment when it comes to

1407
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: quarterback play. In terms of the AF, I was excited.

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Speaker 1: I think we saw a lot of fun stuff and

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see some really interesting opportunities developed

1410
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: for some of these players as the season goes on,

1411
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: because I think in the NFL we always overestimate play years,

1412
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: chances of succeeding or sorry, underestimated until they actually get on.

1413
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: They think about someone like a Kirk Warner for example,

1414
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: where you know, look at look at him on paper,

1415
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: he was a guy who was playing in NFL Europe.

1416
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: He was a backup, and then the moment he got

1417
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: on the field, he was an MVP for the Rams.

1418
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there might not be another Curt Warner, you know,

1419
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 1: working on the bottom of rosters playing in the AF

1420
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: but there are going to be guys who are viable

1421
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: NFL players who just need an opportunity, whether it's up

1422
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: they're too small, whether they don't have that sort of

1423
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: pedigree you'd expect from a different team. I think it's

1424
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: gonna be opportunities for those guys to impress. And I

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01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: think I'm really excited to see how those players perform

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Speaker 1: in the weeks to come in the air. Yeah, me too. Hey, Bill, thanks,

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Speaker 1: it's good to recall after you. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Bill Barnwell, ESPN staff writer, hosted the Bill

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Speaker 1: Barneill Show podcast Ben with ESPN for the last eight years.

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01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: A deep thinker, Steve he thinks about stuff in the NFL. Yeah,

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: any more like him? Yeah, and he actually it's interesting

1432
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: his recall about you know, guys and players and the

1433
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: fact that he had you know, this guy Tyrrell Williams

1434
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: and the you know he thinks that that's a guy

1435
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: that needs a new place to land, and it's somebody

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: the Bills absolutely is on their radar. And it's fun

1437
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: talking to him because they have. You always get a

1438
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: fresh set of eyes, guys who look around the league

1439
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: and then compare what they see around the league with

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01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: what we see in Buffalo. And we always you always

1441
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: make your problems into this huge mountain that is going

1442
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 1: to be really hard to overcome. And he says, well,

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: you know, really, you got a really good defense, you know,

1444
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: just put some some some guys outside of Josh Allen

1445
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: and maybe your playoff team. It seems a little more

1446
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: difficult when you're sitting in this every day look we are, Hey,

1447
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: let's talk more about the Bills this offseason versus last offseason,

1448
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: which is more critical to their future. We'll talk about that.

1449
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: We will take another look at the the Twitter poll

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01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: as we're midway through the show and get more of

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Speaker 1: your comments. We've got phone lines open eight three, five

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Speaker 1: fifty and twelve three one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Give us a call. Everything's on the table.

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Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show, John Murphy and Steam Tasker. Halfway through our

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Speaker 1: Friday show. It is One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive,

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Speaker 1: coming to you from our one Buffalo studio. And I

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Speaker 1: had a lot to talk about today our Twitter poll.

1460
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: I find it interesting Bill Barnwell went the other way.

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01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: I think you know. I asked him what he thought,

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01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: is this offseason more important than last offseason where the Bills.

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01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 1: He says, yes, it is. And even though I disagree

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01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 1: with him, see, he gave to me the most compelling

1465
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: argument why one might say that this off season is

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Speaker 1: more important. And that's because where the Bills are, the

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01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: states involved. They have the quarterback now, and now they

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01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: need to take a step forward. They absolutely need to

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01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: take a step forward, and it has to begin with good,

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01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: solid choices made draft and free agency here in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of months. However, I would submit that last year,

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Speaker 1: everything that went into getting that quarterback is much more

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01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: important than what goes on here the next couple of months.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other side of this. Bills fan extreme

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01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: right on our says you'd be a I think you'd

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Speaker 1: be a fool to think this coming year wasn't more

1477
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: important than the last year. McDermott and Bean can no

1478
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: longer afford to fail. They have both the money and

1479
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: the draft picks to really build a quality roster, and

1480
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: the price for failure is going to be steep next time.

1481
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: I agree, So I think that he couldn't afford to

1482
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: fail last year either. They couldn't afford to fail on

1483
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: their choice of a quarterback last year. What if the

1484
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: Bills had chosen Josh Rosen last year, Not that he's

1485
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: a bus, He's not a bus yet certainly didn't have

1486
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: the year or any of the other Let's just say,

1487
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: let's just say what if they Let's just say they

1488
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: didn't have had a chance all five quarterbacks went one

1489
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: through five, and then they you know, here they sit

1490
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: with getting Mason Rudolph, they'd this year, they'd be right

1491
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: where they were a year ago, right in a quarterback

1492
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: class it's worse. Or they would have been all in

1493
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: trying to get one of those guys, like they'll be

1494
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: all in trying to get Joe Flacco or case Keenam

1495
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: away from these guys and all these guys that are

1496
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: gonna be about Teddy Bridgewaters of the world. All of

1497
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: these guys that are going to be free agents this year,

1498
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: and there's a ton of them, Josh McCown, uh, Trevor Simeon,

1499
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: Tyrod right, but that would be a stop gap until

1500
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: they found their guy. But does that get him off

1501
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: the hook? Who get who off the hook? McDermott and Bean?

1502
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: Does that get him off the hook? Because they don't

1503
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback, he can't really evaluate him. So

1504
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: I think I'm all right, I'm gonna start. I'm gonna

1505
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: go on the other side in debate makes up a

1506
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: decision which I'm debating myself. Here we go and I

1507
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: get it. He's right, and I it's it's a little

1508
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: bit like I said at the beginning of the show.

1509
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: You won that offseason where you got Josh Allen, you

1510
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: got Um, you got Tremaine Edmonds, you got those you

1511
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: got Harrison Phillips, you got tarn Johnson, you got four

1512
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,919
Speaker 1: guys that are really looked like they're going to contribute

1513
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot. And Josh Allen's what could be a franchise

1514
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: quarterback for a decade and a half. So you got

1515
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: those guys, and that's kind of a win, but the

1516
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: reward for that is now the pressure's on. Now you've

1517
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: really got to do it. You've got to put together

1518
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: a roster that is gonna go to the playoffs and

1519
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: go deep. And it's it's like this year, that's like

1520
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: the expectation, and if you don't go, if you don't,

1521
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: you know you better have The better be a pretty

1522
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 1: good reason everybody can see as to why you didn't again,

1523
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 1: and it better not be your fault to make the distinction.

1524
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: I think the twenty nineteen season is much more important

1525
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: than the twenty eighteen season. I get it. I think

1526
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen offseason is less important than the twenty

1527
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: eighteen offseason. But what do you think? On our Twitter poll?

1528
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: Is this offseason more important than last year for the Bills?

1529
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: It's overwhelming vote. Eighty one percent of you say yes,

1530
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: it is, and I'm puzzled by that. I think it

1531
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: almost shows a disregard for what went on here last

1532
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: season in terms of getting the franchise quarterback. Nineteen percent

1533
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: say no. I think a lot of people are letting

1534
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: bleeding this offseason into the regular season. I don't think

1535
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: there's any question this next regular season is tantamount too.

1536
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: I mean, this has got to be a big step forward.

1537
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a ten one year

1538
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: or it's not a very successful you know what I mean.

1539
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: I mean, but that doesn't that's not this off season.

1540
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: That's not this offseason. This is it's the regular season.

1541
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: The regular season is just you know, it's just the

1542
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: proof of what they do this offseason, right yeah, I

1543
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: mean this offseason has everything to do with how many

1544
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,919
Speaker 1: games they win this next season when it is important,

1545
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: right so, And for that reason, it's hard to say

1546
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: it's less important than the last one. What do you think?

1547
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: Give us a call. We can discuss at length eight

1548
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: oh three five fifty and toll free one eight eight

1549
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty gun lines opening right now.

1550
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: Or you can send in a tweet. You can vote

1551
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: in the tweet, the Twitter poll or sending a tweet.

1552
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: William B. Williams tweets this in the most important offseason

1553
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: is finding the quarterback. But where this team is at

1554
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: is equally important to surround him with layers. For me,

1555
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: these two off seasons are married to each other. Is

1556
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: it two steps forward or one step forward one step back? Okay?

1557
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: Asking you to make it a sensition. You don't want

1558
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: to make it a choice. I've been debating myself. Yes,

1559
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: all day, I'm using your camp, but I'll tell you

1560
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: this use I'm the pancake flipper. But I think a

1561
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: little bit and a little bit of it is me saying, hey,

1562
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: the most important offseason is always the next one, which

1563
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 1: is what we're in. You know, this next one is

1564
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: what we're trying to talk about. So you can't because

1565
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: here and here's another reason this team could be the

1566
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: La Raiders of two years ago. They could go from

1567
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: being a team that's, you know, not going anywhere. They

1568
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: got a bust of a quarterback or an okay kid

1569
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: that couldn't even get on the field, and all of

1570
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: a sudden, the next year, he's this. He's Jared Goff

1571
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: and Todd Gurley and Sean McVay, and now they're they're

1572
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: shifting gears every week. You know. Rams So that since

1573
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: that is has been shown to be possible in the NFL,

1574
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: you think, hey, it's us. You know, why not us?

1575
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: Why aren't we not the team that is going to

1576
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: go from a team that was a six win team

1577
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback who showed some promise, but you

1578
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: know even better than Jared Goff was two years ago,

1579
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,799
Speaker 1: right under Jeff Fisher, and that right, and then say, okay,

1580
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: you tweak the offensive line, coach, you get a couple

1581
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: of wide receivers around them. All of a sudden, Wow,

1582
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: look at this, right, that's kind of the hope this year.

1583
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: Ye so hard. It's hard to diminish the value and

1584
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: the importance of this offseason. It's important, and it's just

1585
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: not as important as last year. Now you had, it's

1586
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: more important than most off seasons. I think you're not

1587
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: gonna be able to It's gonna be difficult to say

1588
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 1: until you hold them up when they're entirety, when they're done,

1589
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: when we're sitting here about to embark on it. It

1590
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: does seem vitally much more important than what you've done

1591
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: in the past. I know what I mean. I hear you,

1592
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: but I don't agree. Man, I agree, but you can

1593
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: see the point. Nick Rosenberg tweets this in quarterback most

1594
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: important position on the field period. Complimentary pieces are necessary,

1595
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 1: but not as important. I agree with you, Nick, last

1596
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: offseason was more important in my mind, and I'm surprised

1597
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: by the eighty one to nineteen percent margin in the

1598
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: Twitter poll. I don't want. I don't. I'm not surprised

1599
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: that everybody doesn't agree with me, but I am surprised

1600
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: that it's at a bigger gulf between the people who think. Look,

1601
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: and I get it, this offseason is important, it's critically important.

1602
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: I get that. But to get the franchise quarterback that

1603
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: means everything to me. Paul and Hamburg has a thought

1604
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: on this. Paul, go ahead, you're on the air. They

1605
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: get up for you today. Good from all I wanted

1606
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: to say. It was usually a most coach in the

1607
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: NFL get about three years to do something with a team,

1608
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: and this is Sean mcdermot's third year, and I think

1609
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: it's time for him to put up or shut up.

1610
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 1: This team needs to make progress. We keep talking about

1611
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: trust the process, trust the process. Well, well what are

1612
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: we the process? What I mean? You look at the

1613
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: championship games and most of those players that we had,

1614
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: we're in those championship games. Not true, Not true, Paul,

1615
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: not true. But let me take you back a little bit.

1616
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: Does McDermott's first year mean anything? Nine wins? Does that

1617
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: mean anything in your evaluation of his two years so far,

1618
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: it means a little. I mean, he ended the drought,

1619
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: but you look at last year, and I'll give if

1620
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: we drafted a new quarterback. It's getting that out of

1621
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: the way and doing that. So this year means something.

1622
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: He has to go to the playoffs. If he doesn't,

1623
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: then this whole culture and process thing means nothing. I

1624
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: don't know if I buy that. I mean, here's here's

1625
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: one thing I will say. I'm not saying, hey, he

1626
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: gets a carte blanche to do what ever he wants,

1627
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: but I'll say this last that first year, the nineteen

1628
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen season where they got to the playoffs with

1629
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: a roster that was written, that was gutted of some

1630
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: really quality players and some bad contracts that year. Getting

1631
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: that team to the playoffs certainly, in my mind, would

1632
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: buy him another year. On the other end of the

1633
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: three years, it would buy him a four year window

1634
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: rather than a three year window. That's typical. You look

1635
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: at Adam Gase. He didn't get that in Miami. He

1636
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: got to the playoffs his first year in Miami, then

1637
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: two subsequent years that didn't go well and he's out now.

1638
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: Certainly he didn't seem to make any progress in his

1639
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: third year from after they took a step back in

1640
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: their second year. But I would think that the that

1641
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: the what Sean McDermott has done thus far in the

1642
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: first two years would certainly buy him more time on

1643
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: the far end of his contract. I don't think he

1644
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: gets a three year deal. I think he gets at

1645
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: least a four year and maybe the full five year

1646
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: full five years of his contract. And if he gets

1647
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: into the fourth year and they're doing and things are

1648
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: still progressing, and they do make the playoffs again, or

1649
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: they missed by a whisker, or they even they back

1650
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: at whatever happens, I think they extend him. And so

1651
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: I think there's no question that they are deep into

1652
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's tenure here as head coach. But I think

1653
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: to this point, i'd say you'd have to say he's

1654
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: done nothing but do exactly what he was supposed to do,

1655
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: and that is get his house in order, get the

1656
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, and get more out of whatever roster they've

1657
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: put together for him and around him, and what he's

1658
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: helped to put together. I think they've maximized their their

1659
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: talent and you can say what you want about, Well,

1660
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: they got rid of a lot of talent. I get

1661
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: all that, But what talent they do have on the field,

1662
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: I think they're getting a lot out of and I

1663
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: think that's what a head coach's number one job is.

1664
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I agree with you that

1665
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: he's only got this year and one more or this

1666
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: year left. I think he's got more time than that,

1667
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: because he turned it. I was gonna say, I disagree

1668
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: with him maximizing talent. I wholeheartedly disagree with that. You

1669
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: look at the year that McCoy had, I don't think

1670
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: he was maximized at all. I just I think it's

1671
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: I think, as Bill's fans, we've come to accept mediocrity

1672
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: too much, and if we're going to be a serious team,

1673
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: we got to stop accepting mediocrity. And I have my opinion. Yeah,

1674
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: now I get you I gave I wouldn't put I

1675
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: wouldn't put Leshaun McCoy's lack of production on the head coach.

1676
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: I get that what you're saying, he's responsible ultimately for it,

1677
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know that he's I don't know where

1678
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: that that's where that buck gets dropped for me, Leshaun

1679
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 1: McCoy now, certainly, and I think you're discounting the fact

1680
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: that this is a head coach that got blindsided and

1681
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: the staff that got blindsided by losing forty percent of

1682
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: their offensive line unexpectedly. Thanks Paul good points. Yeah, that's

1683
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: good point. I and I get it too. He doesn't.

1684
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to be gushing over Sean

1685
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: McDermot and what he's done. But I think it's pretty

1686
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: hard to find a ton of criticism for what he's done.

1687
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: Let me repeat what I've said a couple of times,

1688
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: but I want to make I just want to make

1689
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: this point clear. This season is critically this season, these

1690
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: games to start first week is September, critically important for McDermott,

1691
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: for being in the Buffalo Bills, critically important, more important

1692
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: than last year. I'm not gonna at this point. I

1693
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: probably will eventually. I'm not gonna say they need to

1694
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: win X amount of games they need to make the playoffs.

1695
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: I know many people feel that way, and I may

1696
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: get there too. Let's see what they do. I'm talking

1697
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:15,520
Speaker 1: in this poll on this day, February fifteenth, about this offseason,

1698
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: and I don't think in my opinion, that this offseason

1699
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: is as important as last year's was when it came

1700
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: to identifying, maneuvering in the draft, drafting and developing that

1701
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback in the off season. I think that was

1702
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: more important. And you don't have to agree. But don't

1703
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: be confused that I am arguing that this season doesn't

1704
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,440
Speaker 1: mean anything or setting you know, apologizing your lowering expectations,

1705
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: I think is what Paul just said. You know, we've

1706
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: accepted lower expectations, settling for less. No no reason to

1707
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: settle for less. They need to win. They need to

1708
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: win quickly as soon as possible. Here, but I'm talking

1709
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: about this offseason. Here's where I gotta call you out.

1710
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: You're saying telling me last offseason was more important, but

1711
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: there's more at stake this regular season, the next one

1712
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: coming yep, So how can that not preclude the fact

1713
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: that this priest, this offseason would be more important because

1714
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: there's more stake coming up rights last offseason, they got

1715
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: the most important piece of the puzzle in place, the quarterback,

1716
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: the potential franchise quarterback, maybe making a last offseason. We

1717
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: went through this at the top of the show with

1718
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: all of the quarterback prospects with where the Bills were

1719
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: in the draft. That was the key last year, and

1720
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: I believe they've succeeded. They put that key piece, that

1721
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: foundational piece in place. This regular season, when it begins,

1722
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: is more important because because it's the development of a

1723
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. It's all the hits they took, you know,

1724
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: getting rid of talent to suffer under the you know,

1725
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: the dead camp money that they had out there. That's

1726
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: all gone now and once the season begins, they will

1727
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: be called upon to win and be successful, maybe make

1728
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs, maybe win ten wins. Whatever you think the

1729
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: threshold is could be somewhere in that neighborhood. That threshold. Yeah,

1730
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm willing to accept that. But I do think in

1731
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: the off season, with the moons that need to be made,

1732
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: last season was more critical. And that's a discounting the

1733
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: importance of this this offseason. It's important. Call here from

1734
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: Frank kind of cell. Hello, Frank, go ahead, you're on

1735
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: the ear Hey boys. Um, great conversation, but John Um,

1736
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: I have to disagree with you one hundred percent. Year

1737
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: JP Lockin was drafted and EJ Manuel drafted. It was

1738
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: a great offseason. We little contrast quarterbacks the years of forward.

1739
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: We quickly realized the quarterbacks, UM John Shalden had an

1740
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: old Kay John had an okay to year. This year,

1741
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: I want to see him actually throw the ball way

1742
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 1: more consistently and oh sorry boys, UM way more consistently.

1743
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: And UM have actually three hundred yard games last year

1744
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: when you add eighty million of dead cap space, that's

1745
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: easy to do. This year you have an eighty million

1746
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: cast space. Suspend. Let's see they can actually get players

1747
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: to come here and play in Buffalo and help win games. UM,

1748
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: And it shown mcgerman and Brandyby cannot do that and

1749
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 1: they end up with a six. I've been win season

1750
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: again like you did last year. UM, five year contract

1751
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: or not? You let goal, you change the systems, then

1752
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: you start all over again. So you have to win

1753
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: in this league. They have a ton of calf stage.

1754
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: You use this year advantage and you you let you

1755
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: let them go. Okay, thanks right. I disagree with most

1756
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: of what you say, but most of what you say. Yeah,

1757
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with the fact that they need to

1758
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: win this year. I know they do. They need to

1759
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: win this year. This regular season. Not every year is

1760
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: the same, but this year, there was only one team

1761
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: that got in the playoffs that did not win ten games.

1762
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 1: It was a Philadelphia's defending world champions, and they snuck

1763
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: in by the skin of their teeth. Every other team

1764
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: that made the playoffs had at least ten wins, and

1765
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: there were three of those. Everybody else had eleven or

1766
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: twelve wins to get in the playoffs. There were four

1767
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs that had ten wins or less,

1768
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: and one of them only had nine. That's that's the threshold.

1769
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: That's and I've seen, and we've seen in the year's

1770
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: past now, so it doesn't happen very often. The team

1771
01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: was eleven and five and you can get in the playoffs.

1772
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: That was years and years ago, but it has happened.

1773
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: You've got it. That's the threshold. We've all seen it

1774
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: a hundred times or thought about it one hundred times,

1775
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: and if not seen it for a hundred years. But

1776
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna take that. The Bills got in two years ago,

1777
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 1: nine and seven and needed fifteen things to happen on

1778
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: it last day, and it did. So that's what it's

1779
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: going to take. And it's not out at landish to

1780
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: think they could get there that if we, let's face it,

1781
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: we as Bills fans, everybody was enamored with the way

1782
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: things changed when seventeen started taking snaps on a regular basis.

1783
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: You could see his game change week to week to week.

1784
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 1: Even a casual observer could see him do things completely

1785
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: differently week to week in aspects of his game. Whether

1786
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: he learned to slide, whether he learned to run out

1787
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: of bounds, whether he would take the check down, all

1788
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: of that stuff where he would stand in the pocket

1789
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: when he had the time and make the throw and

1790
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: accept the hit, whether all of that stuff. We saw

1791
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: it week after week get better and better and better,

1792
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: and it was the most compelling thing about the entire

1793
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: regular season. And you tend to, as we all, do

1794
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: you project that forward you projected into this year, we know,

1795
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it. He's out there working

1796
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: on it right now. He's working with Jordan Palmer. He's

1797
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: out there, you know, talking smack with Sam Darneld as

1798
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 1: they get ready for this next season with the Jet quarterback.

1799
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: He's working hard to get There's now while he's doing that,

1800
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: we sit here in Gray Dreary Orchard Park waiting on

1801
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 1: the rating on free agency to come looking at every list.

1802
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we look at every list you can think

1803
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: of about these players who we may get, might get.

1804
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: And the caller brought up a really interesting point. It

1805
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: becomes about Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott selling what Buffalo's

1806
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: got to guys who are looking for a place to play.

1807
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: Good players, players that we've heard of some of us

1808
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: have heard of, maybe not offensive line and like I

1809
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: didn't Spencer Long, I knew, I kind of knew his name,

1810
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: But you know guys like you know, Antonio Brown, guys

1811
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 1: like that who you've heard of. Some of them we've

1812
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: heard of, something were not. But we've got to sell

1813
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: what this team has right now, and it's this ascendency

1814
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: that Murph had mentioned in the show. That's what we're

1815
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: selling this offseason. And you got to find enough guys

1816
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: who were willing to buy it and jump on board.

1817
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: And that's that is the most intriguing exciting thing about

1818
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: this offseason. We're gonna get some guys in here that

1819
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: maybe some of us have heard of and start to

1820
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: project that onto this next season. Then things get fun.

1821
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. We're gonna talk more about it.

1822
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: It's fun today, come on back, and it's kind of

1823
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: it's much more fun than yesterday. Yeah, we're much more

1824
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: Twitter poll yesterday just a poor approach to the whole

1825
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: show yesterday. We don't know what went wrong, but it

1826
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: went horribly off the rail. As soon as apogize exactly right,

1827
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: as soon as we Murph came up with this Twitter pole.

1828
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: I it was gonna be a good ship. I came

1829
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: up with it. It It was the beauties in the simplicity

1830
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, it is simple. We gotta we gotta,

1831
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: we gotta be more simple in our concoction of Twitter

1832
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: point write that down. Okay, by we're back with more

1833
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: one Bill's live, Who's ended by collat of health and

1834
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills reading. Yeah, welcome back to the show,

1835
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker got an autograph thing coming up,

1836
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: huh this weekend Sunday noon to two. I'm over there. Yeah,

1837
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: there'll be a bunch of guys there. I think Marve's

1838
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: mark there. And I'm always surprised too, he's I never

1839
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: really checked the line up out because I'm always I'm

1840
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 1: just kind of slepping over there and you know, signing

1841
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: the six people who want my autograph watching Marv signed

1842
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: for fifty thousand people. But and but I always get

1843
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 1: surprised by seeing somebody like, you know, you go over

1844
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 1: there and say, hey, Beebes, what are you doing? You know,

1845
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: somebody like that will show up and you know, like

1846
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: you's heard Josh, He's gonna be there. And um, so

1847
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 1: I get a chance to touch base with some guys.

1848
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: But still it's funny too because they do it a

1849
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: couple of days. So like, yeah, like Biscuit was in

1850
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: yesterday and Bruce was in yesterday. Andre Reid was here.

1851
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't see him because I'm the next day, right,

1852
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 1: So some of that happens as well. So here's a

1853
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: call from Edric in New Jersey. Edric, have you been.

1854
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: We've been talking in a while. Everything good. I've been

1855
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: very good guys. Thanks. I know it's been a while.

1856
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes I've called and i'd have to God because I

1857
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: couldn't have waited as long. I'm sorry about that, no problem,

1858
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 1: I just um, you know, I I didn't understand the

1859
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: caller before talking about Sean McDermott. And and if he

1860
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything next year, I don't think fans understand

1861
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: just how good of a head coach we have, and

1862
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: how I respect it. Sean McDermott is around this league.

1863
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean, guys, I'm in New York, New Jersey and

1864
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: I've got Ben with on ESPN New York. We sometimes

1865
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: say the dumbest thing, and they say Sean McDermot the

1866
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: terrific at coach. Even the dumb guys know he's a

1867
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: good coach. I guess, even those guys. I mean it's

1868
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a there's a there's a vision here.

1869
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a culture being built. There's there's the

1870
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 1: same type of guys coming into this building that are

1871
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 1: being successful as individual players. I mean, I mean you

1872
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: could just add them up, you know what I mean.

1873
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Has this team ever been unprepared for a game? I

1874
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think the times we've been blown

1875
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: out is because we didn't have the talent. But you

1876
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: know what I have seen. I have seen us going

1877
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: to Minnesota and kick that you know what as a

1878
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings because we were prepared. You know. You know

1879
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: what if I havn'teen I haven't seen is lose to

1880
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars in London, you know like we did

1881
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: because we were We weren't prepared to go out and

1882
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: play a game that we needed, you know, I mean,

1883
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I really don't understand. You know, Um, they're

1884
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: not complacent, you know. They the offensive line didn't play well.

1885
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,719
Speaker 1: He got rid of one of the most respected offensive

1886
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: line coaches in the NFL. You know, Special teams wasn't

1887
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: doing well. He got rid of the special teams coach.

1888
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: You know. But I'll tell you what something that Sean

1889
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: McDermot is not gonna do. He's not gonna let go

1890
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: one of his coaches mid season. If you haves a

1891
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: kind of guy or coaches, you know, so you know

1892
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,560
Speaker 1: I Spare Teams was thinking it up. Sean McDermot is

1893
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: not the kind of guy who's going to get rid

1894
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: of a coach mid season. I know that for a fact. Eric, Thanks,

1895
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 1: you make good points. I will say, I'm in lying

1896
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: with you about the earlier caller who I apologize name

1897
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: I can't recall talking about. If this doesn't happen, they're

1898
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 1: gonna have to fire him. You know, I think some

1899
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 1: people see if are in a race to get to

1900
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 1: that point, in a race to when is the time,

1901
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 1: who's gonna be who's on the hot seat. Is McDermot

1902
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: on the hot seat if they don't win ten games?

1903
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people I think approach the NFL

1904
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: like that. Every team there's a bunch of fans who

1905
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: approach it like, oh, who's on the hot seat. Who's

1906
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: gonna get You know, there's been so much coach turn

1907
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: over here over the years. I'm just like, you know,

1908
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 1: if you got a guy doing a good job, let's

1909
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: stick with him and maybe sticking him a little bit

1910
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: longer than you might be inclined to if you think

1911
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: he's doing a good job. And I think this coach

1912
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 1: in this coach are doing a pretty good job. Rety Good.

1913
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: I agree. And here's the thing too, And I I've

1914
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: said this a number of times on the show. If

1915
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 1: you've heard me say before I apologize Murphy, you can

1916
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: you can turn your head and not listen again. But

1917
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 1: but I spoke to the owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers

1918
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 1: in years past, Dan Rooney, who's since passed away. H

1919
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 1: He and I asked him after they had won their

1920
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: second Super Bowl under Mike Tomlin. Dan I said, mister Rooney,

1921
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: how do you picked head coaches? You're a team that

1922
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: has had three head coaches and what is now fifty

1923
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: years Stretch had Chuck Noll, that had Bill Kauer and

1924
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: now Mike Tomlin. How do you pick the right guy

1925
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 1: for your franchise? And he, in typical fashion, was pretty unassuming.

1926
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: He kind of shrugged his shoulders and said, listen, you

1927
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: hire the smartest guy you can find, and you support

1928
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 1: him until he figures it out. That was my advice

1929
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: to you know, Kim and Terry Pagoula. Listen, he may

1930
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: it may take a while for Sean mcgriver to get

1931
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 1: everything right, but he's a smart guy and he's totally

1932
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: committed and he has a plan to do things the

1933
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: right way, and if he needs to learn things, you

1934
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: bet he's gonna learn it. You got to support him,

1935
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: because then you're gonna have a hire a different guy

1936
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 1: and let him have to learn different lessons. Start all over,

1937
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: start all over again. Let Sean McDermott learn what he

1938
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: needs to learn and get better and better and better,

1939
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: and support the things, give him the support around him

1940
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: that he needs. That's how you build a franchise that

1941
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: wins consistently. Yep, all right, we got a good guest

1942
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 1: coming up next to our Buddy Joe b Joba Scalia

1943
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: from WKBWTV Channel seven and Buffalo Sports director there. He's

1944
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: all over the offseason. We're gonna ask him this question,

1945
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: is this offseason more critical than last year? We'll ask

1946
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: him a bunch of questions about free agency. He's done

1947
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: a quick study on that the draft, of course, Joe

1948
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: by Joba Scalia standing by in our is that our

1949
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: green room. It's there's not an ounce of green in there.

1950
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 1: That's that's our control is like one little corner of

1951
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: our control room that we have decorated. There's plenty of one.

1952
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Everything else is a warehouse. We're coming back with more.

1953
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo

1954
01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio, Buffalo Hills Radio Network Sports Date. The update

1955
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 1: comes from one Bill's Drive. Buffalo Sabers finish up their

1956
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: seven game homestand tonight. It is a seven game homestrang

1957
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: that matches the longest Enfranchise history home tonight against the

1958
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: New York Rangers. Buffalo beat the Rangers three to one

1959
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: of New York back in early November. They are four

1960
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: to four and two in their last ten games of

1961
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Rangers three five and two, third and final meeting between

1962
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: the Sabers and Rangers this year. Casey Middlestad Zach Mgozian

1963
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 1: back at practice yesterday. Both of them may be ready

1964
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 1: to return tonight seven o'clock faceoff Sabers Rangers at the

1965
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 1: Keybank Center Tonight. College basketball locally tonight, UB Bulls on

1966
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,799
Speaker 1: the road at Toledo, Buffalo with twenty one wins three losses,

1967
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 1: already tied for the fourth most wins in school history

1968
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 1: for wins in the season, fourth time in the last

1969
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: five years UB has won twenty or more games. They

1970
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: play at Toledo seven o'clock tonight in Toledo, the game

1971
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: on espn U Niche's home tonight against Fairfield at the

1972
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: Kessler Center. That's a seven o'clock tip off. They won

1973
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: a couple of road games last weekend at Rider in

1974
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: Saint Peter's home tonight against Fairfield and the Niagara Purple

1975
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 1: Eagles had a rough road trip last weekend. Their home

1976
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: tonight back at the Gallagher Center against Manhattan College. That

1977
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 1: game at seven o'clock. The NFL and Colin Kaepernick have

1978
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: settled their longstanding lawsuit. Release coming out from the NFL

1979
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: today saying the parties have decided to resolve their pending

1980
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 1: grievances a confident confidentiality agreement. No further comment by any

1981
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 1: party around the NFL veterans on the free age and

1982
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,799
Speaker 1: market trying to get a jump before the free agency

1983
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: period begins on March thirteenth. That includes former Bills and

1984
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Patriots running back Mike Gillisly he worked out yesterday with

1985
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. Still trying to find a defensive coordinator

1986
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Bengals new code Zach Taylor has been put

1987
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 1: aside by a couple of people he was interesting in,

1988
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 1: including Aaron Glenn from the New Orleans Saints. The Saints

1989
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: planning to block the Bengals from interviewing Glenn, their secondary

1990
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: coach for the opening as defensive coordinator in um in Cincinnati.

1991
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: And that's it. That's the update from One Bill's Drive.

1992
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker here for the third and

1993
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 1: final hour of the show. Third and final hour of

1994
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: the show this week. We're excited about that, right see

1995
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: Kaca having studio with us. One of our frequent guests,

1996
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 1: a guy who knows a thing or two about the

1997
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Bills in the NFL, especially this time of year. Job

1998
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 1: was Scottia sports director at WKBWTV Channel seven in Buffalo.

1999
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: Is with us, Joe, would you say that free agency

2000
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 1: and the draft at your wheelhouse? Would you describe it

2001
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 1: as your wheelhouse? Yeah, that's how you made your name, really, Yeah,

2002
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: it's the draft was really my thing getting in as

2003
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: a young, long haired idiot intern at over over at

2004
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: gr for a while and then uh and then yeah,

2005
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: just kind of work my way up and try to

2006
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: know as much as I could about the prospects over

2007
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 1: the years. Yeah, So it's always it's always good this

2008
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 1: time of year because going back to the Combine, like

2009
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: the rare people, all the stuff who really liked the Combine.

2010
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how do you like to come? I don't

2011
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 1: like to come. I like the Senior Bowl. What's the difference,

2012
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,719
Speaker 1: big difference. You were at the Senior Yeah, the Senior Bowl.

2013
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 1: And from a media perspective, it's so much different because

2014
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: it's just a lot more laid back. I mean, it's

2015
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 1: just practices. You get to watch the whole thing football

2016
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: going on. They don't they don't let anybody into the

2017
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: actual workouts. Now they do. You can buy a ticket. Yeah,

2018
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 1: I'm not buying a ticket. Well, I know, but now

2019
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's just one more little revenue stream.

2020
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. I mean, if you're in the NFL,

2021
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you people tune into it? List and I'm all,

2022
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: I get it, but what did you see the combines

2023
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: on portion of it on ABC? I know this year,

2024
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: I know, I know what that said to me. Somebody

2025
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: has recognized the fact that the Combine is the highest

2026
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: rated sports programming in the month of what February early March?

2027
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,839
Speaker 1: Right there? Really is. It's crazy the numbers it attracts

2028
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: for how long it's on all the time. I mean,

2029
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure the online that's how I tune it. I

2030
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: tune into the online streams and I'm like, wow, this

2031
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 1: is show. Well, there's nothing going on in the Combine.

2032
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 1: Those guys just standing around I disagree with can't you can't?

2033
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: I mean the camera angles, there's a lot that talking heads.

2034
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 1: There are certain trying to do promo for our Combine

2035
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: coverage in do it here because there are certain positions

2036
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 1: where it is vital. Listen, you and I are gonna

2037
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: be the most interesting thing there. Oh boy, make a

2038
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: note of that. I mean, watch Kyler Murray run of forty.

2039
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's not It's not about that. I

2040
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 1: think it's more about the positional drills Jim Shortz and

2041
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 1: Jocks drapped, like you can see how a cornerback moves

2042
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: when he has to flip his hips and everything like that,

2043
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 1: and that that gives you a good idea with with

2044
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: man cover. I want to see a cornerback flip his hips.

2045
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 1: I know, but come on, it's not compelling TV. And

2046
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 1: it's to me from Channel seven, is with us here

2047
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: for the next couple of minutes. I wanted you to

2048
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: dive right in on our Twitter poll today. We've discussed

2049
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: it all day and we look we're approaching deep offseason

2050
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: now with the draft is well, the free agency is

2051
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,560
Speaker 1: a month away, the combines before that, and then of

2052
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 1: course so the draft comes up at the end of

2053
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 1: the month. Let me just preface this, and the reason

2054
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: he's getting right into it is because Joe agrees with Mirth.

2055
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: No nos, Bill Barnwell, who disagreed. But Joe, this is

2056
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: our Twitter pool. Is this offseason more important than last

2057
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: year's was for the Buffalo Bills? And keep in mind,

2058
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the respondence to our Twitter pool see, Yes,

2059
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: it is. This offseason is more important than last year.

2060
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: Your thought, Joe, Yeah, I don't. I don't think it is,

2061
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:19,759
Speaker 1: because I know the idea behind having all the salary

2062
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 1: cap room almost eighty million at this point in time,

2063
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: and then having the ten draft picks, But it's all

2064
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 1: secondary to the most important position going in sports, which

2065
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: is finding a potential franchise quarterback and taking that swing.

2066
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 1: And they based their entire offseason last year around going

2067
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 1: to get a franchise quarterback, no matter who it was,

2068
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 1: and it ended up being Josh Allen. They moved up

2069
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,440
Speaker 1: to seven to get him. They established all those resources,

2070
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 1: all of the trades that they made leading up to that.

2071
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it all made it available to them getting

2072
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: their hands on a potential franchise quarterback. And none of

2073
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 1: this would be possible, you know, building the team around

2074
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 1: the young quarterback without actually having done the job of

2075
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 1: getting the quarterback himself. So that's why I'm I'm of

2076
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 1: the belief and this season, this offseason is very important, Steve.

2077
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,600
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but when you look at in

2078
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, I have a hard time

2079
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 1: believing that finding a franchise quarterback or taking a swing

2080
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 1: on one is less important than what's going on. You're

2081
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,799
Speaker 1: assuming that Steve has made up his mind on this trade. Absolutely,

2082
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 1: I've been debating. He has not. I've been debating myself.

2083
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 1: Come to the dark side. But by the same token,

2084
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. I means you can be

2085
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: the first person to vote on the next one. Is

2086
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 1: Josh the guy? Oh that's too early, that's too early

2087
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: to tell on that. I mean, he made no, he

2088
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 1: made legitimate strides over the last I don't know, five

2089
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: six games right when, Yeah, when he came back from

2090
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 1: his injury, he was a completely different player. Um early on,

2091
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: when he was starting, it's like, okay, the game might

2092
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 1: be a little bit too much for him right now,

2093
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 1: even though he showed those flashes every here or there.

2094
01:41:55,840 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 1: But when he showed those, um, I guess the signs

2095
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: of progress in the you know, the think of the

2096
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 1: brain sort of one, are the things that you noticed,

2097
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: like tangible things you saw him doing well. I saw

2098
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 1: him certainly staying in the pocket more right as as

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Speaker 1: the season went on, which is something he did not do.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the offensive line didn't really afford him

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Speaker 1: those opportunities early early on, But he had the chance,

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Speaker 1: he started, Yeah, he started to dive in. I saw

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01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,799
Speaker 1: him read scan the field ahead of play pre snap,

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01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 1: which is absolutely so essential to two young quarterbacks to

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01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: be able to understand that side of things and be

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01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: able to diagnose. But by and large, I saw, you know,

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01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: becoming more accurate as the season went along, you know,

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01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: taking those those chances down the field. And when he

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01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,640
Speaker 1: got labeled as a runner, it was he kind of

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01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: bucked that trend as well. So it's it's all right,

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01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: it's all pointing in the right direction. He needs to,

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01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, chuck the ball up less and he did

2113
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 1: that a couple of times, just to his his big thing.

2114
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 1: And critics still go back to this and they always inaccurate.

2115
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I see, and because we watched him

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01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 1: practice once in a while, I see him throw the football,

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01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 1: particularly in training camp this last year, and in games

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01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: as well a little bit. Here's what I see about

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01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 1: his completion percentage. He completes fewer of his passes because

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01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 1: he always he tries to make the hard throw way

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01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: more often than everybody else. He tries to make the

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01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: impossible throw a lot. That's why he doesn't complete as

2123
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,799
Speaker 1: many and then in this last game against Miami Dolphins,

2124
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 1: and this is another tent and he can't really say

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01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 1: it's an improvement, but he did better his last game.

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01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 1: Last time we saw him, so we didn't have a

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01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: chance to see if it's stuck. He completed sixty percent

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01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 1: of his passes and they asked him about and he said, listen,

2129
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: and we were just trying to get completions. So he,

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01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, with that decision basically and that game plan,

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01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he completed seven percent more of

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01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: his passes, went from fifty three to sixty, and they scored.

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01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 1: They hung forty two on the Dolphins. That's huge to me,

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01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 1: and that speaks of a guy who just what I said,

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01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:09,679
Speaker 1: it wasn't his inaccurate arm, it was his decision making.

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01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 1: Is his desire to make the tough throw all the time.

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01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 1: That was his problem with his completion percentage. Yeah, I

2138
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,799
Speaker 1: think I think on the whole, in terms of quarterback metrics,

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01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: completion percentage is a bit flawed. I think yards per

2140
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: attempt is more of an accurate representation of what a

2141
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: quarterback actually is because then you're seeing depth of target.

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01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you also have to factor in drop rate.

2143
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 1: Which every quarterback has dropped, So you can't totally blame

2144
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 1: it on the receivers because everyone deals with it. But

2145
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: when you have Josh Allen's yards per attempt going up

2146
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: as as the year goes along, that's that's a good

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01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 1: indicator of him being able to do the job a

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01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 1: bit more productively than he had been when he was

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01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 1: initially in the starting lineup before the injury. So these

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01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 1: are all signs, I mean, completion percentage, it kind of

2151
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: is what it is. He's going to take the shots

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01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: down the field, and sometimes they're his fault, sometimes they're

2153
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: not sure, and it's just he's not perfect and he

2154
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 1: has to battle through all of these different things, just

2155
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,759
Speaker 1: like all these young quarterbacks do. But he definitely showed

2156
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:12,560
Speaker 1: to me over the last five games or so that

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01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: you know he took a step forward. Joe Piscania Joe

2158
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,600
Speaker 1: B from Channel seven Sports director, there is with us

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01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 1: for the next few minutes. If you have comments questions

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01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 1: about any of this, give us a call. Eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty or two three one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Just back to the

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll for a moment. Joe, I am not don't

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01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you are. And I'm not arguing

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Speaker 1: that the twenty nineteen season regular season is not as

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01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: important as twenty eighteen. It is. The season is more important,

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01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 1: but this offseason is less important because I do think

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Speaker 1: the twenty what's at stake in twenty nineteen in the

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01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 1: regular season is, you know, are they getting better? Can

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Speaker 1: we take a step forward with this group, with this philosophy,

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01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 1: with this with this process, and do we make steps forward?

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01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 1: That's important they do that in the season. Yeah, I

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01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: agree with that. And when you have all of these

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Speaker 1: all of this cap room, I mean, of course, this

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01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 1: offseason is incredibly important. But when you weigh the two,

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01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:09,839
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have door A, which is potential

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, or door B signing a center as your

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01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 1: marquee free agent and drafting a defensive tackle, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what would you rather have? What's more important to you?

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01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 1: When looking at it from a broad perspective, you're not

2181
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: trying You're not trying to hear you the Spencer Long

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01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: would be the only free agent they do, right? Oh no, okay,

2183
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 1: tell us about you think about Spencer Long and where

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01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 1: the Bills are on the offensive line, that on Tuesday

2185
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 1: the pocket of fans on Twitter that kind of freaked

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01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: out a little bit. That was kind of funny to me.

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01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 1: But that's because just doing this for a little bit,

2188
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: you understand that you never react to the initial numbers

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01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: of contracts, because when you see three for thirteen, you're like, oh,

2190
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Speaker 1: my goodness, what are they doing? He was terrible for

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01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: the Jets last year. But when you see the actual

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01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: details of the contract, you see, Okay, it's essentially a

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01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 1: one year deal with team options for the new two years,

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01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: and hey, if they want to, they could actually cut

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01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: him before the fifth day after the league year and say, okay,

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01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 1: we only paid you stop a mill and a half

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01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 1: if we find something better. But I don't think they'll

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01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 1: do that. I think what he does because you have

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01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 1: to consider the offensive line was just atrocious last year.

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01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 1: It was bad, and you really only have two holdovers

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Speaker 1: from twenty eighteen that are guaranteed a spot in twenty nineteen.

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01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins Wyatt teller, you can't convince me of any

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01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 1: of the other ones that will be on the twenty

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01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: nineteen rosters. So Spencer Long essentially says, okay, well, if

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Speaker 1: you strike out in free agency at guard or center,

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01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 1: or if you strike out in the draft at guard

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01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 1: or center, then you have a guy who has plenty

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01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 1: of experience. Put him in the starting lineup, live to

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Speaker 1: fight another day for the twenty twenty offseason, and you

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Speaker 1: have someone in place that could potentially do the job

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01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 1: for you. It's a depth thing. I don't know if

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01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: it's necessarily a starter. He might end up being a starter.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. This is hard. You can't control the It's

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01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 1: hard to say after seeing him play the last six

2215
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 1: or whatever games at left guard for the Jets to

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01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: say he's not going to be an upgraded one of

2217
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: those two spots than what the Bills had last year

2218
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: and they struggle. But sure, that's may I want to

2219
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: transition in something. I'll do it with this Twitter poll.

2220
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: Robert Boyer tweets in about our Twitter poll. The only

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Speaker 1: way I say no that this this offseason is not

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01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,719
Speaker 1: more important is because last year you had to find

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Speaker 1: that quarterback. Now you need parts that are easier to

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01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: come by. So you're last year the franchise quarterback. You

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01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 1: get him. Now you got the parts which are easier

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01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 1: to come by, which is why last year was more important.

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01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: What are the parts. What's the biggest priority to me

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01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: in free agency because it's a different conversation from free

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01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: agency to the draft. Right in free agency, I think

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01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 1: it's center, I really do. I think it's battling left

2231
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 1: tackle as the most important position along the offensive line,

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01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: and with just how much you need a veteran presence

2233
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 1: there and with how important that is for getting guys

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01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 1: lined up and getting everyone on the same page. I mean,

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01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: just watching the film of the Bills from last year,

2236
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 1: how many times there were miscommunications and how many times

2237
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 1: that probably could have been avoided by the center getting

2238
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: everyone on the same page. And part of that is

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01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback too. I mean you have to, but when

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Speaker 1: you have a young player, you need a presence for

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01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:19,639
Speaker 1: the offensive line said all right, point everything out, get

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01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: everybody on the same page. So that's why I think

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01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 1: it's of vital importance. And when there's a couple of

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01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: guys out there, I mean Matt Paradis from Denver is

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01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 1: the one that everyone's talking about. The guy that I like,

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01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Mitch Morse from Kansas City. I mean he's going to

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01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 1: be twenty seven next year. Paradis is going to be thirty.

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01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: Mitch Morse is probably going to be a little bit

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01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: less in terms of how much you have to spend

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01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 1: for him. But we've heard Brandon Bean talk about being

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01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: judicious in free agency everything like that. So to me,

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01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 1: Morris is someone with a little bit more upside, a

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01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 1: little bit more time of his career where he's in

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01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: his prime, and he definitely performed the job admirably in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City last Joey had a good conversation couple of

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Speaker 1: hours ago today on the Show with Eric Wood about

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Speaker 1: how do you identify what type offensive line you might

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01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 1: need and what constitutes a good offensive line. He had

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01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: some interesting things. I would advise anybody to go back

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01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 1: and listen to it. It is pretty good. But one

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01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,680
Speaker 1: thing that strikes me is most teams and most fan

2262
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 1: bases don't like their offensive line. Everybody's looking for something better.

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about John Miller. Relatively young players,

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01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,600
Speaker 1: got substantial amount of starts in his career, has not

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01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 1: had a tremendous amount of success. But if or when

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01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: he probably will hit the free agent market, he's gonna

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01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: make some money. Somebody's gonna pay John Miller and a

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01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 1: couple of other guys too. I just don't know if

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01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 1: we're just trading parts around here on offensive lines, and

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Speaker 1: if it might not be maybe the most important position,

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01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: second most important after quarterback in terms of scheme and coaching.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Oh absolutely, I mean it

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01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 1: really is critical they get the guys you want playing

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01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 1: the way you want them to play. It is. I mean,

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01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 1: teams have had to completely revamp the way that they

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01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: address the offensive line because of how poorly these NFL

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01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 1: draft aspects are prepared to play in the NFL. It's

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01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 1: the game is so different now, it's night and day.

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01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: It's night and day. So when the guys are the

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01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 1: big schools, I mean, yeah, they all stand there and

2281
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 1: watch the sideline before the snap and then nobody put

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01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 1: their hands. Nobody puts their hand on the ground. That's

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01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 1: the thing different offensive line in the NFL. You gotta

2284
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 1: have your hand on the ground, and you got a

2285
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: run block, you gotta pull, you gotta run, and you

2286
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:21,680
Speaker 1: got a zone block. You got to do it all.

2287
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 1: And that's why free agency for offensive line is so

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01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 1: important and they're gonna get paid handsomely and for good reason.

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01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they're find when you have the potential guys

2290
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 1: in the draft which there were, it was a lot

2291
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 1: higher of a hit rate, you know, back when when

2292
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 1: the gap between college and pros really wasn't as steep.

2293
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 1: But when you have when you have that factor going

2294
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 1: into it, and you have the centers that you really

2295
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 1: need the centers to be on top of task. So

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01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 1: you have those guys hitting the open market, they're gonna

2297
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 1: get paid really well and for good reasons. Is that

2298
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 1: if for the Bills, is that your top target for

2299
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 1: them for free agency? Yeah? Center, center, And then I

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01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 1: would probably say in terms of offensive line, offensive tackle,

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01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 1: finding one if you can find a left if if

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01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 1: they're interested in Donovan Smith, go for it. Then figure

2303
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 1: out what to do with Dion Dawkins. I don't know

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01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 1: that would be as compelled to do it for the

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01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 1: right tackles. Jordan Mills on his way out. Do you

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01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 1: think he's a free agent? I mean, he's been here

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01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,759
Speaker 1: a long time. He has held on to that starting

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Speaker 1: job for a long time. And I think you say

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01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 1: that like it's a negative. I think it shows that

2310
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: he's he's found a way to make the roster and yeah,

2311
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:35,760
Speaker 1: some good offensive lines a couple of years ago. I know,

2312
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: I think he's a replacement level player. I really do.

2313
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 1: And that's just from watching him for years and years

2314
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: and years now. I mean four seasons of starting for

2315
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 1: Jordan Mills and Buffalo. He's he's had his time here.

2316
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if they strike out, sure, he's always there

2317
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 1: like a home run, and free agency that hits the market.

2318
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's right Jordan Mills. No, I mean,

2319
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,600
Speaker 1: the Bills just resigned him last offseason for for what

2320
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 1: like a mill and a half two million. It wasn't

2321
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 1: wasn't that big of a deal, So I don't think.

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01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll like hit the market hard if

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01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: the Bills are interested in finding a right tackle. I

2324
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: wonder if a guy like Daryl Williams will be right

2325
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: up there Alley and Carolina guy. Of course, um Brandon

2326
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 1: Bean knows him well, so I wonder if he might

2327
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: be their cup of tea. There's a lot of Internet

2328
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:21,879
Speaker 1: chatter about the Carolina linebacker Thomas Smith being a Buffalo

2329
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 1: Bill target. What do you think, I don't know, Davis,

2330
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean or tomat Yeah, okay, Um, he's a weak

2331
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 1: side backer, which unless he wants to become, you know,

2332
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: a special teams slash leader guy. Sure, But if you're

2333
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 1: just people connecting tops, right, I mean you're not going

2334
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 1: to start him over Matt Mulatto, right, That's that's for sure.

2335
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 1: And I mean does he actually just want to be

2336
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:47,560
Speaker 1: a backup? I don't think he was so, so it

2337
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. So free agency comes and goes,

2338
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: and the bills are they delve as deep as they

2339
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: can get value. You know that, and they've said it,

2340
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 1: and it makes great sense that they're not going to overspend.

2341
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 1: They're not gonna get a and that's why, you know,

2342
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 1: we talk about in our Twitter poll, we're gonna we're

2343
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 1: gonna get a guy like Jadevian Clowney or somebody, and

2344
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 1: we did that with Mario Williams. You bring these big

2345
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 1: guys in, it's hard to get the value out of

2346
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: those contracts. So I would imagine the bills would stick

2347
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 1: to guys who feel like, Wow, this is a great

2348
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 1: contract I want to earn, you know that kind of thing.

2349
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: Guys with a chip on a shoulder, good character. So yeah,

2350
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,719
Speaker 1: they're going to spend, though they spend a bit, They've

2351
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 1: got some money to do it. And I think I

2352
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 1: would rather seem to get a bunch of guys and

2353
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 1: have some guys a couple of guys overachieve than to

2354
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 1: get one guy who is a star player who takes

2355
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 1: it out of gear. The only thing that counters that

2356
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 1: argument is the contract they gave it to Star Latula

2357
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: last year, which was probably above what his market would

2358
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 1: have indicated, but they felt so They felt it was

2359
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 1: so essential to his character to commend play hard well true,

2360
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 1: and they had nothing at one technique and they didn't

2361
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 1: want to. They have they had to put money into

2362
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 1: defensive tackles somehow, they had to put some resources into it,

2363
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 1: and they work getting a great free tech um in

2364
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: free agency. So for them, they thought it was worth it.

2365
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 1: So I think maybe in the case of Center, when

2366
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 1: you look at I mean go back to Carolina. Ryan

2367
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Khalil was was their guy for forever and they paid

2368
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 1: him handsomely, and so they know the value of a center.

2369
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean, how about the guy you had on your

2370
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 1: show earlier today. They gave him a fat extension even

2371
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: when they didn't have to at that point in the year,

2372
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 1: and I think it was in August of twenty seventeen,

2373
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 1: And that's how highly they value the position. So when

2374
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 1: it comes to when it comes to center, I think

2375
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the spot they could they can make a big,

2376
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 1: big strike. All right, So they saw all this happens

2377
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 1: in free agency. Then what happens when the draft rolls around?

2378
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 1: What do you see the free agency? What about receivers? Yeah,

2379
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 1: about Tyroll Williams, John Brown, I love John Rod. I

2380
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: think I think Tyrell is going to get paid. I

2381
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 1: really do. I mean you're talking about a guy entering

2382
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: the prime of his career, huge target, NFL love size,

2383
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 1: he has speed, and he's shown he can produce in

2384
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: a bigger role. Um, I think he there is a

2385
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 1: chance he makes eleven twelve million year. Do you want

2386
01:55:57,560 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 1: to sign Tyroll Williams for twelve million years? One of

2387
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 1: my well was keeping him from what was keeping him

2388
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 1: from making Sammy Watkins money like fourteen a year? Well,

2389
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, sammybody will pay that. Sammy tantalizes you with

2390
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 1: his raw ability, and that's that's just that's just him.

2391
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we know how incredibly talented he can and

2392
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 1: the potential that's there, and it's still um he's still

2393
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 1: very young for him. So I don't know if Tyrell

2394
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: is gonna make Sammy Watkins but but he's gonna get

2395
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 1: paid for sure. John Brown um, which which brought up,

2396
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 1: I like him. I think the Bills were in on

2397
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 1: him last year. Try to be uh, you know, it

2398
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 1: all depends on what they're looking for. I think what

2399
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 1: they need. They need a slot They need a slot receiver,

2400
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 1: yeah badly. Um Zay Jones isn't it. Robert Foster isn't it.

2401
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Isaiah McKenzie is it. So when you

2402
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 1: when you need a slot receiver, maybe a guy like

2403
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: Adam Humphreys, maybe you just wait for one in the

2404
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 1: draft because there's a lot of good receivers out there.

2405
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 1: That gets to Steegs question about the draft. What do

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01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 1: you see the Bills looking into the draft? Um, I

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01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't rule out pass rusher and three technique defensive tackle

2408
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 1: with the first pick at nine. If they stay there,

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01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 1: they do have a great opportunity. By the way, Denver

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01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 1: sitting there at ten, they need a QB. If they

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01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 1: have their heart set on Drew lock or if Dwayne

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01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: Haskins is off or is still on the board. I mean,

2413
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 1: that's a great opportunity for the Bills to move down,

2414
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 1: grabs more picks and the second or third round and

2415
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: and uh and still get good value to wherever they draft.

2416
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 1: But you talk about the in terms of the first round,

2417
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:28,440
Speaker 1: the value in this draft defensive line, I mean they

2418
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 1: I mean a guy like Ed Oliver could be there

2419
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 1: for him if they trade trade down in like like

2420
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteenth. Overall, there's a bunch of edge rushers

2421
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 1: that you can find in this scraft. Automobile. He is huge,

2422
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:45,040
Speaker 1: it's so I mean, knowing how much they prefer prototypes

2423
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: in size here with this regime, I think he would

2424
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 1: be up there alley. So there's there's a lot of

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01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 1: different areas they could go. I don't think they would

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01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 1: be necessarily dead set on, you know, adding an offensive

2427
01:57:56,400 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 1: lineman at ninth. Overall, it's different a year in the

2428
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 1: draft because there's not that five six quarterback bonanza with

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01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 1: people willing to mortgage everything to get there at which

2430
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,000
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying about, maybe Denver wants to

2431
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 1: move up. We really want to move up to nine

2432
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 1: to get the kid from Missouri. I mean, is he

2433
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 1: gonna get anybody? I'll tell you what, Denver has been

2434
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 1: striking out left and right with quarterbacks since Peyton Manning.

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01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't we talking about Paxton Lynch case

2436
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: Keenum now Joe Flacco. What a terrible trade that was

2437
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:29,800
Speaker 1: for Denver? Oh my goodness. I mean, you're you're trading

2438
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick for one of the worst contracts

2439
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL, for a guy who is away past

2440
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 1: his prime. I mean, come on, let's let's John always

2441
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 1: got to be better. He's got to be able to recognize, well,

2442
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 1: here's quarterback ta with a little bit better. And I

2443
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 1: get kind of hammered for saying this because I probably

2444
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 1: don't articulate it. Well, one thing I give John Elway

2445
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 1: credit four is washing guys through there. He doesn't case

2446
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 1: Keenum thirty all this. A lot of GM's wouldn't do that,

2447
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't eject case keenum to say something. They'd fix something else.

2448
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: They say, listen, Yeah, but you're signing him in the

2449
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 1: first places. You're giving him credit for cleaning up his mistakes.

2450
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: You're giving him no credit for trying to fix his

2451
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 1: quarterback issue. No, well, you gotta fix it. You gotta try.

2452
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: You have to try every single year, I'm telling you,

2453
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: not every How many quarterbacks have Denver had a ton? Yeah?

2454
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 1: A ton? How many have say, like the Washington Redskins

2455
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 1: had like two? How many have the Dallas Cowboys had one?

2456
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 1: They got this Deck Prescott, he come on. He has

2457
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: literally tried about the Arizona Cardinals they got like one.

2458
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 1: Hang on they He has tried to rectify it about

2459
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 1: six or seven times and has failed every time. It's

2460
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 1: not easy, of course, it's not easy, but you gotta

2461
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 1: get it right. And you've only got certain choices every

2462
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 1: time you washed through. And he had he had the

2463
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 1: chance to draft Josh Allen or Josh Rosen last year,

2464
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 1: and instead he chose a pass rusher. I get now

2465
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 1: that I agree with that. I mean he wants to

2466
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: agree with He thought to himself, hey, we're good with

2467
01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 1: case keenan okay, buddy. Right after after the Yearcase Kingdom had.

2468
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 1: I think Case Keenum fooled a lot of people because

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02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 1: I remember they had Kirk Cousins, Kem they had who else?

2470
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:10,720
Speaker 1: Lit it up? Last year? They had all these guys

2471
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 1: that were coming. Alex Smith was gonna get traded. He

2472
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 1: was gonna be out of Kansas City that had all

2473
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: these named quarterbacks that were gonna come available last year,

2474
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 1: plus the quarterback class of the you know five guys

2475
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: that were taking in the first round, right, So there

2476
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 1: was a lot of choices last year and he took

2477
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 1: one of them. And I agree with you the guys

2478
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 1: that the people and the New York Giants should be

2479
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 1: vilified for not taking one of these guys. Huh. I

2480
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:38,360
Speaker 1: like Squon Barkley, good kid, great player. No no, everyone

2481
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 1: was screaming it from the mountaintops. It is draft unbelievable

2482
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 1: that the New York Football Giants passed on one of

2483
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks that was a generational class and they have

2484
02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. I mean, I like Eli too, but come on,

2485
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 1: that was I can't believe they did that. Ye Joe,

2486
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 1: thanks for this. What's going on over their Channel seven?

2487
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:58,840
Speaker 1: It's pretty much the Keith Redford farewell tour right for

2488
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:01,640
Speaker 1: the last So I'm going about three years and make

2489
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 1: sure you tell him I said that. Oh, of course,

2490
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 1: of course I will. He always asked if I ever

2491
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:08,920
Speaker 1: come on the show. He's like, oh, how's John Murphy. Yeah, yeah,

2492
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 1: he's a good man. Yeah, he's a great guy. Um,

2493
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 1: I have a great You're on vacation coming up, so yeah, vacation.

2494
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for carving out some time for us, and of course,

2495
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:18,120
Speaker 1: thanks for having Joe Joe Mascali. You can follow us

2496
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 1: Bills coverage on Channel seven here in Buffalo. WKBW TV

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02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 1: Sports director There, Steve and I coming back, and we'll

2498
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 1: come back with more discussion about our Twitter poll. Today.

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Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health from Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back one Bill' slive from one Bills

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Speaker 1: Drive again thanks to Joe b Joe Muscalia from Channel

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Speaker 1: seven in Buffalo. He is a draft guy, Steve and

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02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 1: yuh um. He first popped up onto my radar. He

2504
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:55,480
Speaker 1: was at w g R Radio, our flagship here in Buffalo,

2505
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 1: and right he was at the Combine and I had

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02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 1: dinner with him and Mark Gone in Indie one night

2507
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 1: and I came away saying, Wow, this guy knows his

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02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: draft stuff. He still does. He does a great job

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02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 1: over there Channel seven. Thanks to him for joining us

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02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 1: on the show today. He had the right answer to

2511
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:15,080
Speaker 1: for our Twitter poll. And I don't know if you're laughing.

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02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 1: If you have a position, we can't pin you down.

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02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 1: The minority says that you're wrong that this year is

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02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 1: more important than last year. So that's the question. Is

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Speaker 1: this offseason more important than last offseason for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like the way in we got phone lines open,

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Speaker 1: but only for a few more minutes eight three five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. You can vote in the Twitter poll, which

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02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 1: is going very one way so far today. It has

2521
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 1: right from the start on the Twitter poll, it's it's

2522
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 1: a landslide, folks. On the Twitter poll eighty twenty eight

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Speaker 1: twenty and I'm trying to oh, here is seven hundred

2524
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:54,520
Speaker 1: votes in. Is this off season more important than last

2525
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 1: year for the Bills? Eighty percent of you say yeah,

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02:02:56,680 --> 02:02:59,160
Speaker 1: it is. No, it's not. I say, I'm in the

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02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 1: twenty percent, and Steve is right in between the yes

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02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,760
Speaker 1: and the know there somewhere I am. I'm debating myself

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02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:07,280
Speaker 1: and I can't really come to a conclusion except that

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02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:12,240
Speaker 1: the reason I think this one is so important is

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02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:20,280
Speaker 1: because the last one was so important, right right, go on,

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02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:23,680
Speaker 1: So you know I think it's I don't think you

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02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:28,800
Speaker 1: can put one offseason ahead of the other. The only

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Speaker 1: reason last year's, I would say, is less important because

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Speaker 1: it's past. This next one is important because it could

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02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 1: make or break the franchise. It could put the franchise

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02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 1: on a trajectory or put them in a place where

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02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:42,120
Speaker 1: they haven't been for twenty five years. They could put

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02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:44,200
Speaker 1: them deep into the playoffs and a contention for a

2540
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 1: super Bowl. This offseason could do that. Last off season

2541
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 1: could have done that, but it didn't. Quarterback question, but

2542
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 1: it didn't. We need you to step back. We need

2543
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:57,400
Speaker 1: you not to be a prisoner of the present, step

2544
02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 1: back and take a historical view of the France. Last year,

2545
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 1: a lot was at stake five quarterbacks, five premium quarterbacks

2546
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 1: in that draft. Bills, as you said, with the twentieth

2547
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 1: overall selection, had to maneuver. First, had to identify who

2548
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 1: they wanted. I think they boiled it down to Josh

2549
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:17,760
Speaker 1: Allen or Sam Darnold. Had to maneuver to get in

2550
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 1: position to do that, and then had to do it.

2551
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 1: And now they have a potential. I'm not saying he's

2552
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 1: a finished product. I'm not saying it's a done deal.

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02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:27,160
Speaker 1: He is a certainly a strong candidate though to be

2554
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo's franchise quarterback. They got him last year. That's infinitely

2555
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:34,200
Speaker 1: more important than just about anything that will go on

2556
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:35,920
Speaker 1: over the next couple of months with the Bills. I

2557
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:44,160
Speaker 1: believe maybe maybe it's okay. Yeah, I think when you

2558
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:46,440
Speaker 1: step back in the big picture and look at all

2559
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:48,680
Speaker 1: of them. It's the reason you can say that now

2560
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 1: is because this offseason has not happened. This offseason, it's

2561
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 1: easy to say how important that one was because you

2562
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: don't have this one to reflect on. You know it's

2563
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 1: coming up. Got to say, because there's so many future

2564
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 1: possibilities that this off season could spin off into. This

2565
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 1: one has the potential to be way more important than

2566
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:13,640
Speaker 1: last year's, even with the quarterback included, but it also

2567
02:05:13,720 --> 02:05:18,440
Speaker 1: could be disastrous. And last year's in February of twenty eighteen,

2568
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 1: you could have said that about the twenty eighteen off

2569
02:05:20,440 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 1: That's right. It's hard. It's a diffic question. It's because

2570
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:30,760
Speaker 1: you're asking to assign importance to something that hasn't happened,

2571
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:35,520
Speaker 1: and the ramifications span the spectrum of positive negative, and

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02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 1: it's you know, you're it's an impossible answer, Wayne, and

2573
02:05:39,360 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 1: Tanna Wand has an answer not so impossible for Wayne.

2574
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:46,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Wayne around the air with this. This This

2575
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:48,680
Speaker 1: is Wayne from Tana Wand. Oh, Wayne and Tel, what

2576
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:51,320
Speaker 1: did I say? Am I'm sorry? Wayne, go ahead, Wayne

2577
02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:55,080
Speaker 1: wrong Wayne right Church wrong wing? Wow, And I think

2578
02:05:55,160 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 1: that this last season is by far more important than

2579
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:01,440
Speaker 1: last off season from the development mental perspective of the players.

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02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 1: This year, Josh Allen hopefully will be the number one

2581
02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 1: on the depth chart and get all the off sea

2582
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 1: and help that he needs. What makes you think he

2583
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be number one on the depth chart? He was

2584
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:14,720
Speaker 1: number three in the depth chart. Our number one guy

2585
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 1: got traded away to Dallas for the second round pick.

2586
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:21,760
Speaker 1: So we wasted an awful lot of last season. What

2587
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:24,120
Speaker 1: are you talking about? What are you? What are you

2588
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:27,800
Speaker 1: talking about? What? Wayne? Hey? What I'm talking about is

2589
02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 1: this last season is definitely more important than last I

2590
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:35,240
Speaker 1: know you said that, But why is that? Because because

2591
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:39,040
Speaker 1: last last season Josh Allen was still the lowest person

2592
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:41,160
Speaker 1: on the depth chart, not getting any of their reps,

2593
02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 1: not getting any okay, go ahead, yeah, okay, go ahead,

2594
02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 1: and what else? This year, he's hopefully he's gonna be

2595
02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 1: number one. Is his number one? He was number not hopefully,

2596
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 1: but yes, he is definitely number When they broke camp

2597
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:56,840
Speaker 1: last year, he was number two in the depth chart.

2598
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:01,080
Speaker 1: That's right. Only people say away the number one guy,

2599
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 1: the week before. Well, he was the number three guy

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02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:07,360
Speaker 1: the week before. Right, right, they traded away the number

2601
02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:14,320
Speaker 1: three guy the week before. Thanks Wayne, Okay, thank you,

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02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:18,880
Speaker 1: Puzzling Mike and nors Shanawanda, Hello Mike, Thanks Murph, high Steve,

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Speaker 1: God's your answer for you? Good cheers. Draft. This year's

2604
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 1: draft is by far and away the most important. It

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02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:32,000
Speaker 1: was great to get Josh Allen, but we have a

2606
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,840
Speaker 1: lineup that has more holes in the can Swiss Chiefs.

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02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:40,680
Speaker 1: You guys tell me how many players we should put

2608
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:44,520
Speaker 1: in a position where they're untouchable and you know, and

2609
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:46,680
Speaker 1: then compared to what we have to replace and what

2610
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 1: we have to improve upon if we don't get the

2611
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:55,280
Speaker 1: talent for Josh Allen, getting Josh Allen isn't gonna matter. Besides,

2612
02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 1: you don't want Josh Allen to get beat up for

2613
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 1: three or four years until team comes around and then

2614
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing left of them. But this year, by far

2615
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:08,640
Speaker 1: and away, is the most important. Well, answer is predicated

2616
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:12,760
Speaker 1: on Josh Allen. Josh Allen came last year. Murph, don't

2617
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:16,360
Speaker 1: twist it now. I admire your passion, but I signed

2618
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: fault in your logic. Okay, all right, isn't it, but everything,

2619
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:23,960
Speaker 1: your whole answer, your whole argument is based on having

2620
02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:26,520
Speaker 1: Josh Allen surrounding him with talent. They got Josh Allen

2621
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:28,600
Speaker 1: because of what they did last offseason. All right, let

2622
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 1: me and let me ask you this, Mike. You're going

2623
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:34,080
Speaker 1: down saying all these guys are expendable. Okay, so okay,

2624
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:38,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's not expendable, right right, all right, as Tremaine

2625
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:43,320
Speaker 1: Edmund's expendable for me and players defense, of course, But

2626
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:45,520
Speaker 1: you said players. I mean, there's a lot of guys

2627
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:47,160
Speaker 1: on this You got a defense it was number two

2628
02:08:47,200 --> 02:08:49,160
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and you're ready to kick

2629
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:52,240
Speaker 1: all those guys at the curb just for Josh Allen. No,

2630
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm not Murph. That defense isn't going to be number

2631
02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 1: two this year unless they could find a way to

2632
02:08:58,640 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 1: get some pressure on the passer. They couldn't get the

2633
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:02,440
Speaker 1: pressure on the past or last year, and they were

2634
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:05,040
Speaker 1: number two in the in the league. How many years

2635
02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 1: is that going to happen, Steve, Well, it happened one year.

2636
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 1: When how many years does it have to happen? If

2637
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:14,720
Speaker 1: they can be number two, Steve, they're not gonna They're

2638
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 1: not going to stay in that lofty position and number

2639
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:21,480
Speaker 1: two playing that softball that they play what they played

2640
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:23,600
Speaker 1: number two defense, that they were a number two defense

2641
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:26,000
Speaker 1: in the National Football League and they had no offensive

2642
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:30,280
Speaker 1: help zero. How good are they going to be if

2643
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 1: they get a couple of wide receivers and start start

2644
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,800
Speaker 1: scoring maybe seven points a game more than they did

2645
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:38,879
Speaker 1: this year, and the defense gets maybe one extra turnover

2646
02:09:38,920 --> 02:09:41,560
Speaker 1: a year, or that offense rushes for more than sixties

2647
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 1: two yards a game or whatever it was they rushed for,

2648
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 1: and what happens if the offense starts scoring points? Then

2649
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 1: how good is that defense gonna get? Pretty good? Thanks, Mike,

2650
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,440
Speaker 1: One more call. We'll try to squeeze in, Steve. I

2651
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,360
Speaker 1: know you want to do true and false. See if

2652
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 1: we can get a call in here, Mark and Buffalo

2653
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:59,480
Speaker 1: go ahead and mark around the air. Hi, guys, I

2654
02:09:59,640 --> 02:10:02,240
Speaker 1: think the previous color, I'm not sure I came in

2655
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 1: a halfway through might have touched down a little bit

2656
02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 1: of what I was about to say. I think there's

2657
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:11,080
Speaker 1: two differences here. I think last year the guys went

2658
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:14,080
Speaker 1: out and they went and hopefully found the hardest thing

2659
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:17,200
Speaker 1: to find in pro sports, which is a franchise quarterback.

2660
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:21,520
Speaker 1: Right that doesn't mean that, and that's very, very important.

2661
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:25,360
Speaker 1: But if you look at the NFL, franchise quarterbacks can't

2662
02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 1: do it alone. And to me, if they don't, the

2663
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:32,080
Speaker 1: offensive line is the heartbeat of a football team, without

2664
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:34,680
Speaker 1: a doubt. They can cover up so many things, they

2665
02:10:34,720 --> 02:10:37,200
Speaker 1: can help a defense out, and you know, they can

2666
02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:39,280
Speaker 1: control the game, the pace of the game, the whole

2667
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:43,120
Speaker 1: nine yards. And if we don't fix that interior of

2668
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 1: that offensive line this year, Josh Allen, Well, we may

2669
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:49,520
Speaker 1: never find out for truth, the truth if he truly

2670
02:10:49,640 --> 02:10:52,080
Speaker 1: is a franchise guy, because I think it could derail

2671
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:56,800
Speaker 1: his development for the next two or three years. Yeah, Mark, Mark,

2672
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 1: You're you're exactly right. And I think one of the

2673
02:10:59,680 --> 02:11:01,640
Speaker 1: things to notice about before we head to a break,

2674
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:05,320
Speaker 1: Mark this whole conversation and an all day today, this

2675
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:07,800
Speaker 1: whole question. It's amazing to me now that I think

2676
02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 1: about it, after talking about it for almost three hours. Murph. Yes,

2677
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:12,880
Speaker 1: this whole question about whether this is the most important

2678
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:15,560
Speaker 1: offseason and whether it is or not, it all boils

2679
02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:18,960
Speaker 1: down to the off fix and the offensive line. Every

2680
02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:21,720
Speaker 1: conversation we have had has foiled down to their ability

2681
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 1: to get offensive linemen and free agency in the draft.

2682
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 1: Fix everything that's in front of Josh Allen. This whole

2683
02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:32,120
Speaker 1: conversation about how important this offseason is has been about

2684
02:11:32,120 --> 02:11:35,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line. All the callers get down to that,

2685
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:37,480
Speaker 1: and we've brought it up too, and but mostly it's

2686
02:11:37,480 --> 02:11:40,200
Speaker 1: been you and me and Joe touched on it. But

2687
02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:42,440
Speaker 1: even Joe focused on the offensive line more than he

2688
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:44,920
Speaker 1: focused on anything else. I hear you. It's got to

2689
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:46,600
Speaker 1: get the break. We're coming back with more. One Bill

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Speaker 1: as well. Eric Wood joined us, former Bill Center, longtime

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02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:23,520
Speaker 1: observer of the league in the NFL. We got talking

2698
02:12:23,560 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 1: to him about the offensive line play and we asked

2699
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:31,320
Speaker 1: Eric Wood, what makes an ideal NFL offensive line these days? Yeah,

2700
02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:35,040
Speaker 1: I think for a healthy offensive line, you always need

2701
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 1: a mix of veterans, a mix of some young guys

2702
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:41,440
Speaker 1: that are that are going to contribute and play and

2703
02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:45,400
Speaker 1: then your project types. And I think that that keeps you,

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02:12:47,160 --> 02:12:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, with a with a functioning, high quality group

2705
02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:53,200
Speaker 1: for a long time and not just say we're gonna

2706
02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:54,840
Speaker 1: throw a bunch of money in the free agency, we're

2707
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna play a bunch of young guys, or we're going

2708
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 1: to develop a bunch of guys. You know. I think

2709
02:12:59,240 --> 02:13:01,720
Speaker 1: you just need a great nick. Also on the show

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Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell from ESPN, we asked Bill Barnwell if this

2711
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:10,440
Speaker 1: Bill's offseason is more important than last year's. Oh, we

2712
02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:12,280
Speaker 1: don't have that one. I told you we're just gonna

2713
02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:14,360
Speaker 1: do one. What do we learned because we went over

2714
02:13:14,480 --> 02:13:16,080
Speaker 1: on my debating myself. They didn't take it out on

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02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:19,520
Speaker 1: the run now or we had a good show going

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02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:21,360
Speaker 1: until the last all right, I'm gonna take a stand,

2717
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:23,720
Speaker 1: and I think this it's finally ready to commit to.

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02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:28,480
Speaker 1: This offseason is more important than last year's offseason. The

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Speaker 1: stakes are higher. That's why wrong. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: our production assistants, George Blasteff, Coltoney, Thomas honald Or, Kelly Rude,

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Speaker 1: JJ Turto, Kevin Cartis, James Robell, our producer Jay Harris.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, everybody, MURF have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: You two ste enjoyed. It might be a holiday for some,

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Speaker 1: but not for us. We're back here Monday at President

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Speaker 1: President's Day. Not for us. We have acknowledge the presidents.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live returns next Monday at noon. It's presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.