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Speaker 2: Hey, Professional Homegirls. Is Shagara Ebine here and I hope

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Speaker 2: all is cute. Before we get into today's episode, we've

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Speaker 2: Five years of powerful voices, unforgivable moments in a community.

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Speaker 3: Now let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I am super excited about this week's episode

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Speaker 2: as I sit down with David Joyner, the man behind

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Speaker 2: the iconic Purple Dinosaur that we all love Barney from

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one to two thousand and one, David and

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Speaker 2: I dive into the cultural impact of the show, the

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Speaker 2: joy it brought to millions of children, including myself, and

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Speaker 2: us about love. David also opens up about his personal journey,

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Speaker 2: how he went from bringing Barney to life on screen

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Speaker 2: to embracing a new path as a Tantric practitioner. Together,

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Speaker 2: David and I, we explore the behind the scenes stories,

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Speaker 2: the spiritual practices that guide him today, and how both

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Speaker 2: So get ready, because the man behind Barney park One

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Speaker 2: starts now. All right, to my guests, David Joiner, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for being on the show, My pleasure.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling.

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: I am feeling fan Tantric, as I always say.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right on brand.

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Speaker 2: I was telling him earlier y'all that I am just

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Speaker 2: like so fascinated with him and everybody in the Barny universe.

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much for taking the time out

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Speaker 2: to speak with me today.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm excited. Now. What would you say?

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Speaker 2: It's like the biggest misconception about you, because I feel

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Speaker 2: like people are always kind of like on a little

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Speaker 4: You know, It's funny because I'm such a and I

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Speaker 4: don't want to toot my own horn.

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Speaker 3: You can tute it.

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Speaker 4: I'm such a positive, loving, spiritual guy that sometimes with

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Speaker 4: my Dantra healing business, some people misinterpret that. And a

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Speaker 4: lot of it has to do with lack of education

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Speaker 4: or lack of really understanding who I am. Because even

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Speaker 4: as a sixty year old, sixty two year old black man,

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Speaker 4: David You's sixty two, sixty two, Oh you know, I

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Speaker 4: practiced contra, which is all about energy and healing. Again.

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Speaker 4: But even as a sixty two year old black man,

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Speaker 4: sometimes people see me and they they think about Barney

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Speaker 4: or they don't know about Barney, and when I share

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Speaker 4: I'm like and I always say google Bernie black Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's so crazy.

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Speaker 2: I'm jumping ahead, But I remember watching Barney and when

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Speaker 2: I was a little kid, I'm like, Barney was black.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what dance move you did. I was like,

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Speaker 2: telling my friends because I'm like super excited about this conversation.

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Speaker 3: And they agreed. They was like, yeah, you did some move,

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Speaker 3: Have anybody else ever told you that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that sometimes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, some people like I knew it, I knew it,

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Speaker 5: but you know, then some people who really I mean,

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Speaker 4: That was ninety two People's magazine, and I was in

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Speaker 3: So what was your childhood like? Like, what was little

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Speaker 4: You know, I tell people all the time that even

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Speaker 4: I grew up in a very very loving household. There

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Speaker 4: But we were raised that there was no stepbrother, no

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Speaker 4: he truly taught us what it meant to love unconditionally.

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Speaker 4: And my dad's mother, Mama Girt. Mama Girt always told

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Speaker 4: and say, I love you. So you're walking outside with

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Speaker 4: And I was always entertaining, always being silly, always goofy,

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Speaker 4: A lot of times I would call my dad or

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Speaker 4: you know, like I was a bill collector. I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: This is met Peter Thompson with the Decatur of Power

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Speaker 6: and Light Company, and you just haven't paid your bill

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Speaker 3: I know they used to be stressed dealing with you.

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Speaker 6: Be like, Dad, can you pick us up from practice?

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Speaker 3: So who would you say? Was your barney? Was it

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Speaker 4: Your dad?

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Speaker 3: Or your grandma my barney? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh oh can I say all three?

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Speaker 2: You can, because I think that's like just sharing those

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And even on my father's side of the family,

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Speaker 4: and I just start speaking, and I'd let them know

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Speaker 4: sometimes they wouldn't even reveal what's happening in their situation,

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Speaker 4: didn't want to hang around Mama girt. They're like, Mama girt,

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Speaker 4: I was dating, my relationships, different situations. And my mom

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Speaker 4: And even with their cooking, I would do my homework

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Speaker 4: soul food is the food of love. My mom has

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Speaker 4: even as today a lot of people are like, man,

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Speaker 4: one of my one of my famous desserts is pair pie.

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Speaker 2: Oh I've never had that before, David, you.

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Speaker 4: And pear pie. You know. It's just a substitute of

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Speaker 4: I like to cook chicken here. Now, I do a

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Speaker 4: lot of boneless, skinless, but sometimes when I do the wings,

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Speaker 3: You got kids, David, No kids? You ain't got kids?

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Speaker 4: No kids? Oh wow, that's another story. Yeah, as a

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Speaker 4: matter of fact. As a matter of fact, when I

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Speaker 4: kids out of wedlock. So I started auditioning women.

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Speaker 3: It what happened, what's the tea?

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Speaker 4: I started auditioning women to be who would who would

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Speaker 4: skin complexion, active, beautiful body. Yeah. And then I got

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Speaker 4: married and then I found out later on that I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and not that that ended the marriage, but there's

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Speaker 4: some other circumstances too. But I was like, Okay, God,

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Speaker 3: DONI wow?

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Speaker 2: Because I know women would throwing them sales at you

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Speaker 2: just to show their appreciation for what you do mean

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Speaker 2: to their kids.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're about to get into it. How many women

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Speaker 4: Well, you gotta remember too, I was a healer. I

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Speaker 4: I was introduced to TNTRA. And when I was introduced

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Speaker 4: learning energy from circuit boards and different components and sisters

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Speaker 4: you know how that board work. Same thing when I

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Speaker 4: to radiate that energy. And also growing up knowing I

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Speaker 4: had a gift of healing and I love giving massages.

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Speaker 4: A lot of time. It's like, let me give you

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Speaker 4: would feel different because you would feel that love and

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Speaker 4: you'd feel that beauty and that that that safe space

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Speaker 4: because my thing was always I wanted people to feel

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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? Issue your m and a here, and

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel at the Professional home Girl. Now let's get

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Speaker 2: back to the show.

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Speaker 3: I know your wife wasn't okay with you doing these massages.

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Speaker 4: Well I wasn't doing it when I when I got married. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I kind of kind of transitioned off and I didn't

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Speaker 4: And you know I married a Puerto Rican woman, so

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Speaker 4: she wasn't going I didn't get the memo on Puerto

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she wasn't going for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. There's a lot of things she wasn't going for, right,

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Speaker 4: but one of them was me. I was like, wait

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Speaker 4: a minute, God, you mean I gave up all these women.

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Speaker 4: I was doing all this stuff right, and the women

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Speaker 2: But I feel like, in a sense, because of your

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Speaker 2: your role in Barney as well.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: What a lot of people when they when they hear tantra,

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Speaker 4: you know, they always think it's about sex. I think

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Speaker 4: there's there's different types of tntra. Right when I just

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Speaker 4: described it is considered red tntra. The one I truly

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Speaker 4: gravitated toward and what I practice even today is white

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Speaker 4: lotus mantra. There's also black contra where people use sexual

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Speaker 4: White Lotus tantra, it's all about white light, love, the universe,

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Speaker 4: lot of times they tell us to ground ourselves by

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Speaker 4: Our body is filled with electricity. There's current flowing through

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Speaker 4: the energy that's harmonizing in the universe. The energy within

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Speaker 4: the universe is love. So now you're operating on a

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Speaker 4: So the foundation is love. The energy around you is love,

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Speaker 4: Your sexual energy is the energy of creation. That's the

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Speaker 4: you that also can cause creation. From a male's point

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're in the masterclass right now, I

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Speaker 4: From a male's point of view, when you honor goddess energy,

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Speaker 4: feminine energy, you're literally honoring the energy of creation. Right.

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Speaker 4: Divine has given you the ability and the responsibility to

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Speaker 4: developing in your womb for nine months it's not just physical,

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Speaker 4: it's also spiritual. Right when that energy is now released

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Speaker 4: A lot of times you hear mothers knowing that something's

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Speaker 4: understand that well. The transference of energy. Like I said,

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Speaker 4: in electronics, you have certain components that you can't allow

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Speaker 4: Our energy was with purpose. Now knowing all of that,

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Speaker 4: I'm like that was me. Man, I was just flowing

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Speaker 4: And like earlier when I was saying I was sixty two,

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Speaker 2: That's what's missing from children programming now? Because I feel

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Speaker 2: like everything that you just explained, like it was intentional,

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Speaker 2: Like you have a ritual, you meditate, you pray, you

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the values in children programming today?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I would say yes to no because

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Speaker 4: even what I was doing that wasn't necessarily happening with

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Speaker 4: I wanted to radiate that energy with my role, my

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Speaker 4: the production company, the environment of the show itself. Everyone,

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Speaker 4: we all knew that we were doing something very special

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Speaker 4: to be able to give you an honest answer about

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Speaker 4: children's programming today. One of the other things too, is

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Speaker 4: and with Barney, Yes, Bernie made a lot of money

436
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: and a lot of times shows came up it's like, hey,

437
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 4: we're going to do this to make the money and

438
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: not necessarily do it for the value you really teaching

439
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 4: and helping kids with their cognitive skills, their learning skills,

440
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 4: their emotional skills. They're just out there to put a

441
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: product out there on the show.

442
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: And you can tell yeah.

443
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: And a lot of kids they don't know, and the

444
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 4: parents are like, hey, let me put this in front

445
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: of my child so I can go do my thing.

446
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: So this child is just watching this thing, and you

447
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: know children, when they watch things repetitively, you know, then

448
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: it's like, hey, I want to see that again. Yes,

449
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: So that's what I loved about being Barnie. And then

450
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 4: to be totally honest with you, after I left the

451
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: show after doing it for ten years, and the guy

452
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: that took my place to do the television series, he

453
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 4: was doing the stage tour for a long time, and

454
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: I personally didn't think he was right for the television role.

455
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 4: And as you're doing a stage show, you're doing the

456
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: same performance night after night after night. The children and

457
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 4: the audience, they're not truly focused on you. They've got

458
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: the stage, they've got the sets, they've got other characters.

459
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: I guess a lot trying to pay attention to.

460
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: You've got your siblings, you're eating, you got your parents,

461
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 4: you got other kids in the audience. And what I

462
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: told him, I said, you have to radiate that energy

463
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: through that constume and through that camera because you want

464
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: that child at home doing this. Yeah, you want them

465
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: glued in to you and glued in because they're feeling

466
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 4: this loving vibration, this loving energy. But of course he

467
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: wasn't able to do that, and so whenever I would

468
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: watch the show to try to take notes or even

469
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: try to offer some advice. After a while, it just

470
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: got to the point where he's not listening. Yeah, then

471
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: you're watching it and it's like, oh.

472
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like once you left, Once Bob left,

473
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: obviously when Shryl stupp down, which we'll talk about, or

474
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: when she left, I feel like everything's just changed.

475
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it changed, and it didn't necessarily have that principal value. Yeah,

476
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: we all love to. Plus, the company was sold to

477
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 4: Hit Entertainment, and Hit Entertainment was a conglomerate that had

478
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: other shows. When we had Barney with the Lions Group

479
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: and Lyrics Studios, Barney was the main focus. Yeah, we

480
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 4: went in the building, everybody knew it was all about Barney.

481
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a time.

482
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: But another interesting fact about you was you were one

483
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: of the engineers behind the Texas calculators.

484
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 7: Well well, well, a lot of people when they hear

485
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 7: Texas instruments, they think calculators, right, Texas Instruments did a

486
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 7: whole lot more.

487
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: Than just got true true true.

488
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: And I worked in an area that we had a

489
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 4: contract with the Navy and we designed infrared circuit boards

490
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: for the infrared devices arms missiles, and I was a

491
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: software analyst there. We worked in an area called the

492
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: readact division where designed the circuit boards and then by

493
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: designing the circuit boards, you would give that information to

494
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: the facility that would then manufacture the boards manually. And

495
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: my role was as a software analyst sometimes to come

496
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: up with different ways because we had different facilities making

497
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: these different boards and making them on different systems. We're

498
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 4: pushing all that energy to the place that's now manufacturing

499
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 4: the board, so sometimes that data coming to that facility,

500
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 4: that data is a little different and it's challenging. So

501
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: what I would come up with ideas to marry that energy,

502
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: I mean marry that data. I'm always about energy data

503
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: together so then that board can be manufactured and the

504
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: people that are manufacturing they don't have to try to think.

505
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: They could just manufacture and then that data isn't put

506
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: into the system, and then if something went wrong, I

507
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: was the one who was in charge of troublestreating trying

508
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: to find out if it was through manufacturing, through design

509
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: in the field, through the engineering, so I would have

510
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: to investigate. Sometimes it was a lot more than just calculators,

511
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: and even with that, I would use my entertainment skills.

512
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: I was recruited by Texas Instruments and they asked, you know,

513
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: what's your long term goal. I said, I want to

514
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: work here at least five years and then quit to

515
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: pursue entertainment full time. Of course, they laughed at me,

516
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 4: and look, I'm also performing. I would stand in the

517
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: store windows as a mannequin on the weekends, mister Entertainment,

518
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: davidy Joiner, the mannequin man, and I'm standing in the

519
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: windows and people would literally bring their kids, set their

520
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: kids on them all floor and then go shop. I

521
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: was also performing at certain nightclubs, dancing, singing.

522
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: I know you was outside, David, I know he was out.

523
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: And sometimes, you know, even when when at Texas Instruments,

524
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: when I'm trying to, you know, investigate, and a lot

525
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: of times people didn't want to, uh, they didn't want

526
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: to be at fault, and so I tried to call

527
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: and they wouldn't give me information. Then I'd call back, Hi,

528
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: my name is Susie and I work with the Blah

529
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: blah blah division.

530
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: And I just want to know.

531
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: It's just something simple about the board. I don't understand

532
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: why the board malfunction, and you know, people would give

533
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: up the goods because they didn't think it was me, right,

534
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: And you know, I called back again and I described

535
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 4: my voice and say that, you know, I'm trying to

536
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: travelish you this board here and I'm not sure exactly

537
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: what happened. Could you just explain on the bond, you know,

538
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: what you feel happened, and people and then I would

539
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: use it. We'd be show up in a meeting and

540
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: and you have to give you introductions on David Joiner

541
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 4: and people be like, you're a David Joiner.

542
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: What are you coming out with your book? Because you

543
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: have you have a lot of lives that you have live.

544
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: I get that question all the time too. I am

545
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: the book.

546
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we need a physical copy that we can

547
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: have all over the world.

548
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, have you thought about it? Oh yeah, I'm

549
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: actually making book notes right now.

550
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: Okay, but as a matter of.

551
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: Fact, I could go through my book notes right now

552
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: drop some nuggets on. You're going to be like, what what?

553
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: Let me just give you an example here. We got

554
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: an exclusive this one. This is a lot of times

555
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: things come to me. I get channeled, right, and this

556
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: is talking about what I do Contra. I practice and

557
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: honor the modality of white lotus TNTRA. My healing sessions

558
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: are also based on white lotus TNTRA. It's all about

559
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: connecting your divine spiritual energy with your sacred sexual energy,

560
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: allowing that amazing energy to rise freely as you offer

561
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 4: it up to Father God, and by honoring Mother Earth

562
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: with lots of loving gratitude for allowing us to navigate

563
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: on her plane, connecting the divine trinity within spirit, mind,

564
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: and body. The way you honor your sexual energy determines

565
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: what type of soil you're planting your star seed in.

566
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: Know your true value, your true worth, and keep shining

567
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 4: your divine light. You are a beautiful goddess filled with

568
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 4: God's divine light. Don't ever let anyone cause you to

569
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 4: feel anything less. Own your goddess power, Own your goddess energy,

570
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 4: Own your goddess sacred space. Kindness is like a merry

571
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 4: go round. Don't get off before the kindness comes back

572
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: to you.

573
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: M Ay, that was a good one. That that was

574
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: a good one. I'm have to borrow that one.

575
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: Always remember we cannot clean our bowels without taking a ship.

576
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes in life we're taught to take a ship so

577
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 4: that we can clean our bowels, wipe, flush, get off

578
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 4: the pot, wash your hands, and then happily leave the room.

579
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I need an autograph copy for sure.

580
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: I tell my clients sometimes because I work with a

581
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 4: lot of women that are in paths and gifts and

582
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: they pick up on other people's energy, and I tell

583
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 4: them all the time. Do the throne meditation. You're sitting

584
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 4: on the throne and you're releasing the waste from your body.

585
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: Ask the creator to the waste from your spirit. Start repeating,

586
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: I released the way, release the waste from my spirit,

587
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: as I released the waste from my body. Release the

588
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: waste from my spirit as.

589
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: I released the waste from my body.

590
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 4: Release the waste from my spirit as I released the

591
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: waste from my body. And you just start releasing things

592
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: that don't belong to you. You know.

593
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: I feel like you've always been like very spiritual. Can

594
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 2: you tell us about the dream you had when God

595
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: was giving you signs on how you knew this role

596
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: was for you.

597
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. When the casting director Shirley Abrams wanted to me

598
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: auditioned for Barney, I initially said no, Why did you

599
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 4: say no. Well, I didn't want to be in a costume.

600
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: I wanted to be seen, you know. And I had

601
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: never done anything like it before. And at the time,

602
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: I was working at an acting school, the Young Actor Studio,

603
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: And because when I told Texas Instruments, I was going

604
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: to be there at least five years, and then quick

605
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: well that six the fifth year came around, I wasn't ready.

606
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 4: So I stayed six and even in that where they

607
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 4: were about to have a major layoff. I'll come back

608
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: to the story of a second. They're about to have

609
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: a major layoff, and I knew somebody in my area

610
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: was going to get laid off because of seniority, and

611
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 4: so I went to my supervisor and I asked if

612
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: you would put me on the severance package, because they

613
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 4: were trying to get people to do a severance package

614
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: to retire early. And I know I'm going to leave

615
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: this year. I don't know when, but I wouldn't want

616
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: someone to lose their job and then I'm gone, and

617
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: then that person hasn't already left the job, and now

618
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: you got to hire somebody else, right, And so he

619
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: came back to me, he says, I can't put you

620
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: on the severance package, and I said okay. So I

621
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 4: went to my desk. I pulled up my calendar. I

622
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 4: had all twelve months in front of me. I meditated,

623
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: I closed my eyes and I said, all right, tell

624
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: me when I'm supposed to quit. I did like this,

625
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 4: It went September. So the last friday in September, September

626
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 4: twenty eighth. I said, all right, September twenty eighth's that's it.

627
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: So September fourteenth, two weeks. Notice this is in April.

628
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: I'm telling my friends. I'm like, yeah, man, I'm quitting

629
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: this September. And they're like, what are you gonna do.

630
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm going to perform. I'm going to act.

631
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: What do you have lined up? Nothing? So and then

632
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 4: I said, okay, I'm making money performing as a mannequin man, dancing, singing.

633
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: Now it's time to focus on my acting. And I

634
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: started taking this acting workshop. And the gentleman that ran

635
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: the acting workshop, Jay Corn, his wife Lindecito, ran the

636
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: acting school for kids. Well, they both ran it together,

637
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 4: but she was it was her school and on weekends

638
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: we would do improv comedy with the kids from the

639
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: acting school. And so I developed this rapport with the kids,

640
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: and so when they needed a substitute teacher, they asked

641
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: me to do it because they were preparing the kids

642
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: for this showcase where they would fly in casting directors

643
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: and agents from Dallas. I mean from Los Angeles to Dallas.

644
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 4: It's a two day workshop. And this casting director, Shirley Abrams,

645
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: came in and saw me working with these kids, and

646
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: I was doing this whole mannequin thing where I'd have

647
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: them freeze in a certain mannequin pose and you may

648
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 4: would do a line from their scene, and I'd have

649
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: them it was like, okay, go crazy, move move, now

650
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 4: freeze and they they'd have to pick a very unique pose.

651
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: So now you have to use your cognitive skills and

652
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: you couldn't just freeze. You had to you had to

653
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 4: find something unique and different, right. Hold that. So as

654
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: you're holding that, you're now focusing and concentrating not only

655
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: on that pose, but on your body and then also

656
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: on your mind, trying to remember what your line is.

657
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: And then I walk up to one of them or

658
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 4: two or three, and I'd say, now give me a

659
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 4: line from your scene, and then they'd have to do that,

660
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: and it's fro in position. So what they're now doing

661
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: is channeling that energy and they're grounding that energy. Really

662
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: saw that. She's like, oh my gosh, that's that's pretty impressive.

663
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: She was so like graver, headshot, and resume. And so

664
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: she called me into audition for America's Most Wanted. And

665
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 4: what I was auditioning for was this drug dealer who

666
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: had shot a guy. There was a drug dealer who

667
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: had just got out of jail.

668
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 3: Now how she get that from what she was doing

669
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: with the kids?

670
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, Because I'm a right,

671
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 7: right and so and so here's a funny thing.

672
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 4: This is a bridge. Right. In fourth grade, my tooth

673
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: got knocked out. I used to have a what you

674
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 4: call one of those flippers where you could just take

675
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 4: the tooth out right, and then later on I had

676
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: to have a root canal, and so then I had

677
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 4: to have two, So there was two teeth on like

678
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: this flipper. Right, Sometimes I could take my tongue and

679
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 4: they come out. So I'm in this audition and there's

680
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: the drug dealer who's the leader of the game, sitting

681
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 4: in the passenger seat. One of his guys is driving.

682
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: They had a guy in the back and one of

683
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: the guys had snitched on him, and so they also

684
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 4: had that guy in the back seat. So in the

685
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: scene the drug dealer, he turns around, he shoots the guy,

686
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: and then he tells ther. He tells the guy in

687
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 4: the back seat to push him out the car, and

688
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: then he tells the driver to run over him. And

689
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: this was true. This was a reenactment, so they had

690
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: us switch to different roles in the audition. So I'm

691
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 4: doing the drug dealer guy and I turned around to

692
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 4: the back seat and just making the sound bang my

693
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: teeth came out. So the guy, the guy that was

694
00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: sitting behind me, he was like a worse. Shirley was like, wow,

695
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: that was so convincing. That was incredible. And so then

696
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: we're walking outside and the dude was like, man, what

697
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 4: the hell was that? Right? Sorry? Man? Sometimes my te like, man,

698
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: you scared me.

699
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: Wait you ever seen that video with Dame Dash teeth

700
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 3: falling out?

701
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: No?

702
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I got this. I'm a DM t Okay, you're

703
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: gonna crack up.

704
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 4: So I ended up getting the roll. It wasn't the

705
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: role of this guy. It was the role of the

706
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 4: driver and we were gonna go to Arkansas and shoot

707
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 4: this whole America's most Wanted. And I'm bragging to my friends, Yeah,

708
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: I'm going to Arkansas. We're gonna shoot this day America's

709
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: most Wanted. And this was now in August, right, And

710
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: so Shirley gives me a call. She says, I have

711
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 4: some good news and I have some bad news. And

712
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, what is it? He says, well, the

713
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 4: good news is they found the guy. And the bad

714
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: news is we're not now We're gonna not gonna shoot

715
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: the project. Wow, learned a very very important lesson, very

716
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: valuable lesson. Don't go bragging off about what you're supposed

717
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: to do and what you're gonna do. And had facts,

718
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: especially in entertainment facts and then she says, but I've

719
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: seen you, I've seen your work with children, I've seen

720
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 4: you know. I'm gonna I got something for you. So

721
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: cut to I turned in my two weeks notice at

722
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 4: Texas Instruments a week later. There's a facts that comes

723
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 4: through Facts.

724
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: Is listen you now?

725
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 4: And so it was, you know, the audition for Barney,

726
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: you know, and the premise was a good actor athletic

727
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 4: works well with children, and if you have any costume

728
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: character experience. So when I read it, I was like,

729
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: I don't then least Lsito, who owns the school. Her

730
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: and Shirley are good friends, and she says, well, if

731
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: you don't want to do it, you should call Shirley

732
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: and just let her know that you don't want to

733
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 4: do this, right, So I called Shirley. Shirley said, no,

734
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: I'm not taking no for an answer. I've seen you.

735
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: I think you're perfect for it. You had this rasp

736
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 4: be voice. She says, no, David, I'm not going to

737
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 4: take nor answer. I've seen you work with these children,

738
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: and I think you're perfect for it. I was like,

739
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 4: it's like the raft of God.

740
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: You know what, Shirley for you, I'll do it right.

741
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: I'm going to send you some videos. Study the videos

742
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 4: so when you come to the audition you'll be prepared.

743
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 4: So every time I pop in one of these videos

744
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: to watch, I would fall asleep. Mmm, I'm like this

745
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: is boring. I was like, I don't want to do this,

746
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 4: and so every time I was like, all right, let

747
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: me pop another one in.

748
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: Because what are the eyes that The first barning name

749
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: was Barney Too. I mean his name is David too.

750
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 4: I know right right, and so I'm like, I don't

751
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: get it. I don't get it. And and two of

752
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 4: the kids that were on the show, Lucy and Derek,

753
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 4: there were students at the acting school, and so I

754
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: talked to them and talked to their mom and you know,

755
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: find out a little bit about the show. And so

756
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: the night before the audition, I'm laying there and I'm

757
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: listening to Prince. I'm a huge Prince fan. Prince resonates

758
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: with me. Sometimes I hear his music and it's like

759
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 4: the angels are talking to me. Sometimes, of course he's

760
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 4: Prince music. A lot of times my massage and I

761
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 4: would saying, do me like you never done before.

762
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: I know these women, these massage just be done like

763
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 3: a bit.

764
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 6: You.

765
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 4: Anyway, So I'm listening to Prince after I popped in

766
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: this video and I just couldn't watch it. I fell asleep.

767
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: So now I'm laying on the sofa listening to the Prince.

768
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: And then I get up and I go to bed.

769
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 4: And a lot of times things come to me in

770
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 4: my dreams, and sometimes if I intentionally ask for guidance,

771
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: ask for it, show me the way before I lay

772
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 4: my head down. And then there's a grounding effect that

773
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: you learn. Whereas when you lie flat, you put the

774
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: palms down on the mattress and you intentionally feel the

775
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 4: roots like a tree fingertips going down into the soil

776
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 4: and grounding you and connecting you, and you take like

777
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 4: ten deep breaths, and then you just lay there and

778
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: allow that energy to now feel you up. What that

779
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 4: also does is allows you in your dream state to

780
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: be very clear and direct and with purpose what you

781
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 4: want to see or what you're trying to manifest. So

782
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 4: I went to bed that night and I asked, Okay,

783
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 4: give me guidance, let me know, because I I don't

784
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 4: want to go in the city audition. I don't want

785
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: to embarrass Shirley. I don't want to embarrass the raft

786
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: of God, you know. And so I had this dream

787
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: and in the dream, Barney's In the dream, Barney passes out.

788
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 4: I see it, Barney mouth the mouth through suscitation and

789
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 4: revive them. And so then the next day I'm driving

790
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: to the audition, and my spiritual number is twenty two.

791
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 4: Whenever I see it, twenty two, always stop and give thanks,

792
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: and I say the same prayer all the time. I

793
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 4: love you, I adore you. I magnify your name, allow

794
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 4: your will to be my will each and every day.

795
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 4: And so when I see it too, too, too, I

796
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: know something very powerful and significant is about to happen.

797
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: We're getting at a stoplight. Spirit says, look up. I

798
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 4: look up at this billboard. It says, Breathe life into

799
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: your vacation Southwest Airlines. I'm driving, I get into the

800
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: parking lot. I go to turn off the car. It's

801
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: twelve twenty two, so I stop and save my meditation.

802
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 4: And then I look up and there's this same advertisement

803
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 4: on a different billboard, Breathe life into your vacation Southwest Airlines.

804
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: Now I start walking across the parking lot, and then

805
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: that's when it hit me. Barney passed out in the

806
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: dream because there was no energy, there was no life.

807
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 4: I kept falling asleep watching this video because I felt

808
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: there wasn't enough energy into this audition. And if I

809
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 4: breathe life into this character, I'm going on vacation after

810
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 4: I got the role, because they didn't pick me at first.

811
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: They picked a young lady and they asked me if

812
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: I would consider being back up. But the spirit had

813
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: already told me that it was my role after several

814
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 4: auditions and even one audition, but it was like six

815
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: or seven auditions.

816
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: Wow.

817
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: And at one point Bob West was there and we

818
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 4: had to memorize the script and then they wanted to

819
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 4: see some ad lib and so one of the other

820
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: stories is when I was about seven years old, I

821
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: would stand in front of the TV and I would

822
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: lip sync whatever was going on to entertain the family

823
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 4: and friends. And so growing up being a party gag

824
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: where I'd walk in and like, dang, do your thing,

825
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 4: Do your thing. So I'd study someone's mannerisms. I'd listen

826
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 4: to them talk and then I say, okay, I'm going

827
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: to turn around. I'm going to become your body while

828
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 4: you're talking. And I would do that and people are like, ahh,

829
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 4: that's funny. Well, little did I know he was trained

830
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: to do that. So in the auditioned that Bob was there,

831
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: We're doing the script. I'm moving the mouth as best

832
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: as I can. The costume was a little comforsome for me,

833
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: that constant one that David Voss had, and so I

834
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 4: had to stand a certain way to actually make it

835
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: look straight. So my body was kind of contort in there,

836
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 4: and so then when we got to the ad lib

837
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 4: and I'm moving the mouth with what he's saying, and

838
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 4: I'm doing the gestures and the jumps and everything. So Wilson,

839
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 4: who is the performance director, she comes and she looks

840
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 4: into the mouth and she says, wait a minute. She says,

841
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 4: what are you doing? I said, what do you mean?

842
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 4: She says, how are you doing that? I said, what

843
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 4: are you talking about? How are you moving your mouth

844
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: at the same time that he's talking. And I said, oh,

845
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 4: this little party gag that I used to do back

846
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 4: in the day. I would mimic people. And she's like,

847
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 4: that's amazing. So then all of this was happening. I'm

848
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 4: getting all these compliments. But then at the end of

849
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 4: the day they picked the young lady, like why would

850
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 4: they put a woman over me?

851
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: Right?

852
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: And then after a while was she white? Yes?

853
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: She was, okay, there you go.

854
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: Well, you know not.

855
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: That that was because you want the white guys here too, right, right, right?

856
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 4: A black man to be bonne, right, But anyway, so

857
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 4: you know, you be back up and I said yeah.

858
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: So apparently she had to do one live performance and

859
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 4: wasn't able to handle it. And this was before they

860
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: went to the studio to shoot the first video. The

861
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 4: first video was going to be Barnie in concert, and

862
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 4: that's what the audition was for to shoot two home

863
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 4: videos because they'd already shot a series now they wanted

864
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 4: to shoot two more home videos. So that's what that's

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Speaker 4: what was on the audition sheet. And so when they

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Speaker 4: then asked me if I would do it, and I

867
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 4: said yeah, I said, but it's gonna cost you more money.

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Speaker 4: Now exactly created you know a little bit better than Plus,

869
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 4: I knew what the kids are making and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to be in a costume. You can't

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Speaker 4: see me in a heavy costume, and I'm making the

872
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: same amount of money next to me that you can

873
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 4: see the likeness, you can hear the voice, you can

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Speaker 4: hear the person singing. I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

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00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: no no, we got to be fair about this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Contract, it was a good contract. And so then once

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Speaker 4: I got the roll, I knew. I was like, man,

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Speaker 4: if this thing ever gets on television, it's going to

880
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 4: go crazy.

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Speaker 2: Oh so you knew when you first, like once you

882
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Speaker 2: join and you signed a contract, you just knew off

883
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Speaker 2: the rip.

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Speaker 4: I knew I could feel it I could feel it.

885
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 4: Then I'm like, okay, I came into the audition with

886
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: this energy and also being an athlete, I had this

887
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: athletic energy like woo. And the David Voss version of

888
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 4: Barney was, you know, kind of stiff, kind of you

889
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: could move. And then I said, okay, now why would

890
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: they pick a woman to be in this six seven costume,

891
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 4: this heavy costume? And I said, I got to figure

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00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 4: it out. So one night I was talking to Miss Penny,

893
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 4: our performance director, and I said, you know, I couldn't

894
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 4: understand why they picked the young lady over me, and

895
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And I said, tell me something about

896
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 4: David Voss and and she says, what a lot of

897
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: people didn't know at the time that he was gay,

898
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: come out of the closet. And so we used to

899
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 4: all also that feminine energy, right, So I said.

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Speaker 3: Oh, now it makes sense.

901
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 4: And so I said, all right, I got to tone

902
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 4: my energy down. I got to find a balance. So,

903
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Speaker 4: and here's the other thing about TNTRA and TNTRA. They

904
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: teach you to honor the feminine and the masculine energy

905
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 4: within you because they all have both energies within us. Right,

906
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 4: A lot of times men being homophobic, they don't want

907
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: that feminine energy to lead and they try to hide

908
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: that energy.

909
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 3: Trying to mask it.

910
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then some of the men sometimes who are

911
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 4: homophobic are on the d L right right, when you

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00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 4: tap into that feminine energy also as a heterosexual, and

913
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 4: as you're taught to honor goddess energy, you're also honoring

914
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 4: the goddess energy within you.

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Speaker 1: Fast.

916
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: So I said, okay, I got to bring that energy out,

917
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 4: so that energy is now equal to the masculine energy

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Speaker 4: inside the Barnie costume. The other thing I would say,

919
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: and this may sound bad, you know, forgive me if

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00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 4: y'all don't consider this the right thing to do or

921
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: the right thing to say, but I would. After I

922
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 4: do my meditation and everything, I said, all right, let's

923
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: be gay. And so instead of doing this, I was glad.

924
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 3: And it worked.

925
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 4: I get in costume. It's like and jay can mean happy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was happy.

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Speaker 2: This concludes part one of this week's episode. Part two

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Speaker 2: drops next week, same time, same place.

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