1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal pull that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for Dake Edo Steak. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Is that whoo whoo? And them and tie Dan Rubinstein. 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Week eight week gate on us for a little bit 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: past the halfway mark in this year college football regular 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: season twenty twenty three, and normally at the top of 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: this show, just to pull back the kimono, normally you 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: tell me what your nickname is going to be for 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: the week, right. This is how I know you must 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: feel really good about it. You wouldn't tell me. 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: Now because I think you in concert in concert with 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: the name. I just I think I'm going to tie 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: it in really nicely, and I have an audio situation 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: with it. I'm just I'm very happy about it, Ty, 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: because look, it's week eight, which means that rough speaking, 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: most teams have had a buy So we've got like 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: some five and twos, some six and ones, some seven 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: and ohs, like we've got a lot of teams, you know, 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: near the top of the sport looking very strong. Mostly, 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: but I also think it's a fun point of the 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: season in which teams have an opportunity. I think there's 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: an opportunity because in the off season we'll talk about, oh, 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: this team, you know, they started slow, but they finished 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: winning five straights, or they went finished five of six, 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: four of six, four in a row, five out of seven, 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: and like finished on a strong note. And I think 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna plant my flag right here, Ty, that this 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: is the moment, This right here, Week eight is the 31 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: moment you leave all your love and you're longing behind. 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 4: Ty. 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: You can't carry the entire season with you if you 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: want to survive, That's right, Ty. No, oh, no, welcome 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: to second act Saturday. Okay, second Act Saturday. Maybe it's 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: just because I turned forty this year, and I'm telling myself, 37 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: everybody's got a second act in them. What they do 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: those first few decades maybe doesn't have a bearing on 39 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: your entire life. 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: So I'm ready. 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: I look at Arkansas, I look at Mississippi State playing 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: each other with an opportunity to perhaps reverse that narrative. Baylor, Cincinnati, 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: Boston College, Georgia Tech, Minnesota, not as much Iowa because 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: they're in the middle of their their dedicated reverse frosting. 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: I'm looking at Illinois against a Tanner Mordecai less Wisconsin 46 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: having an opportunity Oklahoma State. They just beat the Kansas schools, 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: not again West Virginia. West Virginia. I think they can 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 3: hold their heads pretty high about the first half of 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: their season. Clemson to Miami, both looking to finish strong 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: after some disappointment. This is all relative to expectations. Stanford 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: last week. All right, how about that do USC? How 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: about USC? 53 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: It's USC second act? Second act for second act for 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: all of us, Dan, let's just jump right in again 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: and time to help the week. 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Of course, 72 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: get all sorts of other Patreon bonus perks, ad for 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: you episodes, bonus content, access to the Discord for ball 74 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: or Discord goes crazy every Saturday. Perhaps it will again 75 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: this week on second Act Saturday. Dan, As we steer 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: directly into the teeth of week eight, let's start where 77 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: we always do with our big dogs. First big dog, 78 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of obvious. It is the biggest of all the 79 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: big dogs in Week eight, twelve o'clock on Fox. It 80 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: is my Penn State, Nitney Lyons. It is your Ohio State, 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Buckeye's Ohio State, favored by four and a half points 82 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: at home, Dan Rubinstein, Yes, it's a big game. This 83 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: is a big game. We've been waiting for this game 84 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: in the Big ten. Agree um, plant. 85 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: Your flag, ty, give the people your headline, and then 86 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: unfurl that banner you're gonna fly. 87 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: There is an aspect to this game that nobody is 88 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: talking about. Oh what is it? Or should I say 89 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: not talking about enough? Okay, A lot of folks that 90 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: I have seen online, the so called experts, the mainstream 91 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: talking heads, seem very willing to just gloss of the 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: lame stream media. That's right, Yeah, that's right. They're just 93 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: gloss and over a very simple fact that worries me 94 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: like crazy in this football game. When I checked on Monday, 95 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the bets, ninety percent of the 96 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: money was on Penn State. The pro better is the 97 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: so called sharps also in on Penn State in this 98 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: football game. The clear selling point if you are a 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: Penn State better is the defense, because per the sp plus, 100 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: Penn State is what like number two defense in the nation, 101 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: perhaps in the world. Everybody loves Penn State's defense number 102 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: one nationally against the pass, which should fare pretty well 103 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: for them here in this game. They have covered the 104 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: spread one hundred percent of the time this season, and 105 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: nearly every stat we have access to is in the 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: green for Penn State. This is a solid team. Yeah, 107 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: there's one stat that is not, and it is also 108 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: the stat that worries me the most in a big game. Scenario, 109 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: and that is that Penn State has almost no explosion whatsoever. 110 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: They have no explosion Dan, Yeah, none. They are one 111 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: hundred and eighteenth in explosive play rate. Pretty much every 112 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: other similar measure also has them in the deep red. 113 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: This is not a good team when it comes to 114 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: creating those big plays. For all the talk about Drew 115 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Aller and how maybe he is like the missing piece 116 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: for this offense. For Mike Yersich five and a half 117 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: air yards per pass, one hundred and thirtieth in the nation, 118 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: they are not stretching the field. And I think that's 119 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: a problem. 120 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: Now. 121 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: I have had some people say to me, well, look 122 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: who they played. Do you really want to give it 123 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 1: away in any of those games when you know you've 124 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: got basically a two game schedule later in the year. Fair, 125 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: But are we waiting eight weeks eight weeks for that 126 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: long con? Is Mike yoursage Danny Ocean play in the 127 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: long Con? Just setting everybody up, waiting to lull them in, 128 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: bring them up close to the box, and then air 129 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: it deep struggle against Northwestern They'll never know, they'll know. 130 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, look, if that is the plan, yeah, good 131 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: on you. That takes a lot of patience. I don't 132 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: think that Penn State is playing any kind of con 133 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that's who they are, and it worries 134 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: me that this team is not built to come from behind, 135 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: which is very much a scenario on the road in 136 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: Columbus big game. I could see them finding themselves in 137 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: a I don't know, seven to ten point deficit at 138 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: some point. So that's where I stand on this game. 139 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Is that is the point about this game that bothers 140 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: me the most. Nothing I said is inaccurate. How do 141 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: you feel about this game? 142 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: I think we've got two great defenses, and I think 143 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: one team has Winter Wonders at receivers. That team is 144 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: playing at home, and both teams I think have legitimate 145 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: offensive line concerns, although I think Ohio States are more 146 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: pronounced considering the amount of explosion we're used to with 147 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: Ohio State these past few years, whereas Penn State has 148 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: had those players, just not on the level of Ohio State. 149 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 3: Has not had a quarterback in terms of arm talent 150 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: that Drew Aller possesses. But Drew Aller again, you mentioned 151 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: it like he's not going downfield. This is not somebody either. 152 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't trust himself, or the playbook does not trust him, 153 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator does not five and a half yards 154 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: per air, yards per pass. 155 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: Right, and Penn State fans are quick to defend him 156 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: like he's taking care of business. He's doing what is 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: asked of him, He's completing passes, he's not turning the 158 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 3: ball over. I don't think that's a winning recipe for 159 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: as flawed as Ohio State is. I think Kyle McCord 160 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: will continue to improve even if the offensive line doesn't. 161 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: They will continue to get healthier. You know, Trey Henderson 162 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: and Amika Abuka, I think are game time decisions, but 163 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: they have options in the backfield. They have you know, 164 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: Dalan Hayden's coming on. Obviously, we know about Marvin Harrison Junior, 165 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Cad Stover, guys like that. And so the problem to 166 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: me lies in what is it that Penn State can 167 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: do on offense to win this game, not just not 168 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 3: lose it, not just not throw interceptions, right, but what 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: can they do to threaten Ohio State? And again, we 170 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 3: know Drew Aller's ceiling is probably incredible, but at a 171 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: certain point we need results. At a certain point, we 172 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: need to see it against teams that are not UMass. 173 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: So I have Ohio State winning this game by six 174 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: or seven points. 175 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: The spread is what. 176 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: Four to four and a half four and a half points. Yeah, 177 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: I think Ohio State can cover this spread. I don't 178 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: love the buck Eyes. I just at home. If they 179 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 3: were on neutral side, if they were in state college, 180 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: that'd be different from me. But at home with a 181 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: team that I think is still growing. You know, they're 182 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: sort of talented from the back in on defense, the 183 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: pass rush is kind of disappointing considering the talent level. 184 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: But I just don't think Penn State's defense on the 185 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: road can do it alone. So if you want to 186 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: say under, if you want to say first half under, 187 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: that's fine. I tend to favor Ohio State just because 188 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: of me. Both of these defenses have been great and 189 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: second halves. But at home, Jim Knowles has that reputation 190 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: for a great second half defense. So I'm going to 191 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: go with Ohio State. 192 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: To win this game twenty three sixteen. I think it's 193 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: lower scoring as well. I think that's a good shout. 194 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I think this is a good football game. Full way 195 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: through the thing that I keep coming back to, you're 196 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right with everything you said about Penn State. 197 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: What's the road is over offense? Yeah, everything about that 198 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: is correct. I do keep coming back to the fact that, well, 199 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: Notre Dame could have beaten Ohio State, and that was 200 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: largely in the back of its defense, and I think 201 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Penn State's better than Notre Dame on that side of 202 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: the ball. Also, Notre Dame could have won that game 203 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: without having to rely on anything Ohio State on the road. Yeah, 204 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Notre Dame could have won that game without having to 205 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: rely at all on the pass. I mean, eventually, what 206 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: broke Ohio State, or what could have broke them, was 207 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: the ground game in the second half for Notre Dame, 208 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: which did start to come alive. And I think that 209 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: is essentially what this version of Penn State wants to be. 210 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: They want to try and pound it on the ground 211 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: until eventually they have a whole open up for Nick Singleton, 212 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: who I've said before is a home run hitter k 213 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: tron Allen. Likewise, I think Penn State can win this 214 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: game even without having to stretch the field, which is 215 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: why I like them plus four and a half and 216 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: outright twenty four to twenty. You like Penn State to 217 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: win this game because they don't need to be explosive 218 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: to win this game. That's correct, That's correct. I think 219 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: they can play the style of football that they've been 220 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: playing all year and they can still win. I'm not 221 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: crazy about it. I would love to see more down 222 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: the field, but I think they're good enough to win 223 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: on the merits of that alone. 224 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 3: Now, here's my question for you. If you were to 225 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: poll Penn State fans in June of any given year, 226 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: and you'd say, how do you feel about James Franklin, 227 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: And let's be more specific, how do you feel about 228 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: James Franklin preparing this team to win big games against 229 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: the two teams that Penn State annually measures itself against. 230 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: What do you think the straw pole would indicate from 231 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 3: Penn State fans. 232 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: I think if you were to ask them, because I'll 233 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: have the same fans might have the same response about 234 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: Ryan Day. That's exactly right. Yes, that's exactly right. Everybody 235 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: is skeptical of their head coach. In June, I have 236 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: sensed an almost unfettered bit of excitement about this game 237 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: in the Penn State community. Okay, fellow Penn Staters and 238 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: for people who are listening for the first time and 239 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: wondering what is his deal. I'm a Penn Stater and 240 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: now Penn State is my alpha team because Notre Dame, 241 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: Notre Dame left. I have that, I have that position flexibility. 242 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, there is a lot of optimism about 243 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: this team at about this game, because it does not 244 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: feel like Ohio State is amped up to a thousand 245 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: the way they normally are. Okay, so there's a sense 246 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: that Penn State's defense can hold down this offense and 247 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: that they're good enough offense in their own right to 248 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: score points against a good defense like they did like 249 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: they did against Iowa. Frankly, different game, different circumstance. But 250 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm on Penn State. I'm gonna on the. 251 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: Road because they haven't done much on the road this year. Right, 252 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: they look sluggish against Northwestern for a half and then 253 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: slowly it's overwhelmed the Northwestern offensive line. But both West 254 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: Virginia and Iowa we're in state college. Yes, correct, you're 255 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: almost religious in this that you are just you're putting 256 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: a lot of faith. 257 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: I am. 258 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: You are saying, you know, maybe there's not evidence, but 259 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: I believe in the higher power of Penn State's offensive 260 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: line magically getting it together in Columbus. 261 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: One of the things that I got right this season 262 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: was Texas out right on the road in Tuscaloosa against Alabama. 263 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: And I'm going to hang my hat on that because 264 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: at least I got one big one, right. Yeah, I 265 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: was gonna say Usc out right big over Notre Dame 266 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: less huge huge. Didn't work. Yeah, By the way, I 267 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: have perhaps the greatest bit of a tease here, the 268 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: greatest fantasy thing ever conceived about this game that I'm 269 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: going to come back to later in the episode. Yeah, 270 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: it's the best one we've ever had. I can't wait. 271 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I'm going to Ohio State. 272 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: I have a lot of still I have a lot 273 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 3: of concern about the Buckeyes and high leverage situations in 274 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: the red zone, sluggish first half, like all of the 275 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: things that have plagued Ohio State in big games these 276 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: past couple of seasons. I think also ring true here. 277 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: And if you remember, this game was a really good game, 278 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: just after the crazy interceptions that began it last year 279 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: in State College. And if Penn State doesn't, you know, 280 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: set themselves back early, this should be a fun back 281 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: and forth. It should be tight. It should be a 282 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: lot of fourth and two will he won't he? From 283 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: his own forty eight kind of moments. I just I 284 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: still think I'm going with the team that can have 285 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: a back breaking three to five plays in a moment 286 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: like this. 287 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: So we just agree go to our next big dog. 288 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: Three thirty CBS. It is Tennessee on the road at Alabama. 289 00:14:53,440 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: Alabama a home favorite of nine points. Interesting the thing 290 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: that I found in looking over stat profiles. Of course, 291 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: we've been watching all of these teams games for the 292 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: duration of the season, most of us have at this point. 293 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: What most people don't know about this matchup is how 294 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: similar these teams are on paper. If you did a 295 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: blind comparison, blind comparison of Joe Milton and Jalen Milbrow 296 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: of the offense, of the defense, of the profiles of 297 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: pretty much all sides of this, I don't think you'd 298 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: know the difference. I don't think most people would know 299 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: the difference. Okay, I don't think they would recognize one 300 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: from another because they are very similar in that respect. 301 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: That's interesting for this matchup. That's more interesting, I think 302 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: as an explainer perhaps for the SEC and where the 303 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: SEC is at in twenty twenty three, just there seems 304 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: to be some level of parody that we haven't seen recently. 305 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: We can debate whether that's better or worse than in 306 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: previous years, whether that makes for a more interesting Saturday 307 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: watching experience. But I like the novelty, I'd say, but 308 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: it is different, you know, I don't know if it's 309 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: better or worse, but it is different. So the story 310 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: time for me is this. The story time for me 311 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: is last Saturday, about midway through the first half, I 312 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: tweeted this is when BAMA was starting to run away 313 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: with it against Arkansas. I tweeted out that zombie Alabama. Right, 314 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: did nothing in the second half. Yeah, talked about, hey guys, 315 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: zombie Alabama's back. And I was really proud of myself 316 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: because I said, time of undeath, get it, time of No. 317 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm with the time of undeath. First half, Week seven, 318 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: whatever last week was. Then Arkansas came back. Yeah did 319 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: nothing in the second half, right ARKUSLA came back. BAMA 320 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: was sort of hanging on for the win. Their offense 321 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: went into a shell. And looking back on that, when 322 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: I was doing the prep for this week, sort of 323 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: dawned on me, like between the miss Betts last week 324 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: and the little stuff like this, I may actually have 325 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: real jinxing powers. Yeah, it may actually Like people think 326 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing it just to sort of play a bit 327 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: and a character and all that, I may actually have 328 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: this within me. And so my question to you is, 329 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: who do you want to win this game? Who do people? 330 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 4: Who? 331 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: Do people listening want to win this game? Because if 332 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: this is truly something that I have unharnessed deep within 333 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: me in my marrow, I'm a content producer, man, I 334 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: need to monetize. I need to monetize this in a 335 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: way that I have not previously. So I'll turn it 336 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: over to you. You tell me what you want to happen, 337 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: and then I'm just gonna go the other way, because 338 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: I honestly I looked at this game up and down. 339 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: My initial gut was nine points is too many because 340 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: Tennessee's got a good defense and Bama scores like twenty 341 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: six points at most against good defense. Yeah, nine points 342 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: in a low scoring game feels like you would want 343 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: to take Tennessee there. That was my initial read on it. 344 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: But I'll defer to you here and you could tell 345 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: me what you think. What you want to happen, and 346 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm just going to go the other way see if 347 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: it wor again. 348 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: Okay, So the connective tissue right now is you're right 349 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 3: that both of these teams sort of behave similarly at times, 350 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 3: and they both won ugly against Texas A and M 351 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: recently Alabama a couple of weeks ago. Last week, Tennessee 352 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: both Max Johnson iterations of Texas A and M. I'm 353 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 3: gonna take Tennessee here because I think there is something 354 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: and I don't love taking Tennessee on the road, but 355 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: I think I would take Joe Milton's ceiling over Jalen 356 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: Milroe's recent ceiling or he doesn't seem to be running 357 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 3: in the same way and he needs two big plays 358 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: to win a game rather than eleven pretty good plays, 359 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: like I don't know if he has eleven pretty good 360 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: plays in him anymore. Whereas I think Tennessee's rushing attack, 361 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 3: Tennessee's defense, Tennessee's stability, which is a very strange thing 362 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 3: to say for a team that lost at Florida this 363 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: year and just a Tennessee program that has been anything 364 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: butt stable, I think Alabama is kind of in a 365 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: button breaker situation. I think their tummies expanding more and more. 366 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 3: You know, it starts breaker, a button breaker tie. I'm 367 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 3: I'm just coming up with terms here. 368 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: I'm just just okay, I like a. 369 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: Button breaker right there. They're getting bigger, they're swelling a 370 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: little bit weak to week. It's close against old Miss Laid, 371 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: it's close against Texas A and M Laid, It's close 372 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: against US F LADE, it's close against Arkansas. At a 373 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: certain point, the expanding not luck, but the expanding trials 374 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: and tribulations are going to come to a head, and 375 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: that button's going to pop off that pants holding in 376 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: all of that pressure tie. And I think it's Tennessee 377 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: this week. I think it's kind of ugly, but I 378 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: think Tennessee has the ends. I think Tennessee has the 379 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: defense to get to Jalen Milroe. I think the past 380 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: defense will be good enough to perhaps force those kind 381 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: of consistent couple mistakes from Jalen Milroe. And I think 382 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: Tennessee wins this on the road. And twenty one seventeen 383 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: is somewhere. I just don't see where the line makes sense. 384 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: And I really do feel that way that like you 385 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: can only get away with what Alabama has been putting 386 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: forth in these second halves for so long, and I 387 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: think Tennessee has the actual roster on both sides of 388 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: the ball, even with the pass the passing game not 389 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: there on offense. It's very much a different looking Tennessee 390 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: this season. But I'm still going with Tennessee here to 391 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: pull the upset on the road in Tuscaloosa because of 392 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're stable, but they're more stable, 393 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: which is very strange to say. Well, look, you you 394 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: know where I stand on this. You know where my 395 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: gut is on this game. And even before the season, 396 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: I said Tennessee's gonna beat Alabama, and they're gonna beat 397 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: him out right man now, But. 398 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: We're going to test this out. We got to test 399 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: this out. Not so fast, my friend, my friend, excuse Rand. Yeah, Alabama, 400 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: when you weren't paying attention, switched it up to an 401 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: elastic waistband this week, Dan, Okay, Alabama wins and covers 402 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: at home. There's my pick is my official covers. Let's 403 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: see what happens. Okay, see what happens. You're leaning into 404 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: the surest thing in college football picking strategy. Okay, the 405 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: opposite a George Casstan's opposite approach. We'll see if it works, okay, 406 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: but I share I share your skepticism. Again, the most 407 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: Alabama has scored against a top seventy five defense was 408 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: twenty six points. That was two weeks ago against A 409 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: and M. 410 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: Can I give you the most concerning thing about Alabama, 411 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: and it's not the close games per se. The concerning 412 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 3: thing is Alabama has a better roster than everybody they 413 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: will play this year in the regular season, including Texas. 414 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: They just they have a better roster, and just in 415 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: terms of the recruiting game, in terms of the transfers 416 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: that have come in, and I know the quarterback issue 417 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: is definitely an issue. Superior rosters should get better over 418 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: the course of a game. Sure, you might be able 419 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: to you know, and RPO breaks the right way and 420 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: you score a quick i've or even fourteen like South 421 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: Carolina date against Georgia, super accurate early. The better, deeper 422 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 3: roster should get better over the course of a game. Eventually, 423 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: fresher legs, fresher talent, whatever is going to separate. And yes, 424 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: we have upsets, we have all of that. But Alabama 425 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: against some of these teams that and look A and 426 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: M's defense has a comparable roster. But like Alabama's not 427 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: getting better over the course of games, they're getting worse 428 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: over the course of games. And so that to me 429 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: is almost a mental thing that this team is not 430 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: locked in for four straight cours. 431 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: They they don't seem to have the killer instinct in 432 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: the way that they used to. 433 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: Know that there's that confidence in just stay the course. 434 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: Things are going to go well, you know, and there 435 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: is no course for Alabama this year. 436 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: They're winning. 437 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: Winning is a skill, But I don't think you can 438 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: just say, yeah, Alabama almost double digit favorite, let's do it. 439 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: Not there now, I'm with you, and that's why I'm 440 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: going Alabama. Of course, yeah, obviously obviously last week though, 441 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: was I think case in point. Last week they had 442 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity to drill a reeling Arkansas team, a two 443 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: and five Arkansas team that's probably going to fire its 444 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: coach at the end of the year. I don't know, probably, 445 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: but they have one of the worst offensive lines in 446 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: the country. Now, it's bad, he's an offensive line guy, 447 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: But this is an Arkansas team that was reeling four 448 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: straight losses starting with BYU and of course now recently 449 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: lost the Bama game week ago. They could have drilled them. 450 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: They could put an Alabama team from two years ago, 451 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: puts fifty on that Arkansas team and they went into 452 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: a shell in the second half and they did nothing. 453 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: That tells you everything you need to know. So you have, 454 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: seriously Tennessee plus the nine. I've got Bama semi seriously 455 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: just kind of testing things out, and I have Tennessee 456 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: out right by the way. I just don't think. 457 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to lose close in a 458 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: rock right twenty one to seventeen Tennessee. 459 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, my man, all right, find a big Dog 460 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: eight pm on the Fox Network. It is Utah, It 461 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: is USC. Utah has won the last three of these 462 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: matchups and two two of the three were by wide margins. 463 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: They won forty seven twenty four in the PAC twelve 464 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: game last December. That was ye Kayla Williams hamstring. Yeahil 465 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: Williams hamstring. But the Utah's largest margin of victory ever 466 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: in this series. And there is a pretty big part 467 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: of me that wonders if Utah just has USC's number, 468 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: because I think our conversation is going to shift to 469 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: what is Utah's offense, what is it supposed to be? 470 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: And we can make the Andy Ludwig jokes, but I 471 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: just I wonder if if it even matters in this game, 472 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: if if Utah just has the formula for beating USC. Ultimately, 473 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: the reason I'm gonna go USC is because there's a 474 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: bigger part of me that wonders if Utah just has 475 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: the dudes at all for this. Maybe they've got the formula, 476 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: but they are getting literally nothing at quarterback and on 477 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: all on a per play basis. They've also been pretty 478 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: bad on the ground. So if they're winning, they're winning 479 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 1: because of aggressive defense. They're winning because the defense forces turnovers. 480 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: They're winning because basically they do three things right. They 481 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: forced three and outs forty seven percent of the time, 482 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: they win the field position, battles a little bit of 483 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: via with their and they force those turnovers. Like I said, 484 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: they're plus seven in turnover margin. Those are the three 485 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: things that this defense does really well, and it has 486 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: been more than enough in their games so far the 487 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: season to win in most cases. But in a game 488 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: like this where you got it, I think you got 489 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: to score some points against USC, and Caleb Williams, I 490 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: don't know that troubles me. Okay. 491 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 3: So if you look at USC schedule, the good things 492 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: that they did, I think came in those first like 493 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: four and a half games. Then the second half of 494 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: the Colorado game happened, and then the Arizona game happened, 495 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: triple overtime Arizona where they could just run straight at 496 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: USC and USC couldn't get off the field. You mentioned 497 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 3: the turnovers, you mentioned the forcing three and outs certainly 498 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: didn't happen against Notre Dame. I think Utah wins this game, 499 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 3: and they might even win this game by ten to 500 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: thirteen points Utah. Yes, wow, Okay, So the Utah passing 501 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: season yesterday we talked, yeah, two days ago. 502 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you were like, I think I just think 503 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: us he's better? What changed? 504 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 3: I sat in my meditation chamber this morning, okay, my 505 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: West Coast Pack twelve meditation chamber, Okay, and I just 506 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: thought about this. Okay, who would you if you were 507 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: a fan of one of these teams? Or which which 508 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: team would you want to be a fan of going 509 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 3: into this game? Would you do you want to be 510 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: a USC fan? After that Notre Dame loss, after eking By, 511 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: it might be a button, like maybe last week was 512 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: a button breaker and this one is a suspender breaker. 513 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: I don't know something for USC against Utah. Bryson Barnes 514 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: can throw the ball a little. He's not great, and 515 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 3: some of the stats are Nate Johnson throwing. Some of 516 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 3: them are Bryson Barnes. USC's defense is kind of friendly, okay, 517 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: and Utah has played some quality teams. They lose the 518 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: game too. I think it was Oregon State on the 519 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: road twenty one to seven. Oregon State is I think 520 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: a more complete team, even though they're not as talented 521 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: on defense. I think they're locked in and focus better 522 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: on defense. And I just I would much rather root 523 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: for Utah's defense in this game than USC's offense. I 524 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: think the results are there. I think it'll travel. I 525 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 3: think USC reeling after that Notre Dame game, where now 526 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: everybody's kind of piling on USC was like, where's the 527 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: offensive line? Kayleb Williams is trying to do everything himself. 528 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: The defensive line is not there, and we saw Utah 529 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: team get creative last week. I don't know if they're 530 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: going to score as many, you know, I think they 531 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: had thirty eight points against Cal as they were running 532 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: a lot of like double halfback, one of whom is 533 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 3: a part time safety in Sionevaki. Like, I think Utah 534 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: and their pass rush will overwhelm USC, give themselves advantageous situations, 535 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: and just do more of what Notre Dame did, and 536 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: that was have defensive backs who can run with USC's 537 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: wide receivers who have been somewhat disappointing this year and 538 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: beat up this year. I just don't know what USC 539 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: is doing to move the ball if they're going to 540 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 3: depend on Kayleb Williams doing that kind of thing against 541 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: Utah with less talent than he had last year, everywhere 542 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 3: else on that offense. So I think Utah absolutely can 543 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: methodically win this game, keep USC's offense off the field 544 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 3: by converting a bunch of third and two's. And I 545 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: don't think the juice is going to be there in 546 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: the coliseum after last week, do you? 547 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean people will still be a excited big game. 548 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: Dan is a big game, but I think the manner 549 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: in which USC lost last week I think took a 550 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: lot of wind out of the Trojan sales. 551 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to go the other way. I'm going 552 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: to go USC because I think USC is a better team. 553 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: I would never ever bet this game with real money, never, 554 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: because I think it will probably be right on that number. 555 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: I think the seven point spreads about right. I think 556 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: it's something like twenty eight to twenty one USC. I 557 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: think the risk for Utah for as good. 558 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: As Utah's now down another tight end, like they don't 559 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: have a lot of nothing later pass catchers. 560 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have dudes on offense, they don't. But 561 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: the defense is good. The defense will keep this game close. 562 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be a runaway train by any stretch. 563 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: The risk for them on defense though, is the big plays, 564 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: because they blitz a lot. I know they're also giving 565 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: up a lot of big plays, and specifically through the air, 566 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: which is Caleb William's music. That's what he wants to 567 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: live on and that's how he wants to beat you 568 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: by making those big plays. So you blitz him, he 569 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: scrambles around, he drives you crazy. Find somebody open down 570 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: the field who runs for a million yards. That could 571 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: very much be the formula for USC to win this game. Now, 572 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: you tub beat him twice last year and again, maybe 573 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm camorising Utah. Yeah, cam riising Utah A different team. 574 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just in my own head with this. I'm 575 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna go USCR. Right if Cam Rising plays, Does that 576 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: change your tune? I don't think so. Okay, I don't 577 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: think so, because I don't know what what status we 578 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: will find him in if he's out there for what 579 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: it's worth. If you google Cam rising injury status, you're 580 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: gonna start seeing articles about, hey, maybe a medical red 581 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: shirt in this seventh year makes sense. Cam Rising saw 582 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: that at this point, which is never a great sign 583 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: if you want to get him back for what it's worth. 584 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: Both both he and Brant Keithy want to get back 585 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: as soon as they can and play. They're not looking 586 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: for a medical red shirt. 587 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: But Cam Rising's gonna have his full dental degree by 588 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: the time he's done. 589 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be cam by the time he gets out 590 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: of there, correct, Okay, So that doesn't change things for you. 591 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: You believe in USC. 592 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: I just think USC doesn't really emphatically beat or maybe 593 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: even beat a team with its act together, and I 594 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: think Arizona has its act together, But that was still 595 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: a backup quarterback in the way. Obviously, Utah has a 596 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: backup quarterback and Arizona probably should have won that game. 597 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree. 598 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: I don't think USC is built to beat a team 599 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: with its act together, and I think Utah kinda does. 600 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: Weirdly enough, before we get to our next segment, shout 601 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: out Tim Buckley, the voice of all things whether in 602 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: the great city of North Carolina, fell a Penn stater 603 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: I believe will be at the Penn State Ohio state game. 604 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: Don't know if he can provide us. Provide us with 605 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: time weather updates. Don't think we really need that, But no, 606 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: here is what the weekend looks like with respect to weather. 607 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: Have listened, guys, It is mid October. You know what 608 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 5: that means. 609 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: Real football weather has arrived. That's right, Big ten West 610 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 4: style fifties and sixties for kickoffs in Iowa, Illinois, and Nebraska. 611 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: Find your perfect hoodie. South Florida crazy comfortable. 612 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 5: This is weird. It's in the seventies for Clemson and Miami. 613 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 5: Good stuff there. But Texas Coast, Oh boy, Houston in 614 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 5: the nineties hosting the Punghorns. West Coast looking good, Rockies too. 615 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 5: But in the northeast, our region of concern. Oh yeah, 616 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 5: clouds showers again. Bad news for the Patriot League. Guys Wednesday, 617 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 5: Ohio state clouds chill, couple showers possible, and we'll see 618 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 5: what our effects for game. 619 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: Thanks again, shout out Tim for doing that. He dialed 620 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: in and left that message on the reverbline, which we 621 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: hed you will use eight five to five verbal three. 622 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: We have switched up our Saturday evening slash Sunday morning 623 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: recording a little bit this year, and we are asking 624 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: for you to call eight five to five verbal three 625 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: with your roasts will be included in the week eight campfire. 626 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: Give us a good old fashioned roast that we can 627 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: mix together and play us not us. Do not roast us. No, 628 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: very sensitive and tender. Is that what I said? Well, yeah, 629 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: give us a roast. No, no, no, don't roast us roast. 630 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 1: I can't handle it. Unless Dan is wrong, you can 631 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: roast dam back. I don't need any more roast for 632 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: bad picks because I am unshaven, I didn't shower today. 633 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm wearing the hat as we record this. This has 634 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: really been weighing on me that I can't pick a 635 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: damn game right. So I'm just going to steer into 636 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: it and again perhaps monetize if that's what sure, If 637 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: that's what ROAs holds for me. I will do that. 638 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: Roast drive charts, roast coaches, roast games, roast moments, anything 639 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: you want or TI, let's get to our next segment. 640 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: I think like the heart, the passion and love. 641 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: The commitment and the energy you're willing to put into it. 642 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: What am I listening to? That sound is from a 643 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: motivational video out on YouTube from a gentleman named Thomas Platts. Actually, 644 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it's from him. It's from fans of his. Okay, 645 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: you know who that is. I don't. Thomas Platts is 646 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: the so called quad father. He had thirty inch quads 647 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: when he was at in his prime back in the seventies. Okay, nice. 648 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: So let's be clear what this is because there were 649 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: some questions after last week's episode. Some let's say, unnamed 650 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: streaming platforms which are not a sponsor but absolutely could be. 651 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: Probably would not want to, Probably won't. Yeah, they allow 652 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: you to set up a quad box when you were 653 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: watching games on Saturdays. You can watch four games at 654 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: once on your TV. You just get four rectangles, give 655 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: you some options at once. We are asking you, humbly, 656 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: as Soliverble listeners, allow us to be your Week eight 657 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: quad Father, build the quads. We are going to build 658 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: our respective quads the games that we would watch in 659 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: those four boxes if we could put together our dream 660 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: quad box scenario right here in Squat Sober. Is that 661 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: that's right? 662 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: Okay, You're welcome, everybody. I say what you will about 663 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: any other college football show. 664 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: Squat Sober. 665 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 3: We're going to activate the most robust glutes in America 666 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: here in Squat Sober. I hope somebody's squatting while listening 667 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: to this and their jaw just dropped. 668 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: This is how we get Fowler to call in again, 669 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: that's true, we had them on before. This is how 670 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: we get him to call the reaver blind because you 671 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: play sounds like that to intro a segment. Fowlers in. 672 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: That's how we get Fower back. Oh Man, welcome to 673 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: Squat Sober. PHU squat Tie Now, should you be my podcast? 674 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: I should be. I did some squats this morning, Tie. 675 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm ready. Let's talk about your dream quad box quad Father, Dan. Yeah. 676 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: In this year, early, Father, early early, I got more 677 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: sounds you want this from? My question to you is 678 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: how bad you really want place? How bad you like this? 679 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: I need these legs, Ty, what is your dream quad box? 680 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: Give it. I go to the beach in the summer. 681 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't want chicken legs here. I play some tennis. 682 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: I want the base legs. Tell me I need them 683 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: pretty badly. 684 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 4: Ty. 685 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: Okay, uh. 686 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: My early window quad is of course going to feature 687 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: Penn State, Ohio State. 688 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: That one doesn't count. That we already talked about. 689 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: Oh Okay, that doesn't count. No, Okay, So in Quadrant one, 690 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: I'm going ucf Oklahoma. I'm going to give those points 691 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: Oklahoma minus nineteen and a half. Okay, Okay, Oklahoma coming 692 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: off of a bye week, John Reese Plumley, John Rice Plumbley, 693 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: excuse me coming back for for the nights. But I 694 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 3: still don't like this defense at all, and I don't 695 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: really like him throwing into this Oklahoma defense that's been 696 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 3: quite opportunistic. So I'm going to give those points there. 697 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 3: I think Oklahoma can win by three touchdowns plus that 698 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: Squadrant one tie. 699 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm still laughing at squat Sober. Squat sob it's squat 700 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: Sober Festival. You have to have dumbbells. You can just 701 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: do like the handheld squats. It's not true squats I'm 702 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: a podcaster. You can do some air squats. Tie, that's 703 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: no problem. I can squat my body weight. Yeah, continue, 704 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: keep going, all right? 705 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: Quad number two. I have Boston College Georgia Tech. I 706 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: want I want one of these teams to win games. 707 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: Plural. 708 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: You want looking you want to watch this game. Okay, 709 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: So I've enjoyed watching Jamal Hayes. I've enjoyed watching Haines king. 710 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: And maybe that's just because he rolled out and nailed 711 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: a ninety three yard pass on the run to beat Miami. 712 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 3: I grant you that's possible. Yeah, I would like for 713 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech to throw some some fun into the ACC. 714 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: You have to throw their weight. You are sick. Continue, Okay, 715 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: those are your two. Give me two more and then 716 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: I'll give you mine. 717 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 3: Rutgers with a really nice back half the schedule, I'm 718 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 3: going to give those points. By the way, in terms 719 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: of the Boston College Georgia techam I am giving those 720 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 3: five points. I think Georgia Tech will win by ten 721 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: to thirteen points. I have Rutgers. This is kind of 722 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: a big road week for me. By the way, I 723 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 3: have the Scarlet Knights of Rutgers going to Indiana, one 724 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: of the most embarrassing offenses, if not the most embarrassing offense. 725 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: But I have New Jersey ties, I love New Jersey food. 726 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: I have Rutgers friends, So shout out Piscataway. I'm going 727 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: Rutgers here in another one of my quads. So that's 728 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 3: three quads right now, Yeah, one more, one more Oklahoma, Rutgers, 729 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. And for the fourth quadrant, I'm going a 730 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 3: rerun of Parks and Rec because I can't justify any 731 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: of these other matchups. No, if I were forced into it, 732 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 3: I would probably go air Force Navy just because it's 733 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: such a specific matchup. I don't love Navy this year, 734 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 3: but air Force has been a fun story and I'm 735 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 3: rooting for them to go undefeated. I think that would 736 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: be cool to see a service academy run the table. 737 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 3: So on the road, I think it's tough, and I 738 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 3: actually like searched pretty diligently to figure out a way 739 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: in which Navy could win that game. But you know, 740 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't love air Force's schedule thus far, and the 741 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 3: performance against the schedule hasn't always been great. But I 742 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 3: just I don't like the Navy defense. First year coach 743 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 3: so I'm going with air Force to win this game 744 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 3: by fourteen to twenty. 745 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to go air Force to win, but Navy 746 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: to cover because air Force flying across country. They're the 747 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: air Force. Though this was a close game last year, 748 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: air Force traveling west to east. Also without their quarterback 749 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: who hurt his knee against Wyoming. Yeah, so I'll go 750 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: Navy plus the points my quad is you mentioned UCF Oklahoma, 751 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm Oklahoma minus anything. A big part of the talking 752 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: point here on the show, at least for me, was hey, 753 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: UCF's pretty good. Well, then you look at UCF and 754 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: it's like they'd beat Kent State, Boise, and Villanova. Are 755 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: they though? Are they really? Are they really good? 756 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: And gave away some something fierce against Oh yeah, they 757 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: yacked the Baylor game away. Two games against Kansas schools 758 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 3: were not close. Got absolutely destroyed against Kansas. Maybe the 759 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: bye came at the right time. They're off a bye 760 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 3: coming into this game. But I'm inclined to go with 761 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: my gut and go Oklahoma minus whatever. 762 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: Second game in the quad box for me Mississippi State 763 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: at Arkansas. Uh, I couldn't do it. Arkansas's favored by 764 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: six and a half. They've lost five straight brutal stretch. 765 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: We talked about it earlier, brutal stretch. The path the 766 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: six wins for the Hogs has narrowed considerably, but four 767 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: of those five games against Power five opponents have been 768 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: one score affairs. So you get the entertainment factor, right, 769 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: Guaranteed at least some sort of entertainment factor here. If 770 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: that's something you're into Mississippi State off a bye I'd 771 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: probably take the points here. I think it'll be close. 772 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,479 Speaker 1: I think it'll be an interesting matchup. I am also 773 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: going to go Rutgers at Indiana. You don't want to 774 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: watch this game, but I do. And I'm not talking 775 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: to you because you've got it in your quad. I'm 776 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: talking about people out there. We'll watch it for you 777 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: and kind of report back. Rutgers can get Bowl eligible 778 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: in Week eight. The kicker, though, is that they kind 779 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: of have to do it this week because after the 780 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,959 Speaker 1: bye week they finish out against Ohio State, Iowa, Penn State, 781 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: and Maryland. So give me Rutgers minus the five on 782 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: the road to Indiana. Final game in the quad for 783 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: me is Baylor at Cincinnati. Okay, since he favored by 784 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: three and a half. I looked at the projections earlier. 785 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: Baylor's got a ten percent chance of making a bowl game, 786 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: which is not good. The offensive line has been a nightmare, 787 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: which has basically nuked the entire offense statistically. The defense 788 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: is actually worse. It's worse. So then you ask, why 789 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: do you want to watch this game? 790 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 4: Tie? 791 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: I want to watch it because I don't understand Baylor. 792 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell is going on. I 793 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: look at the numbers, I watched the games. I want 794 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: to know where it all went wrong in a hurry, 795 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: because I felt like this was a team that was 796 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: headed in a much different direction. This game, to me, 797 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: it's like one of those you remember the Magic eyebooks 798 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: where you had to like cross your eyes to see 799 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: this sail boat. 800 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 5: That. 801 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: That's where I'm at with Baylor. So I want to 802 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: see how they hold up against Cincinnati, which I think 803 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: could be the worst team in the Big twelve. So wait, 804 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: you think since he could be the worst team could 805 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: be twelve? They could be the worst team in the 806 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: Big twelve. Yeah, it's either them or Houston. You think 807 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: Baylor is better? I think Cincinnati could be could be 808 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: the worst team. 809 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, man, Baylor does so many things poorly. 810 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 3: Now some of that is what Sawyer robertson Baylor, and 811 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 3: I'm not blaming it on him per se, but it's 812 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 3: just more difficult with the backup quarterback. So yeah, great, 813 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 3: let's see what happens. That's why I want to watch 814 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: Baylor Pussy three. It was a very lure Leen Lumpkin 815 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 3: moment from you. Your wife doesn't doesn't understand you, but 816 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 3: I do that you don't want to watch this game, 817 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 3: but I do. I don't know where lure Leen Lumpkin 818 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,959 Speaker 3: came from, but it's in. Let's go in the brain somewhere. Okay, 819 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 3: I have Cincinnati there by the way. 820 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, let's go Afternoon Slate. 821 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to the pain Zonners where we live. 822 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to squat Sober. It's where we live. Can I 823 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: ask you a question on squat sober really quickly? Okay? 824 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 3: If you hammered the squatting the rest of the for 825 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: a month straight right with solid wife, Kate, Notice no, 826 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 3: like physically do. 827 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: We want to try this? Do we want to do this? Absolutely? 828 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna have to walk around in like 829 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: borderline skimpy clothes. Sure she would notice that, but I 830 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: don't think she'd notice increased volume in the quad area. No, 831 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 1: not just quad squats affect everything. Well, I get that. Okay, 832 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: squat sober. We'll work out a plan after this. Okay, 833 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: make your own plan accordingly. If you're listening to the show, 834 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: Squat Tower says dynamic giant asses. Now it's weird. Okay, 835 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: here's dick quad three point thirty. ABC. I've got the 836 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: Washington State Oregon game Oregon minus nineteen and a half. 837 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: There were a lot of fun early vibes on Wazoo 838 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: and then they got murdered a week ago against Arizona 839 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: and uh that was a week after the loss against UCLA. 840 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: Now they're back on the road against Oregon, a team 841 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: that clearly could have beaten Washington. We talked about that 842 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: one at nauseum. I think Oregon kicks the crap out 843 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: of them. Okay, take Oregon minus. Whatever's that's quad. A 844 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 1: quad B for me is South Carolina at Missouri. Missouri 845 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: favored by seven. Shane Biemer, I'm sure you saw it 846 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: was so mad that he kicked something and broke his 847 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: foot after the loss to Florida a week ago. I 848 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: am on the points though for South Carolina. South Carolina 849 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: plus the number, because I think this is a real 850 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: getaway game, a look ahead spot for Miszoo because they 851 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: go into a bye next week, and then after the 852 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: bye they come back in week ten against Georgia. This 853 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: is Georgia without brock Bowers. Surely Missouri players have seen this. 854 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: Surely Eli Drinkwitz is going to convince them they can 855 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: beat Georgia. And I think that is all to say. 856 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: They're not going to give a lick about South Carolina. 857 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: Slowly two and four South Carolina. South Carolina is a 858 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: play of defense, but they can score if you've got 859 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: a top twenty offense. So I think Miszoo probably wins 860 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: at home. But I think this is a fun game 861 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: where I like South Carolina to cover the other two. 862 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: For me, the floida Rosedale game. I'm going to come 863 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: back to this when I give you my bet at 864 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: the end. But Iowa minus three and a half at 865 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: home against Minnesota. The over under is thirty two and 866 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: a half points. Only eleven times since two thousand and 867 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: five has there been a point spread less than thirty five. 868 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: Iowa has played in seven of those games, which is nuts, 869 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: but they have. One of them was last season. In 870 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: this game, it was a thirteen to ten game. They 871 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: clearly hit the under thirty one and a half in 872 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: that one. I'm considering and probably will just bet the 873 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: under everything. But I'm inclined to take points here because 874 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: in a game that low scoring, which we know it's 875 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 1: going to be, I'll just take points. I like Iowa. 876 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: I'm just going to take the points though. Final one 877 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: for me at three point thirty is Oklahoma State at 878 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: West Virginia. West Virginia favored at home by three and 879 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: a half points. I am interested in this game because 880 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: it came out last week and said Oklahoma State figured 881 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 1: itself out and the Pokes won the game against Kansas. 882 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: That's the only bet I got right last week. So 883 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: now I'm hitching my wagon to the Cowboys. Baby. I'm 884 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: saying the offense is getting better. They have shown improvement. 885 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying that the defense has more than enough to 886 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: contain a West Virginia attack that I think is still 887 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: fairly one sided. They're better, West Virginia is better, but 888 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: I believe that this Pokes defense has stabilized after two 889 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: brutal weeks that we saw against South Alabama and Iowa 890 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: stayed earlier in the year, and I like Oklahoma State outright. 891 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 1: That's a pretty good quad. That's my pretty good quads 892 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: right there. 893 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going obviously Oregon, and I like them giving 894 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 3: the points as well because Dan Lanning has suffered some 895 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 3: embarrassing losses. But if you remember after losing to Washington 896 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 3: last year, they bounced back and beat Utah with Bonnix 897 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 3: on like a leg. If you remember, they bounced back 898 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 3: and demolished BYU after dating demolished themselves by Georgia. So 899 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 3: I think this is a team that will be locked in. 900 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 3: I don't think this is a team licking its wounds. 901 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 3: And I think Washington State specifically is built in the 902 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 3: way that Oregon would love for them to be built, 903 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 3: which is to say, kind of a thin defense. The 904 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 3: offensive line has been struggling going against an Oregon pass rush. 905 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 3: But we saw what they did to Michael Pennix in 906 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 3: the second half. I think they're gonna eat. I think 907 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 3: they're gonna be points off of turnovers. I think it's 908 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 3: gonna be over quickly against Washington State, and you know 909 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 3: they had they needed twenty two points in the last 910 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 3: three minutes to win this game last year, if you remember. 911 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 3: But I think it's gonna there's gonna be a different 912 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 3: rhythm to this game, you knows, and so obviously I 913 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 3: have Oregon in Quadrant one. 914 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: I have South Carolina. I have South Carolina covering like 915 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: you do against the Zoo. You like that situation, seems 916 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: like a good situation. Here's what I like. 917 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 3: I like that they they have an argument that the 918 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 3: best receiver in this game is not Luther Burden, because 919 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,919 Speaker 3: Xavier Lgette is incredible. 920 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: He's really good. 921 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, he run like he is a long strider, he's 922 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 3: a big body, and he's a great target for Spencer Rattler. 923 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 3: They're not built to win a lot of tough games 924 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 3: on the road, which I think this will be. But 925 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,240 Speaker 3: this definitely has the feel of a game that ends weirdly, 926 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 3: and so I have them covering in this game, maybe winning, 927 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 3: but at least covering, because I still think there's some 928 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 3: juice to South Carolina despite some of the results. I 929 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 3: have Toledo Miami of Ohio on the road. I have 930 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 3: Toledo winning this game out right as a one point favorite. 931 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 3: This is the clash in the MAC this year. Two 932 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 3: good quarterbacks in Dakwan Finn and Brett Gabbert. I like 933 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 3: this game a lot. I like that this game is happening. 934 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 3: I like the uniform matchup. I like Toledo here to 935 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 3: win matchup. Yeah, yes, they're a more complete team. I 936 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 3: think their defense will travel. But I love that we 937 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 3: have this headline matchup in this afternoon window. It would 938 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 3: have been actually cool if it were like a Wednesday 939 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 3: night maction where everybody was watching it. But nonetheless, that's 940 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 3: in a quad for me. And then I have Oklahoma 941 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 3: State West Virginia. Agree with you in that it's going 942 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 3: to be part of my quad, but I have West 943 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 3: Virginia winning this game. I think Oklahoma State, I think 944 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 3: their turnaround maybe isn't because of their defense, as much 945 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 3: as their offensive line seems to be protecting Alan Bowman 946 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 3: a little bit better and they've been a little bit 947 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 3: more creative on offense. I went back and watched the 948 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 3: Kansas game in its entirety, they did some fun things. 949 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 3: So I'm going with West Virginia just because I think 950 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 3: that defense at home, in that environment, I think they're 951 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 3: going to be able to get it done. They're healthier 952 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 3: on offense. So I'm going with West Virginia and Oklahoma 953 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 3: State has been at least a nice you know, late 954 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 3: September early October turnaround story. 955 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: I'll take Toledo minus the points. I'll take Houston plus 956 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: the points in the Texas game, I don't have that 957 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take Houston plus the points there. And 958 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm also going to take Pitt on the road over Wake. 959 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: Wake's favor by a point point and a half somewhere 960 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: in that neighborhood I thinka I think Wake is really bad, 961 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: really bad, and it's not great, but I think they're 962 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: better than Wake. 963 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 3: I have Iowa covering at home because you have to 964 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 3: you have to at least like something about Minnesota to 965 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 3: make that case. But I still think Iowa's defense is 966 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 3: going to score enough to cover that. I have Texas 967 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 3: covering on the road against Houston in a letdown spot 968 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 3: for Houston. Obviously everybody gets up for Texas, but they 969 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 3: went on a hail Mary last week against West Virginia. 970 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: I just you know it's going to be tough to 971 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 1: match that energy. 972 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 3: I have Wisconsin, even without Tanner Mordecai winning at Illinois 973 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 3: Northwestern covering against Nebraska because the thought of Nebraska's offense 974 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 3: giving fourteen points just doesn't exist in the universe. 975 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: That is my brain. 976 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 3: I actually, North Texas has had a really good offense 977 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 3: this year. They've been quietly like a really fun offense. 978 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 3: The opposite is true of their defense. 979 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: They've been a very bad defense. 980 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 3: They've loudly also been a very bad defense when it's 981 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 3: year one. So I'm I'm going to lane here. But 982 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 3: I had my eye on that as a reason to 983 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 3: take a dog on the road. 984 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: All right, final quad opportunity. 985 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 2: You have to achieve failure, you act to take it 986 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 2: that far. Nobody wants to go that far. It's too scary. 987 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 2: You know something, I got news for you. That's where 988 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: winning is. 989 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 3: Where the winning is, Dan, Oh my god, we're just 990 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 3: gonna have such like it's gonna be a Thanksgiving talking point. Like, 991 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, is ty walking with like a different cadence? 992 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 3: Is there something happening right? It's what is going on? 993 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: Why did you have to cut a slit in his jeans? 994 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: Is there a reason for that? You're gonna be going 995 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: to a big and tall store just to fit in? 996 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: What do you have in terms of extended seats. Yeah, 997 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: I love this final quad opportunity. Yeah, we both have 998 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: Clemson at Miami, right, I have Clemson at Miami. Yes, 999 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: Miami doesn't win at home. 1000 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 3: Clemson has the second act Saturday opportunity here that uh, 1001 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 3: by the way, I didn't realize I mean in watching 1002 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 3: Clemson games, you see it, but Quad one Clemson Miami. 1003 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 3: How how much there is a lack of explosion to 1004 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,760 Speaker 3: Clemson's offense down the field. 1005 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: Oh, it's bad, it's really when like that was. 1006 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 3: It's sort of a Sam Pittman situation where like, gotta 1007 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 3: have the offensive line, the goody dabbo doesn't have receivers 1008 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 3: year over a year over a year making plays downfield, 1009 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 3: And that was the whole fit. 1010 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: That was the whole thing. That was the whole bit. 1011 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 3: Yea for Clemson. And so I still have Clemson winning 1012 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 3: this game because of their defense and because TVD is 1013 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 3: like there's a weird thing where a bunch of people 1014 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 3: are like he's injured, and Mario Cristaball is like he's 1015 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 3: ready to roll, Like, m I don't know who I'm 1016 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 3: trusted in that situation. 1017 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if there's some gamesmanship going on there. 1018 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: But the line moved. The line moved almost instantly because 1019 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: the reports that TVD was seen walking around campus with 1020 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: an ACE bandage all the way up above his knee. Yeah, 1021 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,919 Speaker 1: but Mary Crystaball was evasive. As you said, I don't 1022 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: know what's going on there. I'm with you, though I'm 1023 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: on Clemson. I think in hindsight, the whole thesis around 1024 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: Miami has been, well, they've got pretty good defense, they've 1025 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: got they should be good along the lines, they've got 1026 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: a good quarterback, seems like they're starting to get some 1027 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: organization on offense. And oh, by the way, they beat 1028 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 1: Texas A and M. We thought a lot more highly 1029 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: of that win back in Week two than I think 1030 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: we do now, so different circumstance for A and M 1031 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: back then. But I'm on Clemson here. I'm on Clemson 1032 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: because I don't think Miami is as impressive as we thought. 1033 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: And of course, win the game last week against North 1034 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 1: Carolina did not really give me much to hang my 1035 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: head on with respect to the even the even the 1036 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: Miami defense. So I'm going to go Clemson minus the 1037 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: four points on the road. Okay, I also have Duke 1038 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: Florida State kind of an acc squad action as do I. 1039 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: Florida State favored by fourteen points. Riley Leonards still day 1040 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: to day, I think his status is critically important here. 1041 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: I have to believe if there is any way he 1042 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: can give it a go, he'll try. This is a 1043 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: big game. It is a really big game for Duke. 1044 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: I do think the defense is good enough to keep 1045 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 1: it within striking distance. And on top of that, their 1046 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: offense plays very slowly. They're going to shorten the game 1047 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: and that makes it hard I think to cover a 1048 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: fourteen point spread. So for me, I'm on Duke plus 1049 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: the number. 1050 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 3: I am as well. The night element of this scares me, 1051 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 3: but I like the Duke defense. I like the fact 1052 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 3: that Duke beat North CA. They beat NC State last week, 1053 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 3: right twenty four to three or something like that with 1054 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,439 Speaker 3: their backup quarterback who was like four of twelve through 1055 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 3: the air, and so that's always going to be difficult. 1056 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 3: But I still like Duke to keep it relatively close 1057 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 3: because I think they can make Florida State uncomfortable. 1058 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: What's your third quad? Third quad is Michigan, Michigan State. 1059 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 1: Oh God, bless you. So here here's an interesting stat 1060 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 1: Michigan has not played a team inside the sp plus 1061 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: top fifty all season. Technically, the best team they played 1062 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: was Rutgers yep I fifty second, followed by Nebraska, who's 1063 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: fifty third, followed by Minnesota's fifty sixth. Michigan State is 1064 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: fifty fifth, so they're nothing if not consistent playing fringe 1065 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 1: top fifty sp plus teams. They won't play a top 1066 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: fifty SPPLUS team until the final three weeks of the season, 1067 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: when they've got Penn State, Maryland and Ohio State. We 1068 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: have talked a lot about that on this show, but 1069 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 1: let me digress for a second. Please, Floris, yours way 1070 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: back when, way back when, when you were still childless 1071 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 1: and I was young and happy and less gray. Yeah, 1072 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: I used to talk often about the power of the 1073 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: de facto national championship. Yeah, and I think you combine 1074 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 1: that with the rivalry. What do we do in a 1075 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: rivalry just for the finals? Those records out, time out, 1076 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: combine those two occult forces. Michigan State is not making 1077 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: a Bowl this year, Dan, not even close, but they 1078 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: clearly care about this game more than I think Michigan does. 1079 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: So Michigan wins, but twenty four and a half is 1080 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 1: to spread. Take the points. Michigan State at home, take 1081 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: the points. Okay, home dog of the week. Where's my 1082 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: sound there? 1083 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 4: It is? 1084 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: Why not? Oh do you want me to tell you? 1085 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:07,320 Speaker 4: Why not? 1086 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: Home dog of the week. Let's go there. 1087 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 3: There may be whoever's playing quarterback for Michigan State might 1088 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 3: throw four interceptions into this Michigan defense. They're just not 1089 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 3: a team built to win, obviously, with all the changes 1090 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,399 Speaker 3: at the top. 1091 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, how doesn't matter. Rivalry doesn't matter, Okay, doesn't matter. 1092 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: That's my third quad. Final one is TCUIK State. Okay, yep, 1093 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: they're one of my quads because you and I are 1094 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: nothing if not Hoover approvers. Yep. Do you like that construction? 1095 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 1: I just came up with it. That's not bad. I 1096 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: like him. I watched all of the game last week. 1097 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: He's got a bit of like a three quarter delivery. 1098 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: They posted up byu last week. I mean that literally 1099 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: all they ran were posts in the passing game. That 1100 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: is all they did. They were all open, with the 1101 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: exception of like one or two of them. I don't 1102 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,720 Speaker 1: think they'll have that level of success against k State. However, 1103 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm into the story and I've always loved TCU, so 1104 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: I'm not picking them out right, but I'm picking them 1105 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 1: plus seven and a half. That's my final quad. 1106 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 3: My third quad is Ole Miss Auburn because I think 1107 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 3: the chaos potential is pretty high. I wish Auburn's defense 1108 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 3: were a little bit better. I would have loved to 1109 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 3: take an Auburn, but I like Ole Miss here. I'm 1110 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 3: gonna give the points on the road. It scares me, 1111 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna do it anyway, just because I think 1112 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 3: they have more ways to win. Defense is better than 1113 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 3: I thought it would be, and while Jackson Dard has 1114 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 3: been inconsistent this year, I think again they're multiple ways 1115 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 3: in which this offense can perform. Not taking Michigan Michigan State, 1116 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 3: although I'm giving, I mean in my quad, I'm giving 1117 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 3: the points there for Michigan, I'm giving the points. Texas 1118 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 3: Tech against BYU TCU Kansas State is my fourth one. 1119 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm taking TCU there. I don't love it. I just 1120 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a fun back and forth. I 1121 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 3: think both of these teams are still pretty flawed, but 1122 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 3: I like the TCUs defense in this spot against the 1123 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 3: Kansas State offense that has yet to figure things out. 1124 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 3: Weird that the offensive line has been an issue this year. 1125 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 3: That's just strange to talk about. 1126 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: With case State. 1127 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 3: So that's my quad, Clemson, Duke, Ole, Miss TCU, all 1128 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 3: road teams is where I'm picking in that game. A 1129 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 3: Super eight Saturday, a Samsonite Saturday for me. Otherwise, yeah, 1130 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 3: I'm taking Texas Tech. I hate it, but I hate 1131 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 3: BYU's defense and Keaton Slovas and an interesting winnable game 1132 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 3: even more so, I'm going to Texas Tech. There, LSU 1133 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 3: big against a bad army defense. North Carolina big against 1134 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 3: Virginia at home in Chapel Hill. Went back and forth 1135 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 3: on this one. Wanted to take Darren Granger and Georgia State. 1136 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 3: But the game is at Louisiana. I'm going to give 1137 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 3: those points there. I think they're more complete. 1138 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to be complete here, there are two 1139 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: PAC twelve after dark games. There's UCLA minus seventeen on 1140 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: the road at Stanford. There's Arizona State at Washington. Is 1141 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: there a hangover effect in play for Washington? 1142 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 3: I have both dogs here. I think Look, I am 1143 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 3: not positive that there will be a hangover effect for Washington. 1144 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 3: But if there ever were a case to be made 1145 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 3: that a team would be hungover and have a letdown moment, 1146 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 3: it would be the manner in which they beat their 1147 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 3: biggest rival or their most important rival, even where Wazoo 1148 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 3: is right now, and that they're both joining the Big 1149 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 3: Ten together with Game Day there on Network TV. Like 1150 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 3: with presumed Heisman favorite, ASU can do enough in the 1151 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 3: pass rush to me that they could limit it a 1152 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 3: little bit. They beat Washington last year. It's actually a 1153 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 3: revenge spot for the Hustle. They beat him in the 1154 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 3: desert and it was kind of a catastrophic year for 1155 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 3: ASU last year, and that pass rush did get to 1156 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 3: Michael Penix last year. I think you're going to see 1157 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 3: a little bit of that. So I'm taking the points there, 1158 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 3: not because I feel like ASU is terrific as they're 1159 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 3: down to their third string quarterback, but because I think 1160 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 3: they can get off the field a little bit and 1161 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 3: limit those opportunities. I also have Stanford covering at home 1162 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 3: and a letdown spot of their own, and for that 1163 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 3: twenty nine to nothing Friday Night cover, but UCLA and 1164 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 3: that number sixteen and a half with a turnover prone offense. 1165 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 3: Right now, you saw Colin Schlee getting in there last week, 1166 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 3: and you know, packages for the Bruins because the full 1167 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 3: trust in Dante More doesn't seem to be there yet 1168 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 3: or as much as they would have hoped early on. 1169 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: So I'm going to Stanford at home to make this interesting. 1170 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: All right? Those are all of your games for this week. 1171 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: All of them. 1172 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 3: Well, I fully disagree with that, because my request for 1173 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 3: you is to drop that big, stanky, tantalizing, insatiable drum 1174 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: end Fife. 1175 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: We got three pat League games this week, only three. 1176 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: They're three biggies, Lehigh on the Road at Bucknell d. 1177 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a second act Saturday for the engineers, 1178 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 3: Lee High buck Now, I'm gonna Lee High on the Road. 1179 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 1: How about that? I go, I'm gonna go Nelly's it 1180 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: breaks me. This is a big one. Actually, this is 1181 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: sort of for supremacy of the Patriot League. Well, Fayette 1182 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 1: I five and one at holy Cross four and two. 1183 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 4: Who you got. 1184 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 3: They're airing this across all of the networks like they 1185 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 3: do for like huge breaking news election cover something like that. 1186 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a CBS, NBC, ABC matchup with 1187 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 3: those bright lights. I'm going Lafayette on the road. I 1188 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 3: think They're a team of destiny against Holy Cross Saders. 1189 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Have been there before, Giving Cross Saders Finally three pm 1190 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: ESPN plus Colgate at two and four on the road 1191 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: at Multi Sport Field. 1192 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 3: Must we even humor with a pick when Georgetown's at 1193 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 3: home at Multi Sport Field. No Georgetown big, Georgetown Big? 1194 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 3: I think I agree, So I tease this at the 1195 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 3: top of the show. I have some fantasy things for 1196 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 3: you guys. 1197 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Oh Or's yours. So the first one is like, I 1198 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: don't know, it feels like this is a gimme, but 1199 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say it anyway. The fact that 1200 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: Drew Aller was mister football in the state of Ohio 1201 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Oh yeah, and he's now playing 1202 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: for Penn State. I can't even like. The odds of 1203 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 1: Gush Johnson bringing this up are about one hundred percent Gus. 1204 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: When Gus is prepping for a game, he is like 1205 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: a heat seeking missile trying to find anybody who was 1206 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: mister Ohio in their respective state. You will hear. You 1207 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 1: will hear that Drew Aller, by the way, play it 1208 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: for Penn State. But with mister Ohio in the greatest 1209 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 1: state of or mister football in the state of Ohio 1210 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one, guaranteed. Okay, big tasks from 1211 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: the Ohio kid. Ha ha. There is another possibility, though, 1212 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: that I am more excited about, and this is the 1213 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: one I was teasing earlier. Yeah, I am begging you, 1214 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 1: if you are out there listening to this show, at 1215 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 1: me across all platforms when this one hits, because this 1216 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 1: is the most I've ever stuck my neck out for 1217 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: a very specific thing that I believe has a chance 1218 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 1: of happening. Yeah, much the way Drew Aller is from 1219 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 1: the state of Ohio now playing for Pennsylvania. Both Kyle 1220 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 1: McCord and Marvin Harrison pulled a reverse salar and they 1221 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 1: went to Ohio State to play their college football, but 1222 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 1: both are from Philly. Both are from the same high school, 1223 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Saint Jose Prep. Assuming there will be at least one 1224 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: big pass play from McCord to Harrison, bear in mind 1225 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 1: this is Gus Frickin Johnson. I want to be the 1226 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: first to tell you that Gus Johnson, in that precise moment, 1227 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: is going to call that the Philly Special. WHOA, that's 1228 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 1: so specifically correct. He is going to call that the 1229 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Philly Special. It is on a silver platter for Gus Johnson, 1230 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: the Philly Special. I googled it, and nobody's done. 1231 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 3: It, has he but he's called all I guess they 1232 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 3: haven't played a team for Pennsylvania, but he's called Ohio 1233 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 3: state games this year, right, I think they did the 1234 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 3: Maryland game. 1235 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 1: I am telling you the allure of that Pennsylvania Ohio 1236 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: state conflict here, Philly special man. 1237 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 3: I think I don't have a fantasy thing as good 1238 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 3: as that. But I think if the USC game is 1239 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 3: going poorly, the pivot to Caleb Williams draft talk is 1240 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 3: going to be so precise and surgical that, like, look, 1241 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 3: sure USC is disappointing this year, do you think it's 1242 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 3: going to translate to the next level? You think it's 1243 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 3: going to I think that that is going to be 1244 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 3: like a back half of the season. If things continue 1245 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 3: to go poorly for USC, it's Caleb Williams the presume 1246 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 3: number one pick, and then the concept of Caleb Williams 1247 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 3: maybe is going to stay at USC so he can 1248 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 3: hand pick who he's going to play for. 1249 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: You do you happen to see the rumors that are 1250 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: out there that Caleb Williams may request ownership partial ownership 1251 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: in the team that picks him. Yeah, that's shooting for 1252 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 1: the moon. I think Aaron Rodgers requested that from the 1253 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Jets and didn't get it. Didn't get it, didn't get it. 1254 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 3: Call Look, listen, all negotiations have a starting point. Ty, Yeah, 1255 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 3: does he really want to own the Bears? 1256 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 4: Though? 1257 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 1: Ty? 1258 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 3: The NFL is bad team proof in terms of how 1259 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 3: profitable they can be. People show up to Bears games 1260 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 3: enthusiastically and willingly every week. 1261 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 1: So yes, all right, let's close this thing out, shall we? 1262 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: World Steve. 1263 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 2: Time versus the World presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook. 1264 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: So I need your help in naming this. We we 1265 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 1: did not name this. I threw out a name. You 1266 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: hated it. M I didn't understand it. So you didn't 1267 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 1: understand it. That's fine. That's that's what I'm good at. 1268 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: So the the game is Minnesota at Iowa. Everybody is 1269 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: dunking on this game because they're over under US thirty 1270 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 1: two and a half points. I believe they'll hit that under. 1271 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's scoring in this game, just like 1272 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: last year. So this pick is a combination of the 1273 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: under thirty two and a half total. Also the under 1274 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half first half total combined with IOWA 1275 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: winning specifically by a one to six point margin. Okay, 1276 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: three very specific things about seven to one. Now, this 1277 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: is the Floyd of Rosedale game. I posited to you, 1278 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 1: should we call this the Void of Pointsdale parlay? You 1279 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: didn't like that? 1280 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 3: No, I was trying to figure out what the connection 1281 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 3: was to college football, and I was thinking of, what's 1282 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 3: like the Archie and Juughhead show Riverdale. That's where I 1283 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 3: thought it was. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1284 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 3: no no, didn't have it. 1285 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: So what do we call this then? If you don't 1286 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: like that, if you don't get it, fine, but we 1287 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: need a better name for it. I'm putting you on 1288 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: the spot. But this is what you're good at. It's 1289 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: the punt Bowl parlay. 1290 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 3: The punt Bowl parlay. That's beautiful because you got to 1291 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 3: hit those unders you need. I mean, Tory Taylor is incredible. 1292 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 3: He's one of the best players at college football. Punting 1293 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 3: is winning parlay. That's too many letters to me. 1294 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: The punt Bowl parlay is beautiful. The punt ball parlay. Okay, 1295 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,959 Speaker 1: punt Bowl parlay again. Under thirty two and a half, 1296 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: the under sixteen and a half first half line, and 1297 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: then I would have win specifically by one to six points. 1298 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 1: As for other games here that I will just throw 1299 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,600 Speaker 1: out there, I do like Oregon big. I like Oregon 1300 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 1: minus whatever in that matchup against Washington State. Yep. The 1301 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 1: other game that I will throw in there, you know, 1302 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 1: just because we're going to keep things interesting, I will 1303 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 1: throw let's see, let's go Oklahoma minus the number against UCF. 1304 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 1: I think they win that one handily. And let's also, 1305 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 1: just to be complete, throw in Oklahoma State again plus 1306 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 1: the three and a half points on the road at 1307 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 1: West Virginia. So again we're going Oregon, We're going Oklahoma, 1308 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: and we're going Oklahoma State. Three to Oher's and the 1309 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 1: Punt Bowl parlay, Dan. That are those are my picks 1310 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: for this here week eight. 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