WEBVTT - Trump's Concentration Camps in El Salvador 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.120 Cool Zone media. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.119 This is it could happen here. I am not going 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.920 to El Salvador. It's not gonna happen, no way, No, 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:18.000 thank you, mister President. I'm Garrison Davis. I'm joined by 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:19.079 James Stout. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:19.320 Hi. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:19.840 Garrison. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.640 We're here to talk about possibly the most upsetting thing 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:27.320 I've seen in American politics in like the past six 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.920 months to maybe even I don't know viscerally had hit 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.600 me for like the past few years. Like yet what 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.680 happened on Monday in the Oval Office was is kind 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:38.360 of the most black pilt I've ever been, which is 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:39.800 not a great way to start an episode. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:44.400 Yeah, it like it made me feel like I found 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.720 twenty twenty three very hard, like going out and seeing 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:48.839 people freezing in the desert and then coming home and 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.760 some by knee ice cream on the on the timeline, 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.240 but like this was different. This was so like blatant. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:59.080 There's like a level of like intentional depravity that you're 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.400 reminded of or more blatantly so and. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:07.119 Like Bukes trolling of yes everyone. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.280 So we're gonna be talking about an Oval Office meeting 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:14.600 between President Trump and El Salvador President Bukelea. I guess 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:18.440 I could learn his first name, Naive Buke. There you go. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.640 You know he's Palestinian Salvadorre. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.240 Are you fucking serious? 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:23.440 No, that's an emam. 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:25.760 I don't even have time for that. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:30.840 It's just just fucking I'm sorry. If anyone's driving it 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.399 has had an accident upon hearing that. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:38.480 So, as you probably know, recently, the United States government 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:44.080 has sent upwards of three hundred people immigrants to the 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:50.080 L Salvador Terrorism Confinement Center, This prison black site that 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.680 people never return from. I guess I could point to 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.880 for a pop culture reference, which feels a little bit 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.520 in bad taste, but you can point to like the 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.760 prison in the TV show and Or as being a 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.320 very comparable facility, frankly, except they turn off the lights 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.000 in and Or they do not turn off the lights 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.519 in Seacott lights around all the time. They put ten 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.440 to twenty people per sell. It's pretty bad. Jameson has 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.280 done episodes on Seacott in the past, will probably keep 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:18.840 doing more. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.000 The lights thing, by the way, was a specific policy 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.919 change by Bouquele. There was a particularly violent weekend in 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.640 El Salvador, and as a result, he stopped letting people 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.280 who were detained for gang crimes go outside and stopped 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.040 building windows into the prison and just put the lights 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.840 on because a way of punishing, I guess the gangs 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.519 by punishing the people who are detained there. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.240 Yeah, they can't go outside. They stay in their cell 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.519 for almost twenty four hours a day. They might occasionally 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.280 get thirty minutes outside, but that's not even confirmed because 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.240 no one's even allowed inside to see what's going on 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:57.520 in there. And we've sent upwards of three hundred immigrants there, 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.519 the majority, vast majority of which have no criminal record. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.760 Even if you do have a criminal record, being renditioned 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:08.280 to a foreign a foreign prison camp is still bad. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.920 But this is something that Trump hopes to expand on greatly, 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.840 and they are currently defending their ability to do so 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.280 in the court since it has been learned that a 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.280 few people sent there may have been partially sent by accident, 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:26.280 but the Trump administration is refusing to return these people 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.040 and is instead still trying to convince the public that 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:34.080 these are dangerous terrorists that deserve to be disappeared. So 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.080 let's kind of start with that main case. The case 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.680 that's receiving the most public attention right now is of 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:46.400 a Maryland man named Kilmayor Abrego Garcia, who's a subject 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.600 of a district court case that has been sent up 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.200 to the Supreme Court and then sent back to the 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.520 district court on whether this man can be returned home 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.600 to his US citizen wife and child. And then on 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.640 Monday April fourteenth, the Oval Office, meeting President Boukela said 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.640 that he will not return this Maryland immigrant with protected 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:10.280 legal status back to the United States, who Ice admits 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:16.159 was sent to Seacot based on a quote unquote administrative error, said, quote, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.480 how can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States? 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.279 Of course I'm not going to do it. The question 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:24.920 is preposterous unquote. The Al Salvador president also balked at 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.400 the idea of releasing Garcia from Seacott since he can't 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.320 have a quote unquote terrorist free in his country, lying 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.960 about Garcia being a criminal. I am going to play 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:37.599 a few clips in this episode because I think it 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.960 is necessary to listen to these people actually say the 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.320 words that they are saying, in the tone that they're 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.360 saying them, and the exact phrasing on these I think 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.800 is actually pretty important right now. So unfortunately, you are 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.880 gonna have to hear the voices of a few people 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.120 who you might not rather hear from, including the president 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:56.800 of El Salvador. So I'll play this first. 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.240 Clips can President big on this? 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:02.760 Do you plan to return him? 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.640 Well? Yeah, I'm suppose you're suggested that a smuggle terrorist 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:07.720 in today United States? 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:07.960 Right? 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.760 How can I smuggle How can I return him to 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.240 the latter It's like I smuggle him into the United 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:15.839 States or whether you do, of course. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.440 I'm not gonna do it. It's like, let mean that 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.400 the question is preposterous. How can I smuggle the terrorist 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:23.480 in today United States? 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.440 I don't have the power to return him to the 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.560 United States inside. Yeah, but I'm not releasing I mean, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.080 we're not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.000 We just turned the murder capital of the world to 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.080 the safest country of the Western hemisphere, and he want 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.159 us to go back into the releasing criminals so we 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.200 can go back to being the murder capital of the world. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.360 And that's good. That's not going to be happened. But 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.000 they'd love to have a criminal, you know, with schedule. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.719 I mean, I mean there's there's a fascination. Yeah, these 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:51.440 are chick people. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:06:03.200 It's just insane, Like the whole pretend any serious engagement 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.120 with reality there, it's just gone yeah. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.279 And they're both like miming that neither of them have 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.960 the ability to make any kind of deal between each 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.600 other to send people back, even though they have the 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.320 ability to make a deal to send people there. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.560 Yeah, as they sit in the same room. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.360 The whole time Bekayley's talking, Trump has like this, like 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.880 a growing smirk on his face. As Bekayley's talking about 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:27.039 this preposterous notion of smuggling a US immigrant back into 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.320 the United States despite the Supreme Court order to facilitate 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.320 the return of this immigrant back into the country. The 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:37.359 whole smuggling framing is obviously absurd, with him saying like 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.520 I don't have the power to return him to the 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.680 United States. All he needs to do is release him 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.920 from Seacott and the US can fly him back right 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.279 just as we flew him to El Salvador. Like the 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.800 two heads of state are sitting right next to each other. 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.640 They could agree to do this at any time, But 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.719 now everyone's pretending that that suddenly they don't have the 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.919 power to undo what they seemingly had the power to 0:06:59.000 --> 0:06:59.960 do in the first place. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.800 Like Bookeley has ruled and we're going to do a 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.960 whole episode of and like his rise to power and 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.680 then his use of power. But like he's ruled under 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.320 a state of exception for years in Elsabador, which allows 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.280 him to detain people without warrants, without trials, right, and 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:18.040 like it's that state of exception that is now the 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.680 norm there. And that's kind of what he seems to 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.000 be referring to, right, Like like we just get to 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:26.720 lock people up. Why would I not do that? 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:31.920 In effect, they are arguing that every single human being 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.720 that is sent to Seacot by the United States is 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.680 unable to ever leave the prison alive. Yeah, Like that's 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.840 basically they're saying, because they're saying both both parties, both 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.840 Trump and Bukel, are unable to have someone who's been 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.040 sent there returned. So they're just they're just saying like 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.360 no one's able to do anything, Like they're just stuck 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.840 there until they die, and like this is part of 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.400 the design of Seacot. Uh, the person who runs like 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.880 the Seacot like security has said that they do not 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:01.040 intend in any person ever being released from cat. You 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.040 are not designed to get out. You are stuck there forever. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.160 No one's ever left there. Yeah, it's just where you 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.200 get disappeared, and that's that's all. That's all that it is. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.560 And I think part of why they're so unwilling to 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.040 send Garcia back is because then you have someone like 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.320 the first person who's ever like gotten out and can 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:19.880 talk about what it's actually like in there, when you 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.360 don't have like Christinome and like propaganda cameras pointed at 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:24.640 at the prison bars. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.840 Yeah, Bukela is very redicent to really to anyone for 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.600 that reason, and like there are plenty of valigations and 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.079 like I think looks like Time magazine has publicist is 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.120 not huguely controversial that he made deals with gangs in 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.040 the past in elsabul or right to get them to 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.880 reduce the murder rate, and like he certainly wouldn't like 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.480 to hear that testify to certainly not in the United 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.000 States court, right, So, like he doesn't want people to 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.800 be released from there either, Like you said, they don't 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.439 want anyone to be able to go to any international 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.360 human rights courts and testify as to what happened to 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.960 them there. So it's kind of in his interest to 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.040 never have anyone be released. It's not just also, I 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.560 guess like in his interest, he's also being paid right 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.760 twenty thousand dollars per detainee per year by the United 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.200 States right now, so he also has a financial interest 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:13.200 in keeping people in there. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.520 Even this per year deal makes now kind of makes 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.440 the zero sense because both of them are arguing that 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.400 there's no way to send anyone back, right, So, like 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.680 it's not that it's even like, oh, they're only going 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.080 to be there for one year. It's like they're just 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.280 they're just there, and like who knows if they're gonna 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.120 like still be alive by the time that some of 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.720 these people would be able to get out, whether that's 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:40.280 through the miraculous Donald trumpetpeachment of twenty twenty six which 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.440 will never happen, or like however, like these people are 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.600 just they are to stuck there because he's not going 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.800 to release them into his country. We are seemingly unable 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.880 to take anyone back from there, I think. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.720 I mean unwilling right, Like the US is theoretically able. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.360 It's argued that we're unable. As people get into more Yeah, 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.200 after this at break. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:13.760 Okay, we are back. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.200 One thing that we've seen across the Trump administration the 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:21.000 past eighty days or so. Something that we saw very 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.960 evident in this meeting is that whenever a single person 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:29.240 is asked a question about the outrageous, possibly illegal, possibly not, 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.240 but just immoral or evil things that are being done, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.360 the first instinct is always to pass the buck onto 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.840 someone else. We saw this a lot with Signalgate, how 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.360 it was always someone else's faults. No single person could 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.360 get like hammered down of being like, okay, you are 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.040 the person that's going to be like accountable for this. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.920 And throughout this Oval Office meeting, eventually they started taking 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.280 questions from journalists and reporters and propagandists who are in 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.000 the room. And you saw this trend of you know, 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.680 if someone asks Trump about what's going on, he passes 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.840 the buck to Stephen Miller, who passes the buck to 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.400 who then passes the buck to Mark Rubio. And it's 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.200 like this big circle of like everyone's just talking around 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.240 each other because no one really has the authority to 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.360 speak on what's going on or how to fix this 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.760 problem because they don't see it as a problem. So 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.960 instead they just talk in a circle. And I think 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.640 Miller was one of the most effective at this and unfortunately, 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.480 we're going to play the longest clip in this episode, 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.680 just under two minutes from Stephen Miller, where he lays 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.760 out the Trump admins thought process and strategy behind what 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.520 they are doing. And I apologize for this, but it 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.360 is useful to hear from Himmler two. 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.520 So here here we go, with respect to you. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:45.480 He's a citizen of El Salvador, so it's very arrogant, 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.079 even for American media to suggest that we would even 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.520 tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.880 a starting point. As two immigration courts found that he 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.160 was a member of Mster Tank. When President Trump declared 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.719 MS thir Team to be a foreign terrorist organization, that 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.840 meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:05.440 which I'm sure you know you're very familiar with, the 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.319 iona that he was no longer eligible for any form 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.000 of immigration relief in the United States. So he had 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.720 a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.120 our law he's not even allowed to be present in 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.760 the United States and had to be returned because of 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:25.160 the foreign terrorist designation. This issue was then by district 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:29.040 court judge completely inverted and a district court judge tried 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.000 to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:32.880 citizen of El. 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.200 Salvador and fly back here. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.080 That issue was raised to the Supreme Court, and the 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.920 Supreme Court said the District court order was unlawful and 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:45.680 its main components were reversed nine zero, unanimously stating clearly 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.280 that neither Secretary of State nor the President could be 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.679 compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.240 Salvador from Al Salvador, who again is a member of 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:01.000 MS thirteen, which is I'm sure you understand, rapes, little girl, girls, murders, 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.280 woman murder's children, is engaged in the most barbaric activities 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:05.880 in the world. And I can promise you if he 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.800 was your neighbor, you wouldn't move right away, So you 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:08.120 don't think. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.320 And what was r and the Supreme coach safe was 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.480 at nine to nothing. Yes, it was a nine zero 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.600 in our favor, in our favor against. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.120 The Juici Court ruling saying that no court has the 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.280 power to the telele foreign policy function of the United States. 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:29.120 As PAM said, the rulers solely stated that if this individual. 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.960 El Salvador sole distress was set back. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:33.959 To our country that we could deport him a set 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:34.320 in the top. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:35.880 No version of this. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.719 Legally ends up with an ever living. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.720 Here because he is a citizen of Al Savador, that 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:42.160 is the president of Al Sadidor. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.480 Your question about for the court can only. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:45.160 Be directed to Tennant. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.920 So there's a lot there. Yeah, I think I'm going 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.880 to start with I can promise you if he was 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.840 your neighbor, you would move right away. And I think 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.760 that is really the heart of what the Strump administration 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.400 is is doing, Like it's appealing to this most basic 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:09.559 like suburban crime, panic, fear, racism of well, if he 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.520 was your neighbor, you wouldn't want him living next to. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.920 You, Yeah, like a vagos neighborhood kind of. 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.080 Well, just completely lying about like the context of this 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:23.240 case with you Miller saying it's arrogant suggest that we, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.880 the most powerful country in the world, are used to 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.000 be before the tariffs can tell El Salvador how to 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:33.200 handle its citizens, falsely claiming that immigration courts deemed him 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.200 a member of MS thirteen, which just is not true, 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.240 talking about kidnapping him from Seacott to return him to 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.080 the United States, as if Ice didn't just kidnap hundreds 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.840 of people with no criminal records and send them to 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.400 a foreign goo lug and then also lied about about 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.120 the Supreme Court ruling, saying they found the district court 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.400 order to return to Garcia unlawfel and grossly mischaracterizing the 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.760 scope of what the Supreme Court ruling was and how 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.800 it was sent back to the district court to work 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:04.280 with the details on facilitate the return actually means. And again, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.920 I think like the one of the most telling parts 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.840 is how he ends by saying, quote, no version of 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.920 this ever ends up with him living here, And yeah, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.880 like they're gonna look for any any way to like 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.240 make this test case to work, right and if and 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.960 if they if they can do this to someone with 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.320 protected legal status, who is not a who's not a terrorist, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.160 who is not an actual MS thirteen gang member, right, 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.160 this is this is kind of ideal for them because 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.040 that means they can paint anybody as as a foreign 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.680 policy threat enough to be sent to a foreign goolag. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.760 Then at the very end of the clip, he passes 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.560 the buck off to to Bouquetlight to have to have 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.840 him answer this question again perfectly laying out their strategy. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.840 There's a lot to break down in what military It's 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.600 also just kind of interesting cambillary is like amongst the press, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.200 He's not one of the people like sat on the 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.680 couch is supposed to be giving the press conference. Right, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.800 he just kind of wades in too. I guess like 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.280 like offer this opinion and kind kind of like be 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.040 the kind of embassy of this of their response, I 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:08.200 guess in a sense, I think crucially, like Abergo Garcia's 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.560 protection was from being returned to El Salvador, right, because 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.240 he had been harassed by gang members when leaving El 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.160 Salvador and when living in El Salvador. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.880 He's lived in the States since twenty eleven, and he 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:24.280 left El Salvador to flee harassment and abuse from gang members. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.400 Yeah, the gangs that he's been accused of being a 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.360 part of. But like it then follows that, like it 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:33.240 would be legal for them to deport him to a 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.400 third country, right, and that is the path that they've 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.960 followed with all the Venezuelan migrants. Right, They've accused him 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.080 of being members of Trend de Ragua. I have not 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.440 seen a compelling case made that any of them are yet. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.960 I'm sure people from Trend de Ragua have come to 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.360 this country, but they have not provided any evidence that 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.400 the people they have sent to say God, are those people. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.440 No, Like we've had like fourteen people are like accused 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.600 of some kind of like violent crime like murder or rape, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.640 and in the other like two hundred and seventy five 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.560 do not have a criminal record whatsoever. 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.360 Yeah, and the bulk of this is relying on some 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.080 kind of idea that they have entirely created from fiction, 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.119 that they are tattooing practices when one entered the raga. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.760 And for them, right, even if they can't be returned 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.760 to Venezuela, they feel that they have this endraum which 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.320 is okay, we'll send them to a Salvador. But for 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:22.000 the Salbadarians, that's a different question, right, And that is 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.440 what they're trying to find here, And that is worrying 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.840 because the case here that is getting the most publicity, 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:31.600 that seems to be the one that the Supreme Court 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.720 has taken up is about the Salbadaran man. And I 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.879 hope that doesn't mean that like the ship has sailed 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.640 for the Venezuelans, right that essentially, Yeah, No, like they 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.000 don't have a case because that was the vast bulk 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.920 of them. I think there was only like sixty Salbadrean 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.960 citizens and the rest Venezuelans, no one. 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.359 Hundreds of people have been like forgotten in this After 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:55.480 Miller's rant there, Mark Rubio jumped in to state that, quote, 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.760 no court in the United States has the right to 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.360 conduct the foreign policy of the United stins States unquote. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.040 And Steven Miller hopped back in to talk about this 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.119 Supreme Court case that they're falsely saying they won nine 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.800 to zero, which is not how that case went, and 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.800 they start talking more broadly about what can be allowed 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.720 if it has to do with the foreign policy of 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.840 the United States, and how the courts don't have the 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.520 ability to intervene in that process. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.760 No, the foreign policy of the United States is conducted 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:25.960 by the President of the United States, not by a court, 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.760 and no court in the United States has. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.880 A right to conduct the foreign policy of the United States. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.840 It's that simple end of story. And that's what mister 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:34.520 Preme Court held. 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.000 By the way, has Barbara fort the Suterpeini Court said 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.960 exactly what Marco said, that no court has the authority 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.399 to compel the foreign policy function the United States. We 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.199 want a case nine zero, and people like CNN are 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.800 portraying it as a loss as usual because they want 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.880 foreign terrorists in the country who kidnap women and children. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.760 Part of what I find so disturbing about this idea 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.280 of you know, no habeas corpus, no due process if 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.240 you aren't on foreign soil is that like this idea 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.680 of the courts having no jurisdiction over foreign policy decisions 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.080 means that as long as you whether you're a citizen, 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.920 whether you're a permanent resident to document or undocumented immigrant, 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.120 as long as you are forcedly removed from the United 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.280 States soil, your rights and your due process has been forfeit, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.280 and the US has neither the obligation nor sometimes the 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.800 ability to return you to US soil if that is 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:29.000 their foreign policy interest. And this is such a troubling 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.360 broad concept that the portions of the courts are kind 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:36.439 of allowing them to claim right now, and the complete 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:41.640 removal of due process is like slowly getting encroached upon 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.359 at first with undocumented immigrants and green card holders, but 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.600 as we will see in the next section, they are 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.720 also absolutely going to be targeting US citizens. 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:53.960 Yeah, I think like we should just point out obviously 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.240 the court is not conducting the foreign policy of the 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.119 United States. It's ruling on the legality of the action 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.359 taken by the press, which is exactly what it's supposed 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:02.399 to do. Yeah. 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.440 And as it relates to your rights for due process 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.160 if you are in the United States. 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:11.560 Yeah, yeah, Like every single US person, right, US person 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.119 would be anybody who resides in the US, be they 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.280 documented or done, documented, migrant, citizen, what have you like, 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:19.400