1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're on every day from 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 2: one until four o'clock and then after four o'clock John 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. Another day 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: goes by, Another day of virtually no progress when it 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: comes to rebuilding after the fire the Palisades in Altadena. 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Another day of virtually no information as to what started 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: the fire, why the reservoir wasn't filled, why the hydrants 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: didn't work. Everybody, everybody in government is stonewalling, hoping everyone 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: stops scaring. But we keep forging on here, and we're 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: going to talk now with Sue Pasco. Sue is a 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: journalist from the Palisades. She's the editor of Circlingthnews Circlingthnews 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: dot com, which is an online news website, and she 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: flagged us an interview that was done by the La 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: Times podcast host named Kate Cagel with Lindsey Horvath. And 17 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna play a couple of clips along the way, 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: but first let's get Sue Pasco on here. Sue, how 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: are you? I'm good? 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: I just you know all this crap basically about officials 21 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: trying to ignore that they were responsible is just driving 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: to me crazy. 23 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: Have you learned anything new about their lack of preparation 24 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: lack of response? 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: But John, don't you know they had everything ready? Just 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: listen to Lindsay in this interview. She was beyond prepared. 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: So you know, they were prepared, so it wasn't their fault. 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: Uh, let me play a clip here. Let's play in fact, Eric, 29 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: let's play cut number two, and this is Lindsay Horvath 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 2: talking to Katie Cagle from the Times about how everybody's 31 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: county and state firefighters were prepositioned. 32 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 4: In addition, of course, the county operation was already underway. 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: We had worked with the state to stage various teams 34 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: from all over the state that came to southern California 35 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: to stage throughout Los Angeles County in preparation for this 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: red flag event. We had Los Angeles County Fire that 37 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: was staged and one of the things that came out 38 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: of Woolsey. We have an Emergency Operations Management, a whole 39 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: division that is focused on this work, and so our 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 4: officer who leads that was, you know, bringing everyone together, 41 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: and in fact, we opened our EOC our Emergency Operations 42 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: Center in advance of the fire ever breaking out, because 43 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: we wanted to be ready. 44 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: To go stop stop it there. Well, there you go. 45 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: What you just said. She claimed there was a county 46 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: and state prepositioned all of the Palisades. There wasn't a 47 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: single fire truck prepositioned in Palisdes nobody. 48 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: No. And even in Altadena, where the fire was, there 49 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: was only one county fire truck over in West Altadena. 50 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure where these fire trucks were positioned. 51 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: A lot of the residents in Palisades saw there said 52 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: there was an enormous amount of fire trucks landed up 53 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: on will Rogers Beach. I don't know if they were 54 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: county or city, but they were just lined up there 55 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: during the fire. So, and the other interesting thing she 56 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 3: said is we opened up the office, and then if 57 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: you listen to the interview, they opened up the emergency 58 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: office on Tuesday morning, January seventh, the fire started at 59 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: ten thirty. Did they even get into the office before 60 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: the fire started? 61 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: I looked up because we caught Newsome in a big lie. 62 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: He claimed that state cal fire trucks were prepositioned the 63 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: closest one we could find was in Santa Clarita. I 64 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: mean it was like twenty miles away. 65 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. Parting to residents who were pretty 66 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: much everywhere, there were no fire trucks around the pala 67 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: save waiting to go anywhere. The shoogle mentioned Sunset Mesa, 68 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: which is sort of by the ocean, by the Getty, 69 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: and those residents said, in the past there have had 70 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: fire trucks preposition there, but not this time. There were 71 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: no fire trucks anywhere. 72 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: Let me let me play another clip here because she 73 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 2: spent some time with This Times podcast on this Blue 74 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: Ribbon Commission, and here she discussed the water issue, about 75 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: the lack of water pressure hydrants not working at all. 76 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: Play cut number seven. 77 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: How did the commission suggest we tackle the water issue? Well, 78 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 4: there were a lot of suggestions, and in fact, in 79 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: our region, in the third district, we have several different 80 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: water agencies. I mentioned water Works twenty nine, which the 81 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: county leads, but there's also the Las Virginis Municipal Water 82 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: District that has been doing extra ordinary innovation in terms 83 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 4: of providing clean drinking water for the region and thinking 84 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: about water resiliency. Going forward and how we source water locally, 85 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: not only for clean drinking water, but also to fight 86 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: fires and address emergency circumstances. So we have a lot 87 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: of great expertise right in our region and that's why 88 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 4: we tried to put it at the table. But they 89 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: we also need to invest in the infrastructure that can 90 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: help us deliver water in that way. 91 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: And I can just stop. 92 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: Where was Eli Early in the interview, they asked her 93 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: about the Santas Reservoir. She sort of smugly said, well, 94 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: that's the city and the question the interviewer could have 95 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: asked her is, well, where does the county get its 96 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: water for the helicopters if not from the SA reservoir, 97 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: which it has in the past. 98 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Right. 99 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: Well, but what I don't understand is why they all 100 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: since the first fire warnings went out on January second, 101 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: and there were actually some National Weather Service warnings about 102 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: a major window going back to December thirtieth, why they 103 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 2: didn't convene a meeting city and county and state local 104 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: officials everybody and go through how many fire trucks do 105 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: you have? Where can we park them? How much water 106 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: is available? Is that reservoir filled? They never had these meetings, 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: they never discussed any of this. And how did the 108 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: reservoir not be filled for a year. Nobody wants to 109 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: talk about that. 110 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: Oh, one of my readers said, I found out already 111 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty four. So that's when I contacted 112 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: the city and said, you know, the reservoir is not filled. 113 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: And that's when they explained to me, oh, well, our 114 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: fire trucks get water from hydrants. It's the county and 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: the state that uses the reservoir. It's sort of like, okay, 116 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: how are they going to use it if it's not filled. Well, 117 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: it makes no sense. 118 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: That's just gibberish. 119 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: You get exactly, exactly. 120 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: Just nonsense. That's one hundred and seventeen million gallons that 121 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: didn't exist, and it should have existed, and nobody's taken 122 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: responsibility for this yet. 123 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: And Chatagua was empty too. There's a reservoir on the 124 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: top of Chicagua that they had initially used in nineteen 125 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: seventy eight to help put out the fire that came through. 126 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: But that reservoir they drained in June. They sort of said, well, 127 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: maybe we'll use it while Lestagianezza is down. They drained 128 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: it because residents are saying garbage cans are flowing down 129 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: the streets and everything, and then it appears they decided 130 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: not to refill it for whatever reason. So that reservoir, 131 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: which could have provided some water with empty too. 132 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: So is this Blue Ribbon Commission just an all purpose 133 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: talking point to divert conversations when reporters ask questions. 134 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: I think what it is is it's a blueprint to 135 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: try and take over some land and try and tell Okay, 136 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: so the people's Pacific and the people of Altadena have 137 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: been screwed basically, they don't have money to rebuild, and 138 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: so what this Blue Ribbon Commission is going to do 139 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: is going to tell us how we should do everything 140 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: in the future, and it will help if you can 141 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: afford to do anything on your land. It will take 142 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: over the land right now, and then maybe you can 143 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: sell it back to you when you have the money. 144 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 3: And who's going to make the decision who's selling whose 145 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: land to? 146 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 2: What the way? What the county is going to take 147 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: over the land for those homeowners? 148 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: The authority for the Blue Ribbon Commission. 149 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to take over people's lands if they can't, 150 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: if they don't have the money to rebuild and then 151 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 2: at some point maybe sell it back to those homeowners or. 152 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: Give it back or something. Yeah, that's crazy Ribbon Commission. 153 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. And they make a big 154 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: point of saying, oh, well, people from the Palisades and 155 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 3: Alta Dina are both represented on this Blue Ribbon Commission. 156 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: So I asked, well, who's from the Palisades is on 157 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: this Blue Ribbon Commission. Turns out there's one person from 158 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: the Palisades on the Blue Ribbon Commission, the head of 159 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 3: Heal the Bay who lived in the Highlands, whose house 160 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: did not burn. She was the sole person on the 161 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: Blue Ribbon Commission from the Palisades. On the from Altadena. 162 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: There was a very interesting person on her who actually 163 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: is the founder of Some Advisors, which supports clients and 164 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: enviancing project policies and programs in the realms of climate 165 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: resilient infrastructure. So basically, you know, this woman is sort 166 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: of a lobbyist for doing all this climate change. She's 167 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: she was one of the people from Altadena. 168 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: Well, climate change lobbyists. How about an expert in selling reservoirs. 169 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: Do they have one of those people on the on 170 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 2: the commission. 171 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: Or maybe just sprain water on the fire. Would that 172 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: would that work? 173 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how. 174 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: About that keeping fire hydrants operating properly well. 175 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: And the other thing that in this interview that really 176 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: made me upset, going back to the Lindsay Horbeth interview, 177 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: which is just it's just full of it. She keeps 178 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: this myth that they were hurricane wins. There were not 179 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: hurricane winds. One of the residents in the Palisades, Michael Kurves, 180 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: actually went to I think forty eight nearby weather stations 181 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: and got the wind speeds from all of them and 182 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: the highest gusts between ten am and four pm was 183 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: thirty nine miles per hour. That was between ten and 184 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: four And then there were a few other Palisadians who 185 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 3: actually had weather stations on their roofs. One of them, 186 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: the highest he captured was fifty miles per hour when 187 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: the station went dead at eight PM, which is when 188 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 3: the flames came through that area. And the other one 189 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: had a weather station on the Huntington Palisades and he 190 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: said that the wind speeds at my location ranged from 191 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: three to two miles per hour all the way until 192 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: five pm that evening. So I really wish that people 193 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: would stop saying hurricane wins at tornado force and hurricane 194 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: wins I think are supposedly started seventy three miles for. 195 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: Hurricanes. Yeah, yeah, seventy I think I think seventy four. 196 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: You're right. Hold on the line. We're talking with Sue 197 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: Pasco from Circling the News. She's the editor, she's longtime 198 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 2: journalists and Pacific Palisades and we're talking about this new 199 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: Blue Ribbon Commission and basically it's politicians trying to cover 200 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: up and ignore all the I think or criminal acts 201 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: that they committed leading to the fire. 202 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 203 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 5: six forty. 204 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: Moistline is eighty seven seven Moist eighty six for Friday 205 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: eight seven seven Moist eighty six, or use the talkback 206 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: feature on the iHeartRadio app. We're talking with Palisade journalist 207 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: Sue Pasco Circlingthnews dot com. She's the editor of it, 208 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:08,239 Speaker 2: and we're discussing this new way to kind of obscure 209 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: politicians responsibility for the lack of preparation and lack of 210 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: response to the fires in Padalle States. Now to Dina 211 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: they have this new Blue Ribbon Commission. Lindsey Horvath is 212 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: this dope supervisor we have in La County. She's my supervisor, 213 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: and she did a podcast with the La Times, and 214 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: the answer to every question pivots to the Blue Ribbon Commission. 215 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 2: It's almost like a way to ward off evil spirits, 216 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: where we're just gonna here's what we're going to do 217 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: in the future, and you know, we're all looking ahead here, 218 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: we're all going forward. It's that nonsense. Without one of 219 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: them taking one ounce of responsibility and offering an explanation, 220 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: we're just going to pretend this never happened and it'll 221 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: never happen again. I want to play a part of 222 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: the clip here. Can you explain Ben Allen's affordable housing 223 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: bill for people? We're not familiar with it because it's 224 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: caused a lot of controversy. He's the state senator out 225 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: of Santa Monica. 226 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: This actually came out of the Blue Ribbon Commission because 227 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: I think he and then's your friends, and so he 228 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: pushed this forward so that it sort of goes with 229 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: the Blue Ribbon Commission. And I'm not sure best how 230 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: to explain and except what would do the people of 231 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: the Palisades no favor whatsoever. It would take away control 232 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: from the people, although they keep saying no, it won't 233 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: take away control from the people. 234 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: Well, it would be pushing high density multifamily housing in 235 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: a lot of the palace. So you'd have you'd have 236 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: a multifamily duplexus quadruplex's apartment buildings for a single family's 237 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: owne neighborhood. 238 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: Right, And that came out of the Blue Ribbon Commission. 239 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: So your lawn, if you take your lot where you live, 240 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: and your neighbor all of a sudden decided to put 241 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: up a duplex, there's nothing you can do about it, right, 242 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: And it's all part of the laws that have come through. 243 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: And this goes back to what you were just saying, Actually, 244 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: let's just cover everything up and go forward. So if 245 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: one would look and say, okay, what was what were 246 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: the problems during the fire and what needs to be changed, 247 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: they're not addressing that at all. Part of the problem 248 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: during the fires was one there was no water to 249 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: put anything out, There were no fire trucks anywhere around, 250 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: and then evactuation became heroweing. 251 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: And that's you know what, that's the only things they 252 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: will talk about. Instead, you get a lot of discussion 253 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: about putting in these multifamily apartment buildings basically where the 254 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: single family homes used to be, which is going to 255 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: create more congestion, make it more difficult to leave during 256 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: an emergency where there isn't parking available for this. No, 257 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: and that's what's infuriating. It's you're talking about X, and 258 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: they keep talking about Z over and over again. 259 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: They keep yeah, they are not going. We can't. They 260 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: really shouldn't be making produce plans for the future until 261 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: they can put their finger on what exactly went wrong 262 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: here and we have to change it. 263 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: How about about a plan to preposition uh, fire assets 264 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: in the areas where the fire is most likely to 265 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: hit when you have certain weather conditions. 266 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: How About how about, yeah, a fire that was there 267 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: just a week ago and was probably never put out, 268 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: a fire truck there. 269 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: How about constant monitoring the reservoirs. How about letting us 270 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: know that, hey, we've got a torn cover. We think 271 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: we have to drain the reservoir. Uh, but we'll get 272 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: it done in a month, which they could have done, right, 273 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: but instead they take a year and they never told anybody. 274 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: That's what that's what the Blue Ribbon Commissions ought to 275 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: be resolving here. 276 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: They actually lest this is a Blue Ribbon commission for 277 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: a socialistic socialism experiment, I think, and I would that is. 278 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: And that's what Ben Allen is. They're a bunch of 279 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: socialists and now this is their grand opportunity to start 280 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: stuffing people into apartment buildings of various sizes and get 281 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: rid of the single family housing concept. 282 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Right. 283 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: And the other thing I would I would urge people 284 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: is why are we all buying into this idea that 285 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: there's a lack of housing in Los Angeles? Because those 286 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: of us when we were forced to evacuate and forced 287 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: to find a new place to live, which we all were, 288 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: there were apartments everywhere. I was shocked at. I thought 289 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: it was going to be impossible to find apartments, but 290 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: there are apartments everywhere. I think it needs to be 291 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: looked at exactly how truthful it is that statement that 292 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: there's a lack of housing. 293 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: It's not truthful. They are dishonest because what they want 294 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: to do is get up support for more money for 295 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: homeless program saying hey, look at all these apartments complexes 296 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: that we have to build for the homeless. We need 297 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: to build affordable housing. That's what it is. It's if 298 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: you're going to pull off a scam, you need a 299 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: sales pitch. 300 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: That's a good one. 301 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it works on a lot of people. People 302 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: start believing it's like all these poor people in the streets, Well, 303 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: we've got to build them housing. Yeah, a million dollars 304 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: a unit. That's a good idea. Well, listen, I about 305 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: one more question, one more question. It's about something different. 306 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: The reason we had you on the last time is 307 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: trying to track down the money from fire Aid, that 308 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: the big concert that raised one hundred million dollars for 309 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: the for the people who are victims. Any any progress 310 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: on where the money went. 311 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: No. I just sent something to Chris Walls, is the 312 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: media spokesperson for fire Aid, and I just asked, who's 313 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: paying for the lawyers, because of course they've hired expensive 314 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: lawyers to make sure that no one. I don't know 315 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: why they hired lawyers. Why would you need lawyers to say, hey, 316 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: we're giving money here, we're giving money here. But they've 317 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: hired lawyers. 318 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: So I just just print out the list of the lawyers, print. 319 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: Out the list of agencies that got the money and 320 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: then those agencies printed out a list of the people 321 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: they gave it to. 322 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: I see no problem with that. 323 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: You need expensive lawyers. Well we know what that's about, 324 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: all right, Sue, thank you for coming on with us, 325 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: keep at it, Thank you. 326 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: For having me. Thank you so much. 327 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 328 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: Sue Pasco with Circlingthnews dot com. She's the editor there. 329 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to help back into 330 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: the Washington d situation with Trump taken over the well, 331 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: the Washington Police Department. Don Mahollock's going to come on. 332 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: He's the ABC News Law Enforcement contributor and he's retired 333 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: senior Secret Service agent, and he's going to talk about Washington, 334 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 2: d C. And the crime there and what Trump is doing. 335 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: That's next. 336 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM 337 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 5: six forty. 338 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: You can hear us every day from one until four o'clock. 339 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: You miss stuff, We've had a lot of good stuff 340 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: already barely halfway through, and whatever you missed, you go 341 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: to the podcast after four o'clock. John Cobel Show on 342 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: demand on the iHeart app. You probably heard that Trump 343 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: has taken over the Washington d C Police Department and 344 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 2: sending in hundreds of National Guard troops because the crime 345 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: has been bad in Washington, d C for a long time. 346 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: We're going to talk with Don Mahallock. Now, he's the 347 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: ABC News law enforcement contributor also retired senior Secret Service agent, 348 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: and we have him one frequently to talk about these 349 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: kinds of matters. Don Mahallock, How are you. 350 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: Good, John? How are you? 351 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: Is is it so outrageous that Trump is sending in 352 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: wells taking control over the police department. I mean, the 353 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: federal government has legal author already over Washington, d C 354 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: and has added from day one. 355 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's I don't think it's what 356 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: was done. I think how was done. I think the 357 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: fact that it was done overnight, literally with the stroke 358 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: of a pen, has caused a lot of the consternation 359 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: and the problems. I mean even for the law enforcement 360 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: agencies who now have to figure out how to coordinate 361 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: with each other where usually they have more ramp up time. 362 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, the president is doing what 363 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: he did, he has the authority to do it. It's 364 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: probably a good idea. D C has been a rife 365 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: with crime as a lot of major cities have over 366 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. The DC folks say the 367 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: crime has been reduced, but the perception there amongst the residents, 368 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: the federal employees that work there, and the people visiting 369 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: d C is that crime is still a problem. When 370 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: they're walking around homeless encampments throughout the city and they're 371 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: seeing people that look like drug dealers on a street, 372 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: corners interrehering about shootings and assaults, that is not a 373 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: feeling of safety. And I think what the President wants 374 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: to do with the administration wants to do is address 375 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: those crime problems, and that way, hopefully it then creates 376 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: the space for the city and the federal government and 377 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: some other nonprofit partners to address some of the societal 378 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: issues there that we're also dealing with. 379 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: You know, what you're talking about is so important because 380 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: we have exactly the same situation here. Whether it's the 381 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: mayor bass or the police chief. They'll come out and 382 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: do a song and dance about numbers, and then let's 383 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: say I go take a walk with my wife and 384 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: we just want to walk to the local drug store 385 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: or the grocery store, and there's some crazy, wild haired, 386 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: wild eyed guy who looks like he's capable of pulling 387 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: out a knife and slitting our throats. And that's a 388 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: constant fear. And they can tell me all they want 389 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: about their statistics, but it feels scary in even nice 390 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: neighborhoods outre And I know that's true in Washington, d C. 391 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: Because I'm reading now since Trump's announcement a lot of 392 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: people in the neighborhood saying, no, you don't know what 393 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: it's like here. 394 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: No, And I think it's true in a lot of cities. 395 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: LA being another one case in point that there is 396 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: a general feeling of unsafety in some of our large 397 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: studies because over the last couple of years, the attacks 398 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: on police, the attacks on law enforcement, the quote unquote 399 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: criminal justice reform has released a lot of people out 400 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: into the streets. The mental health system has imploded, so 401 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of folks that were released from hospitals 402 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: that would have been in hospitals, and it creates this 403 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: feeling of not feeling safe on his treats. And you know, 404 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: I would say the same thing up in Idaho where 405 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: we just had the guy who took the guilty plea 406 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: for murdering the four college students in Idaho. That town, 407 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: as a case in point, probably felt very safe until 408 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: they had four people murdered. Now, my guess is nobody 409 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: feels safe in the town, but the client statistics won't 410 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: reflect that. But the people will tell you that. I 411 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: think that's what the people in LA or DC or 412 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: even New York are telling the local officials, which goes 413 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: beyond prime statistics. Yeah. 414 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: I'll reaching just a little clip from a Washington Post 415 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: story that was highlighted by Byron New York and the 416 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: Washington Examiner. You know, there was a federal employee named 417 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: Edward Coorstein. He worked for DOGE and he was the 418 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: one who was all bloodied up. That's been in all 419 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: the media, and a Washington Post story said, well, after 420 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: Coorstine was attacked, residents in a nearby block were rattled 421 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: awake by shouting on their usually quiet, tree lined street. 422 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: One person peeked out the window and saw a rowdy 423 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: crowd of youngsters summ in masks and a young man 424 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: beaten and bloodied. Police came, couldn't find any suspects, couldn't 425 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: find the beating victim. Another crime that's not going to 426 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: be reported, not part of the statistics. How much of 427 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: that going on. Crimes happen and people are so terrified 428 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: they don't even report it. 429 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: Well, and John, that's the missing piece of this whole puzzle, 430 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: that there is a lot of unreported or underreported crime 431 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: that occurs on the streets. You know, somebody gets hit, 432 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: somebody gets smacked, somebody gets assaulted, and they don't report 433 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: it to the police. That's a crime. That person doesn't 434 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: feel safe anymore. But maybe that doesn't make it into 435 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: the crime statistics. So we need to make sure that 436 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: that incident does not happen. And look, even in DC 437 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago or last year, I think 438 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: it was, it was a Secret Service protectee's home who 439 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: was broken into by somebody with the Secret Service sitting 440 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: out front. And then you had another situation where two 441 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: guys tried to steal the Secret Service car with the 442 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: agent sitting in it. I mean, that's just hastened point 443 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: of what's going on in DC. Yet the politicians would 444 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: quote the statistics, and I don't doubt what the statistics say, 445 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: but the statistics never tell the whole story. They never 446 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: tell what's going on on the streets. In front of 447 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: people's home. They never tell what's going on in neighborhoods, 448 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: and they never tell you what's going on in dark 449 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: alleys and any city, in any city. So the way 450 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: to combat that mobilize the police. Mobilize law enforcement, Let 451 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: them do what they should be doing, locking up people, 452 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: putting bad people in jail, and keep them there, and 453 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: then hopefully then the city and the other officials can 454 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: address some of these other, like I said, some of 455 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: these other holistic issues, homelessness and whatnot. So that way 456 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: it can create a better city for everybody. 457 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: So what is the National Guard going to do? What 458 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: is Trump having his administration run the department for now? 459 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: What's going to be done differently? That's going to result 460 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: in a noticeable decrease in crime and an increased feeling 461 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: of safety. 462 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: So the National Guard is your go to if you 463 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: want to just put people in places as a deterrent. 464 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: We started after nine to eleven, where the nation was 465 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: there was going to be a terrorist attack every day. 466 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: The National Guard was deployed in cities across the country 467 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: and they were in PlayStations, bus stations, and airports. They 468 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything but their physical presence, there was a 469 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: deterrent and it made people feel safer because you have 470 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: a uniformed soldier standing on the corner there. It radiates 471 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: that feeling of safety. While the National Guard is creating 472 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: that feeling of safety, You're going to have the uniformed 473 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: federal law enforcement agencies, US Park Police, US Secret Service, 474 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: Uniform Division, Capital Police, as well as some of the 475 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: plane closed folks working with MPD identifying and tracking and 476 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: apprehending some of these street crimes that are going on. 477 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: A lot of the federal agency. The uniform ones already 478 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: have full police powers in DC. They already do traffic 479 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: stops and make arrests and can enforce DC code. They 480 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: just do it in a limited fashion by departmental policies 481 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: based upon where they work. But under this executive order 482 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: that those lines have been expanded and now they're going 483 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: to be all over DC like they were in the 484 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties and forcing d C code and locking 485 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: up bed guys, and I think they're going to see 486 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: a significant decline in a short run. I think people 487 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: are going to see a lot of police officers in 488 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: places they haven't seen them before. That feeling as safety 489 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: should come back. The issue then is how do you 490 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: sustain that in the long haul, which will then go 491 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: back to the city of DC and working with the 492 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: federal government to make sure you have that sustained effort 493 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: of safety. 494 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: All right, Don, thank you for coming on again. 495 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: Don, always good to be with you. 496 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 2: Hi, Don Mahallak. He's ABC News Law enforcement contributor and 497 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: a retired senior Secret Service agent. And we will continue 498 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: with more about Washington, d C. Because many, many people 499 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: who work in the media in Washington, d C. Are 500 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: now writing and talking on air about what they have 501 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: to deal with all the time. Now, the media is 502 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: not necessarily, in this case in lockstep with the screaming 503 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: vegetables from the Washington, d C. City Council claiming that 504 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: this is overreach, overreaction. We'll talk about that when we 505 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: come back. 506 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 507 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 5: six forty. 508 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: The cheap plastic that covers the button it's broke, I 509 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: will let it know. And the cheap little plastic that 510 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: says host Mike blues Gun. All right now, well, I've 511 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: been talking about Washington, d C. And Trump taking over 512 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: the police department, and just praying to the gods that 513 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: he finds some excuse to take over Los Angeles. Somebody 514 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: needs to take over Los Angeles. I mentioned that that. 515 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: I think what really triggered Trump is this guy, Edward Corstein. 516 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: He worked for Elon Musk. He was in Doge. His 517 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: nickname was Big Balls. This guy was actually in the 518 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: news some months ago because he was one of the 519 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: guys helping to mastermind the system to shrink the government 520 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: spending software engineer. And he's very young, and he was 521 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: brutally attacked by teenagers just two miles from the White House. 522 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: He was protecting a young woman at the time. And 523 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: I think this is this really enraged Trump because he 524 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: took it personally. I'm sure he knew the kid. And 525 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: you get the predictable prattle from the vegetables on the Washington, 526 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: DC City Council and jack offs in the media about well, 527 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: the crime right's actually falling. As of twenty twenty four, 528 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: DC had the fourth highest homicide rate of major US cities. 529 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: That's after it dropped about thirty percent. After a drop, 530 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: it's still unconscionably high. It had a higher homicide rate 531 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: than all fifty states. This is last year, higher than 532 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: all fifty states. That's after the drop from twenty twenty 533 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three. The crime rates, the violent crime 534 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: rates astronomical, doesn't begin to do justice to describe what's 535 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: going on. And here's the killer, if you'll pardon the expression. 536 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: The homicide rate for young black men have been above 537 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: the national average for decades now. They're killing its young 538 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: black guys, killing other young black guys, and none of 539 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: the city council members, many of the minorities want to 540 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: do anything to stop it. The killings overwhelmingly involved males 541 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 2: who've already been entangled in the criminal justice system. This 542 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: is according to Rich Lowry from the National Review, and 543 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: Charles Lahman of the Manhattan Institute says that according to 544 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: a report, they found five hundred identifiable people who have 545 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: substantial rap sheets, have been entangled in the justice system, 546 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: have served prison time. Five hundred names they can identify 547 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: who fit that category. They account for sixty to seventy 548 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: percent of all the gun violence in the city. Five 549 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: hundred guys. They're all guys. They're all really young. In fact, 550 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: most of the carjackings are mostly minors. So since they 551 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: have the identities of these of these psychos, violent psychos. 552 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: They have the identities, they know what they've done in 553 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: the past, they know they've served prison time, and you 554 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: can document that they're responsible for up to seventy percent 555 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: of all the gun violence. Lock them up, end it. 556 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: You lock up those five hundred violent psychos who are irredeemable. 557 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: You cannot rehabilitate them. It's impossible. They're lost causes. They 558 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: were raised without any parental discipline, no parental control. They 559 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: roman gangs, looking for victims to beat up and terrorize. 560 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 2: They look for cars to steal, they look for people 561 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: to assault and kill, and often they all kill each other. 562 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do. It's a fact of life. 563 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: A certain percentage of society is going to be like that. 564 00:32:53,600 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: We are very flawed, at times, very badly behaved, violent species. 565 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: And if you could, if you could reduce crime by 566 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: seventy percent by locking up five hundred people who've already demonstrated, 567 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: it's already been proven that this is what they do 568 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: with their days. 569 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 5: Do it. 570 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: Who's hainst this idea? Who? Why would you be against this? 571 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: Spare me the sob stories about redemption and rehabilitation. No, 572 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: no more. We tried it. Your way, your way failed, 573 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: Your way led to more dead people. I'm totally baffled, flummoxed. 574 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: I don't know why these ideologies exist. I don't know 575 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: why people believe in them, and I don't know why 576 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: normal people put up with this stuff. This is like 577 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: a mystery for the ages. There isn't a day go 578 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: by where you know people have believed in defective philosophies, ideologies, 579 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: defective politics, defective religions since the beginning of time. Because 580 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 2: the human mind is can be really dysfunctional. Not everybody's 581 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: walking around with a useful brain. A lot of people 582 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: walk around with thinking about and believing in nonsense. Nothing 583 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: you can do about it. But when you have a 584 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: group that's identified, it's been proven that they're hostile to 585 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: normal civilization, lock them up. What are we going to 586 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: lose here? What are we going to lose? Hundreds of 587 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: felonies will be eliminated from the records every year. People 588 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: will walk the streets and they'll go to work, and 589 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: they'll go to restaurants, and they'll take their kids out 590 00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: and enjoy themselves. For five hundred guys who are all 591 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 2: gonna end up dead anyway. Most of them are gonna 592 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: end up killing each other. Just lock them up. I'll 593 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: pay for that. We come back. Nathan Hockman is the 594 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: DA We're gonna He's trying to do his part and 595 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: get rid of one of the scourges of Los Angeles. 596 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: And I have never understood why white people put up 597 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: with this either. And it's those street takeovers, and he's 598 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 2: gonna do a big crackdown on it. We'll talk about it. 599 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: We come back, and we've got infratbor Mark Brigitta Diegostino 600 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. 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