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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, home of the

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Speaker 1: modern white tail hunter, and now your host, Mark Kenyon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan, and this week on the show, we are

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Speaker 1: discussing everything it takes to execute a perfect shot with

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Speaker 1: someone who's executed more perfect shots on deer in high

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Speaker 1: pressure situations than anyone else I know, Taylor chamber All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by First Life, and we are continuing Shooting month today

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Speaker 1: and we are chatting with someone who has really perfected

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Speaker 1: the act of shooting more than almost anybody else I know.

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Speaker 1: Me and my buddy Tony, we're talking about this the

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Speaker 1: other day, trying to think about who would be a

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Speaker 1: think who does this successfully, who shoots perfectly, accurately, effectively,

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Speaker 1: and does it more often than anybody else. There's a

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Speaker 1: think there's anyone else I know in my circle that

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Speaker 1: successfully does it more than Taylor Chamberlain. Taylor Chamberlain, if

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Speaker 1: you don't know, he's been on the podcast in the past.

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Speaker 1: He is the urban hunting dude. I went and hunted

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Speaker 1: what that was all about. He runs the hunt Urban

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel, and he'll explains a little bit more when

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Speaker 1: he hops on here in a second. But Taylor's whole

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Speaker 1: thing is that he hunts in this area with with

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Speaker 1: And so he's killing so so so many more dear

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Speaker 1: and he has had so many opportunities to practice and

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Speaker 1: go and live through that situation. Right, I might kill

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Speaker 1: a handful of dear year. He's doing that at times

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Speaker 1: and it's got to be perfect. This is something that

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Speaker 1: really got hammered home to me when I spent time

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Speaker 1: all want things to go well, right, but he requires

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Speaker 1: So that's why Taylor is really just a great guy

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Speaker 1: he's really turned the volume up on every single aspect

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Speaker 1: So we do talk gear for like the first half

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Speaker 1: only has brands like First Lay or FHF or Phelps

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Speaker 1: game Calls, but we also are now stocking all sorts

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Speaker 1: meat eator dot com and then if you hover over pursuits,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see the logo for wired to Hunt. The

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Speaker 1: should know this already. This is where we have dozens

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Speaker 1: and dozens and dozens and dozens of deer hunting articles.

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Speaker 1: I'm writing, Tony Peterson's writing all sorts of folks, Tony Hansen,

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Speaker 1: be seeing all this on our newsletter we share every Monday.

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Speaker 1: point being is that I'm adding this little, quick, little

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Speaker 1: see this new archery target I just got about a

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Speaker 1: This is like a super heavy duty modular target. So

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Speaker 1: it's this foam. It's this heavy duty foam, but it's

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Speaker 1: This comprised of a bunch of smaller hexagon foam pieces.

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Speaker 1: My third recommendation is vortexas Impact one thousand range finder.

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Speaker 1: I was out at a property with my buddy Billy,

430
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: and he was hunting about a hundred yards from me.

431
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: We got set up and he shot a deer within

432
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: like within the hour being in the tree, and I

433
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: was Jack, were like, watch the deer drop, and we're

434
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: texting back and forth, and I'm like all excited. And

435
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: I was set up over um, you know, over a

436
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: well hub spot, so like you know, the little pipe

437
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: that comes out of the ground about eighteen inches where

438
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: it's capped off. And so this particular little little well

439
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: tap point was leaking. It was dripping water and the

440
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: deer were coming into it and licking the water out

441
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: of this little spot and it was a killer spot. Um.

442
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: And so this deer comes in, I'm all jacked up.

443
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: I draw my bow back like as soon as the

444
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: pin gets on her, I just punched the trigger and

445
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: just crack and she takes off, and I'm like, yeah,

446
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: I got one too. I mean, this was like very

447
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: this might have been my third or fourth urban hunt ever.

448
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: And the deer runs off, and Billy and I are

449
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: texting them all excited, and that deer turned into an

450
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: absolute nightmare recovery. We looked all night for it. Knocking

451
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: on doors, Uh really had a couple of incredibly piste

452
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: off homeowners. One of them ended up calling the cops

453
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: on me after the fact. So it's a very long story.

454
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: I won't get into the minutia of it, but um,

455
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: I knocked on the door, asked for permission to track,

456
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: was grand, permission went in and the next day the

457
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: police are to my house and um, the guy had

458
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: tried to resend permission and was trying to charge me

459
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: with trespassing, and I was like, you can't do that,

460
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, you can't, like give me permission

461
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: and then say no, now you're tress, you know, here's

462
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: your ticket. Um. But he was a powerful litigator and

463
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: was trying to pull some strings. It was just a

464
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: nightmare the guys. Inevitably, what happened was Guy's wife got

465
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: pissed that he gave me permission. He was trying to

466
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: handle it, but that deer was a nightmare and never recovered.

467
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: The deer really caused some problems in the h O

468
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: A UM that Billy had taken me to uh to hunt,

469
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: and I just felt sick to my stomach on a

470
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: on a multiple levels, on the fact that I didn't

471
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: perform when I really wanted to um and just kind

472
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: of like my own personal disappointment, but even more so

473
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: than that, the level of disappointment that I felt for

474
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: like screwing up my buddy's spot, getting in trouble like

475
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: with the police. I mean I didn't get in trouble,

476
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: but I having to deal with that, like causing that

477
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: issue learning homeowners to the presence. I mean, everything went

478
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: wrong or was wrong, and I just remember thinking to myself, man, like,

479
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: you can't do that again, Like you have to make

480
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 1: sure that that you're you're hitting these deer perfectly. And

481
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: I think that that was really important for me because

482
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: it kind of it led me down the path of

483
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: like really striving for perfection. And anyone who knows me

484
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: will will you know, agree that I am super anal.

485
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm very detail oriented and I'm always trying to reflect

486
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: on past hunts to try and figure out how to

487
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: perfect them in the future. And that's kind of like

488
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: in a nutshell, why my kid is so dialed, like

489
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: everything is so so perfect is because if any one

490
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: little thing goes wrong, that drives me nuts because on

491
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: oct and I try to fix it for the next time.

492
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: And I just kind of worked through that system. And

493
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: so this was like a major thing for me, Like

494
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: I lost sleepover it really upset me. And so that

495
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: was in September, and um, you know, fast forward to November.

496
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: It's the rut um and I had never shot a

497
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: decent buck before I killed like a little six pointer. Um,

498
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: like you know, outside of years, like it probably would

499
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: have been a future booner like a year and a half,

500
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: all the sixth pointer with a muzzle loader. And then

501
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: I had shot um one buck with my bow, I think,

502
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: but these were on like farms, and I hadn't really

503
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: shot like a good urban buck, and I really wanted

504
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: to shoot just like a decent at the time, Like all,

505
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: if I could have shot a hundred and eight pointer,

506
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: I probably would have mounted it like I was. So

507
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: that's just where all I wanted was an eight pointer

508
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: or better. And Um, this absolute giant hundred and forty

509
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 1: plus eight pointer, you know, Monday man like a sticker

510
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: off his rights to two. But I I didn't even

511
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: pay attention. Comes kind of just trotting through in the

512
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: middle of the day right under me. Um, and I

513
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: was completely unprepared. I grabbed my bow and I'm like

514
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: mat Matt, Like before I know it, I'm at full

515
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: draw and arrows in the air and it's over his

516
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: back and he's gone. And I sat on my phone.

517
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: This is funny. I had a BlackBerry at the time,

518
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: and I was playing that brick Breaker game on it.

519
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: Brick Breaker was the greatest tree stand time passing thing

520
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: ever and those Blackberries battery life is just amazing. But

521
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 1: I was playing brick Breaker and I almost threw my

522
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: phone out of the stand, and instead of throwing my

523
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: phone out of stand, I sat down and I wrote

524
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: down a note and I called it Taylor's requirements to

525
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: come to full draw in the tree stand. And I

526
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: wrote like a dissertation to myself of like you will,

527
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean like literally like in order to come to

528
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: full draw, you must and you will and and um,

529
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: you know those are kind of like the backbone notes

530
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: that have have really kind of grown over time. But

531
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: the the kind of general sense of it was like,

532
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: this is not You're not gonna put in the amount

533
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: of time and effort and dedication that you're doing to

534
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: this to just go f it up, and you need

535
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: to like make sure that this never happens again. And

536
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: that was really like the combination of that dough hunt

537
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: and then missing that buck like just drove me berserk.

538
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: And um, I still live by those rules today, right, Like, UM,

539
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: I really make a point to I will not shoot

540
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: a deer if things are not perfect, and I will

541
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: not shoot a deer if if I don't go through

542
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: these steps to take from from the moment that my

543
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: hand touches the riser of my bow until the until

544
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: that shot breaks. You know, I have an exact um

545
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: process that I go through, and you kind of got

546
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: to witness some of that firsthand. So we hunted together

547
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: one day and we had a pretty crazy hut, like

548
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: their deer everywhere, there's chaos everywhere. Um, and you know,

549
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: we had a deer come by rated you know, within

550
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: legal shooting light, but towards the last like five minutes

551
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: of it, I'd say, and she wasn't like twenty two

552
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: yards twenty four yards. I guarantee you I put a

553
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: shot that deer and killed it. However, it was not perfect.

554
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: There was a lot of stuff going on and you know,

555
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: sometimes the best shot you can take is not taking

556
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: a shot at all. And you know, I remember when

557
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: that deer left, You're like, why why didn't you shoot it?

558
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that there's too much going on here

559
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: and and the way like looking at her body language

560
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: and what's going on, and um, it just wasn't right.

561
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: And so but you know, that's how I've gotten to

562
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: that point, is like I've screwed up along the way,

563
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: and I've said these rules for myself and I'm just

564
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: not gonna do it unless it's unless it's perfect, because

565
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: I've just experienced the the wrong side of it enough

566
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: to know what can happen. And man, you might have

567
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: just said the most important thing that we'll hear all month,

568
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: the very most important thing that maybe everyone needs to

569
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: get right down and not forget. Is it Sometimes the

570
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: very best shot is no shot at all. I mean,

571
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: how many of us have felt rushed into a shot

572
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have taken, or like the pressure, I can't

573
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: let this moment get away. I gotta take the shot.

574
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different examples of times where

575
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure we can look back and say, man, she

576
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: should have held off. You can never get that arrow back.

577
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean I can point to many. Um. I mean

578
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: that is so important right there, regardless of any improvements

579
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: you make to your shot process, just knowing that you

580
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: don't need to take the shot and sometimes you shouldn't

581
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: when it's not right. I mean, that is that is

582
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: so important, because the the bad stuff that comes from

583
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: a bad shot is just not worth it. It's just

584
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: not And and every time, I mean, I you know,

585
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: I know a lot of um you know hunters and

586
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: our little urban hunting community here, and I help out

587
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: a lot on um you know, times where people lose

588
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: the deer, can't find a deer, or whatever. And I

589
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: would say, you know, almost a percent of the time,

590
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: like percent of the time, when I meet up with

591
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: somebody who's having trouble recovering a deer and I asked them,

592
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, so what happened, They're like, man, I

593
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: just you know, they'll tell you their story, but it's

594
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: always the same in the sense of they rushed the

595
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: shot or they they felt like they had to take

596
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: a shot at that moment um. And you know, I'm

597
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm convinced, like we're all predators, right like we we

598
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here if either we are direct ancestors or

599
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: somebody down the line weren't good hunters. And we kind

600
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: of have these like subconscious predatory feelings like you know

601
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: what to do, and if you have to force yourself

602
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: to take a shot when you're when you're everything and

603
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: he is telling you like like there's a reason for that,

604
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: you need to listen to it and not be like no,

605
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: like I've got to shoot him down, you know, because

606
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: that's when bad stuff always will happen. And maybe it'll

607
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: work out once or twice, but statistically, in for for

608
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: some trouble at some point, so just don't do it

609
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: all right. So, there's a lot of stuff you touched

610
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: on there that I want to dive deep into. I

611
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: really want to. I really want to know what Taylor

612
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: Chamberlain's dissertation on when to draw the bow and and

613
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: what all those perfect factors need to be are. Um.

614
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: But maybe let's let's start where I think maybe this begins,

615
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: and then advance our way to that. So, since you

616
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: had this kind of season from hell where you realize

617
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: you had to figure this thing out, was was was

618
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: your gear choice and tuning and kind of perfecting your

619
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: gear set? Was that a big part of that process?

620
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: I thought? Absolutely? So. So there are a couple you know,

621
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: hunting is part of what makes hunting cool is there's

622
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: stuff you can control, like where you're sitting, how you

623
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: got in there, what you smell, like, the time you

624
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: got there, like all these things that you can control.

625
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: But there's a bunch of stuff you can't control, like

626
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: the deer and you know, in my in my my area,

627
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: like what's going on around you. And so I tried

628
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: to maximize my opportunity to harvest the deer by perfecting

629
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: what I can control. And so when I thought about it,

630
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: one of the things that I can control is my bow.

631
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: My bow can be as perfectly optimized as possible. My

632
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: arrow can be as as perfectly built as possible. It

633
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: can be designed and set up two to have the

634
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: highest efficiency or the most forgiving both tune but also

635
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: like weight and everything set up. And my body, me

636
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: is the shooter could be optimized both mentally and physically

637
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: to shoot a deer. And so I set out to

638
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: educate myself on all of those factors and then get

639
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: the bow dialed, hit the You know, have an archery

640
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: site that was perfected. I had an arrow rest that

641
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: had the lowest probability of failure. I had a arrow

642
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: that was designed and cut and and made to be perfect,

643
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, even down to like my bow drawing. I mean,

644
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: so I'm a I'm a big guy, just like you are. Mark.

645
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm you know, six to I could I

646
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: can comfortably shoot a bow at a thirty one in

647
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: straw length, And if I was a tournament archer, I

648
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: would be shooting a bow at a thirty one in

649
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: straw length. However, I mean having that having your wingspan

650
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: absolutely maximized for me, and I think it's it's kind

651
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: of highlighted because I have really broad shoulders. But I

652
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: mean that's not where I wanted to be in a

653
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: tree stand. So I even kind of dialed down. I

654
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: fluctuated from like a twenty nine and a half in

655
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: straw length to where I am now, which is like

656
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: just a Scotia over thirties, so like thirty and a

657
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: quarters where I like around my bows at. But I

658
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: mean I went into the weeds on that. And so

659
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: for anybody out there that's looking to like maximize their

660
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: set up, you know, getting a bow that is is

661
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: a newer age bow, so it doesn't even have to

662
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: be like a you know, a brand new flagship bow,

663
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: but like just the current bow technology out there, all

664
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: the brands are awesome. Just get one that has, you know,

665
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: within your budget, and buying a used one that's a

666
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: year or two old is a great way to go

667
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: about it if you're tight on cash or if you

668
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: want to kind of like get the maximum um value

669
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: out of something, because they're all really good, but just

670
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: get one that has a smooth draw cycle, that has

671
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: maximum efficiency for uh speed, right, And that's where so

672
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: you know, like the older single cam model bows were

673
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: a little slower. But what what I'm looking for now

674
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: is like a newer The newer bows, the technology is

675
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: so good and they're easier to tune, they hold a

676
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: tune better, um and and especially with dual cams, you're

677
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: able to get more energy transferred into the era. So

678
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for is the most efficient bow to tune, uh,

679
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: and also one that will hold its tune for the longest,

680
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: because I mean, a race car is no good it

681
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: if it's only firing all cylinders the second that you

682
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: take the wrenches off of it, and then it kind

683
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: of goes to crap after um. And then I want

684
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: the most energy transferred into the arrow possible, So I

685
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: want the least amount of energy loss from from my

686
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: draw cycle into the arrow. And that's where the tuning

687
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: really comes in, is you're trying to perfect arrow flight

688
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: because that arrow is what's absorbing the energy, which is

689
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: obviously what makes it fly down range. Right. So um,

690
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, any modern bow, we'll check this box. And

691
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: and it's really important for people to go out and

692
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: shoot the bows, like I would recommend that people don't

693
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: go out and just max out, Like, you know, I

694
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: have a buddy who loves to shoot an eighty pound

695
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: bow because I think he just likes telling people he's

696
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: shooting eighty pounds, right, I would love to see him

697
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: draw his bow in February when there are nine does

698
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: underneath of him and you're trying to shoot one and

699
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: you have like eight layers of clothes on because it's

700
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: twelve degrees out right, Like, that's very, very difficult to do.

701
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: There are times that you know, if I see a

702
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: deer coming in in that same scenario, like I know

703
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: that I need to draw early, and I like, I

704
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: know that when I'm drawing my boat that I'm gonna

705
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: have to hold my draw for I don't know, maybe

706
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: like ninety seconds or so, just because by the time

707
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: there's deer get into where they need to be, I'm

708
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: gonna be exposed on the side of the tree and

709
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: and any movement will cause there's deer to bust. Right. So, um,

710
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: having the most efficient setup that you can have might

711
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: be a boat. That's fine. Like with modern technology, you're

712
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: better off with something you can draw smoothly, like horizontally

713
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: and easily. Then you are cranking up the weight and

714
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: putting the performance setting on like on your boat, to

715
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: where it's a very harsh draw cycle. So so when

716
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: you're maximizing your bow, you just want to make sure

717
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: that you have something that you can draw smoothly, that

718
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: you're able to practice with a lot. That's the other

719
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: thing is like if you have an eighty pound bow

720
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: and it hurts your shoulder to draw more than seven times, like,

721
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: how many reps are you getting? Probably not a lot.

722
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: And and we'll get down the road to that. Uh.

723
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: But you know, for for perfecting your equipment, you want

724
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: to make sure that it's you know, a relatively efficient bow.

725
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: So anything built past like two two thousand five probably

726
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: fits into this box, you know. Um and and but

727
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: make sure you've got new strings on it, good high

728
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: quality strings, and then learn about the bow to where

729
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: you can tune it. And so the next step that

730
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: I like to go through is I super tune all

731
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: my bows and um for anyone who doesn't know, basically,

732
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: that's trying to get the arrow to fly as perfectly

733
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: as possible. And so I go through a pretty long

734
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: process of bear shaft tuning uh and and getting that

735
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: bow dialed as as perfect as a can to where

736
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: like I can take it some bear shafts and I

737
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: can shoot them at forty yards and have them just

738
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: hitting like in a softball size hole. And so that

739
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: to me, I know that I could screw any broadhead

740
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: on the front of that to have it fly well.

741
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: But really what that's telling me is that that arrow

742
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: is leaving the bow as perfect and cleanly as possible,

743
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: so that when it does hit something in the event

744
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: that it hits bone, it's going to be pushing through

745
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: as straight as possible to really have that momentum and

746
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: kinetic energy to pull it through as opposed to potentially

747
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: deflect off. And so the general theme that people will

748
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: notice and all of my stuff is I'm trying to

749
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: to tune or prepare for an absolute worst case scenario

750
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: and have success still in that worst case scenario. So like,

751
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: if you shoot a dear through the heart, it's gonna run. Well,

752
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: that's a bad example because I actually have found that

753
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: if you shoot deer through the heart, they run further

754
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: than the lungs. But if you put one right through

755
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: the through the lungs, you know they're going forty yards

756
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: and they're dying. Um, if you smash one in the knuckle,

757
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: or that dear drops a little, or you catch shoulder

758
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: blade that I want to punch through. That I don't

759
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: want to have to be a probability or increased probability

760
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: for failure in the same vein though, if that deer

761
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: takes a step and I hit it through like the

762
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: back of the lungs or you know, I want to

763
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: make sure that I have a maximized surface area for

764
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: punching it through as well, and that my gears dialed

765
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: for that. So for the bow set up, we want

766
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: to make sure that that's as as optimized as possible.

767
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: It's tuned. That also comes along with, you know, I

768
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: like a multi pin site or the fact to know

769
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: that the pin that is set up on there is

770
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: exactly where it needs to be. Um, I will not

771
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: shoot over twenty yards, however, I still like to know

772
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: that if that, you know, something happens like I can adjust,

773
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: uh and and get an arrow at thirty yards or

774
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: thirty five yards or whatever. I just like having those

775
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: there's fixed things. If you're a guy that wants to

776
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: a single pin because the site picture totally fine, uh,

777
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, just practice with it when it's set on

778
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: the set yardage to then know where your holdover is

779
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: to where it ends up being no different than you

780
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: throw in a baseball if somebody is like standing at

781
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: a certain distance and you never think, okay, that person

782
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: is ft away, I need to throw this ball at you.

783
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: Of my capability or whatever, you just do it. Um.

784
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm looking for on site stuff. And

785
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: then from there, the only other component of the bow

786
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: is you, and so I try to maximize my my form.

787
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: I practice a lot with my grip. I want to

788
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: know that that my anchor points are perfect. So I

789
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: like to anchor. I shoot a hand hold hold them

790
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: less time out, last time out. I don't want to

791
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: get right there yet. Before I touched a few more

792
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: things on the bow because I want to go really

793
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: deep into your whole anchoring and all that kind of stuff.

794
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: But but with a bow, one thing that we did

795
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: I didn't hear yet. One thing I didn't hear about

796
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: yet was the styles of bows. Now, there's a lot

797
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: of bows that are shooting for being really fast and

798
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: lightweight for like a mountain hunter, or there's some that

799
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: are longer but heavier, and there's you know, different brace

800
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: heights and different things like that, and when it comes

801
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: to what you're trying to do, just it's quickly and

802
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: effectively kill a deer and get on the ground faster

803
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: and more consistently than anything else. What about a few

804
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: of those other bow factors? Do you prefer, like a

805
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: longer axle to axle, which is something I hear can

806
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: make you more forgiving or stable or anything on those

807
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: notes when it comes to pick in the right boone, Yes,

808
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: I really that kind of gets down to personal preference.

809
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot because, um, you know, I've shot

810
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: short axcellent axle boat. The current trend in archery um

811
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: for the trend in archery a while ago had smaller

812
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: cams on the bows, and so when you got those

813
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: in actually accel burs with those small cams on it,

814
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: the string angles got really, really really tight, especially for

815
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: a guy like me who's got a over thirty inch

816
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: drawing Like most of them couldn't even get there mathematically.

817
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: Now the cams are getting bigger, which allow for a

818
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: smoother draw cycle because they're getting more rounded, right, but

819
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: they also that allows for a higher string angle. So

820
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: if you measured like the Matthews, you know, nine inch

821
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: bow right now, out the combination of those bigger cams

822
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: with that longer riser that they're able to do because

823
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: these these limbs now are past parallel at rest um.

824
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: It really allows you to get a much longer string

825
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: angle with a shorter a T A bow. So if

826
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: you're a guy and you're gonna be white tail hunting

827
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: only um and and you know you have an under

828
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: thirty and strawling, there's no problem shooting a shorter a

829
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: T A bow. Me personally, I like to have like

830
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: a thirty thirty three T a UM with those bigger

831
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: camps on it. It's just something that I prefer. I

832
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: like those those longer um that's slightly wider string angle.

833
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: But that being said, I was shooting Billy's bow tex

834
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: CP yesterday. I loved it so because even though it's

835
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: a I think it's there's a lot more going into

836
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: these string angles that allow for it to be a

837
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: little deceiving when you think of just the axle to

838
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: axle bo if that makes sense. So um, it's really important.

839
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: And this is like the age old adage of like

840
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: go to your pro shop, go shoot a bunch of

841
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: bows and figure out which one that you like, Like

842
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: do not have a preconcy brand notion when you're going

843
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: into the pro shop as to like, oh, I'm going

844
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: to go buy or whatever. It's like figure out what

845
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: you shoot well and what you like, because um, all

846
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: the options out there are great. I mean, so this

847
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: year I had a lot of fun and I picked

848
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: up a flagship bow from every brand. So I have

849
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: the po Tex, the Hoits, Um, the Elites, the Matthews,

850
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: and the PC and they're all absolutely spectacular. I mean,

851
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: they all have different feelings. UM, to your point, some

852
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: are a little lighter. Obviously, the lighter ebo is the

853
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: more potential for vibration there is. The heavier bow, the

854
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: more master is to absorb vibrations. So therefore you know

855
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: it's more dead in hand. But generally, um, but just

856
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: some of the technologies on the bows are spectacular. I

857
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: think that the deadlock system that's on the bow tech

858
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: is the coolest thing ever for tuning a bow, just

859
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: from the sense of um, for anyone doesn't know, the

860
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: deadlock technology is this warm drive system. So like when

861
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm tuning a Matthews or an Elite on Elites about

862
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: example right now, because they have some similar technology. But um,

863
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: look at the new hoids. You have to shim those over,

864
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: so the matthews have If you're UM trying to move

865
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: the am on the axle in order to accommodate for

866
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: like imperfect arrow flight, the best way to do that

867
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: is to to move the cam around a little bit.

868
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: And so UM, you would have to press that bow,

869
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: take the cam out, take the axle out, change the

870
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: bar matthews the top hats around, which slightly will move

871
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: that that cam around. UM. But the boat te technology,

872
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: it's really just a set screw, and so I think

873
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: that's really cool, just because I think that will help

874
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: a lot more people get more comfortable with tuning their

875
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: bow because a lot of people, UM are intimidated by

876
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: the thought of pressing the boat, taking the axle out,

877
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: and and shooting those cams around whatever. It's intimidating. I mean, UM,

878
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: it took a lot for me to want to do that.

879
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: But the reason that you want to do that is

880
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: once you set the center shot of your bow with

881
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: the rest. So once you have that rest at like

882
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: sixteenth of an inch, UM, you want to keep it

883
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: there because that's the main power stroke. And so by

884
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: moving those cams slightly you're still keeping that power stroke

885
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: in the optimal spot. Now, once you've shimmed them around

886
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: and you go out and you're you know, you're bear

887
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: shaft tuning at like thirty yards, Well you're gonna make

888
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: one click on the rest. Generally that's not that big

889
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: a deal. But really with this technology, you can move

890
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: that that cam over I mean like six fourth or

891
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: an inch and it's no problem. So I think that's

892
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: really cool technology that is available now and it'll be

893
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: interesting to see how that progresses. But um, you know,

894
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: that was a very long winded answer of go to

895
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 1: your bow shop and shoot the bows and figure out

896
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: what a t a length that that you want and

897
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: also what what draw weight you want, because depending on

898
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: the draw cycle of the bow that you pick some

899
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: that are harsher, that are stiffer up front, you might

900
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: want that to be a little lighter. As smoother drawing

901
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: bow that gradually builds, you might be able to draw

902
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: more weight. So that's positive as well. Yeah. So so

903
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: on this line of you know, tweaking and tuning your setup,

904
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: one thing that we haven't touched on yet, which which

905
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: is a very trendy point discussion these days, is arrows,

906
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: arrow style, weight, all that kind of stuff, and then

907
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: and then broadheads too. Of course, the perpetual argument over

908
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: broadheat styles and all that. Where where have you settled

909
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: on those? What are the criteria that you're looking for

910
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: to get that absolute most perfect, effective, fast killing tool. Yep. Um, So,

911
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: arrows are obviously the most important component of your system

912
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: because if, regardless of how awesome your bow is, if

913
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: you're shooting a crappy arrow, then you're set up is crappy, right, So,

914
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: and that includes your your broadhead as well. But um,

915
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: I like a very heavy arrow. I like a uh

916
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: not a super micro diameter, but the smallest diameter, like

917
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: a medium kind of or medium small, I guess you

918
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: could say. So, I've been shooting the day six arrows.

919
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: I absolutely love them for a couple of reasons. I

920
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: find that they are very very straight, um, and I

921
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: like their component system. And we can kind of get

922
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: into too why I like that component system in a minute.

923
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: But what I do is I take a blank arrow

924
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: shaft and I will spin each arrow shaft and look

925
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: at the sides. And what I'm trying to do is

926
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: cut the worst out of the arrows. So, um, you know,

927
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: people probably don't know that when when you buy an

928
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: arrow that's a point zero zero one arrow, well, that's

929
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: only a point zero zero one inches out of rack over.

930
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: I think the standard in the industry is eighteen inches

931
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: of the arrow, so it could be way out outside

932
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: of that. But at some point of eighteen inches within

933
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: that thirty two arrow, blank is is you know, point

934
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: zers or one straight? Um? I believe that the only

935
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: companies in the industry I could be. I'm probably wrong

936
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: about this, and I'm sure somebody will email in practice,

937
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: but I know that Black Eagle measures the whole arrow,

938
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: the shaft, and I know that day six measures the

939
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: whole arrow shaft UM. And so what that leads to

940
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: is a straighter arrow out of the box. If you're

941
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: a guy that's got a straw length straw length, it

942
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: really it's less relevant for you because you're cutting six

943
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: or five inches out of that arrow. For me having

944
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: a thirty inch straw length, you know, I only have

945
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: two inches to play with, UM get out of that

946
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: entire shaft that I'm cutting out. So I need to

947
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: find the straightest shaft I can because the straighter it

948
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: is from a starting point leads to a um light

949
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: or finished products. So I spent them. I figure out

950
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: which side. Sometimes it's both sides are a little wobbly,

951
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: but I mark where I'm cutting from, and so I'll

952
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: either make one cut or two cuts. But I think

953
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: a lot of guys don't take the time to build

954
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: their arrows out, and they really should, because especially if

955
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: you're only shooting you know, one deer that year, three

956
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: year that year. I mean, like that's a lot of

957
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: effort that you're putting into your deer season and you're

958
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: putting all that on the shoulders of arrow or a

959
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: couple of arrows, Like don't you want those to be

960
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 1: the most perfect arrows possible? Um? I know I would.

961
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's important to take the time and

962
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: do it. Um. Do you want me to go into

963
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: the process of how I build arrows or just why

964
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: I I do it the way I do and what

965
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: I use? Give us like a give us, like the

966
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: short ish version of how you do the build and why? Um,

967
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: because I think that's probably there's a segment of folks

968
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: that would be interested in getting deep on that. So

969
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: let's hear that, but let's not do an hour of it.

970
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: So so once. Once I mark where the worst is

971
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: on the arrow, the part that's spinning out's wobbling, I'll

972
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: mark to cut that off, and I will either cut

973
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: from one side or two sides, depending on what that

974
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: shaft needs. So I just have a silver sharpie. It's

975
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: pretty easy to just scribble on it. Once you cut those,

976
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: it's important to square birth ends of the shaft off

977
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: and then clean the carbon dust out of them. And

978
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: so what I'm doing, I'm squaring them off so that

979
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: you know either the knock or the broadhead that's on

980
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: there is matching up perfectly. Square the knocking. It's very

981
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: important obviously because if the air energy isn't getting transferred

982
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: equally onto the back, then it could affect arrow flight.

983
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: And then obviously the broadhead, if it's wobbling, it's not

984
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna fly true, So very important to square those up, uh,

985
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: and then I clean out all that carbon dust because

986
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: if you have a bunch of carbon dust in there,

987
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: you're not going to have good adhesion of the um

988
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: glue that goes in there. So the Day six heads

989
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: in particular, I like because of the fact that they

990
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: have this insert outsert system. So it's an insert that

991
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: goes into the carbon arrow, but the outsert collar goes

992
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: on the outside. And so what that does that I

993
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: really like, it's two things. One, when I put that

994
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: head together, I put a little bit of glue. It's

995
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: screws together the exterior collar and the inside. So I

996
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 1: put a little bit of glue on that and screw

997
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: it together so they're bonded before they go in. And

998
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: then what I'll do is when you put the glue

999
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: in it and squeeze it in by using that insert part.

1000
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: By going into the arrow, you're using the interior straightness

1001
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: of the arrow, which is easier to get straighter than

1002
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: the exterior, so you have a higher likelihood of that

1003
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: collar going on perfectly square. But then that exterior collar

1004
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 1: helps too, because not only is it protecting the arrow,

1005
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: it's holding the outside straight now, so what you're doing

1006
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: is you're getting a much flusher mount straight. And then

1007
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: what's even cooler is you get this like reverse vacuum

1008
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: effect when you do that, So the glue that's in

1009
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: there ends up squirting out on the inside of that collar,

1010
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: and you have this amazing adhesion both on the inside

1011
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: and outside. So in Layman's terms, what I'm doing is

1012
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting a collar that's super stuck on and very

1013
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: square and and it's just I'm trying to make them

1014
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: as bullet proof arrow possible. So I'm shooting like a

1015
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: five grain arrow, um, and I'm shooting that with about

1016
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: an eight fo C. And I've found that to be

1017
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: a really really good sweet spot for me. So my

1018
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:08,959
Speaker 1: bows will shoot that around two seventy five second um.

1019
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: And I just find that there's not much that that, uh,

1020
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: that that can hit and not be just very deadly

1021
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: to There's not much it's not going to punch through

1022
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: and if anything, And and also you know what people

1023
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: I think don't also realize is the quieter or excuse me,

1024
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: the heavier your arrow is, the quieter your bow is

1025
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: because there's less energy that's not getting absorbed by that arrow.

1026
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: So uh, and it also makes an arrow fly much truer.

1027
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: So um again, I'm increasing my my my probability for

1028
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: a harvest and trying to increase my my kind of

1029
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: bailout zone, if you will, by doing that. The final

1030
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: component then, though, to that arrow is what you screw

1031
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: onto the end of it. Uh. What's your criteria for

1032
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: the absolutely most defective broadhead for your type of hunt.

1033
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: So I've been through all different schools of thought and

1034
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: um on broadheads I've shot for a while. I shot expandables,

1035
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: I shot the I shot the I like the rear

1036
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: deploying expandables because I think that that uses less energy

1037
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: than over the top expandable. Um. However, my concern with

1038
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: an expandable is if you hit bone to our toast

1039
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: generally even got blades breaking off or um, yeah, you're

1040
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: not gonna get penetration. So if you hit back on

1041
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: an animal, then you're great. And so some guys would

1042
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: be like, well, I just need to make sure I'm

1043
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: not going to hit bone, Okay, Like I understand that

1044
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: school thought, but you can't ensure that that's going to happen, right,

1045
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: And so I don't want to have half of the

1046
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: animal exposed to playing defense and actually potentially winning. So

1047
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: I shoot a big fixed blade head. So um, when

1048
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a fixed blade head, I really want

1049
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: the maximum kind of like unity on it. I wanted

1050
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: to be as strong as possible. The two heads I

1051
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: really like. I like the Day six head a lot um.

1052
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: I like the way that the blade is shaped. I

1053
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: like that it's solid because it there aren't events there

1054
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,959
Speaker 1: to catch wind and make a lot of noise. And

1055
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: part of the reason that I go through the tuning

1056
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: process that I do is to be able to shoot

1057
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: the biggest head possible. And also, I mean again, I'm

1058
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: not shooting sixty yards. When I go out west on

1059
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: a hunt, I will shoot a different head generally than

1060
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: one I'm shooting in the burbs, um, because I know

1061
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: they're like a six yard shot ad R shot might

1062
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: be a possibility, um, but in the burb specifically, I

1063
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: like the day six head. They have a eco X

1064
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: It's at one point to five inch and I shoot

1065
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: that with a three quarter inch bleeder on it, and

1066
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean that puts a pretty pretty gnarly hole through anything. UM.

1067
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: I also like the the Slick Trick heads, the Grace

1068
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: Trick two's. Um. Those are an Internet quarter by an

1069
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: Internet quarter cut. And so what I found is that

1070
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: you can actually get a bigger hole with those two

1071
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: heads than one. An expandable would give you so more

1072
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: blood loss, more trauma rapidly. However, um, it will also

1073
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: blow through bone if you hit it, and if you

1074
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: happen to hit an animal back or not hit one

1075
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: where you want it. You have more forgiveness in your

1076
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: in your shop place because of that big hole. So

1077
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: I I really like a fixed blade head. Um. I

1078
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: shot the ram cats for a little while. I like

1079
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: the ram cats a lot, the grains with the bigger

1080
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: cutting diameter, But what I did not like about those

1081
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: was the blades are are literally so big. They're hard

1082
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: to get in and out of a quiver and if

1083
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: you like pull back on one a little bit, the

1084
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: blade will will kind of kick back and then it's loose.

1085
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: So um, I end up pulling those those out. But

1086
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: the slick tricks are awesome, and the day six heads

1087
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 1: are awesome as well. I really like the steel that's

1088
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: used in the Day six heads, and they are tough

1089
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: as hell. I had one broad head that I wanted

1090
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: to see how many critters I could shoot with it

1091
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: last year, and I think I got into like over

1092
01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: twentysome deer with one head before it finally broke the

1093
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: tip when it blew through the deer and hit a

1094
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: chunk of granite on the back side of the courts

1095
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me, on the back side of the deer,

1096
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: and that broadhead went into that quartz rock and split it,

1097
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: and when I dug it out that the tip had

1098
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: broken off like like just kind of slightly very impressive

1099
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: for what it had done. Um, but with that setup,

1100
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: that allows me to actually shoot gear in the lower

1101
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: front pocket. And so I will literally, like knowingly, if

1102
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm on a tight property, pop that deer through its

1103
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: front kind of landing gear, if you will. So it

1104
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: renders the front legs useless and they then kind of

1105
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: snowplow off kind of like when a fighter jet lands

1106
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: on a aircraft carrier. Like That's what I'm going for,

1107
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: is like they're using their chest to stop them so

1108
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: they don't have their front legs to where they can

1109
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: run off further. Yeah. Yeah, thats uh. Last gear question.

1110
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: A lot of talk these days about releases. It's something

1111
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: I've been bouncing around out a lot recently. Is I've

1112
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: been trying to change things and figure stuff out and

1113
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: improve my whole system. Where do you land on releases

1114
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: and balancing the ease of use of some versus the

1115
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: way some will force you nut to punch the trigger

1116
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: versus all the other criteria. Yeah. So, um, I love

1117
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: shooting a hinge, So I shoot a handheld release. I

1118
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: got to shooting a handheld release because I did not

1119
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: like having a wrist release on my wrist to where

1120
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: I clank around while I'm climbing up the tree um

1121
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: or have a potential for noise. And I also I

1122
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: didn't want to get caught in a scenario where I'm

1123
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: playing on my phone and a gear comes in and

1124
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: now I have to like move my camera over, grab

1125
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: my bow and fishness release out of my collar or whatever. So, UM,

1126
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: I love shooting a hinge, but I have yet to

1127
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: find a way to comfortably let my hinge like rest

1128
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 1: on my de loop while I'm high. Um. And so

1129
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: I just previously I would just hunt with a regular

1130
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: thumbheld thumb button release and make sure I shot it well.

1131
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: But um, like other people, I've suffered from target panic

1132
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: over the years and really kind of worked through that.

1133
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: And and we'll kind of get to that when we

1134
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: talked about the shooting process. But UM, I recently picked

1135
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: up a couple of resistance releases. So for me, my

1136
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: like overall theory is if I cannot have to think

1137
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: about the back half of my shot process, whether that

1138
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: be squeezing a trigger or ray taking a release or

1139
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, I can just kind of like have

1140
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: a a macro feeling if you will, in that back half.

1141
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: But so uh that from my hinge, that's just kind

1142
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: of like slowly pulling on my ring finger and then

1143
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: it just breaks right. Um. With a resistance release, it's

1144
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: just kind of pulling back. Whether it's up to the

1145
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: individual archer what they like to think about, but for me,

1146
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: I want like a big body movement back there. That's

1147
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: all I want to think about, because then I can

1148
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: just kind of subconsciously be doing that and aim. And

1149
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: so I picked up some of these newer stand resistance releases,

1150
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: and I absolutely love them. They clip on the bow,

1151
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: they have a safety mechanism, so I know they're not

1152
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: going to go off unless they um are told to

1153
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: do so. And uh, for me, I can just focus

1154
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: on on my shot process and not have to. I'm

1155
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: eliminating the probability or the potential for punching the trigger

1156
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: and so that's me is a big deal. But big

1157
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: caveat big asters on that. If you're going to do that,

1158
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: you have to practice and put in the time. You

1159
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: cannot just roll out to the woods with a resistance

1160
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: or hinge release. And and try to hunt with it,

1161
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: because I think like, even for me, in the first

1162
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: couple of times that I shot deer with it, Uh,

1163
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: there was this weird feeling of like, I know, I

1164
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: want to shoot now, but it's not shooting, and um,

1165
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: it can make some panics set it. So, Uh, if

1166
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, I highly recommend it, But it

1167
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: takes time and practice before you're ready to just go

1168
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: climate tree and hunt work them. Yeah, well let's talk

1169
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: about that. Then let's talk about practice. You've got your

1170
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: bow tune, You've got your gear set up just perfect. Uh,

1171
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: next thing is is getting ready for the season and

1172
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: really fine tuning you the shooter. What are you doing

1173
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: to take that to a different level? Yep, once your

1174
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: years too. I will not shoot an arrow even in

1175
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: practice without going through my shot process. I would rather

1176
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: shoot twenty arrows in a in a shooting session that

1177
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: are perfect and then go shoot a hundred arrows where

1178
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm actually ingraining bad habits into my my my process

1179
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 1: because I'm just like flinging arrows, right. And so that's

1180
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: the most common mistake I see people make is they're

1181
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: just going out to shoot, but they're not shooting with

1182
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: a purpose. And every time you're out practicing, your purpose

1183
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: should be kind of like honing your skill set or

1184
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: sharpening your sword, if you will, for hunting. So I

1185
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: go through my shot process every single time that I'm

1186
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 1: shooting an arrow, and I would highly highly recommend and

1187
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: suggest that anybody listening to this does the same because

1188
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: it will make it that much easier to kind of

1189
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: flip into kill mode when you're ready to do so. Um.

1190
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: So when I go out shooting, I'm taking my time.

1191
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really focusing on my form. I'm focusing on

1192
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: on my process and making sure that it's as perfect

1193
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: as possible. And I'm burying my yardages as well. And

1194
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: and the last thing that I'll say is like practice

1195
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: like you play, right. I mean, I'm a big savo hunter.

1196
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: I will I have a tree set up in my

1197
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: yard where I climb up in a tree. I'll bring

1198
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,839
Speaker 1: like five arrows up and I'm gonna shoot five perfect errors.

1199
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to just bring fifty arrows up there

1200
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: and just fling them right. Um, And and practice your weaknesses, right.

1201
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: So the last thing that I want to do is

1202
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: have a deer come in at a certain spot when

1203
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm in the saddle and be like, oh no, you know,

1204
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: I want to have a deer standard spot and be

1205
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: like licking my chops, like, hell yeah, I've practiced this

1206
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: a billion times. That guy's toast. I mean confidence is key,

1207
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: um in all of this, So try and kind of

1208
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: work through. What I do is I I figure out

1209
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: where I'm weakest, and I practice that the most, and

1210
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: then um and then practice all around. So I'll kind

1211
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: of like take my saddle even if I'm only two

1212
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: ft off the ground, like I'm just one stick up

1213
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: with my platform there, I'll clip in and I'll shoot it,

1214
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: you know, ten o'clock, I'll shoot it. Nine o'clock, I'll

1215
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: drop around to eight. I'll throw a deer targeting over

1216
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: at like three o'clock and I'll spin around and shoot that.

1217
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: But I don't ever want to be in a scenario

1218
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: in the woods that intimidates me. I want to have

1219
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: the confidence that, like, if if that dear that I'm

1220
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: chasing shows up, he is toast because I've put in

1221
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: the work and and I know that, uh, that I'm

1222
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: capable of being successful. It's almost practice. Do you think

1223
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: is enough? Taylor? Like, what's that amount to keep you

1224
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: a finely tuned machine. Um, well, I think that varies

1225
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: by the individual. But for me, if i have a

1226
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: couple practice sessions a week, then I'm good and and

1227
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: I think that I'm kind of an anomaly because I'm

1228
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: shooting gear every week, right, so I don't ever have

1229
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: an office. Um, if I did have an off season,

1230
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: I would say that there's a lot of work required

1231
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: two kind of hone your skill set and get back

1232
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: to um like hunt ready form. So but the fact

1233
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: that I'm able to go out and and shoot a

1234
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: couple of geer a week, you know, I'm always kind

1235
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: of at peak form. But um, people should have kind

1236
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: of a game plan for getting geared up for the

1237
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: season and you know, develop your system, figure out what

1238
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: your shot process is going to be. And then I'd

1239
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: say shooting two to three times a week at the

1240
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: appropriate practice level is what would be required to get

1241
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: to that that like peak performance special forces kind of

1242
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: hunter mindset. Now what about you know practice. It's it's

1243
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: interesting because there's certain elements that practice is really good for,

1244
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: like this the generic stand in the backyard, shoot some arrows,

1245
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: Like there's a certain just you gotta have your muscles,

1246
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: you know, feeling right. They need to be getting enough

1247
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: reps just so that your body can do the things

1248
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: that needs to do. But then there's this other side

1249
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: of practice, which I think is maybe a little bit

1250
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: more mental, which is how can you practice for the

1251
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: mental stress of a high pressure, real dear situation. Is

1252
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: there anything you do in your practice sessions UM to

1253
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: help you simulate and prepare for the moment of truth

1254
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: different than just shooting twenty I think I think shooting

1255
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: tournament archery is the greatest way for people to put

1256
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: themselves under stressful situations and figure out how to perform. So,

1257
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's no difference in trying to

1258
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: shoot like a perfect three five spot game or going

1259
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: to shoot three D with your buddies and you know,

1260
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: feeling that pressure and wanting to be successful. So I'll

1261
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: shoot a lot of three D stuff. I mean, I'm

1262
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: not like a I don't compete in three D tournaments.

1263
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: But I'll go out with my buddies and I'll bring

1264
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: my range finder and like I have my chest rigg

1265
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 1: on like I would hunt with. I'm ranging targets, UM drawing,

1266
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: and I'm going through my shot process and we're all competing,

1267
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: and and that kind of stress level is fantastic to

1268
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: put yourself in over and over again to figure out

1269
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: what you do under under stress so that when the

1270
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: time comes, you know you're not you're not likely to

1271
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: do it, or at least you've practiced through what you're

1272
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: kind of flaws are. So for me, when I'm in

1273
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: a stressful environment, I tend to get really quick, so um,

1274
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: whether that be in like you know, terament archery, ternament golf, whatever, like,

1275
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: I get very quick, and I try to like do

1276
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: it right. And that's where I think a lot of

1277
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: guys rush their shot. Um. And so I'm always just

1278
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: repeating stay calm, like I'm telling myself different mantras to

1279
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: calm myself down and and relax and kind of enjoy

1280
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: the moment. And if you think about it, like we

1281
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: all worked our butts off all season to get to

1282
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: that moment. You've planted food, plots, you put in the

1283
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: scouting time, you woke your ass up at four o'clock

1284
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: on the boarding, you walked out to this spot, like

1285
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: you did all these things for this one split second,

1286
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: like enjoy it, savor it right. And it's easy to

1287
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: think back on that and then and listen to it.

1288
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: And there are a lot of guys in their car

1289
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: right now or mowing their yard or whatever. They're like, yeah, yeah,

1290
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: well hopefully they're still listening. Uh stuff. But you know,

1291
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: like there you need to enjoy that moment and uh

1292
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: and like really kind of tell yourself that over and

1293
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: over again for when the time comes. You mentioned a

1294
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: few times during your practice that you know you're not

1295
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: going to shoot a single arrow unless you perfectly execute

1296
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: your entire shooting process. So what is that entire shooting process?

1297
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: Both the actions you take, but then also like is

1298
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: there any specific mantras for different parts of your process?

1299
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: Are there any words or cues or anything like what

1300
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,799
Speaker 1: what happens physically and mentally from the moment you decide okay,

1301
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot this target of this animal to

1302
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: the moment after the air is gone. Yep. So it

1303
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: all starts with your grip. So any time that I

1304
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: put my hand on the bow, you know, I know

1305
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: exactly where I want the pad of my thumb to

1306
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: be in relation to that grip. So when I'm grabbing

1307
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: a bow, I have a kind of a feeling where

1308
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: I'll slide my hand a little bit left, a little

1309
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: bit right to just verify that the bow is exactly

1310
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: where I wanted to be. So hand goes on bow,

1311
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: my release is on, so I know kind of where

1312
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,959
Speaker 1: I want that release in the channels of my fingers,

1313
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: and I'm really just locking in a feeling, right, And

1314
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: that's a feeling that can only be created by a

1315
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: boatload of reps and knowing where you want it. But

1316
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: you just wanted to be in that natural, comfortable spot

1317
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: that you've been great. So I then will draw the bow,

1318
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: and again I'm I'm using a uh handheld release. So

1319
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: with that handheld release, my pointer finger and my middle

1320
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: finger create like a little V. And so I'll run

1321
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: that V down my jawline and I'm looking for multiple

1322
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: points of contact or reference points to anchor right, so

1323
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: I will come to full draw. My fingers go to

1324
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: underneath my jaw and over my jaw and they get

1325
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: to a spot where, uh, you can't miss. It's where

1326
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: my jaw was broken because I was running my mouth

1327
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: to bar one night. So my finger kind of drops

1328
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 1: into that channel, my nose goes on the string, and

1329
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: I know that that is now absolutely perfect full draw, right, um,

1330
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 1: from that spot. I repeat the exact same thing over

1331
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: and over and over again, whether it be shooting an animal,

1332
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 1: three D target, five spot target, whatever. Uh. And I

1333
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: always say the first thing I say is calm down,

1334
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: pick a spot. And so I will start repeating calm down,

1335
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: pick a spot from the second I see a deer

1336
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: starting to walk in and you feel your heart rate

1337
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: spiking up, right, So I just keep telling myself calm down,

1338
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: pick a spot, Calm down, pick a spot. And I

1339
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: kind of like breathing through my nose, slowly breathe out

1340
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: of my mouth. I'm I'm calming myself down. Um. And

1341
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: I know kind of subconsciously that that also is telling

1342
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: myself like, do not rush this, enjoy that moment, kind

1343
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: of all that stuff that we just talked to. So

1344
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: and when I'm saying pick a spot, um, I went

1345
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 1: through some target panic for a while. I also went

1346
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: through like improper shot placement or or maybe a better

1347
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: way to say that would be trying to perfect my

1348
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: shot placement and really kind of analyze like why that,

1349
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: what happened with that harvest, and what could have made

1350
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: it better? Um. And so I used to aim for

1351
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: the exit on the animal, and I found that that

1352
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: was a good way to describe it. But but what

1353
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: that led to for me were still some shots that

1354
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: I felt like I could improve on. And so what

1355
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,919
Speaker 1: I now focus on for the last couple of seasons

1356
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: that I think is really helpful is I kind of

1357
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: envision the deer's legs as like little chopsticks, right, and

1358
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: they're holding up a um like a dinner plate size

1359
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: beach ball, and so those are the vitals. And I

1360
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: literally will envision on that deer where the where the

1361
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 1: heart is sitting. And if you kind of like look

1362
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: with your hands and do that right now and think

1363
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: about a deer um anywhere they're facing, you can kind

1364
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: of see that that little beach ball in between their legs, right.

1365
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: And so for whatever stupid reason, that visualization for me

1366
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: is really helpful. And so all I try to do

1367
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: is pop that beach ball. And so I'm saying, calm down,

1368
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: pick a spot, calm down, pick a spot, and I'm

1369
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: looking for the spot that I want to put through

1370
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: to absolutely annihilate that beach ball um. And it's funny

1371
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: over the years, like some camera guys that have come

1372
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 1: and hunt with me, anyone that knows me. I'm like

1373
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: a super jervial person. I'm always kind of joking around.

1374
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty um yeah, pretty boastful and just like

1375
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: a fun, playful person. And every time these camera guys

1376
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: are around when I shoot a deer, they're like, dude,

1377
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: you even to like kill mode, um, where like a

1378
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: switch is flipped and I'm I'm not joking around, And

1379
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: there really shouldn't be any joking around. You're taking an

1380
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: animal's life and you need to do that as professionally

1381
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: and appropriately as possible. But like I take it extra

1382
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 1: seriously where when I'm in kill mode and um, so

1383
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: I kind of flipping that switch when I see a

1384
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: critter and I'm like, calm down, pick a spot, calm down,

1385
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: pick a spot. Um. And so I'm watching that beach ball,

1386
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: I come to full draw. I watch my um, yeah,

1387
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: once I picked that spot. I think of remember back

1388
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: in like the late nineties, there's like golf war movies

1389
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: where they had the laser guided missiles and so there'd

1390
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: always be some like some team on the ground that

1391
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: was like fighting to paint the target with the laser.

1392
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: So I think of my my my pin as a

1393
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: laser guiding missile thing. And this is like the stupid

1394
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: way that my brain kind of associates these things. But

1395
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: so once I picked that spot, I do not take

1396
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: my eyes off of it. I mean, I might like

1397
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: look around and try to read the other deer around

1398
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: this animal's body language. But I'm burning a hole through

1399
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: that spot that I have picked. And so once I

1400
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: pick a spot, I say to myself. Painted. And so

1401
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: I'm painting that spot with that laser guided missile and

1402
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm just letting it float all around that that spot,

1403
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying, you know, pick a spot, paint it.

1404
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: And I keep repeating, paint it, paint it, paint it

1405
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: until it's painted. And I'm comfortable with my float. And

1406
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: this is all stuff that you pick up in you know,

1407
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: heavy practice doing this. And then I say to myself,

1408
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: keep it painted while you pull, pull, pull, pull, And

1409
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: all I'm feeling is just a very gradual pressure increase

1410
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: on that release as a whole. And so I know

1411
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: that I'm pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling, and

1412
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: then it just, you know, next thing, you know, that

1413
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: arrow hits home and it's just an absolutely perfect shot.

1414
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: And so, um, what I'm really doing is I'm trying to.

1415
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm focusing on my follow through by telling myself to

1416
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: keep it painted while you pull pull, pull, pull, pull,

1417
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: and I just repeat pull until the shot breaks to

1418
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: prevent myself from rushing it. Do you ever find yourself

1419
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: in the midst of that or leading into that and

1420
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: still feeling nerves or buck fever or any of that

1421
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: increased adrenaline? Is there anything else you do when all

1422
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: of a sudden like something feels different? Or have you

1423
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: done this enough that it never feels different? And that

1424
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: process always addresses any physical aspects of excitement. So I mean,

1425
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: I'm the day that I shoot a deer and I

1426
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: feel nothing. I will never shoot another deer, um, because

1427
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm crossed over into some there that happens, right,

1428
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: But like, um, you know, we're out there for the hunt,

1429
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: for the for the enjoyment, and the harvests are part

1430
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: of that hunt. Um. I feel I get butterflies, whether

1431
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: it's by first or you know, hundred plus dear of

1432
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 1: the year. Like I'm I'm feeling those nerves. I'm feeling

1433
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: those butterflies and feel that adrenaline by repeating those mantras,

1434
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: I find it prevents me from letting my subconscious kind

1435
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: of kicking and start being like, WHOA, don't do this,

1436
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: don't do that, right, Like you're you're able to kind

1437
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 1: of suppress the potential negative stuff by focusing on on

1438
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: your actions and so um, you know, I played golf

1439
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: in college. We did a lot of stuff with like

1440
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 1: sports psychologists, and they always say that focusing on the

1441
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: process is the best way to deal with stress and

1442
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: deal with high pressure environments. And so I'm immersing myself

1443
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: in the process of picking the spot, burning a hole

1444
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: through it with my eyes, painting it with my pen,

1445
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: and then pulling, pulling, pulling, pulling to prevent any negative

1446
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: or or like thoughts creeping in that I don't want

1447
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: to have, however, and that really helps with that buck

1448
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: fever target panic. And you know, the last thing you

1449
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: want to do is see like some giant one six

1450
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: time in and be like, oh, man, like when I

1451
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 1: put him on my wall, wait to call my buddies.

1452
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do him with a semi sneak pose like like,

1453
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: you need to focus on on the process at hand,

1454
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 1: immerse yourself in it, and worry about all that other crap. Later, um,

1455
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, do not do not just um, you know,

1456
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: get ahead of yourself. But yeah, I mean I feel

1457
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: all kinds of butterflies and jitters and and everything. And

1458
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: something else that I think it's really important to note

1459
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: is the entire time I'm going through this process, like

1460
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: I've had over a decade now of um of a

1461
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: lot of deer encounters and harvests, and I am always

1462
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: reading deer's body language. Even if I'm seeing deer that

1463
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: are maybe they're deer, they're like eight yards off, they're

1464
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: not going to come in. I picked the wrong tree.

1465
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: But I'm just watching these deer or maybe they're dear

1466
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 1: in the field. Like I'm always looking at those deer

1467
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: and trying to to read their body language and analyze

1468
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: what they're doing because that has a lot to do

1469
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:22,560
Speaker 1: with with taking a shot or where to where to

1470
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: place that shot. Right, Like, so if a deer comes

1471
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: in and it looks really skittish or is like you know,

1472
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: maybe it's feeding a little and popping its head up

1473
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: real quick, it's it's looking like a crackhead d C deer,

1474
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: Like you need to be mindful of that to where

1475
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: when you shoot that Like first off, you cannot get

1476
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: away with with as much movement as you think, so

1477
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna affect you. But also like I know, I

1478
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 1: might want to tuck that arrow just a little lower

1479
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: in my spot picking because that deer might drop a

1480
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,879
Speaker 1: little or maybe that deer is gonna like slightly quarter away,

1481
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: and I know it's been picking its head up and down,

1482
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: head up and down, and like when it goes down,

1483
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: I know now is my time to like take the shot.

1484
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:09,440
Speaker 1: It's very important to analyze the dear body behavior and

1485
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: and kind of like try to figure out what you're

1486
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: communicating by their actions, because that says a lot on

1487
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: how that deer is going to react at that split

1488
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: second when you shoot it, and you know it's that

1489
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: goes into your shot placement and also selection. And that

1490
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: gets back full circle to the deer that we saw

1491
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 1: when we were in the tree together here in d C.

1492
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: I was like that that year is so skittish that

1493
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: there is a high probability for a marginal hit, and

1494
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: like we just can't risk that, yeah, with with what's

1495
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: going on, So I'm always kind of reading that deer's

1496
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: body language and trying to figure out what's going on,

1497
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: kind of with my subconscious And I think that the

1498
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: combination of that and repeating my my mantra over and

1499
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 1: over again really helps, um like execute and and suppress

1500
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: any buck fever or butterflies or jitters or whatever you're feeling.

1501
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: Let's dvel in morns of the body language thing. Um.

1502
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,799
Speaker 1: First off, you you do, you give me an example

1503
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: of this, but can you describe for me? Are there

1504
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: any behaviors or indications of a deer that's gonna be

1505
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: too flighty where you will say, okay, based on this

1506
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: body language, I'm just not gonna shoot, even if the

1507
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 1: deer's in range, even if you could take the shop.

1508
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: Is there a situation where you're reading the deer and

1509
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: you're saying, man, this just seems ill advised. Is there

1510
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: anything like that? Yeah? I mean I'm always looking for

1511
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: for that deer that's being super skinnish, right, and and

1512
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: I think of that as like like like a tweaker almost.

1513
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 1: You know, they're kind of like picking their head up,

1514
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: moving around, moving around like they're constantly they're quartering to

1515
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: their corey away, they're moving this way, They're they're looking

1516
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: at the deer around him. Um, you know that dear

1517
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: to me is like already amped up and uh, you know,

1518
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: could could spin at the shot a little and you know, look,

1519
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: I've shot plenty of deer that have been that way.

1520
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 1: Like That's how I know that they might run a

1521
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: little further. They might already have a little adrenaline in

1522
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: their system, there might be It's amazing how much a

1523
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 1: deer at fourteen yards can move from when you have

1524
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 1: that shot break to where the arrow hits like it's

1525
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable just watching it on footage and knowing where

1526
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: my pin was when when I've let a shot break

1527
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: versus where the entrance and next hole are right and

1528
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 1: so um, you have to take that into account of

1529
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: either not shooting the deer or aiming for it. But

1530
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 1: and and the reason that I've gotten to where I

1531
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 1: won't shoot that deer sometimes is for whatever reason. Sometimes

1532
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: there's deer that you think are going to drop, don't,

1533
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: and then you now get them low or somewhat low. Um.

1534
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: You know, I'm always looking for those tweaker deer. They're

1535
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: according to quartering away, bouncing around, picking their head up

1536
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: real hard, watching their ears go back. And sometimes if

1537
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: you let that deer just just like kind of walk

1538
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: around and feed around. Especially you know, I'm thinking early

1539
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: season on an oak flat. Yeah, you as, particularly in

1540
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: my area. Who knows what that deer just encountered. There

1541
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: could have been that deer could have just run in

1542
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 1: from yards away where some some kids were walking the

1543
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: dog and it's kicked the deer up and they're like, well,

1544
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna go sweet anyways because I'm already here

1545
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: right um. And sometimes that deer will settle down and

1546
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: ends up being a perfect time to to shoot it.

1547
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: So you just never know, and you're better off just

1548
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: kind of letting it settle down, or maybe it caught

1549
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: your set and maybe it's gonna blow. Um. You know

1550
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: that's something though that you need to take an account of.

1551
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: If that deer comes in and it's looking tweaker ish,

1552
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: but it's licking its nose and it's looking all around

1553
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: like that's dear that you might want to shoot right

1554
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 1: away because it probably got your sense and that body

1555
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 1: language would be different. Right, it's licking its nose, it's

1556
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: kind of working its ears back and forth. It knows

1557
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 1: something's wrong. Um. You know, that would be a different

1558
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: scenario of a deer that might fit into that quote

1559
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: unquote tweaker status. Uh, that that is, you know, more

1560
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 1: likely than not an older, mature animal that you certainly

1561
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: want to get out of there. So just reading that

1562
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:43,719
Speaker 1: body language of looking for different cues, tail up, tail down, flicking,

1563
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: suck hard, tight, you know what the ears, you're doing,

1564
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: what they're doing with their with their mouth, if they're

1565
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, looking there there's a bunch, or if they're

1566
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: kind of feeding along but popping their head up and down,

1567
01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 1: those will be all signs of you know, what's this

1568
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: deer doing? Why is it acting that way? Um? Those

1569
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: are all important things. And then on top of that,

1570
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: to take it one step further, we have CWD in

1571
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: our area. So if a deer comes in acting super weird,

1572
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: it's drooling around like it looks like unhealthy, messed up,

1573
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,759
Speaker 1: that's something else I want to pay attention to because

1574
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 1: that's certainly a deer that I want to go get

1575
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: tested and make sure that um, there wasn't something you know,

1576
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: wrong with it from a disease standpoint. Yeah. Back to

1577
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: the tweaker deer, So we've got a deer that's on

1578
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 1: edge in some way or form. Maybe it's picked up

1579
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: on us or smell. Maybe it's just uncomfortable for one

1580
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: of those other reasons you described. When we have that

1581
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: situation and we're thinking about where to aim, do we adjust?

1582
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: Do you recommend adjusting your shot placement at all on

1583
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 1: this deer that seems on edge, because I think the

1584
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: the assumption is that if we have a deer on edge,

1585
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 1: that deer is more likely to react a little bit

1586
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: quicker to this shop. And so that might mean a

1587
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 1: jumping the string kind of motion, or that might mean

1588
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: a deer that's whirling and spinning away in some kind

1589
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: of way. So do you do you adjust a little

1590
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: bit down like something? I know some people aim lower

1591
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: on a deer they think would jumped the string, or

1592
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: some people might even aim a little bit further off

1593
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: of the blade, the shoulder blade, because that deer might

1594
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: swirl and spin one way or another and give you

1595
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 1: more of a chance of hitting bone because of that.

1596
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 1: Does any of that enter your equation? Absolutely, And that's

1597
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: where your practice comes in as well, because if you're

1598
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 1: just shooting your your three D deer target all the

1599
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 1: time like perfect right in increase um, that's great, you know,

1600
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: but deer in the real world you need to aim

1601
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: differently on depending on that body language, right, And so

1602
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: that kind of reverts all the way back to pick

1603
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: a spot, pick your target, right. And so if that

1604
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: deer is that, let's say that tweeting fourteen yards, she's

1605
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: super sketched out. Um, I've made the decision though that

1606
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: even though she's on edge, I'm gonna harvest her. And

1607
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna aim at at fourteen yards. I know

1608
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: she's going to dump the string a little she's gonna

1609
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 1: jump the string a little bit. I don't have to

1610
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: hold off body though I'm gonna hold. I'm always aiming

1611
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 1: in that lower third to pop the balloon. I might

1612
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: aim like an extra couple of inches low if we

1613
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: were out on a farm somewhere to where I where

1614
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 1: the Yeah, if I had to take a shot at

1615
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: let's say thirty five yards, and and even though I

1616
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: don't do that in the suburbs, but let's say that

1617
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: in this scenario, for whatever reason, I am um, And

1618
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 1: that deer is is tweaker deer. It's it's jumpy, but

1619
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 1: it's a giant buck. And you know, this is the

1620
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: deer we've been after all week in Iowa. And it's

1621
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 1: now or never right that this encounter is now or never.

1622
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: But he's a little skittish. I mean you might need

1623
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 1: to hold eight inches below his brisket, right, And that's

1624
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 1: where having trust in your your read on that animal

1625
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: as well as trusting your equipment is absolutely like essential

1626
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: because he's very hard to hold off bart off body

1627
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: on an animal. Right. Um yeah, but dear is at

1628
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 1: like thirty five yards, I mean maybe not eight inches,

1629
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna hold probably put my pin just below

1630
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: his brisket um and I'll guarantee you that he'll duck

1631
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: into that and and take it. Yeah, and there it's

1632
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just something that comes with shooting a

1633
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: lot of critters. I mean how many how many gear

1634
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: shows have you seen where they get to where they

1635
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: they shoot the animal and they put the little dot

1636
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: on where it would be perfect, and then the arrow

1637
01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 1: sails over his back. Deer could dropp an entire body

1638
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 1: length body body with in a matter of seconds. And

1639
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 1: also is their head up or their head down? You know,

1640
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: if if they have their head positioned down, they can

1641
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 1: whip it up and use that that that effect to

1642
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: drop their body even lower. Um. See kind of these

1643
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 1: are all things that you have to take into account

1644
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 1: that are very difficult to take into account in the

1645
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: process of shooting an animal. Um in hindsight is always

1646
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: but you just kind of need to to think through

1647
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: these these little things. And I mean, frankly, that's snare

1648
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 1: that you just went through with Megabuck in Iowa. That's

1649
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: why those thirty five yard shots are not super successful

1650
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: on an animal um for they're harder to be successful

1651
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 1: in animal And obviously people shot your much further distances

1652
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: than that. It's it's not like an impossible shot, but

1653
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 1: there are a lot more probabilities for failure or things

1654
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: that can happen in that inditional yards between our two scenarios,

1655
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 1: Like that's an eternity for a year. Uh So more

1656
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: in shop placement you mentioned in the past, you've got

1657
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 1: the legs are like chopsticks, and then you've got this

1658
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 1: dinner plate size ball that's on top of the chopsticks.

1659
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,759
Speaker 1: Can you can you just give me a little more detail,

1660
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: like when you're how you get to that point, Like

1661
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 1: how do you get to that place when you're actually

1662
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 1: looking at a deer? Do you look at the legs

1663
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: and bring your pin up the leg and then just

1664
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: go off a little bit, or or how do you

1665
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: pick that perfect place to put your pin? So the

1666
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: dinner plate is actually being held up by the chopsticks.

1667
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: So think of it like you're eating sushi and the

1668
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 1: sushi is you're picking up a piece of sushi, right, um,

1669
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: the shoulder blades this analogy, This analogy works in DC.

1670
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: It might not work as well in rural Iowa, but

1671
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: people try to follow along here Taylor's you got your

1672
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: chicken nuggets, You're going into the sauce. Um So. I

1673
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: mean if you think about our anatomy or deer's anatomy,

1674
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: like your shoulder blades are our shields, right, and that breastbone,

1675
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: it's all protecting your vitals. And so those shoulder blades

1676
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 1: are holding up the they're protecting the heart. Really, um So,

1677
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: I think of those those shoulder blades as the tips

1678
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: of the chopsticks, if you will, that are holding that

1679
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: little beach ball. Um So, I kind of I look

1680
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 1: at it in almost like a three D way. But

1681
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: if you're if you're thinking of it of where do

1682
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: you want your arrow to exit, Well, you pretty much

1683
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 1: always wanted to exit on the in like the lower

1684
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: third to come out through that little golden triangle or

1685
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: um to kind of blow out right above where the

1686
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,919
Speaker 1: bone kind of cuts back on a fort of its shoulders.

1687
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 1: So um, I'm I'm picking a spot in that lower third, uh,

1688
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of like rate in that in that crease exit spot.

1689
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 1: But sometimes depending on what the way that the beer

1690
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: is quartered, you know, and this is where popping that

1691
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 1: that beach ball comes in really handy. Like I want

1692
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 1: to pop the low third of that beach ball, if

1693
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Um, And it's kind of a weird analogy.

1694
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 1: I'd have to almost like draw it out of how

1695
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 1: it works in in my head. But if you think

1696
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 1: of those like milk jug tests that people do on

1697
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 1: YouTube for broadheads when they put like red foot coloring in,

1698
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 1: like I want to, I want to put a hole

1699
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: in the lower part of that bear's milk jug or

1700
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 1: the beach ball to try and deflate it as fast

1701
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 1: as possible. And because of your arrow set up and

1702
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: because of your broad head, you are willing to be

1703
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: very tight to that should or blade area because you

1704
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 1: know that that's the most effective spot to hit them

1705
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 1: as long as you can punch their bone if you

1706
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 1: have to, Is that right? Like some people will will

1707
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 1: be very cautious and aim further back and just aim

1708
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: for back of lungs or center of lungs because they

1709
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:17,719
Speaker 1: want to avoid the bones entirely. You're not absolutely correct,

1710
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 1: and I used to do that and that led to

1711
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:24,719
Speaker 1: tow a little more issues. Now I'm not intentionally trying

1712
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: to shoot the gear of the shoulder. I will never

1713
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: tell someone to do that unless it's a tiny property.

1714
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 1: And you know, we're doing my analogy of I'm trying

1715
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: to take the landing gear out. But even when I

1716
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 1: try to take the landing gear out, and when I

1717
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 1: do take the landing gear out, you know, I'm not

1718
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 1: shooting them to the shoulder. I'm hitting them in that

1719
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 1: like little void right at the top of their legs

1720
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 1: below the shoulder bone where or maybe like through the

1721
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,480
Speaker 1: very bottom part of it, but where it's not very

1722
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: it's not super strong. Um. You know, I think that

1723
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: shoulder blade should be avoided at all costs. However, I've

1724
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: just put together a setup that I know can punch

1725
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 1: through the shoulder if it has to. And I think

1726
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 1: that's really important, excuse me, really important um to to

1727
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 1: have because if I did that, if I took that

1728
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 1: shot with an expandable broad head. There is a high, high,

1729
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:27,480
Speaker 1: high probability for failure there right, Like there's a there's

1730
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: an incredible margin for air that I'm not comfortable with, um.

1731
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: And that's why taking that shot with a fixed blade

1732
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: head that has a big cutting diameter really works well

1733
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: and it has a blade designed for penetration. You know,

1734
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: some of these uh, fixed blade heads don't work in

1735
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 1: that regard because there you have a steep blade angle

1736
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 1: and if they hit something hard, they're probably not gonna

1737
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 1: punch through it very far. So avoid the shoulder at

1738
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 1: all cost. But I'm comfortable being tight to it because

1739
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: I know that I'm practiced. I also know that it's

1740
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: like a twelve or fourteen yard shot and that there

1741
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 1: is a nine percent chance and I'm hitting, you know,

1742
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 1: within a couple of millimeters of the hair that I'm

1743
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 1: staring at. UH. Quartering two shots? Given everything we've talked about,

1744
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 1: will you ever take a quarter in two shots? And

1745
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 1: if you do, how do you adjust your point of aim?

1746
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: So I really do not like quartering two shots. UM.

1747
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 1: You know, on a on a white tail, especially in

1748
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: the urban environment, you know, if you're on you're hunting

1749
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: from the ground and and you're you know, on your

1750
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 1: farm and Missouri or wherever. Like, if you want to

1751
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 1: shoot him in the throat, go for it. But you

1752
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 1: need to be really comfortable with the understanding of a

1753
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: deer's anatomy. And so that same line of thought of

1754
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: the shoulders and the breastbone are protecting the vitals. Well,

1755
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: think about your area to slip an arrow into if

1756
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 1: that deer is staring at you, versus if that deer

1757
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: were quartering away, Like all the goodies are exposed. If

1758
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 1: that deer is quartering away slightly, very few areas are

1759
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 1: experiensed to slip an arrow into if it's you know,

1760
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 1: corded towards you. Um. However, that being said, like I

1761
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: shot a deer in Oklahoma last year that came in

1762
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: that was almost at the base of our tree, and

1763
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean I shot him almost straight down between his

1764
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: shoulder blades and down through his heart and he died

1765
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: on the spot. Um. Now, I was comfortable taking that

1766
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 1: shot because you know, one, I'm highly experienced it at

1767
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: shot placement. But two, they were like twelve deer around us,

1768
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: and we were in this tiny little tree, myself and

1769
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: a camera guy, And I mean there was a a

1770
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 1: high likelihood that we were going to get busted if

1771
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 1: that dear didn't get shot right then. And so, you know,

1772
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 1: while that wasn't forcing it, you also need to know

1773
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: when there is an opportunity you feel comfortable in seizing

1774
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 1: it with appropriate timing. Yeah, okay, here's another example of

1775
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 1: a tricky situation. Moving dear. You've got a buck coming through,

1776
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: there's a shooting lane, it's your only shooting lane, and

1777
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna walk through it. Would you ever take a

1778
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 1: moving shot or is it always that you stop a

1779
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: deer and shooting, Like, how do you handle that? Yeah?

1780
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,799
Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable taking a moving shot. I really prefer

1781
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,839
Speaker 1: to have an animal stop on its own um because

1782
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, when you shoot a deer that's like feeding

1783
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 1: through an area or kind of slowly walking through on

1784
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 1: their own pace. They're much calmer than they are when

1785
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 1: they're slowly feeding through and they think they're all alone,

1786
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's like, Matt, Yeah,

1787
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 1: that deer is going like what the hell? If you're

1788
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: in your backyard, you know, just sticking around and all

1789
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's somebody yells out for you, and

1790
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: you'd be like, whoa, like if somebody's here, what's going on? Um?

1791
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: Similar similar thing with the deer. So I try to

1792
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: not make any noise. However, if an animal's moving and

1793
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: I need to stop it, I will most certainly bleat

1794
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 1: at them very softly, like a very soft like man.

1795
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 1: I've never taken a shot of the moving deer. I mean,

1796
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 1: I guess I should never say never, because who knows

1797
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 1: what the future holds. But I would strongly uh encourage

1798
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 1: people to not take a shot at a moving animal

1799
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 1: that that to me just seems like a recipe for

1800
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: disaster or definitely Yeah. I think if people have made

1801
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: it this far in the episode, they understand that I'm

1802
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: like a big um probability guy, like I like to

1803
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: have the odds in my favor, and that seems like

1804
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 1: something where the odds are very firmly stacked against you.

1805
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 1: Is there is or any other element of in the

1806
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 1: tree preparation that leads to an accurate successful shot? I mean,

1807
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: is there anything maybe we need to rewind a little

1808
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: bit in the day, you know, we're up in the tree.

1809
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you do, like right when you

1810
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 1: get settled as far as where you place your bow,

1811
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: as far as where you I don't know, organize your setup.

1812
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 1: Does any of that help you perform in the moment

1813
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 1: of truth better or is there anything else that we're missing? Well,

1814
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: I think that that kind of helps you stay calm

1815
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 1: in the in the time leading up to the shot.

1816
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: You know, like my bow is always in the same spot,

1817
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: my pack is generally in the same spot. I know

1818
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 1: where my releases. My range finder is always in the

1819
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:46,759
Speaker 1: same spot. So when I climb up in the tree,

1820
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 1: my bows there, my pack set up. The first thing

1821
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: that I'm doing once my once everything is set up,

1822
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: is I'm pulling my range finder out. And what I'll

1823
01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: do is like I like to look at a spot

1824
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 1: and I just guess how far away it is, and

1825
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: then I range it, and then I you know, I'm

1826
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 1: picking out kind of my twenty yard circle of death.

1827
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: Then I know that if a critter crosses into there

1828
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 1: and then trouble um. And the reason that I play

1829
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: that little game with myself is I just find that

1830
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 1: that helps me be very accurate in guessing the yardage.

1831
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 1: But I know that where I'm like, Okay, that big

1832
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 1: white oak tree right there is is yards away. If

1833
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,839
Speaker 1: a deer crosses inside it, you know their top penalty

1834
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: they're smoke um. Or I'll be like, okay, that tree

1835
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,719
Speaker 1: over there is thirty five yards away. And I also

1836
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 1: like to drop um milkweed. And I'm always kind of

1837
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 1: looking at where the where the wind is pulling my ascent,

1838
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 1: so I know that, like, Okay, if a deer comes

1839
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 1: in on this angle and it's working towards that wind,

1840
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: I need to shoot it before it catches my wind

1841
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: and possibly blows out of here. Or I I know

1842
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: that a deer is at my twelve o'clock, but I

1843
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 1: have you know, three dose working in from from like

1844
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 1: across my backside there. Well, they might catch my wind

1845
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,679
Speaker 1: if they're in a certain pocket. So kind of knowing

1846
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: your area and knowing the yardages and also what's happening

1847
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 1: around you is key. And and the other thing that

1848
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 1: leads to a lot of success is having your spots

1849
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 1: prep So I mean, I do a lot of running

1850
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: gun hunting. I might end up in a in a

1851
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 1: tree that I've never hunted before, I've never been in before,

1852
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 1: but I generally like to have my trees picked out

1853
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: and have some shooting lanes prepared. So that I don't

1854
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 1: feel like a major rush or or panic that sets

1855
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: in when a deer appears, because you know, if you

1856
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 1: it's like Murphy's law, if you haven't cut shooting lanes,

1857
01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 1: then you have a chance that there's deer going to

1858
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 1: like go directly to where you can't shoot them, and

1859
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 1: and uh and you know it's like Murphy's Law is

1860
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 1: always tagging along. So you need to not have that terrible,

1861
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: panicky feeling of like, oh no, no, I need to

1862
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: shoot that deer right now. Well, if you have shooting lanes,

1863
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, that there's toast Like he's working right

1864
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 1: towards that other shooting lane that I have prepared and perfect.

1865
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 1: You know, he has there's cover between shooting Lane A

1866
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,600
Speaker 1: and shooting Lane B to where I can, you know,

1867
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: do whatever I need to do to get my bow

1868
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 1: in hand, come to full draw, get myself situated to

1869
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: where I can take the shot. Yeah, so here's here's

1870
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:42,799
Speaker 1: a here's uh. So, well, rather than stating my assumption,

1871
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 1: I'll I'll paint a picture, I guess of something I

1872
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: think that happens a lot today. And I'm curious in

1873
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 1: your thoughts about this because I think this ties directly

1874
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: into why you are the perfect person to talk about

1875
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: these things because of the world you live in and

1876
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 1: the lifestyle you've chosen. But here's scenario that I think

1877
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 1: is pretty common these days. More and more folks watch

1878
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 1: and consume and listen to media in the hunting world

1879
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 1: with people who are targeting big old bucks. All right,

1880
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 1: they're all about holding off for a five year old

1881
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: or they're are holding off for a one fifty or whatever,

1882
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 1: and they hunting Iola or hunting Missourium, there's a big

1883
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: deer like that. But the average even great hunter and

1884
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 1: a great circumstance like that, that might lead to one

1885
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 1: shot opportunity a year for these hunters. And then there's

1886
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 1: newer hunters coming up in the world who watched that,

1887
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: who listened to that, who then start thinking, well, I've

1888
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 1: got to hold out for a five year old buck,

1889
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: or I need to hold out for a pope and

1890
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: young deer, and it leads to them having very few

1891
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 1: shot opportunities maybe ever in a whole year. I've got

1892
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 1: a I've got a number of friends like this. I've

1893
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: got a buddy who wanted his first buck he shot

1894
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 1: with his bow to be like a really really big buck,

1895
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 1: and so he went over a decade without shooting anything

1896
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 1: because of that. Is that a good recipe for becoming

1897
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 1: efficient and effective with your shot process and executing in

1898
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 1: primetime high pressure situations? Right? I know the answer to this,

1899
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 1: but I want your take on that scenario. If you

1900
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: worry about that scenario that a lot of people probably

1901
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 1: are living in and what they're missing out on, and

1902
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: is there may be a different approach that could get

1903
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Speaker 1: people more effective. Yeah. I mean that's like trying to

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Speaker 1: be Mark McGuire without going to batting practice, right, or

1905
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 1: or trying to be like Tom Brady and only playing

1906
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: in playoff games like you have to. There's no way

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Speaker 1: really to replicate the stress and all of the different

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Speaker 1: factors that comes together to result in a successful hunt. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have to immerse yourself in it over

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Speaker 1: and ub and uber again in order to just understand

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Speaker 1: what you and your body does at the moment of

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Speaker 1: truth and prepare for that. And I think that's part

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Speaker 1: of what makes shooting a giant buck so special. That's

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Speaker 1: what makes you want to mounted or or like European

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Speaker 1: amount of whatever, is the fact that it's so hard

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Speaker 1: and so rare, and I do think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people sometimes get a skewed perspective of of how hard

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Speaker 1: it is because of the content that we consume, right

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Speaker 1: and and what we're consuming. It's entertainment, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: people aren't watching or really thinking about the amount of

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Speaker 1: time and effort and hard work that the Lakowskis or

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Speaker 1: the Druries are putting in, or you know, even like

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Speaker 1: guys that know, like you know, our buddy and you

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Speaker 1: may right, they're like, oh, man, Andy so officiated, like

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Speaker 1: he kills giants, like he's just he's a grace hunter.

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Speaker 1: And he is, and he's a phenomenal hunter. But and

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Speaker 1: he puts in so much time and effort during the season,

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Speaker 1: but also the past decade in fifteen years that he's

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Speaker 1: put in in in becoming you know, the hunter that

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Speaker 1: he is today, and people don't see that and and

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Speaker 1: and think about all the pieces that come together to

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Speaker 1: make that complete package. So, you know, for guys that

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Speaker 1: are out there that that are listening to this, that

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Speaker 1: want to be, you know, a better hunter, you just

1935
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Speaker 1: have to go through the process and put yourself in

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Speaker 1: that scenario. I think two to learn where your faults

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01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 1: might be and and then how to improve on them

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Speaker 1: when you're looking at specifically just the factors that go

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Speaker 1: into your form and shoot et in the deer, let

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Speaker 1: alone getting in on a deer and having the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to shoot it. So you know, there's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 1: challenging yourself and and just trying to you know, progress

1943
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Speaker 1: as a hunter, like getting tight on animals and figure

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Speaker 1: out like how you can get closer and continue doing that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you don't even have to shoot him

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Speaker 1: if you don't want to. You just come to full

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Speaker 1: drawing and float your pin there and just think about

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Speaker 1: it and and see what your body, Like, your body

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Speaker 1: will break out. You will get that adrenaline dump if

1950
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 1: you live us somewhere where you only have you know,

1951
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Speaker 1: one tag and you choose not to use it, like

1952
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: that's fine, But um, I think people need to realize,

1953
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 1: like like you need to hunt for yourself and not

1954
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: hunt for social media fame or like trying to keep

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Speaker 1: up with the Jones or the people that the other

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01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 1: people in the industry, because it's just that it's apples

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01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 1: to orangines. You're not hunting the same land, you don't

1958
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 1: have the same experience, and you need to just like

1959
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 1: go out and enjoy it for yourself and put some

1960
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Speaker 1: food on the table. Would you? Would you say, though,

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01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:15,480
Speaker 1: that a lot of people would probably benefit from becoming

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Speaker 1: a little bit more like you and simply shooting more

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Speaker 1: dear So instead of thinking that you're going to hold

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Speaker 1: out for one seventy every year and that's all you do,

1965
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Speaker 1: maybe there's more hunters that should consider shooting a bunch

1966
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Speaker 1: of doughs every year, or maybe lowering their standards a

1967
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 1: little bit so they can finally get good at shooting

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Speaker 1: year and a half old or two and a half

1969
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 1: year old bucks and actually really be good at that

1970
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 1: before they try to shoot for that one seventy and

1971
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Speaker 1: have a whole lot of dead time in between where

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01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 1: they never get better at handling the moment truth? Is

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Speaker 1: that something you would have? Yes? I think that, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to tell anybody like what

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01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 1: to set their goals for whatever, Like everybody wants to shoot.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have a typical deer sitting here on

1977
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Speaker 1: my wall, right. I don't, Um, but I have, you know,

1978
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Speaker 1: fifteen years of pretty awesome experiences and and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: confidence to know that at some point when that one

1980
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 1: ninety slob comes walking into my life. He is toast.

1981
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 1: He picked the wrong two pounds squirrel with sharp sticks

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01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: to walk in front of it. Because I know what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing, and you know, I think that a lot

1984
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: of people would really benefit um in shooting those and

1985
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 1: becoming the most like proficient harvester and and hunter that

1986
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 1: they can be like master your world and try and

1987
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 1: and perfect it. And you know, I also think it's

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Speaker 1: important to keep the mindset of of always trying to

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Speaker 1: better yourself. Like I, I don't think that I'm any

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Speaker 1: expert on this stuff. I just have done it a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I'm super anal and analytical to where I'm always

1992
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Speaker 1: striving to be better. But I don't I don't think

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01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 1: I've like perfected it. I'm still trying to get my

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01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: gear better. I'm still trying to continue tuning my stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, even more, see if there's a way that

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01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,920
Speaker 1: I can be more efficient, Like I try to never

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Speaker 1: stop learning and have that mindset um, because I think

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01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 1: once you just like I think that you've mastered it,

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01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 1: that's when you're beginning to regress. And nobody should ever

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Speaker 1: kind of think in that manner. All right, If if

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Speaker 1: there was just one thing. Let's say someone did listen

2002
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 1: to all of this, but they've got very poor short

2003
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 1: term memory, and you could pick just one single takeaway

2004
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:58,520
Speaker 1: because we want, we want everyone listening to come away

2005
01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 1: from this with a chance of being more accurate and

2006
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 1: effective when they shoot at a deer this coming fall.

2007
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 1: There's just one thing you want them to do. What

2008
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 1: would that one very most important thing. It could be

2009
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 1: something we've talked about, It could be something we've forgotten

2010
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 1: to talk about. If there's one takeaway you want everyone

2011
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 1: to hammer into their brain and not forget and actually

2012
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 1: do it, what's that one thing without a doubt. Two,

2013
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 1: figure out some step process to take when they're shooting.

2014
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:34,720
Speaker 1: And that could be as simple as like a one

2015
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 1: part mantra of like squeeze, squeeze, squeeze or whatever. But

2016
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 1: create a process that you're going to go through in

2017
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 1: shooting an animal or target, Like when you put carbon

2018
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 1: in the air, have a process that you go through

2019
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 1: and slow down and go through that process every single

2020
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 1: time that you could carbon in the air, whether you're

2021
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:07,480
Speaker 1: shooting a target, a yeah, whatever you're shooting at. Take that,

2022
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:12,920
Speaker 1: because that, for me was the biggest leap in all

2023
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: of my growth as a hunter, that one made the

2024
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 1: biggest difference. And it's hard. It's easy to say, but

2025
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 1: it's hard to be out there in the summertime right

2026
02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 1: now with your bow and not playing arrows. Like you

2027
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:33,120
Speaker 1: need to think through whatever process you developed, whether it's

2028
02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 1: mine or Ady Mays or le By Morgan's like, and

2029
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, in talking to all those guys, they do

2030
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:43,400
Speaker 1: the same thing, right, Like when I talked to Levi

2031
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 1: about his process or Andy about his process, Like, it's

2032
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 1: funny how similar they all are. We use different words

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02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 1: that we're telling ourselves. And Mark, I think when you

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02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 1: and I talked about this, you have a process that

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Speaker 1: you get through as well, right, So and and um,

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Speaker 1: would you say that you had a pretty drastic increase

2037
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Speaker 1: in proficiency when you started implementing that process. Well, so,

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Speaker 1: I've had stages. So so first, when I first started

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Speaker 1: using some kind of mantra within, I had an improvement

2040
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Speaker 1: in effectiveness. And then over a couple of the last

2041
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:22,560
Speaker 1: three or four years, I've regressed and had some target

2042
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 1: panic issues. And so now I've rebuilt that. And so

2043
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm now dedicating myself even more to really stringently tying

2044
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: verbal cues to that process so that I can't get

2045
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:37,120
Speaker 1: into that speeding mode where it sounds like you've had

2046
02:01:37,160 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 1: some similar issues where I will shortcut it sometimes and

2047
02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:44,240
Speaker 1: speed through it because I'm not locked in on each

2048
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: step as perfectly as I need to be. So this year,

2049
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying even harder to develop ways to ingrain that

2050
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:52,800
Speaker 1: so that I can't skip a step so I can't rush.

2051
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 1: I need like speed bumps along the way to maintain control.

2052
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I'm really trying to hammer in

2053
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:01,760
Speaker 1: every more than I her before this year. Yeah, and

2054
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 1: I think that's something that you like, back to our

2055
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:07,920
Speaker 1: earlier discussion of like guys that just want to go

2056
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 1: out and sit in the tree until a one seventy appears,

2057
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 1: whether that's a decade long quest or not, Like that

2058
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:19,840
Speaker 1: person that does that will never know the steps in

2059
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 1: between of improving the process. And so like while you're

2060
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:26,280
Speaker 1: honing the skill set by by three years and four

2061
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 1: years of going through repeating that mantra and then going like,

2062
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, I was saying this, but I'm gonna say

2063
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Speaker 1: this instead because that has a better result for me.

2064
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 1: Like that's the growth along the way that leads to

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02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 1: making you a better person and that and that is

2066
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 1: a better hunter. And I think that's a really important

2067
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Speaker 1: step to take. That you don't want to skip over. Yeah,

2068
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 1: never stop improving, Like, yeah, that's the truth. Well, my friend,

2069
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Speaker 1: I knew this would be good. It was. I've had fun,

2070
02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:01,640
Speaker 1: I've learned some stuff. If folks want to see more

2071
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: of what you're doing, where can they find that? Yeah,

2072
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:08,720
Speaker 1: you can find me on YouTube as hunt Urban or

2073
02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 1: on Instagram as Urban Bowmen. So check it out and

2074
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:17,640
Speaker 1: hopefully you guys enjoy. I'll also add to that, Taylor,

2075
02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:19,840
Speaker 1: they will also soon be able to find you on

2076
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Speaker 1: the meat Eater YouTube channel, where our first episode of

2077
02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 1: my new white tail show that I filmed last fall

2078
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Speaker 1: is going to start airing in That first episode should

2079
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,400
Speaker 1: be barrowing some kind of unforeseen change. Should be airing

2080
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Speaker 1: in early September, So we'll get to uh relive our

2081
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Speaker 1: wild urban d C hunt together here very shortly. I

2082
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 1: can't wait. I am very excited to uh to watch

2083
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Speaker 1: that unfold. That was certainly a fun time. And uh,

2084
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you're pretty glad that you don't have

2085
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: to go knock on doors and get permission in this

2086
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,400
Speaker 1: area anymore. Right now. Yeah, man, I'm glad I did.

2087
02:03:57,480 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 1: I glad experienced it, but I'm not too keen on

2088
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 1: spend a whole another day doing it again. Soon. I

2089
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about you coming down and poaching

2090
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Speaker 1: any properties, huh, at least not in the short term. Yeah,

2091
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Speaker 1: that's awesome, man. Thank you again for having me on.

2092
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:16,560
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure and hopefully this helps some people

2093
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:19,440
Speaker 1: out there put more critters on the ground, you know,

2094
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Speaker 1: this year or in the future. I know, well, man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, and that's a wrap. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening. I hope you enjoyed this one. Make sure

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02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 1: check out all of Taylor's content. The guy is a

2098
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 1: great dude. He does good work. He's got a lot

2099
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:37,840
Speaker 1: of great content out there, so follow him wherever you can.

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Speaker 1: And just one last reminder, remember we've got those July

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Speaker 1: wire Hunt gear picks over on the wire Hunt page.

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Speaker 1: Check those out as well if you need something new

2103
02:04:46,360 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: for your summer shooting. And with that out of the way,

2104
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Speaker 1: thank you for listening, Thanks for being part of this community.

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Speaker 1: We're getting close, guys and girls. Is July, that means

2106
02:04:57,560 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 1: next month is August, which means they're you're hunting seasons

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02:05:00,920 --> 02:05:05,839
Speaker 1: opening soon. People. I can't believe it. I'm getting very excited.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good year. Thanks for tuning in,

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Speaker 1: and until next time, stay Wired to Hunt. H