WEBVTT - Too Much Crime... Not Enough Time 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.080 Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Real 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:20.680 Time Crime. We love to see you are sexy social sleuths. 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.000 Welcome back today. We're going to be discussing the Lorie 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:29.800 Arnold case, Rachel del Tondo, Scott Peterson and more. And 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.320 with me I have my wonderful co host Teddy Meloncamp, 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:38.040 Hi guys, and sometimes Dmitri, who, by the way, mouthed 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:40.960 your intro. Teddy, I know, were you so excited you 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.800 thought I was gonna pause again? Didn't you know you 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.879 can do the thing that you Teddy Meloncamp, I actually 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:52.000 was trying something else out, but thanks for blowing my cover. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:53.920 I felt like maybe something was wrong. I was just 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.400 checking in. You know what something is wrong? You guys? Like, 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:02.760 normally I'm researching crimes and I feel so therapeutic to me. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.160 And I think because the holidays are coming up and 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.600 so many crimes are coming in, I like have anxiety 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.560 with how much has happened. Like my husband came in, 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.959 He's like, you don't look like you slept for days 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.760 the podcast, I'm like, I know, there's just so many crimes. 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.679 There's so much. I mean, it feels like it's tripling. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.480 I agree, especially in Los Angeles. That's number one where 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.640 I think apparently now we're officially known as Gotham City, 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.440 some pretty bleak here in l A. But I think 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.760 we should talk about our first crime, which is the 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.120 fact that I'm not dressed as Elizabeth Holmes. What's the 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.520 what you had something else you had to do today 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.160 that you can wear a black turtleneck. Thank you. I 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.360 while I do want everyone to think that I only 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.480 wear black turtlenecks, and yes I do own fourteen of them, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.680 I think that's actually starting to become a mental illness. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:02.280 It's actually I have a black turtleneck for every occasion. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.840 I've got a I've got a crop top black turtleneck, 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:09.160 I have a dress turtleneck. I have a sleeveless turtleneck there. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.519 This is like you even have a mock turtleneck on currently. Yeah, 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.840 I know, thank you. Well, that's me with hoodies every day. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.200 I just can't. It's this is my this is my um, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.560 this is my attire, this is my Elizabeth Holmes is 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.480 different hoodies and different colors. It works for you. I 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.119 just think that I think turtlenext frame your face well, 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.800 and we know because Galaine Maxwell, I almost said, jis Lane. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.440 What's wrong with me? But that's what we want to 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.800 call her. We want to call her jis Lane. We 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.800 want to call her jis Lane. We we want to 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.079 call her a lot of things, especially after the additional 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.480 updates that we've been seeing on the trial, not really 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:54.160 from press, but yeah, but more of the story is 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.040 she also always wears turtlenecks for the most part, and 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.800 I think they just make you look sexier, and so 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.600 does Elizabeth Holmes. There's a theme here, and so maybe 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:09.800 I will become a criminal podcasts, I commit crimes when 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.120 I wear children. Next after you've had a couple of kids, 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.480 and it's some extra next like there is no like 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.399 I'm like this, but you know, speaking of crimes that 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:25.000 are mysteriously discharged, we've got O. J. Simpson. Why don't 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:26.800 you let me why it was I allowed to do 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.880 a segue because I felt like you were doing a 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.280 nice job of it. So continue on, Dmitri. I've never 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.320 seen you roll your eyes harder to just pop a 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.560 blood vessel in your eye. Okay, continue on with O J. Okay, 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.839 Teddy wants to kill me. They're gonna be there's gonna 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:44.680 be another crime on this podcast. Okay, so O J. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:49.160 Simpson is once again a freeman. Also, that's already a 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:54.320 hilarious statement. He was discharged from his parole two months early, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.560 and I would just like for everyone to take note, 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:03.280 just to take note. He was acquitted in but two 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.560 years later lost a civil trial and he was ordered 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.880 to pay thirty three point five million dollars and damages. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:17.000 So he technically was held accountable for the murders. But 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.400 for some reason that has just always been overlooked. Anyway, 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.880 So he was on parole and then released from prison 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.840 in seventeen for the Las Vegas kidnapping an armed robbery 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.720 in two thousand seven, and his parole was scheduled to 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.880 end February nine. But on November thirty, the Nevada Board 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.360 of Pearl Commissioners held a quote unquote early discharge hearing 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.640 for Simpson after receiving a written recommendation from the Nevada 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:48.280 Division of Parole and Probation. So they said that the 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:54.080 decision to grant early discharge from parole was ratified. Um basically, 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.760 the board voted on unanimous release of Simpson and he 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:03.120 only served nine of a thirty three year sentence. So 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:04.560 I'm not sure if you remember this, but he was 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.680 released in October of that year because also during a 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.120 robbery in two thousand seven, he was part of a 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:14.000 group that raided a hotel and casino to steal sports 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:18.440 memorabilia at gunpoint. So, for those of you who are unfamiliar, Simpson, 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.880 who starred for the Buffalo Bills in nineteen seventies and 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.840 is the twenty one leading rusher in NFL history, said 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:29.400 that the items belonged to him. And Simpson spent a 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.440 lifetime in the limelight, first for his athletic prowess in 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:38.680 college and the NFL, and then as an actor and pitchman, 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.640 and then as a murder suspect in killing of his 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.440 ex wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.040 I actually am always triggered by this because my legal 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.960 last name is Goldman, no relation. I just had to 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.400 make this about me somehow, thank you. And he pleaded 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.760 a hundred percent not guilty, of course, and then that's 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.039 when he was acquitted and then two years later lost 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:06.200 the civil trial. What do we think did he serve 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.479 his time with? He let off easy? What's our o 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:14.240 J decision? Well, I actually making it about me. I 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.320 have met O J. Simpson. Uh huh, yeah, do you 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.720 remember the restaurant? I mean it might still be open COI. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.960 It's on La Siennaga. It used to be like the 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:30.880 sushi hot spot. I was there and O J. Simpson 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.120 was there as well, And to me, this is a crime. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:39.200 Without anybody asking. He just started asking people if they 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.480 wanted to take his picture, and I was like, who 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.440 does that? It's one thing if somebody comes up and 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.800 they're like, Hi, nice to meet you, I'm your biggest fan. 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.960 Can I take your picture? Or it's just I'm your 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.800 biggest fan. You can tell they're nervous. They want to 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.960 get your picture, but they're scared to ask. That was 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.799 not happening. He was just sitting at the table, arms wide, 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.960 like who wants the cher So he was trying to wait. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.880 So he was trying to be a mall Santa pretty much. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:10.800 I mean it was so uncomfortable that and and everybody's like, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.760 you know at this time, I mean, I don't remember 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:18.320 what year this was. How how old do you think 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:26.640 I am? Dmitri hilarious Dmitri that I was like fourteen. 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:31.400 This is one of those times when sometimes Dmitri and not. Sometimes. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.520 I remember the o J case because we all went 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:39.120 to library and watched the like at in high school 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:44.720 and watched like the Chase from the Yes, that was 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.600 the only place get a TV at my school, so 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.600 we all went there to watch it. But no, um 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.040 and now everyone has a TV in their hand at 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.680 all times. Correct. But yeah, that that happened with o J. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:08:01.880 I personally think, if you keep committing crimes, maybe you 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.600 shouldn't keep getting let out early. If you commit the crimes, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.960 you do the time he doesn't. Maybe it's just bad 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.960 luck follows him. And you know, this is a jury 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:17.040 of his peers, the three of us, and we are 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.720 sentencing him back to jail. But you know, I do 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.000 think the mall Santa moment is a little ridiculous. Did 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.040 anyone sit on his lap? And he's like, all I 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.600 want for Christmas is the charges dropped. The What I 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.960 can say is that people did take him up on 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.480 the offer. Oh my god, I know I was like, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.880 I'll just have a spicy tuna crispy rice, thank you, hilarious. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:43.560 Ted Bundy was there. I would have done it. He 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:49.760 was hot. Yeah, this is something that's an inside voice 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.080 We've talked about this about saying mass murderers were hot 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.040 or attractive or sexy. We're trying not to do that 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.360 a little lesslie, I remember, we're going to try to 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.439 do that a little less. This next we're going to 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.760 have to go through very quickly. Um. But while we're 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:09.400 on the topic of NFL players, Kevin Wears missing girlfriend. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:19.000 They think that they found her remains and he is 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:25.120 already in jail, denied bail because of his involvement in 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:32.280 Pomaski's death. Ah. I feel like the part that's very 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.960 bizarre to me is how long went before her parents 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:40.200 made her missing. Carson, I agree with that completely. The 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.560 first time I saw the story was that she was 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.160 last seen on April, but her family filed the missing 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.480 person's report on May tenth, only after realizing that she 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.760 didn't contact them on Mother's Day. Yeah, and I'm like, 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.760 this sounds really narcissistic. They're like, um, this is weird. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.480 We didn't get a press in where are my roses? 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:09.079 I mean, this it's it's it's a hard tell. Yeah, 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:16.480 but I mean he he already, he already has history. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:17.960 I'm trying to figure out how to say this about 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:23.120 getting trouble. He already has a history of abuse towards her, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:27.200 according to her friends. Right, And he was also arrested 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.559 on drug charges and weapon charges in April, and then 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:36.440 he was released on bond but then arrested again for 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:41.320 failing to appear in court. So kind of seems like 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.880 he's a repeat offender. It was just showing like lack 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.000 showing lack of empathy for sure. I mean, failing to 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.040 show up in court already says something. But also I 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.720 have a question. If your girlfriend is missing that long, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.760 aren't you the one to maybe contact your parents and 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:05.199 or the police. I mean, maybe you can say with 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.520 the parents, not contact. Maybe they don't have that type 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.839 of relationship where they talk all the time. However, if 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:15.719 that is your significant other, you're talking and last year 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:22.160 was leaving a party and it's just disturbing. So I 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:26.199 think that that is probably going to be the best 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:31.520 evidence that this is your significant other. And then you 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:35.840 just mysteriously don't contact them for three weeks or bring 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.880 up the fact that they're missing, Yeah, that should be 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:44.680 the definite. You know what's so funny is I was 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.080 going to say that, and then I was like Teddy 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.040 and Dmitri, you're gonna gang up on me, you know, 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.440 let's let's take down. You know, I'm very open to 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.960 your Brian laundry conversations as long as they don't continue 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:01.760 on for much longer. Which brings me to jan a dooger. Wow, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.040 she does it again, Ladies and gentlemen. Well, you know what. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.680 Jana Douger breaks her silence following child dangerment, shares the 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.360 raw facts. I'm only sharing this because the media has 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.080 been having a field day with it all. Yes, the 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.920 former reality star began in a statement on Tuesday, December 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.200 fourteenth via Instagram story. I prefer more private life, but 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.160 I know my last name means that everything we do 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.840 is open to public criticism and interest, especially during this time. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.400 I was babysitting a few months ago and one of 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:35.400 the children wandered outside alone. A passer by who saw 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.760 the child called the police. This resulted in a written 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.440 citation as well as a follow up with childwear Welfare, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.640 who concluded that it was an accident and the child 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:49.040 was unharmed. Okay, I've done a lot of babysitting, and 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.760 I understand that baby that accidents happen, but I don't 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.840 think that this is something people are having a field 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.240 day over. This is a huge accident, a huge mistake, 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.040 like this isn't something that just happens every day when 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.000 your babysitting. How many children were in the house at 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.480 the time, They don't say, we don't even know if 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.040 she was babysitting her nieces and nephews or her you know, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.559 or somebody else. We have absolutely no idea. But following 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:22.160 everything that's going on with you know, her brother, it's 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.680 it's not ideal timing for her. And personally, I don't 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.040 even really want need to see anything else in regards 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.400 to this family. I just want them to all get 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:35.200 the help that they need and maybe stop having so 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:41.360 many children. I feel like nineteen and counting can simmer down, right. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.800 I mean, if they actually had nineteen kids in the 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.800 house and one happened to get loose, I actually could 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.000 understand that, you know, because then at that point she 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.800 has a daycare. She has a daycare. I love that. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.199 You're actually like, we're talking about French bulldogs and we're 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:59.560 talking about children. Well, I mean, first of all, I 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.760 wouldn't know, but are there usually locks on doors that 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.840 are child proof or is there like a like how 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.000 high would you have to reach to be able to 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.800 get to the door? You know what I mean? Was 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.679 there like a door open? I feel like there are 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.120 pieces of information that are missing. There are pieces of 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.160 information you are missing because she does not wanting to 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:25.920 obviously be transparent about what exactly happened. Um. That being said, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.640 one would imagine the ratio of how many kids you're 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.880 supposed to watch, like in a daycare, one to how many. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.840 That's also it's like one to say, I don't know 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.040 what the ratio is, but let's say it was so 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.680 many kids you couldn't manage. I just don't know that 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.920 that's the case. Um, but I do think this kind 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.840 of public statement of that like everybody's coming down and 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.280 you're like you know that that is coming Yeah, I 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.320 mean I wonder if I wonder at what point is 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:02.360 it gross negligence or if it's just negligen I mean, 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.640 I'm sure she's beating herself up. She has to be. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.600 I mean, I mean believe. I mean there's been times 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.160 even just you're playing with your kids and they bumped 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.320 their head on something, you know, I beat myself up, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:17.240 like there's no but this is definitely one of those things, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.880 especially if your babysitting you're getting paid to do a 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:24.320 job like all hands on deck. Apparently, not to make 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.760 this about me, but when I was one year old, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.400 I was sitting in a chair and my mom said 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:37.520 she left me for thirty seconds and I just fell 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:43.000 right over, face first onto the ground. And she said 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.440 when she came back into the room, she was mortified, 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.080 and she thought I was dead. And I wasn't making 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:53.880 any noise, I wasn't cry and then she laughing, giving me, 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:58.240 well I have alive. Hello obviously unless I'm you know, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.240 there was a switcheroo, but um, and then she said 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:02.640 she picked me up, and I was just like, ha ha. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:11.320 I think this explains a lot about me as a person. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:15.040 It completely makes sense. I mean, accidents do happen. I 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.040 fell down the stairs in my walker when I was 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.400 a little kid. They're like your little big My head 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.760 became huge. I had to go to the hospital. Accidents 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.160 do one million. So we can give her the benefit 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.040 of the doubt. But everything going on in the press 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:32.000 right now, it's it's tricky. Well, everything going on with 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.200 Josh right who you know it was, who's thirty three 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.560 and faces up to twenty years of imprisonment and up 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:43.480 to two dollars in fines for each conviction of receiving 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.920 and possessing child sexual abuse materials. Um, that's really in 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.760 the media right now, and of course it should be. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.760 I mean he also admitted in that he was having 0:16:55.480 --> 0:17:03.200 an unfaithful um activity. Um, I rephrased that very strangely, 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.360 but he was unfaithful in his marriage and that he 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:13.119 was addicted to porn. So, I mean, just this family 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.600 is is they need to stop having kids. I think 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.959 Teddy that was the right move. I mean, now they 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.560 are no longer on television, so that's for sure part 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:28.000 but they are on television, just in a different circumstance, correct, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.880 But they no longer have a reality television show highlighting 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:35.520 in their life. But yeah, the whole thing is very depressing. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:41.480 I just I don't I think child pornography is so despicable, 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:46.359 and I don't imagine that he won't face life in prison. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.760 I hope that he does. I couldn't imagine any other 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.560 result to me that there's absolutely no excuse for that. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.879 There's absolutely no disc we have to do. We have 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.639 to take a little break, you guys when we come back, 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:04.359 we're going to talk about Lorie Arnold. I if you 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.680 haven't seen The Queen of Math, it is a much 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.360 I must watch. All right, let's take a little break. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:25.119 When we come back, we'll discuss Lauria. Al Right, guys, 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.639 welcome back. And I have to say that my slew 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.919 thing this week has really been dedicated to Lorie Arnold, 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:37.880 because I stumbled across across, I stumbled across, I stumbled 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:42.800 across Queen of Math, and immediately I was hooked. Laurie 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.080 was born in one in Iowa. She was raised by 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.119 her dad and her step mom along with six other siblings. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:54.680 One of the siblings happening to be celebrity Tom Tom Arnold, 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.560 who is a wonderful person. By the way. You know 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.840 him right, I know we should have had him on. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.680 By the time she was fourteen, she was hanging around 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:04.840 at the club where her mom worked and was addicted 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.639 to alcohol. By nineteen eighty five, she was married to 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:12.560 the president of the Grim Reaper motorcycle Club, Floyd Stockwell, 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:18.199 and their young son are and The drug dealing started 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.640 out small, but it turned into a way to bring 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.040 in some extra cash, and then the extra money Arnold 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:24.720 says was able to help their friends who are in 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:30.040 a tough spot financially. Ultimately, she turns into the nickname 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.560 Queen of Math. Through the large scale drug operation controlled 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.480 throughout the nineteen eighties and nineteen eighty nine, the FBI 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:41.120 arrested her sees more than ten million dollars in assets. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.919 She was convicted of drug trafficking and money laundering and 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.640 spent more than fifteen years of prison. And I love 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.680 that you said that you were hooked on this case, 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.879 because that's exactly what she would have wanted. She but 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.560 he where's the hard part with watching? Did you watch 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.240 Queen of Math or you've just done your research online. 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:03.160 I've done my research because when you're watching her, she's 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:10.800 so likable you almost forget that she was distributing meth 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:15.280 to mass quantities because she's funny and she's you know, 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.280 you can tell well you would you start to believe 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:22.199 that she's like remorseful, like realizing what she did to 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.160 her families and her friends by supplying you know, meth. 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.520 But she also went to prison and then came out 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.720 and then tried to get sober and live the sober life, 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.440 and then was like working at Wendy's and at the 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:40.040 meat place, and then she realized she missed it and 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:44.240 went back to it and then got arrested again. Addiction 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:50.080 is really difficult, but not just the addictions, the addiction 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.920 of making money, the addiction of making money. I feel 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.639 like that was also the thing. And and she talks 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.800 about a time when Tom and Rosanne Barr came to visit, 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.800 and it was before he was sober, and he was 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.160 talking about it too, and like Roseanne was at their 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.880 parents house and he went over there and like did 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.879 so much, so many drugs that then he came back 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.800 and he was not able to even move when he 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.040 saw Roseanne, Like he was just in bed, stuck, like 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.000 almost odeeing. And that was the point in time when 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.960 he decided, you know, well, Rosanne decided it was time 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.800 for him to get sober. If if you wanted to 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.560 marry her, yeah, I mean she was making two thousand 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.800 dollars a week. I mean I might be a drug 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:43.200 dealer for two hundred thousand dollars a week. I mean, 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.200 I don't know what else to tell you. I wish 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.080 megalomania was one of my better qualities, but it's just 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.200 I don't have it unfortunately, But not just that people 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.800 were driving I mean across the country multiple times. She 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.639 even bought a car dealership in order to so they 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.680 could drive different cars every single time. So that wasn't 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.760 like red flag that the same car was driving from 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:08.639 Iowa to California to Arizona to all these different places 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.639 and houses, multiple bars, all to funnel and try to 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:16.919 clean the money and her and she was the brains 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.600 of the entire organization. And then her husband at one point, 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:23.879 like she also has a child, might I add who 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:27.480 they seemed to actually still have a pretty good relationship. 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:33.720 He had to deal with such terrible fights between Lori 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:38.320 and her ex husband because he would go and use 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.480 and then come back and shoot at them with a gun. 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:45.320 They would like hide behind the car. I mean, this 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.880 was just the way that they kind of grew up. 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:52.920 And also this part that was really heartbreaking. Was this 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.240 all kind of stemmed, you know, in my opinion, from 0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:59.400 their mother. I knew you were going to say from 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:03.920 her childhood, but it's true. I mean, they grew up. 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:07.280 They were living with the mother, decided to give the 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.639 kids to the dad, and then when they were around 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.600 twelve or thirteen, the dad wasn't letting them party the 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.320 way they wanted to, so they went and lived with 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:20.879 a mother who was married six times. And then the 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:26.439 mom treated them more like friends and wanted to party 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:28.440 with them because she didn't want to, you know, party alone, 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.080 or she'd have them at the bar where she worked, 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:32.800 and that's when they started drinking and using. And it's just, 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:39.320 you know, I think it's hard for me because when 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:44.000 your childhood starts out like that, it seems probably so 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.879 impossible to get out, and the idea of being able 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:51.080 just to make money and you know, support your own 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:55.040 family and your own friends probably seems pretty great, and 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.000 like it's not like I guess Tom even called her 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.320 and said this before she got arrested the second in time, 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.320 and said, I've been tipped off. They're gonna arrest you again, 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:08.439 and she said, go f yourself. I think, you know, 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.880 she was like fourteen, I think when she was hanging 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.600 out at clubs with her mom where her mom worked, 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:22.480 and her mom was an alcoholic, and I think it's 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.960 it's difficult when you grow up in a situation with 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:28.399 alcoholism and addiction in your living life in the fast 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:33.679 lane before your brain has even fully formed because that 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.679 becomes normal to you. Oh, speaking of she also got 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:42.000 married as a fourteen year old to somebody the president 0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:46.280 of the grim reapromoters, a different person. She was married, Yeah, 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.800 she was already married and he was the mom had 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.959 set them up. It's just and then he was, you know, 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:55.600 essentially a pedophile. But if you go to a certain 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.320 state then you can right off and they're allowed to 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:00.560 get married. And she married him for a year until 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.320 it's just so heartbreaking their entire story. But you guys, 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:09.000 well she also tried meth as a kid. I mean 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:12.920 it started out small, her drug dealing, as a lot 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.119 of times it does before you realize you're addicted to 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.760 it and the money is easy, and you know she 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.840 was just trying to bring in some extra cash. Um, 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.439