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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in. Good to be back in the

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Speaker 2: big chair in the Fox Sports Radio studios, the highways

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Speaker 2: and byways, a little bit of travel, relaxation, reset, recalibration

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Speaker 2: ahead of on our long arduous road of the NFL season. Greatings.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmen alongside Ryan Hollins. Yeah, ten years in

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Speaker 2: the National Basketball Association. He has featured on Clipped, which

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Speaker 2: has now ended its runs. So homework for you all

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Speaker 2: for next week. You all have to watch it, including you.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins on Twitter is where

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Speaker 2: you find him. So excited to be back with you.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing, good man? Doing good? Brother?

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Speaker 2: What a crazy week. We saw a near fight in

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Speaker 2: the underground in London. We saw the beginning of a

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Speaker 2: police chase in London, and well, just a lot of chaos,

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff going on, obviously the Euro twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, which I've keenly observing throughout our travels and

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Speaker 2: everything here about while watching from abroad, all of the

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Speaker 2: the NBA contracts and funny money floating around. Ryan, And

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Speaker 2: you know, as I always say, you get what you're worth.

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Speaker 2: So folks that want to complain this guy's too much,

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Speaker 2: that guy's too little. Whatever, I get over yourselves. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'll have a controversial take on the Lakers when it's

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Speaker 2: all said and done as well. But it was funny

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Speaker 2: because the other thing that I experienced, and I thank

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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz for sitting in with you last week. I

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Speaker 2: know you guys have a history including a hot dog

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Speaker 2: eating contest. That one was kind of odd to me.

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Speaker 3: See, I'm sure eating contests with you're right right, And.

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Speaker 2: He also, I know, had worked it for ESPN as

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Speaker 2: a sideline reporter a couple of times. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a very strange world and path that

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Speaker 2: we all even this. But I'm sure you guys got

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Speaker 2: into that a little bit. And the post production, whatever

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Speaker 2: kind of treatment you got after doing a segment of

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Speaker 2: a hot dog eating, a little bit of treatment, a

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Speaker 2: of things from the the euro Trek, you know, was

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Speaker 2: sprinkled in throughout the show. Heroes and Villains is gonna

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Speaker 2: be our theme along the way here, Ryan Hollins, because well,

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Speaker 2: we had some big announcements yesterday. You saw what I

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Speaker 2: posted on Instagram at Swollen Dome, at Twitter on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome because one of the goats has retired.

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Speaker 2: Not I don't like go talking most things, but if

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Speaker 2: it's gonna get me talking about profession wrestling, damn it,

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Speaker 2: that's where we're gonna go. So we got John Cena

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Speaker 2: to talk about a little bit. Later today we will

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Speaker 2: also celebrate and the audio is being cut up as

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Speaker 2: we speak. One of the greatest anniversaries in sports and

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Speaker 2: entertainment history is today, and then tomorrow is another anniversary

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Speaker 2: in the sporting world that fits along that theme. Add

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Speaker 2: the Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese deciding which side you're on

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Speaker 2: of who's the hero, who's the villain, And we've got

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Speaker 2: so much to get to. But you know, Summer League

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Speaker 2: has begun and like everybody else I'm cheap, they said,

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Speaker 2: tune in at one point thirty, and there it was my, My,

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Speaker 2: the gravitational force found me to the Lakers and the

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Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings. Not quite the fervor of back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Remember how electric things were twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, the

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Speaker 2: gone during most of the handwringing from Laker Nation Ryan

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Speaker 2: following the draft, but here we got our first looks,

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Speaker 2: and I came away with the you know, really scientific

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Speaker 3: Yeah what you know, that's exactly what it is, and

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Speaker 3: a great NBA draft. And people have to understand too,

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Speaker 3: in our reality, Brinny is the fifty fifth pick. It's

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Speaker 3: you really have to temper expectations there. But I thought

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just chuckle, right, because we can cherry pick,

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Speaker 2: all right, this guy's going to become you know, the

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Speaker 2: franchise altering person. Well, then shame on you and if

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Speaker 2: you're putting that because you need hot take nonsense, again,

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Speaker 2: to your hot take nonsense. Right, So it cuts both

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Speaker 2: Is that like everybody tries to help their kid if

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Speaker 2: The obviously measuring in nearly three inches shorter than you

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Speaker 2: in your life, in all circumstances, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: things that you just kind of have to smile and say, well,

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Speaker 2: be real about where we're at in our places of employment.

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Speaker 2: People that gain favor whether it's just they're nicer to everybody,

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Speaker 2: lot of life, Ryan, as you well know how many

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Speaker 2: would suffer that next couple of games if the opponent

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Speaker 2: allowed a coach to make a point. Right, I mean

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Speaker 2: there's things like that in every office space all the

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Speaker 2: know whatever. That's to every business, sports or otherwise. So

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Speaker 2: he gets a shot and we'll find out pretty fast,

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Speaker 2: I think if he can play or not. Good on

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Speaker 2: him for being able to get a four year, eight

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Speaker 2: but they're recognizing there's marketing opportunities. And let's face it,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of offset by what Bronni's about to.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I didn't even think about that.

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Speaker 2: Right, Because it also keeps them under the second apron.

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Speaker 2: So for team tax purposes whatever, Lebron did them a

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Speaker 2: the solid all right, Bronni gets taken care of over

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Speaker 2: here because you're gonna make money off this, and we

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Speaker 2: the end it is still a business.

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Speaker 3: Wow. No, No, that's huge. And you know, again, I

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Speaker 3: They kind of take the the goat debate a little

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Speaker 3: gonna speak for you here, Mike. It's not that you're

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Speaker 3: If you like Lebron, people kind of talk crazy about

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan. You know, it's it's like ongoing beef. So

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Speaker 3: that's really the frustration with these goat debates. And you know,

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Speaker 3: because of that, now when it comes to Lebron and

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Speaker 3: his son, Ronnie's getting the aftermath of these frustrations and

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Speaker 3: They made a really good point. And you know we've

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Speaker 3: known this for a long time, but every coach hires

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Speaker 3: all these juniors, all these sons, and the front office

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Speaker 3: members do it like you get Mike. You could go

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Speaker 3: down the line, go.

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Speaker 2: Down, starting them work out and some of them don't. Right,

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Speaker 2: you had bum Phillips and Wade Film. Wade Phillips one

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Speaker 2: on that. For you as your point on the goat debate, right,

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Speaker 2: it's all nuanced and it's you know what he you see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about the project that some of the folks,

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Speaker 2: got fired. That was like, oh wow, okay cool. And

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Speaker 2: then yeah, moved back to the Lakers thing and Danny

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Speaker 2: Hurley and he throws out a pitch at the Yankee

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Speaker 2: Stadium and gets the standing ovation and all of that stuff,

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Speaker 2: and like it's it's headlines, it's drama, it's a soap opera.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of spikes behind it though. You know,

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Speaker 3: JJ you know, stood for a while at least reportedly

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Speaker 3: as the leading candidate, and that like fired a lot

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Speaker 3: of people up. And then it seems like, you know

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Speaker 3: whoa Lakers are going to pay Danny Hurley and they

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Speaker 3: normally you know, don't pay coaches right, and then people

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Speaker 3: kind of okay, we're on board, and then all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, JJ came dashing right back into the race.

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Speaker 3: So that was definitely the uh, that was the excitement there. Man,

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Speaker 3: that was the fire the possesss behind.

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Speaker 2: But that's what the Lakers brand brings. Like, we're talking

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Speaker 2: about it here in the studio, Ian Roddy, our executive producer,

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Speaker 2: Chris Burfett on the ones and twos, our technical producer.

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Speaker 2: We got crandle in here. He's part of the squad

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Speaker 2: and learning and with us. And over there we got

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Speaker 2: our guy, Isaac low and Crown fresh off another great

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Speaker 2: call for Angel City, a tough one, but a great

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Speaker 2: call as well. We'll hear one of his highlights a

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Speaker 2: little bit later. I'm efforting that one because that was

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Speaker 2: a big deal. But you know, as we're talking about

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Speaker 2: the Lakers, like, how many times have you seen guys

454
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Speaker 2: photoshopped in the Laker jerseys two years, three years before

455
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Speaker 2: their contracts are up. That guy's a future Laker? Why?

456
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Speaker 2: Because you want him? You want to make it. So

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Speaker 2: Chris was laughing saying I kept calling out all these

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Speaker 2: guys future Pistons, and people were getting at Chris. Come on,

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Speaker 2: I did that.

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Speaker 8: I did that one year just I'm like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 8: not Draymond Green, who was it at the time, Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 8: come on down to the Detroit Pistons. Everyone called me

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Speaker 8: psychotic on Twitter, and I'm like, well, this is just

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Speaker 8: what Lakers fans are doing. Why can't I do it

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Speaker 8: with the Pistons?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? We got rings, we got banners. Why not history there,

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Speaker 2: why not saying that, you know, it's our time to

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Speaker 2: rise again right alongside where the Lions are. And again,

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Speaker 2: my guy Jason Smith in the evenings Hollins and Profet

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Speaker 2: two years ago he announced the arrival and rise of

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Speaker 2: the Pistons. I tried to expectations and calming down. You

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Speaker 2: can blame him for what's now happened with the squad,

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Speaker 2: but it's the kind of thing the Lake brand brings,

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Speaker 2: brings love and togetherness. And here in the city of

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles city where we're broadcasting from here, you've got

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Speaker 2: the Lakers, the Dodgers and everything else. That's just the

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Speaker 2: way it works and blips on the radar. And right

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Speaker 2: now a lot of billboards for Jim Harbaugh, wishing, wanting

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Speaker 2: hoping for the next era of Chargers. But tomorrow is

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Speaker 2: the anniversary of the big thing. We're talking heroes and villains.

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Speaker 2: In ten minutes, we'll commemorate the anniversary that happened in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six on this day, but July eighth, twenty ten,

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Speaker 2: in front of an assembled media and on a national

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Speaker 2: television stage, we got this announcement. The answer to the

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Speaker 2: question everybody wants to know, Lebron, what's your decision.

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Speaker 3: In this fall? I mean, it's very tough, and this

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Speaker 3: fall I'm gonna take my talents to South Beach and

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Speaker 3: joining Miami Heach, Miami Heap.

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Speaker 2: That was the conclusion you woke up with this morning.

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Speaker 3: That was the conclusion I woke up with this morning.

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Speaker 2: Now there's no cheering, there's Jim Gray. Remember when this

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Speaker 2: went down. Money goes to Boys and Girls Club. My

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Speaker 2: only problem with with Lebron in all of this Ryan right,

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Speaker 2: take your power, exercise your opportunities wherever you can, whatever

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Speaker 2: you know, flex where you can in your job, hey,

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Speaker 2: in your personal life as you can, all of those things.

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Speaker 2: Go take advantage of your moments. Is that he didn't

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Speaker 2: embrace being a villain like I don't think he Dwayne

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Speaker 2: Wade Bosh was you know, I don't think he felt

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Speaker 2: it the same way because, well, let's face it, folks

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Speaker 2: weren't paying attention to him the same way, even though

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Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer. Is you knew this would

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Speaker 2: ruffle from feathers right? See the players taking some power

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Speaker 2: and starting that movement which we had already seen some

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Speaker 2: team ups right go back to the Houston and Rockets,

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Speaker 2: But those guys were kind of at the end. When

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Speaker 2: you look at Barkley and Pippin and such, or the

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00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: Celtics they got their title in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: But again, guys that were towards the end and teamed up.

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00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: Here was guys just starting into their prime taken over.

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Speaker 2: So is that the greatest sports heel turn non wrestling?

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Speaker 2: Of course? Ever, I say so.

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Speaker 3: And you know what's funny when I think about it,

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Speaker 3: you know, I may have to reconsider what I said

515
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Speaker 3: earlier because the one thing I said a lot of

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Speaker 3: people didn't like the bron for the goat debate. This

517
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Speaker 3: broke hearts. This move right here changed a culture.

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Speaker 2: Well, it changed the culture. It changed the game. As

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Speaker 2: much as we talk about the Warriors and what the

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00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Splash Brothers did and everything Steve Kerr and company will

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Speaker 2: hear from him a little bit later as everybody got

522
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Speaker 2: together for Team USA. But this really changed how a

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Speaker 2: lot of players thought, how owners and gms had to react.

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Speaker 2: And you talk about player agency and the agents of

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Speaker 2: said players being able to maybe put a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a squeeze on folks that they couldn't in years prior.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of guys took this mentality, and

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Speaker 3: for Lebron it was, I am, this is tough. In

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Speaker 3: some ways, He's never bounced back from a media wise

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Speaker 3: basketball white. Lebron's fine, his life is amazing, Okay, But

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Speaker 3: what ended up happening is Lebron was solved. He wanted

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Speaker 3: the easy way out. And then you had the former

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Speaker 3: legends just going against just just absolutely rebuking.

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Speaker 2: There right right, they'd changed it. Why we would never

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Speaker 2: do that, would never do this, And then the old

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Speaker 2: heads and sports media saying the same thing, would never

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Speaker 2: do this, Michael would never this. Magic wouldn't have to Well,

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Speaker 2: Magic and Larry are exception to the rule because look

539
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: at those teams they played on. Folks kept coming to them.

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00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: They didn't act to go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: So you know, so Michael didn't have to deal with

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Speaker 3: how good the Warriors were either, So that that was

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Speaker 3: also you know, factors in the place.

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Speaker 2: But that said a lot of different things. So I

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Speaker 2: want everybody out there at the Ryan Hollins at Swollen

546
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Speaker 2: Dome at Fox Sports Radio, localize it as you will,

547
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: because I know you all have that guy on your

548
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Speaker 2: favorite team that at some point went and played with

549
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Speaker 2: another uniform that just still irks you to the core

550
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Speaker 2: of your being. Are you you know a Red Sox fan?

551
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: Think of all those guys that became Yankees one after another.

552
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Speaker 2: Now Roger Clemens is in George's box, right, he's there.

553
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Speaker 2: He got Wade Boggs, You got Johnny Damon, Hell, you

554
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: got Babe Ruth being sold for one undred and twenty

555
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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars and going out to the career he

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Speaker 2: had go all the way down. If you have one

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Speaker 2: of those, send it in in the Twitter verse. We'll

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Speaker 2: include those. I've got another list beyond those I just mentioned,

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Speaker 2: so plenty of those to go. But coming up next

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Speaker 2: we will commemorate today's big anniversary. Crandall was working, putting

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Speaker 2: in the work to make this sound come through because well,

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Speaker 2: I want to celebrate all things chaotic, and that also

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Speaker 2: means I got to bring in Isaac Lohenkron because I

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Speaker 2: can't do it without him.

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Speaker 9: Hi Boddy, good morning, Mike, Good morning, Ryan and Mike belated.

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Speaker 9: Congratulations on a successful mission all the way to Dublin

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Speaker 9: for the Taylor Swift eras tool. Yeah we made that

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Speaker 9: here of the decade, right, I.

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Speaker 2: Owe it to my brother. My brother made that happen.

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Speaker 2: We called in a lot of favors and I'm indebted

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Speaker 2: for a long time.

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Speaker 9: Very impressive.

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot more son in my future. Let's

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Speaker 2: put it out.

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Speaker 9: The message received loud and Claire. I mean, I love

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Speaker 9: my kids, but I wouldn't take him across the street

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Speaker 9: for Taylor Swift. God.

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Speaker 2: So wow wow, Hey sweet sixteen, I love Hive. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I hate it happened. I me so so.

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Speaker 9: My hat's off to you, going all the way across

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Speaker 9: the world to the beautiful, beautiful city of Dublin. We

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Speaker 9: began to the NBA, where multiple outlets report that six

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Speaker 9: time all start DeMar DeRozan signing a three year, seventy

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Speaker 9: six million dollars deal with the Sacamento Kings. It comes

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Speaker 9: via a three team sign and trade deal that'll send

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Speaker 9: Chris Chris Dwartze to the Chicago Bulls and Harrison Barnes

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Speaker 9: to the San Antonio Spurs. Earlier Saturday, at the NBA

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Speaker 9: Summer League, the Sacabento Kings defeated the Los Angeles Lakers

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Speaker 9: what away to ninety four. Bronni James got the start

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Speaker 9: in twenty two minutes, two out of nine from the field,

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Speaker 9: four points, three rebounds, two assist, no turnovers committed, no

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Speaker 9: personal fouls commit. In Major League Baseball Saturday night, the

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Speaker 9: Arizona Diamondbacks won at San Diego in ten inning, seven

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Speaker 9: to five. Rocky's over the Royals three to one at

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Speaker 9: three game winning streak for Colorado and sho Hee Otani

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Speaker 9: at his twenty eighth home run in the Dodgers five

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Speaker 9: to three win over the Milwaukee Brewers. Soccer Saturday night,

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Speaker 9: in the quarterfinals of Copa America, Uruguay knocked off Brazil

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Speaker 9: on penalty kicks four to two after they finished extra

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Speaker 9: time in a scoreless tie. Mike and Ryan here is

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Speaker 9: how Uruguay's shootout winning penalty kick goals started. Sounded rather

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Speaker 9: on Radio Uruguay with Fabian Bertolini at the mic.

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Speaker 10: Whoasvars Wayans send me p dollars birds.

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Speaker 9: Here to translate that. Ryan Hollins, Ryan, just getting back

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Speaker 9: in this final perfect letter, perfect look at that, you're

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Speaker 9: Spanish's first grade.

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Speaker 2: There you go, he'd got it done. He's Ryan Hollinds

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Speaker 2: over there, Isaac Lowancron at Isaac lowen Kron coming up next,

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Speaker 2: the greatest heel turn in sports entertainment history. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know where we're going. We're we're leaving no stone unturned

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Speaker 2: today on Fucked.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Mike Armin,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins with you here. Reminder, shortly after the show,

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Speaker 2: the podcast goes up. If you missed any of today's show,

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Speaker 2: be sure to check it out. Search Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to follow, rate

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Speaker 2: and review it again. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

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Speaker 2: get your podcasts. Was trying to hit the post and

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Speaker 2: you'll see this show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 2: the air. Remember Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Weekends, Hollins

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Speaker 2: and Harmon. So it's a huge anniversary. Ryan Hollins taking

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Speaker 2: you all the way back to Bash at the Beach

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, a day that changed to young Mike

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Speaker 2: Harmon's life forever as hul Cogan showed his true colors.

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Speaker 3: Come on again, some of this?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 2: Who's I'm cogging a rug?

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 2: God? Is he the thirty third?

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Speaker 3: The hell? It's gone on here? Cooking?

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be trying way what you're gonna do when

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Speaker 1: the New World Organization runs wild on you?

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Speaker 3: What's your daughter? Don't put me.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna play the lawyers.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see the lawyers. So Gene Okerland, there's

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Speaker 2: people throwing tons of stuff into the ring. Thanks Chris

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00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: and Crandell and Ian forgetting that sound together for us. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I mean, when we talk about sports and entertainment, you're

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Speaker 2: always trying to what's the visceral thing? And that goes

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Speaker 2: back to the whole Lakers conversation, right. There's a love

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Speaker 2: hate relationship with Lebron, there's a love hate relationship with

644
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Speaker 2: hull Cogan and what happened there? All the training, saying

645
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Speaker 2: your prayers, eating your vitamins. You know, I did the

646
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Speaker 2: quick run to Vegas, met up with a friend of

647
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: mine and my brother and we hung out and on

648
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Speaker 2: the TV in between sporting events, right Copa America and

649
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Speaker 2: Euro twenty twenty four and horse racing and baseball and

650
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Speaker 2: whatever else we went on. That was the Rocky Marathon

651
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: that's always on, So obviously we had to stop down

652
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Speaker 2: to watch a little CLUBB laying in Thunderlips and Rocky

653
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Speaker 2: three along the way. So like all the hero run

654
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Speaker 2: that Hull Cogan had in that moment, you know, people

655
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: still thinking, man, it's real. Man, the the bumps are

656
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: real storylines, you know, take you in and out heroes,

657
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: villains and turns this one. I know folks that were

658
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: deeply disturbed at that moment and maybe never recovered Ryan ounds.

659
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Look, I grew up to Hogan. I

660
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: did have to adjust to the bad guy version of him,

661
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: and yeah, he was the American hero. And you know,

662
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: I'll say, you know, Hogan turned me off for some

663
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: other reasons I don't necessarily want to dive into, but

664
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Speaker 3: that that was, at that moment a turning point. I

665
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: kind of liked it. I didn't mind it. It was

666
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: it was it was a correct me if I'm wrong.

667
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: It was a rejuvenation into wrestling and it was a

668
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: different you know era. You know, so hey, I enjoyed

669
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Speaker 3: that time.

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Speaker 4: I liked it.

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Speaker 3: I had to get you. I was again I'd say

672
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Speaker 3: I was indifferent with Hogan as the bad guy, but

673
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Speaker 3: I watched it.

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00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: I liked it.

675
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: Scott Hall and Kevin Nash and eventually Dennis Rodman, who

676
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: will factor back into our our heel turn in all

677
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: way shapes and form, and yes, Hogan off there outside

678
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: the ring and off the mat. Yeah, he flair all

679
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: the greats, which we'll get into that goat conversation a

680
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: little bit later. The you know, there's the wrestling persona

681
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: and history and a lot of other that kind of

682
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: circles in with it, no question about it. Not a

683
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: straight path to any of it involved, but you know,

684
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: wanted to bring it up to day one because I

685
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: still live in that world because, let's face it, we've

686
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: been tied and you hear the SmackDown promotions and I

687
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: know it's all changing and Netflix coming in. That was

688
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: a big focus of last night's pay per view because

689
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: what do you do to unwind at the end of

690
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: a long day of supporting that you watch money in

691
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: the bank and chaos that ensues out of there see, Ryan,

692
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: I am never growing up. I'm still the kid with

693
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: the backwards baseball cap. That might not allow me to

694
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: be a coach according to some folks, or executive according

695
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: to some folks in our media world. But that's okay.

696
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: I'll be okay with that because we're having fun chatting

697
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: about it here. But that one just it just runs

698
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: in parallel with talking about, you know, everything going on

699
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: with the NBA and the Lebron and Browny rhetoric, the

700
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: JJ reddick, the line jumping lines and everything else that

701
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: people want to do because it moves the needle. It

702
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: moves the needle, right, Either be good or be bad.

703
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: Don't be boring, and don't be mediocre. What's the worst

704
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: thing you can do? I mean, in the NFL, you

705
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: can't go eight and eight anymore. I guess you can

706
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: go eight eight to one. But what's the worst thing

707
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: if you're a basketball player? You did this for a

708
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 2: decade in the league being about five hundred, not getting ahead,

709
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: not falling behind. What are we and we're not going

710
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: to get the benefit of the draft the way the

711
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: systems set up.

712
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Speaker 3: Either, No, you're right, you have to. When I first

713
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: got into the business, Michael Thompson is my PD over

714
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: at the other station. And one thing he said, you

715
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: got to make people feel some type of way. If

716
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 3: you don't make me feel some type of way, you

717
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: don't bring any value.

718
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Speaker 2: No, that's a good guy to jump off with because

719
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: Michael Thompson in his fields, that's part of the larger

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Speaker 2: NBA landscape. We'll do it next on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us and giving us a few

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Speaker 2: minutes of your time. No, you have a lot of

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Speaker 2: options on this holiday weekend. Maybe you're in the car

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Speaker 2: heading back from your vacation destiny, a little trip with

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Speaker 2: the family, maybe to the seaside, maybe to a theme

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Speaker 2: park near you. Whatever the case may be, we appreciate

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Speaker 2: you a hearty handshake, Hello, hug and all the peace

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Speaker 2: and love. Visit is Ringo's birthday, eighty four years old.

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Speaker 2: Peace and love, Peace and love to you all. Mike

738
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Speaker 2: Carman alongside Ryan Hollins ten years in the NBA working

739
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: with the Houston Rockets. He's part of the show Clipped,

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00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: which he has now been tasked to watch for next

741
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Speaker 2: week's episode of this show. I will be monitoring him

742
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: and his television viewing yeah, big Brother style as we

743
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: go through because it has finished. So now I got

744
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: to get the look of a man who was there

745
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 2: during the heart of the Donald Sterling scandal expertly played

746
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: by Ed O'Neil, Lawrence Fishburn as Doc Rivers and your

747
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: guy really messing up the appearance of Ryan.

748
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: Hollins, Mike Faate the great Mike Faye Ladies exoviation.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I watched the end of it last night

750
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: as part of the you know, my reintroduction to society.

751
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: I basically unplugged for a week for those that you know,

752
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: heard a lot more of Jason Smith and me not

753
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: being there to yell at him in the evening seven

754
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: to eleven Pacific, and then last week Jason Fitz sat

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00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: in with you. So thanks to Jason. He'll be in

756
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: with me a little bit later on this week as

757
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: Smith takes his sabbatical and sojourn to all things Harry

758
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: Potter across the Pond. So plenty of updates to come

759
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: from all of that. But in disappearing for a bit,

760
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't unplug entirely, right, so you buy

761
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: your international minutes and your international text plans and whatever.

762
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: Because it was an NBA free agency and I felt

763
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: bad about missing it to a point because you knew

764
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: there'd be some chaos, and certainly living in Los Angeles,

765
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: well you got the two divergent paths, the Clippers and

766
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: Paul George heading to the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Remember

767
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: Sortz has said that was dead. Ryan, Remember they said

768
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: that was dead after the little back and forth that

769
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid and Paul George had during the NBA Finals.

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00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: But I was like, no, no, no, they've backed off.

771
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: They're not gonna be in on this. And then obviously

772
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: the fact that the Lakers, other than their draft picks

773
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: and re signing Lebron James right now, it's they're running

774
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: it back. No free agents, no trades, and rebuffed in

775
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: all of their advances for many players, including Buddy Healed,

776
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: who will talk about a little bit more coming up

777
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: in about fifteen minutes, who was the apple of their

778
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: eye here in Los Angeles for a couple of years

779
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: and now he's a member of the Warriors. So all

780
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: of that to say, a bit of chaos here and

781
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: for the Clippers, who will welcome the into it Dome,

782
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: plenty of concerts to be had before they tip off

783
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: for real, Ryan, I mean, how do you characterize what

784
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: we saw in the Kawhi Leonard Paul George era.

785
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: It made and when people don't realize in LA you

786
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 3: got to put butts in seats. Okay, that's a job

787
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 3: and you have to. It's tough because a lot of

788
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: people are going to criticize the move, say, man, you

789
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 3: brought these guys in, they didn't do anything. There's a

790
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: lot of hype, there's a lot of excitement. It is

791
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: so hard to win a championship. That's the hardest thing

792
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: you're ever going to do as a player, as an organization.

793
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: Just everything has to align, you know, on top of

794
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: you know, just doing things the right way. And I

795
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: applaud the Clippers for going out and trying. I don't

796
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: think you can bash them for trying because a lot

797
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: of people, a lot of organizations, you know, they kind

798
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: of just throwing the towel in LA For Bomber to

799
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Speaker 3: be competitive, he had to try, and he tried. It

800
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: just didn't work out at the end of the day. Now,

801
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 3: the depth that they had, when you stack them up

802
00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: against other teams, it wasn't enough. And what's tough is

803
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: that that's what the Clippers had to do. So here's

804
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: on the other hand, right, and this is why you

805
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: can't attack the Clippers. Kawhi Leonard was the best player

806
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: in basketball at the moment he won a championship, and

807
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 3: just about ninety five or more percent of organizations were

808
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: going after Kawhi and Kawhi, what can we do to

809
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: get you here? So what Kawhi goes out and says

810
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: is that if you get me, I don't want to

811
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: do it alone. Maybe Kawhi knew that he'd be hurt,

812
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: maybe he knew he'd have some injuries. I don't know,

813
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: but he said, I don't want to do it alone.

814
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: And if you go out and get me, you have

815
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: to do what you got to get another star. Because

816
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do it alone. In fact, you

817
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: got to trade away your young talent and you have

818
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: to bring somebody in, Okay, because I'm not gonna do

819
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: this dance alone, which meant trade away Shay Gilgitt's Alexander

820
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: and bringing Paul George and do whatever it takes to

821
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 3: get it done, because that's something that I want to see.

822
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: I don't want to be alone. And when Kawhi did that,

823
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 3: you could look at the move now and say, well,

824
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: look at Shaye, look at Okay, see hey, look how

825
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: stacked they are. But the blaming of the Clippers I'm

826
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: not going to do, and I don't think another organization

827
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: can do, because at the end of the day, they

828
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: would have done the same thing to get Kawhi Leonard

829
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Speaker 3: at that time.

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Speaker 2: Right, it becomes the you take the swing and it

831
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: doesn't work out. The fact that Shay Gilders Alexander is

832
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: now an MVP candidate and one of the best players

833
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: in the game. That happened, right that unfortunately, But you

834
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: couldn't predict that. All Right, all right, he's gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: He's the centerpiece. Here's a bunch of draft picks, which,

836
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: as we know, throughout history is good luck, right, because

837
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: if the team any good again, going to the conversation

838
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: we had before, if you're right in the middle, guess

839
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: what you're outside the lottery. You don't even get a

840
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: couple of ping pong balls to the mix. And then

841
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: you start working through Okac and and how Prestyan company,

842
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: you know, value the draft picks and stockpile and everything else.

843
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: You know, I know a lot of folks were mad

844
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: that they couldn't execute a sign and trade, you know,

845
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: with Paul George to go either to Golden State or

846
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: or find another suit. Well, that's that's the business of it, right.

847
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't want to play ball. Sometimes there's things

848
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: behind the scenes we're not privy to that preclude those

849
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: deals from from getting done. Sometimes it's just out of

850
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: spite facing right, I mean, folks get better, Folks get better.

851
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna help this guy get to his desired destination.

852
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: You bring up Kawhi Leonard. You know the question I

853
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: asked before, if if there's still that that player moving

854
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: from one team to another, that still chaps your ass, right,

855
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: Talking a little bit about the heel turn and heroes

856
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: and villains being the theme Lebron James and when he

857
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: decided to take his talents to Miami.

858
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 3: And a situation like that hit me. You said, Spike

859
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: and a lot of people it's business, not spite it

860
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: doesn't happen like that. When I was in Cleveland, I

861
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: was trying to get traded right and trying to get

862
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: out of there because I wasn't playing, and it was

863
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: going when this guy's young, we like him. You have

864
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: a group of young talent, and if you're not going

865
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: to do anything with Ryan Allens, well we'll take them.

866
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: You know. That was you know, kind of what was

867
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 3: going on, and it was frustrating, you know. I mean,

868
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: I guess they're bigger first class or first world problems

869
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 3: that people have, but mine was getting traded from the NBA.

870
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: So at that time, they end up not trading me.

871
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: And when a team has your right, you know, they

872
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 3: own you. So I'm talking with my agent and I'm going, man,

873
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: I got to get out of here. He's like, well,

874
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna have to accept a buyout. So a

875
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: buyout means that you kind of negotiate money to give

876
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 3: back to the team so that you can go to

877
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 3: another team. And I go gosh, you know, I don't

878
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: want to have to do this, you know, but I

879
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 3: want to get out of here because the Celtics wanted me,

880
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: and the Celtics were trying to propose trades for me

881
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: to get there, and I wasn't playing, and you know,

882
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't able to kind of get out. And my agent,

883
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: Todd Ramazoon, did a heck of a job because what

884
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 3: he ended up negotiating was for me to be waived.

885
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: Now you hear a waved, and it sounds like a

886
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: bad thing. He just got waved. But when you wave

887
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: a guy that guaranteed money, what that does is that

888
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: means that you get to keep your money. So I

889
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: got a chance to keep all of the money that

890
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: was owed to me. And in any business you look

891
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: at Manny Williams and his firing, I was I negotiated

892
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: my own money william situation. That's why when we speak

893
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 3: about money Williams, we don't know ultimately what was going

894
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: on there. Maybe Detroit just did Many a favor and said, hey,

895
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: we know there's a lot of mental stuff going on

896
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: with you. Maybe this isn't a fit. Go coach somewhere else,

897
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: or go just take a mental break. You know, you

898
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: can only imagine what goes on, you know, in the

899
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: lives of these guys.

900
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: New people in the front office. So you're not their guy.

901
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: So the spike part comes in. This is where that

902
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: comes in. When I get waived, the only stipulation was

903
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: guess what. And this was a team that called the

904
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 3: non compete. You cannot go to Miami. You cannot join

905
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 3: Lebron James. He had just left Cleveland. There's a bad

906
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 3: taste in the mouths of the city, and you can

907
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 3: go anywhere, but you can't go to Miami or else.

908
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: We are not gonna do this. You will stay here

909
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 3: and rot.

910
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: Okay, but here's a year's subscription to the Rock and

911
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: Roll Hall of Fame.

912
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: You will not join the Miami Wow m hm. So

913
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 3: you know as you speak about Spie, yeah, oh yeah, brother,

914
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: it's it's real. It's very real.

915
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

916
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Nino Brown had it in New jack

917
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: City saying, you know, it's it's you know, just it's business.

918
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: It's never personal. That's not true. Hey, you're doing like

919
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: folks get in their fields, and we'll get into a

920
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: situation that I had folks in. There is a little

921
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: bit you mentioned Michael Thompson before. He's still a bit

922
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: salty over No, no, no, it's a different mind.

923
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 7: No, no, fun fact, Yeah, that's Michael Thompson. Mike why

924
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 7: the program Michael versus Michael Michael Thomson. I didn't know,

925
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 7: Like I didn't want to, you know, ascribe a job

926
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 7: to him. But I'm like, okay, maybe he was a

927
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 7: PD in titles.

928
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: No, no I'm not.

929
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm not Michael Tooms.

930
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 3: No, I know, I know, I'm absolutely oblivious to a

931
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: lot of things. No, but Mike worked there. In fun fact,

932
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: my very first gig ever, Michael came on as a

933
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: one and I was a two and it was Michael's

934
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: Michael Clay's dad. It was his first time as a

935
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: as a as a one, as a one okay, yeah,

936
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, and shout out Mike Man and he you know,

937
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that was my first time I read.

938
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: I came in with the with the tie on and

939
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: in a college shirt and.

940
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: Slacks and yeah, everybody laughed at you and said, this

941
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: is radio. You don't need to do that.

942
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I was like, no, I'm really serious

943
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 3: about what I'm doing. I want to like kind of

944
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 3: do this, I'm serious about it, and they're like, oh,

945
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 3: Holland's whatever, you know, come in and do radio kid

946
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: and I you know, but yeah, no, Michael carried me

947
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: through the show. I always always remember that man, So.

948
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: We'll get into him in a moment. But yeah, I

949
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: mean some of these moves, there's going to be stories

950
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: behind the scene. There might be an old trade and

951
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: old free agency move, maybe a disclosure of information right

952
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: injuries and histories and what a guy's got going on

953
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: off the court that doesn't come up in conversations and

954
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: suddenly becomes your problem. Yeah, those have long institutional memories.

955
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 2: Even if some of the principal players as far as

956
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: the GM Scouts whatever, move on, the organization remains because

957
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: as you notice, and that was one of the big

958
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: deals about the Donald Sterling oustering, was that you don't

959
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: have a lot of turnover in terms of ownership groups. Now,

960
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: it's curious at this time when we're talking about negotiating

961
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: new rights for broadcasts or whatever that Cuban got out

962
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: of his interest in the Mavericks and now we're talking

963
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: about the sale of the Celtics, So that's kind of curious.

964
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: But in general, we're talking about. You know, the base

965
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: of these organizations stays the same. So if you got

966
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: burned somewhere along the way, guess what, you're not looking

967
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: to help the other guy out or team.

968
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: No, And they they definitely weren't.

969
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: He definitely did not help. Bryan Hollins, what chapter is

970
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: that in your book?

971
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 4: Oh?

972
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: That that that that I might lead off with that one?

973
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna we'll talk that through. I'll help facilitate.

974
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: I got questions because there's plenty behind the scenes. I'm

975
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: sure you gave us a nice synopsis. And any former

976
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: UH player and any sport I'm sure has similar tales

977
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: along the way of that one that either got away

978
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: the opportunity or the the opportunity to find themselves that

979
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: proper situation. He's Ryan Hollins, I'm buy carbon here Fox

980
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio from the Tirac dot Com studios,

981
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: and coming up next alluded to it. Mike Thompson versus

982
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: Michael Thompson. Michael Thompson was not happy where his where

983
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: his son ended up A lot of money, a lot

984
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: of opportunity, but not in the Purple and Gold. We'll

985
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: talk about that coming up next. As free agency churns

986
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday,

987
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmen alongside Ryan Hollinds at the

988
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollinds at Swollen Dome at Fox Sports Radio, where

989
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 2: you find us. We're talking heroes, villains and changing things up.

990
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: We've got a couple of entries in Kawhi Leonard. The

991
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: aforementioned Kawhi Leonard came in after his departure from San

992
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: Antonio to Toronto, so still some saltiness there, so thanks

993
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: to Robert for chiming in with that. We got Brett

994
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: Favre showing up in a Viking uniform after spending that

995
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: small time with the New York Football Jets, you know,

996
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: because they wouldn't send them straight to Minnesota again out

997
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: of spite. See spites a big word it is. And

998
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: there's a promo running that has me saying, you know,

999
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 2: pettiness knows no tax bracket. Same thanks, SPIKEE. How do

1000
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: you like that?

1001
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: I like that?

1002
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 2: That was wow.

1003
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 3: Put that on a T shirt. I'm wear it.

1004
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: All right, I'm in. Let's get that design going, guys.

1005
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: Time for Harmon Inc. Part Two to float through a

1006
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: couple others that I thought of, and the guys are

1007
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 2: going to chime in with theirs in a little bit,

1008
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: but one that went from my squad to another, Chris

1009
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: Chellio's bring the hockey fans in when he leaves the

1010
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: Blackhawks and ends up going and dominating with the Red Wings.

1011
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: That still doesn't sit well. A lot of Chelli's chili

1012
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: bars that came out of that, so that's good for business,

1013
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: as Burfet raises his arm. But yeah, it's that kind

1014
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: of thing. So if you have any thoughts guys leaving

1015
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: from one team to another that still sticks in your

1016
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: craw and then we'll get into a little goat conversation

1017
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: that's coming up in about twenty minutes, so chime in

1018
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: in the Twitter verse. We appreciate you. We'll get the

1019
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: laundry list up as we celebrate heroes and villains, we

1020
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: get into the Mike Mike Michael Thompson kind of thing

1021
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier. But Michael Thompson, father of Clay,

1022
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: wasn't happy because he thought well and he was hoping

1023
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: eventually Clay would find his way into a Laker jersey.

1024
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: As he was getting ready to depart the Golden State Warriors. Instead,

1025
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 2: he's now a member of the Dallas Mavericks and and

1026
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: a new look there. So we've got a couple of

1027
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: parts to this. But first Steve Kerr addressing Clay and

1028
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: his history as Team USA assembled, and I saw them

1029
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: called the Avengers multiple times as folks were walking and

1030
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: getting together. We'll get into that team dynamic in a bit,

1031
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: but here's Steve Kerr on Clay Thompson.

1032
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 11: The biggest thing is the relationships endure, the memories endure.

1033
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 11: You know, Clay's gonna have a statue outside Chase someday.

1034
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 11: He'll be beloved by his teammates and coaches and our

1035
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 11: fans forever. And yeah, it's it's never easy, but it's

1036
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 11: all gonna I think it'll all work out for of them.

1037
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 2: Started dialing up a little. The memory remains by Matte

1038
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: in his verbiage there. But uh, you know, when we

1039
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: look at Klay Thompson at this point, what's Dallas getting.

1040
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 3: They're getting, my opinion, the second greatest shooter that's ever lived.

1041
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: I think Clay is that good.

1042
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 9: You know.

1043
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: The struggle is, wait, is.

1044
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: It his teammate that's number one? Or his ex teammate

1045
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: now or do you have someone off the board.

1046
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 3: No, easy, easy, Steph. You're crazy if you don't think

1047
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 3: Steph Curry is the greatest shoot.

1048
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: I was hoping you were going hot take nonsense and

1049
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: coming up with some random guy that you like.

1050
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 3: No, no, no, why well listen some people or something.

1051
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1052
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: Some people be mad at me for putting Clay at

1053
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 3: number two, and it's it's pretty much through it in

1054
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: my opinion, not that we want to deep dive into this,

1055
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: but it's it's through his career. You know, Larry Bird

1056
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 3: wasn't coming down to the court shooting pull up threes.

1057
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: You know that that wasn't the style of play back then.

1058
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: You know, Ray Allen got his shots up, but he

1059
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: didn't get as many shots. I mean, Curry broke his

1060
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: record almost you know immediately, you know, and that's that's

1061
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: not a Ray's fault, you know, that's just the way

1062
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: again changed.

1063
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the mid range into three point shooting, absolutely.

1064
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: But the struggle with Dallas bringing in Clay is, yes,

1065
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: now you can't help on Luca, you can't help off

1066
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 3: the corners. But defensively, Clay is not what he once was.

1067
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: And we'll see if they end up taking a step

1068
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: back because Derek Jones Junior had much improved in the

1069
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 3: shooting category. He was a really really good defender man

1070
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 3: and he changed a lot of games with his activity.

1071
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: So going to see what they can bring to the

1072
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: table with Clay, they've got to defend. And the Dallas

1073
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: they took immense leaps, not offensively, but on the defensive ends.

1074
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: So I think there is a worry there. They're gonna

1075
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 3: have to be able to defend. And then, you know,

1076
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 3: I think what Golden State also ran into with Clay

1077
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: is you know, Clay not accepting necessarily that he's not

1078
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: the same player. So we'll just have to keep an

1079
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: eye on that, you know. But as from a shooting standpoint,

1080
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 3: Dallas definitely got better. They got a winner, they got

1081
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 3: a guy who had been there before. And you know, Mike,

1082
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: we spoke about this was the biggest difference in the finals.

1083
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't just the Celtics depth, it was now they

1084
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 3: were the more experienced team, and Clay brings in what experience.

1085
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: And a nice boat that he can take people out

1086
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: on the water. Because when I just saw plenty of

1087
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: clips of that for his career, nearly twenty five hundred

1088
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: three point makes to your point, just to put the

1089
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 2: specificity on it. Curry now at thirty seven forty seven.

1090
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: Ray Allen finished his career with twenty nine seventy three,

1091
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: rounding out the top five hardened Lillard and Reggie Miller,

1092
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: Clay Thompson sitting at sixth all time in terms of

1093
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: three point makes. But yeah, that's the question. Defensively, you

1094
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: know how hide somebody and Luca gave you some effort

1095
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: for anetic at times, and we know that that's a

1096
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: was a big knock on his game. And as much

1097
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: as Kleiba coming back healthy, PJ. Washington coming over and

1098
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: Lively as a rookie was fantastic. You know, the Western

1099
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 2: Conference all the way through, We've talked about it a lot, Ryan,

1100
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean, there there's no easy game on the schedule,

1101
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: and when you look at that side of the bracket anymore,

1102
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: as teams like Houston and San Antonio and others are

1103
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: revving up, Sacramento making some moves to try to bolster

1104
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,959
Speaker 2: their their chances and and get past that five hundred mark.

1105
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: You know, I had a lot of expectations and now

1106
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: reset a little bit. The six teams sign and trade,

1107
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: which I think is fun. I'm not gonna take the

1108
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,479
Speaker 2: nine minutes to read up about what right, because that's Clay,

1109
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: that's de Rozen, that's all these guys as you go through.

1110
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: But let let's go to the Warriors then. So for

1111
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr, you know, one of the things he's had

1112
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: to try to balance and obviously you know successfully to

1113
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: a point is the riding out the final years of

1114
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: what you had in this golden age of Warriors basketball

1115
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: with Steph and Clay and Draymond and and Steph remains

1116
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: and and Draymond. When when Draymond is engaged in being

1117
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: Draymond still a highly effective player on both ends of

1118
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: the court. We can stipulate to that. But you're trying

1119
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: to win while also trying to plan for the future.

1120
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: You brought in a rookie this last year that gave

1121
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: you some big, big minutes in big shots, and now

1122
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: you bring in Buddy Healed, who was the apple of

1123
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: the Laker fans eyes for what three trade deadlines in

1124
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: a row, and now he becomes a member of the Warriors.

1125
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: Now they changed their nickname. Now, I guess so Splash Brothers.

1126
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: You say goodbye to that, but you know his arrival

1127
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: how much. And again, the defensive part of it, I

1128
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: guess is really the largest question for Golden State moving

1129
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 2: forward because Buddy Healed and Steph Curry over the last

1130
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: five years are the most efficient three point shooters in

1131
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: the game. Remember Clay missing so much time, dude injury.

1132
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the thing, Golden State they needed to get better,

1133
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: and I think with this move they get better. Clay couldn't.

1134
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 3: It was hard for him to be who he is

1135
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: and now, make no mistake, it's just by youth and

1136
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: by Buddy Hill being able to move around and he's

1137
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: but he's not a great defender, but he's not the

1138
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 3: absolute worst. And Golden State got more depth. That's something

1139
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: that they absolutely needed. And I think from Clay's standpoint

1140
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: that he's looking at it, he's going, Hey, you paid Draymond.

1141
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 3: I'm better than Draymond. Hey I'm I'm I'm what makes

1142
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: you know this deal special? Draymond? Didn't you know make us?

1143
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 3: You know, the Warriors be what the Warriors are, and

1144
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: you know why you know.

1145
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 7: And I'm not speaking no tax bracket, Ryan Hollins, nothing.

1146
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 3: That's not saying what I'm heard. I'm saying my opinion,

1147
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 3: right right, right, right? Hey, what about what about me?

1148
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 3: Why why am I, you know, the odd man out?

1149
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: What did I do to be the odd man out?

1150
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: And then Clay's got to fight with And this is

1151
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 3: this is the real tough place to be in. I'm

1152
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 3: coming off of, you know, two years of being hurt.

1153
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 3: I can't do the same things you know that I

1154
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: used to do. And am I going to accept that?

1155
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 3: Or am I gonna fight against, you know, fight against

1156
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 3: those feelings of trying to be the same guy because

1157
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 3: you got to tell yourself you are the same guy

1158
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: or else guess what, You're gonna be out the league.

1159
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you have to step

1160
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: in with that bullish confidence and that's something that Clay

1161
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: has done. But in all respect, at the end of

1162
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: the day, there's levels where that's maybe hurt Clay, you know,

1163
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: because maybe he you know that that window wind and

1164
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 3: know when to defer. And I got a credit Chris

1165
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 3: Paul in this situation. Mike, I don't know if you agree,

1166
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: because I felt like when Chris Paul finally kind of

1167
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 3: rained in that he wasn't the same player and he said,

1168
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm a mentor guys, and I'm a facilitat get guys

1169
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 3: at basketball. His value skyrocketed.

1170
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: But look look at a lot of what we talked

1171
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: about from the five seed Mavericks this year with Kyrie Irving,

1172
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: there's no question, different guy.

1173
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 3: Yes, he's not saying Luca, get me the darn ball, right.

1174
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: Different mindset, different approach and finding a way to keep

1175
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: your career going. Right. You know what, guys learning to

1176
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 2: shoot on the low block where they hadn't before, Right,

1177
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan doing the turnaround jumper back there because he

1178
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: couldn't blow through the air the same way he did

1179
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: as a younger player. Right, you have to adapt, and

1180
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: pride will screw with you, There's no question about it.

1181
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 3: Right.

1182
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: It's the old pulp fiction thing, you know. Ving Raim's

1183
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: telling Bruce Willis in the boxing part of things. You know,

1184
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: that's that's pride blanket with you at times. And for

1185
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson, tough spot and for the Warriors, you feel

1186
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 2: it to a point, right, You got to make tough

1187
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: choices otherwise you just become a nostalgia act. Particularly if

1188
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: he can't defend, which was as good a shooter as

1189
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: he once was. The defense was what made him elite, right,

1190
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 2: as a two way player. We talked two way a

1191
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: lot more Ryan, I think than we used to. Right,

1192
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 2: It used to be a lot about just scoring averages

1193
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: and then at some point everybody did the math and said, hey,

1194
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: there's one hundred. Guy scored twenty points a game. But

1195
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: for the Warriors moving forward, they also paid Clay a

1196
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 2: lot of money when he was hurt. Right, you know,

1197
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: so the folks that said they didn't do right by him,

1198
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. He did okay for times he couldn't play,

1199
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: And unfortunately it's it's still a business of trying to

1200
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: move forward. Right. The Lakers can take their approach Genie

1201
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: Boston company. That's how they want to build a squad

1202
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: who has power to make decisions, and how you build

1203
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: you know, that's your choice. And as I said, if

1204
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: you want to jump off until Lebron retires, guess what,

1205
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: There'll be a new Lebron like figure that comes in

1206
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 2: and you'll have to decide whether you like the power

1207
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: and control vested in them. Right. Cleveland did it with

1208
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell with what he wanted to do coaching wise,

1209
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: assistant coaches whatever, to placid him again. It's Cleveland, so

1210
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: not getting the same love, although we did get your

1211
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: great story about their pettiness, spite and buyouts a little

1212
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: bit earlier. You got to listen to the whole show.

1213
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 2: But for the Warriors, I'm curious to see what Steve

1214
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: Kerr's got in his bag of tricks for this next

1215
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: iteration and what's left. But recognizing you're not the same player.

1216
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 2: We talk about it in the NFL all the time.

1217
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: You've been a number one wide receiver forever. Guess what,

1218
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: at some point you're not getting stepped, So maybe you've

1219
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: got to become more of the possession guy. Can the

1220
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: ego handle it? Can the you know you look at

1221
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: the the idea of I'm only ranked twentieth of these people.

1222
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking fantasy rankings. We've got plenty of

1223
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: time for that. But just in Genlem when people say

1224
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: here's the best wide receipt, well he was top three

1225
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: two years ago, now he's thirty. I mean, for Klay

1226
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: Thompson and for all players, regardless of sport. Eventually you

1227
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: hit that point where you're not the top dog.

1228
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's it's and i'd say for Clay

1229
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: you know you know it, embrace that mentorship role, you know,

1230
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 3: find that balance you know between your confidence, know what

1231
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 3: you bring to the team, know what you value, and

1232
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 3: you know it's it's a very impressionable team. When I

1233
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: say impressionable, you know, they they kind of need they

1234
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 3: need Clay's experience. And you know, I'm interested to see, uh,

1235
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 3: you know, how it works out with Clay and Luca.

1236
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 3: Those guys compete, you know, they trash talk, they get

1237
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: after you, and I think, you know, Clay can be

1238
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 3: a guy that can you know, provide confidence, you know,

1239
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 3: so to speak to Luca and just like hey, man,

1240
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 3: you're you're the baddest man on the planet. Go do this,

1241
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 3: this and this, and you know he's got enough respect

1242
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 3: that Luca will have to look at him and say, man,

1243
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 3: you know you're right, or like hey, I need to

1244
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 3: work on this or work on that, you know. And

1245
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 3: you know a lot of people say, if you know

1246
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 3: Luca could be more of an efficient shooter, Well, hey,

1247
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 3: Clay's probably one of the greatest shooters to ever do it,

1248
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 3: So you know, that could be a really cool fit there.

1249
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 3: But I'm extremely intrigued to see how this works out.

1250
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: See if he can rediscover some of the magic because

1251
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: the last time we saw Clay that was not Klay

1252
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: Thompson on that court and that zero for ten performance.

1253
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: No question about one thing that we do know is

1254
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 2: that he gets to save ten percent in terms of

1255
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: his state taxes. So good for him. Now it's time

1256
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: to give our our man, Isaac Loewencron the floor. Lots

1257
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: going on in the sporting universe, had Isaac Lowancron, where

1258
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: are you final? Hi I Low?

1259
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 9: Hello, Mike and Ryan, and indeed most of it going

1260
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 9: on in the NBA, where the big news overnight six

1261
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 9: time All starred DeMar DeRozan sogning a three year, seventy

1262
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 9: six million dollars deal with the Sacramento Kings. All that

1263
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 9: facilitated via a three team sign and trade that'll send

1264
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 9: Chris Dwarte to the Chicago Bulls and Harrison Barnes to

1265
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 9: the San Antonio Spurs. In the NBA Summer League. On Saturday,

1266
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 9: Sacramento defeated the Los Angeles Lakers What Away to ninety four.

1267
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 9: Bronni James got the start for the Lakers. He played

1268
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 9: twenty two minutes, scored four points, was two of nine

1269
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 9: from the field, had three rebounds to assist, did not

1270
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 9: commit a turnover or personal foul. In Major League Baseball

1271
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 9: on Saturday night, the Arizona Diamondbacks won at San Diego

1272
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 9: in ten innings, seven to five. Rockies over the Royals

1273
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 9: three to one, a three game winning streak for Colorado.

1274
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 9: Show Hey o'tani is twenty eighth home run in the

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Speaker 9: Dodgers five three win over the Milwaukee Brewers. Finally, in soccer,

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Speaker 9: on Saturday night, in the quarterfinals of the Copa America,

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Speaker 9: in a match played at Allegiance Stadium in Vegas, Uruguay

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Speaker 9: knocked off Brazil on penalty kicks four to two after

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Speaker 9: finishing extra time in a scoreless tie. Here is how

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Speaker 9: Uruguays shootout winning penalty kick goals sounded on Radio Uruguay

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Speaker 9: with Fabian Bertolini at the mic, and listen closely because

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Speaker 9: some of these South American countries, when their team scores

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Speaker 9: a goal, they celebrate by playing a soundtrack in the background.

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 9: When Columbia scores a goal, they play techno music on

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Speaker 9: their broadcast. So they played background music here to celebrate

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Speaker 9: Uruguay's penalty kick winning goal.

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Speaker 10: Chevys Hervey pres.

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Speaker 9: So, I don't know what that song was in the background.

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01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 9: I don't think it was the Uruguay national anthem, but

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Speaker 9: still an interesting touch. Mike and Ryan.

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Speaker 2: A lot of bass going on there. I love before

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Speaker 2: we go, I asked for this one to be available.

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01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: I was listening to you and your call Angel City

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 2: in Gotham yesterday nw s L action a two to

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01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: one tough le loss for Angel City once again. But

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Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up your call at the Rose

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Speaker 2: Lavelle goal.

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Speaker 5: Ryan.

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Speaker 9: This this is expertise right here. Sorry, I I hate

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01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 9: to say it, but I got the wrong goal. I'll find.

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 2: I decided to go to your call, so obviously you

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01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 2: decided that was the call you wanted to America better.

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Speaker 9: Oh boy, I'm a little ethically confused here on what

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 9: I should do. I can find the Roosevelt call for you.

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 9: It'll take like forty five seconds. If you want to

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01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 9: go back to it or go back later, we will

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01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 9: come back to sounds good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ilo. Sorry I did I found the perfect call.

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: It was beautiful, it was energetic, and the thing I

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01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 2: liked about it it was for the opponent and he

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Speaker 2: still gave it the requisite love and attention that it

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01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 2: should have been and That's one of the things I

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Speaker 2: liked about it most is that Ilo in the booth

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Speaker 2: calls it as he sees Rick Flair, one of the

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01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 2: greats of all time. We're going to go into goat

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01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: conversation in the wrestling world in a second. H called

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01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 2: it as he as he saw it, not as a

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 2: homer going uh oh, because he could have very easily

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01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 2: done that. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm by Karmen speaking of that.

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Speaker 2: Let's do some a little goat conversation because well, there's

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01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: a retirement that was announced in sports entertainment and once

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01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: again it kind of rocks the world expected but still

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Speaker 2: kind of sad. We'll get into that next as we

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Speaker 2: continue on Fox Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Mike Carmen, Ryan Hollins with you here live

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Speaker 2: Fromthetirac dot Com studios. Coming up at about ten minutes,

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01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: we'll get back into some NBA, some NFL talk as

1329
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: we get into the final throws ahead of training camp

1330
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 2: and while most of free agency Summer League action takes

1331
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: its next step to Vegas the end of the week,

1332
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 2: where we visit a little bit of Brownie James debut

1333
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 2: yesterday he and Dalton connect as the Lakers fell to

1334
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: the Kings. Kings also in the news with DeMar DeRozan.

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01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 2: So a lot of that flowing as we go. But

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01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 2: yesterday money in the bank, Ryan Hollins and me being

1337
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: the nerd that I am leaving no pop culture reference

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01:14:54,920 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 2: or sports entertainment reference stone unturned. We have the the

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01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 2: retirement announcement. As part of the surprise, Tris Stratus comes

1340
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: out Hall of Famer legend. She's the hostess for the event,

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01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 2: and then they played John Cena's music and he drops

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01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 2: this announcement on us. Tonight, I officially announced my retirement

1343
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 2: from the WWWEE. He went on to kind of laugh

1344
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: because I remember going to events where his music would

1345
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 2: start playing and people would sing along with John Cena sucks,

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01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: and then the other folks were losing their mind that

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01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 2: they were great. What do you got, Chris?

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01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, If John Cena announces his retirement but nobody can

1349
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 8: see him, did he really retire?

1350
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: That's deep because he was wearing the you can't see

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01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 2: me gear. Questions here. It was good because he had

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01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: he had a little of that punniness in his uh

1353
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: in his Q and a after that went on forever.

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: I gotta imagine if I was one of the other

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01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 2: four people waiting for him to finish his Q and A.

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01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 2: I was kind of mad at the WWEPR folks for

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01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 2: letting him go first. But that was a brilliant question.

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01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 2: You should put that up in the Twitter verse because

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01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of it quite that way. But immediately

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01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: he's been goaded by many people, and so that becomes

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01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: the interesting part. Over the course of his career, all

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 2: the championship, all the big moments, all the different personas,

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01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: all of these things say nothing of his Hollywood career,

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01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: which is he's a pretty funny guy. He's shown up

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01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: in a bunch of movies and has his comedic moments,

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01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 2: and he's keeper Peacemaker, Yeah, peacemaker or peacekeeper, right?

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01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 3: You got?

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01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 2: Season one is done, Season two on the Come, Suicide Squad,

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01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: all of that stuff that flows through. He's showed up

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01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: in some comedies, So you got that. So I ask,

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Speaker 2: you know, since he's been crowned the goat by Michael

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01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 2: Cole and many many in the WWE circles, do you

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01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: have a goat Ryan Hollins in the wrestling world.

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Speaker 3: Oh? Do I have a goat in the wrestling world,

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01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 3: I think you're always biased to the generation that you

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01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 3: grew up in. Oh, of course, And I think Hogan

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 3: held that title for a while we talked about earlier.

1378
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 3: I think some off of the matt incidences kind of

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01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 3: pulled me back.

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01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: From holding you away from there again from Hogan.

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01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 3: But if I'm going to have a goat, I'm going

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01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 3: to go out the Rock. And I don't think The

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01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 3: Rock's wrestling career was necessarily up there with the others

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01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 3: that I grew up with, and obviously the nostalgia of

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01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,959
Speaker 3: your childhood, but I think his longevity and his impact

1386
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 3: and the doors that he opened off the mat, I

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01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: give the goat title to The Rock for me.

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Speaker 2: What do you got, Chris Praphett?

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Speaker 8: So I do have to first give a nod to

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01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 8: my friend Ryan Matthews, my former podcast co host. He

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01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 8: would always if he was here, he'd probably say Shawn Michaels,

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01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 8: because Shawn Michaels I think paved the way for these

1393
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 8: kind of big personalities like that we talk about, like

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,440
Speaker 8: The Rock. But for me, as someone who always appreciated

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01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 8: like all the different scenes, I've always appreciated Ray Mysterio

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01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 8: kind of underrated in that. In that, like after raymis

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01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 8: before and after Raymisterio came, you saw the the influx

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01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 8: of importation of Luca Libra, like I remember actually watching.

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01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 8: I think it was like Luca Underground. It was on

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01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 8: Robert Rodriguez's channel, and which was phenomenal. It was like

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01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 8: Mortal Kombat the TV series, but they brought in Ray

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01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 8: Masterio and he was basically treated like a god, the

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01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 8: founding father who allowed all of this southern California scene

1404
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,879
Speaker 8: to happen because he popular lie or popularized massed wrestling

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01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 8: north of the border.

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01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: Well, the other part to it is the way he

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01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: flew around. Look, he's also not six seven whatever, but

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01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 2: you know the athleticism that you know in the high

1409
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: flying tactics kind of flow out of Raymisterio as well.

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01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 2: For me, I go back to the Road Warriors, uh,

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01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 2: the tag team of course, and always partial, even though

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01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 2: he was more a brawler than a tactician of rowdy

1413
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 2: rowdy piper. Those are the guys that's in. You know,

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01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: you had to have Mike skills if you were gonna

1415
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 2: get my attention, which is what led me to this

1416
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: path of being a talking head and screaming into a

1417
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: micro microphone as well. Crandell Ian Wrestling moved the needle

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01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 2: for you. You got a goat in any of this?

1419
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: Or do you just tap out? It has to be

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01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 2: John Cena because he's like maybe the only wrestler I've

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01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 2: heard of that and you want to wear jeorts? Okay,

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01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 2: Crandell anybody for him?

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01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: The rock?

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01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 2: You got the rock? Is Ilo going to chime in?

1425
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 2: Does he have a wrestler?

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01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 9: All y'all are insane? It can't be anyone but Hull Cogan,

1427
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 9: nobody else but Hulcoch.

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01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: I've heard of more wrestlers than I thought that. There

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01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: you go, there's your whole Cogan continue that on Twitter

1430
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: at swallowing do I'm coming back? We go into the

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01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings and Brownie James.

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Speaker 1: Dor listen no Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Green Eggs talking in final hour of the program for

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Speaker 2: us today here Fox Sports Sunday by Carmen, Ryan Hollins

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Speaker 2: and you America and globally, as we talk all things

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Speaker 2: of the sporting landscape. Some more NBA for you here

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Speaker 2: even overseas. Checking in on the boys. As I was

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Speaker 2: traveling abroad this past week to see what kind of

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Speaker 2: stories and lies Smith was telling about my whereabouts, because

1448
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 2: that's what he does, Hollands what he does. All of

1449
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Speaker 2: a sudden, he had some things where I'm pulling off

1450
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Speaker 2: capers and crazy stuff, and I don't know, it's a

1451
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: whole thing he's got with me and my family take

1452
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Speaker 2: some left turns.

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Speaker 3: I'm impressed. Seems like you really didn't miss a beat

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01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 3: while you were gone. I felt like you were gone,

1455
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 3: but you weren't gone. How did you find a way

1456
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: to keep up?

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01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's always a little bit of downtime.

1458
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: We're riding the underground, so whenever you did pop up,

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01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 2: you know, and you'd have that moment of connectivity. I'd

1460
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: find my way back into the Twitter verse just to

1461
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 2: kind of scroll and keep apprized of what was going on.

1462
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: I debated doing a video series where I'd just start

1463
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: doing random one minute two minute rants while while in Europe,

1464
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 2: but I thought my daughters might have taken me out

1465
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: if I decided to work truly get into work stuff.

1466
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 2: So I got to do it a little a little

1467
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Speaker 2: more on the sly right, did hitching a lot of soccer,

1468
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 2: keeping apprized of headlines, and then you know, getting back

1469
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Speaker 2: into the touristy stuff we were doing.

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Speaker 3: Did you listen in last Sunday? I get the feeling

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Speaker 3: you did.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 2: I got a minute a couple minutes of it. We

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01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 2: were out and about were That was right before we

1475
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: left for the Swift concert. When you add the time

1476
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: zone difference and everything else. So yeah, I mean, you know,

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01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: I gotta look, I gotta see what's going on. You know, well, look,

1478
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: I love what we were able to do here A

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01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 2: blessed to do it, and you know, sometimes and that

1480
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Speaker 2: was one of the things from the reset right, the

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Speaker 2: mental health side of it. And I posted about this

1482
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: on Instagram with a cool picture of the train leaving

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01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: the station we made the last train. One of the

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Speaker 2: things we did, my daughters and I we went and

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Speaker 2: checked out Phantom of the Opera in the West End, right,

1486
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: and it just so happened. People, we can never seem

1487
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: to find the time here in La and Ryan, you

1488
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: lived in La. You know how it is. It's like

1489
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 2: you know that thirty miles might as well be across

1490
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 2: the country. Sometimes yeah, we'll get together and it doesn't happen.

1491
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: The final day we were in London, we actually saw

1492
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,560
Speaker 2: a guy that I worked with at at Yahoo and

1493
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 2: then for Fox Sports dot Com. His family in Tew

1494
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: while he was working, so we met up with them

1495
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: at the British Museum. Later on that night, one of

1496
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 2: my daughter's best friends, Schedules just don't run and sync.

1497
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 2: Their family were out on a trip, so we she

1498
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 2: met up with her friend and they were hanging out.

1499
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, after the show, you go do

1500
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do. They ended up eating and hanging

1501
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: out and like, all right, I'll take the train back.

1502
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: Last train locking it down, and I had a guy

1503
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: who assed me because I was wearing a Bears pull over. Guy.

1504
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: Group of seven guys, it's like, hey, Lions are gonna

1505
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 2: kick you, and they start getting deep into it and

1506
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is awesome. And then we started

1507
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: talking football for the rest of the train ride. Didn't

1508
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 2: you know until my stopball American football. So like the

1509
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: things that came up a lot American football again, wearing

1510
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 2: the Bears hoodie. You know, you're running into people traveling

1511
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: from the US. So I found some Viking fans at

1512
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: the museum, a lot of Lions fans. Seems like they

1513
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: have been adopted by some portion of the the lunch

1514
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: did in US set, so that was kind of cool

1515
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: to see. So Chris, I mean you would know this

1516
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: as well as anybody you know in terms of your

1517
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: metrics on your Proude of Detroit work.

1518
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was gonna say part of that is probably

1519
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 8: like the connection of Lions with you know, England, their

1520
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 8: teams are all Lions. But also shout out to my

1521
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 8: friends were the Lions UK. I know those guys like

1522
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,799
Speaker 8: they have a whole podcast series, like a whole British

1523
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 8: bunch of guys all across UK got together made this podcast.

1524
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,879
Speaker 8: I know they are kind of kings of that entire community.

1525
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 8: So it's it's it's a thing. It's absolutely thing.

1526
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: It was interesting the number of people, like other of

1527
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 2: them talked that there was.

1528
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 8: Like a game in twenty fifteen or twenty fourteen, I

1529
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 8: forget which where Lions played Falcons in London and that

1530
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 8: game came down to like a field goal and that

1531
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 8: was the first game that wasn't a blowout in in Wembley.

1532
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 8: That was like a less game kind of kicking. Yeah,

1533
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 8: and they they love the ending. I think that that

1534
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 8: did lead a lot of British people to adopt the

1535
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 8: Lions as their team.

1536
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: I found it odd that, but there it is. There's

1537
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: the history and so a little of that. And then

1538
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 2: folks wanted to engage in politics because we showed up

1539
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: in Dublin right after the presidential debates, so a lot

1540
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 2: of folks wanted to do that. We will not do

1541
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 2: politics here. We will keep our keep the line moving

1542
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: in the world of sports. But fun trip, got a

1543
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 2: lot done, went and saw some Gaelic football to Ryan Hollins. Wow,

1544
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 2: so they were moving into the finals of the league.

1545
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: They're not pros, but they had fifty thousand people at

1546
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: the stadium, stadium seats eighty thousand. Fantastic one point win.

1547
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 2: Galway over Dublin. But the thing I saw and I

1548
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 2: wanted to get your opinion on this, because this was great.

1549
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: The best player for Galway, who's just dominant and all

1550
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 2: these guys are built like middle linebackers running around and

1551
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: he gets hurt, right, he's clearly pulled a hammy or

1552
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: a quad and medical treatment comes back out on the field.

1553
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 2: But get this, the game doesn't stop playing while this

1554
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: guy's getting medical attention. It gets to the other on

1555
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 2: the field. On the field, he's on the pitch and

1556
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: they got tending to his legs, stretching him out, massaging

1557
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 2: his leg like two three minutes. I'm like, what is

1558
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: going on. My daughters are looking at me, going dad,

1559
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, this is great, and the people

1560
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: in front of me go, yeah, we don't see that

1561
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 2: that often. But he's that important that they didn't want

1562
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,959
Speaker 2: to take him off, and it was like it was amazing.

1563
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 2: And my brother's friends who met up with us, they

1564
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 2: were telling us before the match how integral and what

1565
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 2: a star this guy was for this team, and to

1566
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 2: watch his movement and how he played, and so we've

1567
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: been really paying attention in the whole game. And then

1568
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 2: now it was. He was so important that he didn't

1569
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 2: even come off the pitch. Now, eventually when the ball

1570
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: came back and he had to to try to make

1571
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: a move that you saw the first attempt at a

1572
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 2: cut that was it eventually tagged out, but for a

1573
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 2: couple of minutes like all right, game action continues. Wow,

1574
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 2: while my man was getting attention on the field. That

1575
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:00,879
Speaker 2: was interesting.

1576
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 3: So they'd rather risk him.

1577
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 2: Because it's fifteen on fifteen, so now they're playing fifteen

1578
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 2: on fourteen, So rather than sub him off, I guess

1579
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 2: they thought the we could do the war totals wins

1580
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 2: and replacements and go from there that they thought they

1581
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 2: had the better chance to finish with him on. They

1582
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: ended up winning the match and moving on, and we

1583
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 2: paid attention to that and a little bit of hurling

1584
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: in the amateur ranks. But yeah, I mean that was

1585
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: one of the highlights of the trip, randomly going to

1586
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 2: see some Gaelic football, and of course we ended up

1587
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: going to a racetrack because well that's what we do,

1588
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: which was kind of fun as well. A lot of

1589
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 2: life and activity packed into six days. I say it

1590
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 2: not to say, hey, look what I did, but more

1591
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: so to try to advise you to do the same

1592
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 2: however it is, even if it's just walk around the

1593
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 2: block to clear your head, get your of right, and

1594
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: get ready for whatever the next thing is on your docket.

1595
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: Blessed to be able to do it. Blessed to have

1596
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Jason sit in with you last week, Ryan and you

1597
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: you guys being so gracious and always good to come

1598
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: back to the chair and find my radio family waiting.

1599
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were waiting and ready. But you know, I was,

1600
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you. You don't take a lot of

1601
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 3: time off, no, you know, so I'm I'm I was like, good, good,

1602
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 3: you deserve it.

1603
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 2: Man, Well I appreciate that. Yeah, little bit of a rarity,

1604
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 2: you know, where the schedules actually synced up, and then

1605
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 2: we packed a lot in. We saw the Abba Show too,

1606
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 2: So if you want to go watch Holograms and and

1607
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: get all emotional to Abba songs, you could do that too.

1608
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 2: Live band in London that was kind of fun too.

1609
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 2: So there you go. There's some of the highlights. I

1610
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 2: was not arrested, I was not expelled from the country.

1611
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: All of those things that Smith tried to tell you

1612
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: during the meet on Fox Sports Radio are wrong and

1613
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 2: erroneous to that end. Let's get back into the business

1614
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: that is the NBA. We'll talk a little Brownie James

1615
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: coming up in about ten minutes from now. But DeMar

1616
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 2: DeRozan goes to the Sacramento Kings three years somewhere between

1617
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 2: seventy four seventy six million dollars. Now we're just quibbling

1618
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: about a couple of dollars, a couple of cents. You

1619
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: add the Spurs in here and the Bulls as it were.

1620
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 2: But the Bulls incomplete whatever mode, as it's been since

1621
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight. But except for that one year with

1622
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 2: Derek Rose, I really shouldn't dismiss that one. That was

1623
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: a fun year when he was the MVP. But Sacramento

1624
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 2: a team that there was a lot of expectation this

1625
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: past year and now they make this move. Still a

1626
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 2: lot of wondering about if there are some other moves

1627
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: with their roster in effect. But you get a guy

1628
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 2: that averaged twenty four points four and five for a

1629
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: Bulls team that was well disappointing would be the kind

1630
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 2: way to say it. But for the Kings trying to

1631
01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: rise up in the West, how much does this move

1632
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: the needle for them at all.

1633
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 3: Well, they get a bona fide. You know, hey, first, second,

1634
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 3: third option, whatever you'd like to do. You know, the

1635
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 3: pick and roll is the first thing they do. Then

1636
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 3: they play through uh, you know, through Sibonis. But I

1637
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 3: think with DeRozan, you get a guy who can go

1638
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 3: one on one, you get a winner. He's clutch, and

1639
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 3: it seemed like the Bulls were just excuse me, the

1640
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 3: Kings were in a spot where they're one of those

1641
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 3: young and exciting teams, and as good of a year

1642
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 3: as they had, it seemed like they kind of took

1643
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 3: a took a step backwards. So I think DeRozan's at

1644
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 3: a point where he wants to win now, and it's

1645
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 3: an excellent pickup. They don't need to get any younger.

1646
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: They need to get a guy who can win, and

1647
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 3: I think DeMar DeRozan definitely gives them a shot. So uh,

1648
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 3: I do I really liked I really like the Kings,

1649
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 3: I do. I like what they bring to the table.

1650
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 3: I like the speed that they play at. I think

1651
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 3: they have a chance to take over the Bay if now,

1652
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 3: if not ever, you know, because they were always in

1653
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 3: the you know, in the Warriors shadow and I don't

1654
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 3: think they overtake him, but at least for the year,

1655
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 3: for the season, and it seemed like they always had

1656
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,799
Speaker 3: these these games where they'd match up with the Warriors

1657
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 3: as good as they wearing. The Warriors were kind of like,

1658
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 3: I'm still big brother, So they can this move, can

1659
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 3: you know, push them over the hope? So to speak

1660
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,879
Speaker 3: up up north, and I think that I'm happy for tomorrow.

1661
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's what what fifty minutes or so a

1662
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 3: flight away from LA and you know, I'm excited for

1663
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 3: him to get back to the West coast.

1664
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 4: Man.

1665
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 3: You got you gotta think I played up in Sacramento

1666
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 3: into a lot of you know, so cow stuff going

1667
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 3: on up there. So I am I'm happy for tomorrow. Man,

1668
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm ecstatic for him. But I think, you know, he'll

1669
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 3: be happy. And he came out. I'm not sure if

1670
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 3: you saw it to you know, Tams and not like

1671
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 3: us being played so.

1672
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah the music video. Oh and he was on stage.

1673
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 2: We talked about that two weeks ago, right that big

1674
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:07,520
Speaker 2: show on Juneteenth.

1675
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 3: I'm big on you know, guys being celebrated that have

1676
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 3: put it in work, and I feel like there is

1677
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:19,480
Speaker 3: in you almost get the feeling that Damar is being celebrated,

1678
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 3: you know, and he wasn't always you know, heralded for

1679
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 3: as good as he was, you know, and not just

1680
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 3: known for kind of being the lakers third option. I

1681
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 3: think that's what they wanted, you know, they wanted from him.

1682
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 3: Everybody wanted you know, hey, he's gonna come to the Lakers.

1683
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 3: You know, all those teams were looking for him. So

1684
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 3: I think he still gets a chance to carve out

1685
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 3: his own destiny because if he went to LA, you know,

1686
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 3: it'd have been exciting friends and family there, but it

1687
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 3: would have been kind of the Lebron and Ad show.

1688
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 3: But I think if he goes and wins there, he

1689
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: can be known as the piece. He can be the guy.

1690
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 2: You know, well because coming to LA, let's face it,

1691
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 2: you you're not going to get the glory. If they win,

1692
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 2: You'll get a little bit of love in local radio

1693
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: and TV and whatever, but ultimately it's well, Lebron got over,

1694
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 2: Ad got over, and if you lose, well it becomes

1695
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 2: let's blame all the auxiliary guys that that failed to

1696
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 2: live up to this that the other, because I mean

1697
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 2: that's all they did. After the Lakers got eliminated from

1698
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs once again and a you know, a more

1699
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 2: competitive series, but you know, same result when you when

1700
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 2: you look at it, like how many guys are like, well,

1701
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 2: these guys were hurt and this role player didn't step

1702
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 2: up in this, and it's like no, no, no. In

1703
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 2: the end, it's it's predicated and built on those two

1704
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 2: guys and what they can do for DeMar Derozen It's

1705
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 2: it's it's clearly as you as you laid it out perfectly.

1706
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 2: It's good to be wanted, right, you could have a nice,

1707
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 2: stable place like in Chicago. They loved him right. Local media,

1708
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know that I've seen a guy

1709
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:50,560
Speaker 2: exit the Chicago market in any of the sports to

1710
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 2: where to a man or woman from radio and television

1711
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 2: went out and just said, hey, we wish him the

1712
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 2: best of luck. That guy was a good guy, guy

1713
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 2: that always gave us time no matter what the team

1714
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 2: was going through, whatever was swirling around. And that's a

1715
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: pretty good place to be to be thought of that way.

1716
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 2: You know, most folks don't get their flowers till unfortunately

1717
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 2: they can't use them or hear them. So he got

1718
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 2: a little out of his way out of Chicago at

1719
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 2: Sacramento with that introduction walking in with the owner. Yeah,

1720
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 2: that's kind of a big deal. Hey, we wanted you

1721
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 2: and this was the chip that we think is going

1722
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 2: to propel us forward. Everybody needs their ego brushed a

1723
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 2: little bit every once in a while. Sunday Morning had

1724
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 2: to use the proper terminology. There, Ryan Allins at the

1725
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins where you find him on Twitter. Find me

1726
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome. Speaking of egos, Speaking of all

1727
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 2: of that stuff, let's get into the Kings and their

1728
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 2: opponent from day one of Summer League fun and excitement,

1729
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 2: the Lakers. Bronnie James makes his introduction Dalton connect Well

1730
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: here from Bronnie James and review what we saw in

1731
01:34:55,400 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 2: expectations going forward as we continue on Fox Sports Sunday, Hey,

1732
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 2: welcome back in Fox Sports or Radio Fox Sports Sunday.

1733
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 2: Mike Harbon alongside Ryan Hollins, having a blast with you

1734
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 2: this morning. Thanks to Chris and crandall Ian and our

1735
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 2: guy Isaac Lowencron for making us sound so pretty this morning.

1736
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 2: We appreciate each and every one of you giving us

1737
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 2: a few minutes of your time. It is not lost

1738
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 2: on us. The number of entertainment and information options you've

1739
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:26,839
Speaker 2: got out there. Maybe you're tracking some f one from England.

1740
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 2: Maybe you've got the Weather Channel on as you're tracking

1741
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 2: tropical storm Barrel Burrel. I've heard it pronounced both ways

1742
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 2: and that was my kid's elementary school here in Los Angeles,

1743
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 2: So you know, it's one of those that we're tracking

1744
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 2: a little bit differently than perhaps other storms. But whatever

1745
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 2: you're doing, be safe out there. We appreciate you being

1746
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 2: part of the family. And remember you can always get

1747
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 2: the show if you missed any of ours or anything

1748
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: else on Fox Sports Radio. The podcast goes up as

1749
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 2: soon as the shows are over. You check it out

1750
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: wherever you download your audio. Look for Fox Sports Radios,

1751
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Weekends right and then go and find Hollins

1752
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 2: and Harmon where we get your podcast. Download it, rate it,

1753
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: review it, tell us how brilliant we are. Tell us

1754
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 2: who your goats are in the world of wrestling, or

1755
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 2: maybe that player from your favorite team that went to

1756
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 2: an alternate and screwed you at the Ryan Hollins at

1757
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 2: Swollen Dome at Fox Sports Radio. One more that I

1758
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 2: want to add for the mind to marinate. How about

1759
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 2: Dennis Rodman leaving the Pistons and eventually showing up as

1760
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 2: a member of the Bulls. That's not good for business.

1761
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 2: That's not making anybody feel all warm and fuzzy on

1762
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 2: either side. Because Dennis Rodman, the epitome Ryan Hollins of

1763
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 2: the guy that while he played against you, you hated

1764
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 2: him and as soon as he became your guy, that's

1765
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 2: my guy.

1766
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you don't like playing against those guys like Rodman,

1767
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 3: absolute monster. Gotta throw in two. As you mentioned, go

1768
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 3: to bait. Sorry to chime back now, hitlaire. Rick Flair

1769
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 3: a name. Sorry, Rick, We didn't mention you.

1770
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean we mentioned him in passing early on.

1771
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 2: But the nature boy certainly is a guy polarizing off

1772
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 2: the matt kind of as you reference with hul Cogan

1773
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 2: a bit. But yeah, Flair always in the goat discussions,

1774
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 2: both on the mic and as a tactician. We were

1775
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 2: talking about random matches. Well, it's about a time my

1776
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 2: brothers and I went to Super Class eighty five. The

1777
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 2: AWA and NWA mixed their promotions and they did this

1778
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 2: a couple of times. But it was that Kimisky Park, Oh,

1779
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 2: Kimisky Park in Chicago, magnum Tia and Rick Flair an

1780
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 2: hour match, an hour wow, no chairs, no cages, no

1781
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 2: outside interference, just two guys getting after it. It's kind

1782
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 2: of crazy, but you know you appreciated wrestling as wrestling was,

1783
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 2: including the spectacle. And anytime you can get forty thousand

1784
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 2: people or more to start who wing alongside you, you've won.

1785
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 2: So you know you always got to get a good

1786
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 2: chant in Flair gets in there, Sean Michaels, you know

1787
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 2: again Family Show. But you know he's a guy that

1788
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 2: likes he's He's got some extra flair with his autograph.

1789
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that. You can look that up

1790
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 2: on your own time. Do not blame me for any

1791
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 2: reaction you have to it. And you know the rock

1792
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 2: you mentioned, Sina referenced as the Goat as he announced

1793
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: his retirement money in the bank yesterday, So you know,

1794
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: all of these names come in Rowdy, Roddy Piper for

1795
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 2: some Randy the Macho Man, Savage. The topic will revisit

1796
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 2: over the course of the week. It's Heroes and Villain's

1797
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 2: Week with Mike Harmon here, Foxborn's Sunday and Ryan Hollins,

1798
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 2: and of course during the week Jason Smith will be

1799
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 2: off this week, so I look forward to the guys

1800
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 2: that will be filling in with me and traversing the

1801
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 2: world of sports and entertainment as always.

1802
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 7: Uh.

1803
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 2: And to that end, the entertainment value of what we

1804
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 2: saw because it was promoted. It was a feature matchup

1805
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 2: in a day of Euro twenty twenty four, Copa America,

1806
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 2: all these different championships across racing and golf, and a

1807
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 2: day of Major League Baseball was the debut of Bronnie

1808
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 2: James Dalton connect against the Sacramento Kings. James four points,

1809
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 2: shooting in efficiency, a couple of defensive plays where he

1810
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 2: got caught up a little bit, and naturally those become

1811
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 2: the rudimentary highlight reel. And for those that want to

1812
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 2: have the art, you know, taking the side of this

1813
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 2: will never work. He's overmatched, out classed, all that stuff.

1814
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: There was your thirty seconds for others. You know, pragmatism

1815
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 2: is a thing I try to practice here, Ryan Hollins,

1816
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 2: But in our business sometimes you need the hot take nonsense.

1817
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 2: But let's just go to Bronnie James and what he

1818
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 2: thought of his debut yesterday.

1819
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 3: Every first game that I you know, step on the

1820
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 3: it's it's always some butterflies in my stomach. But as

1821
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 3: soon as the ball tips and we go a couple times,

1822
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 3: a couple of times down, and then it all goes away,

1823
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:11,560
Speaker 3: and I, you know, just playing basketball. The atmosphere it was,

1824
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 3: you know, more than I expected at it. I mean,

1825
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 3: it's it's it's a big game for me, but I

1826
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,600
Speaker 3: didn't know, you know, people Golden State would come in

1827
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 3: and and and the right for me, So it was

1828
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 3: pretty necessary.

1829
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 2: You go, a little bit of love. And again he

1830
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 2: seems to be taking it all in stride, knowing that

1831
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 2: the poison pens and the venomous tongues will certainly be

1832
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 2: out on him no matter what he does.

1833
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

1834
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 2: In a game, he could have gone six for eight. Uh,

1835
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 2: and I think we would have gotten more of a

1836
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 2: breakdown of the two shots he missed. That being said

1837
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 2: to work in progress, and that's really all I can

1838
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 2: say to it. Right, He's a guy that, you know,

1839
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 2: at this point a bit undersized, but seems game for

1840
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:58,639
Speaker 2: the challenge. And now it's a matter of how much

1841
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 2: they can grow. And in the summer league.

1842
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, listen, Bronnie's gonna be fine at the end

1843
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 3: of the day. And you know the reason there's so

1844
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 3: much cover is gonna be there is, you know, you

1845
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:17,560
Speaker 3: have very strong opinions on both sides. You know, you

1846
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 3: got a group that loves him, and then you got

1847
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 3: a group that's like, well, you're here because your dad, this, this, this,

1848
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 3: this and this, and is it fair to Brownie? No,

1849
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 3: not necessarily, but I heard him made this statement before. Hey,

1850
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 3: I'm my father's son. I kind of expected it. You know,

1851
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it comes with the territory.

1852
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 3: And you know what was interesting is I was at

1853
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 3: our Rockets draft party and this young kid man, I mean,

1854
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 3: he's he's tiny. He comes up to me and you know,

1855
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 3: his mom's like, hey, talk to the guys and you know,

1856
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 3: you know, get to know this and that. And the

1857
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 3: first thing, I mean, he's he's tiny, Mike, he can

1858
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 3: barely speak. The first thing he goes and says, is

1859
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 3: my favorite player is Brownie Jane. I want to see

1860
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 3: Bronnie James. And at that point, Mike, it hit me

1861
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 3: and I go, this ain't about us. It's a it's

1862
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 3: a whole new generation that relates to Bronnie and loves

1863
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 3: Bronnie is going to be rooting for him and seeing

1864
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 3: him and you know, and in me people's eyes, you know,

1865
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 3: Bronni is going to be more popular to a lot

1866
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 3: of the youth than his father. They don't care about

1867
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 3: lebron Bronnie is the next step. Bronnie's there, you know,

1868
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 3: their goat there, you know, their guy. So I think

1869
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 3: it's kind of exciting, you know, exciting to see. But

1870
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 3: for me it was it was a little bit of

1871
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,560
Speaker 3: perspective like, hey, no, man, this Bronnie is is is

1872
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 3: a huge deal, and you got a lot of the

1873
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:51,560
Speaker 3: younger generation that's going to be, you know, pulling for

1874
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 3: him and rooting for him to have his success.

1875
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, you track your guys along the way and

1876
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:00,719
Speaker 2: you find your rooting into with the college game changing

1877
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 2: as it has in the entryway to the NBA much different.

1878
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 2: We you know, we've tracked Bronnie James. How many how

1879
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 2: many players in this year's NBA draft did people really

1880
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 2: get that connection to like we used to in the

1881
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 2: collegiate ranks? Very few, right, I mean people could talk

1882
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 2: about Castle and Zach Edy and maybe five or six

1883
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 2: other guys dealing him the you know, the insane trades

1884
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 2: where it's like yeah, we're trading interests in twenty thirty

1885
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 2: and twenty thirty one. In other words, we owe you

1886
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 2: a favor. But that's another story for another time, for

1887
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 2: trading out draft picks from seven years hence. But you

1888
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 2: know you've got a few guys that break through otherwise,

1889
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 2: Bronnie James story again, going back to whether you like

1890
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,799
Speaker 2: the old man or not. I think to a person,

1891
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 2: there's a coolness factor of it, right. We loved it

1892
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 2: when the Griffies got to play together out of all

1893
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 2: of those kind of things. We love those kind of moments.

1894
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 2: And for Lebrondon, everybody has that. I mean, how many

1895
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 2: stores used to be and son or and daughter or

1896
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 2: and sons and whatever. That legacy of being able to

1897
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 2: pass something down. This is kind of a rare, rare air, right.

1898
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 2: We do have a lot of players whose sons get

1899
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 2: a cup of coffee, maybe daughters playing basketball or volleyball

1900
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 2: or soccer or whatever get get a shot as well.

1901
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 2: But you know, when when it comes down to this,

1902
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 2: all those folks that are really criticizing it in the

1903
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: form of nepotism, remember, you know, the broader term of

1904
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 2: it is you're helping people who we can argue, you

1905
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 2: know the semantics of it, whether they should get a

1906
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 2: shot or not. This means that in your jobs and

1907
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:46,839
Speaker 2: in your personal lives, you will never pick up the phone, text, email,

1908
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 2: call for anybody for a job, for anything, is what

1909
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 2: you're saying, if you're really criticizing this to it's full right,

1910
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 2: because this means, you know what, I kind of like you,

1911
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm really against nepotism. So even though

1912
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 2: I think you'll be perfect for that job, I'm not

1913
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 2: calling you got to earn that on your own. That's

1914
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 2: kind of what you're saying in all of these if

1915
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: you were going to take it to the letter of

1916
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 2: the law and the extremities of it all is that

1917
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 2: you know what, everybody should just get by and at

1918
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 2: no point should you have a helping hand. Yes, the

1919
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 2: James surname helped. Yes, it's going to put butts in seats,

1920
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 2: sell jerseys, sell sherseys, And to your point, Ryan, the

1921
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 2: younger generation as Lebron has his final two years or

1922
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 2: whatever and then moves on to the next run again,

1923
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 2: the note from his contract that he signed for three

1924
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,679
Speaker 2: million dollars fewer than the max he could have kept

1925
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 2: the Lakers under that second apron, so doing a solid

1926
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 2: for Genie Buss and the front office in terms of

1927
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: taxation penalties and draft picks being frozen and all of

1928
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 2: those new rules that came in on this apron thing.

1929
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 2: But for Brownie James, like, the criticism is going to

1930
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 2: be there, the folks that do the same thing for

1931
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 2: his dad, Right, they're gonna stole every move and say

1932
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 2: everything that lebron is great. Well, as we talked about

1933
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,719
Speaker 2: with the Goat conversation, you can go find the podcast

1934
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 2: for all of that. You know, you denigrate others in

1935
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 2: the process, and then there's others that are gonna you know,

1936
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,719
Speaker 2: anything Bronni does is not gonna be good enough because

1937
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 2: he should have never gotten in the door. He was

1938
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 2: the fifty to fifth pick. Fifty fifth pick, the old

1939
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 2: they're taking a job. Remember when j R. Smith went

1940
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 2: back to college and was playing golf and everybody got

1941
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 2: mad like that was the most disingenuous argument ever. They're

1942
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 2: stealing a role from a kid who should be able

1943
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 2: to play. Who the hell cares? That was it North

1944
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 2: Carolina A and T or whatever it was, Like, dude

1945
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 2: had eligibility the opportunity to go play. Why not Tim

1946
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 2: Tebow when he was playing minor league baseball, how much

1947
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 2: more eyeballs were on all the other prospects because he

1948
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 2: was in attendance. Same thing for Brownie James. If this

1949
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 2: gets better ratings on TV for the summer league and

1950
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 2: gives it a little bit of sizzle or for the Lakers,

1951
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 2: you get a little bit of a look see for

1952
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 2: some of these other guys that are crying trying to

1953
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 2: crack a roster because as they pointed out on the

1954
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 2: Telecash yesterday, Ryan, you know, these guys are auditioning for

1955
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:20,959
Speaker 2: every team.

1956
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:23,600
Speaker 3: You know, and it's funny you bring that up. I

1957
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 3: actually had somewhat similar not not a Brownie James, you

1958
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 3: know experience, so to speak. But I remember when I

1959
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 3: was running track, uh not running track. I jumped I

1960
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 3: did you know, high jumping, triple jump and you know,

1961
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 3: after one of the track meets, I was the front

1962
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 3: page because I played on the basketball team at the time.

1963
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 3: And one of my teammates goes, YEA, I don't know

1964
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 3: why they you know why they put you on the

1965
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,880
Speaker 3: front page. You know, we're the ones who've been here,

1966
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 3: you know, we're the ones who you know, who play

1967
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,560
Speaker 3: whatever you know, or kind of had jumped, and I

1968
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 3: was the best jumper. I was the best high jumper

1969
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 3: at the end of the day when it was all

1970
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 3: said and done. But you know his mentality, We've been

1971
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 3: here the whole time. Why do you just step in?

1972
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 4: You know?

1973
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 3: And it was more so I was playing basketball at

1974
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 3: the same time and competing, you know, in track. It

1975
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 3: was a story. And you know, there's this fine line

1976
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:32,959
Speaker 3: between the wealth, I wouldn't say another wealth, the integrity

1977
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 3: of the sports, the x's and o's, you know, of

1978
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 3: the game, and then like, hey, we got to put

1979
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 3: butts in seats, we got to sell tickets. And when

1980
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 3: you get the players who can actually play that have success,

1981
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 3: they take the league, They take the sport to a

1982
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 3: whole new level. Okay, look at WNBA Kaitlin Clark, she

1983
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 3: just had a triple double. Ajew Reese is putting up

1984
01:48:55,720 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 3: double doubles, Okay, setting rookie records with their name. And

1985
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 3: if they put the game to it and they actually

1986
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 3: you know, develop a championship or even All Star caliber

1987
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 3: players and they continue at that pace, they're gonna take

1988
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 3: the league to whole new height. So in terms of

1989
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 3: Bronnie James, man if he has a pinch of success

1990
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 3: in the NBA, a pinch man, he is gonna grow

1991
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 3: the sport immensely and he's gonna really make a name.

1992
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 3: But right now, you know, a lot of the peerists

1993
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 3: are questioning, and you know, I think he's getting questioned

1994
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:28,839
Speaker 3: from different angles. Some people just don't like his father, unfortunately,

1995
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,639
Speaker 3: and it goes on to him, some people legitimately saying, hey,

1996
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 3: why would he get a certain opportunity. You know, a

1997
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,599
Speaker 3: lot of people I don't think given enough him enough credit.

1998
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 3: The guy Bronnie has a minse potential. He is an athlete.

1999
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 3: He's a miniature version of his dad. I mean he

2000
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 3: he is. I mean he listen, man, he can really

2001
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 3: become a player. And I don't think that as you

2002
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 3: talked about him being the fifty fifth pick, I don't

2003
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,640
Speaker 3: think he's gonna be sold as anything more than you

2004
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 3: know what he's not. And trust me, I've seen a

2005
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 3: lot worse fifty IT picks. To shoot. There may be

2006
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 3: some worst first round picks in this draft. And keep

2007
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 3: in mind this is not one of the stronger drafts.

2008
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 3: I'm not making, you know, excuses for Bronnie, but I

2009
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 3: think you know, people are just pointing at the wrong thing.

2010
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 3: And when you get national media, you got a lot

2011
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 3: of people who aren't knowledgeable, you know, fussing about the

2012
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 3: things going on.

2013
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 2: Well, it's what you just mentioned bringing up Caitlin Clark

2014
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 2: and Angel Reese is you know, you got the hero

2015
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 2: and villains being the story of the day. Good guys,

2016
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 2: bad guys. It's all a matter of which side of

2017
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 2: the coin you're looking at. To go back to the

2018
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 2: old Batman thing, and Joe Mizzouli used it going you know,

2019
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 2: with Kyrie Irving when he was going back to play

2020
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 2: against the Celtics. It was like, well, we're all the

2021
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 2: villain in somebody's eyes, right. Angel Reese is growing the game.

2022
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 2: There's a lot of little girls looking up to what

2023
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 2: she's doing, the style and the way she plays and

2024
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 2: her style and how she carries herself. You got the

2025
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark folks. Either way, it's all good for the game.

2026
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 2: We're talking about the game, growing the game, and those

2027
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 2: ratings and metrics all show just that same thing. Ronnie

2028
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 2: James don't know what it is in the ultimate thing,

2029
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 2: and anybody that's trying to do it just wants to

2030
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 2: be able to say I told you so one way

2031
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 2: or the other two to three years from now. If

2032
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 2: that's how you have to live here go, I give

2033
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 2: you my virtual hug with that. Let's give a virtual

2034
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 2: hug to our guy, Isaac Lohenkron with what's going on

2035
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 2: in our sporting universe as Lewis Hamilton is draped in

2036
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 2: a flag and telling me how great he is.

2037
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 9: That's right, that's right, and no one needs to tell

2038
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 9: anybody how great he is because here's just won the

2039
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 9: British Grand Prix for the ninth time again moments ago

2040
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 9: in Formula one racing. Lewis Hamilton winning the British Grand Prix.

2041
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 9: In the NBA, multiple outlets reported that a six time

2042
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 9: All Star DeMar DeRozan is signing a three year, seventy

2043
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 9: six million dollar deal with the Sacramento Kings, facilitated via

2044
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 9: a three team sign and ty that'll send quit Chris

2045
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 9: Dwarte to the Chicago Bulls and Harrison Barnes to the

2046
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 9: San Antonio Spurs. Indeed, in the Summer League on Saturday,

2047
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 9: it was the Sacramento Kings defeating the Los Angeles Lakers.

2048
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,799
Speaker 9: What away to ninety four Bronnie James twenty two minutes

2049
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 9: in his debut he got the start. He scored four

2050
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 9: points on two for nine shooting from the field, had

2051
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,640
Speaker 9: three rebounds, two assists, did not commit a turnover or

2052
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:27,560
Speaker 9: a personal foul. Baseball Saturday night, the Arizona Diamondbacks with

2053
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 9: a seven to five win in ten innings at San

2054
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 9: Diego Rockies over the Royals three to one Colorado on

2055
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 9: a three game what ex streak show, Hey o'tani it

2056
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 9: is twenty eighth home run of the season. In the

2057
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:42,639
Speaker 9: Los Angeles Dodgers five to three triumph over the Milwaukee Breweries.

2058
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 9: At Wimbledon Men's three seed, Carlos Alcaraje just won his

2059
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 9: fourth round match, defeating France's Ugo Umbert in four sets. Finally,

2060
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 9: in soccer, on Saturday night, at Allegiance Stadium in Vegas,

2061
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 9: in the quarterfinals of Copa America, Uruguay knocked off Brazil

2062
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:02,680
Speaker 9: on penalty he kicks four to two after finishing regulation

2063
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 9: in a scoreless tie. Here is how Uruguay's shootout winning

2064
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 9: penalty kick goal sounded on Radio Uruguay, with Fabian Bertolini

2065
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:14,639
Speaker 9: at the mic.

2066
01:53:18,280 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 4: Sas.

2067
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 9: Making them dance in the streets of Montevideo Mike and

2068
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 9: Ryan back to you.

2069
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,560
Speaker 2: It's like Jim Zobel calling the old Iowa gans. I

2070
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 2: love it, I love it, I love it, I love it.

2071
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:53,560
Speaker 3: I love it.

2072
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 2: All right, Islo, you were tasked with one of your calls,

2073
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have that when I come back, the

2074
01:53:58,920 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 2: one that you wanted, the rosie.

2075
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we.

2076
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 2: Will do that in a moment celebrating the many works

2077
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 2: of our team here at Fox Sports Radio. He's Ryan Hollins,

2078
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 2: I'm my car. But we're going to tell you how

2079
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 2: to put days back on your life, how to fail spectacularly.

2080
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 2: And that call from Isaac Low and Crown. As we

2081
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 2: wrap things up here on a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday,

2082
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 2: I will now dance through my day like I'm Christopher

2083
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:24,600
Speaker 2: walking in the music video that accompanies this song. And

2084
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 2: if you don't know it, look it up. Little Fat

2085
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 2: Boy Slim for you, Chris Prophet on the ones and twos,

2086
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 2: crandall and Ian making us sound so pretty as well.

2087
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 8: Fun fact about this song, yes, sir, there's a line

2088
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 8: about that talks about if you walk without rhythm, you

2089
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 8: won't attract the worm reference to Dune, who plays the

2090
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 8: Emperor in Dune.

2091
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 2: See how it all comes together. Mm hmm, how about

2092
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 2: that because of that, just because of this music video. Now,

2093
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 2: what would have been funny is if they found a

2094
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 2: way to work that into the soundtrack, like a like.

2095
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 8: A mass track kind of almost that's almost too kitchee

2096
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 8: for a movie that series.

2097
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 2: But playing it backwards or something like like we're going

2098
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 2: into you know, the old Beatles thing of Paul and

2099
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 2: his demise. I like that though at Chris Purfat where

2100
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 2: you find him for all his content. Now, Ryan Hollins,

2101
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 2: it's it's time to go back to Isaac because I

2102
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 2: tease the hell out of this and then he failed

2103
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 2: me earlier in the show. So we opened his microphone

2104
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 2: once again and we bring him back in because we

2105
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 2: want to extol the virtues of all of the efforts

2106
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 2: of our team here at Fox Sports Radio. Ilo who

2107
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 2: does work for angel City FC doing play by play

2108
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 2: and then greatness in the in the pre and post

2109
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 2: getting ready to work with the Chargers again. There's so

2110
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 2: much going on. I saw his map of all the

2111
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 2: players and everything from this Angel City game, but his

2112
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 2: call on this Rose Lavelle goal. Now it ends up

2113
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 2: being a two to one Angel City defeat. Playoff hopes

2114
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 2: becoming more and more remote as we go off of

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Speaker 2: this result. But I just wanted to, you know, because

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Speaker 2: you guys have beef. I wanted to show breaks of

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Speaker 2: positivity together here that long standing back and forth. But

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Speaker 2: I wanted to show you Ilo at his finest on

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Speaker 2: the call she.

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Speaker 3: Had the martin for Gotham.

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01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 9: Steven's back to the goal to Don.

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01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 2: Sets up level GA's The Shudway scores beautiful, lightning, fast

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Speaker 2: passing play by Gotham.

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Speaker 3: A f c.

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Speaker 4: Rose Leavelle for the second.

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Speaker 9: Time this year against Angel City and fifth time overall

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01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 9: finds the net one nothing Gothdam and one footnote Gotham

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01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:44,919
Speaker 9: is unbeaten in its last twenty three matches when scoring

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Speaker 9: perse and thoughts actually yeah fellas Actually a footnote for

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Speaker 9: our national audience. That goal you just heard featured two players,

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Speaker 9: Rose Level and Crystal Dunn, who are going to be

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Speaker 9: on the US Olympic team coming up later this summer.

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Speaker 9: And I think the US Olympic team is going to

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Speaker 9: have a really good showing at the Olympics. They have

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Speaker 9: a new exciting new head coach in Amma Hayes.

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Speaker 2: Well, seeing as the the old regime in the news

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Speaker 2: for not so positive reasons. We'll get into that as

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Speaker 2: the week goes on, No question about it. Things that

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Speaker 2: I was reading about while I was overseas Ilo though,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Ryan, what do you think of that call?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's for the opponent's goal and just to me,

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Speaker 2: a true professional call.

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Speaker 9: My heart, my heart was breaking inside as I was

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Speaker 9: saying that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I mean, if I close my eyes,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just it was. It was masterful.

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Speaker 3: Even if I didn't know I low or just couldn't

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Speaker 3: stand his guts, I'd be like, Wow, that guy right

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Speaker 3: there is amazing. That's just art. Okay, that's art.

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Speaker 2: That all right? Can I tell you guys the trick.

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Speaker 2: According to a new study in Australia of how to

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Speaker 2: get part days every year of your life back, they say,

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Speaker 2: according to this study, people go to an average of

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Speaker 2: twenty five parties a year and it takes and if

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01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 2: you do the goodbyes, you're talking about hours of goodbyes.

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Speaker 2: So they're suggesting the Irish goodbye. When you're done, you leave,

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Speaker 2: the host if it's a party, doesn't give a damn

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Speaker 2: that you walked out the door. So that's how you

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Speaker 2: save time, You do the Irish goodbye. They knew you

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Speaker 2: were there, you shook hands, you kiss babies, and then

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Speaker 2: you just leave. What do you think of that, Ryan Hollins,

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Speaker 2: is that a style that you employ?

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Speaker 3: I mean, hidden miss, hidden miss? I mean I understand it.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you have to because you get stuck. You don't

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Speaker 3: want to be stuck somewhere. You get it. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's just it.

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Speaker 2: Because while you say goodbye to one guy, another guy

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen again, everybody, good to see you. That

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Speaker 2: kind of thing, because that happens here leaving the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Wow, if you don't sprint out of here, sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Fault is it call him out? There's someone who likes

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01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 3: to keep you call him out.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, welo no. I think it's Ilo

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Speaker 2: sprints out of the building as fast as he can.

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding? I don't believe that. I don't have

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Speaker 3: no question.

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Speaker 2: About it now. But for me, it's it's the idea

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Speaker 2: that sometimes you want to catch up with folks, check

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Speaker 2: in on how they're doing, which is I think important,

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Speaker 2: but also you know, can become a half hour or

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Speaker 2: you start having a debate over something, and those are

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Speaker 2: hours that start to add up. And that's any workplace

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Speaker 2: for that matter, unless you're virtual, because then you just

2184
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Speaker 2: shut the comraes off like you will, and you don't

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Speaker 2: call me out what you're You're in the planet Houston.

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Speaker 2: You're doing just fine. He's Ryan Hollins. We'll do it

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Speaker 2: again next week, brother, Jason Fitz, Carrie Rhodes coming up here.

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Speaker 2: Get the podcast, all the heroes and villains talk, who's

2189
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Speaker 2: your goat and who broke your heart? Check it all

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Speaker 2: out in the twitterverse at Swollen Dome