WEBVTT - In Case You Missed It: #26 - Chris Janson 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.920 All right, welcome to episode twenty six to the Bobby Cast, 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:11.559 and the big big recliner next to me is Chris Jansen. Chris, 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.159 I'm doing good, brother, Thank you very much. I love 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.000 your intro music. By the way, Yeah, I don't even 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:18.480 know where this came from, Mike, do you it's a 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.840 game show music. I thought you stole it from Wayne Newton. 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:30.440 It sounds good. It's not unusual. I was in Vegas 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.320 this last weekend and we ran into your boys low Cash, 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:38.240 because they have played the same stage the night before, yeah, 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:41.479 in the National Finals rodeo, and they were playing I 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.960 think six of like eight nights, all in different places, 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.000 and so I saw I saw Preston walking around because 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.400 I mean they were playing every night in Vegas there 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.879 every single They're like everywhere all the time, man, and 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:53.960 they play inn far every year, and You're exactly right. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:55.920 They play like they look a seven day residency in 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.560 different places. It is just wild. I don't know how 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.880 they keep up with it, those guys. Preston came because 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.600 we had pressing up well like four five clods ago 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.960 may more than that. I talked about you a bit. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:07.880 You guys are close. He's one of my best friends. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.200 That's what he said. He said, he said, as far 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.679 as like Nashville goes, like, you guys have been friends 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.960 for like close friends, real buddies. We came up together, 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:22.360 and there's a difference in real buddies and work friends 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.840 that you get along with and work well with, and 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.600 then just the acquaintances at the people you don't like 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.520 to you know whatever, but you're you're like real friends. Yeah, 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.240 we're real friends. The weird thing about the Preston when 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.039 he came over because I like those guys a lot, 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:41.000 and Preston and I had only ever spent time together 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.360 either doing the radio show or we'd we'd be on 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.600 the road and play We played that thing four shows together, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:49.760 the Raging Idiots, and we get to hang out there, 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:50.960 but we never get to hang out like a real 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.000 human setting. So we just said at the house and 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.720 talked for like forty five minutes after after this year, 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.560 and I was like, dang, like I really I used 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.520 to like that dude, Not I really like it because 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.360 he's a long story dude, Like he's a he's got 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.120 a lot of wisdom. 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Now no smash cut. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.079 Three weeks later, maybe around that time, I was watching 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.639 it something called New Faces in Nashville this last year, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.160 and you played this, And when you get a new album, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:29.840 you kind of just popped through every track. When you 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.000 get it, you're like, okay, I like that one like that. 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.760 You really don't spend a lot of time with a 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.440 lot of songs, and so you played a Hole in 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.000 Her and I was like, oh my god, that is 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.560 such a freaking good song. And I was talking to 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:47.360 your label head, who I really like, to John Esposito, 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.120 and I was like, if that's not the next song 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.640 you put on the radio, like you shouldn't even put 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.520 songs out on the radio, Like just just go ahead 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.000 and Chris back, because that song is so good. And 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.240 as I look today, holding Her is now at twenty 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.200 five and still and climbing. So so talk about this 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:03.920 song for a second. Well, first of all, thank you 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.920 for the compliments on it and the kind words. It is. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.560 You know, well, you know my my backstory of my 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:14.040 wife and I met kids, and um crs. You mentioned 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.000 the country radio seminar show, the New Faces thing where 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.960 they there was like five or six artists. The thing was, Man, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.080 it was just kind of a no brainer moment. And 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.240 for me it's always been a no brainer moment because 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.520 obviously I'm very married to the song, being the writer 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.920 and singer of it. However, it's such a true it's 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.039 a true life event for me and I live at daily. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.920 And so the fact that it um that it has 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.240 had the opportunity to come out, the fact that it 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.400 did come out, and the fact that everyone has embraced 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.799 it as they have and by the way, thank you, Um, 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.240 it's just an incredible blessing to me. Man. And you know, 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.520 there's one thing to be said about songs climbing the charts, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.080 but when it's climbing the charts in a way that 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.040 is a song that means so much to you personally, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.240 and I mean on a deeper level than just a 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.159 song that you sing live at your shows and people 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.640 stand up for. Okay, okay, talk about that for a 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.039 second in case people don't know, Uh, why does this 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.560 song mean so much to you? You know, it's it's 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.599 the truest out of all the songs I've ever written, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.520 it's the most it's the truest. Um. I saw my 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.279 wife for the first time in Nashville at the in 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.120 an underground pool hall which is is called Melrose billiards 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.880 years ago, and she was um working a job for 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.479 a record label at the time, scoping out songs and songwriters, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.200 and I was down there hanging out with friends and 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.040 I just fell in love at first time. I really 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.760 did follow love at first sight. And you know, three 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.320 years later we got married, which was amazing, and it 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.599 was just like God's timing is perfect timing. And um, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.240 I walked into a house that was already a home 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.599 with the kids in it, two kids, and that I 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.560 started calling my bonus kids. It's like, I don't I 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.200 hate the word step kids. And then we had two 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.160 kids together, and really life just became just unbelievable. I mean, 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:52.880 my life really changed for the better. It was it. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.520 We've been married seven years agoing on eight, and it's 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.520 just been one of the most incredible blessings ever, aside 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.360 from anything with business or music or anything for that matter. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.240 And when I wrote this song, James Otto and I 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.200 were on his back porch and um over in Green 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.960 Hills in Nashville, and we had just had George, our 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:13.400 youngest daughter together and our third, our third child, and 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:14.640 he said, man, what do you want to write today? 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.200 And I said, dude, I just want to write about 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.240 my family, and and I just it just came out. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.800 We wrote in about twenty thirty minutes. And you know, 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.240 that song is the oldest song on the Buying Me 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.400 a Boat record, which is what a lot of people 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.120 don't know. It's the is the oldest one on there. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.120 I wrote it years before Buying Me Vote or anything 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.000 else on the whole album. And um, you know, it's 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.720 finally it finally got to breathe um and live on 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.640 this album. And now that it's living on the radio, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.359 it's a huge deal for me. And I've been playing 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.880 it around for so many years that now when people 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.760 hear it and then they hear it on the radio, 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.400 it's like they're putting two and two together, going, oh 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.200 my god. You know, it's it's been a lot of 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:48.839 people's favorite song for a lot of years on the 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.760 you know, from touring and things of that nature. And um, 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.919 since Buying Me a Boat was such a big breakthrough, UM, 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.839 it allowed you know, allowed my audiences to get much bigger, thankfully, 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.159 and now when the year holding there, it's just a 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.159 beautiful thing. The cool thing about it is too, it's 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.359 not a traditional radio song, and the fact that it 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.760 is still climbing the chart does speak volumes because one 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:15.440 it's a valid yes too, it's a very country ballad 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.880 with talking in it and still guitar and still so 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.400 there are all these elements that right now aren't mixed 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.480 together currently moving up the chart right. Well, thank you 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.760 very much, uh, and thanks for making light of that too, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.840 because I am such a fan of songs man, like 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.440 Sunday Morning coming Down or um. I mean you could 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.080 think of a million songs that have a little any 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:45.080 kind of Conway song. UM. So many of my favorite 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.480 what you would call now traditional country music, UM has 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.600 has some spoken word in it. Even some George Stray 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.120 records out of the last ten years, you know, I 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.240 mean they have some spoken word in it. And holding 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.600 her I didn't, you know, I didn't really mean to 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.640 go for that. I wasn't like shooting for anything. It 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.800 just happened that way. And um, when it when it 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.400 feels right to me in my heart, man, that's just 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.200 how I fault. That's how I e gage everything. That's 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.400 how I That's how I just do anything in my 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:09.840 whole life. When I get up to put my boots 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.680 on in the morning, if it feels right, I'll put 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.080 on that pair. If it feels wrong, I put on 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.240 another pair. Um too big, I'm getting their shoes that 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:21.680 eye buddy, that they're feeling all right, I gotta get 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.120 some sneakers, man. Uh. But you know that's how Holding 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.880 There came together. And and um, this is a beautiful thing, dude. 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.880 I'm I'm so I'm so grateful for it and and 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.760 for people to take a chance on it at radio 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.280 and and to be playing it like they are, I mean, um, 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.160 like you said, for it to still be moving up 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.000 the chart and to be such a different kind of 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.240 song as um, it's pretty incredible blessing. So you have 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.840 actually two songs on the radio right now, one that 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:47.000 you sing on, one that you wrote on, which is 0:08:47.040 --> 0:09:05.440 this one, My girl how Always Be Straight? That's a 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.240 good one, So thanks. Funny When did you write that? 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.160 Was it after the record came out? Was this one 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.800 that you were writing for Tim or writing two pitch 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.840 or for yourself or what what was the process with 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.360 this song. First of all, I love your I love 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.480 these questions, and I really I didn't thank you for 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.520 having me yet the sevening thanks for having me? Probably Hey, Mike, 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.320 you's the first one I ever bring a gift like whoa, 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.120 you can thank my wife. You can thank my wife. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.760 She had the initial idea, and I said, that's that's 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.840 a great idea because I don't know what to you know, 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:32.960 you're nothing, there's nothing to get me. You're a man 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.160 of many taste, very peculiar, peculiar taste, just as I am. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.720 And you know you gotta be you gotta be, you 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.600 gotta be touchy feely with what you get. So I'm 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.800 I'm glad you liked it. However, thank you for having me, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.040 and thank you for these questions, because I rarely, I 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.439 want to say, I rarely get to talk about songs, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.640 and I rarely get to give the back story on them. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.520 And to answer your question about that's how I'll always be. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.520 First of all, when you played that, I just love 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.679 that song. Even if I hadn't written it, I'm so 0:09:55.679 --> 0:10:01.400 proud of it. Say you're sitting in a room, I 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.719 gotta tell you this story man, this isn't this is 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.480 an amazing thing. My my friend Jeremy Stover called me. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.880 He said, Um, hi, se j, let's write a song. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.520 So okay, fine, So I want never to write with him. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.880 When I get to a studio on Berry Hill, which 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.680 is over on the other side of Nashville. A friend 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.240 of ours textas bow at the same time, named Jamie Paul. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.080 He said, hey, man, all, hey guys, you know, um 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.040 can we can I come over and you either of 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.920 you available to write? And we say, hey, we're actually together. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.120 I don't know how you knew that, but he didn't. Um, 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.120 once you come join us. He got there. He's kind 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:38.520 of having a rough day, man. Um. He he got 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.559 there and he started explaining what was going on is 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:46.160 mom had pretty terminally ill cancer, and um, we it 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.680 just hit everybody pretty hard, to be frankly honest with you, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.800 and so we just tried to lighten the mood by 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:55.840 doing something and writing songs is what we do best. So, UM, 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.920 I knew mcgrawl was pretty much done recording at that 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.760 at that point. And UM, thankfully I've been able to 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.960 get to know Tim a little bit and and um, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.360 here's some inside things. So I thought, well, you know, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.680 we maybe have missed the record this time, but let's 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.080 just write something. I said, guys, I would like to 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.040 write I'd like to write another side of my story, 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.400 the other side of holding here, like like my backstory 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.400 as a man, you know, and I tell a little 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:18.920 bit of that. Let's write it in the vein of 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.160 mcgrawl and man, maybe maybe for the next record he 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.240 might like it, you know. And so the song really 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.440 came together and it meant a lot to all three 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.240 of us, but it really meant a lot to me 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.240 personally because Um, all the words in it are my story. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.880 It's a very true to life song for me, every 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.439 every single little bit of it. And the most important 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.800 part is UM. I sent it to Byron Gallimore like 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.280 three days after we wrote it, and we did a 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.680 little work tape demo of it. He's, oh my gosh, 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.840 I love this. Yeah. Sorry. So Byron Gallimore produces Tim mcgrawl. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.800 He produced part of the Buy Me a Boat record. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.120 Um is a great friend of mine, and UM a 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.800 great friend of ours, and and just just love Byron 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.800 and Um. He and his wife, they both worked with Tim. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.920 His wife finds, you know, find songs for Tim every 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.040 now and again, and and Byron produces the songs. You know. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:06.320 I sent it to Byron to see what he thought. 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:07.439 He was like, oh my god. So he sent it 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.320 to Tim and immediately I get put on this email chain. 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.160 It's Tim loves that he's gonna cut it just like 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:18.000 I mean, days hours. I don't know what we're talking here, 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.200 from the minute you sent the work tape or the 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:21.679 demo to him to the fact that you're on the 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.920 email going, hey, I love this song. Within within I 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.120 mean within the first fifteen minutes, I was. I was 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.720 that quick swear to god, man, I got it from Jeremy. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.040 I was like, Herry, get it to me, her, he 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:33.400 gets to me, Her, get to me. You know. I'm like, 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.280 I'd like a hurry up and wait kind of guy. 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.079 I just can't stand it. Okay, I just have to 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.000 get going. And I can you please send it to 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.640 please send to me. Yeah, I'm just getting the vocal. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.240 I forget the vocal. Just send me the track. So 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.280 I sent it to Byron. Oh my god, curious, I 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.400 just love this is what Byron said. And uh, and 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.360 so he talks. He got back and sent it to 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.439 Tim within fifteen minutes I was last never forget. I 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.600 was leaving FedEx in Cool Springs, done in Franklin, and 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:58.440 I mean it just happened. And I mean you never know. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.319 I mean some I've had a million artists, Oh we're 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:01.600 gonna cut Oh my god, we love it, and then 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.680 never cut it. I never even look at it. You know. Dude, 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.480 Tim is a man of his word, and he's very 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.600 he's very good about keeping it too. And he recorded 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.400 the song. He said, and you know one thing that 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.280 I'll never forget my Tim mccrawl telling me was thank 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.760 you for writing me the song I always wanted to record. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:23.120 This was really amazing moment for me. And I didn't 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.360 know that I was being a part of the song 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.079 that he always wanted to record. I just knew that 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.360 he likes, you know, he likes Don Williams type things. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.520 He likes um Guy Clark, he likes you know, old 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.120 stray dogs and guitars play, and he likes Tom t Hall, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.480 you know, those those sorts of things. And it was 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.280 just a really it was a really gratifying moment for me. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.480 Now fast forward, the songs on the radio is doing 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.880 good and and and looking like it maybe that's fantastic, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.240 that's doing great, thank you, but the potential to really 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.680 be a number one hopefully, you know, either either way, 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:57.920 it's it's already a hit, it's already a big top ten. 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.600 But here's the thing, the most part and part of 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.360 this story and the journey is, you know, rewind Up 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.000 told you about Jamie and his mom. Jamie's mom just 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.240 passed away a little a little while back here, right 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.559 about the time how long is he was coming out 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.760 and was about to hit the top twenty, and so 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.280 this is a really trying time for his family. I 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:17.960 know he's I know, he's you know, been going through 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.520 a little bit personally. He's a great guy. And um, 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.840 you know, Jamie at this point being the third co 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.600 writer man at this point, like Jeremy's had a ton 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.440 of number ones. He just wrote I Love Somebody for 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.400 our Boys low Cash. Like he's he's on fire. He 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.560 produces justin MORI mean, he's like all over the board 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.520 and um and thankfully you know, since boat Man, things 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.720 have really been seeming to go my way and and 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.360 Jamie um has had some good cuts to his name, 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.680 but this is his biggest one yet. And with the 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.520 chain of events that everything's happened in his life. That 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.760 just really makes me smile because I'm I'm proud that 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.840 he got ahold of Us. I'm proud that he's a 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.880 third songwriter on this song and that the story. You know, 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.760 if we if we're fortunate up to have a number 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:56.640 one with it, man, it's gonna be an awesome, very 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.320 emotional party. I saw speaking of a girl gonna be 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:01.800 playing with McGraw I think at the end of this 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.480 week or early next week. Yeah, Saturday, Saturday night, we're 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.200 playing in Vegas. Okay. So I just came back from 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:11.600 Vegas and I saw everywhere Tim McGraw and Chris Jansen, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.800 you know, and it was a picture of you. Yeah, 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.080 and I was like, that's cool, you know, because you're everywhere. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.080 Like it's obviously a Tim poster, but very prominent Chris 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.760 Jansen on the poster, which doesn't always happen. Because there 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.200 was another one that was like Toby Keys and the 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:24.960 tiny letters that goes with a big and rich and 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.080 I was like, wait, they're bigger than they should have 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.040 just with bigger. But it was really Tim McGraw with 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:30.880 christ Jansen with you know, you had your picture with 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.720 your trap over and so I'm getting in the elevator. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.520 I was talking about this on the air this morning 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.600 because they had us in a really fancy party MGM. 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.800 Because when you we played MGM the Raging Idiots did 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.400 they put you in a really nice hotel, put us 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.000 in the suite. You're in the fancy place. And I 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.160 got into this elevator and it's all mirrored out and 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.320 like chandelier on top. And I I'm not exaggerated, I 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:52.600 swear to you as I'm in and it kind of 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.760 snapchat at it. As I'm in the elevator at this 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:59.000 fancy hotel, I hear you know there's playing as I'm 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:03.320 going down kidding. No, that's awesome. And they weren't like 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.360 playing just country. It was all different music and they 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:07.800 were playing a hold on hers. I was going to 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:15.760 let's talk about how you got here for a second. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.840 You are born and raids in Missouri. I was born 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.520 and raised in Missouri, just above Arkansas. Are you from you? So? 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.280 As a kid you were what kind of kid? I 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:33.160 was a very shy kid um at times. I boy, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.720 we've never talked about this is gonna be good. I 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.200 I was very shy kid. At times. You know, I 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.080 always was a musician, always a musician. How are you 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.200 a musician at seven? Right? Where were you playing? Man? 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.160 I started when I was eight years old. I got 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.000 my first stratocaster guitar and immediately started playing the blues. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:51.920 And I started playing. My first song I ever learned 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.760 was keep your hands at yourself Georgia Satellites. And I 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.760 love the blues, man, I love the blues. I love 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.480 rock and roll. I loved country music. My first album 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.040 I ever got was Garth Brooks, the one where he 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.760 tied his belt sideways with double double sided shirt. And 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.240 my second one was Randy Travisman. And remember my dad 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.479 used to sing digging up Bones around the house all 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.000 the time and stuff. And I've always been a musician 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:18.680 and I've always been a very musicians at all. And 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.080 the family that kind of maybe say, hey, you should 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.920 pick up a guitar. So my parents are not musicians. Um, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.240 my dad took a swing at drumming there for a 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.399 while when I was like an early teen. Um, but 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.200 he would tell you like it was just a for fun, 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.240 you know, garage band, drink some beer kind of thing. 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:39.639 But um, you know, traditionally, like my My granddad played 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.280 a little guitar, but not much. And his father before 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:48.320 him was a pentecostal uh a tent revival evangelist, uh 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.679 and he played fiddle and that kind of thing. So 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.159 I guess music probably runs in my in my veins 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.400 at some point, very kind of appellation, you know, kind 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.280 of country bluegrass kind of stuff. But there wasn't any 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.199 one in your life that said, here's the piano or 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.479 a guitar, you should start playing. No, no, not at all. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.920 It was me. It's totally me. I wanted, man, dude, 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.200 I wanted to be who did you see though at eight? 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.080 That made you want to pick up a guitar? Because 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:11.959 something had You had to see something with your eyeball 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.040 guns and roses. So that's what I was. Oh my god, 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.240 I was like, I want to be Deaf mccagan, and 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.479 I want to be that you picked up and now 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.280 later on you and we'll get the guns and roses 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.440 in a minute, but later on. But yeah, So it 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.960 wasn't Slash, it wasn't Axel, and it was deaf mcgagan. 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.920 I thought, dude, that do with the with the long 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.359 blonde here. It was like just cool looking. I mean, 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.800