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Speaker 1: this hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and nine

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Speaker 1: four one Sean, you want to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the program. Interesting news On the media mob front, Sarah

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Speaker 1: today as the defamation trial now moves forward, which is

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Speaker 1: and more than a dozen injured, that included Congresswoman Gabby

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Speaker 1: Gifford's now project Veritas. James O'Keefe's group also has had

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Speaker 1: numerous wins on this front. And what's that issue here

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Speaker 1: goes down to the nineteen sixty or Supreme Court Landmark

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how this works out. Now. I don't

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Speaker 1: James joins us now now. Also, he's out today with

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Speaker 1: his brand new book, American Raker. He's done phenomenal work

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Speaker 1: which will go over in the course of his career.

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Speaker 1: winning against the New York Times. Anyway, he joins us now.

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Speaker 1: He's the founder CEO of Project Veritas. Sir, congrats on

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Speaker 1: the book American muck Rakers, and you can get it

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Speaker 1: on Amazon, dot com, bookstores everywhere. How are you? Thank you, Sean,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for having me on to talk about this book,

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Speaker 1: American muck rak All right, let's start with this this

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Speaker 1: York State Supreme Court as it relates to the very

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Speaker 1: pretty similar issue. That's right, Sean, we defeated the New

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Speaker 1: York Times at a big victory and defamation. You sited

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Speaker 1: the New York Times versus Sullivan case. The New York

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Speaker 1: Times had defamed me in September of twenty twenty when

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Speaker 1: they called the videos that we did during the election,

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Speaker 1: The New York Times called the videos deceptive. We sued

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Speaker 1: them for defamation. We get past this huge hurdle motion

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Speaker 1: memos from James o'keeth that you're publishing after the FBI

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Speaker 1: you know, the press, the FBI, the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: But there is some justice once in a while, and

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Speaker 1: You know, it's going to get interesting to watch this

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Speaker 1: because it gets frustrating. You know, you have to make

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Speaker 1: You know, you exposed for example, Amy Rohbacher, you know,

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Speaker 1: People are clearly afraid to live in such a world,

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court is established that that's not protected speech under

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Speaker 1: This book, American Moronckreaker, tells the stories of whist, the

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Speaker 1: sometimes stranger, stranger than fiction. We've been a part of

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Speaker 1: you remember the press, you're doing your version of journalism,

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Speaker 1: which is investigative under cover journalism. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: Where are those lines drawn? Is everything? We do record

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Speaker 1: The lies? Oh, oh my gosh. Let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: When you have to have an interpreter speak for you

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Speaker 1: do we have a president? Well, I mean the truth.

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Speaker 1: Nobody can follow it because it's not based on truth.

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Speaker 1: If you tell the truth, it's easy to follow. Then

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Speaker 1: there's facts behind it, there's a basis. There is no

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Speaker 1: basis when there's lives. These lives are compounding. It's not

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Speaker 1: just affecting the media and people's day getting aggravated, but

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Speaker 1: it's actually affecting us financially and our safety throughout the world.

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Speaker 1: We have Americans that are there in Ukraine. What's going

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Speaker 1: to happen to the Americans that don't evacuate. Is it

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Speaker 1: going to be the same thing as Afghanistan because of

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Speaker 1: his lives, because of his food. Listen, I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: right now, if you know someone in Ukraine, tell them

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Speaker 1: to get out, get out, get out now. By the way, Taiwan,

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Speaker 1: same thing, I'd tell them to get out, and maybe

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Speaker 1: probably even Hong Kong as their crackdown is getting worse

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Speaker 1: every day. But that's a different issue for a different day.

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Speaker 1: You just don't know. But look, I don't think Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden is running the show. And it's funny because I

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Speaker 1: don't think anyone would consider Ryan's previous or former Senator

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Speaker 1: Scott Brown flamethrowers. And I asked them both that they

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Speaker 1: think that Joe Biden is making the call at the

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Speaker 1: White House. Neither one believes that. Bill Mark, and it

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Speaker 1: was Bill Marr this weekend said something to the effect

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Speaker 1: that he should be a ceremonial president only and stay

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Speaker 1: away from the public. I mean that speaks volumes about

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Speaker 1: how right we were and how ahead of the curve

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Speaker 1: we wore. And even you know, now we've got Chuck

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Speaker 1: Todd and everybody else's Oh Jo's not looking so good.

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Speaker 1: Our new NBC News poll suggests mister Biden doesn't need

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Speaker 1: a reset because he's lost his identity a bit. He's

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Speaker 1: no longer seen as competent and effective, no longer seen

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Speaker 1: as a good commander in chief, or perhaps most damaging,

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Speaker 1: as easygoing and likable. In fact, just five percent of

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Speaker 1: adults say mister Biden has performed better than expected as president,

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Speaker 1: one of the many lowests, firsts and fewests in our poll.

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Speaker 1: And as we kick off our Meet the Midterms coverage

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Speaker 1: heading into November, the NBC News political unit developed what

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Speaker 1: we're calling a mid term Meter. It's based on previous

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Speaker 1: election cycles. It's basically three poll numbers you need to

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Speaker 1: know best that I'm going to start with the perhaps

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Speaker 1: the most important number to understand the direction of the midterms.

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Speaker 1: Its job approval. Here, the president's job approval rating sitting

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Speaker 1: at forty three percent. If you look at history, history

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Speaker 1: shows that kind of presidential approval rating leads to a

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Speaker 1: shelacking for the party in power. O seventy some percent

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Speaker 1: majority of Americans think he's incompetent. Well, he is incompetent. Well,

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Speaker 1: any tostail lies, and well he won't allow anybody to

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Speaker 1: know who visits him at his home? And who is it?

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Speaker 1: George Soris, who who who are these people that were

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Speaker 1: not allowed to know about Well, they have no problem

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Speaker 1: releasing you know, information about me that I send privately.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, I guess at this point

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Speaker 1: I'm used to it. I should shouldn't be concerned about privacy, right, Um?

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Speaker 1: I thought, just like I believe in freedom and medical

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Speaker 1: privacy and doctor patient confidentiality, all these things, you know,

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Speaker 1: tie together right back to our busy phones. Jake is

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Speaker 1: in Virginia, Jake's a truck or what's up, Jake? What

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Speaker 1: are your truck? Are local routes now? But I used

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Speaker 1: to do over the road currently driving out to work.

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Speaker 1: But when this is like the Obomb administration all over again,

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Speaker 1: gas prices, fuel costs are going up, and if if

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Speaker 1: those mandates would have passed, we would have been a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of troubles and we got a

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Speaker 1: lot of truck drivers on the road. But we have

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Speaker 1: a truck driving shortage of over eighty thousand truck drivers

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Speaker 1: right now. By the way, if supplying demand is applicable

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Speaker 1: to your business of trucking, even though you're paying more

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Speaker 1: to fill up your tank with diesel, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: you're charging you're making more money more profit than you

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Speaker 1: were in previous years because demand is so high. Am

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Speaker 1: I wrong? I'm not making any more. You could be, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean because there's a shortage, right, yeah, but we're

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Speaker 1: not traded the best. Well. I have friends of mine

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Speaker 1: in the trucking business. This is what they tell me.

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Speaker 1: Two things that truckers want. They want the option of

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Speaker 1: either a ten ninety nine or a W two. And

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Speaker 1: they don't want the mandate. That's what they're telling me.

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Speaker 1: Truckers want, and they want to be left alone and

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Speaker 1: left to do their job. Yeah, we need to be

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Speaker 1: able to do our job. Well, I mean, but if

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Speaker 1: you can't with all the regulations, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: a private If that mandate went into effect, there was

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Speaker 1: a statistic on Fox last Friday, fifty fully fifty percent

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Speaker 1: of truck drivers would be ineligible to drive. I mean

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Speaker 1: that would you think we have a supply chain crisis?

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Speaker 1: Now we're dead? I mean, let's be honest here. The

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Speaker 1: role the truckers play and everyday life is incalculable because

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Speaker 1: every item at every store that we go to is

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Speaker 1: because it was brought there by a truck. And it's

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Speaker 1: not an easy life. It's not an easy job you've

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Speaker 1: done over the road. You doing more local routes now,

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Speaker 1: but it's still hard. I'm sure you're putting in an

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Speaker 1: eight ten hour day every day and you got to

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Speaker 1: you know, log those miles to get paid. You probably

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Speaker 1: I would have guessed that if you wanted to go

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Speaker 1: back out over the road, you'd probably make more money

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Speaker 1: at this point because because truckers are in demand. Listen,

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Speaker 1: you can't my friends said, you can't even get any

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Speaker 1: more new trucks. They're just not available. And whether you

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Speaker 1: lease them or buying, you can't cut them. So are

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Speaker 1: you an independent operator? Do you have a or do

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Speaker 1: you have a company? Yeah? A company driver. And it's

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Speaker 1: just I mean the maintenance and upkeep of these I mean,

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Speaker 1: these these trucks go through a lot. I mean when

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Speaker 1: I was over the road, I was averaging you know,

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Speaker 1: five hundred miles a day, wow, and some sometimes the

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Speaker 1: weather or you know, the load that I had was

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Speaker 1: was heavy and I'd have to go drive driving through

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Speaker 1: the Rockies. That time I was going through the Rockies

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Speaker 1: and my top speed and I had it to the

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Speaker 1: floor was sixteen an hour. Are you kidding me? No?

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Speaker 1: How come it was that steep, and it was that heavy. Hunh,

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Speaker 1: it's that heavy. And it was that steep, and I

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Speaker 1: was driving a full size, you know, big rig. This

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Speaker 1: wasn't in the middle of winter on ice, wasn't. No, sure,

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Speaker 1: we don't drive on ice. Yeah, that'd be a good

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Speaker 1: idea to park and pull over and watch a couple

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Speaker 1: of shows and have a McDonald's cheeseburger. That's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: All right, my friend, Well, thank you for all you do.

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Speaker 1: We got quick a minute left, Joe and Ella. J Joe,

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Speaker 1: how are you Sean? Great show? Sean. I'm so fired

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Speaker 1: up about David Purdue for governor of Georgia. You know,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's endorsed hip, and I'm so fired up I'll

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Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night and say, go, David, go.

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Speaker 1: You know, David's got a great business background, great supporter

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Speaker 1: of Trump. You'll be a great governor like Glenn yunkin

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Speaker 1: a Virginia. So I am really fired up for David Purdue.

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Speaker 1: And Sean, I hope you'll come down to Booze Barbecue sometime.

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Speaker 1: We'd like to present you, uh couge barbecue gig. It

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Speaker 1: sounds good and I might stop at the Varsity while

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Speaker 1: I'm there. Joey love you and llo J thank you. Man.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the call eight hundred and nine for one Sea

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Speaker 1: on our number. You want to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the program, quick break right back