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Make sure you follow us there. 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: And the last but not least, keep dropping mail back 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: questions in those YouTube comments so we can keep getting 47 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: to them on Fridays throughout the rest of the season. 48 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: All right, this first question one I actually think is 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: super fascinating and I'm excited to get into it a 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: little bit. Hello, Jason, Who has a better chance of 51 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: winning an NBA championship in the next three to five years? 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: Is it the Rockets or the Magic Very interesting on 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: a couple of different levels, because there's a bunch of 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: variables involved, Like, for instance, one of the variables, Orlando's 55 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference, so it's less likely that they'd 56 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: have to win four playoff rounds against elite teams, whereas 57 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: for Houston they will almost certainly have to beat four 58 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: consecutive elite teams to win a championship. Also, Houston is 59 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: far more likely to make a more aggressive trade because 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: they've got kind of a logjam in their rotations, some 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: guys that are awkward fits. You'll wonder about a guy 62 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: like Jalen Green and if he's ready to lead this roster. 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: And so I could see a team like Houston panicking 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: is the wrong word, but just pushing their chips in Earlier. 65 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: That said, in terms of the organic talent that they 66 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: have in house, I think Orlando is more capable of 67 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: reaching the championship level in house without having to make 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: some sort of all in trade than Houston is. So, 69 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: for instance, when I look at Houston and I look 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: at their core pieces, I know what Shangon is. I 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: think Shangoon would be. I talked about this a little 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: bit in the Thursday Show. But if Shangguon becomes a 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: better jump shooter and a little bit better on defense, 74 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: I think he can be the second best player on 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: a championship team if you pair him with an elite 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: like perimeter player that he can play two man game with. 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a really solid foundation. But if I 78 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: look at Jalen Green, a guy that I think still 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: has potential to reach a pretty high level in this league, 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: but he's pretty far away from that at this point. 81 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Jabari Smith Junior, I think is a very good player 82 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: all around, but he's certainly not that number one option 83 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: type of perimeter talent. Fred Van Vliet isn't that guy either, 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: So like, and you know Reachepperd. We got a question 85 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: about Reachepperd later in the show, but read Shepherd. We 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna be yet, but it doesn't 87 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: look like he's gonna be a number one perimeter initiator, right. 88 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: So Like as I look at Houston, it's like I 89 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: have this thing that I understand really well in Shingoon, 90 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: but the rest of the guys, it's like, who are 91 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: they gonna be? Like what about a Men Thompson? Like like, 92 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what a Men Thompson's gonna be, but 93 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: he could in five years be a really high level 94 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: offensive player because of his feel for the game if 95 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: he polishes things up on a skill level. So, like 96 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: Houston in house talent, not quite sure what they're gonna 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: be yet. Orlando, I feel like Palo Franz and Jalen 98 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Suggs are are as as sure a thing as you'll 99 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: find for like a core big three to build around. Now, 100 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Jamal Mosley and those guys are going to have to 101 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: figure how to play for each other and with each 102 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: other better than they have as they've been underachieving on 103 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: the offensive end relative to their talent. But I do 104 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: think the in house talent with Orlando makes more sense. 105 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: So would that be the case. Who has a better 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: chance of winning an NBA championship in the next three 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: to five years. I'm gonna say Orlando, but I think 108 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: there's always that chance that Houston just gets super aggressive, 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: jumps in and gets some superstar. They put him on 110 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: that roster with that elite defense and with Shangun kind 111 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: of anchoring things as the other half of that partnership, 112 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: and I could see Houston getting it done. So again, 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: both teams have the chance. Orlando might more likely to 114 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: do it organically, and because of that, I think they're 115 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: more likely overall, because that's the other part too, is hard. 116 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to convince the superstar to really 117 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: want to go to Houston too, so they might have 118 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: some limitations and what they could do on a trade anyway, 119 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Thank you Jason for the video. A mailbag question what 120 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: do you think so far this season of the league 121 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: parody between the two conferences, let's say strictly the first 122 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: six teams of each conference. It looks like the Magic, 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: Knicks and Calves have all taken leaps and the Rockets, 124 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: to me, are not going to sustain this level of success. 125 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Oka See is Legit is very much legit. Though, let 126 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: us know, thanks again for the great content. A couple 127 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: stats of eighteen teams in the NBA right now that 128 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: are five hundred are better. Eleven of them are in 129 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: the West, so it's evened out from where it was 130 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: at the start of the year, but still a substantial 131 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: advantage there. In ninety seven head to head matchups, the 132 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: West is fifty six and forty one so far this year. 133 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: It's a fifty eight percent win percentage. It's pretty high. 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: My contender rankings as of right now. If I was 135 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: ranking my top four, Boston is a clear number one 136 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: to me. Okay, See is a clear number two, Dallas 137 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: is a clear number three. Number four is up in 138 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: the air, but I think I'd go Dallas or Denver, 139 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: excuse me. So like for me, if I'm ranking the 140 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: top four championship contenders, I still have three Western Conference 141 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: teams in there. But if I go to five and six, 142 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: I think I go New York Knicks, and then I 143 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: think I go Cleveland Cavaliers. So three of the top 144 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: teams and the best team are in the East. So 145 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: with that being said, I think the top of the 146 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: East is every bit as good as the top of 147 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: the West, if not a little better because of that 148 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: Boston factor. But there's no doubt that the depth of talent, 149 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the depth of star talent, the head to head stuff, 150 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: it's all pretty clear that the Western Conference is substantially 151 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: stronger and tougher on a night in, night out basis 152 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: than the Eastern Conference. Despite Chet being out for a 153 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: considerable amount of time, the OKC Thunder have still been 154 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: comfortably the best defensive team in the league. With this 155 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: being said, do you think Chet's impact defensively isn't as 156 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: big as we thought? A couple things. First of all, 157 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: there's a difference between like big picture defensive ratings stuff 158 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: and like how good are we when the Chips are 159 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: down defensively against an elite offense in a high leverage situation? Right, 160 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. The Thunder are super good defensively 161 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: on the perimeter that is the most important spot to 162 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: be really good defensively. Also isay, Hartenstein provides a pretty 163 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: high floor defensively. We're gonna there's a conversation that we're 164 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: gonna have here in a few questions that centers around 165 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: what the most valuable type of role player is and 166 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna be bringing up Hartenstein as an example. And 167 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: like he's not an elite defensive player, but he's very 168 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: good in drop coverage, you can defend a little bit 169 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: on switches, and he's a good rebounder. So like overall, 170 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: like a guy like that is a decent foundation for 171 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: them to go around defensively. Like, for instance, like with 172 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: you having an elite perimeter defense, a guy like Hartenstein 173 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: is like everything you need in order to continue to 174 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: like build out a strong defensive foundation. That said, when 175 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Sheet comes back, the unique thing with Chet is he's 176 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: both he is an elite rim protector that bothers a 177 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: lot of stuff around the rim while also being a 178 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: pretty quick perimeter athlete who can cover ground and can 179 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: cover ground well. So like the thing is is like 180 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: OKC is maintaining a high level defensively because of all 181 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: of their perimeter talent and because of the foundation that 182 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Isaah Hardenstein helps them establish. But at the end of 183 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: the day, their defensive ceiling, which you really would only 184 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: see in a high leverage situation against an elite offense, 185 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: is just so much higher with Chet because he gives 186 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: you the best of both worlds, elite rim protection with 187 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: the flexibility to fly around on the perimeter. Jason, can 188 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: you please explain to me why it was even a 189 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: thought that crossed the mind of Steph Curry to shoot 190 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: the ball with so much time left on the clock. 191 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: At the very least, a timeout should have been called 192 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: by the coach before the shot was taken, or as 193 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: soon as Gary Payton collected the rebound. Someone pointed that 194 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: out in the comments yesterday was a good point, which 195 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: is that Gary Payton, when he dived on the floor, 196 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: that was probably when things should have been stopped with 197 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: the timeout. A lot of it's happening very fast, though, 198 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: and I talked about this a little bit yesterday. First 199 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: of all, to answer your question what crossed his mind 200 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: is pretty simple. He had Dylan Brooks on him, and 201 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: he had an opportunity to get a decent look that 202 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: would have not only ended the game, but it would 203 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: have been another moment a Dylan Brod expense, which is 204 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: one something that Steph has plenty of, right, So that's 205 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: part that's really the motivation behind it. But I talked 206 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: about this in the show yesterday. I thought of all 207 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: the mistakes that Golden State made down the stretch of 208 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: that game, that was one of the smaller ones because 209 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot more complicated than it looks on the surface. 210 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: In short, he takes the shot and it's a scrum 211 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: for the defensive rebound, and Golden State ends up committing 212 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: the foul with five and a half seconds left. Let's 213 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: say you wait and you go till one or two 214 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: seconds left on the shot clock when you shoot, so 215 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: four or five seconds on the game clock, shot goes up. 216 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Let's say that it's a bad shot because Steph waded 217 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: deep into the clock. Let's save Houston cleanly defensive rebounds 218 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: it and calls a timeout. They're probably getting the ball 219 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: with two or three seconds left. So the difference is 220 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: let's say that the defensive foul doesn't get called, the 221 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: defense of the rebounding foul doesn't get called. The one 222 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: that ended up leading Jalen Green the two free throws, 223 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: and let's say email Udoka just calls a timeout. There's 224 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: five and a half seconds left, okay, whereas the alternative 225 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: is maybe two or three seconds left. So I'm talking 226 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: about the difference in three seconds, which, yeah, that's gonna 227 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: change how capable your team is of getting a stop, 228 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: because two or three seconds a guy's catching, he's ripping, 229 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: he's making one or two dribble move, and then he's 230 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: going into a shot. Four or five seconds, I can 231 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: drive and kick once or twice, right, So yeah, there's 232 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: no doubt that it's easier on your defense if you 233 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: have less time in that situation. But you also have 234 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: to look at the flip side of the coin, which 235 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: is we're playing the result here. Steph got a decent look. 236 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: Steph probably would not have gotten a decent look if 237 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: he dribbled the clock out. All you had to do 238 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: is watch that game and look at all of the 239 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: shot clock violations, the airballs, the blocked shots at the 240 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: end of the clock, like Golden State was really struggling 241 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the clock. So you have to 242 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: weigh that in your head. The difference in trying to 243 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: get a stop with two seconds left, first five seconds left, 244 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: versus I've got a pretty good look against Dylan Brooks 245 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: right now, or I can work the clock down more right, 246 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: And I'm just saying that it's more complicated. So the 247 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: real issue there is that probably shouldn't be called the 248 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: defensive rebounding foul like or a foul on the defensive 249 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: rebound like that. That was where the issue was, Like 250 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: like like let's say the exact same situation takes place, 251 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: but emy Udoka just gets a time out, Houston still 252 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: has to go down and score, which is something they 253 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: really struggled with. So like again we're just playing the 254 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: results here. Steph happened to miss there, happened to be 255 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: a fucking awful call, and so Houston ended up winning, 256 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: and so now we're hyper analyzing the process. But there 257 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: were just way more clear mistakes that were made by 258 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: Golden State down the stretch of that game, like Pojemski 259 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: and Draymond hitting at rebounds instead of grabbing rebounds, Draymond 260 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: biting on the pump fake with Alpern, Shangun Pods ducking 261 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: under a pick against Fred van Vliet, like shot clock violations, 262 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: like there were bigger issues that Golden State had than 263 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: Steph shooting a few seconds earlier and taking a decent look. 264 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: Hey Jason, great content you've been putting out lately. Appreciate 265 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: your takes on the NBA this far thus far, just 266 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: a fun one for you. I know you said Steph 267 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: is your second favorite player, so as a huge Steph 268 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: fan myself, I'm wondering your thoughts on this. If you 269 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: could put Steph in his current form on any team 270 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: right now and replace their starting point guard, how many 271 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: teams would automatically be a bona fide championship contender. Would 272 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: it just be the big hitters like Boston or OKC 273 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: or plenty of more teams. I would love to hear 274 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: your take as a Dubs fan who knows Steph is 275 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: still playing at a high level but our roster construction 276 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: is so mediocre. It'd be so cool to hear how 277 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: many teams you think would be contenders proving Steph is 278 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: still one of those guys if you had a strong 279 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: roster around him. I know it's all hypothetical, but it's 280 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: fun to discuss. Keep up the great work. Greetings from Australia, 281 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna change the question a little bit because 282 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: if you just swap out for point guards there, there's 283 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of teams that like that have 284 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: like like role player point like for instance, like if 285 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: I could just swap D'Angelo Russell for Steph Curry, the 286 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Lakers are a championship contender, right, But that doesn't mean 287 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: that like uh, like it's a realistic type of swap, right. 288 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: So I looked at team if you swapped out their 289 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: best player, Boston I think for sure. And that's not 290 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: a Tatum commentary. It's just that that Celtics roster is 291 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: insaying Oklahoma City for sure. That's not a Shay commentary. 292 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City's roster is just insane. Cleveland for sure. I 293 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: just think they have a really high floor on both 294 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: ends of the floor. There's a backup shot creator there, 295 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: really good defense, really good coach, a lot of athleticism 296 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: on the perimeter. That makes sense to me. And then 297 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: the New York Knicks. I just think Steph is a 298 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: better basketball player than Jalen Brunson, And I think that 299 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: that is a type of environment that if you dropped 300 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: Steph in he would immediately Like I'm not sure how 301 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: much he'd raise that level because Jalen Brunson has closed 302 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: the gap on him in recent years. But I do 303 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: think Steph is better. So those are the four teams 304 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: for sure. And it's just, you know, it's complicated because 305 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: I actually don't think the Warriors roster is bad. They 306 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: just are missing one very important thing, which is a 307 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: reliable secondary shot creator. That's a very strong roster in 308 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: so many different ways. They just need a reliable twenty 309 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: plus point per game forward that can help support Steph Unlock. 310 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: High level two man game with Steph gives Steph an 311 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: option in high leverage physical situations when teams deny him 312 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: the basketball, which has been a consistent issue. Right. So yeah, 313 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: those four teams. Hi, I love your analysis of the 314 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: NBA because you took you look for the overarching concepts 315 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: that are not talked about enough, which is why I 316 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: want you to talk about the following topic. What do 317 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: you believe is the most valuable archetype of role player 318 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: except the three and D wing for Biggs, the five 319 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: out like the five out big like a Heart and Stegn, 320 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: the stretch big like a Turner, or the more traditional 321 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: rim protector like a Kessler for guards the three and 322 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: D like a KCP, the playmaker like Conley, or a 323 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: scorer like Malik Monk. Thank you for your content and 324 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: keep up your grind. Thank you all for all of 325 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: the kind words that you guys have been leaving in 326 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: the comments. They do mean a lot to me. So 327 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to change three and D wing into a 328 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: more qualified term. So, I think the most highigh level 329 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: role player in the NBA right now is the perimeterive 330 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: player that is very athletic, that can guard multiple positions 331 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: both on and off the ball, while also being a 332 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: competent off ball score and a connective piece on offense, 333 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: meaning they make quick decisions and they make good reads. 334 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of players that every team should 335 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: be hunting and trying to hold onto as much as possible. 336 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Why Because regardless of who your star is, regardless of 337 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: who your shot creator is, regardless of the style of 338 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: play that you embark on, that player is going to 339 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: help you no matter what. Now, if I had to 340 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: go with my second most important archetype of player, I 341 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: would go towards a big Now, you broke down the 342 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: three different types, and that's a good way of putting it. 343 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: Like a stretch big, like a big that can shoot. 344 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: A Hartenstein who is kind of like a do everything big, 345 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: or your traditional defensive anchor like a Walker Kestler. Right, 346 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: So I gotta go with Hartenstein, the big pretty good 347 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: at everything, because when I look at a guy like Hartenstein, 348 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: and this is like pretty much a league average center, 349 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: Like if your ranking centers in the NBA, Hertenstein is 350 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: going to show up somewhere between ten and twenty depending 351 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: on who you ask, right, So he's a league average 352 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: starting center in this league. He is a good drop 353 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: coverage big, not a great drop coverage big, but a 354 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: good drop coverage big. He's a good switch big. He 355 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: is a good defensive rebounder. He on the other end 356 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: of the floor is a great screener. He is a 357 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: good connective piece. He keeps the ball moving from side 358 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: to side. He makes great reads. He's in general, just 359 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: a very quick decision maker. Right. That raises the floor 360 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: for my team on both ends of the floor. If 361 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: I feel like Hartenstein is gonna anchor me on the 362 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: defensive end in multiple different coverages while also cleaning up 363 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: the glass while also being the folkrum that ties all 364 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: of my perimeter talent together. That is a really really 365 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: strong foundation for me to build a basketball team. So again, 366 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: like I would probably after I have a good amount 367 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: of those guys that I'm talking about, like I want 368 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: to have at least two, I'd rather have a flawed center, 369 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: like a center that's I'd rather have a center is 370 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: like a stretch big that has some defensive limitations, or 371 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: a defensive big that has some offensive limitations, as long 372 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: as I have lots of those really good perimeter athletes 373 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: that can score off the ball and connect offense. But 374 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: once I have two or three of those, I really 375 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: would be looking for that type of center. I think 376 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: that that is a center that makes everything easier for 377 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: your team on both ends of the four. I really 378 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: think Jason is the best basketball commentator on YouTube, and 379 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I love almost everything he says. But I'm never going 380 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: to get on board with this take about refs that 381 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: whenever they destroy a game, we just have to remind 382 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: everyone that the other team should have outplayed bad reffing, 383 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: which takes away from the reality, which is these shouldn't 384 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: be happening and it's all the ref's fault. So look, 385 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you not to be frustrated, like I 386 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, I used to do this a lot when 387 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: I was younger, and it's stupid. It's like fan police 388 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: telling you how to be a fan. Be a fan 389 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: however you want, and if that involves you getting super 390 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: worked up about officiating, go ahead, Like I'm like that, 391 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: that's that's your prerogative as a fan. I have this 392 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: feeling about officiating from personal experience with the game, like 393 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: I am the guy that has always cared a lot 394 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: about the player's perspective because you know, that's my background 395 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: in the game. I came up playing, and to this 396 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: day I'm I'm that dude who's thirty three and for 397 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: some reason is training to be the best basketball player 398 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: that he can be because he just loves doing it, 399 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's so that's kind of 400 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: my approach now. When I was a player in college, 401 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: I had a coach who had this thought process and 402 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: would talk to us about, Hey, we're on the road. 403 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: There's going to be a bad call or two. We 404 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: have to be prepared for it. We need to try 405 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: to build as much margin for air to make it 406 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: so that that's not the case. That is something that 407 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: is kind of like stuck with me. Over the years 408 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: of that, I MI, my relationship with officials has actually 409 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: changed a lot. When I was younger, I was a hothead. 410 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: I am a very animated basketball player. I communicate a 411 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: lot when I'm on the floor. Guys who've played with 412 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: me or played against me know what I'm talking about. 413 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: But like, I used to get into it with refs 414 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: all the time, and it was actually my wife that 415 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: got me out of it, because there was I had 416 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: a really bad one in Charlotte where I got kicked 417 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: out of a game for double technical and we were 418 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: like walking out to the car, my wife is just like, 419 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: my wife is just like like this is embarrassing for me. 420 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: We joke about it all the time because like as 421 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: an adult now, like as a grown adult, I've become 422 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: very good with officials. I legitimately can't remember the last 423 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: time I picked up a technical foul. And I have 424 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: a very good communicative relationship with the officials and the 425 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: games that I play now. But when I was younger, 426 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: I used to just be like I just just used 427 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: to get so worked up about it. Every bad call 428 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: irritated me and I was arguing the res like what 429 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: you see Luca do on TV like I was doing 430 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: that when I was Luca's age, which is which is 431 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: why I keep yelling at him to cut that shit out, 432 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: because it's just it just doesn't help you, and more 433 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: important anything else, it just distracts you. It distracts you 434 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: from what you're trying to accomplish, Like when you're worried 435 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: about what the refs are doing, when the reality is 436 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: is they're completely out of your control. All that's doing 437 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: is preventing you from focusing on the task at hand. 438 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: And that's really the point. And that's what came brings 439 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: me back to the thought that my coach had for 440 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: me when I was in college, which is, this is 441 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: a variable that is outside of our control. So the 442 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: only thing that we should do is try to build 443 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: in margin for error so that if this sort of 444 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: thing happens, we don't get beat by it. And how 445 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: do we build up that margin for air by focusing 446 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: entirely on things that are in our control. The more 447 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: we do that, the more margin we have. Then the 448 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: ref comes in and decides to co op the big 449 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: moment at the end of the game, maybe it's you know, 450 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: maybe that exact same vowl happens, but you're up five, 451 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: that's a game you end up winning, right, So, like 452 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: it's just about perspective, and my my perspective is always 453 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: going to come from what it was like for me 454 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: when I'm playing, when I was playing in the past, 455 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: or what I'm playing now. That's always going to be 456 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: my perspective. But like again, I'm not telling you guys 457 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: not to be pissed off as fans. If you're if 458 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: you're pissed off about it, be pissed off. It's just 459 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: complaining about revs is not actually going to save your team. 460 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: There's an expression be an active participant in your own survival. 461 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: Like the only way you can participate in your survival 462 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: in a game like that is to make basketball plays 463 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: that are under your control, not to focus on the officiating. 464 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: Do you think Anthony Edwards shot diet is somehow holding 465 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves back even though he's been crazy efficient or 466 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: is it more of a lack of spacing that is 467 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: affecting their offensive cohesion maybe also causing Anthony Edwards lack 468 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: of shots at the rim. So one of the things 469 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: you'll notice about the first of all, I don't think 470 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: to answer the question very quickly. Anthony Erwards is still 471 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: shooting in the mid forties on eleven attempts per game. 472 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: It's still the Anthony Edwards three point shot is one 473 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: of the most efficient shots that the Timberwolves could ever 474 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: generate in their offense. So I don't have any issue 475 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: with him taking them. If he starts missing, then we 476 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: can have another conversation. But it's not something I'm worried about. 477 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: As far as the build for the Timberwolves, there's this 478 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: concept that's been happening a lot in the NBA we 479 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: just saw last night where it's like, Okay, where are 480 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: we hiding shanng goom oh? If we put him on 481 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: Gary Payton, then we don't have to worry about some 482 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: of the stuff that Draymond can do on the role. 483 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: You know, Gary Payne's a lesser shooter, so we can 484 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: hide him there, right Or like Jason Tatum guarding a 485 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: center in Porzingis guarding Derek Jones Junior in the NBA Finals, 486 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: every team is constantly looking for an opportunity to put 487 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: their weakest defensive player onto a non shooter. Every team 488 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: is looking for an opportunity to help in other matchups 489 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: by coming off of guys that they don't view his threats. 490 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: The problem is Jada McDaniels is a guy that can 491 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: knock down a three, but probably won't. Julius Randall has 492 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: had has shot the ball really well at times this year, right, So, like, 493 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to pretend like you can't shoot, but 494 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: he's a guy that most teams on the game plan 495 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: are thinking, he's not Michael Porter junior. We can close 496 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: out on him, and then Rudy Gobert can barely even 497 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: catch the basketball when he's in any sort of traffic, 498 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: which any good defense is going to put you in traffic. 499 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: So the real problem is is that there are just 500 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: a lot of options when you're playing against Minnesota to 501 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: tinker with matchups, leave guys open, pack the paint. It's 502 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: just inherent in their roster construction. Something I've been complaining 503 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: about NonStop. Anthony Edwards is addressing it by becoming one 504 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: of the best jump shooters in the league. And that 505 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: just goes to show you another reason why I think 506 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: Anthony's going to be one of the best players in 507 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: the NBA. He already is one of the best players 508 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: in the NBA, But why he has the potential to 509 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: be a true top top, top tier super in the 510 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: long run is because he has the competitive nature to 511 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: be like, I can't get to the room with this group. 512 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: I need to just get really really good at knocking 513 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: down threes. But yeah, that's why I've been preaching so 514 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: much over the years. Like, I would love to see 515 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: a team take a guy like Anthony Edwards and accentuate 516 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: his superpower, which is his ability to be anybody in 517 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: the world off the dribble. So hopefully eventually they do that, 518 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: hopefully before he loses his athletic burst. Thankfully, Anthony's super 519 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: young and there are many years to figure this out. 520 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: But like, my thing is, as long as Jaden McDaniels 521 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: and Rudy Gobert are your foundational three and five. Unless 522 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: Jayden McDaniels just becomes a deadly forty two percent catch 523 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: and shoot three point shooter, I don't think you're gonna 524 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: see a situation where Minnesota's spacing improves tangibly. Do you 525 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: think Jalen Brunson gonna be the best player in a 526 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: championship series? Absolutely? I mean last year's Celtics are the 527 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: perfect example of that. Now, Jason Tatum's playing at a 528 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: top three or four level this year, but last year 529 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: he wasn't, and he sure as hell wasn't in the playoffs. So, like, 530 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: the point is, if you put Jalen Brunson on a 531 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: roster with that type of talent, they absolutely can win 532 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: the title. The Knicks, it remains to be seen if 533 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: they have that much talent. They especially on the defensive end, 534 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: haven't really put that together. But like, I think the 535 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: Knicks are championship contender this year. Is certainly a top 536 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: six championship contender this year with him on this current roster. 537 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: So if put him on a better roster, I certainly 538 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: think that he could do it. So I would say absolutely, Hey, Jason, 539 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: can you explain in your opinion and basketball reasons why 540 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: one the Rockets aren't using Read Sheepherd as much and 541 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: two why you draft him at all when you paid 542 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: Fred Van Vliet thinks keep out the good work a 543 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: couple of things. Read's been struggling a little bit with 544 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: size and athleticism in the NBA. That'll take time for 545 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: him to figure out. I think it's an adjustment for 546 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: anybody to go to that level, and just in time 547 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: he'll figure out how to compensate that with sharper fundamentals. 548 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: And Reid's a good athlete himself. He just just to 549 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: find a way to leverage it properly right Star. As 550 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: the rotation goes, in general, the rotation is it's just 551 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: very shrunk for Houston. They have a ton of good players, 552 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: it's a bit of a log jam. The reason why 553 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: you make a draft like that, you draft like that 554 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: is look at the roster. You have a Men Thompson 555 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: who maybe has big picture offensive potential, but right now 556 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: is a defensive player, Tarry Easton defensive player, Dylan Brooks 557 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: defensive player, Javari Smith more or less a three and 558 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: D guy, Shane Gun offensive player but plays at the 559 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: center position. As you start to kind of like work 560 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: your way down the roster, Fred van Vliet and Jalen 561 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: Green are pretty much your only two primary ball handlers. 562 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: And Jalen Green is a guy that might not fit 563 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: this timeline. Fred van Vliet is a guy that's almost 564 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: certainly going to go out in a trade if you 565 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: end up making a star trade, and so where that 566 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: advantage is present is like let's say you make a 567 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: trade for a star wing like let's just say brandon 568 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: Ingram for instance, Let's say that they go get brandon Ingram. 569 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: If they go get brandon Ingram and you trade Fred 570 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: van Vliet, suddenly you're down a guard up a forward. 571 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: That could be a position where Reed Shepherd suddenly gets minuted. 572 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where like inevitably Houston's 573 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: gonna make some kind of consolidation trade, maybe not for 574 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: at star, but maybe first Star, and in that case, 575 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: Reay Shepherd's opportunity will open up. But again, like he's 576 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: struggling a little bit with size and athleticism, give him 577 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: some time. He just hasn't really had as many reps 578 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: as you would like to see as well. Right, we 579 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: have five more yo. Jason loved the show. It's probably 580 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: my favorite basketball show currently. I have yet another yokch topic. 581 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: So the discourse lately has been that Yokic's output has 582 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: been so high because his teammates, namely Jamal, are just 583 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: bad lately, and so he has to do everything reasonable, 584 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: no doubt. But I have been considering the opposite, which 585 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: is maybe his teammates are being affected by not his usage, 586 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: but the fact that he dictates everything. What I meant 587 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: to say is what I mean to say is I 588 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: was perusing time of possession stats, not usage, and I 589 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: noticed something. The Nuggets have had three real playoff runs together, 590 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. They were 591 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: competitive in two of them, twenty twenty and twenty twenty three, 592 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: and those playoffs, specifically, Yokic's averages touches per game where 593 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and three Murray's were ninety. In the twenty 594 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: twenty three playoffs, Jokich was at one hundred and eleven 595 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: and Murray was at ninety last year's playoffs. In this 596 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: regular season so far, the split is closer to one 597 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: to fifteen for Jokic and seventy for Murray. So I 598 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: say all that to ask you this, do you think 599 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: there's any possible validity to the assertion that maybe Jokic 600 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: getting one hundred and fifteen touches per game and although 601 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: the stats are insane and the onus is all on 602 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: him and Murray their point guard only getting seventy, not 603 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: to mention Michael Porter Junior and others being relegated to 604 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: spot up standing around guys, again, do you think that 605 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Jokic's play to play dominance is contributing to his teammates 606 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: being out of rhythm, poor play, whatever, and just the 607 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: team's overall issues in general. Obviously, he needs to touch 608 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: the ball a lot regardless. My main question is has 609 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: it gone too far? Is the discrepancy between him and 610 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: especially Murray two wide? And also why do you think 611 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: that is. Do you think it's just because the team 612 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: sucks so he's just doing everything, or do you think 613 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: maybe Murray needs to be forced back into the same 614 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: role he played in twenty twenty and twenty twenty three. 615 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: Same for Michael Porter Junior and Aaron Gordon. Would love 616 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: to hear thoughts. First of all, thanks for the kind 617 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: words and the support. Here's the thing. I don't think 618 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Yo Kicch's touches or his usage affects the team in 619 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: a negative way at all. Whatsoever. He's out a ball stopper, 620 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: he is a ball mover. He is dictating a lot, 621 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: but he's doing it as the part of the process 622 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: of generating advantages. The point is this is not Luka 623 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: Doncic dribble the ball off the floor, wait till thirteen 624 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: or fourteen seconds on the shot clock, spread ball screen, 625 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: kick out pass with four or five seconds on the 626 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: shot clock for a guy to maybe take a catch 627 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: and shoot three or drive to close out one time. 628 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: Denver is constant motion side to side, trying to get 629 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: guys involved, trying to create advantages. Jokicch touches the ball 630 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: a lot. He is the fulcrum that makes everything work. 631 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: But very rarely is Yokich just dribbling the air out 632 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: of the basketball or just standing there with the basketball 633 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: for extended periods of time. The big reason why the 634 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: touches are shifting is just because Jamal is not playing 635 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: well in a basketball and there's a natural flow that 636 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: takes place, like you'll find like you'll find that like 637 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: if you come out to start a game and that 638 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: your point guard hits like a pull up three in 639 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: a ball screen, and then hits a floater in a 640 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: ball screen and then hits another three and like a 641 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: transition situation, and he's got eight points in the first quarter, 642 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: Like he's in rhythm and he's feeling good, and that 643 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: team might play through that guy more throughout the game. 644 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: If he misses that first pull up three, maybe he 645 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: doesn't take the floater, misses the transition three, Maybe you 646 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: play through other guys for different for other parts of 647 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: the game. That's not to say you go away from 648 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: that guy entirely, but basketball games tend to like kind 649 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: of naturally find the player that's in rhythm. That's just 650 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: kind of the way it goes. Smart smart basketball players 651 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: will do that. They'll just get the ball to the 652 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: guy who's in rhythm. There's gonna be a natural dip 653 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: in Jamal Murray's touches because he's not playing well. You 654 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: don't want to stop feeding him entire but they haven't. 655 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: He's still getting seventy touches a game, as you said, 656 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: But like you'll see, if Jamal gets it going, if 657 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: he gets back into form, his touches will increase commensurate 658 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: with that. I'm just saying from my like, I'm watching 659 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: Jamal not move as well. I'm watching Jamal not get 660 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: as much lyft on his pull up jump shot. There's 661 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot more that goes into Jamal Murray's struggles 662 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: than just he's not getting enough touches, is my point. 663 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: And the last dead giveaway for this is, have you 664 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: guys looked at the offensive rating when Yo kitch is 665 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: on the floor? Denver is scoring. It's like it's like 666 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: almost one hundred and twenty four points per one hundred 667 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: possession when Yo Kitch is on the floor, despite all 668 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: these guys struggling. So it's like the opposite of the 669 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: LaMelo ball thing, where like with the Lamel ball, he's 670 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: putting up monster numbers but the team can't score. Yokic 671 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: is putting up monster numbers. And Denver is historically great 672 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: offensively when he's on the floor. So like, I don't 673 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: think the issue is anything to do with Jokic. It's 674 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: just he has accentuated, leveraged his own greatness to cover 675 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: for his teammates who are out of rhythm. As his 676 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: teammates come out of that funk, and Jamal has a 677 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: tendency to play his way into shape and peak at 678 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: the end of seasons, as Jamal gets his shit together, 679 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Jokic will parse back his touches and you'll see that 680 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: one fifteen number come back down to one oh five 681 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: or whatever, and you'll see Jamal Murray's ebbs go back up. 682 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be on him to dig himself out of that. 683 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: Joki is gonna keep setting monster screens for him, keep 684 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: running two man game for him. He still gonna get 685 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: opportunities the lead second units. Jamal is gonna get all 686 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity in the world to figure it out, but 687 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he's got to be 688 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: the one that figures it out. What's up, Jason, big 689 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: fan of the show. I've been seeing a few people 690 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: on the internet talk about a potential Jimmy Butler the 691 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: trade to Denver for Michael Porter Junior in a pick. 692 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: What do you think the basketball reasoning is behind that 693 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: potential trade and how do you think Jimmy Butler would 694 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: fit in with Denver. Also, maybe it would be dope 695 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: if you had a series where you broke down basketball 696 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: reasoning behind potential trades that could possibly happen. Love your content, bo, 697 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: Hope you stay blessed. Thanks again for the kind words 698 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: and for supporting the show. I've been pretty bad at 699 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: covering like hypothetical trades in the time leading up to 700 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: the trade deadline. We'll try to figure that out better 701 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: this year. It's a little too early. There's most players 702 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: aren't even eligible to be traded till December fifteenth. We 703 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: might get a panic trade before then from a team 704 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: like Golden State, but like usually it'll be like mid 705 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: January that we start getting really serious about looking at 706 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: the trade market. But if you guys have any ideas 707 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: for how you want to cover that, let me know 708 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: and we'll dig into it, because I would like to 709 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: get better at covering the trade deadline up. I've always 710 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: been like pretty good at like, Okay, this trade happened, 711 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: let me talk about the basketball of how this works. 712 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: I have not as creative as most trade machine workers are, 713 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I see guys post 714 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: trades on twin or I see some of my favorite 715 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: NBA podcasters talk about him on their shows, and I'm like, 716 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, I clearly just don't have enough of that 717 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: like time to just sit down and just conceptualize. I 718 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: haven't devoted enough time, is my point, to conceptualize different 719 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: trade opportunities and things along those lines. It's just something 720 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: I need to get better at because inevitably it is 721 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: an important part of this industry because people love to 722 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: think about potential trades. So it's something I'll try to 723 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: get better at. In the big picture, as far as 724 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler goes, i'd be concerned about trading. Michael Porter 725 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: Junior for Jimmy Butler because Michael Porter Junior feels a 726 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: very very important role in terms of skip pass scoring, 727 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: Like he is your off ball scoring that compliments everything. 728 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: Jimmy shooting the ball really well since he came back 729 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: from his injury. But he's not the kind of guy 730 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: that's going to be guarded the way Michael Porter Junior does, 731 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: or he's or to make teams pay the way Michael 732 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: Porter Junior does on those skip passes. I wouldn't trade 733 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: for Paul George, but let's say that it's Paul George 734 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: totally different story. He's an upgrade of Michael Porter Junior 735 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: that can do a lot of similar things. Right, So, like, 736 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: if you could upgrade a player in that mix for 737 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: somebody that kind of is a like fit, I'd go for. 738 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: I'd be careful with like tinkering too much with the fit, 739 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: because remember, part of what made that Denver team so 740 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: good in twenty twenty three was it was a perfect 741 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: fitting starting five. Maybe not all the guys that you'd 742 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: rank super high in a vacuum as basketball players, but 743 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: each one of those guys fit a specific role so perfectly. 744 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler probably would inevitably find a way to impact 745 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: the game and play well alongside Jokic, But I do 746 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: think there's more clunkiness in that fit. Then we realize 747 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: that they need shooting. They need guys who can shoot. 748 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing that Denver is going to 749 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: be looking a lot at in the trademarket. Hey, Jason, 750 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: you always say that it's easier to cover defensive shortcomings 751 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: rather than offensive ones with role players, which I agree, 752 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: But do you also think that the ceiling is higher 753 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: on a perfect team or on a player like Luca, 754 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: or as a player like Giannis with his defense more 755 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: effective with a hypothetical perfect team around him. Love the 756 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: show and I appreciate your analysis over the legacy media. 757 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work. So I still think that 758 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: I take so let's take Let's take Boston for instance, 759 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: Like if I put Giannis or Luca on Boston, They're 760 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: winning the title no matter what, Like both of those 761 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: for the same reason that Tatum's winning the title with them, 762 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: Like they're just they're the best roster, right. Uh, Tatum 763 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: does a lot uniquely to make all that work. I'm 764 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: not trying to undercut that. I'm just trying to focus 765 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: on this specific debate between Yannis and Luca. So let's 766 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: remove Tatum from the equation for a second. Just imagine, 767 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: when I refer to Boston, I'm referring to just the 768 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: most talented roster in the league. Okay, that fits a 769 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: lot of modern basketball concepts. I think. I think if 770 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: you put Luca with Boston, they'd be devastating offensively, just 771 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: like flat out devastating, and they'd still be so good 772 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: defensively because of their ability to cover for him. With Yannis, 773 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: Yannis would Jannis would still put up monster numbers in 774 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: a in a roster like Boston, and he would still 775 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: unlock a super high ceiling with them. I just don't 776 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 1: think he'd be able to reach the level of offense 777 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: that Luca would be able to reach with that group. 778 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, Boston would still be really good defensively, but 779 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: I think they'd be really good defensively even with Luca. So, 780 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: like it's complicated, but the gist of it is, a 781 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: perfect basketball team around Luca I think has like transcendently 782 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: great offense, whereas a perfect basketball team built around Giannis 783 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 1: still would have some limitations offensively when things really really 784 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: grind down. But Again, here's the thing, Giannis has played 785 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: better than Luca this year, So like I'm talking more 786 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: about an idealized version of Luca that hasn't really come 787 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: to fruition yet this year. Now, I believe it will. 788 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: I believe Luca will demonstrate that he's still at that 789 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: level over the course of this season. He played pretty 790 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: well up until that Oklahoma City game in the last 791 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: couple of games that he had played. But yeah, like 792 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: to Jannis's credit, he's outplayed Luca at this point in 793 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: the season. So I'm more referring to these players in 794 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: a vacuum, kind of like the idealized versions of themselves 795 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: outside just the scope of this season. Last one, hey, 796 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: Jason was wondering what you think of different defensive concepts 797 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: man three two two three zone, occasional traps. They seem 798 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: to be the only defensive formations anyone will play, so 799 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: much is invested in new offensive concept However, I think 800 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: defense needs innovation with these concepts. So there's you know, 801 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this earlier, like every defensive scheme 802 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: has its upsides in its downsides, and most of the 803 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: time whether or not they work has to do with personnel. 804 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example, The Lakers tried doing a 805 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: lot of switching this year. I am generally a person 806 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: who likes switching, but that has to do with what 807 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: kind of roster I have. The Lakers are a roster 808 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: that is going to struggle with switching because they don't 809 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: have really versatile defensive players in their lineup. So all 810 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: teams have to do is get Ad into the action, 811 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: get him switched, pull him out of the play, and 812 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: then look to attack elsewhere. And they have and they 813 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: have tons of advantages. Or just get a shot up 814 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: over Ad and you're going to get the offensive rebound 815 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: because there's not enough size on that back line to 816 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: clean things up. That is a roster that probably should 817 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: be running a lot more drop coverage. Why because that 818 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: keeps Anthony Davis near the rim, prevents him from switching 819 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: out to the perimeter, allows him to solve problems there. 820 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: At the very least, you can try to gear the 821 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: shots towards things that your game plan would prefer to 822 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 1: give up, like mid range attempts, kickouts to mediocre shooters, 823 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: things along those lines. Right, But the point is switching 824 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: has an upside. The upside of switching shuts down screening 825 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 1: actions lower ask physically on your defensive players. The downside 826 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: of switching is you can give up rebounding mismatches and 827 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: you can give up size mismatches to attack one on one. 828 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 1: Another upside of switching is keeps you out of rotation, right, 829 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: but again the downsides that come with rebounding, and also 830 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: I think that one of the things switching to is 831 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: it breeds laziness in a lot of ways because it 832 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: is so much easier. Right traditional coverages like drop to 833 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: varying degrees, a low drop coverage. It can work really 834 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: well if you've got an elite point of attack defender 835 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: who can get over the top of screens in funnel 836 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 1: into your big But if that guy starts getting caught 837 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: on screens, there's a big weak point there in the 838 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: short to mid range. Right, Okay, well, what if we 839 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: go with the high drop coverage. Well, with the high 840 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: drop coverage, we take away that little opening there in 841 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: the mid range, but now we open up the pocket 842 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: pass or the skip pass, depending on whether or not 843 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: the low man comes over. Zone zone defense can disrupt rhythm. 844 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: Zone defense depending on the configuration, can take things away 845 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: like the paint or the three point line, but it's 846 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: really difficult to rebound in zones. Professional basketball players are 847 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: much better at solving zones than younger basketball players are. 848 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: Point being, there's upsides and there's downsides. Ball pressure and aggression. 849 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: Trying to force turnovers. Upsides speeds teams up, makes them uncomfortable, 850 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: disrupts rhythm. Forces turnovers can help you get out in transition. Downside, 851 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: a lot of aggression at the point of attack can 852 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: lead to dribble penetration and to you being in rotation 853 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: a lot, which can lead to offensive rebounds. So the 854 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: point is is like every defensive concept has upside and 855 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: has downside, and so what you want to do as 856 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: a team is you want to find two or three 857 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: concepts that you can do that accentuate your talent. And 858 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 1: if it accentuates your talent, then it'll probably work well. Boston, 859 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: for instance, a lot of switching, especially with Horford right, 860 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: but then they try to protect Porzingis as much as 861 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: possible by running drop with him and putting him on 862 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: the weakest above the brakeshooter on the other team. They 863 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: have schemes that match up really well with their personnel. 864 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: Like we talked about with the Lakers. I would like 865 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 1: to see them, over time maybe go away from switching. 866 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: Not because I don't believe in switching. I do believe 867 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: in switching. I just don't think that's the right roster 868 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: for switching. I think that's a roster that needs to 869 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 1: be running more drop coverage. So that's kind of the point. 870 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: Ball pressure. A team like the Lakers really shouldn't ball pressure. 871 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: They're not athletic enough, and so if they do, they're 872 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: just gonna get beat off the dribble right, and then 873 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna be in rotation where they're slow and they're 874 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: just gonna get beat right. Teams like Houston, Oklahoma City, 875 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 1: they've got all these athletes on the perimeter. They should 876 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: be pressuring the ball. If they don't pressure the ball, 877 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: it's a waste. Right. So, like defensive schemes are not, 878 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, world beaters, they are not the end all 879 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: beat all. It's it's a combination of like the scheme, 880 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: matching with the personnel, and sharp execution. And if you 881 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: don't put all three of those together, it's not gonna 882 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: have any success to begin with. All right, guys, it's 883 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: all have for today as always to sincerely appreciate you 884 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: for supporting me and supporting the show. I hope all 885 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: of you guys have a great weekend. We'll be reacting 886 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: to the n Season Tournament semi final games as well 887 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: as the Power rankings on Monday. I'll see you guys 888 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: then the volume whats So guys. As always, I appreciate 889 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 1: you for listening to and supporting Who tonight. It would 890 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: actually be really helpful for us if you guys would 891 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: take a second and leave a rating and a review. 892 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate you guys supporting us, but if 893 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: you could take a minute to do that, I'd really 894 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it.