Speaker 1: Tuts do whoa.
Speaker 2: It's time for the Happy half Hour, presented by Southern Star,
Speaker 2: an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers. Here are your hosts,
Speaker 2: Darren Gant and Cassidy Hill.
Speaker 3: A good quarterback can thrive in chaos. A great quarterback
Speaker 3: can slow down time to negate the chaos. There's a
Speaker 3: moment before the ball is snapped, when everything is still.
Speaker 3: That's when the quarterback assesses everything around him, who is where,
Speaker 3: who is rushing? Who is his best matchup. When the
Speaker 3: ball is snapped, twenty two pieces are thrown into the
Speaker 3: air and the passer has a finite amount of time
Speaker 3: to put it back together. Dave Canalys has made a
Speaker 3: career out of helping a quarterback slow down that time,
Speaker 3: put the pieces back together with these and make the
Speaker 3: decision in the quickest window possible. Throughout his career, he's
Speaker 3: analysed film and practices and the best of the best
Speaker 3: in the game to determine if a quarterback can get
Speaker 3: the ball out in two point seven seconds, he has
Speaker 3: the best chance of making the right decision and lowering
Speaker 3: the risk of turnovers. Canalis has now spent this off
Speaker 3: season thus far helping quarterback Bry shan get his throwing
Speaker 3: time down to that two point seven seconds, but of
Speaker 3: course it's easier said than done. In this particular happy
Speaker 3: half hour, we were able to sit down with bry Schan,
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator Brad Izick, and corner JC Horn to discuss
Speaker 3: the philosophy of two point seven, how to adjust the
Speaker 3: receivers to make it viable, and why Deontay Johnson has
Speaker 3: become such an important part of this process for the Panthers.
Speaker 3: Bry Schank has spent this off season working on perfecting
Speaker 3: his throwing time and making it not as much about
Speaker 3: the actual time but the idea of bending time to
Speaker 3: his will. Young spoke about the philosophy of two point seven,
Speaker 3: the importance of working on the scramble drill or second play,
Speaker 3: and how he is molding it all to his game.
Speaker 4: A couple of.
Speaker 3: Weeks ago, you and I were talking and you said
Speaker 3: that the two point seven time thing, to you, is
Speaker 3: more of a philosophy than like a set time. What
Speaker 3: is the philosophy?
Speaker 5: It's just being as efficient as we can through our reads,
Speaker 5: and then kind of knowing what reads or stuff that
Speaker 5: we should be able to get through realistically, and what
Speaker 5: reads are like you know, are kind of bonus stuff.
Speaker 5: And then knowing once you get to that point, and
Speaker 5: plus you know you're probably gonna you know, expecting movement again.
Speaker 5: You know, I have all the utmost faith in my
Speaker 5: line and uh, you know, and and and protection up front,
Speaker 5: but you know, it's the NFL, and there's people that
Speaker 5: pay a lot of money on the other side, so
Speaker 5: make their jobs hard.
Speaker 6: So you know, again being realistic.
Speaker 5: We talked about two point seven, you know, being realistic,
Speaker 5: knowing what we should be able to get through, what
Speaker 5: we should be able to anticipate their being movement and
Speaker 5: things starting to break down, and then knowing you know,
Speaker 5: when we get into that time period, it's kind of
Speaker 5: on us. You know, we gotta We're gonna have to
Speaker 5: extend something, We're gonna have to uh make something, have
Speaker 5: to get there, and then if we get don't get
Speaker 5: through there escaping and start the second play with that.
Speaker 3: Uh. The second place specifically is that like think, okay,
Speaker 3: it makes sense, but I wanna hear it from your
Speaker 3: point of view, Like this play is done, let's start
Speaker 3: the second one of this scramble is that the is
Speaker 3: that that internal clock going golf? Is that just seeing
Speaker 3: what's the very what's not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of a mix of little mix of both.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: Again, most of the time it's just so it it
Speaker 5: internal clock and then again through concept you can if
Speaker 5: you've got five reads or you know you got four
Speaker 5: because you know, the bat guy taking up a protection
Speaker 5: and you get through four, you know a lot of concepts.
Speaker 5: You know, you're gonna know the concepts that if you
Speaker 5: get through four and they're not stuff that's gonna stay
Speaker 5: on the move or you know is whatever it is,
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to uh, you know you're gonna have
Speaker 5: to extending.
Speaker 6: You know, from a.
Speaker 5: Defensive standpoint, you know, you gotta guard four to five
Speaker 5: shits of routes and then you know when you move.
Speaker 5: You know, our receivers do a great job during scrambled
Speaker 5: jail of seeing that breaking off their route and then
Speaker 5: coming at a different angle.
Speaker 6: And you know, for the DBS, you know, it's like
Speaker 6: you gotta.
Speaker 5: Guard a route and then now all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: you thinking about guarding one route. Immediately they you know,
Speaker 5: they you know, a receiver and scrambledill is gonna like
Speaker 5: break off to a different area.
Speaker 6: So it's kind of why we say the second play
Speaker 6: for them.
Speaker 5: It's like running a second route kind of starts a
Speaker 5: second mind everything resets for DB's receivers us.
Speaker 6: So that's kind of the mindset for.
Speaker 3: Dave said yesterday that Deontae has been the best at
Speaker 3: that through camp.
Speaker 4: Like on the receiver end.
Speaker 3: Why is he so good at it and why does
Speaker 3: it work for the.
Speaker 1: Two of y'all?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: I think j just has a great natural feel, uh,
Speaker 5: really good body control. It's great just to you know,
Speaker 5: he could be running full speed one way and and
Speaker 5: stop on a diamond get back the other way, uh
Speaker 5: from that route. So it just has a great instinct
Speaker 5: for a great feel. Again, I've i've uh all the
Speaker 5: faith in the world on all the other receivers as well,
Speaker 5: But you know, it's just someone who I he's been
Speaker 5: been playing for a while, has a great feel for
Speaker 5: that stuff. So for everyone, we're just kind of trying
Speaker 5: to continue to build on that.
Speaker 3: It seems like maybe maybe it's Patrick Holmes, maybe it's whoever.
Speaker 3: Like that scramble stuff has become so like people like
Speaker 3: to see it as a highlight, But can you compete
Speaker 3: in the NFL without the deep ball?
Speaker 5: You know, I think really it's again I I I
Speaker 5: think for for for us, we wanna be as as
Speaker 5: balanced as possible. You know, Uh, I think it every
Speaker 5: you know, every play is is different.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: For us, we part ourselve on being able to take
Speaker 5: all the defense gives us. You know, we wanna establish
Speaker 5: the run, put off that run. But you know, obviously
Speaker 5: we're we're gonna, uh look to push the ball down
Speaker 5: the field when the opportunity presents itself. So you know,
Speaker 5: I think for us, it's it's you know, trying to
Speaker 5: create a as efficient of an operation as possible.
Speaker 3: The efficient operation kind of just going back to the
Speaker 3: timing part of it. Da've mentioned that's so much when
Speaker 3: he first got here, whether it's a philosophy, whether it's
Speaker 3: a a p horn going off in your head or
Speaker 3: around you, can you really change that if you've been
Speaker 3: playing quarterback.
Speaker 6: A certain way the whole time, Uh yeah, your whole life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I I think that you know, obviously
Speaker 5: you you haven't turned arounds from some experience with stuff,
Speaker 5: but uh, for me, for us, you know, it's all
Speaker 5: about buying into to the system, and you know you're
Speaker 5: always making little changes, little nuances. You know, we've all
Speaker 5: had been in different backgrounds, have different backgrounds, different systems,
Speaker 5: different coaches. So you know, I think as athletes, we're
Speaker 5: used to switching little things up. You know, there's always
Speaker 5: gonna be that core player of who we all are,
Speaker 5: and there's certain stuff that I you know, you're gonna
Speaker 5: keep the you know, it's just gonna be you.
Speaker 6: But it's just finding a ways to be you within
Speaker 6: the system. And I think.
Speaker 5: Coach and Awas is a great job of talking about
Speaker 5: that is you know, he he doesn't want guys to
Speaker 5: just come in and be robots and come in and
Speaker 5: just be x's and o's on a on a paper
Speaker 5: on a you know, a piece of paper. He wants
Speaker 5: us to be ourselves just you know, find our the
Speaker 5: ways to be ourselves within the system.
Speaker 6: And I think we're all kind of working towards that.
Speaker 3: Just wrapping up, speaking of being yourself, I know Austin
Speaker 3: having a baby on Saturday was probably part of this
Speaker 3: reason for not going under center. But what part of
Speaker 3: your game can be unlocked in the shot in the pistol?
Speaker 6: You know, for me, I I I pride.
Speaker 5: Myself in you know, being able to you know, whether
Speaker 5: it's from undergun pistol, whatever it is, just you know,
Speaker 5: being able to be efficient in all three and whatever
Speaker 5: is necessary. And you know, for the coaches, I wanna
Speaker 5: make sure that whatever they feel like, uh from a
Speaker 5: schematic standpoint, gives us the best opportunity. I'm able to
Speaker 5: you know, I'm able to operate at at the same level.
Speaker 5: So again, I us coaches and whatever it may be.
Speaker 5: You know, I feel comfortable wherever uh they asked me
Speaker 5: to be, so uh yeah, again, I think they're gonna
Speaker 5: do a great job of balancing, you know, all those
Speaker 5: different formations and what gives us.
Speaker 3: The best show played in the SEC, which obviously has
Speaker 3: like some of the biggest and fastest. But your first
Speaker 3: year in the NFL, did it surprise you or did
Speaker 3: you notice a difference when you're like reading the pass
Speaker 3: rushers how much faster they might have been or or
Speaker 3: were they.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I think it was just uh, I think
Speaker 5: one of the biggest things that you know, obviously, you know,
Speaker 5: rookie year whatever, everyone asked, oh, what's the difference, what
Speaker 5: was the biggest ever? And for me, I think it
Speaker 5: was just it's just a lot of really good players.
Speaker 5: I think that you see, you know, you you go up,
Speaker 5: growing up, you see a lot of good plays. But
Speaker 5: I think it's just at this level you see so
Speaker 5: many good players and so many good plays get made
Speaker 5: on a consistent basis. I think it was just you know,
Speaker 5: in college of plays that you get to see made
Speaker 5: four or five times a game, you're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 5: that was you see that, you know, on every play
Speaker 5: from both sides of the wall. So for me, I
Speaker 5: think it was just again, he's the best players in
Speaker 5: the world, people that have been playing for a long time.
Speaker 5: In some people's cases, you know, are are you know,
Speaker 5: going up against the best every single day.
Speaker 6: So you know, for me, it's it's I really enjoy it.
Speaker 6: I enjoy the challenge.
Speaker 5: It's it's great for me as well, just having to
Speaker 5: be my best knowing that everyone else is being their best.
Speaker 6: So, you know, I feel like that was really the biggest.
Speaker 3: Thing Brad is it because in his first season as
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator and with a background as a wide receivers coach,
Speaker 3: he brings a unique perspective to the pass catching unit
Speaker 3: and has spent this off season helping them shape their
Speaker 3: game to this idea of a second play, creating their
Speaker 3: own internal clock that is intrinsically tied to Young's price
Speaker 3: has kind of been talking about like finding the second play,
Speaker 3: and like, especially on scrambles, you know when that clock,
Speaker 3: which I'm guessing is around two point seven or three seconds,
Speaker 3: goes off to find a second play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot of us.
Speaker 3: Just think of it as like, oh, that's a that's
Speaker 3: a scramble drill, Like they're just kind of it's a
Speaker 3: sand light out there that But how much of that
Speaker 3: is still like within a script if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's that one.
Speaker 6: There's rules to it, and it's all about just field.
Speaker 4: Displacement and like where God finds himself You'd say he's
Speaker 4: either scrambling left or scrambling right. Okay, where do you
Speaker 4: find yourself? Where's the open space? We need to you know,
Speaker 4: occupy that vacant space. And then the second piece when
Speaker 4: we work it, we preach it to our guys camp
Speaker 4: is ball finds energy. So it's it's for the guys
Speaker 4: who are running routes and a scramble occurs or you know,
Speaker 4: the second play occurs.
Speaker 6: It's all about that first initial movement.
Speaker 4: Like a corner feels like a concept developing a safety
Speaker 4: is attaching to a concept.
Speaker 6: And then a violent over a different direction.
Speaker 4: It just explodes all of their rules. It destroys all
Speaker 4: their feel for what's going on. It's not I don't
Speaker 4: want to say it's not normal football anymore, because it is.
Speaker 4: It's still the second play, but that first initial movement,
Speaker 4: no matter where you are on the field, it now
Speaker 4: disintegrates and puts them in some sort of chaos on
Speaker 4: defense where they're now just trying to Oh gosh, it's
Speaker 4: like fight or flight. It's like I gotta go, And
Speaker 4: we got to initiate that with our first you know,
Speaker 4: violent movement to the scramble, like violent movement shutting down
Speaker 4: a route because I'm in space or whatever it is
Speaker 4: wherever you find yourself.
Speaker 6: So we do rule up like finding vacant space.
Speaker 4: We do the concepts together that try to help place
Speaker 4: us in those positions to occupy space. But then also
Speaker 4: that first initial movement is so important, and it's hard
Speaker 4: for guys to wrap their head around because they're focused
Speaker 4: on executing the first play. Okay, every now and again,
Speaker 4: you gotta sprinkle in, Hey, first play is done, who's
Speaker 4: gonna show me that They're gonna consistently show us that
Speaker 4: first violent.
Speaker 3: Movement is that thinking like, okay, the first play is done.
Speaker 3: Now it's time to make that move. Is that something
Speaker 3: that you want the receivers or whoever's like could be
Speaker 3: a pass catcher on that play? Is that something you
Speaker 3: want them watching price to take their clue from. Or
Speaker 3: do they have sort of a clock in their head
Speaker 3: as well?
Speaker 4: It's there's a clock in their head too, and that
Speaker 4: goes with the first concept too. They the reason you
Speaker 4: rep things so many times is you can get so
Speaker 4: many different looks from the defense that you need to
Speaker 4: rep all these plays against all those different looks, and
Speaker 4: you need to building a time clock in your head
Speaker 4: of oh, this is not this is not normal, right,
Speaker 4: this is this is an extension of the play been
Speaker 4: too long? And that's when we want their antennas and
Speaker 4: their muscle memory's to think, I gotta go, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? This the first one's over. I gotta go,
Speaker 4: And where can I stick my foot in the ground
Speaker 4: and get open in this new vacant space for our quarterback?
Speaker 3: Is the making the explosive part of it? Is that
Speaker 3: why Deonta is so good at it?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's so good at setting guys up and
Speaker 4: he's got such great lateral quickness that he's gotten no problem.
Speaker 6: It comes so natural for him.
Speaker 4: It came up on that first drive. His catch was
Speaker 4: a perfect example of it. It actually came up a
Speaker 4: couple other times in that drive. You didn't get the ball,
Speaker 4: but you see the one that Bryce threw away too.
Speaker 4: You can see Deontay continuing to work for him in the.
Speaker 6: Back the back of the end zone there.
Speaker 4: So he has that naturally, and a lot of that
Speaker 4: is attributed to his you know, his reps of puts
Speaker 4: in the ground. I'm gone, I'm the hugest thing alive.
Speaker 4: He's gotten a lot of catches this offseason from it.
Speaker 4: But he's also got a lot of experience with Ben Roethlisberger,
Speaker 4: who extended a ton of plays in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6: I told him yesterday I went back and watched.
Speaker 4: Explosive plays from him from the last three years and
Speaker 4: so many like I think it's whatever Ben's last year
Speaker 4: was three years ago.
Speaker 3: Like twenty twenty maybe, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 4: Was there was still some clips on there. So whatever
Speaker 4: years I used, it included ends last year. There's so
Speaker 4: many of those, like extension of the play, and Ben's
Speaker 4: looking for him. So if you consistently are the guy
Speaker 4: who's putting your foot in the ground and continuing to work,
Speaker 4: the quarterback naturally is like, that's my guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, where's Dante, that's my guy?
Speaker 4: Where's Adam?
Speaker 6: You know, where's Mingo? Where's Tommy? Where's the back? Like?
Speaker 4: Who whoever? Does it well? And the goal is to
Speaker 4: have five guys doing it well, so it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: who it is. It's just, oh, okay, where's my space?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I know a guy's gonna be working for me. So
Speaker 4: we've worked it in the off season. It's hard to
Speaker 4: get into their head because it's not like you want
Speaker 4: to execute the first play right, but you also want
Speaker 4: to build in the mess of memory of them everybody
Speaker 4: working and working to space so we're not crowding you know,
Speaker 4: certain areas for Bryce.
Speaker 6: But Bryce has done a great job.
Speaker 4: Too of owning, Hey, when a play breaks down, it's
Speaker 4: not perfect in practice, initiate the second play. It's a
Speaker 4: great opportunity. Even if you get a clean shoulda beyond
Speaker 4: off the edge. He sacked you and practiced, they're not
Speaker 4: going to touch you. Initiate the second play. Let your
Speaker 4: other guys start working for you. Working these different levels
Speaker 4: of the scramble drill.
Speaker 6: Of the second play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what does this all mean for a defense?
Speaker 3: We talked to Eugene Robinson earlier in the summer about
Speaker 3: this topic, but J. C. Horn was able to provide
Speaker 3: some boots on the ground insight as to how Young's
Speaker 3: game has been shaped, what Johnson is bringing. And while
Speaker 3: the second play really does blow everything up, since Canalis
Speaker 3: has gotten here, he's kind of pushed Bryce to get
Speaker 3: his throwing time down, and that like implements itself into
Speaker 3: more scramble drills. So be it just from what you've
Speaker 3: seen in practice, like has that throwing time lessoned?
Speaker 7: First of all, I think it's throwing time. He didn't
Speaker 7: got better with him, you know, just going throughout camp.
Speaker 7: I remember the person the first couple of practices and
Speaker 7: when I noticed you, like he was throwing it before
Speaker 7: they got out of the breaks, Like even if we
Speaker 7: got it like today, he threw it out out of
Speaker 7: tay And I just wrote, like down there and the
Speaker 7: Paul its just soon as you gotta break it was
Speaker 7: just right there. So when you have no time to
Speaker 7: make it, play on it.
Speaker 1: But I think Brightman doing a good.
Speaker 7: Job at this time and just you know, getting the
Speaker 7: reps down with Tabe, with Thilan and Mingo X and
Speaker 7: uh they finding they they find it, they rules. So
Speaker 7: you know, I definitely think you're doing a good job
Speaker 7: with it.
Speaker 3: When Morey one of the other things they've taught him
Speaker 3: is like, if you get to two point seven, se
Speaker 3: if you get to three seconds in that place, not there,
Speaker 3: go to the second place. M Yeah, And that's the
Speaker 3: scramble from a D defensive back to point of view,
Speaker 3: how much harder or is it easier? I don't know,
Speaker 3: is is it harder or easier to defend a scramble?
Speaker 5: Drill?
Speaker 6: What's it look like from you where they took me?
Speaker 6: Where they took it?
Speaker 7: Cause uh, J if you just look at guys like
Speaker 7: Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, you know Lamar, some of the
Speaker 7: guys that's like the best in the league with scrambling.
Speaker 7: They're sending plays, you know they offense is offenses tend
Speaker 7: to do better just because you gotta cover a guy
Speaker 7: twice as a diffusing that. So it's always tough and
Speaker 7: you gotta have good eyes, you gotta it's just basically
Speaker 7: like a cat mouse, like you just chasing cause of
Speaker 7: quarterback and the receivers though it's.
Speaker 6: No play for them.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they just running around trying to get over.
Speaker 6: So it's DV.
Speaker 7: You're not really reading formation or reading tendencies. They just
Speaker 7: running trying to get over and you just chasing him.
Speaker 6: Just the best at it that you re faced.
Speaker 1: Quarterback, You saying that I face Uh probably lamar yeah,
Speaker 1: lamar uh, pretty good at it. I think Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: real good.
Speaker 7: And it's sitting in plays and you know, making throws
Speaker 7: a different type of throws from different English. And I
Speaker 7: think Pat Mahomes obviously the best in the league at it,
Speaker 7: and we see him the shares.
Speaker 6: That'll be fun.
Speaker 7: But yeah, there's a couple of good guys then that's
Speaker 7: real good at it.
Speaker 3: And then from a panther's point of view, it's they've
Speaker 3: talked about like Deontay being so good at when Bryce
Speaker 3: needs to break and kind of scramble, you cover him
Speaker 3: a lot. Why is he so good at it?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 7: Just uh, Deontay got a special way of just getting
Speaker 7: out of breaks fast, also very acceptive, and he be
Speaker 7: looking like he like bys and almost and then just
Speaker 7: cutting break take off on you. So I think that's
Speaker 7: what made beyontay Rill do with scramble drill like his
Speaker 7: in and out getting in and out of it races?
Speaker 6: I think he wanted investing.
Speaker 7: Where to get at cools, ma, ma'am, no problem.
Speaker 3: Thank you to all three guys for their time and insight.
Speaker 3: Over the next few weeks, The Happy half Hour in
Speaker 3: Panthers dot Com will wrap up our dive into every
Speaker 3: facet of this idea of two point seven seconds. And
Speaker 3: if you haven't already, make sure to listen to our
Speaker 3: first two episodes in this series with former Panthers quarterback
Speaker 3: Jake Delane and former safety Eugene Robinson. Stay tuned to
Speaker 3: Panthers dot Com and The Happy half Hour for more
Speaker 3: as we strive to understand what it takes to slow
Speaker 3: down time