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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I ever dream there would

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Speaker 2: be a day quite like today, rich. As we are

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Speaker 2: now counting down to tip off an hour away of

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Speaker 2: this women's National Championship game between Iowa and South Carolina,

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Speaker 2: the numbers are.

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Speaker 3: Sobering.

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Speaker 2: I would say, if you are a critic of women's sports,

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Speaker 2: let's put it that way, because the numbers do not lie.

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Speaker 2: And you saw these numbers as well as I do.

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Speaker 2: The final fourmat that we just saw between Iowa and

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Speaker 2: Yukon had higher ratings than every single game of the

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Speaker 2: World Series last year, every single game of the NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals last year, every DAYTONA five hundred in the last

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Speaker 2: ten years, every single final round of the Masters in

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Speaker 2: the last ten years, and all but five college football

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Speaker 2: games from a year ago. This country right now has

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Speaker 2: gone mad for Caitlyn Clark. And let's call it what

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Speaker 2: it is. Her star power is unlike anything we've ever

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Speaker 2: seen in women's sports across the board. How do you

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Speaker 2: explain the phenomenon that has now reached a peak where

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Speaker 2: she is shattering records across the board.

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Speaker 4: Well, first and foremost, she's a special talent, and she

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Speaker 4: seems to be a good person, and she seems to

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Speaker 4: be able to handle the tension and the limelight and

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Speaker 4: the fact that she is the tent pole to all

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Speaker 4: of college basketball on the woman's side, but also arguably

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Speaker 4: all of women's sports right now. I mean, think about

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Speaker 4: some of the greatest women athletes who we are aware

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Speaker 4: who's going to be the next? Who's going to be

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Speaker 4: the next? All of a sudden, out of Iowa, we've

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Speaker 4: the real deal. I mean, the bigger the stage, the

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Speaker 4: more impressive she appears to be. That first half against

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Speaker 4: Yukon was dreadful. It was dreadful. They did a Geneo

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Speaker 4: orim You got to give him credit. He had a

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Speaker 4: great plan to neutralize what Iowa wanted to do in

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Speaker 4: the second half. Obviously they were open. They were able

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Speaker 4: The Hawkeyes were but you got to give credit to

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Speaker 4: a great coach helping to shut down using scheme, a

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Speaker 4: great player, but her.

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Speaker 1: Talent is insurmountable.

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Speaker 4: Iowa advances and it's just been an unbelievable run for

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Speaker 4: this team and for this player who has really soared

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Speaker 4: above expectation, and that seems hard to do because there

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Speaker 4: have been so many expectations placed on her shoulders. But

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Speaker 4: like I said, she just continues to impress. So I

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Speaker 4: think the line share of the credit for the attention

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Speaker 4: women's college basketball is getting at. You know, during this

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Speaker 4: march is is Caton Clark and there's not really a

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Speaker 2: Do you believe they made a huge mistake, a wasted

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Speaker 2: opportunity by not moving this matchup into prime time When

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Speaker 2: you think about it, this is a noon tip off

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Speaker 2: You move this game back a few more hours, I'm

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Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes you got to.

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Speaker 2: Sort of read the writing on the wall that you

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Speaker 2: have an opportunity unlike ever we've seen, not just in

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Speaker 2: women's college basketball, women's sports forever. In fact, I was

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Speaker 2: I can only come up with one. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 3: So I think it's almost a disservice.

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people might be assuming that

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Manci about this yesterday. So this

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Speaker 2: this whole goat argument, you know, the goat, and we

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Speaker 2: all sports. And I asked Moncey this, I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 2: he finished his career, and he never won a single championship,

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Speaker 2: would he still be in the conversation as the goat.

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Speaker 4: The reality of that conversation, and it is least subjective.

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Speaker 4: Is your team success matters.

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Speaker 4: to win the championship, everything you've accomplished will be diminished

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Speaker 4: my mind, as good as Michael Jordan was, and Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 4: be like Mike I got. I got a basketball hoop

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Speaker 4: But the reason why he's again talking about Caitlyn Clark

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Speaker 4: transitioning to Michael Jordan, the reason why he soared above

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 1: Man, he showed up.

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Speaker 4: And you gotta show up in big moments, So focusing

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Speaker 4: back on Yukon South Carolina, this matchup for the women's

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Speaker 4: tournament side, this national championship, Caitlin Clark is going to

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Speaker 4: face the most pressure in her young career she's ever felt, because, yeah,

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Speaker 4: the records are nice and she's shattered the record book,

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Speaker 4: but the best thing you can do for your legacy

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Speaker 4: is win championships.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And let's keep in mind this South Carolina team

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Speaker 2: over the last two seasons, their record is seventy three

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Speaker 2: and one, seventy three and one, and that one loss

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Speaker 2: was the game to put Caitlin Clark on the map,

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Speaker 2: that semi final upset in the Final four a year ago.

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Speaker 2: That was then followed up by a blowout loss to

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Speaker 2: LSU in the championship game. Don Staley, the coach of

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Speaker 2: They have been a powerhouse. Basically, they have become the

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Speaker 2: new Yukon on the women's side. You know, for years

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Speaker 2: they got upset last year. So not only is South

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Speaker 2: a year ago. South Carolina is a better team than Iowa.

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Speaker 3: And maybe they.

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Speaker 2: Were surprised with what Caitlyn Clark did a year ago.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to be surprised this year. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: be ready for Caitlyn Clark. And so look, I'm hoping,

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Speaker 2: I'm praying that we just get a really good basketball game,

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Speaker 2: something along those lines. Both teams playing at the top level.

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Speaker 2: But if this turns out to be what we saw

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Speaker 2: a year ago against LSU and that's the last game

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Speaker 2: of Caitlin Clark's career, can you really put her in

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Speaker 2: the conversation as the goat? You could put her in

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Speaker 2: the conversation as the greatest shooter, you know, the Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry of women's basketball. But in order to be the goat,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Rich, I mean to me, you gotta

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Speaker 2: have a championship.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: If she knocks off South Carolina today, second year in

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Speaker 2: a row, boom, You're there. You're in the conversation but

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Speaker 2: anything shorter than that, especially if this is a one

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I can't put her in that conversation.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, and here's here's the reality. Again, it's subjective

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Speaker 4: and I can hear it. There are people right now

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Speaker 4: they're listening on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever. However,

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Speaker 4: that from the roof of the Fox Sports radio studios. Look,

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Speaker 4: the reality of the situation is. That's Steve's opinion, and

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Speaker 4: I happen to agree with it. I think it's very

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Speaker 4: hard to include someone in the go conversation. I mean,

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Speaker 4: just think of the person we're comparing her to.

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Speaker 1: We're comparing her to Steph Curry.

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Speaker 4: Steph Curry is a four time NBA champion, right Like,

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Speaker 4: the reason why we're comparing during her to Steph Curry

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Speaker 4: is because he's in the goat conversation in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: He's so talented that he's literally not only changed the

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Speaker 4: was a generation of players like me who wanted to

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Speaker 4: be like Mike. There is now a generation of players,

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Speaker 4: both men and women, who want to be like Steph.

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Speaker 1: And that's why.

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Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark is who she is because you know, I

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Speaker 4: don't know they raised the barn somewhere where she would

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Speaker 4: grow up. I don't she grew up in Iowa. I

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Speaker 4: don't know where she grew up, but somewhere in Middle America.

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Speaker 4: They raised the barn. They put a basketball hoop inside

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Speaker 4: of it so she could play all year round. And

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Speaker 4: you know what, she practiced shooting threes because that's what

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Speaker 4: six feet tall and under, to level the playing field

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Speaker 4: against the bigs, because the bigs ran basketball for decades now.

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Speaker 4: It gives the little guy a shot. And she's not little.

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Speaker 4: I mean Caitlyn Clark. She towers over women on the

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Speaker 4: She's a talent like we haven't seen in basketball. But

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Speaker 4: I happen to agree with you. If you're gonna be

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Speaker 4: this is my opinion, this is your opinion. You gotta

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Speaker 8: new organization that he's with.

438
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 4: Yes, Jp, I'm sorry I almost called you a show Hey,

439
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 4: because it's really the only thing that's been on my

440
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: mind since the start of this baseball season. So many

441
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: other great storylines have been eclipsed by all of the

442
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 4: Otani news. Do you think this is it? Like, this

443
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: is the exact reason why show Hey did what he

444
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 4: did when he came over here from Japan and he

445
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 4: signed with Anaheim and he was looking for a smaller market,

446
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: kind of out of the way franchised that he could

447
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: be with, because this is exactly what he was trying

448
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: to avoid, the limelight, the distraction, the storylines, the headlines,

449
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 4: the national media attention, the negativity that comes with some

450
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: of that attention. Is this It was this the reason

451
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: why he signed with the Angels in the first place.

452
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 5: You know, it's a great question, Rich. I think that

453
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 5: it may have been part of it.

454
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 8: Obviously, there was the ALNL dynamic at the time.

455
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 5: Where he had to go.

456
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 8: To an al seem to be able to the agent

457
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 8: and do what he wanted to do. I think that

458
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 8: was an important part of his decision making process at

459
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 8: the time. But you're right now that you look at

460
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 8: it in context and say, why was it that the

461
00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 8: Angels were favorable to him? And why didn't he he

462
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 8: signed the two times he had a chance to sign

463
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 8: in a New Yorker at Boston. Listen, everybody is you know,

464
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 8: from that standpoint, every player is entitled to do their

465
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 8: job on their own, on their own terms, if.

466
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 5: That makes sense.

467
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 8: It's like professional sports is difficult, and so I do

468
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 8: think that you have to authentically be yourself and if

469
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 8: you want.

470
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 5: To keep to yourself, okay, I understand that, but it.

471
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 8: Does to me run a little bit counter if you're

472
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 8: doing like global sponsorship deals and different advertisements and different

473
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 8: marketing relationships, but then when it comes to actually relating to.

474
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 5: The fans, there's a barrier there. I'm not sure that

475
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 5: that works, and.

476
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 8: I guess the other I mean, that's my own personal

477
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 8: opinion about it.

478
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 5: The other question, though, is will it matter?

479
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 8: Will fans do fans care? Will they sell any fewer

480
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 8: seventeen jerseys because of this relationship and what happened with

481
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 8: the baseball And the answer is I don't know. I

482
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 8: suspect those jerseys sales are going to stay strong and

483
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 8: people are going to uh, They're going to appreciate him

484
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 8: for his unique.

485
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 5: Skill set full stop.

486
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 8: But I think that, to me is how it really

487
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 8: is interesting.

488
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 5: When you look at the the heart and.

489
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 8: Soul of a team, of a fan base, look at

490
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 8: the Dodgers, Bernando Velezuela is an icon there and always

491
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 8: will be because of the way in which the people

492
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 8: in the stands saw him and saw themselves in his

493
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 8: story of being an underdog and what he did.

494
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 5: And Steve you live that and you know what that

495
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 5: was like to go through it.

496
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 8: And to me this may sound funny, but if you're

497
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 8: if you're a if you've been a Dodger.

498
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 5: Fan, if you have a memory of the nineteen eighties.

499
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 8: This will sound totally logical to you in some ways.

500
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 8: In some ways, Fernando will always be a more important emotional,

501
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 8: sentimental name to Dodger fans than Otani. Fernando will always

502
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 8: be that. It's hard to explain to the other twenty

503
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 8: nine fan bases, but that's that's the Dodger identity. If

504
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 8: you well, and I just I think at some point

505
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 8: you know it's not happening now because it's still early

506
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 8: in the year. But you've got I mentioned three guys

507
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 8: on the current roster, Kershaw, Mookie and Freddie, guys who

508
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 8: are superstars, Guys who are going to be Hall of Famers,

509
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 8: who who always take time for people.

510
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 5: And is this a conflict right now?

511
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 8: I don't know, to be honest with you, but you

512
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 8: do wonder if you get towards the end of the

513
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 8: year and if Mooki and Freddie and Clayton are salt

514
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 8: there every day representing the organization, they say, you know what,

515
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 8: maybe we can have some helpare in this regard. It's

516
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 8: an interesting dynamic and the one thing we know for sure, guys,

517
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 8: we are just basically two weeks into a ten year relationship.

518
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 8: As much as we're talking about these are players that

519
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 8: are in the orbit of the Dodgers. Otani has signed

520
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 8: longer than all of them, so to one excenter or another,

521
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 8: this will be his organization to shape over the next decade.

522
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 8: And to your point, from a PR fan relations standpoint,

523
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 8: there are probably some ways that it could have gotten

524
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 8: off to.

525
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 5: A better start than it. Hass I think that we

526
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 5: can we can say that much for very certain.

527
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest, it couldn't gun it off to

528
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: a worst start. I mean, it really is that bad,

529
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: and it's it's damage control right now by the Dodge organization.

530
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: But I think it actually works out well. They caught

531
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: it early, but they're having to explain to him what

532
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: you're able to get away with. The Angels organization is

533
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 2: not gonna fly here. It's just not Mike Trout can

534
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: hide in Anaheim, and that's his choice. There's a reason

535
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: Mike try to state an angel all these years. He

536
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: likes that as well. That is not gonna fly if

537
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: you're going to be in that Dodgers uniform. All right, JP, Well,

538
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: interesting conversation today. We'll do it again next week. We

539
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: always appreciate the time. Thanks so much.

540
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 8: You gotta guys think speaking of icons of superstars, I've

541
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 8: got Caitlin Clark winning today.

542
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: I think I think the Hawkeys find a way to

543
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 5: do it.

544
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: Well.

545
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: That would be an upset.

546
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: And as we were talking a little bit early, if

547
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: she pulls this off and beats South Carolina and undefeated

548
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: South Carolina tea two years in a row, then she

549
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: is the goat.

550
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: We'll put her at the top of the list. Thanks

551
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: so much. JP.

552
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: There is the great John Paul Morosi, our Fox Sports

553
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Radio MLB insider.

554
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

555
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: So Matzi and I had this conversation about the goat,

556
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: and yes, Caitlin Clark and you insisted very much on

557
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: the opposite side of where Rich and I apparently stand.

558
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I said that.

559
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 10: Unfortunately, I don't see it as black and white with her,

560
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 10: just because she stayed at Iowa and she wasn't surrounded

561
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 10: by all of these stars.

562
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 9: She can go to a powerhouse.

563
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 10: She's been to the championship already, she already defeated.

564
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 9: South Carolina last year.

565
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 10: I think there's a lot already that she has accomplished.

566
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 9: So to me, she doesn't have to win.

567
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: But I she is the goat period.

568
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: Hang On, I'm gonna ask you a tough question, but

569
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 4: I want to honest answer. Who do you think has

570
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: more raw talent Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady raw talent?

571
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers?

572
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Why? Why?

573
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: Then, because we've had this conversation before, do you think

574
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: Tom Brady's the goat?

575
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 10: Well, obviously his his run. I hear what you guys

576
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 10: are saying. Because I said to Steve yesterday, if Michael

577
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 10: Jordan didn't have the championships, he would.

578
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 9: Not be the goat.

579
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: So I agreed.

580
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 9: I understand that my answer is just not.

581
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: He says it's different for Caitlin.

582
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: I know that. Listen, listen, and you know what these are, Manzi.

583
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: These are completely subjective conversations.

584
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: Like so your.

585
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 4: Opinion of how you evaluate you know, pro football, completely

586
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: different sport.

587
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: It's fair that you look through.

588
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: A different lens or criteria for women's college basketball. I

589
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: completely understand how and why that would be the case.

590
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: But that's that's how I feel. It's like oo in

591
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 4: my life, I always strive for consistency. And if I'm

592
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: going to consider Tom Brady the goat, even though I

593
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: think Patrick Mahomee and Aaron Rodgers both are more talented

594
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: football players, better quarterbacks, better quarterbacks, then I'd better look

595
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: at Caitlyn Clark as something other than the goat, because

596
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: even though she's the most well again, granted, if she

597
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: doesn't win the championship, because if she wins it, then

598
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: I can put her in that echelon. If she doesn't,

599
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: then it goes to somebody else.

600
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

601
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 10: No, listen, You can say I'm crazy, but I am

602
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 10: looking at it through a different lens because it's Kaitlyn Clark.

603
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 10: Even though that sounds even more ridiculous, I just think

604
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 10: that what she has done, what she was surrounded by,

605
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 10: like you have to take.

606
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 9: That into consideration.

607
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 10: So this wouldn't be how I feel in a different situation.

608
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 10: This is just how I feel with her.

609
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: See to me, there's a lot of Taylor Swift in this.

610
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: In other words, Taylor Swift may not be the best

611
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: singer nor the best songwriter, but she is by far

612
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: the biggest star. And that's where Kaitlyn Clark is. There

613
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: is no question she is the biggest star by far.

614
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 10: But she does we've ever seen in the win and

615
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 10: so she also does have the skill. And then the

616
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 10: fact that it's not just crazy shots from the logo

617
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 10: that she has.

618
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 9: How many assists does she averages?

619
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, Like, I take that all that,

620
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 10: all that into consideration. Show So yes, maybe I'm looking

621
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 10: at this through a different lens, but it won't be

622
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 10: the same lens that I look.

623
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 9: At in another situation.

624
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 10: Just with her, this is how I feel, and I

625
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 10: do think I'm with JP.

626
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 9: I think she pulls it off.

627
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you do.

628
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 9: I know, I think she does it.

629
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: The great thing we're all going to be watching this

630
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: game together here shortly.

631
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't cut from that.

632
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: By the way, it might it might be well, I

633
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 4: think it's easily.

634
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Diana Tarassi. I think I think for she.

635
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: Has the best resume.

636
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like when you look at I mean, first of all,

637
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 4: an unbelievable player, yes, and maybe not as talented as

638
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark, but a.

639
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 9: Winner, but a lethal a lethal winner.

640
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, Like I hear what you're saying, because yes, I

641
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 10: see Diana Tarrossi and I see her as almost like

642
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 10: cold in the veins, like she's going to get you.

643
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 10: And then you look at Caitlin Clark, but she's flashy,

644
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 10: like you can't help out. She's so flashy, you know,

645
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 10: like that stands. She's a shiny diamond like I can't

646
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 10: help it.

647
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 9: I can't help it. Even though I agree Dinah's a Rassi.

648
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 9: Every time I watched it.

649
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 10: I was like, that girl has has iced in her veins.

650
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 10: She don't care, and I just I love them.

651
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 9: Both in different ways.

652
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 10: All Right, fellas, that game is gonna start soon in

653
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 10: about twenty minutes, we're gonna see undefeated South Carolina and

654
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 10: Iowa tip off for the women's National Basketball Championship. Very exciting,

655
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 10: but let's check in on baseball. We got a full

656
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 10: sled of games. The Diamondbacks and the Braves are now

657
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 10: tied at two apiece top of the fourth inning.

658
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 9: The Oriols on top of.

659
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 10: The Pirates to zero. Bottom of the fifth. The Phillies

660
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 10: and Nationals. We're tied not anymore. Washington on top two

661
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 10: to one. Top of the fourth. The Yankees have tied

662
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 10: the game at home against the Blue Jays. It's one

663
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 10: to one. Bottom of the third. The Mets have added

664
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 10: another run. They're on top of the Reds three zero.

665
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 10: Top of the fourth inning. The A's are beating the

666
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 10: Tigers six zero. Second basement for Oakland's Geloff has a

667
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 10: triple a home run, four RBIs six to zero against

668
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 10: against the Tigers.

669
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 9: Top of the fourth inning.

670
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 10: The Mariners are now losing to the Brewers three to two.

671
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 9: Top of the second inning.

672
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 10: The Marlins guys, they may win their first game of

673
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 10: the season.

674
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 9: Maybe. They're currently beating the Cardinals six to zero. Top

675
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 9: of the second inning. They've had two.

676
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 10: Of three run Homers hit first, jas chishlm and now

677
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 10: Nick Gordon. So maybe the Marlins get their first run

678
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 10: or the first win of the season.

679
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 9: The Cubs have scored first against the Dodgers. It's three zero.

680
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 9: They just ended the first inning. Back to you guys.

681
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was hoping the Marlins would challenge the nineteen

682
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: eighty eight oriole Yes, I know.

683
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: I started the year oh and twenty one.

684
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 9: What did I say to Brian yesday? I was like,

685
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 9: you just Jinkstone. They're gonna go on a twenty two

686
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 9: game winning streak.

687
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 2: I mean, oh and twenty That record will last forever, right,

688
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that must stand eighty eight Baltimore Ools

689
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: started the season oh and twenty one.

690
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, who was close?

691
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: Though?

692
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: Last season? You remember there was a run, there was

693
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: a streak. There are a couple the raise somebody did.

694
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 9: I think it was the rais?

695
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

696
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: All right, we're up against the guys on the other side.

697
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm gonna explain why no one's

698
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: buzzing about this battle of one seeds on the men's

699
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: side for a national championship tomorrow. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

700
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Rich Rnberger here Fox Sports Sunday. We are

701
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: live from the tay Iraq dot Com studios are a

702
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: little more than ten minutes a way of tip off

703
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: National Championship game between Iowa and South Carolina. The parallels

704
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: between these two championship games almost eerie. On one side,

705
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: you have Yukon on the men's side and South Carolina

706
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: on the women's side, clearly the number one teams in

707
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: the country and they're both going against one seeds that

708
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: featured the national players of the year in Caitlin Clark

709
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 2: and Zach Edie.

710
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 3: So why is there so.

711
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: Little buzz for the game tomorrow between Purdue and Yukon.

712
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: It's compared to what we're about to tip off in

713
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: this Iowa South Carolina matchup. And to me Rich, it's

714
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: about the style of the national player of the year.

715
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean, Caitlin Clark is electric. She bombs from downtown.

716
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: This is the new generation of what we have adjusted

717
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: our eyeballs to in the Steph Curry generation of basketball fans.

718
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: Zach edy is a throwback. I mean he goes back

719
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: to George Miken like. He's literally like George. If you

720
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: ever wonder what was George Miken like? You know eighty

721
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: years ago, watched Zach Edy. That's what he George Miken

722
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: was really slow, but he was physically dominant and he

723
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: had great shots around the basket. He was a scoring machine.

724
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: So if you ever wondered, I wonder what George Mikeen

725
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: was like, watch Zach Edy. He moves really slow. The

726
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: thing I like about Zach Edy is he continues to

727
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: improve his game.

728
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 3: He has played outstanding.

729
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: He's put up number that are some of the best

730
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: numbers we've ever seen in the NCAA tournament to get

731
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: his team to the championship game. And this is getting

732
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: a collective yawn from basketball.

733
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: Fan because he's boring. Yes, because he's boring.

734
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 4: Look, this is the reason why I said what I

735
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 4: said about Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets.

736
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Yawn.

737
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: Look, he's a dominant player, There's no question about it.

738
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: Jokich is a stud.

739
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: He's a great and actually he and Zach Edie there

740
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: are some parallels. Obviously, Jokich a little bit more fluid

741
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: of an athlete. However, the joke on Jokich is the

742
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: fact that he seems to take these horribly ugly looking

743
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: shots and they all go in He's also got great

744
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: court visions, so when he gets the ball, he finds

745
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: his open targets.

746
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: He's really a complete player.

747
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: Zach Edy is something maybe less talent wise than Jokic,

748
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 4: but just his dominant in college basketball. Another reason why

749
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: there may not be as much interest in Purdue or

750
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: you know, my comparison to the Denver Nuggets is because

751
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 4: their greatest star is a foreign born player. You know,

752
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: you have a player from Canada representing Perdue, you have

753
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: this player from Serbia representing the Denver Nuggets. Now, I

754
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: don't think this is a nationalistic standpoint. I think that

755
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: it's great that all of these sports are spreading. Our

756
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 4: American sports are spreading to other countries, like football and

757
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 4: baseball and basketball certainly becoming more popular overseas. It's great,

758
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: it's great for the game. But when you're wrapping your

759
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 4: arms around a star, it's a lot easier to wrap

760
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: your arms around a homegrown star like Caitlin Clark than

761
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: it is Zach Edy. And then, really a third and

762
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 4: most important reason that the women's game I think is

763
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: garnering a lot more attention is because it's it's been

764
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: promoted better. Steve, like we've heard more about Caitlyn Clark

765
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 4: and she's made a deep run in this postseason now

766
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 4: than we have about any player on the men's side.

767
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: The promotion has been so fantastic they've done, these networks

768
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: have done an incredible job putting it in front of

769
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: our face, and then the beat writers are writing their stories.

770
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: There's been a lot of attention, so that speaks to

771
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 4: the interest level as.

772
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: Well, no question.

773
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it, the two men's games yesterday

774
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: very forgettable.

775
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean very very forgettable.

776
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: So and by the way I mean, I mean again

777
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: much as we're talking about the legacy of Caitlyn Clark

778
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: and in our opinion, how she gets to the go

779
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: conversation is winning this game today, which is possible, and

780
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: honestly for Zach Edie as well.

781
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: I mean on paper, you're like, you know.

782
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: Klingon, he's almost as big as Edie, right, I mean

783
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: he's seven to two, He's a big man. So that

784
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: mismatch we've seen it with some of the other Purdue

785
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: opponents is not there. But if somehow Zach Eedy and

786
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: Purdue win that game tomorrow, at least at a collegiate standpoint,

787
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: will change perspective in terms of his power in the sport.

788
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 2: So these are very similar matchups. The question is can

789
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: the players of the year do enough to beat clearly

790
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: the two best teams in college basketball on the women's side,

791
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: South Carolina and the men's side, Yukon. It is a

792
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: team sport, and well we're just counting down right now.

793
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna get you on the other side. Tip off

794
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: South Carolina and Yukon will bring you all the latest

795
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: excuse me against South Carolina. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

796
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: rolling along here on this Championship Sunday. This is Fox

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00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, and we are broadcasting live from the Tyraq

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Speaker 2: iraq dot com the way tire buying should be. All right,

802
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: we're just minutes away now the tip off of the

803
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Women's National Championship game number one South Carolina taking on

804
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: another one seed that would be Iowa. This is a

805
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: rematch of last year's national semifinal when Iowa shocked the

806
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: world with that big victory. It was the game that

807
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: propelled Caitlin Clark into the stratosphere. Of course, that was

808
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: followed up by a disappointing lost LSU in the National

809
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: Championship game, which I'm always curious about this when you

810
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: have a rematch like this again, South Carolina over the

811
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 2: last two years is seventy three and one.

812
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: Seventy three and one.

813
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: And that only loss was to Iowa in the National

814
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: semi final a year ago. Who does that favor I

815
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: other words, you got Iowa, who obviously goes into the

816
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: game with the mindset we can beat this team. We

817
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: beat him last year, we could do it again, as

818
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 2: opposed to South Carolina said they surprised us last year,

819
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: We're not going to be surprised this year. And then

820
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: there's the revenge factor on top of that. But what

821
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 2: side gains more, if anything, from what happened a year ago?

822
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: Oooh, great question.

823
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: I would say, Look, momentum is a heck of a thing,

824
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: and South Carolina has a little bit more of that

825
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: Yukon feel to me, the way that they've been sailing

826
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: through the bracket. And by Yukon, I don't mean Yukon

827
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 4: on the women's side, I mean the Yukon men's Over

828
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: the past two season, the Yukon men's team.

829
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: Has just dominated in the tournament.

830
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 4: Even though the past couple of rounds, you know, Sweet sixteen,

831
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: Elite eight, even the final four, they've had some tricky

832
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: first halves, they opened up massive margins in the second halves.

833
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: South Carolina feels.

834
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 4: Like they have that level of moment on the women's

835
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 4: side now talking about heading into this national championship game,

836
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: and so I give an edge, albeit a slight one,

837
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 4: to the game Cocks.

838
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to agree.

839
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 2: And again that revenge factor and Don Staley a Hall

840
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: of Fame player and is obviously going to be in

841
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Again, that's the thing about the

842
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: basketball off and they can keep putting you in the

843
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: Hall of.

844
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: Fame multiple times.

845
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: I went onto a tirade I will not repeat today

846
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: on the whole basketball Hall of Fame. You know how

847
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: I feel about that Hall of Fame. But nonetheless, they're

848
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: going to learn. I mean, she's a great coach, I mean,

849
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: one of the absolute best, and she's won a couple

850
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: of national championships and that lost to Iowa really stung.

851
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: And so you go into this game. We were talking

852
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier, you mentioned the fact that Gino

853
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: Rim and Yukon really did a number on Caitlin Clark,

854
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: who which he had four points in the first half

855
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: in that matchup against Yukon.

856
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: How do you go.

857
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: About taking on this Iowa team when you have one

858
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: player that's so dominant. It's not just that she's a scorer. Again,

859
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: you know, she she leads the nation in both scoring anissist.

860
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: So I mean, she's an absolute complete offensive player. So

861
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: what do you do if you're South Carolina you got

862
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: obviously great talent. If you overcompensate for her, could that

863
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: work against you or of your the mindset like we're

864
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 2: just gonna eliminate her, and if somebody else beats us,

865
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: so be it.

866
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's your only chance. And you know,

867
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: we were talking about this a little bit yesterday on

868
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: the morning show here on Fox Sports Radio. Steve and

869
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: I said the same thing. You kind of have to

870
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 4: make a team play left handed. And my commentary was

871
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 4: NC State strategy in the final four game against Zach Edy. Right,

872
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: Zach Edy is the college basketball Player of the Year.

873
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 4: He wins the Wooden Award for the second time over

874
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 4: and you say to yourself, so what should the Wolfpacks

875
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 4: plan be against the boiler Maker?

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00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: Well, there's only one plan.

877
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: Just stop Eaty And if you fail trying to stop Edie,

878
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: nobody's going to be like.

879
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: Wow, what was NC State doing.

880
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 4: All they're gonna say is Wow, what a tremendous player

881
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: Zach Edy is because the Wolfpack threw everything they had

882
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: at him and he still persevered. Or you know, maybe

883
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 4: you'll start commenting about how other role players stepped up

884
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: and help the boiler Makers succeed. But that's the plan, right,

885
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: So when you're going against in Iowa, and this was

886
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: the plan from Gino Arima in the final four game

887
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: against Yukon, stop Caitlin Clark.

888
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: I was sitting in a.

889
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: Crowded airport bar watching that final four game and I'm

890
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 4: watching Caitlin struggle and I'm watching the Iowa hawk guys

891
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: look for open looks and she had to get the

892
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: ball out of her ends quickly. I think that needs

893
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 4: to be the exact same style of play from South

894
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: Carolina and on short rest, with you know, less ability

895
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: to adjust and facing better players. Frankly, on South Carolina,

896
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 4: I think the Hawkeys could really struggle.

897
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: Here now you know I have a habit of dating myself.

898
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

899
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, the first ever women's Final four predates the NCAA.

900
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: It was then known as the AIAW before they became

901
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 2: the NCAA in nineteen eighty two on the women's side,

902
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: and the first ever Final four was held at Pauly

903
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: Pavilion when I was a student at UCLA, and UCLA

904
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: ultimately won that national championship on their home court. And

905
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: I mentioned this because I'm now watching this final four

906
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: setup in Cleveland there at Rocket Mortgage Arena. And if

907
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: you had told me in nineteen seventy eight at that

908
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: Final four, and believe me, Paully was far from pact

909
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: for that Final four that the women's game would get

910
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: to the point that it is now. I mean, Saturday

911
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: Night Live, did you hear about this last I mean,

912
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: they they did a whole thing on the women's game

913
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: versus the men's game. They destroyed the men's game in

914
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: favor of the women's game, you know, you know, sort

915
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: of playing to the audience, right. Yeah, But if you

916
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: had told me at that time with my dear friend

917
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: Anne Meyers Denise Curruz, a great player UCLA, that we

918
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: would get to this point in women's basketball, I would

919
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: say not in a million years, because I remember in

920
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: those days, UCLA Sports on the women's side had a trailer.

921
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: They didn't even have a building like for the athletic department.

922
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: They literally had like a mobile trailer to be home

923
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: for that. So I tell you what it's it's an

924
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: incredible story to.

925
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 3: Me, the growth of women's sports.

926
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: By the way, well, I don't know if I'm not

927
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: going to bring this up, I might stop myself.

928
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: Well well, but I just let me give you.

929
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 4: Let me give you a thought that came to mind,

930
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: and we don't have to delve too deep into this.

931
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: And I'm curious if this is where your brain was

932
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 4: taking you. I do think that there is a more

933
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 4: ardent defense of women's sports in this country than there

934
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: has been in the past because of certain political things.

935
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 4: And we don't need to get into politics. This is

936
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 4: a sports show. I find it boring to get into politics.

937
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: And certain questions were asked of a majority of these

938
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: coaches on the women's side as they moved closer and

939
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 4: closer to the National Championship game about some of the

940
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: gender politics that are going on swirling around around an

941
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: election year, and it's interesting, it seems timely in some

942
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 4: ways that all of a sudden there's this enormous interest

943
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: in women's college basketball because there is a potentiality of

944
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 4: seeing something that has been considered by some to been

945
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 4: uninterrupted by anything in the past potentially lay and wait

946
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 4: for something in the future that could disturb people. And

947
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about all people, but some people and

948
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 4: may actually detract from viewership in the future. So we'll

949
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: see where things end up. Obviously, we live in a

950
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 4: society that's free, and a lot of decisions get made,

951
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: some of them with a line share majority opinions, some without.

952
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think I think in general things things

953
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 4: enter the power of the public consciousness and they either

954
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: win or they lose, just like in sports. So I

955
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: think that that there are some other reasons outside of

956
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 4: the great promotion, outside of the fact that Caitlin Clark

957
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 4: is an absolute star, Outside of the fact that she

958
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 4: is a record breaking talent and a lot of eyes

959
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 4: have been on IOWA not only in the postseason, but

960
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: also in the regular season during the women college basketball season,

961
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 4: I think I think there are other things at play

962
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 4: here that are boosting the numbers for this specific tournament.

963
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: And I hope that the star power generated by Caitlin

964
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: Clark and the records that she has set on the

965
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: lady's side, that we can forever stop the idea of

966
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: a woman breaking both a men's and women's record in

967
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: a sport. They're separate sports, and the women don't need

968
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: any kind of validation for what they have done by

969
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: somehow comparing them to men that are playing a completely

970
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: different sport.

971
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: Stop it. I mean, we are now at the level where.

972
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: You don't have to somehow glorify what a Caitlin Clark

973
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: is doing by putting the name Pete Maravich next to

974
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: her or Steph Curry next to her. She can stand

975
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: on her own. And then the women, you know, we've

976
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: over forty years now of NCAA championship on the women's side,

977
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: and so this is you know, we're way past that now,

978
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: way past that, and they can stand on their own

979
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: and obviously doing so. If you if you missed it again,

980
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: the numbers on that semi final game on Friday night

981
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: between Iowa Yukon was the most watched basketball game in

982
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: ESPN history, men or women. And I've said, yeah, I mean,

983
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how again, stop it with the Caberises.

984
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: There is no such record book that includes the combined

985
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: records of men and women, two separate sports.

986
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: Well, so the women have proven this year.

987
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: Without a shadow of doubt they can stand on their

988
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: own without some made up record breaking performances.

989
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something.

990
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: I as a kid, I didn't grow up a baseball fan.

991
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: It was something that I learned to enjoy as an adult.

992
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: I acquired a taste for the methodical, technical aspects of

993
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: the sport from a pitching standpoint, the discipline of the hitter.

994
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I really it took an adult mind, at

995
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: least in my situation, to really appreciate the nuance of baseball.

996
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: And so it's a sport that like for for years,

997
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: I promise you, for years.

998
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 4: I paid zero attention to And then as I was

999
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 4: getting into my professional career playing football, I found it

1000
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 4: to be a great outlet to turn on a baseball

1001
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,479
Speaker 4: team and just sort of veg out and watch other

1002
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: athletes perform a sport that's so foreign to me, women's

1003
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: college basketball. To be perfectly honest with you, it's still

1004
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: not an acquired taste for me. I still have yet

1005
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: to acquire and a taste for it. In fact, I

1006
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 4: turned on well, I didn't turn it on like I

1007
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: told you. I was at an airport bar watching the

1008
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: women's college Final Four between Iowa and Yukon, and I

1009
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 4: watched intently that whole first half. And look, it's a

1010
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: very different game than the men's game, there's no question

1011
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 4: about it. I still don't love it, but I respect it,

1012
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: and I respect the fact that there are millions, tens

1013
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 4: of millions of people now tuning in to see this sport.

1014
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: And I like that. I like Super Bowl because everybody's

1015
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: doing the same thing at the same time.

1016
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: So when you show up somewhere on Monday morning after

1017
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, everybody's talking about the same things. I

1018
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: like the fourth of July for that reason. I was

1019
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 4: talking about this yesterday as well. I like the feeling

1020
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 4: of everybody celebrating the same things at the same time.

1021
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 4: Women's college basketball has done this for the first time

1022
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: in recent memory for me at least, where college basketball

1023
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: is going to be the most important thing. It's gonna

1024
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 4: be number one on the docket coming in tomorrow morning,

1025
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be the women's game. It's gonna be

1026
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be anticipation for the national Championship. We're

1027
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: not gonna be talking as much Perdue Yukon on the

1028
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: men's side as we are the outcome of South Carolina Iowa.

1029
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 4: And so with that, with that respect and truly this

1030
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 4: interest that I have been watching it, I'm hoping what

1031
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 4: it turns into is an appreciation for the sport that

1032
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 4: I was able to garner for baseball in my adult years,

1033
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: that I have yet to be able to build for

1034
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 4: women's basketball. Caitlin Clark is the reason why I'm even

1035
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 4: watching this year. So that says a lot about Caitlyn

1036
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 4: because it look I've lived through the Cannas Parker, Dana Tarasi,

1037
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: Nobody's moved me to the.

1038
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Television set like Caitlin Clark. So she is definitely a

1039
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: special player.

1040
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: Just like in basketball, successful game plan starts with the

1041
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: right players. The team attractor supply brings hustle and heart,

1042
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: and that's what really sets them apart. So lace up

1043
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: your sneakers, make the winning play by heading to your

1044
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: local tractor supply store. Coming up on the other side,

1045
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: the start of this women's National Championship game between South

1046
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: Carolina and Iowa and what does this game have to

1047
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: do with the future of the growth of women's basketball.

1048
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: Will break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Hartman,

1049
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: Rich Rnberger, Fox Sports Sunday.

1050
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 2: We are live from the tai iraq dot Com studios

1051
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: and Iowa is on fire to start this National championship game.

1052
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: That got off to a ten nothing lead to open

1053
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: up the game. First seven points are not score by

1054
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark. She has scored every point since for Iowa.

1055
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: That's thirteen points already for her and we got five

1056
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: minutes to go in the first quarter. I remember she

1057
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: had four points in the first half against Yukon. And

1058
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: this South Carolina team seventy three and one over the

1059
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: last two years, undefeated this year, and boy do they

1060
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: look shaky to start this game. They are missing a

1061
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: lot of makeable shots early on here. So Iowa comes

1062
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 2: out on fire, and you know, there's an obvious size

1063
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: advantage for South Carolina in this game, Rich, but I

1064
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing in terms of their strategy

1065
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: with Caitlin Clark. She's been fouled a couple of times

1066
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 2: on three point shots. Obviously she's gonna knock down free throws.

1067
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: But I'm a little bit put off by what I

1068
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 2: see so far from South Carolina.

1069
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty amazing what you've seen now in back

1070
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: to back games for Iowa, Iowa went up against a

1071
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 4: defense that was shutting down Kaitlin Clark, and I think

1072
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 4: maybe early in this one that was the plan, and

1073
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 4: role players stepped up in a big way. So the

1074
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 4: defense shifted and slacked a little bit on Clark, and

1075
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: so she's been able to have a greater impact. It's

1076
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 4: gonna be tough to beat a team that's making shots

1077
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 4: and shooters want to shoot, and shooters or I should say,

1078
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 4: making shots can be contagious. You know, you see the basket,

1079
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 4: or I should say the ball go through the basket

1080
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 4: for one shooter and all of a sudden it can

1081
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 4: spread throughout a team. So so far, the Hawk guys

1082
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 4: are just that they've been Hawkeyes with the basketball.

1083
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So a time out right now, and it is

1084
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: all Iowa early in this game. Again, we're only in

1085
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 2: the first quarter. By the way, do you prefer quarters

1086
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 2: or halves? And by the way, men's basketball is on

1087
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: the collegiate levels, the only basketball I know of that

1088
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: has halves and not quarters.

1089
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like quarters because I think I think it

1090
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 4: matches the majority of sports that we're interested in, you know,

1091
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 4: college football, college or I should say pro football, pro basketball,

1092
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 4: women's basketball. Like, I don't understand why men's college basketball

1093
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: has done this. I know there are certain people who

1094
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 4: will defend it, you know, to their dying breath, but.

1095
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: It misses me.

1096
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 4: I would be just as happy watching the college game

1097
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 4: with quarters as I am with halfs.

1098
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: So right now, the shooting percentage, just say it all.

1099
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: Iowa shooting sixty seven percent and the game Cocks are

1100
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: shooting twenty eight percent. That is why it's twenty to

1101
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: nine Iowa right now, just inside five minutes to go

1102
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: in the first quarter. So I've been asked this a

1103
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: few times in talking more women's basketball than I have

1104
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: in my entire life about the carryover effect to the

1105
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: WNBA of Caitlin Clark, and I always harken back to

1106
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: Kandas Parker. When Candas Parker was at Tennessee, they went

1107
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: back to back national championships.

1108
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: She was the complete package. Not only was she the

1109
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: player in the country, everything about it, you know what

1110
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 3: appearances speak volumes, especially on the lady side. Fair or not,

1111
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 3: it is what it is.

1112
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: And I thought, if Kennis Parker can't take the WNBA

1113
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: to the next level, who can. And her rookie season,

1114
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: she was Rookie of the Year MVP and almost forgotten

1115
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: from her Tennessee days, and it just seems to be

1116
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: that way over and over again with the WNBA. They've

1117
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: been losing money for all twenty five years of their existence.

1118
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: Do you believe that will change with Caitlin Clark? I mean,

1119
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: in other words, like Major League soccer, you know, right,

1120
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the biggest name on the

1121
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: planet shows up, and all of a sudden people want

1122
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: to see it. You know, Messi's there and I want

1123
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: to go see MESSI play. Can Caitlin Clark do that

1124
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: for the WNBA?

1125
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 4: I don't know. I certainly hope so. I think that

1126
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 4: the amount of interest that has been accrued during her

1127
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 4: run here this season and especially with the Iowa Hawkeyes

1128
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: is special. It's significant, it feels momentous, and with momentum,

1129
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: the hope is there's a spillover effect into the WNBA.

1130
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 4: It has yet to occur. You pointed it out perfectly

1131
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 4: flawlessly that no star, regardless how big and captivating they've

1132
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: been in women's college hoops, has translated into real ratings

1133
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 4: or viewership numbers in the in the WNBA, And so

1134
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 4: I'm very curious to see if this works. But if

1135
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 4: there's ever been a shot for it to work, it

1136
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 4: feels like this is it. I mean, who's been a

1137
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 4: bigger star in college basketball on the women's side than

1138
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark.

1139
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: The answer is nobody.

1140
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's also interesting we were talking about

1141
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: the possibility of being on that three on three league,

1142
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: and you know ice Cube making all this noise about

1143
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: paying or five million.

1144
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: By the way, the average man in that league makes

1145
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 3: seventy thousand dollars.

1146
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

1147
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: And you know, she is a six foot guard and

1148
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: in a half court game against men, especially when you

1149
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: would have a huge target on your back, right, you're

1150
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: making five million, then the rest of the guys are

1151
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: making seventy thousand.

1152
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: She I mean, let's be honest, she wouldn't get a

1153
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 3: shot off.

1154
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: No, she would actually not be able to get a

1155
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 2: shot off, which would be a really bad pr move.

1156
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: I know that she's not going to sign with this league.

1157
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: I think ice Cube was you know, using the moment

1158
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: to call attention like we still exist.

1159
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that's as far as this is going

1160
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: to go.

1161
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: I'll be very curious. I mean, look, I mean she

1162
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: is there's also this. I know she's already committed that

1163
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: she's coming out for the WNBA, but she did have

1164
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: the option of staying the nextra year. And when you

1165
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: consider the nil money that she is making right now

1166
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 2: and is just going up, up up, suddenly you're seeing

1167
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark and all these commercials.

1168
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 3: So she's making millions right now.

1169
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: I know she won't, but if I were advising her

1170
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: and say, you know what, this Iowa thing is not

1171
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: the worst thing to stay, right, I mean, you want

1172
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: to push your records to levels that will never be

1173
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: approached and one more year, Yeah, it's not gonna happen.

1174
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: But if she can pull it off where she can

1175
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: go to the WNBA and actually move the needle as

1176
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: we've never seen in that league, then her star power

1177
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: is even greater than we already thought. All right, we

1178
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: are all over this Ladies Championship game going on right now,

1179
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: Let's find out what is trending. And of course, without hesitation,

1180
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: MONSI said I like Iowa in this game, and so

1181
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: far they are looking really good.

1182
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 10: No, I just think they're ready, not that South Carolina

1183
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 10: is it, And it wouldn't surprise me at all if

1184
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 10: South Carolina was.

1185
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 9: It's not it, you know, But I was just talking

1186
01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 9: to the guys. Camilla Cordoso for she's listening, did at six.

1187
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: Seven, Oh she's I mean the size differential between the

1188
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: two ts.

1189
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 10: Yes, is big, big, because Hannah Stulky is listed at

1190
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 10: six two.

1191
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, so like and you can see it.

1192
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: I just had to.

1193
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, she towers, but I had to look it up

1194
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 9: because I was like, I want to know what this is.

1195
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 9: I was like, oh, my good, six seven is like.

1196
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: But she has missed a lot of shots around the basket.

1197
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: When you have that kind of size advantage, and this

1198
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 2: is getting back to a zach Edie right, Yes, yes,

1199
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: I mean when you have that kind of size advantage

1200
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: and you have that kind of position, you should not

1201
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: be missing layups.

1202
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 10: But we also talked about zach Eati's improvement over the years.

1203
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 10: She's only a sophomore, right, so there's still you know

1204
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 10: the I totally agree with you there.

1205
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 9: They have to figure out their touch when they're so

1206
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 9: tall and they're so close.

1207
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: When she's been missing. Sorry she she uh, she's hurrying it.

1208
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: You need to slow down a little bit, yes, and

1209
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: I understand's the National Championship game.

1210
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 3: You're you know, just calm down, calm down down.

1211
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 9: Yes, Well, that great block by Hannah Stolki there.

1212
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 10: I don't know, I feel like the pressure is more

1213
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 10: on South Carolina.

1214
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know.

1215
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 10: I know the pressure individually is on Caitlin Clark, but

1216
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 10: I think as teams, I would assume that South Carolina

1217
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 10: feels a little bit more of the pressure since they

1218
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 10: lost to them last year in the semi finals and

1219
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 10: they went undefeated again. So right now, Iowa is on

1220
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 10: top twenty two to fifteen with two minutes and seventeen

1221
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 10: seconds to go in the first quarter.

1222
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 9: Let's check in in Major League Baseball on what is

1223
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 9: going on.

1224
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 10: Gian Carlos Stanton did hit a grand Slam for the Yankees,

1225
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 10: so New York on top of the Blue Jays five

1226
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 10: to two.

1227
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 9: Top of the sixth.

1228
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 10: Inning, Michael Harris the second gave the Braves the lead

1229
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 10: with the solo home run. They're still beating the Diamondbacks

1230
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 10: by that homer.

1231
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 9: It's three to two. Bottom of the seventh inning.

1232
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 10: The a is still blanking the Tigers six to zero

1233
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 10: bottom of the seventh, bar the seventh. Yes, the rain

1234
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 10: is coming down, guys in Chicago. I don't know if

1235
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 10: they're going to stop this game. But the Cubs are

1236
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 10: beating the Dodgers five zero, bottom of the fourth inning. Marlins,

1237
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 10: like I said, might get their first win of the season.

1238
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 10: They're holding onto their lead over the Cardinals seven to

1239
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 10: one bottom of the fifth.

1240
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 9: And the Rays with the early lead over the Rockies.

1241
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 9: It is one zero top of the second inning. And

1242
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 9: that's all I got for you because I'm going back

1243
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 9: to this game.

1244
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 10: Guys, twenty two eighteen ninety seconds to go on the

1245
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 10: first quarter.

1246
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 9: Let's go iowaa.

1247
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: All right, Monte.

1248
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: I tell you one thing I do like about this

1249
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: game is this is a pretty physical game and they're

1250
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: not blowing the whistle. Now, I don't know after the

1251
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: controversial call that we saw at the end of that Yukon,

1252
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: Iowa game, and by the way, that was an illegal pick.

1253
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 3: I mean, she clearly stuck out her leg. Yes, you know,

1254
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 3: she raised her elbow, didn't make contact with the elbow,

1255
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: but as far as extending her leg that's a moving screen.

1256
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, no, she was doing the electric slide.

1257
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know you said, well, you can't make

1258
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: that call. Rich, I'm curious with you.

1259
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean it was I mean it's like, you know,

1260
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: calling a holding call or something, you know, late in

1261
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: the game let them play.

1262
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't know, I mean, that was

1263
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 3: an illegal screen.

1264
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 4: She extended her leg I know, but and it's like, Okay,

1265
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, I agree.

1266
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: I agree.

1267
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 4: However, say there's a close pass interference call, like the

1268
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 4: defender may or may not have nudged or grabbed jersey

1269
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 4: or got his arm on the you know, the hands

1270
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 4: of the receiver before the ball came out. It's just like,

1271
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 4: are you really gonna call it? Are you really gonna

1272
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 4: call it and change the outcome of the game. It's

1273
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 4: just when you have also a group of officials, and

1274
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 4: I thought the referees during that Yukon, Iowa game, we're

1275
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 4: calling pretty loose, like they were letting, they were letting

1276
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 4: the ladies play like that. That was to me what

1277
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 4: a Final Four game should look like. They swallowed the whistles.

1278
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 4: For the most part, they were pretty even in terms

1279
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 4: of what sides they were calling fouls on but to

1280
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 4: call that in that moment, it just seems like a

1281
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 4: bridge too far from me.

1282
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 9: I told Steve yesterday Rich I was like, it was

1283
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 9: the right call. I'm just saying I wouldn't.

1284
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: Have made that.

1285
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, let's remind you it was the

1286
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: fourth illegal pick called on Yukon in that game. And

1287
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: even Gene rm and made light of it after the game, say,

1288
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: we have to do a better job of setting illegal

1289
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: picks because Iowa didn't get called for any and they

1290
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: got called for four of them. All right, So South

1291
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: Carolina crawling back into this game. Now, Iowa leading twenty

1292
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: four to twenty. Final seconds now the first quarter are

1293
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: ticking off, and you're getting to see South Carol. Oh wow,

1294
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean beateln Clark. Just another three. She

1295
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: has eighteen points in the first quarter. She's on pace

1296
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: for a seventy two point game.

1297
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 9: And are we surprised.

1298
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: Nope, Well again, she had four points in the first

1299
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: half against Yukon. I would have thought that Don Staley

1300
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 2: and her coaching staff and players would take note, but

1301
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: apparently not so. An amazing offensive first quarter for Iowa

1302
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty.

1303
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 3: Is the score, do the math. I mean, they're on

1304
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 3: pace for one hundred and eight points in this game.

1305
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 3: So South Carolina is going to have to readjust a lot,

1306
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 3: but to allow her to go off for eighteen points.

1307
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 3: And this is what I asked you right at the start, Rich,

1308
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 3: I mean, what is your defense against Iowa? And you say, well,

1309
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 3: let's take Clark out of the game.

1310
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: Got it?

1311
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: Instead, she has just gone off with eighteen points. She's

1312
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 2: five of eight from the three field, three for four

1313
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: from the three point line, five and six from the

1314
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: three throw line. She doesn't have an assist. Doesn't matter.

1315
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: Eighteen points in the first quarter for Kaitlin Clark.

1316
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Like she should have assists.

1317
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 4: If you are defending Iowa correctly, she should have way

1318
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 4: more assists than she does points because she's the most

1319
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: effective shooter on that roster. So I would rather force

1320
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 4: a double or I should say double, and force her

1321
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 4: to pass and contest those three points and maybe give

1322
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 4: up some dribble drive and you know, the defense having

1323
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 4: to slide help and then have an open look on

1324
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 4: the wing or something like that where Caitlin Clark will

1325
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 4: find the open shooter. But I'd rather that shooter take

1326
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 4: the shot than Caitlyn Clark shoot from mid range or

1327
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 4: from three. So runner off the three point line. Force

1328
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 4: obviously another shooter on the team to step into the limelight,

1329
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 4: into the challenge during the national title game to have

1330
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 4: ice water in their veins too. I would rather lose

1331
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 4: that way than lose with Caitlin Clark scoring eighteen points

1332
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 4: a quarter. This is just this is foolishness. South Carolina

1333
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 4: should know better.

1334
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for South Carolina, a team that comes

1335
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 2: in this game with a record of thirty seven and zero,

1336
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: that was an embarrassing first quarter. Oh yeah, and this

1337
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 2: is not a knock on Caitlyn Clark because she is

1338
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: who she is, But that was an embarrassment. This was

1339
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: a team that was not ready and should have been,

1340
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: especially since they played this very team a year ago.

1341
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens to arrest this game. Rich

1342
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: Speaking of basketball for a second here, we have a

1343
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: little time out here in this Ladies Championship game. I'm

1344
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: want to turn to the NBA for a quick moment

1345
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: here because they're coming down the stretch now as we

1346
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 2: get ready for who's going to be in the play

1347
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: in tournament, Who's going to make the playoffs and everything else.

1348
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 3: Obviously, the Celtics running.

1349
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: Away with the East. Who knows out of the West?

1350
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: Right now, what do you make of the Lakers situation?

1351
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: They won nine of their last ten games. They finally

1352
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: crawled out of the nine slot, at least for a

1353
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: day over the idle Kings. Remember the Kings have the

1354
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: tie break against the Lakers. But if you've seen it

1355
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: up from this Laker team and Lebron and ad, I mean,

1356
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: it's amazing, isn't it that they have been relatively healthy

1357
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: the entire season and still this team is finding itself

1358
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: in the playing round.

1359
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure why. Well, I do know why.

1360
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 2: It's their coach Darmingham and his insistence on starting Tory

1361
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: and Prince for half the season. But that aside, I mean,

1362
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: are you getting a sense this late momentum that they

1363
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: could have another run similar to what they had a

1364
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: year ago?

1365
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?

1366
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 4: Well, And here's the thing, this is to me by design.

1367
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 4: This is what the Lakers do. Now, this is what

1368
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 4: Lebron James does. Now he knows what the playing round is.

1369
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 4: It's it's an automatic bid for them to get into

1370
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 4: the postseason. I mean, now, don't get me wrong. Things

1371
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 4: can can backfire, and they could be a first round

1372
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 4: bounce from the playing tournament. But most likely Lebron James

1373
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 4: is gonna get some calls. Lebron James knows how to

1374
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 4: step up into the moment, and he knows that the

1375
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 4: NBA wants him in the tournament. So I don't think

1376
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 4: he's worried about playing in the playing round. It's not

1377
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 4: that much more wear and tear on his body.

1378
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, what at the most two games?

1379
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 4: Two games, yeah, and he gets to take the pedal

1380
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 4: off the accelerator or I should say foot off the

1381
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 4: accelerator pedal for.

1382
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: A little while during the regular season.

1383
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 4: It makes sense. The guy is nearing forty. He shouldn't

1384
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 4: put his effort into the regular season. If ten teams

1385
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 4: each conference get in, think about that, Steve, five teams.

1386
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: All you have to be is just not You just

1387
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 4: have to not be one of five teams in your

1388
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 4: conference and you get in.

1389
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 3: By the way, if you see him the other day

1390
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 3: nine for ten from three point land.

1391
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I've watched this.

1392
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 2: I'm like eighty nine years old of this guy late

1393
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: in the season hits nine out of ten threes, and

1394
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: his response after the game was, well, you know they

1395
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: did they sort of and guarding me, they say, well,

1396
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: we have to sort of pick our poison here, so we'll,

1397
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: you know, we'll slack off a little bit on the

1398
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: outside shot.

1399
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 3: He goes, And I gotta keep him honest. I mean,

1400
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 3: he wasn't like Braggadocio. It's just like, you know, like

1401
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 3: the strategy of the game. You're like, do you hit

1402
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 3: nine out of ten on the three point land? So

1403
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

1404
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: I think the Lakers defensively showed a lot and their

1405
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 2: went over the Calves.

1406
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 3: That was a big game for the Calves. You know,

1407
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: they're battling right now.

1408
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: That two three four steed in the East, very much

1409
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: up for grabs in the Eastern Conference. All Right, we'll

1410
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: see what happens here in the second quarter. As we're

1411
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 2: just underway, Iowa leading South Carolina by a score of

1412
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty and Caitlin Clark has more than

1413
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: lived up to the hype. I just can't imagine what

1414
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: the numbers are going to be for this game.

1415
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: But which, why didn't they put this in the prime time?

1416
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they this could have been three o'clock

1417
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 2: in the afternoon tip off in the East Coast.

1418
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 4: It is Sunday though, so look, there's a lot more

1419
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 4: people who are at home, you know, I don't know

1420
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 4: getting back from well, I.

1421
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 3: Mean, it's like Sunday NFL football, right.

1422
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 4: Exactly, you know, So it's I get what you're saying.

1423
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 4: You could have had this, maybe you could have even you.

1424
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: Can even move this around. You could have had a.

1425
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 4: Tuesday women's National championship game, you know, a primetime tip off.

1426
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would have bothered or excuse me,

1427
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 4: anybody would have minded if the women's National Championship tipped

1428
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 4: off after the men's.

1429
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't know about that. I think the

1430
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: men would bother him.

1431
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe, you know.

1432
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: You know, with all due respect him, this Yukon team

1433
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: is a great team and they have proven over the

1434
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 2: last two years. I mean, eleven straight tournament wins by

1435
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 2: at least thirteen points. By the way, do you think

1436
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: they were gonna cover yesterday? Spread on the game was

1437
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: twelve and a half. No, yeah, and it did not

1438
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: look like they were going to cover, and they did

1439
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: all right. South Carolina is now within three points. Will

1440
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: continue the coverage there and buch More on the tomorrow's

1441
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: matchup between Purdue and Yukon on the men's side. This

1442
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and Rich Hernberger Fox

1443
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We're live from the tai Iraq dot Com

1444
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,480
Speaker 2: studios and this game is tied Iowa and South Carolina.

1445
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: After scoring eighteen points in the first quarter, Caitlin Clark

1446
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: has zero points halfway through the second quarter. So South

1447
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: Carolina has changed their defensive scheme at least in the moment,

1448
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: and they've gotten back in this game and they've just

1449
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: taken the league. Cardosa Cardosa, the six foot seven center,

1450
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 2: just made a layup. So South Carolinas started this game

1451
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: down ten to nothing and now lead this game thirty

1452
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: six to thirty four inside five minutes to go in

1453
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: the second quarter.

1454
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, South Carolina is doing exactly what I was

1455
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 4: talking about doing. They're trying to get the ball out

1456
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 4: of the best player on Iowa's team, and that's exactly

1457
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 4: what they're doing.

1458
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: They're forcing Kaitlin Clark to.

1459
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 4: Pass and when you run her off the three point

1460
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 4: line and she has to swing the ball out to

1461
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 4: someone else because the defense picks her up or when

1462
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 4: you double her in the paint, it makes it hard

1463
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 4: on a great player to get great looks. And she

1464
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 4: looks She's used to shooting contested shots. She's gonna get

1465
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 4: her points, but it's going to be a trickle instead

1466
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 4: of this torrential downpour that it was in the first quarter.

1467
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, after her five or eight first quarter shooting, she's

1468
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: zero for four shooting here in the second quarter. Iowa

1469
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: now has the chance that a three point play to

1470
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:27,480
Speaker 2: retake the lead tomorrow. When we talk about this Purdue

1471
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: and Yukon matchup again, when we talk about having a

1472
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 2: single dominant player as Zach Edy has been for Purdue,

1473
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,839
Speaker 2: and I know Klingon obviously is a seven to two center,

1474
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 2: so's he's never at least in the tournament, Zach Edy's

1475
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: not faced anywhere near this size in the middle. Does

1476
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: Purdue have enough perimeter game, because if they even slightly

1477
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: neutralize Zach Edy, you feel like this could be a

1478
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: blowout tomorrow. Like like Yukon is just a better team.

1479
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: Have you seen enough? And this is the thing that

1480
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 2: Purdue really wanted to change a year ago, was to

1481
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: have more perimeter players be able to knock down some threes.

1482
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: You know, at least offer an option offensively beyond Edie.

1483
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: I think they've done that for the most part. But

1484
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 2: can you do that against a team like Yukon.

1485
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I personally don't think so. I

1486
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 4: think Yukon is so complete. You know, you talk about

1487
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:36,480
Speaker 4: their ability to score, you know, with Newton.

1488
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: Rich Richt Gott we are we got a special guest

1489
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: joining us right now. He is there in Glendale, Arizona,

1490
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: as his Purdue Bolermakers are getting ready to take on

1491
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: at Yukon tomorrow in the National championship game.

1492
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 3: Bo Are we ready to go? All right?

1493
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, we're trying to get Mason Gillis on. He is

1494
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 2: the senior Ford, He's the big guy off the bench.

1495
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: He's been there the whole time. He's a fifth year

1496
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: senior at Purdue, and so I want to get to

1497
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 2: what happened a year ago. So we're trying to hook

1498
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 2: up with Mason Gillis here right before we get to

1499
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: the top of the hour.

1500
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 3: All right, Mason, are you there? Hello? Mason?

1501
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, Mason, Steve Harbin, rich Armberger, thanks for joining

1502
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: us here on Fox Sports Radio. Mason, We're up against it,

1503
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 2: but we wanted to ask you, as someone that's been

1504
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: in this program for five years now as a senior,

1505
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 2: has seen a lot, including what happened a year ago

1506
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 2: in the first round, how much of a motivator was that?

1507
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, let me start by saying, congratulations,

1508
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 2: I'm making it here all the way to this championship game.

1509
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: But how much of what happened a year ago played

1510
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: into what has happened this year for you and your team?

1511
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 11: It was huge. I think the biggest thing with us

1512
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 11: is just being able to sit in it and have

1513
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 11: the open conversations with each other. I think that if

1514
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 11: we were to avoid the conversations of what we needed

1515
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 11: to do to grow, if we avoided looking at each

1516
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 11: other in the eye and trying to understand each other,

1517
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 11: we wouldn't be on the stage we are today. We

1518
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 11: wouldn't have been able to make the growth that we

1519
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 11: were able to make to get to the point where were.

1520
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 4: Out to day, Mason, when you look at your opponent

1521
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 4: in this National Championship game, I was going to go

1522
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 4: into this Die tribe about how unbeatable they seem. They

1523
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 4: have those big three obviously clinging in the middle. How

1524
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 4: do you go up against a Yukon. What is the

1525
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 4: preparation like, especially given that they've romped the field for

1526
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 4: two years now up until this moment here tomorrow night.

1527
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I believe that they need to respect that they

1528
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 11: have earned. You know, they obviously have won the national

1529
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 11: championship last year. They're back in the National Championship this year,

1530
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 11: and so they're an amazing team. You know, I think

1531
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 11: that they've done everything that they needed to do to

1532
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 11: be the best that they are. But also we're really good.

1533
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 11: We have the National Player of the Year two times.

1534
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 11: We have hungered guy's, competitive guys, people that can hoop,

1535
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 11: and knowing that it's going to be a great game,

1536
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 11: knowing that we had to be able to prepare the

1537
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 11: right way, prepare the same way we was just preparing

1538
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 11: all year, and just come here and put our best forward.

1539
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 11: There's many times as we talk about our best is enough. Yes,

1540
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 11: they're an amazing team, but anybody can get beat on

1541
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 11: any given day. We personally showed that last year, and

1542
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 11: so we just have to put the switch play our

1543
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 11: game play. Lewis relaxed, aggressive early and Offen.

1544
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 2: Mason just quickly here because you've obviously played with Zach

1545
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: over these several years, talk about him and his devotion

1546
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: to the game and how much he has grown as

1547
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 2: a player since you've been teammates.

1548
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 11: That's huge. I remember whenever he first stets on campus.

1549
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 11: You know, it was hard to throw the ball to him.

1550
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 11: He didn't know if he was going to catch it

1551
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 11: and not catch it. He wasn't for sure what was

1552
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 11: going to happen. But now you know, he's our go to.

1553
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 11: He's our guy, and whenever we need anybody we need

1554
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 11: a bucket, we go to him. We relieve pressure with him.

1555
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 11: And on top of that, he's a great guy. He's

1556
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 11: never let the success but the camera, but the attention

1557
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 11: gets for him. And nobody's perfect. Yes, people have good

1558
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 11: bad days, but that's why we have a surrounding cast

1559
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 11: around him. Well, Mason proving himself and we're here for him.

1560
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: We got one more job to do, all right, Well, Mason,

1561
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: all the best of luck tomorrow on the match against Yukon,

1562
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: and thanks so much for joining us here in Fox

1563
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

1564
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 11: Thank you.

1565
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: That's Mason Gillis, who, by the way, adjusted his game

1566
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: on from being a starter to the key guy off

1567
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 2: the bench. All right, coming up on the other side.

1568
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: Much more on this women's championship game. It's tied right now.

1569
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday. This is what a championship

1570
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: game should be. But we're watching right now between Iowa

1571
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: and South Carolina tie game. Right now, as we close

1572
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: in on the end of the first half of this

1573
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1578
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Speaker 2: We've said this many times rich over the years about

1579
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: why March Madness is so popular, and that is because

1580
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: even if the teams can be anonymous in a lot

1581
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 2: of ways in terms of the players, many times we just.

1582
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 3: Get a lot of great finishes.

1583
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: And we haven't had that many great finishes on the

1584
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: men's side this year.

1585
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 3: We just haven't.

1586
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: But on the lady side, we've had a few, and

1587
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 2: we're getting a game right now with the fifty nine

1588
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: point nine seconds to go in the first half Iowa

1589
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: and South Carolina that could be hopefully heading to that

1590
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 2: kind of finish.

1591
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: I agree.

1592
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 4: I think that it hasn't been a boring march because

1593
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 4: there's been some interest with some of the teams who've

1594
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 4: gotten bounced in the earlier rounds, some of the cinderellas

1595
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 4: that we enjoyed, like the Oakland storyline that was actually

1596
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 4: snuffed by the cinderella that carried it all the way

1597
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 4: to the Final four, which was NC stayed as an

1598
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 4: eleven seed. I don't know how much of a cinderella

1599
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 4: you could call that, but an eleven seed getting to

1600
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 4: a national team.

1601
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 3: That's a cinderella.

1602
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: That team had more losses than any team ever that

1603
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 2: made it to the final four.

1604
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 4: So I mean there was enough intrigue from a standpoint of, hey,

1605
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 4: can we see a significant run from you, like a

1606
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 4: David versus Goliath standpoint, But in terms of the actual games,

1607
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 4: once we got into the sweet sixteen, it felt like

1608
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 4: inevitability took over and it felt like a lot of

1609
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 4: these games were very predictable. Even some of the upsets,

1610
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 4: it felt like they were a little bit predictable. So

1611
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 4: interesting track that we've been on here for the men's side.

1612
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 4: The women's side has been much more interesting, much more entertaining,

1613
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 4: and this game is obviously right in life with all.

1614
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: Of that, well, I'll tell you what a very interesting

1615
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 2: finish to this half. So South Carolina hit a three

1616
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 2: point shot to take a one point lead. Iowa had

1617
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: the ball, and basically it's Caitlin Clark, you know, winding

1618
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 2: down the clock to take a final shot, and she

1619
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: had the ball stolen from her and a layup at

1620
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 2: the other end. So instead of her attempting a shot

1621
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: to possibly give Iowa the lead at the half, it

1622
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 2: is South Carolina now leading forty nine to forty six.

1623
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 2: So they outscored Iowa twenty nine to nineteen in that

1624
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: second quarter, and after having eighteen points in the first quarter,

1625
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark just made one three point shot three points

1626
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: in the second quarter.

1627
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 3: So now and this again we talk about.

1628
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: Again when we talk about talent versus goat right, I

1629
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: mean again, we watch Caitlin Clark hitting three point shots

1630
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 2: like we have never seen a woman do ever ever. Ever,

1631
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: I've never seen a woman that could shoot this consistently

1632
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 2: from deep and then they measure it out. I mean

1633
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 2: she's throwing up thirty footers. I mean, this is Steph

1634
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: Curry's stuff that she's doing it out on the court.

1635
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 2: But it is a team sport, and South Carolina has

1636
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: a deeper team, and they have a coach that's been

1637
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: there and done that, and they're motivated by the fact

1638
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 2: that they lost to this Iowa team last year in

1639
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: the semi finals. So that second quarter said a lot

1640
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 2: about Don Staley, about these players, that, hey, that was

1641
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: an ugly first quarter. Ugly, we got to make some changes.

1642
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: That's some coaching's all about. And they did that obviously

1643
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: in the second quarter.

1644
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot of people when they watch

1645
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 4: a dominant team from a record standpoint, they assume that

1646
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 4: it's going to be easy. Well that's not always the

1647
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 4: case South Carolina. Even though they've made their way to

1648
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 4: this championship game relatively unscathed, they've I've had They've had

1649
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 4: some close ones. I mean, they're a Sweet sixteen round

1650
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 4: game against the against the who is it the Hoosiers

1651
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 4: I think they played in the Sweet sixteen.

1652
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: That was a close game.

1653
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 4: I mean, look, you survived near misses. If you're a

1654
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 4: great basketball team, just like any basketball team, men's, women's, pro, college, amateur,

1655
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if you're gonna be a great team,

1656
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 4: you're gonna have moments that test you, obstacles adversity to overcome.

1657
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 4: And so, for sure the first quarter getting way down

1658
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 4: and probably feel in some kind of way about the

1659
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 4: way you're playing defense against inarguably the best player in

1660
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 4: basketball this year. On the women's side, they made adjustments,

1661
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 4: and they made quick adjustments, and they now have a

1662
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 4: three point lead at the half.

1663
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: All right, I want to switch gears to the NFL momentarily.

1664
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm anxious to hear your spin on the Stephan Diggs situation. Yeah,

1665
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 2: some people say it's addition through subtraction.

1666
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 3: It was obvious that he wasn't happy in Buffalo.

1667
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: Yes, we saw it on the sidelines, We heard about

1668
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: it in the locker room. As great a player as

1669
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: he is, if you're one of the best players on

1670
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: your team and you're not happy, that could have a

1671
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: really adverse effect on the rest of the team. So

1672
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,560
Speaker 2: do you agree that the Bills did what was necessary

1673
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: to move forward? And how much are they going to

1674
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 2: miss Digs in that offense?

1675
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 4: Boy, They're gonna miss him a lot unless they find

1676
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 4: a way to replace him in the draft. Josh Allen

1677
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 4: and Diggs had connected for over one thousand yards every

1678
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 4: year they played together. Diggs was available the majority of

1679
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: the games that he played in Buffalo. He was the

1680
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 4: favorite receiver and it wasn't even close. When you take

1681
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 4: away such an important piece of an offense and it

1682
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 4: happens immediately, you know, there's no like, you're not weaning

1683
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 4: your way off of Stefan Diggs. This wasn't a situation

1684
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 4: where it's like, oh, well, he was a really important,

1685
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 4: you know player for a while, but he's getting a

1686
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 4: little old, or he's starting to get banged up as

1687
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 4: he ages with the Buffalo Bills, and you know they're

1688
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 4: planning a replacement plan. Maybe one of these youngsters is

1689
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 4: going to step up and become wr one for the Bills. No, no, no,

1690
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 4: that's not what happened. He was traded, so all of

1691
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 4: a sudden during OTA's Josh Allen's got to find a

1692
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 4: new security playing kit. He's got to find a guy

1693
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 4: he can go to who can be reliably catch the

1694
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 4: football for him, especially in contested spots like Diggs has

1695
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 4: been able to come up with for Buffalo for years

1696
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 4: and years. Also, what Diggs did to defenses changes the

1697
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 4: availability of other options on the offense, so he gets

1698
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 4: doubled while it opens up single coverage on a tight end,

1699
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 4: or you know, if they're they're if a team is

1700
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 4: forced to play zone because they don't have good enough

1701
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 4: corners to cover digs, well, as a result of that,

1702
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 4: you're going to have some of your better pass catchers

1703
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 4: and route runners get open in the underneath zones.

1704
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: You know.

1705
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of reasons why a star receiver

1706
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 4: is important.

1707
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: Now.

1708
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 4: What's also important, though, and this is kind of putting

1709
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 4: the show on the other foot, and it's kind of

1710
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 4: talking out of both sides of my mouth here is

1711
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 4: locker room culture and digs. He became a problem in Minnesota,

1712
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 4: and he became a problem in Buffalo, and it's interesting

1713
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 4: on his way out the door. The sourced report we're

1714
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 4: getting is that Josh Allen snap that digs after a

1715
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 4: week one in Buffalo, Right, yeah, I mean clearly that's

1716
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 4: coming from Stefan's camp, right, you know, like that, where

1717
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 4: else would it come from. We know exactly what this is,

1718
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 4: and I think it's kind of petty, to be honest

1719
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 4: with you. The common denominator here in terms of you know,

1720
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 4: this sort of stuff going on is Stefan Diggs. I

1721
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 4: mean Diggs again, he was unhappy. He clearly wanted out.

1722
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,839
Speaker 4: I don't think he needs to throw shade at Buffalo

1723
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 4: on his way out the door. Maybe he feels like

1724
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 4: there's an acts that he needs to grind. I guess

1725
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 4: we'll hear from him in person at some point during

1726
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 4: the offseason. But yeah, for right now, this makes the

1727
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 4: Texans a lot better, and this makes the Buffalo Bills

1728
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 4: a lot worse unless they find a way to replace

1729
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:23,759
Speaker 4: his production.

1730
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned the Houston Texans.

1731
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 2: Now everyone's jumping on the Texans bandwagon, and look, obviously

1732
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: they're heading in the right direction. Remember they also made

1733
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 2: the deal to get Joe Mixon to add to their

1734
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: offensive arsenal. But I warn you about the Houston Texans

1735
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: as far as twenty twenty four is concerned, because so

1736
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: many times, and there's always exceptions to the rule, but

1737
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 2: more often than not, when a team jumps out of nowhere,

1738
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: as the Texans did this past season, there's usually a

1739
01:29:54,720 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 2: step backwards before you take another step forward. And you know,

1740
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 2: we're reminded last year when they got to the postseason.

1741
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 2: You know, they had the blowout win against the Browns,

1742
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:11,799
Speaker 2: and then they got annihilated by the Ravens and teams

1743
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: will adjust to CJ.

1744
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 3: Stroud. Now he's gonna have to make adjustments as well.

1745
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 2: But teams are gonna have an off season where they're

1746
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 2: gonna break down Stroud and find his weaknesses and do

1747
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: things differently, and he's gonna have to adjust to that.

1748
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 3: It's not uncommon. So I like where the Texans are going.

1749
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 2: I think they're in good shape in terms of where

1750
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 2: they could be three, four, five years down the road.

1751
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,440
Speaker 3: I just don't feel like, though, Wow.

1752
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: You know they're gonna be the prime the culpra to

1753
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 2: knock out the Chiefs and the AFC.

1754
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 3: I think it's a little too soon to say that.

1755
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1756
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 4: Look, I mean they've done a lot of things right

1757
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 4: to label them as a real contender in the AFC.

1758
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna have to see at least some games,

1759
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 4: you know, because, like we've seen before, rookies can come

1760
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 4: out and have an incredible first year, and in year

1761
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 4: two at the quarterback position, they can really struggle in

1762
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 4: year two.

1763
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 3: Vince Young prime example.

1764
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: It happens all the time.

1765
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 3: Max Jones.

1766
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 4: More recently, it's a hard thing to be a consistently

1767
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 4: great quarterback CJ. Stroud cleared a major, major hurdle in

1768
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 4: his rookie season, being a great rookie quarterback. That was

1769
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 4: one of the most impressive, especially when you throw into

1770
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 4: the mix the context of the injuries he had up

1771
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 4: front on the offensive line, the lack of weapons that

1772
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 4: the Texans started the season with and continue to offer

1773
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 4: him as many of the receivers he became comfortable with

1774
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 4: got injured throughout the season. He was sensational. So all

1775
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 4: credit where credits due, Now, can you replicate that success?

1776
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 4: It's really difficult to be consistently good at that quarterback

1777
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 4: position in the NFL, and historically we've seen a lot

1778
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 4: of great players after a great rookie year, I should say,

1779
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 4: have a huge fall off in year two.

1780
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

1781
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 4: I definitely want to see how Stefan Diggs plays with him. Also,

1782
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 4: I think the Texans Zoe did everything right. They traded

1783
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 4: him and they didn't give up a first round draft pick,

1784
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 4: so that was impressive. They gave up a two, a five,

1785
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 4: and a six.

1786
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: That's good.

1787
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 4: The other thing that they did that I was impressed

1788
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 4: with was they put him on a one year deal.

1789
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 4: So Stefan Diggs has to be on his best behavior.

1790
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs is on a prove it deal and they

1791
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 4: guaranteed him a boatload of money, but they were on

1792
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 4: boarding salary anyways.

1793
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: So now they hedge their bets.

1794
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 4: They get probably the best of Stefan Diggs for at

1795
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 4: least one year, and then they can, frankly, they can

1796
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 4: move off him if they want to in year three

1797
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 4: of Stroud's development, unless he develops a sensational relationship with

1798
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 4: Stroud and then in which case maybe you think about

1799
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 4: extending him. So right now, the Houston Texans are in

1800
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 4: the caffarts seat. I think they've done this very smart.

1801
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: All Right, now is that time of the year in

1802
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 2: the NFL, just weeks away from the draft, where you

1803
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 2: just hear the wildest rumors. Right, this is all that

1804
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 2: smokescreen stuff that goes now, oh yeah, he's rising, he's falling.

1805
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 2: These teams want this guy and that guy, the last

1806
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 2: quarterback before CJ. Stroud to win Offensive Rookie of the Year.

1807
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put him in a trade that's gonna blow

1808
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 2: your mind. Okay, it's ridiculous, but if you think about it,

1809
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 2: it might make sense.

1810
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 3: Well, break it down.

1811
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Harberger, Fox

1812
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,839
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We are live from the Tyraq dot Com studio.

1813
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Second half underway now on the Women's championship game. South

1814
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 2: Carolina has extended their lead now fifty one to forty six.

1815
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 2: And now Iowa's answer with a bucket. No, it's fifty

1816
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 2: three forty six right now. So South Carolina now extending

1817
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 2: the lead to seven at the outset the second half

1818
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 2: of this game. All right, I want to throw something

1819
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 2: at you. By the way, I was looking up at

1820
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 2: an interesting stat to me. I know, most of my

1821
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 2: stats are not interesting anybody else. The Offensive Rookie of

1822
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 2: the Year award has been given out since nineteen sixty seven.

1823
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 2: In the first thirty seven years of that award, only

1824
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 2: one quarterback won the award in the first thirty seven years.

1825
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 2: In the last twenty years, eleven quarterbacks have won. So

1826
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 2: the pressure to get these high pick quarterbacks out on

1827
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 2: the field as quickly as possible is very different than

1828
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 2: it was years ago. Yeah, and that's pointed out that

1829
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,560
Speaker 2: we you know, we've been getting you know, Sam Bradford,

1830
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 2: Cam Newton RG three. It's sort of a mixed bag

1831
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. The last quarterback before CJ. Stroud to win

1832
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,799
Speaker 2: this award was Justin Herbert in twenty twenty.

1833
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

1834
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: So Herbert has been in the league four years and

1835
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 2: his record as a starting quarterback is thirty and thirty two.

1836
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 2: So I saw oh this trade online. I mean, it's

1837
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 2: ridiculous trade, and honestly, in a lot of ways it

1838
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 2: doesn't work because there'd be a major cap hit with

1839
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,799
Speaker 2: the new contract that Herbert signed. But let's play along

1840
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 2: with this for a second. Let's say it was really

1841
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 2: a doable trade because we've been hearing a lot of

1842
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 2: buzz about the Chargers and that fifth overall pick is

1843
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 2: in play, right, So you're the Chargers, you have the

1844
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 2: fifth pick in the draft, and the Minnesota Vikings obviously

1845
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: are looking for a quarterback in this draft.

1846
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 3: Most likely here was the trade.

1847
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings trade both their first round picks this year,

1848
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,719
Speaker 2: which is the number eleven pick and the number twenty

1849
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 2: three pick and their first round pick next year and

1850
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:51,679
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison to the Chargers for Justin Herbert. Okay, meaning

1851
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 2: that the Chargers still have the fifth pick in the draft,

1852
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 2: so they would have the fifth pick in the draft.

1853
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 2: The eleventh pick in the draft, the twenty third pick

1854
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: in the draft Jordan Addison, and a number one pick

1855
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 2: next year. This is a team coming off of five

1856
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: and twelve season.

1857
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 1: Here's the problem as I see it. I'm not listen.

1858
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 4: I think Justin Herbert's a special talent and I think

1859
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 4: he would help the Vikings win a lot sooner than

1860
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold or whatever their plan is here moving forward.

1861
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 1: But I will say this, He's not cheap.

1862
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 4: And as we've seen, and we were just discussing the

1863
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 4: Houston Texans, when you have a cheap young quarterback CJ. Stroud,

1864
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 4: Rock Purdy, Jalen Hurts, you can build a super team

1865
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 4: around that young talent.

1866
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: As soon as he gets paid. Gets a lot harder.

1867
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts gets paid, getting a lot harder for the

1868
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles to win.

1869
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 4: Now, last season, they got off to that ten and

1870
01:36:56,280 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 4: one start, but it kind of fell apart. They're getting old.

1871
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 4: They need to replace a lot of these retired and

1872
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 4: free agent players that they've lost this offseason. We'll see

1873
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 4: what they look like next year. It's gonna be a

1874
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 4: lot harder to surround Jalen Hurts with talent. Though, after

1875
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 4: paying him. Brock Purdy, he's got one more year before

1876
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 4: it gets real.

1877
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Expensive to keep him.

1878
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 4: And if he gets back to the postseason, and so

1879
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 4: his resume reflects an NFC Championship Game run, albeit he

1880
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 4: was injured in that game he hurt his elbow, but

1881
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 4: then a Super Bowl run in his second season and

1882
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 4: a better statistical season than his rookie year, and then

1883
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 4: gets back to the playoffs with the San Francisco forty

1884
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,719
Speaker 4: nine ers. In year three, they're gonna have to break

1885
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 4: him off, which is going to alter the composition of

1886
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,879
Speaker 4: that forty nine ers team. So, if the Vikings are smart,

1887
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 4: they don't divorce themselves of any of that draft capital.

1888
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 1: You're talking about. They try to get cheaper, they try

1889
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,799
Speaker 1: to get younger anything.

1890
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 4: If anything, you move up the board and you try

1891
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 4: to get a quarterback in this year's draft, leverage your

1892
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 4: future a little bit if you see value in doing so.

1893
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: Otherwise, maybe see.

1894
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 4: If a valuable or a value add quarterback drops down

1895
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,440
Speaker 4: to your draftable position.

1896
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 1: Where you're selecting in this year's draft and grab one

1897
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: of these guys.

1898
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 2: You are the first person I've thrown that at that

1899
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 2: takes the Vikings angle on this it's amazing. I'm thinking

1900
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, the Chargers can't do that. You're talking

1901
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 2: from the Viking stamp.

1902
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: They can't do it.

1903
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 2: And I mean again, I talked to Adam Kaplan about

1904
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 2: this a little bit yesterday and he pointed out again

1905
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 2: the cap hit that the Chargers would take in this

1906
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 2: deal because of the huge contract they signed Herbert too.

1907
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 2: I guess the bigger question to me with Justin Herbert

1908
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 2: is this, have we seen the best of Justin Herbert?

1909
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 2: His third and fourth years were not as good as

1910
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 2: his first and second years. His peak year was that

1911
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 2: second year. Remember he was voted the Pro Bowl starter

1912
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 2: for the AFC after a second season. Now, you could

1913
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 2: talk about injuries to the rest of the team. But

1914
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 2: when I threw this out at Adam Kaplan and talked

1915
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 2: about getting all this draft capital to build to the future,

1916
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 2: he conceded the fact. I mean, he went down a

1917
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 2: litany of needs for this Chargers team.

1918
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it was like an.

1919
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 2: Endless list of gaping holes in this roster that he

1920
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 2: needed to fill. And is Herbert's talent so great that

1921
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 2: you can overlook that because you can't possibly dispose of

1922
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 2: a quarterback of this stature of this talent and then

1923
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 2: the idea that Jim Harbaugh could take his game to

1924
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 2: a whole different level that we've seen or.

1925
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,759
Speaker 3: Is this as good as it going to get for Herbert?

1926
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: Like?

1927
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:44,799
Speaker 3: Have we already?

1928
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 2: Because you always have to talk about growth? How much

1929
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 2: better is he going to get?

1930
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 11: That?

1931
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 1: To me?

1932
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: And especially now that his safety blanket Keenan Allen is gone,

1933
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: how's that going to change.

1934
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 3: Things for Justin Herbert? I don't know the answer to it.

1935
01:39:59,040 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 3: I really don't.

1936
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 2: Mean I asked this question you and I had interviewed

1937
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 2: a lot of NFL people. I remember the whole Jalen

1938
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 2: Hurts situation where I was asking people what do you

1939
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 2: see as his ceiling?

1940
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 3: Like where?

1941
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 2: How good can this guy get? So I'm asking you,

1942
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 2: have we seen the best of Justin Herbert? Or is

1943
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 2: there another level to his game that Jim Harbaugh can

1944
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 2: bring out?

1945
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 4: I think Jim Harbaugh isn't given enough credit for how

1946
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 4: much he gets out of quarterbacks. You know what he

1947
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:30,440
Speaker 4: was able to do developing a program for Andrew Lockett Stanford,

1948
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 4: what he was able to do with JJ McCarthy most

1949
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 4: recently at Michigan. What he was able to do with

1950
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:41,759
Speaker 4: Colin Kaepernick in his first stint with the San Francisco

1951
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 4: forty nine ers in the NFL, and also Alex Smith.

1952
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 4: He got a lot out of him before he was

1953
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 4: injured and they had to completely change the offense to

1954
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 4: match their playing style to Kaepernick's abilities. So I don't

1955
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 4: think Jim Harbaugh gets enough credit for how much of

1956
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,759
Speaker 4: a QB win he is, And I think the reason

1957
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 4: why is because his teams have a trademark toughness, a

1958
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 4: defense that is always top notch, a run game that

1959
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 4: is the emphasis, if not the I guess you could say,

1960
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 4: the most impactful part of their offense. You know, those

1961
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 4: things aside, his quarterbacks are always successful. And the reason

1962
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 4: why is because I think when you have a defense

1963
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 4: that gives your offense second chance opportunities, and it gives

1964
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 4: your offense the ability to then slow the game down

1965
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 4: and do exactly what they want to do. Run the

1966
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 4: football a little bit more methodically, work the field, not

1967
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 4: have to go for big shots all the time like

1968
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 4: it takes a lot of the pressure off the quarterback.

1969
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 4: And I think unfortunately for Justin Herbert it was like

1970
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,879
Speaker 4: hero ball out there for three years with Brandon Staley

1971
01:41:55,240 --> 01:42:00,600
Speaker 4: Brandon Staley consistently made decisions that hurt that team consistently.

1972
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 4: He would make bad decisions on fourth down consistently, and

1973
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 4: as a result, they kept getting behind the eight ball.

1974
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 4: And then Justin Herbert, who's a special player, I think,

1975
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 4: felt a lot of pressure to probably do things outside

1976
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:19,759
Speaker 4: of his comfort zone. Although he seems comfortable obviously trying

1977
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 4: to win football games. He just he regressed a little

1978
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 4: bit last year and I think he needs some more

1979
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 4: continuity as a part of the offensive system. He's also

1980
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 4: played for multiple offensive coordinators during his time as a

1981
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 4: Chargers quarterback. I think having a secure voice in the

1982
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 4: room who's going to be there for years now.

1983
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: Because Jim Harbaugh is going nowhere.

1984
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 4: He signed a long contract with the Chargers, I think

1985
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 4: there's going to be some on ramp here for him

1986
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 4: to work with Greg Roman to have a stable offense

1987
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 4: and get this thing going the way it should have

1988
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 4: gone when they had Austin Eckler, because they should have

1989
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 4: relied on him more in the run game, and they

1990
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 4: should have, you know, played a little bit more of

1991
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 4: a conservative style of offense instead of trying to get

1992
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 4: vertical down the field all the time and forcing the

1993
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 4: ball to a wide receiver frankly who wasn't ready for

1994
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 4: the next level in their first round draft pick last year.

1995
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:19,919
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of reasons why the Chargers failed.

1996
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 4: I don't want to name Justin Herbert even close to

1997
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 4: the top of the list of reasons why they've failed.

1998
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 4: But I don't think he was given a lot of

1999
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 4: opportunities to have success either.

2000
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 2: Well, and again my point is on that roster, he's

2001
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 2: your only marketable guy in terms of getting a haul

2002
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 2: if you really want to do a complete makeover of

2003
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 2: a franchise, which, by the way, when you have a

2004
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 2: five to twelve season and a new coach coming in

2005
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 2: Jim Harbrough is not going anywhere. They could go oh

2006
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 2: to seventeen. He'll beat the coach in the next several years,

2007
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 2: believe me. So I don't know what his mindset is.

2008
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 2: If he thinks there's enough saligable where if they move

2009
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 2: a few pieces they can get back into contention, or

2010
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 2: if he's of the mindset to blow the whole thing

2011
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 2: up let's start over again. And he has that kind

2012
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 2: of cachet, believe me. With the deal he has signed

2013
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 2: with the Chargers. All right, let's find out what it's

2014
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 2: trending right now as we continue to keep our eyes

2015
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 2: on this Ladies National Championship game.

2016
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 3: And it's still anybody's game.

2017
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 9: Mind it is.

2018
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 10: You know, the first half, it was Iowa who came

2019
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 10: out hot. The second half, South Carolina has come out hot,

2020
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 10: but it is still a close game game. Cocks on

2021
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 10: top of the Hawkeyes fifty seven fifty three, five minutes

2022
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 10: to go in the third quarter. Caitlin Clark eighteen points

2023
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 10: in the first quarter, definitely has slowed down. Does have

2024
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 10: twenty three points, six rebounds for assists. Camila Cardoso has

2025
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:46,759
Speaker 10: a double double four South Carolina eleven points, ten rebounds.

2026
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 10: And I was wrong earlier. I said she was a sophomore. No,

2027
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 10: Hannah Stolkey is the sophomore. Cardoso is a senior, and

2028
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 10: she's headed to the WNBA. She's already declared. I'm sure

2029
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 10: somebody's gonna swoop her up really quickly. But yes, like

2030
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 10: you said, the madness is everything we've ever wanted in

2031
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 10: this championship game, and we still have more to go.

2032
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 9: Let's check in on the NBA. We've got some games

2033
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 9: going on.

2034
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 10: My Clippers are losing at home to the Cavaliers sixty

2035
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 10: six forty eight with four minutes to go in the

2036
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 10: first half. The Rockets are beating the Mavericks in Dallas

2037
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 10: sixty one forty two with about five minutes to go

2038
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 10: in the first half. In Major League Baseball, we've got

2039
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 10: some games that have already wrapped up.

2040
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 9: The Braves swept the Diamondbacks five to two. The Pirates

2041
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 9: walked it off.

2042
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 10: Against the Orioles on a throwing air or on a

2043
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 10: throwing air. Three to two was the final score. The

2044
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 10: Nationals defeated the Phillies three to two. The Mets with

2045
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 10: the three to one victory over the Reds. The A's

2046
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:40,679
Speaker 10: crushed the Tigers seven to one. Currently going on, Yankees

2047
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 10: still holding on to that lead over the Blue Jays

2048
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 10: at home sixty three, bottom of the eighth inning. The

2049
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 10: Royals have taken the lead over the White Sox. It's

2050
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 10: five to three, top of the ninth. The Brewers are

2051
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:52,839
Speaker 10: still all over the Mariners. It's ten to two, bottom

2052
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 10: of the eighth. Marlin so close to getting their first

2053
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 10: win of the season. They're beating the Cardinals ten to one.

2054
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 10: In Saint Louis. It's top of the ninth inning. The

2055
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 10: Dodgers and the Cubs. Still on a rain delay, with

2056
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 10: the Cubs on top, six zero, bottom of the fourth inning.

2057
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 10: In Chicago, the Raizar blanking the Rockies three zero, top

2058
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,759
Speaker 10: of the sixth. The Padres on the scoreboard first against

2059
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 10: the Giants. It's one zero bottom of the second innings.

2060
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 9: It's a busy day.

2061
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 10: We even have some golf going on at the Texas

2062
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 10: at the Valero Texas Open.

2063
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 9: It is the fourth and final round.

2064
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 10: Actually, Batillas still in the lead.

2065
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 9: He's been in the lead this entire tournament.

2066
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 10: He still is eighteen hunder par overall through eleven poles.

2067
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 9: So far in this round.

2068
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, and we just saw

2069
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, who since the first quarter was just two

2070
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 2: of ten shooting, but she just made a basket to

2071
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 2: cut the lead to two. So South Carolina leading Iowa

2072
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:49,640
Speaker 2: by a score of fifty seven two fifty five, and

2073
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 2: I believe they had extended the lead to nine at

2074
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 2: one point here in the second half, and Iowa has

2075
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:59,719
Speaker 2: come back and another miss for South Carolina. They're dominance

2076
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 2: on the awards is pretty clear, as they get a

2077
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 2: follow up basket here Caitlin Clark by the way, even

2078
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 2: though she hasn't shot well since the first quarter, has

2079
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 2: been making some great passes. I mean, she's got a

2080
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 2: complete game, no question. But the only thing that's gonna

2081
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 2: count is at the end of this game. I mean

2082
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 2: that's where the legends are born, right. You think about

2083
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: the Jordans, you think about the Kobe's, and you think

2084
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 2: about you know, clock winding down and having to hit

2085
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 2: that big shot at the end of the game.

2086
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 3: That's where this is going to go.

2087
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 2: As South Carolina hit a three, now has a seven

2088
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 2: point lead in this game. All right, So, yeah, we're

2089
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 2: gonna hear a lot of rumors around the NFL as

2090
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 2: far as the draft is concerned. Is it safe for

2091
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 2: me to say that all thirty two NFL teams have

2092
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 2: already got their draft boards done.

2093
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 3: Two weeks before the draft.

2094
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that your draft board is done.

2095
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,639
Speaker 4: I would say the order of your draft board isn't

2096
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 4: necessarily done yet, meaning you could have. Now the arguments

2097
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 4: around the table begin where certain coaches, players, or I

2098
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 4: should say certain coaches personnel decision makers are going to

2099
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 4: argue for their guys. You know, oh I saw this guy.

2100
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 4: You know he played in cold weather wet games. I

2101
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 4: was there when they took down such and such, and

2102
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 4: you know, you're crazy if you're gonna put that great

2103
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 4: on him.

2104
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 1: He needs to be our QB two. You know, ah,

2105
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: this is nuts. You know that running back.

2106
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 4: He's durable, he's agile, he has a light injury history.

2107
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: He's the guy. I'm telling you, he's the guy. He

2108
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: needs to be our RB one. You know those.

2109
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 4: Conversations are not happening because the Hayes in the barn.

2110
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 4: As far as all the film watching, yeah, I say

2111
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 4: that these guys will still crunch on their film and

2112
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 4: they'll still try to find any angle to argue whatever

2113
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 4: they can. But for the most part, the draft boards

2114
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 4: are done now. They're just placing exactly where they think

2115
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 4: certain players should or will go. And they're starting to

2116
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 4: do mock drafts. Like there's a lot of teams that

2117
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 4: will do. They'll pretend that they're on the clock and

2118
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:13,719
Speaker 4: they'll do full rounds of the draft, sometimes a complete draft.

2119
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 4: They'll pretend as they're working through, Okay, this team took

2120
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 4: this team, and sometimes they'll make it last just about

2121
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,719
Speaker 4: as long as the draft. It can be really draining,

2122
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,640
Speaker 4: but it's a good exercise to get everybody prepared for

2123
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 4: that day.

2124
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 2: All right, South Carolina on an eight nothing run have

2125
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 2: extendedly to ten with two minutes to go in the

2126
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 2: third quarter. So right now South Carolina rolling, And I

2127
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 2: was going to play a little catch up here. Plus

2128
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 2: the idea, Rich when you talk about your board being set,

2129
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:47,679
Speaker 2: is yet you got to figure out the other thirty

2130
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 2: one boards. So you're trying to figure out because if

2131
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 2: you have your mindset on a guy, because we see

2132
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 2: this all the time, we all we see teams move

2133
01:49:56,360 --> 01:50:00,040
Speaker 2: up in the draft to get somebody. Sometimes. I I

2134
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 2: remember back in my Raider days, we were sitting there.

2135
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 2: We needed a wide receiver. The great, the late great

2136
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Cliff Branch had retired and we needed

2137
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 2: a speed receiver in the first round.

2138
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 3: And we were sitting there late in the draft.

2139
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers had just won the Super Bowl,

2140
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 2: their second Super Bowl, and we got blindsided. They leapfrogged

2141
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 2: us and took a guy out of Mississippi Valley State

2142
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 2: named Jerry Rice. We took a guy named Jesse Hester

2143
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. And it was funny because I remember

2144
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 2: Tom Floor is our Hall of Fame coach, was they

2145
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 2: were talking about, Hey, I mean they jumped you for

2146
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 2: this Jerry Rice guy. Is that a guy you wanted?

2147
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 2: And they're like, no, no, no, we got the guy

2148
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 2: we wonted. You know, how'd that work out for the

2149
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 2: forty nine ers? But they knew right like, and so

2150
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 2: this is that's the other play. Here is where you

2151
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 2: have to figure out, Okay, where is this guy going

2152
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 2: to go in the draft. And this is not just

2153
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 2: first round picks those second round picks that you know,

2154
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 2: you know what it is. You see these teams leaping

2155
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 2: because they got I gotta get this guy.

2156
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 3: So there's it's a great get. I love it. I mean,

2157
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 3: oh I can't get enough. I can't. I can't get enough.

2158
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: A bit. It's chess.

2159
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Speaker 4: It's it's chess with human pop big time. It's it's

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01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 4: it's a game of strategy. It's stratigo, right You ever

2161
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,719
Speaker 4: play that game where I did? Yeah back in the day. Yep,

2162
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 4: you're trying to guess what the other player has where

2163
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 4: on the board, or it's a game of risk, like

2164
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 4: how can we conquer these lands?

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Speaker 1: You know, because.

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Speaker 4: Everybody has their own strategy and you don't know where

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01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 4: anybody's gonna go, and then all of a sudden, as

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Speaker 4: the first round starts to file in, you.

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Speaker 1: Can get an idea.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh wow, okay, okay, so the Texans they're

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01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 4: going to be more focused on the defense because they

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01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 4: really you know that last edition with Stefan del Okay,

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01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 4: that's good to know.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's see what's Oh the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. They're loading up on.

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01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 4: On these in the later rounds are loading up on

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01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 4: offensive linemen. Okay, so we got to keep an eye

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01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 4: on that. If they're before us, we know that there's

2179
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Speaker 4: a potential, you know, if there's a tackle or something,

2180
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 4: they may come off the board.

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01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:11,719
Speaker 1: You know, all that stuff.

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01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 4: Like, you start to see the patterns, you start to

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01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 4: see the needs, you start to connect the dots.

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Speaker 1: It's fun, man.

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01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 4: And if you ever spectate the draft that from that viewpoint,

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01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 4: From that vantage point, like you start to notice where

2187
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 4: the picks are landing. You start to notice themes that

2188
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 4: teams are drafting from. You know, maybe they're stockpiling draft

2189
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 4: picks for the future and they're making trades, or maybe

2190
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 4: they're going all defense. Maybe they're building in the trenches

2191
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 4: on the offense and defensive line. It's fascinating to watch.

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01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 2: Well, and this is why we get all these wild

2193
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 2: rumors leading out of the draft. Remember we were sitting

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01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 2: there the day before the draft last year and Will

2195
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 2: Levis was going to be the second pick in the draft.

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01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 3: The Houston Texans are taking Levis.

2197
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: CJ.

2198
01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 3: Stroud's fallid.

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Speaker 2: Forget that Will Anderson, He's fallid, gone even gonna be

2200
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 2: the first edge guy.

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Speaker 3: Then what happens? Houston two to three takes those two guys.

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01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:05,799
Speaker 3: How did that work for them?

2203
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 2: Okay, pretty well, it's working for South Carolina right now.

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01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 2: They got a nine point lead last minute of the

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01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 2: third quarter. Will continue with that coverage of that game

2206
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 2: and the big game tomorrow between Purdue and ukon. This

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01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:22,240
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Harberger, Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 2: We're live from the Tairaq dot Com studios. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: thank our legendary crew today. Moncey of course, phenomenal as always. Yes,

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01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:39,560
Speaker 2: there's Bo, our brilliant producer.

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01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 12: I've been very uncomfortable today.

2212
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 1: Why is that?

2213
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 12: I thought we were done with all the Iowa stuff

2214
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 12: when Sam finally got out of here, But apparently now

2215
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,639
Speaker 12: we got Iowa moncey in here, so oh, is she.

2216
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 2: Just carrying on right now? Ioways in heine by nine.

2217
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,839
Speaker 2: They've been outscored in the last two quarters of forty

2218
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 2: eight to thirty two.

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01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 4: Is she wearing Iowa gear? Because I remember with Sam No,

2220
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 4: it was constant Iowa Hawk guys gear. In fact, I'm

2221
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 4: not sure he and you know the T shirt I'm

2222
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 4: talking about, I'm not sure he washed that thing.

2223
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Speaker 12: I would bet against that.

2224
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2225
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Chris, as a Detroit fan, are you upset by

2226
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:22,640
Speaker 2: all the Iowa hoopla?

2227
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 3: Or does Iowa even register on your sports map? Where's Iowa?

2228
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: Thank you?

2229
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,439
Speaker 3: There you go. It's where my sister's been living for

2230
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 3: over forty years.

2231
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 1: But might as well be a foreign country.

2232
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, And it is an eleven points South Carolina lead,

2233
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 2: and they are making things rather difficult for Caitlin Clark

2234
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 2: in terms of her shooting is concerned. She is four

2235
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 2: or fourteen since the first quarter, so her shooting has

2236
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 2: definitely dropped off. All right, So Rich tomorrow again, we're

2237
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 2: going to have this national championship game between Purdue and Yukon.

2238
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm watching this game right now between South Carolina and Iowa.

2239
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 2: I have this eerie feeling that we may see a

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01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 2: similar game play out where you know, maybe Purdue gets

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01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 2: off to a good start, but just the overall depth power.

2242
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 3: Of Yukon will be too much to match up.

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01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 4: I'm all over. I'm all over Yukon on this one.

2244
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,879
Speaker 4: I've been since the jump. I've taken them every single

2245
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 4: round of the tournament, and I haven't been wrong taking

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01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 4: Yukon yet. They're just too dominant, They're too multiple, they're

2247
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 4: too complete. Dan Hurley and look, there's a lot you

2248
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 4: can say about Dan Hurley. He is He's like a

2249
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 4: wrestling heel. If he's on your side, you love him.

2250
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 4: If he is against you, you hate him. He's not

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01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 4: he is not everyone's flavor, you know what I'm saying. Like,

2252
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 4: Dan Hurley is going to ruffle feathers, but one thing

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01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:00,800
Speaker 4: he can do is coach. And the Husk they don't

2254
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 4: look like they can be beaten. They absolutely have not

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01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 4: had an equal in this tournament, and I think Purdue

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Speaker 4: falls to them. And I think on top of that,

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Speaker 4: I'm fairly certain you com will cover well what information

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01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 4: leads me to believe otherwise.

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01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree with you on that By

2260
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 2: the way, we have this bracket challenge here that a

2261
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 2: lot of you listeners have been a part of. We

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01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 2: had thirty two Fox Sports radio personalities and are a

2263
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 2: bracket this year. And you know how bad my brackets

2264
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 2: have been over the years. But I have Yukon winning

2265
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 2: at all. And I'm not the only one, obviously, but

2266
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:45,120
Speaker 2: I have done the math and I will finish top five,

2267
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 2: which is rare, rarefied air for me. I mean, you've

2268
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 2: been eyewitness to some horrific picks over the years, but

2269
01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 2: actually I had five of the elite eightly did fairly well.

2270
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 3: The killer for me was Tennessee.

2271
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 2: I had Yukon beating Tennessee in the championship game, when

2272
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 2: if Tennessee had won, if they had beaten Purdue, I

2273
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 2: could have been right there.

2274
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 3: For that close.

2275
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 2: I feel like all right because I did things a

2276
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 2: little bit differently this year. Every year is a different

2277
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 2: year in terms of my strategy with the bracket. But

2278
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 2: right now I feel pretty good about where I am.

2279
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 3: So maybe next year.

2280
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 2: Fourteen point lead now for South Carolina fourteen points yeah.

2281
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 2: So again, let's get back to the Caitlin Clark goat argument. Yep,

2282
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 2: if this game continues, we got seven and a half

2283
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 2: minutes to go, and I would goes down to defeat

2284
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 2: for the second consecutive year in the national championship game.

2285
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 3: By double digits.

2286
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 2: Let's say, is she eliminated from the goat conversation?

2287
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I said it early in the show,

2288
01:57:56,480 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 4: and I stand by it when in again, this is

2289
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 4: a subjective conversation. Everybody's entitled to their opinion here. But

2290
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 4: in my humble opinion, I don't think she can be

2291
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 4: included in the goat conversation because even though the statistical

2292
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 4: achievements are incredible in the biggest moment of her career,

2293
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 4: and look, these expectations are insanely high.

2294
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 1: And I'm aware of what I'm saying.

2295
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 4: You know, we're talking about somebody who you know, has

2296
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 4: created something from nothing. You know, there wasn't at this

2297
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 4: much interest ever in women's college basketball. And she is

2298
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 4: a force to be reckoned with. But when you stack up.

2299
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 2: Her accomplished whoah, she just hit it three, just hit

2300
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 2: it three, Okay, I mean, well the late is nine

2301
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 2: inside seven. Imagine she just goes on a flurry at

2302
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 2: the end of this game, and now we got to

2303
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 2: steal by Iowa.

2304
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. So this is my point though,

2305
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 1: if she does it.

2306
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 3: She just threw up another thirty footer. Oh she missed.

2307
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, if she does it right, If.

2308
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 3: This oh three not by her, Monsie is jumping up

2309
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 3: and down.

2310
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh hiding, he can take it.

2311
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, fourteen point lead is down to six,

2312
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 3: six and a half minutes to go. Here come the Hawkeyes.

2313
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. It was Gabby Marshall hitting that breeze.

2314
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 3: She has been hitting all over the place.

2315
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 4: Unbelievable in this tournament for Iowa. Yeah, Oh geez man,

2316
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 4: it's unbelievable. If they find a way, Steve, she cements

2317
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 4: her legacy.

2318
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:28,040
Speaker 2: Another miss by South Carolina. Iowa is running hard.

2319
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 3: Now they just stole the ball, all right, so uh okay,

2320
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 3: now we're getting a little action.

2321
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 1: Here, We're getting somewhere here. Yeah. Yeah.

2322
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 3: Bo is just a training that this game ends sooner

2323
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 3: rather than later.

2324
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 4: She cannot fade, you know, the story can't be strong

2325
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 4: start faded in the you know, the middle of the

2326
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 4: game and tried to come back, but couldn't. It has

2327
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 4: to be she was able to come back and topple

2328
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 4: the game Cocks.

2329
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:54,880
Speaker 1: Otherwise.

2330
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 4: Otherwise it's just going to be tough to label her

2331
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 4: the greatest of all time.

2332
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 2: All Right, So this is a real dilemma, Like I

2333
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:03,360
Speaker 2: have places to go, people to see, and I'm like,

2334
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 2: I got to watch this.

2335
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 3: Game to the finish.

2336
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 2: Ire I'm just gonna have to watch this play out

2337
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 2: right now. So six point lead for South Carolina. They're

2338
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 2: at the free throw line. They made one, but this

2339
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 2: is still a game with about six minutes to go

2340
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter here, all right, Richie, Well we

2341
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 2: got a lot of things coming up. So your final

2342
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 2: prediction is take you con tomorrow to cover the spread.

2343
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my advice.

2344
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that one.

2345
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 2: All right, much more if you're if you want to

2346
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 2: know what's happening here in this lady's game, keep it

2347
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 2: right here. All the latest on Fox Sports Radio.