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Speaker 2: Here's this week's.

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Speaker 3: Episode, Welcome In.

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Speaker 4: Welcome In. It's a Late Round Fantasy Football show sponsored

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Speaker 4: by DraftKings. I'm David Kitchen alongside JJ. You're just gonna

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Speaker 4: call him JJ for today. JJ. How's it going?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: How? Like?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: With the draft a day away?

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Speaker 2: You just best men of the year. I'm pumped.

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Speaker 1: We were singing some Doug Doug the show, Doug the

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Speaker 2: When we were young.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're aging before we you know, we're doing a.

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Speaker 2: Little before the show started. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great time. It's a it's a great

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Speaker 1: time to be alive. It's a great time to you

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Speaker 4: Feeling it, you know you you know you talk about

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Speaker 4: like pregnant ladies with a glow. You've got that. Uh

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Speaker 4: like Cardio.

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Speaker 2: Done today, Cardio is done. I made a bean salad

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Speaker 1: Just destroyed before we got on air, we got the

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Speaker 1: draft coming up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, life could not be better.

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Speaker 4: Than plans for a draft cast role tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Actually making a cast role tonight. I'm making an Asian

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Speaker 1: cast role. Got some Cocoamino's ready to make some uh

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Speaker 1: some rice noodles. You know obviously gluten free. They are

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know, I make cast rules.

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Speaker 2: It's my it's my thing.

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Speaker 4: It's your thing. It's I mean what you said, it's

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Speaker 4: your thing. I'm saying it's your thing, so it's your thing.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, by the way, I have to

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Speaker 1: say it's about the cast roles. But my Instagram account

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Speaker 1: it's private. I mean, if you really want to follow me,

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Speaker 1: I have to bet you a little bit. But I

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Speaker 1: post cast roles on there. I've had at least probably

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Speaker 1: So I am at least making an impact on people's

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Speaker 4: We should have a like a cast role recipe section

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Speaker 4: in the late Round discord that we.

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Speaker 2: Have, Yeah, a castrole channel, a.

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Speaker 4: Cast row channel, or just or just a food Picks channel,

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Speaker 4: because you can post your cast rolls. I can post

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Speaker 4: my smoked meats. I grilled.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I grilled too, Okay, I got I got my

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Speaker 4: North Carolina. Some people are saying, but as far as

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Speaker 4: the late round discord goes, I do just want to say,

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Speaker 4: starting Draft night, going through the week, and it's gonna

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Speaker 4: get crazy. You know, we're all we're all going to

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Speaker 4: be in the uh it would will it be in

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Speaker 4: the live game banter channel or what channel?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, live game mentor I'll be in there, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll be in there while I'm writing blurbs and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I'll be able to give some zapp score updates

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Speaker 1: and stuff. I think Jordan Tyson is going to probably

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Speaker 1: You could have argued that he would be in his

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, Like there was a chance that his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just putting in that five for the

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Speaker 2: He is, He's gonna look very good in the ZAP model.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I was on the WOLD cast yesterday and I

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Speaker 2: The dream. I don't even want to get paid by

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Speaker 1: I want to influence a front office by not doing

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't want to work for a team.

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Speaker 1: That would be horrible, right, Yeah, but I would love to,

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Speaker 4: Okay, Prospect Guide is available again. You've got like three

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Speaker 4: days to purchase the pre draft version and then also

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Speaker 4: get the post draft version. It's the same price. But

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Speaker 4: understand if you just want to wait until after the

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Speaker 4: draft and purchase it. You know it's got rankings for

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Speaker 4: your rookie drafts and such, but I would just go

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Speaker 4: ahead and purchase it now. Just go ahead, go to

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Speaker 4: late round and purchase it now. And also need to

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Speaker 4: do this now. You cannot wait get in a draft.

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Speaker 4: King's Early Best Ball Draft j J. You have been

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Speaker 4: like I feel like I've been doing a ton of

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Speaker 4: Best Ball drafts too, because it's starting to fill up,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, I got to get I've got

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Speaker 4: This is the early Best Ball draft, so it'll close

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Speaker 4: like during the draft. And so these these players you

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Speaker 4: So you've been in uh, you know, go draft season.

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Speaker 2: Well, last last night, yesterday was today. They're all done.

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Speaker 2: I mean I missed a couple picks, but I actually

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Speaker 2: think that because I was on top of it, I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you also did some live streams in the past

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Speaker 2: Do that.

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Speaker 4: I would just say that it's fun to get in

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Speaker 4: Draft Guide or the Prospect Guide rather, you can see

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Speaker 4: the rookies and see where they're being drafted, and there

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Speaker 4: are some there's some decent discrepancies there. And we have

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Speaker 4: I think that covers it. JJ, Let's get on to

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Speaker 4: it because we have I feel like a ton of

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Speaker 4: stuff to cover today's fantasy news. Okay, so we're going

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Speaker 4: to talk about some things that are not related to

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Speaker 4: the draft, starting with Alec Pearce's surgery. This kind of

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Speaker 2: Look, I've said it before, I'll say it again.

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Speaker 1: I'm really happy for Alec Pearce getting his bag this offseason.

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Speaker 2: I just question, I think it's rational.

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Speaker 1: I question what the volume upside is for Alec Pierce

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Speaker 2: And I say that because those.

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Speaker 1: Guys don't always come with a lot of volume, and

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Speaker 2: This is how I feel in April. I gotta feel

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Speaker 2: this way in July.

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Speaker 1: But right now I haven't been very heavy on Alec Pearson,

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Speaker 2: Bit of something to that risk profile.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right now on DK he is his ADP is

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Speaker 2: Enough to do something like that. And there's a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good for good for Brandon Aubrey. Still not my

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs are being linked to a lot of tight

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Speaker 2: That's it. Just Just pick a normal, a normal capable

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Speaker 1: Don't get an undersized guy, don't fall in love with

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Speaker 4: Just get it.

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Speaker 2: Just get a normal dude. Even Rashi Rice was not

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Speaker 2: get Jordan Tyson, is what I'm saying. It would be

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think Tyson's gonna be there

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Speaker 4: Great. Now in the chat again, if you're listening, just

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Speaker 4: YouTube hop in the chat. In the chat, they're talking

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Speaker 4: about the Kickers. That's my fault. I apologize about when

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Speaker 2: There are I don't study the draft the way that

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Speaker 1: You know, our friends that establish the run go hard

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Speaker 1: about which ones don't. There is so much smoke all

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Speaker 1: All I can do is go with what my general

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Speaker 1: It's still not that bad, you know, as sort of

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Seem like a reasonable thing to follow. Maybe it means

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Speaker 2: Because they're willing to go out.

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Speaker 2: But also I think I don't know, like we might

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Speaker 2: I remember we had that when like A. J. Brown

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Speaker 4: All right said index of suspicions that you shot me

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Speaker 1: and I definitely you know, read stuff and listen to

443
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Speaker 1: podcasts and stuff like that, and there's a lot of

444
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: really interesting thoughts on something like full body MRI and

445
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 1: the reason why people don't do shouldn't do full body

446
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: MRIs because you might discover something that you actually don't

447
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: need to fix, but you have it, and then you

448
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 1: go and fix it, and then that causes more problems, right,

449
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: So this could be a situation like this where the

450
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: doctors are like, don't go in and fix it because

451
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: it actually might cause more problems. And just the way

452
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 1: that it's being reported is like, oh, yeah, walk in

453
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 1: the park. It's like your wisdom teeth, you know, it's

454
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: like a big deal. It's fine, yeah, right, I mean,

455
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 1: spinal stuff is scary. It's always scary, and so I

456
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: don't know. On one hand, I'm like, if the reporting

457
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: is accurate, then why would he not just get this

458
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: surgery immediately and not have to deal with it because

459
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: they're saying that he wouldn't have to deal with it

460
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 1: after that surgery.

461
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 2: On the other hand, I'm like the reporting on this.

462
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: Is probably like downplaying it a little bit because nus

463
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: Meyer's about to be drafted and that's what.

464
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 4: His stock tanked last year.

465
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: And there was injury focus. I mean, realistically, now like

466
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: this injury related.

467
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 4: Maybe someone's going to get a steal. Maybe that will

468
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 4: be a prediction, or another quarterback will be a prediction.

469
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 4: In the main event, today, I will give you just

470
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 4: a quick story. I tore like my acl it. We've

471
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 4: talked about this in high school and I had some

472
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 4: scar tissue. And my wife's friend I became buddies with

473
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: and he ran his dad's office, his dad's doctor hat Rack,

474
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: who was the doctor responsible for nursing t O back

475
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 4: to health to get him to play in the Super Bowl,

476
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 4: and now he goes around. So they had all the

477
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: state of the art machine. They put me through this

478
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 4: to try to get my knee better. I stayed in

479
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 4: Atlanta and for three days went through all the stuff

480
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: and it was painful trying to work out scar tissue.

481
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, it's still hurting. So I

482
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 4: went to the doctor and I had assist on my knee.

483
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 4: That was painful, and all that work that I did

484
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 4: was for nothing. Yeah, I mean got out the doctor

485
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 4: hat Rack is though at least it was cool to

486
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 4: be like I got to do the hyperbaric chamber.

487
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: I got to do that. Yeah what the what the

488
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: professionals do?

489
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, that's my story, all right. Moving on to

490
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 4: something I haven't been done in it. That's be arrested

491
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 4: Zach Greg Branch arrested. This I don't even I don't

492
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: even know, Like people are idiots, Georgia players notably, you know,

493
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 4: just like, don't drive cars if you're a player at Georgia.

494
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: But you were already well on Branch.

495
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I was already, But wasn't this just wasn't

496
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: he just sitting on the like he didn't move off

497
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: the sidewalk.

498
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: Wasn't that wasn't that the charge?

499
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like on the sidewalk and then uh, you know,

500
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 4: he just he wasn't being It wasn't like a bad charge.

501
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 4: But still I.

502
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: Don't, I literally don't. I don't care about it.

503
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 4: You can't be arrested revenue.

504
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: I I want look, I want to find reasons to

505
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: be even lower on zach rya Branch, the player, but

506
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 1: this is going to make me be higher on him

507
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: because it's ridiculous, like he got you know, it's just

508
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: a non story.

509
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: I think everyone has been in a position where they've

510
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: probably been.

511
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: A little you know, feeling a little good, yeah.

512
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: And maybe not talk back to a police officer and

513
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: not you know, listen to the police officer.

514
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: But regardless, you know, he wasn't going to have.

515
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 4: Your own story time.

516
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: Yeah he wasn't. He wasn't being violent. He wasn't. It

517
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: was just a you shouldn't be there, and he stayed

518
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: there kind of situation and he probably you know, was

519
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: I think he was smirking a little bit, they reported, But.

520
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to me, it's not really a big deal.

521
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: I don't think it will affect his draft stock, you know.

522
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: I think that what's going to affect his draft stock

523
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: more is the fact that, you know, the movement that

524
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: he had on that sidewalk is about as much as

525
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: far away as he got from the line of scrimmage

526
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: where he played played in college. You know, the dude

527
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: just I mean, he was a screen merchant and he's

528
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: not He's just not a normal He's a gadgety wide receiver.

529
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: And this from our perspective, what we care about fantasy football,

530
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: we care way more about, you know, guys who are

531
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: not this archetype basically, right, Like this is the Malachi Corley,

532
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz, Canarius Tony, Rondell Moore to a degree.

533
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: Uh, that's the.

534
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: Kind of player that we're looking at with zach Rye Branch.

535
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: And it's just a really scary evaluation from a fantasy perspective.

536
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: As as as for the arrest, there are dudes that

537
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: are in the league right now that have done in

538
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: definitely times worse than what Branch just did, right, and

539
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: you know teams are still employing them. Maybe he falls

540
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: twenty spots or something where he would have gone otherwise. Yeah,

541
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: because it's just like enough to be a tiebreaker. But

542
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: I really don't think this should be any all.

543
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: Right, the Giants fleeced. I mean, the Giants traded a

544
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 4: pick two or a player to the Bengals for number

545
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 4: ten overall pick. Now they have two picks in the

546
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: top ten, reportedly courting Tyson as well. You've got the

547
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 4: love situation. What's your thoughts on what the Giants could

548
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 4: should do?

549
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: I think there's a chance. So look, I'm not again.

550
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: You guys are going to listen to some bold predictions

551
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: on this show today, and I have a caveat that.

552
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: I am not a betting analyst whatsoever. That's not what

553
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing here.

554
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 4: You know.

555
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: If that's what you're here for, I'm sorry you're not

556
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: going to get that. I mean, you can take whatever

557
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: information you want and use it, but I'm not telling

558
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: you to do that because I'm going pretty bold with

559
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 1: these predictions. But in my opinion, I think that Jeremiah

560
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: Love start stuff starts at pick five because I don't

561
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: think Tennessee's gonna I mean, there's been more and more

562
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: reports that Tennessee is not going to do that from

563
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: from more reputable reporters. R Jeremiah Love at three now,

564
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: some people have mocked him there that that I listened to,

565
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, like Peter Schreger, for instance, had Jeremiah Love

566
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: at three today.

567
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: I just can't look.

568
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: This is a coach that doesn't come from a background

569
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: of really heavily investing in the running back position. Number one,

570
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: but number two, I I just I don't know. I

571
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: three for a team like Arizona with so many holes

572
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: and so many problems, it just seems like such an

573
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: insane luxury to make that pick. To me, it feels

574
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: like they're trying to get a team to trade up

575
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: for that spot, for that pick.

576
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: That's where the Titans feel like.

577
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 4: Two.

578
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: Yes, but I could see that.

579
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: I could see the Giants doing it because they have

580
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff and joh Harbaugh's kind of old school.

581
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: I could I could see them going in that direction

582
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: with Jeremiah Love. Now, there's a lot of stuff in

583
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: steam with Jordan Tyson being tied to them now, and

584
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: he could go as early as pick five, it does

585
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: feel like one of these two picks is going to

586
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: be an offensive piece and that's gonna be relevant for

587
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: fantasy football. You know, if it's a wide receiver. I

588
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 1: think that Carnel Tate would work pretty well with Molique Neighbors.

589
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: But anyone should be able to work with mo League neighbors,

590
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: so it could still be Tate.

591
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean overall, I would say one of

592
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: the two picks will will end up being an offensive player.

593
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, they're in I feel like they're in a

594
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: good a good spot. We talked about love. What's love

595
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: got to do with it? I mean as far as

596
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: third fourth, Let's say the Giants don't pick him at five, though,

597
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 4: where does he go?

598
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: Seven? To Washington?

599
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, or team A team comes in swoops in. Sure,

600
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even count out like New Orleans. Still, even

601
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: though they got etn like that, it's still a I

602
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't like bet that. But the weird thing

603
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: with with Arizona is that they have They signed Tyler Algear,

604
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: it kept James Connor, they have Trey Benson. They brought

605
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: back Bam Knight, which look some of these guys. It's

606
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: like you can put on practice squad or you can

607
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: cut them, whatever the case may be. It's just another

608
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: reason in my opinion, that they're not going to go

609
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: running back, right, So we'll see. I mean, maybe maybe

610
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: it ends up happening. I would It would just be

611
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: so insane to me from a from a team building perspective,

612
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: it would be so insane.

613
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: Not only that, but it feels like people you know,

614
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm not evaluating edge, but it feels like people have

615
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: the two that are gonna go like two three in

616
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: this draft, or like they feel they could go two three.

617
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: So just get a position of high, high importance. For

618
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: a team that's rebuilding, it just makes a lot more

619
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: sense to go that direction.

620
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: Okay, Uh, we already talked about the h the Jordan

621
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: Tyson's team. Do you want to say anything more about

622
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: it or do you want to?

623
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: I think I think just that, like the only reason

624
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: we feel the way that we feel is because we've

625
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: been hearing and seeing what other draft analysts are saying

626
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: about Tyson as opposed to what an NFL team might feel.

627
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: I think that there's a chance that there's plenty of

628
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: teams out there that don't have Jordan Tyson as their

629
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver one on the board, but they're like, he

630
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: is tantalizing, and there's enough to his profile to say, oh,

631
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: he's by far the wide receiver one in this class

632
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: because we're going to ignore the downside. And then you know,

633
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: he had that workout last week, right on Friday last week,

634
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: and he looked fine. He looked totally fine, and people

635
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: are like, you know, there was that one clip of

636
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: him running that fade and he's jumping out of the

637
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, out of the building, and like it was

638
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: just like an insanely you know, as people would say,

639
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: tiktoky type type rep Right.

640
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: The thing is though, and everyone's like, oh, why he

641
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: didn't have to jump like that. Yeah, Kitchen's now imitating it.

642
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: He didn't have to jump like that.

643
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: He didn't have to do that, but guys, he kind

644
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: of did because he's showing in that situation that he

645
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: from a mechanism standpoint, his body is able to do that,

646
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: to do that thing, and he's showing the teams, the gms,

647
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: the coaches who are there that he can do everything

648
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: right now that the hamstring is in the past. In

649
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: the rear view, and I've heard you know, doctors, now

650
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: doctor Chow for instance, you know, go out there and

651
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: say that the hamstring is not the issue here.

652
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: The issue is more so the knee. And I've said

653
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: this throughout the offseason.

654
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: If you're going to use the knee injury as a

655
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: knock on Jordan Tyson, Jordan Tyson's third year in college

656
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: was probably the best single season of any wide receiver

657
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: in this.

658
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: Class from a pro rated standpoint.

659
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: So he bounced back from that knee just fine. You know,

660
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like that's a problem either. Yeah, So

661
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: I think I think all of it's just coming together

662
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: now where you know, some of these reporters slash draft

663
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: analysts who do mockx, who are tied into the league

664
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: now know that some of these teams really do cove

665
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: it Jordan Tyson, and as a result, he's just moving

666
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: up draft boards. I don't think it's all steam like

667
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: I think Jordan. I mean, I bet I said I'm

668
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: not gonna get betting advice, but this is this is

669
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: in the past though, so it doesn't matter. I bet

670
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson wide receiver went off the board a few

671
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago because of some of this stuff right, because

672
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: this is a situation where the wide receiver class seems interchangeable,

673
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: there's not a consensus. And to think that Carneal Tate,

674
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I still think that Carneal tit is a

675
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: very real chance to be the wide receiver one. But

676
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: from a at that point, from the from an odds perspective,

677
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: he was like very locked in as the wide receiver

678
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: one is class.

679
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: But meanwhile you go from analysts to analyst, you know, Lewis.

680
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Riddicks out there talking about how Jordan Tyson is a

681
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: difference making wide receiver, that he's elite and he's great,

682
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: and you know, does that model I'm not in the

683
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: national media, but does that model really likes Jordan Tyson too?

684
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: There's enough there for me to say Jordan Tyson is

685
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: a good, a great prospect, right and that he's got

686
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: a higher.

687
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: Ceiling than Carnell ten I truly believe that to be

688
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: the case. So will that come to fruition in the NFL,

689
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: We'll see, But I can understand why he could be

690
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: a top ten pick in this draft.

691
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: Right now. You've got Carnell Tait on DK going fifteen

692
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: or sixteen spots ahead of Tyson.

693
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

694
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: I think I drafted thirty thirty to thirty five percent

695
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: Tyson in my early Best Ball drafts because he did

696
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: the gap, dude, the gap on keep trade cut.

697
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: If you look past.

698
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: Rookie rankings, because rookie rankings, you had those two and

699
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: then Tyson. Tyson was the three behind Lemon and Tate, right, Yeah,

700
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: from a rookie rankings, but when you look at rookie rankings,

701
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: we have fewer players, so there's you know, there's no

702
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: gap between these wide receivers when you looked at overall rankings.

703
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's changed over last week or two,

704
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: but when you looked at overall rankings, McKay Lemon and

705
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: Carnell Tate were like fringe top twenty wide receivers on

706
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: keep trade cut, Jordan Tyson was like closer to wide

707
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: receiver thirty. Like there was a an actual gap that

708
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: was being formed from those two guys to Jordan Tyson.

709
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I just I think at the

710
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: very least he should be in the same tier those guys.

711
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: You know, I'm some people will not like them, that's fine,

712
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: but I'm saying consensus wise, it's kind of shocking to me.

713
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: We had a someone asked when we're going to do

714
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: ll So ask when we're going to do a combine challenge?

715
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: You like that rep that I did. I'll just say this,

716
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: this is the the football for that we got from

717
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, from the Fancy Full Expo.

718
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: Also, someone so so Matt is saying in chat all

719
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: this Tyson talk is going to make JJ look like

720
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: a genius or an idiot.

721
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Guys do not consume prospect information in this way. It

722
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: drives me absolutely nuts. There are I profile, We profiled

723
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: almost one hundred players in the Prospect Guide. If I

724
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: live and die by one player's outcome, when we know

725
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: there's such an insane amount of variance there, it's absurd.

726
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: It's like the way people like you Luthor Burden last year,

727
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: like well you better be right about luth Burden and

728
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: then I'm like, okay, then what you know, Like it's

729
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: just other guys that I'm evaluating, Like there's other players

730
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: that we should be focused on too. I understand that

731
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: it's a highly you know, it's a it's a top

732
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: of your rookie draft kind of pick and stuff, But

733
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: this is why I don't take victory laps very frequently.

734
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: And why you know, I'm fine with saying I'm wrong

735
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 1: about stuff because there's variants.

736
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: With this stuff. Guys like, it's just the way that

737
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: it is. Just go with a process, you'll be right

738
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: more often than not.

739
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: All right, We've got a mock draft that if we

740
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 4: have time, we can look at. But it's it's a

741
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: one of the best mock drafts I've seen. So we'll

742
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: take a look at that at the end if we

743
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 4: have time. With that's let's get on to today's data.

744
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: Today's data.

745
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: All right, we're looking at top one hundred wide receivers

746
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: since twenty eighteen with the lower than seventy five percent

747
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: or greater than seventy five percent slot. Right.

748
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was doing the newsletter that Godula and

749
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: I did that got sent out yesterday, which was thirty

750
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: stats to know about this year's NFL draft class.

751
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: I do it every year. We have a different number

752
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: every year. I think last year was twenty five, this

753
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: year was thirty.

754
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: But I found it interesting as I went through the

755
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: evaluation process with Makaya Lemon and I looked at his

756
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: profile analytically, and I've talked to Matt harmon or.

757
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: I watched him while I was writing the profile.

758
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: I liked McKay lemon more and more sort of as

759
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: the process went on, And I've said a lot on

760
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: the show that I think McKay lemon is a fairly

761
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, landing spot dependent prospect from the standpoint of

762
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: like what we'll see in fantasy football.

763
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: I think that the easiest go to.

764
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: Is looking at Amanas Saint Brown, where you know, different

765
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: kind of prospects from a standpoint of like how tow

766
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: did they were, you know what their metrics looked like,

767
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: et cetera. Like mkayle Lemon has better metrics than amen

768
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: Ros Saint Brown did. Aman Rossaint Brown, though, had pretty

769
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: good metrics for a fourth round pick. Regardless, you can

770
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: you can kind of envision what McKay lemon would be

771
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL from a ceiling perspective in fantasy football.

772
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: When you think about amen Ros Saint Brown inside out,

773
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: mover peppered with targets, you get a quarterback who's good

774
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: on those timing routes when structure is there, right. The

775
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: problem is if it's not there, I wonder what you

776
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: know we might I only see seventy percent of phenomenal.

777
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: Saint Brown's production.

778
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: Really looks like and so Lemon in a spot where

779
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't have an opportunity to get pepper with those

780
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: targets where he doesn't have a great quarterback to be

781
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: able to feed him the ball in that way, that

782
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: becomes a little bit scary.

783
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 2: Regardless, all of his marks.

784
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: Looked really good analytically, and then I did a query

785
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: for this newsletter. And I've researched this in the past,

786
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but it's it was more glaring

787
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: whenever I did it. You know, this week top one

788
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: one hundred wide receivers. This is a list of all

789
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: the top one hundred wide receivers since twenty eighteen who

790
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: had career slot rates above seventy five percent, and it's

791
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: looking at their sorry and also who had out wide

792
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: yards per out run rates above three because that's sort

793
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: of a sticking point for Mikay Lemon is that people

794
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: say he's only a slot, but when you look at

795
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: what he did on the perimeter, he had the best

796
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: perimeter yards per out run in this class. Unfortunately, there

797
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: have been other slot receivers over the last handful of

798
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: years that have come out and had really good out

799
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: wide yards per out run rates above three, I mean

800
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: yards prout run above three is phenomenal, and all of

801
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: them but one of them busted, literally every single one.

802
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: Miko Hardman, Elijah Moore, Rondel Moore, two to two out Well,

803
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: Treylan Berks, Jalen Hyatt, Malachai Corley. Those are the dudes

804
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: who had yards per out run rates on the outside

805
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: greater than three and a seventy five percent slot rate

806
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: above seventy five percent. The only hit is Jackson Smith

807
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: and Jigba. Now, if you look at Jackson Smith and

808
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Jigba's profile, I would say that matches up more. This

809
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: is where the pro side comes from. Akai Lemon A

810
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: little bit is that. And some people might be wondering, like, well,

811
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: why would they be so good on the outside on

812
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: the perimeter in yards perro out run when their slot

813
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: rates so high. One of the reasons could easily just

814
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: be variants, right, because when you are playing in the

815
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: slot so much, that means you're not out wide that much.

816
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: When you're not out wide that much, your sample size

817
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: is small, and that can skew things. It's very similar

818
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: to the argument that people have about zone versus man

819
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: right now, where they're sitting there and they're like, oh,

820
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: zone yards per out run is so much more predictable

821
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: and predictive than man yards per out run, which is

822
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: not wrong. But at the same time, players play against

823
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: zone more frequently, and so when there's more zone reps

824
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: and more zone routes, you get a higher sample size

825
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: which will increase that correlation because the better wide receivers

826
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: are going to be good in zone just like they're

827
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna be You can look at career archs per out

828
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: run and get a similar, you know.

829
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: Uh outlook on a player.

830
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: Let's say, you know, basically like I think zone yards

831
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: pro outrun you can look at and you can start

832
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, this is really frightening for this prospect.

833
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: But don't only use that number to justify drafting a

834
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: player or not. Now, it's a similar thing with MacKaye Lemon.

835
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: The problem the difference with McKayle Lemon to a to

836
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: to at Well or even trey Lon Burks.

837
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: He had at a better career archs per out run rate.

838
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: You can see in this chart it was better than

839
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: everybody but Jackson Smith and Jigva Right.

840
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 2: He had a really elite first downs per out run rate.

841
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: He had a really good slot per out run rate.

842
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: The old only one on this group that was above

843
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: three in slots and slot yards per out run was

844
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigbo, which tells you which is kind

845
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: of counterintuitive, because they're slot players, but they're not great

846
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: and they're not as good in the slot as they

847
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: are in the perimeter. But again, it just goes back

848
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: to this idea that you're getting a larger sample size

849
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: from the slot because more reps are coming from the slot.

850
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: And the good thing for makay Lemon is that he's

851
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: a two point eighty six yards per out run right

852
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: from the slot. That's better than all of these wide receivers.

853
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: He's also you know, a lot of these guys are

854
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: early declares, but he's an early declare. There's a lot

855
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: of good stuff to makay Lemon's profile, But I do

856
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: think that this speaks to the idea more about McKay

857
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: lemon being more landing spot dependent than maybe some other

858
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: people would think. And it's just another reason why I

859
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable with having Jordan Tyson as the wide

860
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: receiver one in.

861
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 5: This class with a name like Lemons it's tough, like

862
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: if you're a bust, because then people just the puns

863
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 5: ripe themselves.

864
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: Someone in the chat mentioned Brian Hartline. Uh, you know

865
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 4: that OSU receivers, State receivers have the had the benefit

866
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: of Brian Hartline. Anxious to see if that, uh, that

867
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: trend continues. As far as Heartline and his wide receiver

868
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: magic he.

869
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: Move, didn't didn't he go to a different isn't he coaching?

870
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 4: And uh, Miami, yeah, Miami, Well we're.

871
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: He No, he's signed with a South Florida That's what

872
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: it was.

873
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, USF that's where Miami is located in South Forida. Yeah,

874
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: but I mean like like, yes, I was thinking of

875
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 4: where he was as a receiver, actual receiver.

876
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I knew that he went somewhere else though,

877
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: and so it's gonna be interesting to see, what if

878
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: there's a pipeline there right, all of a sudden we

879
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: get all these wide receivers. But yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

880
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: It's very interesting.

881
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: Also, Matt Matt said, because I, uh, whenever he said that,

882
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: JJ's either gonna look like an idiot or a genius.

883
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson he says, I'm just gonna go back to

884
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: missing the live stream. JJ doesn't have a chance to

885
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: call me out. I love you, Matt, I love you.

886
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just happy he is VP of missing

887
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: the live stream.

888
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 4: All Right. With that being said, let's get onto it.

889
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: It's the main event. It's the late round, main event,

890
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: all right. The first one, these are bold predictions. We

891
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: have predictions. The first one is that Jonah Coleman is

892
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: going to be the second running back drafted.

893
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot, Like I think Jenarian

894
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: Price is the favorite for sure. I'm putting Jonah Coleman

895
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: here because I think he has the best, like from

896
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: a from a real team perspective, right, Like I'm not

897
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: talking fantasy and what we're looking at.

898
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: Like, I like Emma Johnson a lot.

899
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: I think Emma Johnson, you could argue, has this too,

900
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: But Jonah Coleman has the size, and he has the production,

901
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: and he has that do it all ability that we've

902
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: already seen happen, you know in college.

903
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: He has a good pass catching profile for his size too. Yeah.

904
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: The thing that I think, you know, he didn't test

905
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: the combine.

906
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: He actually didn't test athletically, I think at all he

907
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: didn't have a forty least. And I think that from

908
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: like a a normy perspective, you know, draft analysts who

909
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: are putting together mock drafts naturally pushes a guy down

910
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: a little bit because of the uncertainty. But teams might

911
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: not either not care about that as much or they

912
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: have information that we don't have. And so it's a

913
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: long shot, but I'm gonna say that Jonah Coleman is

914
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: the RB two in this class from a draft capital perspective.

915
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: There you go. You've got Carson Beck is the Steelers target.

916
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some vibes trending in this direction, some reports

917
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: out of Pittsburgh that it could be the pick. But

918
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting about this, and this is probably

919
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: my least fun call out on this show in my opinion,

920
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: the Carson back one. But I think that the Steelers,

921
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: when you look at their quarterback room, obviously they're waiting

922
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. They have Will Howard, who they're gonna

923
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: hypothetically be starting this year. If Aaron Rodgers is not,

924
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't report, it doesn't want to play.

925
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: I still think Aaron Rodgers is gonna play.

926
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: I've been drafting him in Bestball because you can get

927
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: him in like the twentieth round, and you know, you

928
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: get a free, potential free starting quarterback.

929
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: But Beck at least has that experience where.

930
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to find that really with

931
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks to that degree, and that would be intriguing

932
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: for a team like Pittsburgh where that room does.

933
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 4: Not have that. You've also got Garrett and Asmeyer, the

934
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 4: guy we just talked about.

935
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. I think the Steelers will probably throw

936
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: a dart at Yeah, they have to. You would think

937
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: if they don't, then they know something about Aaron Rodgers.

938
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: But even with Aaron Rodgers, I feel like they still

939
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 4: have to.

940
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: It's so ridiculous though, that this quarterback, Like if the

941
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: media and what is being reported is true and what

942
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: they're saying the media is true, I don't know. It

943
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: feels like they should have They would have been doing

944
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: more at the quarterback position if they thought that Aaron

945
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: Rodgers was not coming back.

946
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when they went and got Pittman and you

947
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: could had cousins you know, yeah, yeah, yeah right. The

948
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: next bold prediction, Denzel Boston isn't picked in round one,

949
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: so after.

950
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: All that steam Yeah, he's not gonna be picked around one.

951
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: Again, all of these are bold predictions, so I think

952
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: that they're going to happen. That's why they're bold, right Like,

953
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: I think Denzel Boston's probably a Round one wide receiver,

954
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: but he's dipped that low outside of round one in

955
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: early April and NFL mock draft database, and he doesn't

956
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: have a clean analytical profile, you know. I talked about

957
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: that on the show that dropped yesterday on the on

958
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: the pre draft ranking show.

959
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of reporting.

960
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: Now, Look, I don't I don't see like when I

961
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: look at floor and ceiling for a player, I'm looking

962
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: at it mostly analytically, and usually this kind of arch

963
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: type of player I would almost always put as highly volatile,

964
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: right like, But but volatility doesn't always equate to floor ceiling.

965
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: And the way that teams are viewing him is that, seemingly,

966
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: because I've seen this said multiple times, is that he's

967
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: a floor guy, but not a ceiling guy, you know,

968
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: in the way that they describe Denzel Boston, which you know,

969
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: my top com for him, I think is Jayden Higgins.

970
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: I think it's like a pretty one to one analytical

971
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: profile from from one to the other. And you could

972
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: maybe argue the same thing for Higgins, where it's like

973
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: he's a solid player, but I don't know if the

974
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: ceiling is really gonna be gonna get there. Portland Sutton

975
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: to a degree, has kind of been like that.

976
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Throughout his NFL career, where it's like it's always a

977
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: little bit more that you're you're you're hoping for with

978
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: Portland Sutton, you know. And so I think if enough

979
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: teams just kind.

980
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: Of realize that there's a situation in the scenario where uh,

981
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, teams don't value him as anything more than

982
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: a late first round pick, and then the teams that

983
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: do value him lower than that are the ones that

984
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: are picking in that range. The problem with some of

985
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: this is that late first is when a lot of

986
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: teams are drafting that need wide receivers. And so I

987
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: do think that Boston is probably going to be a

988
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: first rounder still, but I think.

989
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: That, you know, like I I feel better about.

990
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: Casey Conceptsio a first round pick, for instance, that's all

991
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: Boston at this part, or Omark Cooper.

992
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they they say the sixth wide receiver

993
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: is gonna be in the first round. If Boston isn't

994
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: in the first round. I wonder if there's gonna be

995
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: someone that might take his spot there. Gus, we just

996
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: have to wait. Mike Washington, it doesn't go day too.

997
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 4: What's it?

998
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: Was that a teaser for later in the Uh, just.

999
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 4: Let the teas play out, Just let people be teased.

1000
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: So I vibe coded something with the zapp model, which

1001
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: you guys are seeing a screenshot of here, which is

1002
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: pretty fun. It's mostly good for me because I can

1003
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: just go and and query stuff while I'm on.

1004
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: Shows and stuff like that. But uh, Mike Washington, my

1005
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: bold prediction is that he does not go day two.

1006
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: Maybe that doesn't seem bold to people. But if I

1007
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: mock draft database has I'm sixtieth overall right now. So

1008
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: that's a late round two pick, you know, Like that's

1009
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of firmly in day two right now

1010
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: after what he did the combine. But I'll say it again,

1011
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: like I thought he looked better last year when I

1012
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: watched him, and his numbers were better last year, but

1013
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: his career numbers are pretty lacking. I mean, twelve percentile

1014
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: avoided tackles per attempt, even though he had that crazy

1015
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: forty in speed Score. His explosive run rate is the

1016
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: twenty second percentile. I look how it says. It says

1017
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: twenty second percentile in the screenshot instead the twenty second.

1018
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: Got to talk to Claude about that.

1019
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Yards after contact per attempts sixteenth percentile, yards before contact

1020
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: per attempt twenty ninth percentile. That's amongst all running backs

1021
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty in the zap Moodel database. So I

1022
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: think Mike Washington is fine within the context of this class.

1023
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: I'm not really high or low. I hope he's not

1024
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: a first round rookie pick.

1025
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: Then I'll probably be out on him unless he finds

1026
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: the exact spot like Seattle or something like that. But

1027
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that teams are more interested

1028
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: in the boring guys like I met Johnson and Jonah

1029
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: Coleman instead of going the Mike Washington route. Okay, Bryce

1030
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: Lance goes late round two.

1031
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, this is a size speed thing. Teams fall

1032
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: in love with that.

1033
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: We know teams fall in love with that, and so

1034
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at NFL mock draft database

1035
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: or a lot of places, like he was a Day

1036
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: three guy for a while.

1037
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: Maybe late day two.

1038
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say he's gonna go late round two

1039
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: because it's a profile that a team like the Colts. Okay,

1040
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard loves going after these athletic you know.

1041
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce, ad Ni Mitchell.

1042
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: He loves going after these athletic you know, field stretching,

1043
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: you know beasts. They even got Michael Strahan, a guy

1044
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: from Charleston. I think he was undrafted, but.

1045
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: They even had him on the roster for a while

1046
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: and he was a six five, you know, two thirty,

1047
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 2: just crazy frame. I could see a team like that

1048
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: falling in love with Bryce Lance and getting him and

1049
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: in my opinion, overdrafting him. I just don't think he's

1050
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: as good of a prospect as others do. But I

1051
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: do think he's a very highly volatble prospect.

1052
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: So Bryce Lance to me is like one of those

1053
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be nothing for your fantasy team, or he

1054
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: could be like, you know, a wide receiver two if

1055
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: things like really really break his way. But historically, this

1056
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: kind of profile without a breakout score, had one reception

1057
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: through three years of college at a small school.

1058
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: It's a really hard sell analytically.

1059
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's some other big receivers too. In this draft,

1060
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 4: Emmitt Johnson goes ninety seventh overall to Minnesota.

1061
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be specific.

1062
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: This is what were they called it in horse racing

1063
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: exacto right, Yeah, I'm not a horse racing guy, but yeah,

1064
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: Emmitt Johnson goes specifically ninety seventh overall. They have a

1065
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: comp pick there to Minnesota because I've said it all along.

1066
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: I think he's like an Aaron Jones type running back

1067
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: and they need a player who can do everything right.

1068
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: They have Jordan Mason, who's an early down bruiser. They

1069
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: have Aaron Jones who's you know, at the sunset of

1070
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: his career. It's he's not the same back that he

1071
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: that he was, you know, three or four years ago.

1072
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: This is the kind of running back they need in

1073
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: my opinion, And I just like the matching of the

1074
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: comps and you know what they kind of need from

1075
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: a team needs standpoint.

1076
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna call it out.

1077
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: We get top one hundred capital for Emma Johnson does

1078
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: that model views him as the RB two in the

1079
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: class as a result of that, and who goes to

1080
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: Minnesota where the landing spot is great and we're drafting

1081
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: him chef's kiss and fantasy football confidence and be prepared,

1082
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: be prepared for a Day three pick to a bad team.

1083
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: Though I hope that Emma Johnson goes Simonie because my

1084
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: bags are packed so far with Emma Johnson. All right,

1085
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: oh wow, look at this. You said Boston is out

1086
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: of round one, Chris Brasel sneaks into round one. This

1087
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 4: is your other bold prediction. It's a little parlay action.

1088
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: I could see a team just liking Brasl more than Boston,

1089
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: because again, Boston has that what they're describing as like

1090
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Speaker 1: a high floor, low ceiling.

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00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: I think Brasl is a low floor, high ceiling type prospect.

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00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: Like for sure, he has a very comparable breakout score

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00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: to Boston. He has a better yards pro out run profile.

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Speaker 2: But I have this from the newsletter, then I think

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Speaker 2: is just interesting to talk about both of these players. Says.

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Speaker 1: There have been thirty one wide receivers in zapmodel database

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Speaker 1: history who were drafted in round one or round two

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Speaker 1: with a breakout score below fifty. That's like a sixtieth

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Speaker 1: percent tile ish number. I know that it should be

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Speaker 1: fiftieth percentile to be a little bit easier to comprehend

1101
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Speaker 1: and understand, but I want to show the gaps between

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00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: one breakout score to the next. Of those thirty one

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Speaker 1: first or second round wide receivers, there have been five,

1104
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: just five, who scored fourteen or more PPR points per

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Speaker 1: game in one of their first three seasons. Denzel Boston,

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Speaker 1: Omar Cooper, they have sub fifty breakout scores, which is

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00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: again roughly.

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00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: Fifty fifth sixtieth percentile.

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Speaker 1: And then I said, speaking of Denzel Boston, he has

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00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: a career yards pro out run rate of two point

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Speaker 1: h two since twenty eighteen, just seven wide receivers we're

1112
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: able to hit a fourteen PPR point per game season

1113
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: across their first three years in the league with the

1114
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Speaker 1: yards pro out run rate below two point two, a

1115
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Speaker 1: number much higher than Denzel Boston's.

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00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: Only two of them were early to Claire widerss uh,

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00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: We're only two of them were non really.

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00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: I should say non early declare wide receivers Hunter Renfro

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Speaker 1: and Terry McLaurin, and Boston is not in early declare.

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00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: Chris Brasel has a two point zero nine yards prout

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Speaker 1: run rate, so Brazl and Boston analytically are in this bucket.

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00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Of red flax right from a yards prout run standpoint,

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Speaker 1: the breakout score is an elite per se so I

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Speaker 1: but but again, I only say that because I could

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Speaker 1: see a team just shifting for ceiling and going with

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00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Brasl instead of going with Denzel Boston, and we see

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Speaker 1: him go at the end around one instead of Boston.

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00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: It couldn't could end up being like a Ricky Piersoll

1129
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: Xavier Legette kind of situation where people are.

1130
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 2: Like, oh, they're you know, early to mid round two

1131
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: type players, and then they just sneak in a round one

1132
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: because teams get a little antsy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is going to contribute just to the

1134
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 4: craziness of the draft. In our late round mock draft,

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Speaker 4: I drafted Brasl to the Titans in the third round.

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00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: With are I should say, I think there might be

1137
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: off the field stuff with Brazil two that could like

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00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: if he goes really like yeah, if he goes late

1139
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: round three or day three, that would probably be the

1140
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: main reason, because there is a skill set there that's

1141
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: at least in like a team is going to fall

1142
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't love Brazl. I'm just saying a team would

1143
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: fall in love with that kind of skill set.

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00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. Can I tease one of the comps from the

1145
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: prospect guy, sure, George Pickens.

1146
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the that was the third one I

1147
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: think for him. Yeah.

1148
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: So another guy, Carnel Tait has is much more George

1149
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: Pickens from analytically.

1150
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's an over there's some overlap there. I

1151
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: was just saying off the field uh concern Yeah with Pickens,

1152
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: and because I talked to redacted about this because he's

1153
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 4: the one doing the the mock draft as far as

1154
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 4: the off the field stuff there. But you've got him,

1155
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 4: you got Hurst, you got all these guys that are

1156
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 4: in this bucket that you we don't know where they're

1157
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: going to go in rounds two and three, and that's

1158
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 4: what that's what makes it fun, all right. So let's

1159
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 4: get on to a another receiver. We just talked about

1160
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 4: lots of receivers here the Raiders draft. Elijah Sharratt. Yeah.

1161
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: If you look at the.

1162
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: Raiders depth chart right now, there aren't They don't have

1163
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: like the contested catch wide receiver right like they have

1164
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: Jack Besh, who I think is probably not going to

1165
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: hit at the NFL level.

1166
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: He was a one hit wonder. We were Yeah, drafting

1167
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: him high last year.

1168
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I wouldn't say we were some people,

1169
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: but they.

1170
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: Have Trey Tucker, they have Jalen Naylor now who can

1171
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: play the slot. I could see them wanting to pair

1172
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: for Nana Mendoza with Elijah Surat, And it's not bold

1173
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: to say Sarah could going round three. I think he

1174
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: has a better analytical profile than that. But if Sarat

1175
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: is there.

1176
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: Round three, I'm gonna say another exact of him going

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00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: to the Raiders.

1178
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 4: There you go, a little shower narrative.

1179
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly with.

1180
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 4: Him and Fernando Mendoza at Indiana teammates. Okay, boy, this guy,

1181
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 4: he's been in the news. Zacharia Branch goes all the

1182
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: way to day three. Now.

1183
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: I think enough teams might be like, I don't want

1184
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: to spend a Day two pick because of this stupid

1185
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 2: arrest and it's gonna show judgment whatever.

1186
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna it's stupid, but that could happen.

1187
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: But also, I think he's a gadget player pre production profile.

1188
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: There's other gadget guys in this class as well, where

1189
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: a team might say, oh, I can get Kendrick Law

1190
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: day three or something. Like that, and then all of

1191
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: a sudden, they just go that, you know, they have

1192
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: that in their mind, and that pushes Zacharia Branch.

1193
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: Out of day two conversation.

1194
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 4: Speedy Gadget receiver with you know, a recent arrest, just

1195
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 4: screams Kansas City Chiefs to me.

1196
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:42,959
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's definitely gonna be a chief.

1197
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, last one, last one, And this is

1198
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 4: might be my favorite. Elike Stauers goes round one.

1199
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: He's currently forty eighth overall on NFL mock Draft database.

1200
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot, Like I said, a

1201
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: lot of teams need.

1202
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: Wide receiver help, they need pass catching help towards the

1203
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: back end of that first round, and I could see

1204
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: one of them just kind of getting cute, like the

1205
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: way that that uh, you know, Buffalo did with Dalton

1206
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: Kincaid back when they just needed wide receiver. But they're like, no,

1207
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 2: we're gonna.

1208
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: Get a pass catching tight end and go that route,

1209
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: even though it's not as clean. Eli Stowers, though, has

1210
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: a much better you know, receiving outlook than Dalton Kincaid

1211
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: did as a prospect, So like, I wouldn't be shocked

1212
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: at all if Eli Stowers ends up going round one

1213
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: after his combine and what he can do in the

1214
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: way that you know, teams are morphing into more you know,

1215
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: heavy personnel and such. The problem though, is that he's

1216
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: not he's not there yet as a blocker.

1217
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 2: But if a team sees him more as a blocker,

1218
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: I could see them making that pick.

1219
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 4: Lots of smoke to the Patriots. Apparently the Patriots tight

1220
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: end coach put him through drills at the pro day

1221
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 4: for uh for Vandy, so it would be interesting.

1222
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: There's a so Brennan and Chad no wonder. This is why,

1223
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 2: this is why I said, don't bet these things because

1224
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: they're they're long shots. They are so long shots. But

1225
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: he said parlay Bras little first round in Jonah Coleman

1226
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 2: RB two on Fandel I shouldn't say that part, probably,

1227
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 2: but it's seven to one. Do it on draftings instead, guys.

1228
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

1229
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Speaker 2: You're sponsoring the show.

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00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 4: They are. They are one of the sponsors, and we

1231
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: appreciate them for it. Oh well, look at there. It's

1232
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Speaker 4: a huge QR code.

1233
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Speaker 2: Make that bet. Actually, don't make that that probably undraftings.

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Speaker 2: That's probably about.

1235
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Speaker 4: Idea again, not betting advice. These Bowld predictions. They're just

1236
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: bold predictions from JJ. But if you want to scan

1237
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 4: this QR code, you can go and get in some

1238
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 4: of those early drafts over there on dk UH and

1239
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 4: again they're almost full, the main ones, but you can

1240
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 4: still get in. Like they've got dollar ones, We've got

1241
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 4: a high stakes one if you want to do that.

1242
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 4: So shout out to them. And also I want to

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00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 4: give a shout out to our members. Look at this

1244
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 4: right here, you see this JJ. It is our late

1245
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 4: Round mock draft. So each person signed up for a

1246
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 4: team that's a part of the Patreon and we had

1247
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 4: a mock draft. Shout out to redacted, who has been

1248
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 4: a staple, a late round member staple. And on this

1249
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 4: show for someone who almost stole the Decoration of Independence

1250
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 4: last year for the Jacory Crosskey Merrits.

1251
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean Krossky Maror was relevant for he was fancy

1252
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: relevant for the record reacted Yes, So he still says

1253
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: he is going to steal the Decoration of Independence.

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Speaker 4: We wouldn't advise that. But anyways, I had the Titans.

1255
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 4: I passed on Love Love Goes to the Giants at

1256
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: five Tyson, he slips all the way to twelve to Cleveland,

1257
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: and then Carnell Tate went eight.

1258
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: There's a trade.

1259
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's multiple trades here. Lemon to the Commander's commanders

1260
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 4: need some some wide receipt your work. But Sadiq to

1261
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: the Rams was interesting.

1262
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: It's been look I'll say this to end the show.

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00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah as well one as well wanted Peter Schreger.

1264
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I haven't met him, I r L but i've you know,

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00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: communicated on Twitter and stuff before.

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00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: Seems like a great dude. But he is confirmed friends

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00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: with Sean McVay. Like we know that he's been to

1269
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: I think he went to his wedding and you know

1270
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: he's hung out with him. He's told stories about being

1271
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: in at parties. I think McVay had like a surprise

1272
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: birthday party or something at one point. And he had

1273
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: Lemon going to the Rams throughout the draft season, and

1274
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: then today he came out with his final mock and

1275
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: Kenyan Sadik is the Rams draft pick in his mock.

1276
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: So just something to think about to chew on as

1277
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: you watch Round one.

1278
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 4: I think it'll be fun, that's right, mister Brad says,

1279
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: heard that mock draft was full of NFL insiders. Yes,

1280
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 4: there's lots of lots of US influ insiders. And yes

1281
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 4: the trade was made to from Sincy to the Giants

1282
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: after that pick was made, but it still is a

1283
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 4: good time. Shout out again to our members for doing that.

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Speaker 4: If you want to be a member, go to Lateround

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Speaker 4: dot com. You can sign up to be a member

1286
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Speaker 4: there through our Patreon or purchase the Prospect Guide JJ.

1287
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 4: What else do we have coming out?

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01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: The prospect will be out Saturday after the draft, guys,

1289
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: so be ready for that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And with that being said, again, we appreciate the

1291
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 4: chat was lively. The chat was lively today. We appreciate you.

1292
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 4: We are looking forward to this draft and getting past

1293
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: because this is a good season right now. We got

1294
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 4: the rookie Draft, we got startup drafts coming up after this.

1295
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a fun time. This was a fun show, JJ.

1296
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 4: Appreciate you. Appreciate you all, and we'll see you next

1297
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 4: time here on the Late Round Fantasy Football Show.

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Speaker 2: Peace all right and leaving Bill