1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noone Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: Here we Go. 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: It's a Thursday, Greg coach Sell. One hour from now. 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: We're live at Chicago. It is Chili. It's the Herd 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: wherever you may be, however, whatever platform you're watching or listening, 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: a lot of choices out there. Thanks for choosing us 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: making us part of your day. We all know there's bias. 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: For the record, you have some to there's recency bias, 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: there's confirmation bias. In the media. We have what I 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: would call chaos bias. The more chaos you have, we 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: jump to it because we know y'll jump to it. 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: That's how it works. 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: On YouTube and TikTok, people find chaos, and I think 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: sometimes it steers us in the media, myself included toward 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: chaos bias. Buffalo Bills have had a bad forty eight hours. 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: Everybody's piling on. You may want to take a deep breath. 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Let's look at where Buffalo's at. Ownership, stable, new stadium coming, 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: massive revenue upgrade, buy more players, superstar quarterback, top six 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: offensive line in a league that has shifted over the 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: last decade to offense, tight end, slot receiver, running back, quarterback, 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: o line, left tackle. Really good last six years, most 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: wins in the league, best point differential by a country 31 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: mile number one, offense, second in playoff wins. Yes, they 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: had a bad seventy two hours, got a bad press 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: conference yesterday. The Sean McDermott firing and press release could 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: have been better. They'd been excellent for six seven years. Excellent. 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: Can this also be noted? Winning Super Bowls is hard? 36 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: Sean McVay, the best coach arguably in the league, has 37 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: won and should probably thank Aaron Donald and one sack 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: late on Joe Burrow for that. Jim Harbaugh none, Kyle 39 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: Shanahan none, Sean Payton won and if the Colts recover 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: that on sidekick, he's maybe looking at zero. 41 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: Okay. 42 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills are a controversial catch no catch call 43 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: from beating the excellent Jags and the excellent Broncos on 44 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: the road. Okay, Bill Belichick. Five of his Super Bowls 45 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: decided by a possession, three by a field goal. Rory 46 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: McElroy best golfer in Europe for fifteen years. He went 47 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: eleven years without winning a major. He was often PGA 48 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: Player of the Year multiple times in a year he 49 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: didn't win a major. And in golf you get four 50 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: chances a year to win a major. In the NFL 51 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: you get one, one three and a half hour window. 52 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: That's it. I would rather be a Buffalo Bills fan 53 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: today than almost anybody not named Kansas City because of 54 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Mahomes, and Andy Reid could retire in 55 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: a year. I'd rather be the new England Patriots. I 56 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: think Drake may is actually at this point underrated. I 57 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: like where the Rams are, but Stafford could retire. I 58 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: like where the Seahawks are. But if do we all 59 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: trust Sam Darnold yet? 60 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: I do? 61 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: Most of you don't bias confirmation bias. There's also chaos bias, 62 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: and it's what we in the media do, and it's 63 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: also what you the fans are attracted to. Brandon Bean's 64 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: probably not the best personnel guy in the league. But again, 65 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: if I told you in twenty twenty six an offensive league, 66 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: if I said, yeah, there's this franchise Upstate New York, 67 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: superstar quarterback, Pro Bowl running back, great left tackle, good 68 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: old line, star slot receiver, really is good, excellent tight ends, 69 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: and their rosters full of B guys. It's not like 70 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: they've got C and D guys all over. They could 71 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: use another cornerback. So could the league accept Seattle. Everybody 72 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: needs new corners because everybody's going three receivers wide, and 73 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: nobody has three great corners. 74 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 4: Not even Seattle, and they've got two. 75 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: Terry Pagoula didn't have a great press conference yesterday, but 76 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: what he's saying has so much merit. We're pretty good here, 77 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: We've got the thing huge want here. Here's the owner yesterday. 78 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 5: That's our seating over the last seven years in the 79 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 5: playoffs five two, three. 80 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: Two to six. 81 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 5: An organization doesn't carry that kind of record without having 82 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 5: without being a great organization, and without having great players. 83 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 5: We are focused on bringing a Super Bowl to Buffalo. 84 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's twenty nine, not thirty nine. That's Matt Stafford 85 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna be thirty eight thirty nine. Soon Josh Allen's twenty 86 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: nine seven years hasn't bested to start due to injury, 87 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: new stadium, stable ownership, more revenue, O line left tackle. 88 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: They had a bad forty eight to seventy two hours. 89 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: There's an old cliche. Wind blows harder at the top 90 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: of the mountain. They're near the top. This stuff had. 91 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: Happened in. 92 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: You know, Carolina, I would not even make the show, 93 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: would not even make the show. 94 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: It's the bills. It leaves the show. 95 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: You know. 96 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about smart people, even geniuses. Van Go 97 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: actually died poor yeah, yeah, and wasn't viewed as as successful. 98 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: And then he died and now you have to wait 99 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: in line to see his work, right, Like, that's the 100 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: way it works sometimes because visionaries and people who see 101 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: things before I see them or you see them, we 102 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: don't give him credit in the time. And we also 103 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: not only do we not give him credit, we forget 104 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: the risk they took to do it. And I'll give 105 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: you an example with Seattle planning their ramps. Seattle, ninety 106 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: percent of you thought Sam Darnold was not a good signing. 107 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 2: He got lucky. 108 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: He had justin Jefferson. 109 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell's a genius, not a very good defensive a division. 110 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: You didn't like it. You didn't like it. He's been great. 111 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: By the way DK Metcalf moved, you didn't like that either. Well, 112 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: what is Seattle doing? When Russell Wilson left, I can 113 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: remember saying on the air, he's been at least a 114 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: one oh three quarterback rating, dude for four straight years. 115 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: Are we sure this is the right move? I didn't 116 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: think it was the right move. Gino Smith's abaum not really. 117 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: He made a Pro Bowl, they won ten games, and 118 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: Seattle had the number eight passing offense in the league 119 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: his last year in Seattle. But John Snyder bailed on 120 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Gino and failed on DK Metcalf and signed Sam Darnold. Hey, 121 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: by the way, Pete Carroll was wildly popular in Seattle. 122 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't think he should be let go, 123 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: and then you watch him with the Raiders and you're like, yeah, 124 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: John Snyder, the GM of Seattle got that right too. 125 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: When DeMarcus Lawrence signed thirty three year old defensive end, 126 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: they brought out the checkbook. How many of you are like, perfect, 127 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: that's what we need. A thirty three year old defensive 128 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: end who I forgot about in Dallas. He had more 129 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: pressures this year than Nick Benito in Denver. We do 130 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: this all the time when somebody sees stuff. A visionary 131 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: is what they call him before you and I see them. Okay, 132 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: we always forget the risk they took. We don't give 133 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: them the credit. Everybody now goes well, of course Darnald 134 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: was better than Geno Smith. And go back and look 135 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: at some of your tweets. The DK Metcalf move. You 136 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: didn't like it, crazy one of one. There's nobody like him. 137 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: So Sam Darnald was available to the entire league. Pittsburgh 138 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: could have had him, they wouldn't guarantee him multiple years. 139 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota had him in the building. Smart people in Minnesota. 140 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: They let him walk. So Seattle's moves they look brilliant. Now, 141 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: that's what happens when you have a great visionary GM. 142 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: It look good now. And we didn't love those moves. 143 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: Go back to Russell Wilson's last year's in Seattle. Oh, 144 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: let me guess you got that right too, hit a 145 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: one three passer rating year after year after year after year. 146 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Let Russ Cook maybe didn't work but he was still successful. 147 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: So I don't know when I look at what Seattle's done, 148 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: is that a lot of these moves we just we line. 149 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: Up with show. 150 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they hit some draft picks, they've 151 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: hit everything. They Mike McDonald was a kid, unproven as 152 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: a head coach. Home run they found their McVeigh. Donald 153 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: was great in Minneapolis. Why wouldn't he be good in Seattle? 154 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, DK Metcalf, they all worked. Here's his boss 155 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: is John Snyder. His name's Mike McDonald. Here's his thoughts. 156 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 6: His leadership example from on a day to day basis 157 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 6: shows up in so many ways, just like the spirit 158 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 6: of the building, his interaction with everyone, I mean, talks 159 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 6: to more people and going I do you know, like 160 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 6: he's just he's doing this thing all the time. And 161 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 6: he's been incredibly helpful to me. He knew when to 162 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 6: kind of give you some air to breathe and grow 163 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 6: and expend and learn, you know, maybe fall a little bit. 164 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 6: And he also was there to support you when you 165 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 6: needed it. 166 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: Can't wait rams Seahawks Seattle minus two and a half. 167 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: By the way, in about an hour from now. I 168 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: do this as Jmack knows anytime you get a massive 169 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: game AFC Championship, NFC Championship, I go to both teams, 170 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: who's got the top ten players? Generally the team with 171 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: more of the top ten players. I'm doing AFC today. 172 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: I think you'll be surprised by it. Seahawks Rams is impossible. 173 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: You could go to fifteen players and still leave like 174 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: really really high. 175 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: End starters off Seattle Rams. 176 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: I got the ten players, and I'm like, I don't 177 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: even there's like four other defensive players that I think 178 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: are near Pro Bowl players. There's so much talent in 179 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: the Rams Seahawks game, it's insane. 180 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 7: Well, there's probably two guys colin on that list who 181 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 7: didn't even play in the Week sixteen meeting, Davonte Adams 182 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 7: who missed that game. Remember yeah, and Dotson, the offensive 183 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 7: lineman who's back and who is excellent against the Bears. 184 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: Dobson's in the second highest rate. Denver's got the highest 185 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: rented guard in the league. Dotson for the Rams his second. 186 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: Like they those positions you don't think about, but that 187 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: those are great players. 188 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 7: Remember those two guys missed a game with the Rams 189 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 7: scored thirty points in regulation, and had I believe five 190 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty yards of total offense. You can tell 191 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 7: where I'm leaning in this one, Colin. 192 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: I think anytime you can get McVeigh Stafford in a 193 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: healthy RAMS team in a big game plus points, I 194 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: think the side is LA doesn't mean they're gonna win. 195 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: I think that's the betting side. 196 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 7: Who's a better offensive line in this one? By the way, 197 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 7: a Rams so better coach quarterback? Offensive line? 198 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: Okay, defense though, special teams though, yes seevet, specialtyams matter 199 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 4: certain a little bit. 200 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 201 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: and neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 202 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeart Radio app. 203 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 8: Hey is Covino and Rit from Fox Sports Radio Now. 204 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 9: In addition to hearing us live weekdays from five to 205 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 9: seven pm Eastern and two to four Pacific on Fox 206 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 9: Sports Radio, We're excited to announce a brand new YouTube 207 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 9: channel for the show. 208 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: Yup, that's right. 209 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 8: You can now watch Covino and Rich live on YouTube 210 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 8: every day. 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And so we decided today, AFC Tomorrow, 235 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: NFC Ram Seahawks. Before we get to Greg co sell 236 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes. Who are the ten best 237 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: players between the Patriots and Broncos in our opinion, or 238 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: at least mine heading into the AFC Championship And here 239 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: we go. Number ten Mike Onwenu, interior lineman, New England 240 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: allowed two sacks on seven hundred and twenty two pass 241 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: blocking snaps. One of the top four to five best 242 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: guards in the NFL. Again, it's not a great old ligneman, 243 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: but it's not a great old line. He is a 244 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: great interior o lineman. Number nine, Cortland Sutton. I think 245 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: he's the most underrated number one receiver in the league 246 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: led Denver in catches yards, touchdowns. I mean he catches touchdowns. 247 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: There's only five guys in the league. You start looking 248 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: around one of five guys thousand yards, seven plus touchdowns 249 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: last two years, and boy do they depend on him 250 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: in big drives or what I mean they locked bow 251 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Nicks locked in on him whenever they need a big play. 252 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton nine. Number eight Christian Gonzalez. Patriots are thirteen 253 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: and one and allow eighteen points a game when he plays. 254 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: This season, opposing quarterbacks mostly avoid him. Opposing quarterbacks have 255 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: a sixty one passer rating when they go after Christian Gonzales, long, fast, strong, 256 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: good hands, strong hands, He's an ace Christian Gonzales. Number seven, 257 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: Zach Allen one of the better defensive linemen that doesn't 258 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: get credit. He led the NFL in quarterback hits and 259 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: pressures this season, including the playoffs. He's a beast. Then 260 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: they get him from Arizona. Nobody was talking about it. 261 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: Great acquisition. Unheralded big inside for Denver. Number six Garrett 262 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: Bowles probably plays a more important position left tackle. Highest 263 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: graded overall pass blocker in the entire National Football League, 264 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: higher than Trent Williams. He is a great pass blocker. 265 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: Fourth rated OT overall, Garrett Bulls. 266 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: Number five. 267 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs. Here's what's amazing and rare. 268 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: He is graded as a top ten receiver not only 269 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: when he lines up next to the sideline, but also 270 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: as a slot. You can move him all over the offense, 271 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: and I don't think they would have nearly the success. 272 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 4: He's the one guy sometimes you have to put. 273 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: You have to bracket put a couple of people on 274 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. Number four, Quinn Miners, best guard arguably in football, 275 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: highest graded guard this season, first Team All Pro. It's 276 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: another guy's another guy. They just don't allow. They don't 277 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: allow of loss sacks. Bone Knicks doesn't get sacked. Some 278 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: of it is bulls and miners, some of it's bon Knicks. 279 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Dad's a coach, doesn't take sacks. Is a great player. 280 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: Number three, and he's not even in his prime. Drake May, 281 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: he'll get better. First player NFL history, seventy percent completion percentage, 282 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: four thousand passing yards and rush for over four hundred 283 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: and fifty yards. And again, I don't even think he's 284 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: in his prime. I don't even think so far, he's 285 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: been great in the playoffs. Drake May three. 286 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: Number two, Nick Benito. 287 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: Outside of Miles Garrett, he's the only player with thirteen 288 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: plus sacks the last two years, and he'll probably get 289 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: one this weekend. I remember at college at Oaklahom I 290 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: was a good player, and he's kind of thin. Got 291 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: strong on that. He just he feels like he's getting 292 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: better every year of his career. Then he is a 293 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: dog in big moment. He is a he not Miles 294 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: Garrett maybe, but has a chance to be a Hall 295 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: of Famer. He is just a he's a dog in 296 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: big spots. Number one. Patrick's Artan I think is you 297 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: can make the argument he's the best corner, reigning defensive 298 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: player of the year, four time Pro bowler the last 299 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: four years, voted the number ten player in the league 300 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: by other players. Six Broncos, four Patriots bought New England 301 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: at the most important position, has a sizeable advantage Drake 302 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: May over Jarrett Stidham, and I think that's the difference 303 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: in the game. Like Jmack, I think it's really close. 304 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: And I think I said this about Buffalo. I think 305 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: Denver's high end talent is outstanding. Bowls and Zach Allen 306 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: and Quinn Minors and Bonito and Sartin. I don't think. 307 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: I don't think there's many teams in the league, maybe Philadelphia, 308 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: maybe the Rams who have better. 309 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: High end talent. 310 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: Now, if you went eleven through fifteen, I think you'd 311 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: have a few more Patriots. 312 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 4: But six' Four denver. 313 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The herd weekdays 314 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: and Noon, eastern not A Em. 315 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: Pacific and with, that you, Know Greg cosell may Think 316 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: i'm out of my. Mind let's go To greg Co 317 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: sell forty six YEARS nfl. 318 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 4: FILMS i have a. 319 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: Soft spot for interior offensive lineman because we never talk about, 320 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: him but There Quinn minor is a great example of 321 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: a guy that you, know nobody ever talks, about but 322 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: he and bowls that offensive line For denver's a real 323 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: thing your, Thoughts, Greg. 324 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 10: I'm just wondering where the long snappers are on your, List. 325 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 10: COLIN i figure they'd be in the top. Ten you, 326 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 10: know the player that really stood out to, me And 327 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 10: i'm glad you had him very, high AND i think 328 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 10: it speaks to a significant matchup in this game Is 329 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 10: Nick benito because As i'm sure you've noticed That i've 330 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 10: studied the. Tape, Obviously Will campbell has been having significant 331 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 10: problems in one on one pass protection over the last 332 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 10: two three weeks against really good, rushers of Which benito. 333 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 10: IS i, Mean campbell has struggled With mac And oway 334 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 10: from The, chargers he struggled big time With hunter And 335 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 10: anderson from The, texans and now he's going to get 336 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 10: almost Exclusively benito Because benito lines up pretty much on 337 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 10: the right side of the defense ninety seven ninety eight 338 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 10: percent of the. Time and the thing is is The 339 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 10: patriots are well aware of. This so what they've started 340 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 10: to do is help, him either helping him with, chips 341 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 10: which they do a, lot or even with a primary pass, 342 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 10: protector and that has an impact through your entire pass 343 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 10: game because now there's fewer receivers you can send out 344 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 10: as primary, receivers so you lose the numbers game even 345 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 10: before the play starts because you can't send out five. 346 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 10: Eligibles SO i think that Matchup campbell Versus benito and 347 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 10: how The patriots want to deal with that is a 348 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 10: pretty significant part of this. 349 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: Game all, right let's talk about two stories before we 350 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: get to the matchups Between New england And shirt And 351 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: Seattle Rams Caleb. Williams what did the film say About 352 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: caleb and the lost of The rams. 353 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 3: Even AND i think he's been like. 354 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 10: That he's just spectacular on the good, plays SO i, 355 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 10: think and he'll get better and. 356 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: Better you, Know i've talked to a lot of coaches 357 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: over the. 358 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 10: Years i'm sure you have as, well and most coaches 359 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 10: will tell you that it takes two to three years 360 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 10: for a quarterback to really get a sense of mastery 361 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 10: within a specific offensive. System and we know That Ben 362 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 10: johnson's system has a lot of, detail a lot of, 363 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 10: complexity a lot of, nuance and that's going to take some. 364 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 10: Time there's no question this guy is a really kind 365 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 10: of elite talent just the way he throws a. Ball 366 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 10: but he's going to have to work on his lower 367 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 10: body mechanics because he throws a lot of balls off. 368 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 3: Balance because his arm talent just as an arm is so. 369 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 10: Good but that's one reason why He's his ball placement 370 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 10: at times becomes inconsistent and. Erratic BUT i would expect 371 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 10: the future to be very. BRIGHT i, mean he's really. 372 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 10: Gifted he clearly got better as the year. 373 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 4: Progressed, Yeh, SO. 374 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 10: I MEAN i think it's a. Positive there's nothing really 375 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 10: negative to. Say the guy's only in his second. 376 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: Year mike McDaniel, chargers what will he potentially bring To 377 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: Justin herbert that maybe he hasn't had in his. 378 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: Career, YEAH i don't. Know if you Know mike McDaniel at. 379 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 10: All i've been around, him and he's an incredibly intelligent 380 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 10: guy just overall and incredibly intelligent and football as. Well 381 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 10: and you, know a lot of people immediately, thought, well 382 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 10: what's he going to? Do you, know you can't run 383 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 10: the two offense With Justin Herbert mike McDaniel knows. That 384 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 10: i'm sure that was, discussed and he's not going to do. 385 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 10: That there might be elements of, that because there's always 386 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 10: elements of quick game and rhythm throws in any. Offense 387 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 10: but he's going to look At Justin, herbert Which i'm 388 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 10: sure he has already in great. Detail he probably did 389 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 10: that before he interviewed with, them and he's going to 390 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 10: see exactly What Justin herbert's traits, are and he will 391 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 10: tailor what he does in the past game to What 392 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 10: Justin herbert is because you always tail your pass game 393 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 10: to your quarterback strengths and you try to minimize what 394 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 10: you believe his limitations. Are the one area THAT i 395 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 10: think will improve dramatically will be their run. GAME i, 396 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 10: mean obviously they had a lot of injuries on the old. 397 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 10: Line you assume That slater And alt will be. BACK 398 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 10: i would Expect omary and him to have a really 399 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 10: good season this year in A mike McDaniel run. Game 400 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 10: BUT i think it's a really good signing Because mike 401 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 10: McDaniel is incredibly, intelligent very, expansive very. 402 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: Thoughtful, okay let's Talk New england And. 403 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: Denver do The patriots offense or The patriots defense matchup 404 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: better against The. 405 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 10: Broncos, well The patriots defense over the last number of 406 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 10: weeks has really been, good and they've increased their blitz 407 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 10: frequency and their blitz quotions quite a. Bit they play 408 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 10: a ton of man, coverage and it'll be interesting to 409 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 10: see How Sean payton deals With Jared. Stidham, Now Jared 410 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 10: stindham has been in that offense for three, years he's 411 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 10: been With Sean, payton so this isn't new to. Him 412 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 10: but obviously it's new playing and it's obviously a big. 413 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 10: Game but my sense Is Sean, payton to, me is 414 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 10: not the kind of guy that's going to try to 415 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 10: hide the. QUARTERBACK i think he's going to play his. Offense, now, 416 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 10: again that doesn't mean he'll do exactly the same thing 417 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 10: he would Have Bone nix's, Playing BUT i think it's 418 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 10: about concepts and he's going to try to be. AGGRESSIVE 419 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 10: i would think on early downs where the predictability of 420 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 10: the defense is more than it is on let's say 421 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 10: pure pass situations are third and. Long so BUT i 422 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 10: do not believe he will try to hide his quarterback 423 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 10: in this game at. All but this has become a 424 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 10: very difficult defense to play. Against with a lot of 425 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 10: really good players that a lot of people might not 426 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 10: be aware, of Like Milton, williams Like, Barmore they're really good. 427 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: Inside let me ask, You jared stood them out of. 428 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: College do you recall how you sized him? 429 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: Up what do you think of? 430 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 10: HIM i Thought stidham was the kind of guy, that 431 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 10: in the right, situation with development and, cultivation could be 432 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 10: one of those mid level type. Starters you know that 433 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 10: he would need other, things you, know he need a run, 434 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 10: game he need a good, defense because he wasn't the 435 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 10: kind of guy you'd want dropping back thirty five or 436 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 10: forty times that he could end up being that kind of, 437 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 10: guy you. 438 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: Know and it hasn't worked. 439 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 10: Out and there's many many reasons and is why that 440 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 10: does work out and doesn't work. Out BUT i thought 441 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 10: that he was good enough to be one of those 442 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 10: mid level starters if the situation was absolutely. 443 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: Correct, yeah kind of A Kirk cousins maybe where you 444 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: could win a division with. Him you may not Win Super, 445 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: bowls but you can win a lot of. 446 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 10: Games, Stylistically, YES i think he's. That and he was 447 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 10: a little more mobile Than Kirk. Cousins but, yeah he's 448 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 10: you know, again we don't know what he's going to 449 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 10: do in this. 450 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 3: Game there's no way of. Knowing there's no way of. 451 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 10: PREDICTING i Guess i'd be surprised if he's, Bad but 452 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 10: you know, again he's Probably they're not going to ask 453 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 10: him to carry them unless the game turns into that 454 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 10: kind of game where he has to drop back forty. 455 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: Times, no we Know denver gets a pass. Rush is 456 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: The bronco defense built to stop or slow Down Drake 457 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: may and this offense it's Not, houston but it is 458 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: aggressive and get. 459 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: Sacks, well the crazy thing Was. Colin The bronco defense 460 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 3: was not very good last. 461 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 10: Week and from what Everything i've, heard they were playing 462 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 10: against the quarterback who apparently is one of the worst in. 463 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 10: Football that's WHAT i seem to have been hearing all 464 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 10: week on social. Media but they could not stop The. 465 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 10: Bills The bills put up thirty points against, them and 466 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 10: that does not happen At Male high or whatever they 467 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 10: call it. NOW i guess that doesn't happen very often at. 468 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 10: All they really didn't get To Josh allen very. Much 469 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 10: The bills pretty much went up and down the, field 470 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 10: SO i would assume they'll play. Better you, know The 471 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 10: patriots offense, is it's obviously a very good. 472 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: Offense may has not been quite as good in the. Playoffs. 473 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 10: Clearly last week they played a really good, defense and 474 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 10: that defense really dominated The patriots. Offense last, week The 475 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 10: texans defense. DID i would expect the pass rush to 476 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 10: be a bigger factor this. Week we talked About Will. 477 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 10: Campbell so you, know it is a very very good, 478 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 10: defense and they're good at all three. Levels, now the 479 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 10: one area WHERE i think you can attack with The 480 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 10: broncos defense IS i think you can attack their. Linebackers 481 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 10: in the past. 482 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: Game, yeah all, right RAMSEEAHAWKS la in two games has 483 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: averaged thirty points in four hundred and fifteen. Yards that's 484 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: saying something Against seattle's. Defense, yes The rams offensively been 485 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: so effective Against seattle's. 486 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 10: Defense, well and everybody wants to Talk, stafford and in 487 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 10: the second, Game stafford was. Phenomenal but they have been 488 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 10: able to run the ball collin against that defense and 489 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 10: very few people have been able to do. THAT i 490 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 10: think they've run for one hundred and twenty plus in both. 491 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 10: Games the style of running with their duo concept where 492 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 10: you have double teams on both defensive, tackles has allowed 493 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 10: them to be somewhat effective because most teams cannot Get 494 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 10: Byron murphy And Leonard williams block their two defensive tackles On. 495 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 10: Seattle most teams can't get those guys. Blocked the forty 496 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 10: nine ers in two games could not get those guys. 497 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 10: Blocked they've both been unbelievably. Good it's a really good. 498 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 10: Defense they're a nickel. Defense eminori is a you, know 499 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 10: plays lines up in different depending on what the offensive formation, 500 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 10: is and he's basically a four to Three sam. Linebacker 501 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 10: they're just very good at all three. Levels and they're 502 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 10: a team that plays mostly out of a too deep, 503 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 10: shell so it's very hard to get big plays over 504 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 10: the top of. 505 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: Them THE rams defense has, flummixed has Confused Sam. Donald 506 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: belichick had success with. This what do The rams do? 507 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: TO i Mean Sam donald a lot of wins and 508 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: a lot of yards and a lot of. Topchdowns the 509 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: last two YEARS rams have given him. 510 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 10: Fits Why, YEAH i think one of the things you 511 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 10: try to do with any, quarterback but With, donald who's 512 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 10: always at times had this, issue is changing the picture 513 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 10: pre snap to post. Snap some might remember in the 514 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 10: second game there was an interception By, wallace who doesn't 515 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 10: play now because lakes, back but there was an interception 516 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 10: By wallace where they showed man to man pre snap 517 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 10: and it turned out to be zone and read it 518 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 10: as a man and threw a pass that was picked. 519 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 10: Off SO i think With Sam donald you try to 520 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 10: do a lot of. That you try to change the 521 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 10: picture pre snap to post. Snap, now one area where 522 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 10: The seahawks have been much better over the last. 523 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: Month is running the. Football. 524 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 10: Now Obviously charbonne's out in this, game But walker's been much. 525 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 10: Better walker has been attacking downhill much more. 526 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: So over the last three four. 527 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 10: Games he's often been much more OF i always thought 528 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 10: of him as kind of a jazz, musician you, know 529 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 10: sort of improvising and looking for. 530 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: Things whereas the last three four weeks. 531 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 10: He's been a little more attacking downhill and getting the hard, 532 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 10: yards and that has allowed them to stay on. Schedule 533 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 10: and it's also with their, defense Allowed donald not to 534 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 10: have to throw that many. Balls, now whether that happens 535 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 10: in this, game that's hard to. Know you don't know 536 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 10: how it's going to play. Out but in an ideal. 537 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 10: WORLD i don't think they Want Sam donald dropping back 538 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 10: thirty five. TIMES i think they wanted to be a 539 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 10: very balanced offense and have their defense in some ways 540 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 10: control the paying tempo of the. 541 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Game is the defense For seattle scheme centric coaching or 542 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: is it just? Listen they're long. FAST i, Mean i'll 543 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: say this to get To Marcus lawrence at thirty? Three, 544 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: YEAH i MEAN i watched them this. Year i'm, like 545 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: has he got? Leaner who gets better at thirty? Three 546 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: on the defensive, side do they just put them in better? 547 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: SCHEMES i, mean you get more of the safety out 548 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: Of South carolina has been? Fantastic what is it For 549 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: cs've been? 550 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: Fantastic you. 551 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 10: KNOW i would never want to say that there's not 552 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 10: major scheme elements to a defense because you'd have to 553 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 10: know all the individual things they. Do and we're not 554 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 10: in the, meetings but BY nfl, standards WHEN i watch their, Tape, 555 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 10: COLIN i would say that they're more static than they 556 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 10: are doing one hundred different things like some. Defenses but 557 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 10: everything they do for the most, part is out of 558 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 10: a two. Shell look even their, pressures there's two shell behind. 559 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 3: It so they really don't give up much over the. 560 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 10: TOP i would say their pressures are where they're really really. 561 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 10: Good they're not a high percentage blitz To, okay they rush, four, 562 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 10: right they rush four and they stuck really really. Well 563 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 10: but when they do, pressure it's really well. Done And 564 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 10: mike McDonald has such a great understanding of protections by 565 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 10: the opponent and how to break them, down because that's 566 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 10: ultimately what you're trying to do with, Pressure you're trying 567 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 10: to break down. 568 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: Protections, Finally Sam, darnald give me a play you like 569 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: From donald this? 570 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 10: Week, yeah, YEAH i Thought donald there was a great 571 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 10: play the touchdown he threw it To smith And. Jig 572 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 10: but he only THREW i think seventeen balls this. Week 573 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 10: but let's look at the touchdown he threw To smith And, 574 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 10: jig because this was just a really really good play 575 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 10: and the kind of play that you know is just 576 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 10: one of those you, go, wow that's just really. 577 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: Good and so this play obviously low red. 578 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 10: Zone you're going to See, donald he's under, center it's twelve, 579 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 10: personnel you're going to have the back and two tight. 580 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 10: Ends you're going to see the two receivers Here cup 581 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 10: And smith And. Jig but now they have reduced. Splits 582 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 10: and the reason they have reduced splits is because they're 583 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 10: going to run mirrored, crossers and you run crossers very 584 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 10: often you want your receivers closer to the ball because 585 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 10: you want to get them across the. Field so now 586 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 10: what happens here is you're going to see pressman on the, 587 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 10: outside receivers a cup In smith And jigba by the 588 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 10: forty nine, ers and you're going to See. Barner he'll 589 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 10: motion across the. Formation now that's just a mechanic of the. 590 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: Play his motion across the. 591 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 10: Formation obviously it's an important, part but he's going to do. 592 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 10: It so now what you're going to get is you're 593 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 10: going to get play action And Sam, darnold who will 594 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 10: boot to his, left he'll boot into the. 595 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 3: Boundary so there's not a lot of. 596 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 10: Space so ultimately what he's looking for here Is smith 597 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 10: And jigba on the crosser into the. Boundary but that's very, Muddy, 598 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 10: colin that's a very muddy. Look you're just uncertain as 599 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 10: to where to throw the. Football So sam has to keep, 600 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 10: rolling he has to keep rolling, out and as he 601 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 10: gets further, out he sees there's another safety's sitting right. 602 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 10: There this play right now looks like it is absolutely, 603 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 10: dead but he just keeps rolling and it's an unbelievable 604 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 10: throw To smith And Jake. Ben you can see from 605 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 10: this angle just how hard and difficult a throw this. 606 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 10: Is and that's just a big time. Throw and the 607 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 10: key thing is we all know with any, quarterback people 608 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 10: like to focus With donald about it is. Turnovers and 609 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 10: if he doesn't turn it, over their team is really 610 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 10: really good in pretty much every. 611 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: Area Greg cosel forty six YEARS Nfl. Films we always get. 612 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: Smarter great seeing. 613 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: You, Greg Thanks, colin appreciate. 614 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 4: It, boy that is going to be something. 615 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Else these games are going to. Be Really i'm bummed. 616 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: OUT i want to see bow. Next BUT i Remember 617 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: jarret's did him in? COLLEGE i, Mean Sean payton got 618 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: The denver remember when he paid him twelve million to 619 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: be a backup he was with A. RAIDERS i think 620 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: they paid him twelve. MILLION i remember being on the 621 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: air that. 622 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: Day, man he must like. 623 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: Him so you, KNOW i always say who likes the? 624 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: Quarterback shanahan Loved, Donald kevin O'Connell really Liked. Donald, Yeah 625 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: DEN i kept buyding To donald. McVeigh i really Like Baker, mayfield, 626 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: WELL i, Know Baker mayfield's pretty. Good stefanski for a, 627 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: while really Like Baker. Mayfield Liam cohen really Like Baker. 628 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: Mayfield that tells Me Baker mayfield's pretty. 629 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 4: Good