1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: In a word, impressive. At least that was my first 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: impression of Josh Dobbs. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Danny Surrek joins me we talk about the Cardinals newest quarterback. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: He's been with the team for less than a week, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: yet he very well. Maybe the team's week one staughter, 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: zach Ertz will he played week one, plus a whole 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: lot of roster shuffling, who's coming and who's going first? 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Though some birthday shout outs. We'll leave it up to 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: you to determine who is more important. It's Cardinals Cover two, 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: episode six sixty eight, and it starts now. 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acycardinals 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: dot Com, Slash Podcasts. 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: The ten half of five. He's in again So far 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Perry Magic. 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig griolud. 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: So on this date in nineteen eighty three, do you 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: know what happened? 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: Dan? 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's hard because I was not even a thought 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: yet for my parents. 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: But I haven't idea where you're going. 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Oh that was just that was not that was not 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: good for me. I walked into that. 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: All right? 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: Well, Okay, on this date, August thirty first, nineteen eighty three, 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald was born. The man is forty years young 30 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: on August thirty first. 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: And is anybody else celebrating on birthday on August thirty first? 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: There is? I don't know exactly what year. And because 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I value my job and my role within the Arizona Cardinals, 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: I'll just say this, happy birthday, Darren Irvan. 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: Happy birthday at car It's chatter. 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Our immediate boss, but not are over not my boss? 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: Oh wow? Okay, So you didn't have to get him anything, basically, 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: is what you're saying. 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: I told him happy birthday. 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: I did two and that was the extent of it. 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 3: That's good enough, right, I mean, Darren didn't get me 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: anything else for my birthday? 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: Fair point. Okay. I hope the two of them are 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: having great days on August thirty first. All right, what 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: did not happen on August thirty first, but what happened 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: earlier this week? Danny, we had the opportunity to see 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: and then here from new quarterback Josh Dobbs. Okay, it 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: was limited what we were able to see. The open portion 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: of practices now are about twenty minutes and it's basically 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: individual following team stretch and then individual drills position drill, 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: So couldn't really gather much information on how Dobbs looked 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: throwing the football. He looked fine. What I will say though, 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: is what we heard from Dobbs after that first practice. 54 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: It was impressive. He is. 55 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: Very well spoken, and you can see why the first 56 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: adjective anybody has chosen to describe Dobbs is intelligent. Off 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 3: the field, Yes, he is an astronaut, he has had 58 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: multiple internships with NASA. Incredibly smart, but it also just 59 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: seems like on the field, that cerebral position of playing 60 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: quarterback and everything happening so fast and having to understand 61 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: and see a lot of things. You get the impression 62 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: that he is smart on that front as well. Impressions 63 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: are great. This is somebody who doesn't have a lot 64 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: of experience. He started two games last year in Tennessee 65 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: when general manager Many Austin for it was also with 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: the Titans. I believe he's only thrown eighty five. 67 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Passes correct and sixty eight of those happened during those 68 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: two games with the Titans, and. 69 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: He's moved around a couple times. It almost feels not 70 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: to compare of in terms of the play, but it 71 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: kind of feels like a Colt McCoy almost in a 72 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: sense of being that backup moving around, being a bunch 73 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: of different schemes, getting the opportunity to start for a 74 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: few weeks until Kyler Murray comes back. So you hope 75 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: that it pans out. I mean, I mean, this staff 76 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: clearly sees something in Josh Dobbs. They wanted to get 77 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: him earlier in the off season, it didn't work out. 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: There's you know, it's full circle that Dobbs ends up 79 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: in Arizona because he was originally committed to ASU and 80 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: then de committed, and then in the off season was 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: deciding between Arizona and Cleveland and went with Cleveland, and 82 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: now he's in Arizona. So it was meant to be 83 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: for him to be here. Dobbs has connections with offensive 84 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: corner Drew Petsing, he has connections with quarterbacks coach is 85 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: He Wolffork, so there are familiar faces for him here 86 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: who clearly like what he brings to the table. And 87 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: if right now it's just Dobbs in tune, you would 88 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: imagine giving up what you did in the trade for 89 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: jobs and doing so after the preseason, and the fact 90 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: that he's not going to get those live reps. Doing 91 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: all of that makes me believe you are starting with 92 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs week one in Washington, and. 93 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: Dobbs even was asked and admitted that the offensive system, 94 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: the scheme similar to what he ran in Cleveland at 95 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: the start of last season with Drew Petsing and Israel Wolffork. 96 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: So there is that familiarity, although as Dobbs mentioned, every 97 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: coach adds their own little tweaks and nuances. Because Petsing 98 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: was a quarterbacks coach, he wasn't the offensive coordinator. But 99 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: you come in here as someone basically within two weeks 100 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: you could be QB one for a team that you 101 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: did not take a single snap during the offseason, training 102 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: camp or preseason games, which is unhurt heard of. Yet 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: at the same time you get the sense based off 104 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: what we heard and then his background of being around 105 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: since twenty seventeen. No, he has not played a lot, 106 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: he has practiced a lot, and he has been around 107 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: a lot in different schemes as far as what he 108 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: needs to do. And I found it interesting that his 109 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: first two starts, his only two starts of his career, 110 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: happened late last season. But just what he was able 111 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: to gather from those two starts. If again we believe 112 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: he will be but if he is QB one against 113 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: the Commanders, he can go back to those two games 114 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: and go, Okay, what worked, what didn't work, What did 115 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: I learn from what would I do differently? And I 116 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: think that will help as well. 117 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: Some experience is better than no experience, and the little 118 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: experience he has is still more than your rookie quarterback. 119 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: Clayton Tune, who yes looked good in the preseason, didn't 120 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: entirely look ready to be your starting quarterback with some 121 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: of the throws and the footwork and decisions that were made, 122 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: which you would expect out of a rookie getting those 123 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: first reps. It just I understand the desire to have 124 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: somebody else start over Tune. And if you didn't feel 125 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: like that was David Blau or Jeff Driscoll and Kyler 126 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: Murray is not going to be ready. He's going to 127 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: start on the pup list, which means he can't play, 128 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: he can't practice for at least four weeks. It makes 129 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: sense why you're going to find somebody else to bring in. 130 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: And if multiple people on this coaching staff, like Dobbs, 131 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 3: were already interested in him, it seems like a natural 132 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: fit to choose Dobbs to come in and. 133 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: Be your quarterback. It's not easy to come in on such. 134 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: Short notice, without training camp, without preseason, and have to 135 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: learn what this staff is asking of you, and also 136 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: learn who your teammates are. I mean, Dobbs had a 137 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: funny story saying, you know, at the end of practice, 138 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: a guy named Hayden ca me and said, hey, you 139 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: were taking snaps for me. My name's Hayden, by the way, 140 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: Like that's just how it happens. Like there's so much 141 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: going on and he's got to learn who everybody is. 142 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: There were a couple of different times during his seventeen 143 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: minutes introductory press conference where he mentioned, you know, what's 144 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: the biggest challenge what does he need to do first? 145 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: And it was learn my teammates and not just learn 146 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: who they are, but learn their names, because I'm sure 147 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: when he got here. It was basically bombarded with a 148 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: number of different people, whether it was coaches or players, 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: and these players are now your teammates. You're going to 150 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: walk into a huddle week one in Washington and you 151 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: better know all ten names, and then whoever comes in 152 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: and out as well. But it's it's very unique. And 153 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: I do like the fact that while you and I 154 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: and many others believe that he is the guy, Dobbs 155 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: doesn't think that or doesn't come across as yes, it's 156 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: my job. I've been told it. I don't know what 157 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: he's been told, but he is competing, and to hear 158 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: him talk, he competes all the way back when he 159 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: was a draft pick of the Pittsburgh Steelers in twenty seventeen. 160 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: You go in with that mindset, Oh yeah, I'm competing 161 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: to be the guy, even though he was backing up 162 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and there was no chance of seeing Josh 163 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: Dobbs in a Steeler's uniform unless Roethlisberger was hurt. But 164 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: it's just that mindset and the expectation, oh yeah, I 165 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: see myself as a starter, the confidence that he has 166 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: to be able to do the job if called upon. 167 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: But there is no expectation. At least I didn't get 168 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: that sense that he has that, Oh yeah, it's my 169 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: job and I'm here and I'm going to be the 170 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: quarterback until Kyler comes back. 171 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: And that's what you need out of Again, Dobbs, who 172 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: has been a backup quarterback this far in his career, 173 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: is that's the mindset you need. How many times do 174 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: we hear that from every backup quarterback Colt McCoy a 175 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: ton of You have to have that mindset if you 176 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: have to go in for whatever reason, that you know 177 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: the place, you know what you need to do, and you. 178 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: Can go out there and you can be confident. 179 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: And so it is nice to hear that Dobbs has 180 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: that mindset as well. It feels like at this point 181 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: this is Josh Doabbs's starting position to lose is what 182 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: it feels like. And in terms of a competition, it 183 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: doesn't end when Kyler Murray comes back, because who's gonna 184 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: be QB two, Right, Like, if Josh Doabbs doesn't perform 185 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: and you have to for whatever reason, put in Clayton 186 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: Tune and rock with Tune and see what he has. 187 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: I mean, there's still competition moving forward right now, the 188 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: Cardinals just have these two quarterbacks on the active roster, 189 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: and Jeff Driscoll will likely be on the practice squad 190 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: because he was released and then we saw him out 191 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: of practice Wednesday. So there's still gonna be movement when 192 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray comes back. So it's not like let me 193 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: just go out, let me, you know, get some good 194 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: tape for other teams for four to six, who knows, 195 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: maybe eight weeks and then that's it, like this will 196 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: continue for the rest of the season and keeping. 197 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Your spot, and you get a sense that maybe there 198 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: is no guarantee after those six, seven, eight weeks that 199 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: Dobbs is here. Depending to your point, you keep two 200 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks on your active roster, which two are those going 201 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: to be? Because if you do release one of them, well, 202 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: now you're subject to waivers if you're a Clayton Tune, 203 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: meaning some team could pick you up. Now, again, no 204 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: guarantee that that happens, but that's the risk you run 205 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: when you release a young player. In terms of Dobbs, 206 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: he would be able to he'd be free to sign 207 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: with whomever he wants based off his veteran vested veteran 208 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: status because he's been in the league for so long, 209 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: but you bring up Kyler Murray and it's something that 210 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: you wonder, was this move or does this move bringing 211 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: in Josh Dobbs signal that we weren't quite comfortable with 212 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: what we had already because Kyler's going to miss X 213 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: amount of weeks and now all of a sudden we 214 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: needed something else because it might be longer than expected. 215 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: Or am I just throwing something out there that might 216 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: not be even be the case. 217 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: That's a great question. You should have asked that in 218 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: a press conference, Craig. Oh wait, I did ask that question. 219 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: All we really got was what we've been getting, which 220 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: is when Kyler Murray is mentally and physically ready to return, 221 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: he will return. But that is the thought that I 222 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: had as well. Of with Kyler starting on Pop, he 223 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: can't practice for four weeks. I don't see it as 224 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: a realistic option that the first day after that forty 225 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: nine Ers game that Monday, Kyler comes back and practices 226 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: one week of practice, he's playing in that game in 227 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: week five. I just don't see that as realistic. I 228 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 3: think you're going to have to bring Kyler Murray back, 229 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: and you have to give him a few weeks with 230 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: practice and his body getting used to that routine and 231 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: having to recover and pushing himself in a way that 232 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: he just hasn't been able to at this point throughout 233 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: his rehab. And so the fact that he's going to 234 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: be out for I would say, right, let's just guesstimate 235 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: if he is going to come back after those minimum 236 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: four weeks of pop, like week six ish, right, Like, 237 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: I would think that you would. 238 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: Need at least two weeks of practice, I would think. 239 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: But that would factor in to this quarterback decision, because 240 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: if you were expecting Kyler to be able to come 241 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 3: back earlier, maybe you just go with Clayton tune. You say, 242 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: you know what, let's do trial by fire. Let's see 243 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: what we have in this kid. What do we really 244 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: need to work on? Does he have a future here? 245 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: But that's not what they're doing, and so that makes 246 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: me think that, Okay, it will be a little longer 247 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: than probably four weeks for Kyler Murray to return, and 248 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: that's why you're bringing in Josh DAWs, somebody who has 249 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: that experience. But I would think that that played a 250 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: role in this. I'm sure that played a role in 251 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: Colt McCoy as well. Of if Kyler was not going 252 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: to start on POP and he's only going to miss 253 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: two weeks, right, like, maybe it would have made more 254 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: sense to keep somebody like Colt, But since that's not 255 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: the case and they clearly want somebody who's a little 256 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: more mobile. I'm sure you know it all factored in together. 257 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: Of this all starts with Kyler Murray and how long 258 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: he's going to be out, which affected releasing Colt McCoy 259 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: and bringing in Josh Dobbs and releasing David Blau and 260 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: just putting Jeff Risk on the practice squad. It all 261 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: is under the umbrella that comes from Kyler Murray's timetable 262 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: to return. 263 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: And if you are a player on the physically unable 264 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: to perform list, it is rehab and watch. Zach Ertz 265 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: I thought was good when he addressed the media earlier 266 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: this week because he was asked what you can and 267 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: cannot do when you are on the PUP list, and 268 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: he mentioned and I was not quite aware of this. 269 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: I knew you couldn't practice, but you can't even do 270 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: any football activities. He and Kyler Murray could not even 271 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: run routes or throw the football. And that was something 272 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: that seem and I got the sense even from Zach 273 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: that seemed a little odd that you couldn't do that. 274 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: Can't play catch with your quarterback who's also. 275 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: On popp Yeah, so literally no football activities. That's taking 276 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: a snap from center, even if it's just you and 277 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: someone else, or you're throwing the football to someone else, 278 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be a player, just anyone. No 279 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: football activities. So to think that Kyler Murray is gonna 280 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: come off pop on August excuse on October seconds. I 281 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: believe that's the Monday after the forty nine Ers game 282 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: and then be available week five, week six. We might 283 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: not see him until week seven or even eight, which 284 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: is not a big surprise at least for me. I 285 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: don't know what your expectations were, but it was always 286 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: going to be sometime in October when we see number 287 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: one on the football field. 288 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: It makes sense to me you can't play catch on 289 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: the sideline because I think you just start going down 290 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: a slippery slope of how much can you do and 291 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: what can't you do? So I get that, but but 292 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: I do have the same thought as you as it 293 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: feels like it's not just going to be four weeks. Look, 294 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: they can keep Kyler Murray on POP for six, eight 295 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: weeks as long as they want. It's just a matter 296 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: of when you're on that pup place, you can't practice. 297 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: So while it will be a great step forward when 298 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: he comes off that list at whatever point that is, 299 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: I don't equate that to saying Kyler Murray's gonna be 300 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: ready to start that next game. 301 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting because now all of 302 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, that October second dates becomes what we all 303 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: circle on the calendar, and that's the next time we 304 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: get to ask, Okay, what's the update, Because until we 305 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: get then, it doesn't matter because Kyler can't do anything 306 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: until October second. Unless you know that's the date you're 307 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: either coming off or you're staying on the publist. 308 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: And Kyler won't be the only one who's going to 309 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: be out for a minimum of four games because the roster. Yes, 310 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: for initial fifty cuts to fifty three have happened, but 311 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: this roster is constantly going to be inflexed. We've already 312 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: seen that with Cardinals making a few waiver claims getting 313 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: a league high six players. But there's going to be 314 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: players who are going to be moved, likely to IR 315 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: and that's going to keep them out. That's also a 316 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 3: minimum of four week so it's it's going to be 317 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: some roster movement still these next couple of days throughout 318 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: you know, into next week before Week one in Washington. 319 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: But there are players who we who have been dealing 320 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 3: with injury that we didn't see out at practice Wednesday. 321 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: We already know that center Pat Alfline rookie center John 322 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: Gains are done for the year because if you put 323 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: a player on IR before those initial roster cuts, you're 324 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: done for the year. And that was the case with 325 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: elf Line and Gaines, which just a bummer for the 326 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: rookie who was getting second team snaps, getting a lot 327 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: of looks in the preseason, a lot of reps coaches 328 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: talking very highly of him. 329 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: That's that's a huge bummer. 330 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: A knee injury for Gains, and he was going to 331 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: be active on game day. He was going to dress because, 332 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, backup center can play the interior in 333 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: the in a pinch, he could play some tackle as well. 334 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: He's ad versatile, and that's what this coaching staff wants, 335 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: versatility along the offensive line. Dennis Dally we found out 336 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday head coach Jonathan Gannon saying Daly's ankle injury 337 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: is going to keep him out week one against the 338 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. Now we don't know how serious of an 339 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: ankle injury. We just know that it's week one. Speaking 340 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: of which zach ertz Off pupp But even he wouldn't 341 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: say I'm going to play week one. Didn't I wouldn't say. 342 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: He didn't sound confident. I don't think he just didn't 343 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: want to put something out into the universe and then 344 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: have it backfire on him. I believe week one is 345 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: the goal. Everyone wants him to play, but just to 346 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: kind of hear him say, oh, yeah, no, I still 347 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: got some things I need to work through or test 348 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: and then see how my knee responds, not just the 349 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: next day but a couple of days after I'm out 350 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: there for full practice. 351 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: That yes, And also because we've learned we're not going 352 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: to get any sort of information that's going to be 353 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: considered a competitive advantage to keep close to the chest, 354 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 3: So we will supposedly not be told who the starting 355 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: quarterback is week one in Washington, and so until we 356 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: see team. 357 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: Warm ups and we see. 358 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: That will leak out yes either late Saturday. Yea. 359 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, when it comes to zach Ertz, well, yes, 360 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: I do agree that he's probably not wanting to commit 361 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 3: to anything quite yet, just with the injury he's coming 362 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: off of and having not you know, seen any reps 363 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: in the preseason and all of that. 364 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 4: But I also just think it's. 365 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: It's a it's a theme that we're really not going 366 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: to know a lot about injuries or starters or any 367 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: of that. 368 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: You'll know, though, I mean the bulldog mentality that you 369 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: have as a reporter. You'll find out all this stuff. 370 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: You just won't share it. 371 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 4: I just can't share with that exactly, not even. 372 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: Me here on Cardinals cover two presented by Hundai, proud 373 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona card is really unfortunate. But that's, 374 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, that's the difference between Danny and everyone else 375 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: that you. 376 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: Know, everyone else. 377 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: She keeps things quiet and keeps her secrets. Not a 378 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: lot of people do that. So I give you promps. 379 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: Thanks. 380 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: You know more than you let on. 381 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: In other words, I think that's a compliment, So I'll 382 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: keep it. Thank you, all right. 383 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: You brought up the six players claimed there were three 384 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: offensive linemen, including two centers which were very much needed, 385 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: two defensive backs, and one tight end who was a 386 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver in college. Let's go over the names. Anyone 387 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: that stands out or you want to discuss, but the 388 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: three offensive lineman center Tristan Colan and center Keith Ishmael, 389 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: and then an offensive lineman can play both guard and tackle, 390 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: ELM Manning. Ishmael and Manning both claimed off the forty 391 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: nine Ers after they were released, and Cologne from the Jets. 392 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: Any one of those stand out? Are you expecting contributions 393 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: right away right away? No? 394 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: I think at this point your starting offensive line is set. 395 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: But to me, it's going to be that five for 396 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: your backup center spot because right now that's a huge 397 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: question mark. So so those spots to me are all depth. 398 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: You have your swing tackle in Calvin Beacham, but on 399 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: the interior of that offensive line you really need depth. 400 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: Especially you released Lucita Smith, Marquise Hayes again, Pat Alfline, 401 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: and John Gains not going to play all year on 402 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 3: IR trading away Josh Jones, so a lot of that 403 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: depth now is up for grabs. So that's what I'm 404 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: looking for with those offensive linemen and who is who's 405 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: going to be on that second team. 406 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: Interesting to see what happens with that backup center because 407 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Ishmael does have starting experience. It wasn't or it hasn't 408 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: been since twenty twenty one when he was with the Commander. 409 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: Spent last season on the forty nine ers practice squad, 410 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: and then Manning is a local kid out of Glenda, 411 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: went to Apollo High School, so a little bit of 412 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: a homecoming for him. Someone that the Cardinals did spend 413 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: a lot of time, according to Jonathan Gannon during the 414 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: pre draft process, someone that they liked leading up to 415 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: the draft. Didn't draft him, perhaps they tried to sign 416 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: him in as an undrafted free agent. Instead, he chose 417 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: to go to the San Francisco forty nine ers. So 418 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: you get someone that at least maybe you haven't had 419 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: in the building, but you at least did your homework on. 420 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: Not that they didn't do their homework on all six players, 421 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: but there seems to be a little bit more with 422 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: Manning and the fact that he is so young. You 423 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: bring them in and hopefully you can develop them. 424 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, again, it's it's to a certain extent, who you 425 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: know right at this point, and Ganna talked about this 426 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: in his press conference. You're not necessarily talking to other 427 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: coaches because you want to keep your cards close to 428 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: the chest on what you like and what you were 429 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: using or envision using a player for. But coaches talk, 430 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: and when you have those connections somewhere like Josh Shabs, 431 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: when you have those relationships, it goes a long way, 432 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: no matter how. 433 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 4: Much time has passed. 434 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: The tight end that was claimed Elijah Higgins claimed after 435 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: he was released by the Dolphins' former sixth round pick 436 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: out of Stanford, so teammates with Michael Wilson six ' three, 437 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: two thirty five, the Dolphins used him as a tight end. 438 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: On Thursday said they see Higgins as a tight end 439 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: six ' three perfect type. It's the two thirty five, 440 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: how how physical, how big is he to where you 441 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: can block and be in a three point stance and 442 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: line up against a defensive end or an edge rusher. 443 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: He's young, but two thirty five, that to me doesn't 444 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: really signal tight end. It's single sigles signals me basically 445 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: more of a wide receiver or a quote unquote tight 446 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: end that lines. 447 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: Up in the slot right because you would be bringing 448 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: him in as a blocker. You have Zach Ertz, you 449 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: have Trey McBride, and those are going to be more 450 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: of your past catching tight ends. And you have Jeff Swayin. 451 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: Who's that blocker for you. I know that the team 452 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: released Blake Whitehart, but he seemed to be doing good work, 453 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: So we'll see if maybe he ends up on the 454 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: practice squad or how that kind of pans out. But 455 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: you're right, you would be bringing him in as more 456 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: of that blocking tight end, which we've been told to 457 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: be on the lookout for more twelve and thirteen personnel interesting. 458 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: ESPN's Philed Yates reported on Thursday that there were five 459 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: teams that put in a claim on Higgins. Cardinals were 460 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: one of those five. 461 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: Hey, it pays off being third that or pays off 462 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: being bad the year before. 463 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: But as Field Yates tweeted out, the most popular player 464 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: who was released part of those waiver cuts was Elijah Higgins. 465 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: So it's not just the Cardinals that saw something in him. 466 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: There were a number of different teams. And then on 467 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: the defensive side, Cardinals claimed a cornerback Starling Thomas, who 468 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: was waived by the Lions. Someone went went undrafted and 469 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: then safety Cavon Wallace, who if there is someone of 470 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: those six standing that is going to have maybe more 471 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: of an immediate impact than anyone else, it is going 472 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: to be Wallace one. It's the position playing safety, he 473 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: becomes now just the third safety in that room with 474 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson and oh yeah, former Philadelphia 475 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: Eagle Jonathan Gannon Nick rollis both familiar with him. Did 476 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: not play a lot of defense. Just looking at a 477 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: snap count from a year ago, one hundred and sixty 478 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: four snaps on defense, three hundred and twenty three on 479 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: special teams. But someone that maybe you can in the 480 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: eyes of like a Josh Woods who hasn't seen a 481 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: lot of time on defense but is on the roster 482 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: because the special team is just waiting for that opportunity 483 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: to get the tap on the shoulder, say hey, go 484 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: play some defense as well. But Cavon Wallace, I would 485 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: think you see not only active, but on that defensive field. 486 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: No, I agree that that makes sense on a lot 487 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: of it because of the position that he plays. There 488 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: is not depth really at all at that position. So 489 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: it's a great opportunity for him to come in and 490 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: make a difference there. 491 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: And it's through three. 492 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: Four weeks, three weeks, three weeks that the Cardinals will 493 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 3: hold the third spot. 494 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: Oh, the third you claim a player, you have to 495 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: keep them on the active Sorry, but the. 496 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: Order, Yes, I think it's three weeks. 497 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: Because it's it's from the draft order, and then moving forward, 498 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: it's it's how the league is shaking out week by week. 499 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: So Cardinals will have a few more weeks where unless 500 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: Texans or Chicago wants a play or above them, right Chicago. 501 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: No Texans? And why am I blanking? 502 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: Why can I not even think now? One and two? 503 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 4: Thank you? I was right Chicago, Thank you, Cody. I 504 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 4: was looking. 505 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: I couldn't see if it was you were right, were right? 506 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: Was right? 507 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: So always right? 508 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 4: Thank you? So cut that, Cody. 509 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 3: So unless Chicago or Houston wants a player and the 510 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: Cardinals want them, I'll come to Arizona. 511 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: By the way, the Cardinals had no players claimed on 512 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: all their roster moves. They had no. 513 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: Maybe that's a good thing. 514 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, Yes, that's what I see envisioning when you 515 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: cut a rookie wide see run drafted rookie and someone 516 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: like Daniel Arius or a tight end like Blake Whiteheart 517 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: of players at this coaching stuff really seemed to like 518 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 3: it's just it's maneuvering the roster spots and you can 519 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 3: only fit fifty three players on there. But you still 520 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: have those players who you like and you want to develop, 521 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: and you want to have the opportunity to call them up. 522 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: And again, the roster's still gonna be in flux. So 523 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if we see players like white 524 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: Hart or Arius end up on the practice squad. 525 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: Or even a Marquise Hayes, Ben Stilly, Javante Moffett. There 526 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: were Those are the players that got released and now 527 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden can find their way back onto 528 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: the practice squad. We've already seen some players on the 529 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: practice squad, but nothing officially announced by the Cardinals. And 530 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: I don't think this as far as the fifty three 531 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: and the sixteen man practice squad. I wouldn't be too 532 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: comfortable until we get to maybe next week, that Monday 533 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: bonus practice on Labor Day, or even that Wednesday, your 534 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: first quote unquote official practice of the regular season, because 535 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: now you got teams claiming players, and then you claim 536 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: a player, you have to release a player. So now 537 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a whole batch of players 538 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: that are available for teams to put in another waiver claim. 539 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: So between now and next week there could be still 540 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: some moving parts. And then with the health of some 541 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: of these players you mentioned injured reserve, you get placed 542 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: on IR right now that's missing the first four weeks, 543 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: So we don't know the health and status of a 544 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: my j Sanders, Dennis Gardeck, Marco Wilson. I mean there's 545 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: three huge defensive pieces right there that we're not quite 546 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: certain of, and we won't be unless we see them 547 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: on the practice field next week. 548 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: Right, Still still plenty of movement that can be had 549 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: between now and week one in Washington. 550 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, but your position is secure. 551 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 4: Correct You tell me, do you know something I don't. 552 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't you know what I do know? 553 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: You know a lot crags, so I don't want to guess. 554 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Is On Thursday, tune in for the latest episode of 555 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals Flight Plan. Go to the YouTube page YouTube dot 556 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: com forward slash Azy Cardinals, and this episode of flight 557 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: Plan details the coordinators defensive coordinator Nick Rolis, offensive coordinator 558 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: Drew Petzing, Special teams coordinator Jeff Rodgers, some behind the 559 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: scenes work during training camp, the joint practices with the 560 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: Vikings again. This latest episode premiers Thursday, seven pm on 561 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals official YouTube page. And this is this is 562 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: what I like because it's the behind the scenes, not 563 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: with the players. You get to know who they are 564 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: as people, but the coaches, like what are we gonna see? Like, 565 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: are we're gonna see more x'es and o's and schemes 566 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: or more of what they do? Ie Jeff Rodgers likes 567 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: to ride his bike sometimes to and from the facility. 568 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: Not now because it's one hundred and ten degrees out, 569 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: but that's what he likes to do. 570 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: No, these are I was actually, uh, I got the 571 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: chance to be and some of this stuff. I conducted 572 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: some of these interviews, which was a lot of fun 573 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: out in Minnesota. I mean, these coordinators are just so 574 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: interesting to talk with even just passing by them in 575 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: the facility and the energy that they have and they're young, 576 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: and that's not a knock on any other you know court, 577 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: It's just it's a different vibe, right, It's different energy, 578 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: and it just it's it's really nice talk to them 579 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: and get to see their personalities. It doesn't really take 580 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: much to open them up. So I think it's going 581 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: to be a pretty good flight plan episode. 582 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: They're not that much different talking about Rowlis and Petsing 583 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: then the head coach, as far as the energy right 584 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: and the excitements, and just how they're always quote unquote 585 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: on I mean, they're genuinely yes, and it's not it's 586 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: not an act. It's not like, well they appear one 587 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: way on camera or in front of a microphone and 588 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: then behind the scenes there are something else now that 589 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: is that is not the case, which you see is 590 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: what you get with the head coach and his two coordinators. 591 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: Jeff Rogers a little bit more reserved. Although I love 592 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: talking with Jeff about stuff, it's just he is so experienced. 593 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: He is very experienced and knows what to say and 594 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: what not to say, especially if you get him on 595 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: the record. 596 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 4: The dry humor too, it kills me. I love it. 597 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: But he is someone that you can saddle up to 598 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: on the sideline during training camp and have a conversation 599 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: during eleven on eleven or whatever, and that's you know, 600 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: he's a good guy. 601 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: Our video department works so hard and gets so creative, 602 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: and I know that we have tweeted out on our 603 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: Twitter at Easy Cardinals a teaser clip and it's of 604 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: Jeff Rogers on his bike. And what some people don't 605 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: think about is like, oh, that's cool, he's riding his bike. Well, 606 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: you got to think about the people who are shooting 607 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: it and to find a way to record an interview 608 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: where somebody is riding their bike and you are getting 609 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: footage on a camera. You are not getting in the 610 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: way to where you're hitting them with the car or 611 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: the bike or whatever you're on. You're getting them in 612 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: focus and you have to set up somehow. They did 613 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: it through an airpop, but you're conducting an interview like it. 614 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: I mean, just props to our entire video department, our 615 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: producers and editors and everybody who has a hand on it, 616 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: which is our entire department. It's just I love these 617 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: episodes and the work and the creativity that goes into 618 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: them is really impressive. 619 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is you were not riding your 620 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: own bike alongside Jeff conducting this interview. 621 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: This shoe was like before the sun came up, Craig, 622 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 4: So what's wrong with that? 623 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: That's when you have to ride your bike because it 624 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: gets too warm. 625 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: You know what. 626 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: I think they had a list of people and I 627 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: was going to be, you know, on deck. I was 628 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: the first filling if they needed and they just they 629 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: didn't need a sub so I got to sleep in. 630 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: Okay, you were like, just you just barely. 631 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 4: Missed the barely missed the cut, huge bomber. 632 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: Okay again. The premiere episode or the premiere of the 633 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: latest episode of Cardinals Flight Plan Thursday night, seven pm 634 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals YouTube channel Tube dot com Forward slash 635 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: Azy Cardinals go behind the scenes with the Arizona Cardinals defensive, 636 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: offensive and special teams coordinators. By the way, speaking of 637 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: the video department, when we last talked here on Cardinals 638 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: Cover two, we promoted game on. I think it's only 639 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: fitting that we kind of finish that story. And I'm 640 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: not exactly sure who exactly won. But the interesting food 641 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: combinations was a fun watch with you and bij Ojulari again. 642 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: Go to the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube page. But this 643 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: seemed like a playoff of James Corden's Spill your Guts 644 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: or Fill your. 645 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good segment, you know what. 646 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: It was more of a challenge rather than a competition, 647 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: but considering the fact I ended up being the one 648 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: having to eat an oreo. Yeah that was not so 649 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: smothered in mayonnaise, makes me the loser. My stomach really her, 650 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: I don't like mayonnai's. I wasn't the one who dipped 651 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: it like it was one of our producers and she 652 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: just dunked that entire I mean you can see in 653 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: the video BJ like he's staying next to me, he goes. 654 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: I can smell that. It smells disgusting. He is just 655 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 3: the nicest person. The fact that he was one willing 656 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: to do that type of interview with me, I did 657 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 3: make sure he knew after it does like, look, not 658 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 3: every interview is gonna be this. 659 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, here comes Danny. She's gonna make me eat something. 660 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, it was like the rest of the year. 661 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: I promise the interviews will be normal. I'm not gonna 662 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: make you eat making anything. We'll talk more football. But 663 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 3: just such a nice person, and just to get a 664 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: chance to hear his story of a little bit on 665 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 3: rehabbing and the unique rookie offseason he's had, just because 666 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 3: he's been rehabbing that knee that he ended up having 667 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: a little a little work done on after the draft, 668 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 3: but getting to him to talk about his family and 669 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 3: his brother Ziz, who plays with the Giants, who he'll 670 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,959 Speaker 3: get to see in the Cardinal's home opener week two, 671 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 3: his family lineage, and the fact that he is a 672 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 3: legitimate prince. But not to worry Cardinals fans, He's not 673 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 3: gonna leave Arizona to go sit on the throne, he said, 674 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: He's so far down the line that's. 675 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: Not not possible. 676 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 3: So you're not going to lose your your draft pick there. 677 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: But it was just it was really fun for him 678 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: to see that his personality and in this game, and 679 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 3: and seemed like he had a good time. 680 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: So do we have to address him as Prince BJ 681 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: or Prince I don't think it would be fun because 682 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm guessing once his teammates found out about that his 683 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: nickname in that locker room has to be Prince. 684 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: Prance, we'll have to We'll have to follow up and see. 685 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: By the way, this is how nice of a guy 686 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: BJ is, and I've had very little interaction with him. 687 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: But the fact that you lost one of these challenges 688 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: and it was mustard on crackers. 689 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 4: And the lemon, the lemone, Well, that's. 690 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: Right, and the lemon was that's right. BJ joined in 691 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: because he felt. 692 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: So bad because he kept getting all the good prizes 693 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 3: kept losing. 694 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: That he said, okay, you know, I'll have something. 695 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 3: You participated in the that was the one that when 696 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 3: he hadn't and I felt like I owed him since 697 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 3: he did participate in the sour lemon wedge with me 698 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 3: because he felt so bad for me. 699 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 4: Yes, it was. It was a lot of fun. Fun. Shoot, 700 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 4: you know, I like doing those game ons. 701 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 3: They're just so different and get a chance to really 702 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 3: see see who they are as people and get a 703 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: closer look at their personality was fun. 704 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: Again. It's on the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube channel. Go 705 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: to Aisycardinals dot com for more information and uh yeah again. 706 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: Premiere or the premiere of the latest episode of Cardinals' 707 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: Flight Plan also on the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube channel 708 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: as well, and go to Aisycardinals dot com for more 709 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: information for that. All right, we're gonna let Danny go 710 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: get some real food. 711 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 4: Banks. 712 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: Is that good? So your your stomach is not gonna hurt? 713 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 4: I'm a little hungry right now. 714 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: No. 715 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: Normally, whenever we have press conferences, and I haven't had 716 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: a chance to eat lunch yet. I'm thinking myself, Oh, 717 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 3: I hope Darren can't hear my stomach rumbling sitting next 718 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: to me. 719 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: Well, if it ever gets picked up by the microphones, 720 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: that's one we'll have some real problems. But hopefully not 721 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: that loud. 722 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 4: Hopefully not all right, Well, let's. 723 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: Get Danny fed, and on that note, we will put 724 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented 725 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 726 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Malmro our associate 727 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: producer Cody Fincher for Danny Surrek, I'm Craig Rayoloo. We'll 728 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.