1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode twenty six to the Bobby Cast, 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: and the big big recliner next to me is Chris Jansen. Chris, 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: I'm doing good, brother, Thank you very much. I love 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: your intro music. By the way, Yeah, I don't even 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: know where this came from, Mike, do you it's a 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: game show music. I thought you stole it from Wayne Newton. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: It sounds good. It's not unusual. I was in Vegas 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: this last weekend and we ran into your boys low Cash, 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: because they have played the same stage the night before, yeah, 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: in the National Finals rodeo, and they were playing I 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: think six of like eight nights, all in different places, 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: and so I saw I saw Preston walking around because 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean they were playing every night in Vegas there 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: every single They're like everywhere all the time, man, and 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: they play inn far every year, and You're exactly right. 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: They play like they look a seven day residency in 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: different places. It is just wild. I don't know how 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: they keep up with it, those guys. Preston came because 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: we had pressing up well like four five clods ago 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: may more than that. I talked about you a bit. 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: You guys are close. He's one of my best friends. 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: That's what he said. He said, he said, as far 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: as like Nashville goes, like, you guys have been friends 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: for like close friends, real buddies. We came up together, 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: and there's a difference in real buddies and work friends 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: that you get along with and work well with, and 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: then just the acquaintances at the people you don't like 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: to you know whatever, but you're you're like real friends. Yeah, 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: we're real friends. The weird thing about the Preston when 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: he came over because I like those guys a lot, 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: and Preston and I had only ever spent time together 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: either doing the radio show or we'd we'd be on 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: the road and play We played that thing four shows together, 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots, and we get to hang out there, 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: but we never get to hang out like a real 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: human setting. So we just said at the house and 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: talked for like forty five minutes after after this year, 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, dang, like I really I used 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: to like that dude, Not I really like it because 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: he's a long story dude, Like he's a he's got 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: a lot of wisdom. There's his stories and their story. 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Because we sat here and do the same thing, and 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: they've been around and have been through it all. But 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: you have to. And Christiansen's here and we're gonna start 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: with that in a second. I'm talking about Blue Apron 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: for one second. 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It's 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: but I wasn't moved by yet. Now no smash cut. 66 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: Three weeks later, maybe around that time, I was watching 67 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: it something called New Faces in Nashville this last year, 68 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: and you played this, And when you get a new album, 69 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: you kind of just popped through every track. When you 70 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: get it, you're like, okay, I like that one like that. 71 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: You really don't spend a lot of time with a 72 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: lot of songs, and so you played a Hole in 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Her and I was like, oh my god, that is 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: such a freaking good song. And I was talking to 75 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: your label head, who I really like, to John Esposito, 76 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, if that's not the next song 77 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: you put on the radio, like you shouldn't even put 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: songs out on the radio, Like just just go ahead 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: and Chris back, because that song is so good. And 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: as I look today, holding Her is now at twenty 81 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: five and still and climbing. So so talk about this 82 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: song for a second. Well, first of all, thank you 83 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: for the compliments on it and the kind words. It is. 84 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: You know, well, you know my my backstory of my 85 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: wife and I met kids, and um crs. You mentioned 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: the country radio seminar show, the New Faces thing where 87 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: they there was like five or six artists. The thing was, Man, 88 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: it was just kind of a no brainer moment. And 89 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: for me it's always been a no brainer moment because 90 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: obviously I'm very married to the song, being the writer 91 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: and singer of it. However, it's such a true it's 92 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: a true life event for me and I live at daily. 93 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: And so the fact that it um that it has 94 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to come out, the fact that it 95 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: did come out, and the fact that everyone has embraced 96 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: it as they have and by the way, thank you, Um, 97 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: it's just an incredible blessing to me. Man. And you know, 98 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: there's one thing to be said about songs climbing the charts, 99 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: but when it's climbing the charts in a way that 100 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: is a song that means so much to you personally, 101 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: and I mean on a deeper level than just a 102 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: song that you sing live at your shows and people 103 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: stand up for. Okay, okay, talk about that for a 104 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: second in case people don't know, Uh, why does this 105 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: song mean so much to you? You know, it's it's 106 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: the truest out of all the songs I've ever written, 107 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: it's the most it's the truest. Um. I saw my 108 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: wife for the first time in Nashville at the in 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: an underground pool hall which is is called Melrose billiards 110 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: years ago, and she was um working a job for 111 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: a record label at the time, scoping out songs and songwriters, 112 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: and I was down there hanging out with friends and 113 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: I just fell in love at first time. I really 114 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: did follow love at first sight. And you know, three 115 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: years later we got married, which was amazing, and it 116 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: was just like God's timing is perfect timing. And um, 117 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: I walked into a house that was already a home 118 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: with the kids in it, two kids, and that I 119 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: started calling my bonus kids. It's like, I don't I 120 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: hate the word step kids. And then we had two 121 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: kids together, and really life just became just unbelievable. I mean, 122 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: my life really changed for the better. It was it. 123 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: We've been married seven years agoing on eight, and it's 124 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: just been one of the most incredible blessings ever, aside 125 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: from anything with business or music or anything for that matter. 126 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: And when I wrote this song, James Otto and I 127 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: were on his back porch and um over in Green 128 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Hills in Nashville, and we had just had George, our 129 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: youngest daughter together and our third, our third child, and 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: he said, man, what do you want to write today? 131 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: And I said, dude, I just want to write about 132 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: my family, and and I just it just came out. 133 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: We wrote in about twenty thirty minutes. And you know, 134 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: that song is the oldest song on the Buying Me 135 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: a Boat record, which is what a lot of people 136 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: don't know. It's the is the oldest one on there. 137 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: I wrote it years before Buying Me Vote or anything 138 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: else on the whole album. And um, you know, it's 139 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: finally it finally got to breathe um and live on 140 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: this album. And now that it's living on the radio, 141 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: it's a huge deal for me. And I've been playing 142 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: it around for so many years that now when people 143 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: hear it and then they hear it on the radio, 144 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: it's like they're putting two and two together, going, oh 145 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: my god. You know, it's it's been a lot of 146 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: people's favorite song for a lot of years on the 147 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, from touring and things of that nature. And um, 148 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: since Buying Me a Boat was such a big breakthrough, UM, 149 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: it allowed you know, allowed my audiences to get much bigger, thankfully, 150 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: and now when the year holding there, it's just a 151 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: beautiful thing. The cool thing about it is too, it's 152 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: not a traditional radio song, and the fact that it 153 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: is still climbing the chart does speak volumes because one 154 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: it's a valid yes too, it's a very country ballad 155 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: with talking in it and still guitar and still so 156 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: there are all these elements that right now aren't mixed 157 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: together currently moving up the chart right. Well, thank you 158 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: very much, uh, and thanks for making light of that too, 159 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: because I am such a fan of songs man, like 160 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Sunday Morning coming Down or um. I mean you could 161 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: think of a million songs that have a little any 162 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of Conway song. UM. So many of my favorite 163 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: what you would call now traditional country music, UM has 164 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: has some spoken word in it. Even some George Stray 165 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: records out of the last ten years, you know, I 166 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: mean they have some spoken word in it. And holding 167 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: her I didn't, you know, I didn't really mean to 168 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: go for that. I wasn't like shooting for anything. It 169 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: just happened that way. And um, when it when it 170 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: feels right to me in my heart, man, that's just 171 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: how I fault. That's how I e gage everything. That's 172 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: how I That's how I just do anything in my 173 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: whole life. When I get up to put my boots 174 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: on in the morning, if it feels right, I'll put 175 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: on that pair. If it feels wrong, I put on 176 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: another pair. Um too big, I'm getting their shoes that 177 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: eye buddy, that they're feeling all right, I gotta get 178 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: some sneakers, man. Uh. But you know that's how Holding 179 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: There came together. And and um, this is a beautiful thing, dude. 180 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm so I'm so grateful for it and and 181 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: for people to take a chance on it at radio 182 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: and and to be playing it like they are, I mean, um, 183 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: like you said, for it to still be moving up 184 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: the chart and to be such a different kind of 185 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: song as um, it's pretty incredible blessing. So you have 186 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: actually two songs on the radio right now, one that 187 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: you sing on, one that you wrote on, which is 188 00:08:47,040 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: this one, My girl how Always Be Straight? That's a 189 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: good one, So thanks. Funny When did you write that? 190 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: Was it after the record came out? Was this one 191 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: that you were writing for Tim or writing two pitch 192 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: or for yourself or what what was the process with 193 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: this song. First of all, I love your I love 194 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: these questions, and I really I didn't thank you for 195 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: having me yet the sevening thanks for having me? Probably Hey, Mike, 196 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: you's the first one I ever bring a gift like whoa, 197 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: you can thank my wife. You can thank my wife. 198 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: She had the initial idea, and I said, that's that's 199 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: a great idea because I don't know what to you know, 200 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: you're nothing, there's nothing to get me. You're a man 201 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: of many taste, very peculiar, peculiar taste, just as I am. 202 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: And you know you gotta be you gotta be, you 203 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: gotta be touchy feely with what you get. So I'm 204 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad you liked it. However, thank you for having me, 205 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: and thank you for these questions, because I rarely, I 206 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: want to say, I rarely get to talk about songs, 207 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: and I rarely get to give the back story on them. 208 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: And to answer your question about that's how I'll always be. 209 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: First of all, when you played that, I just love 210 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: that song. Even if I hadn't written it, I'm so 211 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: proud of it. Say you're sitting in a room, I 212 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: gotta tell you this story man, this isn't this is 213 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: an amazing thing. My my friend Jeremy Stover called me. 214 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: He said, Um, hi, se j, let's write a song. 215 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: So okay, fine, So I want never to write with him. 216 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: When I get to a studio on Berry Hill, which 217 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: is over on the other side of Nashville. A friend 218 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: of ours textas bow at the same time, named Jamie Paul. 219 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: He said, hey, man, all, hey guys, you know, um 220 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: can we can I come over and you either of 221 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: you available to write? And we say, hey, we're actually together. 222 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how you knew that, but he didn't. Um, 223 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: once you come join us. He got there. He's kind 224 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: of having a rough day, man. Um. He he got 225 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: there and he started explaining what was going on is 226 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: mom had pretty terminally ill cancer, and um, we it 227 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: just hit everybody pretty hard, to be frankly honest with you, 228 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: and so we just tried to lighten the mood by 229 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: doing something and writing songs is what we do best. So, UM, 230 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: I knew mcgrawl was pretty much done recording at that 231 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: at that point. And UM, thankfully I've been able to 232 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: get to know Tim a little bit and and um, 233 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: here's some inside things. So I thought, well, you know, 234 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: we maybe have missed the record this time, but let's 235 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: just write something. I said, guys, I would like to 236 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: write I'd like to write another side of my story, 237 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: the other side of holding here, like like my backstory 238 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: as a man, you know, and I tell a little 239 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: bit of that. Let's write it in the vein of 240 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: mcgrawl and man, maybe maybe for the next record he 241 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: might like it, you know. And so the song really 242 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: came together and it meant a lot to all three 243 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: of us, but it really meant a lot to me 244 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: personally because Um, all the words in it are my story. 245 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: It's a very true to life song for me, every 246 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: every single little bit of it. And the most important 247 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: part is UM. I sent it to Byron Gallimore like 248 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: three days after we wrote it, and we did a 249 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: little work tape demo of it. He's, oh my gosh, 250 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: I love this. Yeah. Sorry. So Byron Gallimore produces Tim mcgrawl. 251 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: He produced part of the Buy Me a Boat record. 252 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Um is a great friend of mine, and UM a 253 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: great friend of ours, and and just just love Byron 254 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: and Um. He and his wife, they both worked with Tim. 255 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: His wife finds, you know, find songs for Tim every 256 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: now and again, and and Byron produces the songs. You know. 257 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: I sent it to Byron to see what he thought. 258 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: He was like, oh my god. So he sent it 259 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: to Tim and immediately I get put on this email chain. 260 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: It's Tim loves that he's gonna cut it just like 261 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean, days hours. I don't know what we're talking here, 262 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: from the minute you sent the work tape or the 263 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: demo to him to the fact that you're on the 264 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: email going, hey, I love this song. Within within I 265 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: mean within the first fifteen minutes, I was. I was 266 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: that quick swear to god, man, I got it from Jeremy. 267 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: I was like, Herry, get it to me, her, he 268 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: gets to me, Her, get to me. You know. I'm like, 269 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: I'd like a hurry up and wait kind of guy. 270 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: I just can't stand it. Okay, I just have to 271 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: get going. And I can you please send it to 272 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: please send to me. Yeah, I'm just getting the vocal. 273 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: I forget the vocal. Just send me the track. So 274 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: I sent it to Byron. Oh my god, curious, I 275 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: just love this is what Byron said. And uh, and 276 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: so he talks. He got back and sent it to 277 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: Tim within fifteen minutes I was last never forget. I 278 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: was leaving FedEx in Cool Springs, done in Franklin, and 279 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean it just happened. And I mean you never know. 280 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: I mean some I've had a million artists, Oh we're 281 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: gonna cut Oh my god, we love it, and then 282 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: never cut it. I never even look at it. You know. Dude, 283 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: Tim is a man of his word, and he's very 284 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: he's very good about keeping it too. And he recorded 285 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: the song. He said, and you know one thing that 286 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I'll never forget my Tim mccrawl telling me was thank 287 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: you for writing me the song I always wanted to record. 288 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: This was really amazing moment for me. And I didn't 289 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: know that I was being a part of the song 290 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: that he always wanted to record. I just knew that 291 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: he likes, you know, he likes Don Williams type things. 292 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: He likes um Guy Clark, he likes you know, old 293 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: stray dogs and guitars play, and he likes Tom t Hall, 294 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, those those sorts of things. And it was 295 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: just a really it was a really gratifying moment for me. 296 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Now fast forward, the songs on the radio is doing 297 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: good and and and looking like it maybe that's fantastic, 298 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: that's doing great, thank you, but the potential to really 299 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: be a number one hopefully, you know, either either way, 300 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: it's it's already a hit, it's already a big top ten. 301 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, the most part and part of 302 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: this story and the journey is, you know, rewind Up 303 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: told you about Jamie and his mom. Jamie's mom just 304 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: passed away a little a little while back here, right 305 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: about the time how long is he was coming out 306 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: and was about to hit the top twenty, and so 307 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: this is a really trying time for his family. I 308 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: know he's I know, he's you know, been going through 309 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: a little bit personally. He's a great guy. And um, 310 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, Jamie at this point being the third co 311 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: writer man at this point, like Jeremy's had a ton 312 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: of number ones. He just wrote I Love Somebody for 313 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: our Boys low Cash. Like he's he's on fire. He 314 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: produces justin MORI mean, he's like all over the board 315 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: and um and thankfully you know, since boat Man, things 316 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: have really been seeming to go my way and and 317 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: Jamie um has had some good cuts to his name, 318 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: but this is his biggest one yet. And with the 319 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: chain of events that everything's happened in his life. That 320 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: just really makes me smile because I'm I'm proud that 321 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: he got ahold of Us. I'm proud that he's a 322 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: third songwriter on this song and that the story. You know, 323 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: if we if we're fortunate up to have a number 324 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: one with it, man, it's gonna be an awesome, very 325 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: emotional party. I saw speaking of a girl gonna be 326 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: playing with McGraw I think at the end of this 327 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: week or early next week. Yeah, Saturday, Saturday night, we're 328 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: playing in Vegas. Okay. So I just came back from 329 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: Vegas and I saw everywhere Tim McGraw and Chris Jansen, 330 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, and it was a picture of you. Yeah, 331 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's cool, you know, because you're everywhere. 332 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: Like it's obviously a Tim poster, but very prominent Chris 333 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: Jansen on the poster, which doesn't always happen. Because there 334 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: was another one that was like Toby Keys and the 335 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: tiny letters that goes with a big and rich and 336 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, they're bigger than they should have 337 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: just with bigger. But it was really Tim McGraw with 338 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: christ Jansen with you know, you had your picture with 339 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: your trap over and so I'm getting in the elevator. 340 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: I was talking about this on the air this morning 341 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: because they had us in a really fancy party MGM. 342 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: Because when you we played MGM the Raging Idiots did 343 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: they put you in a really nice hotel, put us 344 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: in the suite. You're in the fancy place. And I 345 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: got into this elevator and it's all mirrored out and 346 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: like chandelier on top. And I I'm not exaggerated, I 347 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: swear to you as I'm in and it kind of 348 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: snapchat at it. As I'm in the elevator at this 349 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: fancy hotel, I hear you know there's playing as I'm 350 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: going down kidding. No, that's awesome. And they weren't like 351 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: playing just country. It was all different music and they 352 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: were playing a hold on hers. I was going to 353 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: let's talk about how you got here for a second. 354 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: You are born and raids in Missouri. I was born 355 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: and raised in Missouri, just above Arkansas. Are you from you? So? 356 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: As a kid you were what kind of kid? I 357 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: was a very shy kid um at times. I boy, 358 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: we've never talked about this is gonna be good. I 359 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I was very shy kid. At times. You know, I 360 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: always was a musician, always a musician. How are you 361 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: a musician at seven? Right? Where were you playing? Man? 362 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: I started when I was eight years old. I got 363 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: my first stratocaster guitar and immediately started playing the blues. 364 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: And I started playing. My first song I ever learned 365 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: was keep your hands at yourself Georgia Satellites. And I 366 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: love the blues, man, I love the blues. I love 367 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: rock and roll. I loved country music. My first album 368 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: I ever got was Garth Brooks, the one where he 369 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: tied his belt sideways with double double sided shirt. And 370 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: my second one was Randy Travisman. And remember my dad 371 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: used to sing digging up Bones around the house all 372 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: the time and stuff. And I've always been a musician 373 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: and I've always been a very musicians at all. And 374 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: the family that kind of maybe say, hey, you should 375 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: pick up a guitar. So my parents are not musicians. Um, 376 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: my dad took a swing at drumming there for a 377 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: while when I was like an early teen. Um, but 378 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: he would tell you like it was just a for fun, 379 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, garage band, drink some beer kind of thing. 380 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: But um, you know, traditionally, like my My granddad played 381 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: a little guitar, but not much. And his father before 382 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: him was a pentecostal uh a tent revival evangelist, uh 383 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: and he played fiddle and that kind of thing. So 384 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: I guess music probably runs in my in my veins 385 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: at some point, very kind of appellation, you know, kind 386 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: of country bluegrass kind of stuff. But there wasn't any 387 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: one in your life that said, here's the piano or 388 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: a guitar, you should start playing. No, no, not at all. 389 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: It was me. It's totally me. I wanted, man, dude, 390 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to be who did you see though at eight? 391 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: That made you want to pick up a guitar? Because 392 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: something had You had to see something with your eyeball 393 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: guns and roses. So that's what I was. Oh my god, 394 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be Deaf mccagan, and 395 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: I want to be that you picked up and now 396 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: later on you and we'll get the guns and roses 397 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: in a minute, but later on. But yeah, So it 398 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: wasn't Slash, it wasn't Axel, and it was deaf mcgagan. 399 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: I thought, dude, that do with the with the long 400 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: blonde here. It was like just cool looking. I mean, 401 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: and he is cool looking. It's like I want to 402 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: be that. I want to be that right there. And 403 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: I always thought David Lee Murphy was the bomb, Like 404 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean where I come from. I mean, first of all, 405 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: he is and everybody thinks so. Second of all, where 406 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: I come from in the Midwest. You know, we grew 407 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: up right across the Missisip River from each other. Literally. 408 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: I bought my first car with lawn mowing money out 409 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: of his hometown, two blocks away from the street. He 410 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: grew up on small world. I was a huge David 411 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: Lee Murphy fan as far as country music goes. And 412 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: he was, you know, he's still like, he's kind of 413 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: a rock and roll type, jeans wearing kind of guy. 414 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: And um, so those two things made me really want 415 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: to play man and funny you should ask. I've never 416 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: got to tell anybody that. So you start playing guitar 417 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: at eight years old, when do you start playing where 418 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: people start watching you? Pretty immediately when I started playing, um, 419 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, that was right at the brink of about 420 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: to go into middle school. So you know, I was 421 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: a skateboarder, and I was also in four h and 422 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: I was riding horses. I did a lot of different things, 423 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: as I could die with a lot of stuff, but 424 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: I loved the skateboarding, the skateboarding community, as most no 425 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: will lead you into, like different kinds of communities will 426 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: lead you, like into the hippie crowd and the cool crowd, 427 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: and you know the maybe the um the misled youth 428 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: crowd who listens to punk rock all the time. And 429 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: I got way into that kind of stuff. And um, 430 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: I started meeting buddies who thought like me, who thought 431 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: outside the box, who grew up in a small town 432 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: and wanted to get out of it, and and um 433 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: found outlets in music, and so we all just started 434 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: skating together and we built like a local skate park 435 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: in in Felts Park in town. And man, we we 436 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: started getting our instruments from Shivelvin's Music, which was a 437 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: town thirty five miles away in Cape Girardo. Was a 438 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: little music store there, and m dude, we we just 439 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: got the cheapest of the cheap guitars and started playing. 440 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: And me and my buddy Kurt Brewer and um uh 441 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: Anthony Lawrencius and all these kids. Man, we just got 442 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: together from all different grades, middle school and high school 443 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: and started playing music and we play anything anybody wanted 444 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: to hear. What were you in that band that was 445 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: the drummer? Wow? Yeah, so you picked up a guitar, 446 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: then you were the drummer in the band. Yeah. I 447 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: was like the drummer one week, and then like if 448 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: if we needed a bass player, I would be like 449 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: bass player. I mean, he's whatever. I mean, we all 450 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: kind of alternated, however. Um, you know, my first instrument 451 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: is drums. I learned that very first, and then guitar 452 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: came like the week after. I forgot to tell you that. 453 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: But I'm a drummer first, and I'm still a drummer. 454 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: I played drums every night actively in my live concerts, 455 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: And um, I am the kind of person that I'm 456 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna try it really quick, and if i can't get 457 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: it really quick, I'm done. I'm just gonna move on 458 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: to something else. I'm still that way. Your hitching right, small? 459 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: Why both of us are Yeah, we know, we're very like, 460 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: we need it. We gotta figure Okay, the only have 461 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: the same birthday we do. Yeah, so, I mean it's 462 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities. We addictive personalities, but exactly exactly, 463 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm back on the dude, by the way, so no man, 464 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: so like I wanted to play the drums, right, let 465 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: me just tell you. So I learned to play them. 466 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: I learned to play him in school and I was like, okay, cool. 467 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: Then I got the stratocaster guitar. I learned to play 468 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: George Satellite was like, I got that. So I got 469 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: a basic Carl. I'm like, well that's pretty easy, the 470 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: same thing. And I got on piano, and I love 471 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: Jarreley Lewis. I'm like, and I figured that out. Okay. 472 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: I taught myself and m dude, I just started hop 473 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: skipping around and then you meet the right kids. And 474 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: it was usually kids who were like unpopular, kids who 475 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: nobody wanted to hang out with. Kids were like green 476 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: hair and weird ear rings. And I mean, I grew 477 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: up in a pretty like Frankly, a pretty redneck, you know, 478 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: white trash, blue collar town man like you just if 479 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: you're not a farmer, you're not cool, you know that 480 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Like everybody hangs out the m f 481 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: A and city tavern downtown and that's just the way 482 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: it is. And if you don't play football, you're a 483 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: punk and that kind of deal. And I was definitely 484 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: kind of right in the middle. So you're playing music. 485 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: Did you graduate high school? I did? I graduated with 486 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: honors man. I graduated. Um I actually got I was 487 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: actually offered to graduate my junior year. UM, I know, 488 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: you got a scholl. I'm gonna leading to the scholarship 489 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: with college credits and stuff. But I chose to stay 490 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: in school because my senior year they offered a work 491 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: program where it could actually make some a little bit 492 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: of cash and and go to work and try something 493 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: that I thought maybe I would want to do for 494 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: a living. Because when you're a kid, you don't think 495 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: you honestly, where I come from, you don't really think that, 496 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, I can be a music singing star 497 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: or anything for that matter. I can't even have a 498 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: job doing this. You know, you know why. And we 499 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: come from a similar background. You don't think that's not 500 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: because people tell us we can, but no one tells 501 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: us we can, because nobody else does around Because that 502 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: you're precisely right, like, nobody tells you you can't, but 503 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: no one tells you can because no one else is 504 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: doing it. And we come from and and you know what, 505 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: it's okay because now as an adult, I come to 506 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it. And actually, you know, some things you kind 507 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: of missed sometimes weird. But I grew up in such 508 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: a inside the box kind of mindset I'm sort of 509 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: cursed with. I'm still still that way a little bit. 510 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: The just things you never grow out of. But I 511 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: grew up so much around that that it was just 512 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: kind of unreachable. You know. You know when you say that, 513 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: it resonates with me because I speak at times, and 514 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: i'll speak at graduations or i'll speak to youth and 515 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: and I'll say that a lot, because I'll talk to 516 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: kids who grew up like I did, and I'll say, 517 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: you know, these big dreams, no one tells you you 518 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: really can't do them because they don't seem real. No 519 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: one tells you you can't grow ten feet tall, right 520 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: because everybody knows you're not gonna do it anyway, right, 521 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: But no one. So I would say, listen, this is 522 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: what I've done. No one told me I couldn't, but really, 523 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: no one told me I can. And so I'll talk 524 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: to the say tell them they can, you know, but 525 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: they I mean, look at you, Look at you. You're 526 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: a prime example of nobody telling you you can, but 527 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: you just went and did. Yeah, I I know one 528 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: other kid who did it in my hometown. Man, it 529 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: was the one kid that I consistently stayed in bands with. 530 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: It was also the one kid that I consistently stayed 531 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: in bands and budded heads with because we were both 532 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: a personalities, which now we we even still keep in 533 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: touch via email and phone. Actually two of my friend 534 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: I can't forget the other one one move to one. 535 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: One stayed in the States and went on having a 536 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: great career playing drums for the Aavoite Brothers and Bob 537 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: Dylan and lots of people. Okay, his named Jacob Edwards. 538 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: His dad was our band His dad was our choir teacher. 539 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: We had choir teacher and a band teacher in high school. 540 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: My music teacher band teacher flunked me and did not 541 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: like me at all and treated me very badly as 542 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: a kid, very bad. I think that for many years. 543 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't mean this to sound cocky whatsoever, but I 544 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: was a natural music and people like him aren't. They 545 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: are theoretical. They have to read. They like to be cocky. 546 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: For you to say you're a natural at music, you're 547 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: a freaking number one song, right, but you know what 548 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean. But but I don't. I don't mean it pretentious. 549 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: It's not. But nothing about it was pretentious, thank you. 550 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: But but for people who you know, don't know me, 551 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: I'd like to let him know I don't mean that pretentious. 552 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: But but Mr Fisher was not nice to me. He 553 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: was just not He just wasn't nice to me. He 554 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: probably he did, and that's a sad thing. In school, man, 555 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot of teachers, you know, they probably got picked 556 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: on at one point. They're really you know, he's a 557 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: very smart guy. However may be a little bit smarter. 558 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. But the thing is is I flunked that, 559 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: but I got an a in chorus which I didn't 560 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: want to take. And it was Mr Edwards. His son, 561 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: Jacob is the one I was in the band with. Man, 562 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: he was a free spirit. He was just about just 563 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: do what you want to do and and we're just 564 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna praise your art no matter how bad or good 565 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: it is, doesn't matter. And believe me, we're pretty bad, okay, 566 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: and um Jacob was one of the kids who who 567 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: came out of school and did something with his life. 568 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: As far as music and became very successful, and I 569 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: think lives in East Nahville now. And another one of 570 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: my friends who grew up two towns away, and he 571 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: grew up in an even smaller, like very Catholic community 572 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: where you were very frowned upon if you did any 573 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: kind of music or rock and roll or anything of 574 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: that nature, uh Ian Fisher. And now he's a very 575 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: critically acclaimed singer songwriter in in Europe and and lives 576 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: in Germany and just in his awesome that's what he does. 577 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: He travels around Europe and place shows and it's just 578 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: a pretty amazing thing. Man. I feel very blessed to 579 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: have the opportunities that I've had. And when you mentioned 580 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: number one songwriter and singer and these things, it still 581 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: doesn't register for me because again, and you know this, 582 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: coming from where we come from, your great successes with 583 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: your career as well, it's just sort of unfathomable. And 584 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: even even now in my hometown, I only have about 585 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: five friends who even recognize what I do for a living, 586 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: or they just don't even you know what I mean, 587 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: it just doesn't It's just a it's a two way 588 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: road and it's very disconnected. So you're in the town. Now, 589 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: you had an interest in animals like veterinary. I did. 590 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: Now I got the interest from animals and veterinary because 591 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: I told you earlier I was. I rode a lot 592 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: of horses as a kid. I did horse showing, a 593 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: whole bunch actually a lot of Middle Tennessee, which is 594 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: a whole other avenue to talk about. But long story short. 595 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: When you get older and you get about seventeen, and 596 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: you know you're pretty poor kid growing up, you gotta 597 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: have a job. I have. I've had jobs since I 598 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: was a young man. My dad said, I don't ever 599 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: want to have to make you work. You know you 600 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: work when you get older. But I always had a 601 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: job because I never like anybody telling me what I 602 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: could do with my money, and I don't like asking 603 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: for money. Is I'd rather make it myself, whether it's 604 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: if it's two bucks. I got two bucks and not 605 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: in that asked Ford. Veterinarian work came pretty easy. There 606 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: was a guy that played softball with my dad on 607 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: the little softball leagues there and and um doc and 608 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: and Doc Freeman. And he always said, man, if you 609 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: ever want to make some extra bank, once you just 610 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: come over and work for me, you know, and just 611 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: do whatever. He's a the only like the town, the 612 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: town main, the main guy, the guy, there's always the 613 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: whatever where we come from, there's one. There's one person 614 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: that does everything. Because we can't handle too. We didn't met. 615 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: We could have two gas stations, and we're gonna have to. Man, 616 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. It's like, you know what I'm saying, 617 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: They're both gonna run from mayor to let go bigger anyway. 618 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: So Doc Freeman offered that, and so in my school too, 619 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: even though small town, they had a vocational program because 620 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: against so many kids grew up in the agricultural business 621 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. And traditionally you either go 622 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: to the military, you become a farmer pretty much it, 623 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: or you work at Walmart. It's one of three things. 624 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: And um, my senior year, I'd already gotten all my 625 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: credits out of the way, so I thought, cool, I'm 626 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: gonna take a vocational class and I'm gonna take him 627 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: up on it. So I went to work at a 628 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: vet clinic and I've darned near almost became a veterinarian. 629 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: Like I was pretty serious about it. And the fact 630 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: that like I was pulling scholarships to almost go to 631 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: do it, and uh, I just kept you from it. 632 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: I never had it in my heart. Man, I was 633 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: just doing it too to make some money, and I 634 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: knew that it would probably pay good at some point. 635 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: You know, if you become a doctor or a tarium, 636 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: obviously it pays okay, Um, dude, I played music. I've 637 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: always played music, no matter what I mean. On the weekends, 638 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: I was playing on hay wagons in in on eighty 639 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: Acres down and on the East End, and for you know, um, 640 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: just a bunch of beer drinking hank junior songs and 641 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: skinnered covers and those kind of things, and I just 642 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: had music in my heart. I've never written a song 643 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: at that point, but I loved playing and whatever band 644 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: I was in at the time. So when it got 645 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: right down to it, about a week before I was 646 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: going to go off to college, I decided, well, I'm 647 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: not gonna do that, So I'm just gonna go to 648 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: the closest place that has music. And I wanted to 649 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: get away from you know, you always want to get 650 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: away from where you come from, and then when you 651 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: get out, you want to have some of that back, 652 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: which is interesting because I'd love I love small town lifestyles. 653 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: My wife from a small town. I you know, I 654 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: love it, um, But Nashville was the closest. So I 655 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: packed up on I decided on a Thursday, and packed 656 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: up on Thursday afternoon, and I moved never came back. 657 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: So you moved to Nashville. You're out old, I was. 658 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: I just turned nineteen, So you move here at nineteen? 659 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: And where do you move? I'm moving a two door 660 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: Monty Carlo that you can um the folks can see. 661 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: You know that that We talked about that country radio 662 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: seminar show that I did. We did the video for it, 663 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: and I put the Green Money Carlo in my video, 664 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: like kind of a lifestyle. Lived in the car. I 665 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: lived in the back seat of a car with the 666 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: back seats would fold down, you know in those cars. 667 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: They don't make cars like that anymore. It's really cool 668 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: thing because safe, because I'm glad they don't make They 669 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: made sense back then there's more room. But we used 670 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: to stand in the seat. I have written on so 671 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: many consoles of bills with my head sticking out the 672 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: old school sun roof. You know what I'm talking about 673 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: we'd run the back of the truck like you can't. 674 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: All that's gone, dude, lay in the ever lay in 675 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: the back of the ever lay to get to get 676 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: warm in the back window of like a cutlass. Yes, 677 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: and on the on the like the reverse console because 678 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: that's where the heat comes that when the window comes 679 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: down in that spot. Yeah. You ever travel like nine 680 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: hours on the camper shell on the back of the 681 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: truck because with blankets. Yeah, yeah, that was a road trip. 682 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: It was getting the truck and they're like five of 683 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: us getting the campers shell in the back of the 684 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: truck with blankets, with the grandpa who's like um, kind 685 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: of mean and and only makes sweet hands to ham 686 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 1: sandwiches and will not pull over at Cracker Borow. I mean, 687 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying that in a very nice way. By the way, say, 688 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: moved in Nashville. You're living in your car. I'm living 689 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: in the tudor money Carlo. How do you find a 690 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: place the park? I mean, like, what do you park 691 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: to live? Okay, here's a good one for you. So 692 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: I pulled downtown and I pulled what's now Hockeytunk Central 693 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: on Lower Broadway in Nashville. Used to be Shaunicky as 694 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: Irish Pub, which was before my time here. I pulled 695 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: into the parking lot back there, and this is still 696 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: when Lower Broadway is kind of like undeveloped. It's you know, 697 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: it's still kind of dangerous at night, that kind of thing. 698 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: And um, so those listening. Lower Broadway is the main 699 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: like tourists place in Nashville work. All the cars are 700 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: where people come and they go to see all the 701 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: music and where a lot of people go frankly to 702 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: to try and quote make it, you know, and so 703 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 1: um it's just the bright lights and big city kind 704 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: of thing. So I pulled there. I got a boot 705 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: on my car the first night because I had never 706 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: paid a meter. I have never paid a machine to 707 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: get a ticket out. I know, I mean, who would 708 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: know coming from I wrote a boy that in my 709 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: book that I was like when I moved to Little 710 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: Rock and need to pay for parking, he was blown away, 711 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: blown You had to pay to put your car. It 712 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: was a shot. It was a shock that I had 713 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: to pay to put my car somewhere. Believe me, I know, 714 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: I got a boot the first night, So I'm like, wow, 715 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: this is awesome. So but anyway, dude, I'm I'm sleeping 716 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: in the fold down so half in the trunk, half 717 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: in the car kind of thing. And uh, I literally 718 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: moved to her quintessential story with the back a physical 719 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: backpack full of CDs homemade, you know, just basically what 720 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: you would call now garage band demos, UM that were 721 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: really made in a garage on a two track dub 722 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: recorder and UM transferred over to CD with a sticky 723 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: on top, you know. And so I came there and 724 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: I was just basically busting up down Lower Broadway with 725 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: a guitar case totally Abacrombie to out Birkenstocks, the whole deal, 726 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: and UM asking for gigs. And I'll never forget I 727 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: walked into I walked into Twosies, like at ten o'clock 728 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: in the morning, and UM, the bartender was like. I 729 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm here for a gig. I thought 730 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: they were going to hand him out. Like I could 731 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: go to my hometown somewhere and just find a gig 732 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: at a local pub or restaurant, you know which would 733 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: you could do pretty easy? And UM, I'll never forget 734 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: this bartender named Susan. I'll never forget it. She look 735 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: me around the eyes, laughed in my face, and because 736 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: used to get the hell out of here. You're never 737 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna make it here ever, never gonna make it. Just 738 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: get out of here because of how you look, I 739 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: think because of how I looked. I was so young. 740 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and believe me, a nineteen, I looked like 741 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: I was twelve. So it was like you put two 742 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: and two together. It was a weird thing. So I left, 743 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: and I'm going up down the street and I'm asking 744 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: dog on stage, and nobody let me on stage. Did 745 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: you ever play on the street? No, I was. I 746 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: just never wanted to go there. Man, I never wanted 747 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: to go there. I I just figured this, if I 748 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: if I'm not good enough to get into the bar, 749 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: if I can't get in there to sing, which at 750 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: that point to me was like, holy cow, I'm making it. 751 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: You're singing in Nashville. I mean, people are in Nashville 752 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: watching I'm famous, like it's happening. It's like that's the feeling. 753 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: You get your right. So I go back that night 754 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: and I finally get I begged doorman to get me 755 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: on stage. It puts me on stage was so nice. 756 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: It was like midnight, puts me on stage and do 757 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: you wanna hear something crazy? If I moved here? CRS week. 758 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: So CRS is when all country radio comes to town 759 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: and the artists are in town and there every labels. 760 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really busy radio. E we yeah. 761 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: So when a long story short, he puts me on stage. 762 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: I played fulsome Prison Johnny Cash and I started the 763 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: song out. In the course of the band, I was 764 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: wondering where they were looking at me and rolling rasgun, 765 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, because they've already played it twenty times 766 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: that day, starting at ten o'clock in the morning. It's 767 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: about midnight, it's two hours left play the song. Crowd 768 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: goes wild, the owners in the bar. Dude re leads 769 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: over the countercats, can you finish two more hours? I 770 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: said that night right then I said yes I can. 771 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: So he looks at the other dude I swear to 772 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: this is swear to God, looks at the other dude 773 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: who was singing. I just let me up on stage. 774 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: He goes, you're fired, go ahead, and I was like, okay. 775 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: So I played two more hours worth of just anything 776 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: I could think of. Hank Williams just call him out. 777 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: To the bantelm like key, I mean literally just start 778 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: songs and they would just do it, you know. And 779 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: so that was my intro to Nashville. And I got 780 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: done about two thirty in the morning. The next morning, 781 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: I had a gig. They asked me, right or I 782 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: got done? Said can you be here in the morning 783 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: to play? You want a gig? You want a gig? 784 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, ten o'clock in the morning, said ten o'clock. 785 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: Who plays at ten o'clock in the morning. I mean, 786 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: what are you talking about. Well, there's like They're like, well, 787 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: that's what time the honky Talk's open down here, and 788 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: if you want a gig, yes or no? I said absolutely. 789 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: So I came in, I played acoustic, and then I 790 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: got done with that one. It was a four hour show. 791 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: I got done with that one. The same thing. Dude 792 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: was like, hey man, we had a two o'clock actually 793 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: cancel you want to play the two six? Go put 794 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: a band together. So I go on. By the way, 795 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: my car is still booted sitting in the parking lot. Okay, 796 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: never moved. I never really left. Okay, And plus I 797 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: don't know what to do with the boot And plus 798 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a gig, and he's just trying 799 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: to make it go put a band together, had like 800 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, so I just started gathering people off the street, 801 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: just people walking down with amps and guitars, asking, Hey, 802 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: what do you play? I swear to there's so many 803 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: musicians down there anyway, still are I mean, there's you 804 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: go down there right now in Nashville. There'll be fifty 805 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: guys walking into different bars and coming out of bars 806 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: with pedal carts full of nice instruments and things. Okay, 807 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: drums or whatever. So I put a little band together 808 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: and I played the two to six, same thing for 809 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: the six to ten. They go want to go to 810 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: the back room with toot season and play the sixth tons? Okay, fine, 811 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: Now keep in mind I started at ten o'clock that morning, 812 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: so then I played the six to ten, and then 813 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: I got the ten to two that night. So I 814 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: played sixteen hours in one day and never left the bar. 815 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: And I did that continuously for three sixty four more 816 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: days and until I got discovered for the first time. 817 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: So he played a whole year. Yeah, I did sixteen 818 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: hours a day. Now, what did you finally get a roof? Though, Okay, 819 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: so I got a roof. Um, I was crashing in 820 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: the car man for pretty good little bit there, and 821 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: and of course what's a little bit three or four 822 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: weeks and you know, almost a solid month living in 823 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: your car. Yeah, but you know you meet people too, 824 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: and you know I'm talking about from bar backs, you know, 825 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: just some nice dude slinging slinging cases of beer or 826 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: doormantor just whoever. H Tyler Farr Um, the the the 827 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: guy who owned the bar's son, you know, who was 828 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: a college kid at the time, you know, and you 829 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta have showers and stuff, of course, 830 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: So I mean you crash the couch two or three 831 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: times a week, maybe here and there, but most of 832 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: the time, I mean I'm living very much living out 833 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: of the car. And then about a month into it, 834 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: I was able to, you know, get my own apartment, 835 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: which I shared with uh a doorman actually, the guy 836 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: who first put me up on stage. Um Tyler farr 837 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: was also crashing couches and doing that kind of thing 838 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: and kind of jumping from apartment department, so he would 839 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: sleep at our place a lot. And um, you know, 840 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: pay a little rent every now and again. That kind 841 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: of thing and just you just make it. And I 842 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: my first place was over in Antioch. Did you ever 843 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if it's you. Did you ever sleep on 844 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: the lower level on the floor of Eric Passley's wife's house. 845 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: Was it that Jansen? Who wasn't the just staying in past? 846 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah it was Natalie, but it wasn't. It wasn't Jansen, 847 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: not this guy. Maybe it was still it was one 848 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: of the stow man because there are a bunch of 849 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: guys you just hused to migrate around. Oh dude, I 850 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: lived in Antioch over off of Levin And Road, and um, 851 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: right on the back of the roadroad tracks, pretty shady, 852 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: pretty shady. Appreciate you set. I'm not gonna lie shady 853 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: means though, Uh yeah, it was pretty awesome. But I 854 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: was like, there's a lot of money and you know 855 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But hey, you know the deal is, man, 856 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: you just do what you can. And and before I 857 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: moved to Nashville, Um, I saved every penny I could 858 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: to mowing lawns, selling snowk on that little snow cone 859 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: business going on. That was a pretty entrepreneurial guy. And um, 860 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: you know one thing and the other in gigs and 861 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And I'm not talking like big money. 862 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking like maybe twenty five bucks a show kind 863 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: of deal, or you know, twenty bucks a night on snowcones. 864 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: But I moved here with a little bit of cash 865 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: in my pocket and uh and that sort of thing, 866 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: and just made it from the made it from nothing. 867 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: He started from the bottom. We're gonna play a spot 868 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: here one of our sponsors with Chris Jansen right now. 869 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: Looking for the perfect gift this season. Want to avoid 870 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: the malls and lines this year. 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Um, 891 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: First of all, I was packing it out like like 892 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: like they say, nobody else ever has was the fire 893 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: marshal shut us down all through the year, all the 894 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: time when I would play that kind of thing. And 895 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: and it's you know, certain times more than others. But um, 896 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: music business is what I mean by being discovered. People 897 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: from the industry, you know, A and R executives, label presidents, publishers, 898 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: booking agents, those kind of things. Um, My first real 899 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: break came from a movie director named Jonathan Demi, who 900 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: um you know, did hard of Gold for Neil Young 901 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: and UM stopped making sense. I think he just did 902 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: the timber Lake thing too. Um, But anyway, he came 903 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: in and was spot checking the rhyman until he'son just 904 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: kind of downtown just Nashville as a total vibe for 905 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: the Heart of Gold documentary on Neil Young and saw 906 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: me playing and um and was like, Okay, I think 907 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: you might be great for this documentary, you know, and 908 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: wanted to cast me in it. And that was kind 909 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: of my intro to um a little bit of success 910 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: and maybe perhaps my first paycheck, which ended up being 911 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: my first paycheck. Neil Young caught his attention and they 912 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: put me in the documentary a small part, but a 913 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: part nonetheless. And after that that really, you know, really 914 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: sparked a lot of talk because I was just some 915 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: kid in Laura Broadway and not at the time nineteen 916 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: my first year. Yeah, and um, not to mention. Then 917 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, then everybody started flooding in from the industry. 918 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't just fans and things like that. They were 919 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: coming amongst the fans and I'm talking about, um, just 920 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: anybody who's anybody man and you being scotted by the 921 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: whole town yeah, I didn't know it though I would 922 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: had no clue. I had no I would. I would 923 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: have no problem sending a tip jar around to whoever 924 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: might have been at the time. So you say you 925 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 1: didn't get a pay cheke, you were getting paid in tips, 926 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: tips only only tips, And so you'd play. If someone 927 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: gave you a twenty, that was a big one huge. 928 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: You play whatever they want? Do you play anything for 929 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: I played something for a dollar. Gives you a twenty? 930 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: They jumped the line, it's a big deal. May give 931 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: you a hundred. Dude. People used to flood my I 932 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: mean we made like bucks one night, one night, okay, 933 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: So how do you split that up? If you're the 934 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: main guy, and really the main guy not coming to 935 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: watch the basis although he is doing his work, I'm 936 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: the dude, right, okay, or whoever, for that matter, is 937 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: the dude or the chick. Okay. When it's lower Broadway style, bro, 938 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: it's mono, I mono. It is. Every man is equal, 939 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: no matter what. That's just how they look at it 940 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: down there, and it's just it's just the way it is. 941 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: So when you're tip jarring it, you just split it. 942 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: You know, if there's four people there, so you made night? 943 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: Was there a super corporate vend or something they happened 944 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: at night? Like? No, No, do you think special about 945 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: who it was? Did it know? I just used to hustle, man, 946 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: I used to hustle. I still hustle. I am a hustler. 947 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: Like I know that sounds so good over I am Like, 948 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: I am a hustler, dude. I don't come from anything. 949 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: I come from like I come from parents who worked 950 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: really hard and and did ok care for themselves. But um, 951 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, man, I just never 952 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: forget being told one time, son, I don't have it 953 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: to give to you. And I said, from that moment on, 954 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: I will never live like this. I just I won't. 955 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: And that's not meaning I'm not meaning dirt floor is 956 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: a poor by any means. I'm just saying not extra 957 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: to go around. And uh, I just said right then, 958 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna live this way. I'm gonna hustle 959 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: and do whatever I have to do to make money. 960 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: And when you're playing out of a tip jar, you 961 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: damn sure have to hustle. You have to learn to 962 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,479 Speaker 1: make it because, believe me, if you have five people 963 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: in there, from ten o'clock in the morning to ten 964 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: o'clock at night. You know, any people, that is five people. 965 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: And then by the way, you got to give a 966 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: tip share to bartenders, tips shared a doorman and you're 967 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: not making much money, so you have to be good 968 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: number one. You have to know your repertoire. Number two 969 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: and you have to be able to sing anything, and 970 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: I mean anything, because if you don't, they'll go right 971 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: next door to the next bar and find some other 972 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: guy who is as you're doing this, and you're playing 973 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: tutsis for a year and listen, I waited tables for 974 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: a year, so I know. And it's definitely not the same. 975 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: But there's a culture, there's a night there's a nighttime culture, 976 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: and it's a different lifestyle. Yes, Now, were you ever 977 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: caught up in that lifestyle with any of the alcohol 978 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: the drug use, because it's it's crazy. I mean I 979 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: watched I had to stay away from it because I 980 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: knew what I would do. I'd go right into it 981 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: and I would kill myself. Yeah, well, thanks for asking. Um. 982 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: I never had a drink until it's twenty two and 983 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: I've never done a drug in my life ever, not 984 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: not ever, once never even smoked the pot. The pot. 985 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: That's funny we have because I haven't. We have so 986 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: much in comment. You know, it's okay, I haven't drinking 987 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: eight years. I'm thirty now twenty two. So did you 988 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: just drink for a minute. I did, And that's how 989 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: I see you doing Like I don't see you doing 990 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: anything happen No, no, no, no, no no. The last 991 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: date we had, but by the way, my wife and 992 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: I still did. We're gonna date tonight. Here's the thing 993 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: before we're married. The last day we had official one. 994 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm like sixteen long necks in I mean, like, I 995 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: go hard when I drink. Man, it's like, if you're 996 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna drink, dude, get drunk. If not, just what is 997 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: the point? Okay? So I've never had a drink and 998 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: it's and it feels like it tastes it smells like 999 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: just piss. Oh god, I just hate Like, why would 1000 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: I drink if I didn't just want to get hammered? Honestly? 1001 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: Why would I? Honestly, dude, I never had a drink. 1002 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: I was twenty two, you believe that. And when I did, 1003 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I let me get it so much. 1004 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: I stopped because I met the love of my life 1005 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: that I wanted to be completely committed to and um, 1006 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: she had kids. Did you do as I do and 1007 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: just go okay at the stop right now? Full? But 1008 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: don dun, don't. I haven't had a drink since crazy. 1009 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: I'm thirty years old. Crazy done. I try. I I 1010 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: take that back. I'm not. I don't want to lie. 1011 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: I forgot this though. I did drink one time, one 1012 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: time in the last what is eight or nine years? Okay, 1013 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: what was the occasion. The occasion was I was opening 1014 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: up for Darryl Singletary in the middle of nowhere in 1015 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: upstate New York and there was nothing else to do 1016 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: than just get hammered. And my wife was like, it's 1017 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: okay to have like a glass of wine. I'm like no, no, no, no, no, 1018 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: just keep on straight now. She's like, no, that's cool, 1019 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: it's cool. And then my guitar player at the time, 1020 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: it's a great guy with a bad influence, he goes, h, 1021 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: I dare you drink or try to out drink me? 1022 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, it's on, that's all. I tas 1023 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: my feet right now, my feet right now. Actually, I mean, 1024 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: if you're hurting men or whatever. I look, look, look, 1025 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable moan skin. But here's the deal. But dudes, 1026 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 1: but I'm not that way anymore. But um, that's what 1027 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: I wrote. You know, we wrote better. I don't about 1028 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But the long story short, man, I 1029 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: was getting so hammered. I mean I was so hammered. 1030 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, away from Kelly, I was playing 1031 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: horse shoes and corn hole in the back. And if 1032 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, Darrel Singletary first of all, great guy and 1033 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: had had big hits, you know, and one of his 1034 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: sounds was I ain't never had too much fun. And 1035 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: I was thinking these corn holes and I was like, 1036 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: you never had that much fun? Happy Darrel? Whoa? I mean, 1037 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: I was turning into like such a smarty pants. So 1038 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: it's a good thing that i don't drink, man. But 1039 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: other than that, I'm completely sober, and I've never touched 1040 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: a drug. Man I would. I'm just not that guy. 1041 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 1: I love cigars. I smoked cigars all the time. I 1042 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: had two cigars for it before we got on this podcast. 1043 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: But I just I don't. I don't smoke cigarettes. I'm 1044 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: allergic to him. Actually, Um, whatever is in a cigarette 1045 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm allergic to not a cigar, though I can smoke 1046 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: them all day and I'm fine, I guess because you 1047 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: don't inhale them. But I've never never touched a drug. 1048 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: You don't help. I don't know about the Guards. You 1049 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: don't have a healthigars? Well, I mean, I guess some 1050 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: people do with the real hardcore, But I mean, that's 1051 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: that's that's not the thing that I just thought it 1052 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: was a bigger I go, what do I know about 1053 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: the Guards? That was a bigger cigarette? No? No, I 1054 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: think it's just for me. I mean from what I 1055 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: know and the people I know who've smoked them, it's 1056 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 1: just kind of a conversation piece and you just kind 1057 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: of puff on them a little bit, enjoy the aroma. 1058 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I That's the only thing 1059 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: I do with them. Dude, you sort a cigar? Right? 1060 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: I haven't eye that. Yeah, I thought they were just 1061 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: like big what do I I don't know anybody. Do 1062 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: you know? The first thing that the song I've heard 1063 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 1: from you was better I Don't move to Town? And 1064 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: I was like, what is this song better? I don't 1065 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: what's funny? I heard the song, and so I come 1066 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: to down and it's a whole to do because for me, 1067 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: I was the first ever nationally syndicated country morning show, 1068 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: and it was, you know, just crazy from the people 1069 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: that were excited to people that weren't excited, all of 1070 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: these mixed basket of emotions. And I hear the song 1071 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this guy's nuts. Like I 1072 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: just love that. I was like, this guy's this. So 1073 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: I met Chris. Chris was the first ever guest we 1074 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: had on our show period, Like we were on the 1075 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: air in just Nashville for a week before we went 1076 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: on the year nationally, and I was like, hey, you 1077 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: sound crazy and good and that's what I like you, 1078 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: So why don't you come do the show? So Chris 1079 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: showed up and played the song as our first ever 1080 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: guest on on a show that no one thought was 1081 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: gonna last more than a year, like really so far, 1082 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: we'll see And Chris came in and just and and 1083 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: played this so well. Now, but I do think I 1084 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: look back at that first time and it was just like, man, 1085 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: it's so good. And then from that time, you know, 1086 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: all the way until now deal or no deal or 1087 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: whatever the occasion, it was just like, let's just call Chris, 1088 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: thank you, charity event, non jaredy event, single, no sing. 1089 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: What was like, let's just call Chris. Let's just call 1090 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: it Chris. And that's just kind of how it's been 1091 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: for three and a half years now. First freaking guest 1092 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: on a show that wasn't gonna make it to a 1093 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: guy that they also told, Hey, you're not gonna make it, 1094 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: and hey we're gonna drop you, and hey we're many 1095 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: of times. Dude, I wrote that song with Kelly, my wife. 1096 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: Really that's a true story, as you well know. Let 1097 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: me ask you this, So your wife also your manager? Okay, 1098 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: how does that work for you? Is the only way 1099 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: I would do it? So does that mean a hundred 1100 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,280 Speaker 1: percent of the money just goes into the money? Good questions? 1101 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: I have a manager two and I know she get 1102 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: and so you guys are married. I mean, how's that working? 1103 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: You know what? Um? She has a co manager that 1104 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 1: she has, um that she teamed with, UH that actually 1105 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: teamed with her. Rephrase that team with her? UM. First 1106 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: of all, let me say, without Kelly, I wouldn't do 1107 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: anything um in this business. I had already decided that 1108 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: red red for by the boat happened. Um, I was 1109 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: very happy and very content, and once it did, I said, 1110 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: the only the only way that I will go forward 1111 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: with this song and and thanks to you for making 1112 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: a hit that very first moment um. The only way 1113 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: I'll do it is if you manage me this go around, 1114 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: and I won't do it any other way. I just so, 1115 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: she wasn't your manager before. Absolutely, so this round now 1116 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: that you the new Jansen, the new label of the 1117 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: news that the star now, it has been with her. 1118 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely And I will tell you and not just because 1119 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: not just because she's my wife, and not just because 1120 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to pat her on the back, but she 1121 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: is the brains behind the operation. Okay, I write the 1122 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: songs and I sing that, yes, but without her just 1123 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: sense of the world, I probably be a train wreck. 1124 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: So you wrote this with her? Yard If you're not 1125 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: going to be an artist anymore and you're writing song 1126 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: because I assume you saw had a publishing deal, a 1127 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: decent one, could you still writing songs? You just decided 1128 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: to doing me a songwriter? Was that it? You're just 1129 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: gonna be at the same time be a songwriter. I 1130 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: was gonna be a songwriter and an independent artist and 1131 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: just be happy and content with that and just tour 1132 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 1: because I've always had a fan base, thankfully, because I've 1133 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 1: all I've ever known is playing live. You know, It's 1134 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,439 Speaker 1: just what I do. So we've been touring forever, whether 1135 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: it be in my truck, I mean, we shoid we 1136 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: should get in my truck. Man on Craig's. I'm a 1137 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: Craigslist junkie, right, So I've had a million trucks off Craiglist, 1138 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: cars or whatever and flip them and sell them just 1139 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: like people do houses. And man, we get at Craigslist 1140 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: truck and drive eleven hours on a Friday night to 1141 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: West Virginia. I get up and play for an hour 1142 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: for five dollars, drive back the same night. I mean, 1143 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: we would just do anything we could to make ends 1144 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: meet and support a family. And and we've Man, I 1145 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 1: remember just feeling so rich. I mean literally, like I 1146 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: don't know what it was. We were like ky, we 1147 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: are like doing We're making it like this is awesome, 1148 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: and we don't have a there's no record, do We're 1149 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: not to answer anybody. It's amaze thing. And I mean 1150 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 1: just nothing, you know, just nothing. And but do we 1151 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: got to the point we're like rolling in a bus 1152 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: and stuff independent like just a full blown prevot tour 1153 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 1: bus and playing show. Has got a great agent. I 1154 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,439 Speaker 1: have the best agent in the world, like a guy, 1155 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: a guy who didn't care if I had a record 1156 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: doing or not, Like just didn't care and just believed 1157 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 1: in what I did talent wise, and for whatever reason, man, 1158 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have to give a sales pitch and he 1159 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: just he didn't have to sell it, and he just 1160 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: joined with us and took it in stride, just like 1161 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: we do. So you're writing buy me a Boat. Did 1162 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: you write that for you or were you just writing 1163 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 1: it to write it? I just writing it to ride 1164 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: At that point, um, brother, I I was listening to 1165 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: Hank Junior Records all morning. Came in Christo Ball and 1166 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: my co writer was like, what you want to write today? 1167 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: And uh, at that point I had already liked pre 1168 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: I'd already prefaced him in the in like we had 1169 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: like one co right before that. I did prefaced him 1170 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: like I don't want to be an artist. But but 1171 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: he's like, dude, what are you talking to me? You 1172 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: don't want to be an artist? Like you You're an 1173 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: Artist's what you do, it's what you do. We went 1174 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: in and, um, I wrote the biggest song of my career. 1175 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 1: When you finished this song where you're like, ah, this 1176 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: is a good one, because you write a lot of songs, yes, 1177 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: I will say that. I was like, that's a good 1178 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: that is awesome. I love I actually love that. And 1179 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: I remember telling Kelly about it before we got the 1180 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 1: demo and stuff. I remember like, I love the song. 1181 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 1: Then we got the demo played for Kelly again, the 1182 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: brands of the operations said, that's a huge hit. We're 1183 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 1: gonna put that out. We gotta keep your touring going. 1184 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: So you put up on iTunes? Yes, no label? Nope? Yeah, 1185 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: which is did you? I mean you're running your own 1186 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: literally just run them on a little operation. I mean 1187 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, you know, I'm just 1188 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: like whatever. I signed up on tune Core with my 1189 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: with my like personal email and everything else. I mean, 1190 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 1: just whatever. It's I was like, god, you can you 1191 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: can go on like twenty different Now I'm going on 1192 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: all these. Man, I won't gonna sell five of these things, 1193 00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be awesome. Five between five hundred. So, um, 1194 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: the quick version of this you emailed me the song 1195 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: I play it. It's skyrockets. Okay, all that happens. Now, 1196 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: what I want to know is that period between that 1197 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 1: happening in the song blowing up and the period you 1198 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: signed a record deal. So I play it like five 1199 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: times in one morning, and it's obviously a hit because 1200 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: the people listening to the radio made it a hit. 1201 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,959 Speaker 1: They download it like crazy. They loved so fast forward 1202 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: past that day and want me through the next couple 1203 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: of months. As you were trying to find a record 1204 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: that were they coming at you from different directions, different labels, 1205 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: like what happens. Then whenever there's a song that's huge 1206 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: from an unsigned artist, this is the fun part. So 1207 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: that happened. And by the way, thank you, you know 1208 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: what to say. That's why I glossed over it. You're 1209 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: welcome moving on. I know, I know that, but I'm 1210 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm just you know what kind of person I am, 1211 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm always gonna praise you for it. Man, 1212 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: you change your life. It's you change my kid's life. 1213 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I really do appreciate it. Whether you can 1214 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: take it or not, I appreciate it. I'm the same way. 1215 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: I can't take compliments, but I mean that. Um so, 1216 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 1: here's what happened. You played the song. I wasn't even 1217 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: awake yet, as you well know. I know we woke 1218 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: you up. You gotta understand. We just got back from 1219 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,240 Speaker 1: the beach. Okay, I had that song Trucky al McGraw, 1220 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 1: and and we we spent every little penny we made 1221 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 1: off that to buy an investment property, a little little 1222 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: eaty bitty beach condo. Right, we're down there, we're like 1223 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: redoing it. We're like, oh my god, we're making it 1224 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: so awesome making it. And uh. In the meanwhile, I'm like, 1225 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: oh crap, i' man, I got to I got tun 1226 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: Quarter tomorrow, killers you get town Quarter tomorrow. And we're 1227 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: on the way back, and well, you know, we got 1228 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: in it. Like why when did you made you that? 1229 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 1: Like two o'clock in the morning. Okay, it was we 1230 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 1: got it like two o'clock in the morning. And I 1231 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: remember being on for Joy Week three weeks prior to that, 1232 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: and you said, if you've got anything, just send it 1233 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: to me as my buddy. And I was like, okay. 1234 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: And I because people send me music and when I 1235 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: don't ask, I don't listen to it, right, But I 1236 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: asked you. I was like, dude, whatever you have, send 1237 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 1: it and you know, and you know me, I'm just 1238 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: and for people listening to there, I'm just not that 1239 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: kind of guy. Like I'm just I'm just not that guy. 1240 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't want it to come off like, oh man, 1241 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: and maybe he'll play my song, maybe right, or maybe 1242 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: not even whoever would play myself. I'm just not that 1243 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: kind of guy. And you gotta understand the day before 1244 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 1: you played it, I'm sitting there telling Luke Brian at 1245 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 1: a table in Deston, Florida. He's like, my on, what 1246 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: you guy going on? And I said, oh man, just nothing, 1247 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: just touring right, and saw you know, Bubba, we're down 1248 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: here remodeling this name. He's like, oh man, that's cool. 1249 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: And then the next morning you played it, and I 1250 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: saw him three weeks later, he's like, what the hell 1251 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean are you kidding? So anyway, you played the song, 1252 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't even up yet. I get up. I'm doing 1253 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: the dad thing. I mean like Kelly is going to start, 1254 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: but we're just doing the normal deal, right. She's like, um, 1255 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, U turn the radio. Go to your 1256 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: truck turning radio. Um my phone's blown up like, probably 1257 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: won'ta s playing your song? Like, what are you talking about? 1258 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what do you what I mean, 1259 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: I didn't. I forgot I sent it to you. I mean, yeah, 1260 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 1: that's how nonchalant it was, you know. And so I 1261 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: get in the truck and then we talked on the phone. 1262 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: And in the middle after I got off the phone 1263 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: with you and and Eddie and the and the crew there. 1264 00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: I never forget that when I was talking to ed 1265 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: and he was remember he was saying, it's going to 1266 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: the right. I was talking to him. I never forget 1267 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: then when you hung up the phone and I got 1268 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: my first phone call from a record label, and it 1269 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 1: was Chris Lacey at Warner Brothers. And she was like, 1270 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, um, what's going on. I'm like, I 1271 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: haven't heard from you, and like I never hear from you, 1272 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. I mean what I 1273 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: mean at this point, I'm just whatever, you know, and 1274 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: she goes, do you want to record it? I mean, 1275 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: do you even want to record it? I mean, I 1276 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: don't know, do you I don't know what's up? Oh 1277 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: my god, what's going on? I mean I'm crying. I mean, 1278 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: my Dad's crying. I mean, what's going on? I mean, 1279 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: That's exactly how the conversation went. I'm like, I don't 1280 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: even know call call my wife. She's like, UM, can 1281 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: I call Johnasposito at Warner Brothers, just the president of 1282 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 1: the label, you know? Can I call him? And can 1283 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: we can we just get a meeting with you? And 1284 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm thinking, boy, how the tables have turned 1285 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: and you have lebage, you have a you have you 1286 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: have what they want? What to the hit? Well, it's 1287 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: so that happens. And in the meantime. In the meantime, 1288 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: phone calls are swarming Kelly's phone, like how did you 1289 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: get my wife's phone number? I'm talking like people we 1290 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: don't even know, people from like out of state, people 1291 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: from out of the country. Literally record labels by one 1292 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon thirteen thirteen, solid real record deal 1293 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 1: offers like big ones, the biggest, the biggest you could get. 1294 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 1: I liked Johneseposito and Chris Lacey Scott Andris Peter Strickland. 1295 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: I like the team. It was really good sign with them. 1296 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: By the way, thank you listen to this so I 1297 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: get in there. The Vestage had to come. There's a 1298 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: very special lady that works to the label, and she 1299 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 1: would be embarrassing if we even mentioned her. Probably she's 1300 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: like not that kind of personal to credit take credit 1301 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: for things. Her name is Lisa Ray. We love her 1302 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: very much, my brand manager. She pulled over her car. 1303 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 1: She was the first person. I didn't know this. She 1304 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: was the first person before Chris Lacey, before anybody knew 1305 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: or even heard on the radio, who just happened to 1306 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: be listening to your show. I had no idea who 1307 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: I was pulled over a car and goes, oh my god, 1308 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: started calling everybody Warner Brothers. You have to get ahold 1309 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: of it. Do you know who christ Jansen is? Chris 1310 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Lis like, of course the dude and turn it on. 1311 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: That's how the whole thing started. Without lista ray Man 1312 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: like for real, and she's one of our she's she's 1313 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: our tightest compadre at the label. Um, but without starting 1314 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: with you bro like it just I just can't even 1315 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: imagine where we would be. It's unbelievable. We got offered 1316 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: so many record deals. John Asposito was on vacation, flew in. 1317 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: We had a special meeting. Um, I didn't I didn't 1318 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 1: need to take anymore in person meetings. And that see 1319 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 1: you signed with Warner Brothers, which, by the way, John 1320 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: Eado also in his death, but was one of my 1321 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 1: favorite people in town. Like just a great dude. And 1322 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: also you know, ran hey hip hop label for a while. 1323 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: That was what I love about it. Bro. I gotta 1324 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 1: tell you, I never told you this because you'll get 1325 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: a kick out of this. And I'm not gonna mention 1326 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 1: names because it it doesn't matter. And and and I'm 1327 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 1: still actually you know, acquainted friends with these people. Um, 1328 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: we've had great successes together actually on other other projects. However, 1329 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you that two weeks before you 1330 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: played my song, I was in a label meeting trying 1331 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: to get signed off of not I was trying to 1332 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: get signed up, buying me a boat and those kind 1333 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: of things. Okay, um off my tune Core project was 1334 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: about to come out, and they were Um, I just 1335 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: never forget a very very influential executive in town going 1336 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: that is not a hit. That will never work. Country 1337 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: music is not going in that direction. And um kind 1338 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: of liked my other stuff, but basically, just in a 1339 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: very rude way, wasted my time showed up in sweatpants, 1340 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: like I didn't want to be at the meeting kind 1341 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: of thing, and um it really it really got me 1342 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: in a pretty big funk. I'm not gonna lie, and 1343 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 1: so that was when you played it. It was a 1344 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: big deal and it was a big deal for my family, 1345 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: and it was it came at a time where I 1346 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 1: and you know this, I say this with a lot 1347 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: of pride. And now it's funny. I didn't really want 1348 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 1: a record deal. I wasn't really looking for one. Isn't 1349 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: it funny how life works. That's how a lot of 1350 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 1: life works. Yeah, it's like we were not looking for 1351 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: one man. We were not looking at all for one. Okay, 1352 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: we've been burnt. We've been burnt once before. I had 1353 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: one before that one that we got burnt that we 1354 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: didn't get burnt. I just like the label fell apart. 1355 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: It was just like, yeah, I just didn't have a 1356 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 1: very good, awesome upbringing as far as record labels were concerned. 1357 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 1: And now I finally feel like we have a home. 1358 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 1: It's really cool because they really respect my artistry. And 1359 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: it was more than just buy me a boat. They 1360 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: they let me make the records. I want to make 1361 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: and they respect my songwriting, which really matters to me. 1362 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: It really matters to me big time. And um, you know, 1363 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: we just would love Warner Brothers. And by the way, 1364 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: there was a guy um named Clay honeycut Um who 1365 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 1: was with my Heart Media at the time, and um, 1366 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 1: you know before I signed my deal, before I signed 1367 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 1: my deal, after you played it, before I signed the deal, Um, 1368 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: he picked me as the first independent artist for the 1369 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 1: on the Verge program would buy me a boat, which 1370 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 1: is an unbelievable blessing and something that was huge and 1371 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 1: very um humbling for me. Also before I signed the deal, 1372 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: cmt Leslie fram Um came to Kelly. We want to 1373 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: we my my my bosses and and all of my 1374 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 1: cohorts and everybody. We want to come together. We want 1375 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,479 Speaker 1: to make a music video independent for buying me a boat. 1376 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 1: And uh they funded the video. It was really an 1377 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: amazing thing and they did. And then then the Warner 1378 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: Brothers steal uh came in and took effect. After the 1379 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, I had a meeting and everything was just 1380 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: such on the fast track, and um, then it all 1381 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: just happened and we're still we're like we're riding this 1382 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: huge wave and we we we don't want to get 1383 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: off of it. We really enjoy it it. But we're 1384 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: very thankful. We very notice that the Grindstone we're still 1385 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: the same people. And um, we just we've learned a lot. 1386 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: We've learned what it's like to have the great successes 1387 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: of the music business now, and um, the upsides and 1388 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the downsides and all the in betweens, and um, we're 1389 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: enjoy it. So as you talk about songwriting, we're gonna 1390 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: go through and I'll play a song that you wrote 1391 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: on Get me about a fifteen second story about each 1392 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 1: of the songs. Alright, you ready we did how I'll 1393 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Always Be? Why don't we do Truck Yeah, truck yeah? Dude? Um, 1394 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: I got in there with my boys low Cash and 1395 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: another cat named Danny Merick. Danny's a great guitar player 1396 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: and a great guy on a beat box kind of things. 1397 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Uh, I said, Uh, I said, 1398 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: well if yeah, you know, talking like dudes due in 1399 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: the locker room, and uh, Preston goes, whooo, what about 1400 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 1: truck yeah? Man? And I was like, yeah, that would 1401 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 1: never work. And that's how the song came about. In 1402 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: about twenty minutes later we had a song and that 1403 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: was my first ever cut recording major artist cut period. Yeah, 1404 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: ended up being a single in the number one song. 1405 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: I had a couple of things recorded that like didn't 1406 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: mean anything. My first cut on a major artist was 1407 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,959 Speaker 1: Tim McGraw truck. Yeah. We were pushing Georgia, our youngest 1408 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: daught her around in the stroller. We just had her. 1409 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 1: That's how God works. How about this one? I Love 1410 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 1: this Life with Lok freaking Okay, same cruise truck, Yeah, 1411 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 1: same exact writers, all three entities. What's gonna be interesting 1412 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: is how you tell the story because I heard we 1413 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 1: heard this story from Preston, but I want to hear 1414 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: how you tell it because everybody's perspective is always different 1415 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 1: because you come from different sizes. Yeah, no, Worris so well, 1416 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 1: it will probably be pretty similar because we're we're very 1417 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: much on the same page. We all showed up at 1418 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Danny's house and I was wired like on fourteen Mountain 1419 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 1: Dews or something, and I go in and um, I'm 1420 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: just like you can can can just playing guitar, and 1421 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Danny's playing guitars, great guitar player, great melody guy, and 1422 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 1: we all just started rapping off words. Okay, and I 1423 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 1: have to tell you, I have to give a lot 1424 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 1: of credit to low Cash on a lot of these 1425 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: lyrics because they were feeling a low Cash song and 1426 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 1: I was feeling it for him. Now, I will say, 1427 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: when Boys of Summer comes on, you asked Preston, you 1428 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: asked Chris, It's totally my line. I love that line, right. 1429 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 1: But man, we just started thinking about happy things, which, 1430 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't naturally wake up and write 1431 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,919 Speaker 1: these kind of songs. I naturally wake up and write 1432 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 1: like Dean Dylan, George Strait kind of songs. Okay, naturally 1433 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: when I wake up. I had to work at this one, 1434 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: and I'm proud to be a part of it. How 1435 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: about and this is the title track from Justin Moore 1436 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: from his record Off the Beaten Path number one record, Yeah, 1437 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: Off the Beaten Path. This is my dude here, love him, 1438 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 1: like him and I have a relationship outside of anything worthwise, 1439 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 1: like when I need tickets. I mean, this is like solid, dude, 1440 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 1: he is so solid. Um story behind the song fifteen 1441 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: seconds Jeremy Stover, the same guy wrote how will Always 1442 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: Be with Um? Who also produces Justin, which by the 1443 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: way doesn't mean you're gonna get a Justin Moore cut. 1444 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 1: It just happens to be um. I sang this demo actually, 1445 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: and it was a very much I don't mean to 1446 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 1: talk in third person here, but it was very much 1447 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 1: a Jansen song. It was gonna be on me as 1448 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 1: an artist, but I didn't have a record deal at 1449 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 1: the time, so what did that matter? Justin was cutting, 1450 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,920 Speaker 1: loved the song. Record to the song ended up being 1451 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 1: the title track to his number one record Off the 1452 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Beaten Path. What's it like when Hank Junior cuts one 1453 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 1: of your songs? I mean, that's gotta I mean you 1454 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 1: mentioned you just go play Hank buddy, And then when 1455 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: he cuts one, thank you Julian Raymond, who has uh 1456 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: produced that record and works at Big Machine. What a 1457 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: great guy. If you don't know him, you need to. 1458 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: He's top notch. And thanks Hank Williams. I'm an old 1459 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm an old friend of Hank. Hank's an old friend 1460 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: of mine. We go way back. Hank actually gave me 1461 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: my first opportunity to have a major tour. Hank and 1462 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Leonard skinnerd and Larawty friends tour two years in a 1463 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: row and uh Ken Levitan also his manager, which was 1464 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 1: an amazing thing. Man, I got to Hank Junior cuts, 1465 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 1: and they are my greatest musical achievements as far as 1466 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: songwritings in certain period, because when you grew up listening 1467 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: to Whiskey Bent and hell Bound and Hank and and 1468 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 1: Hank Senior music a lie. And then Hank Jr. Sends 1469 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 1: word through the grape vine to brother Jansen that he 1470 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: wants something that kind of sounds Whiskey Bent Hell Bonnest, 1471 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 1: but not Whiskey Bent Hell Bond, just updated. And you 1472 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 1: send him those days are gone and he cuts it 1473 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 1: right off the bat. What was the other one you cut? 1474 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: God fearing man, It's gonna be cool to have when 1475 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 1: your hero thinks something you wrote. Bro. Honestly, my here. 1476 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 1: First of all, let me say my hero is Jesus, 1477 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 1: and my other hero is It's might surprise you, but 1478 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 1: my other hero, um, whom you will meet at some 1479 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: point is my father in law. It's great man, great man. 1480 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: We're like two piece in a freaking pod. Honestly, just 1481 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,640 Speaker 1: different ages. Hank Junior though, is a musical definitely a 1482 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,719 Speaker 1: musical influence. And I would guess you would say country 1483 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 1: music hero of mine. To have him record those songs 1484 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 1: do it was like, I'm telling you, my greatest musical 1485 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 1: achievement as a songwriter ever it will always be because 1486 01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 1: when you come from where I come, where you come 1487 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 1: for where we come from, born to boogie? Is it all? 1488 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 1: My righty friends are coming over tonight. That is the deal. 1489 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 1: And dude, not one, but two, it was. That was 1490 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: my great, great honor. You played at the Republican National 1491 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Convention instead of truck Yeah, you played Trump? Yeah? Whose 1492 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 1: idea wasn't the change of the word. Honestly, man, I 1493 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,560 Speaker 1: got kind of backed into a corner that night. It 1494 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,600 Speaker 1: was the networks, So you're gonna play truck yeah. I 1495 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 1: was gonna play truck yeah. Absolutely, just truck yeah. And 1496 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 1: um they were like, hey man, how would you feel 1497 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 1: about doing Trump yet? And I'm like, I don't know, 1498 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: no if I feel so good about that? Uh, you know. 1499 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,679 Speaker 1: And it's not not because I like or dislike Trumps, 1500 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: just I don't know if I feel good about doing that. 1501 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 1: It just wasn't the song in your mind. That's it. 1502 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: The song is what it is, right, and so it 1503 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,640 Speaker 1: is what it is, a big hit. Everybody knows it 1504 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 1: I've been warming up all days singing and that kind 1505 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,559 Speaker 1: of thing. If I was like cool truck, yeah, whoa 1506 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,599 Speaker 1: right party song. It was their idea. But when in Rome, 1507 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 1: do as the Romans do, and you know what, it 1508 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 1: kind of worked out because Cruise is getting booed off stage. 1509 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: I started singing it and Trump walks out and goes 1510 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: he gives me that trump thumbs and I'm like the 1511 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: mouth out. Yeah, it's so good. It was the song. Actually, 1512 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 1: excuse me, excuse me. It made me so happy when 1513 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 1: you did it. Okay, thank you, thank you. I win 1514 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 1: the debate. It's over. I won. You lost. That's a 1515 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,560 Speaker 1: good oppression. Dude. Hey man, hey, you know what to 1516 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 1: answer your question, It is true. Um, I've only ever 1517 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 1: played music to play music, that's the bottom line. And 1518 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,080 Speaker 1: it was a gig, and it was a big gig. 1519 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 1: And you know what, no matter if it's for the 1520 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 1: left side of the road or the right side of 1521 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: the road, A gigs and gigs and gigs a gig. 1522 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 1: And at the bottom line, is they pay you for that? 1523 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: Of course, absolutely no, it was a paid gig. I 1524 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: looked at it as a tour show, which is exactly 1525 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,599 Speaker 1: what it was. It just happened to get a little 1526 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 1: blown out of proportion because it's a big deal here 1527 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 1: this hold on, this is the place. Let me here 1528 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 1: get let's I've never talked to you about this, And 1529 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: I wondered whose idea wasn't to go Trump? Yeah, because 1530 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 1: they didn't make your boves change their songs right. Well, 1531 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 1: you know they were big fans of mine, I guess, 1532 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 1: and they thought I was a rowdy guy. Like you said, 1533 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 1: this guy is a little bit wild and crazy. Um, 1534 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 1: you know what, looking back, to be frankly honest with you, 1535 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: looking back, probably wouldn't have done it. Um. You know 1536 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 1: it's not my song. First of all, it's Tim mcgrawls song. 1537 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 1: And out of respect to Tim, um, it's a mcgrawl song. However, 1538 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 1: it is what it is. You do things along your 1539 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 1: along your career path. You just kind of shoot from 1540 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: the hip and you go with it and you do 1541 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 1: what the situation calls for when it calls for it. 1542 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to get stopped, you know, I 1543 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: was in the moment. It just happened. They're commercial this 1544 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 1: out now where they're seeing I don't know who's singing it. 1545 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't either, it's weird. There's something to the truck. Yeah, 1546 01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,599 Speaker 1: commercial for a tripper is it Dodge or it's forward 1547 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,639 Speaker 1: and they're singing truck Yeah. Yeah, it's not you, it's 1548 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 1: not Tim, it's not low cash, it's not low cash, 1549 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: but it's truck. Yeah. They come, they come to you 1550 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 1: and say we're gonna do a Ford commercial. Quenus your song. 1551 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 1: They didn't. I was just as surprised you or when 1552 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,760 Speaker 1: it came on, and just as surprises you just saw 1553 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: it on TV. You were just where to god, I 1554 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 1: saw it on TV. It's a long story and I 1555 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately can't get into all the details. Even though we're 1556 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 1: getting praised. Um, well you know, we'll get residuals off 1557 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: of because we're sorry that you get paid when you're 1558 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 1: a songwriter. Um. For those who don't know, it's it 1559 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 1: is a job. I mean, it's you know, it's just 1560 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 1: like any other job, though you have to work really 1561 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 1: hard and hopefully you win. Um. But long story short, 1562 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 1: that didn't go all down as we all wanted it 1563 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 1: to collectively. However, again, some things just happen, and some 1564 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 1: things have to happen sporadically and very quick and um, 1565 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it just is what it is. 1566 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 1: The commercial is what it is. I would have preferred 1567 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: McGraw's version be out there again out of respect for 1568 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 1: my buddy, my friend Tim McGraw, who made a giant 1569 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,560 Speaker 1: hit out of our song and gave us all a 1570 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 1: job as songwriters. So before we wrap, let's do a 1571 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 1: quick highlow of your career. Yes, hi, hi, not hello, 1572 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,559 Speaker 1: the highest point of your career, just kidding, the highest 1573 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,599 Speaker 1: point of my career. One moment in your career that's 1574 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,640 Speaker 1: like the highlight for you here in that here and 1575 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,160 Speaker 1: buy me a boat on the radio for the first 1576 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 1: time that morning. The low, the low, um, I honestly 1577 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 1: the lower. I try not to pay attention too much 1578 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 1: to the low parts, but I guess, I guess if 1579 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 1: I had to pick one. Um, when uh, when your 1580 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,680 Speaker 1: record label just falls apart and you don't know what's 1581 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen, I want to take you to another play 1582 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 1: in your personal life. Bring it you're high. My wife 1583 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,760 Speaker 1: well part of a meeting her, marrying her. Um everything, Man, 1584 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: I really found true love, and that's hard to find. 1585 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm still one of the old time thinkers, I guess, 1586 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 1: classic thinkers. I still believe in real love and when 1587 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,560 Speaker 1: you find it, you have to take care of it. 1588 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 1: And I really love my wife through I mean, I 1589 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 1: just love her the low the low in my personal life. UM, 1590 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:45,719 Speaker 1: I would say probably any time before, any time before 1591 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,680 Speaker 1: I give my heart to the Lord. When when was that? 1592 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 1: A two thousand and one? That's the day it became saved? 1593 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Day became a Christian? Where were you Shelbyville, Tennessee First 1594 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Baptist Church. Did you have a plan You're gonna raise 1595 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 1: your hand? Actually, I said, I'm absolutely not doing that. 1596 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 1: I was at a Ken Freeman revival. Ken Freeman is 1597 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 1: a great UM motivational speaker and pastor and evangelist. UM 1598 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: at least he was. I don't know what he's doing now, 1599 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 1: but never forget it. He uh was talking and it 1600 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 1: just hit me at my heart. And there I went, 1601 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 1: and I was the only person who went to the altar. 1602 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 1: So he walked up as you're walking freaking out, hearts racing, hearts, 1603 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 1: unbelievably racing. And I at that point had never been 1604 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 1: told about the word, or at least in a way 1605 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:48,680 Speaker 1: that I felt comfortable with it. That makes sense, And 1606 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 1: so I went up there by myself and that was it, 1607 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 1: just just like that. I appreciate the talk. Man, It's 1608 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 1: been good, dude. This has been my honor. And I 1609 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 1: hope everybody listening downloads the crap out of hold in 1610 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 1: her thank you, and I hope and I say it 1611 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,639 Speaker 1: not just to your face. Lets say it when you're 1612 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,800 Speaker 1: not around, I tweeted, I say that anybody will listen, 1613 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 1: like I think propounding, you're the best live performer I've 1614 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: ever seen. Thank you. Is it unfair to compare you 1615 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 1: and people with a huge pirate. Yeah, if you put 1616 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,839 Speaker 1: two guys up on stage and you just say perform, 1617 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 1: I don't know it's better than you. Thank you very much. 1618 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that. I don't eve ever told 1619 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 1: him Bills that in this podcast because it would be alive. 1620 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 1: I did go check the day of everybody. But if 1621 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 1: you get a chance to see Chris out, go see 1622 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 1: him like he if he's playing with an encoustic guitar, 1623 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,680 Speaker 1: he's got a full band whatever. I do think you 1624 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 1: are the but and I think it comes from having 1625 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 1: to grind for so long. Like you, you just didn't 1626 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,640 Speaker 1: grow up with those skills put on too you. You 1627 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,840 Speaker 1: worked for those skills because you can get to hustle 1628 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 1: still grinding, baby, and you're still hustling. You gotta always hustle, man. 1629 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 1: The minute you quit hustling, you lost. Chris Jansen download 1630 01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,640 Speaker 1: Holding Her you know, or if you're listening to this 1631 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 1: any year whatever his song is now on the radio, 1632 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 1: don't load that one, yea, I love it. If you're 1633 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 1: hearing that's a year from now. His new single that 1634 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 1: just came out. I love that one too. On it 1635 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: it's amazing. I trust me. These things last a long time. 1636 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, whatever song is, that's my favorite song on 1637 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,080 Speaker 1: the radio, whatever it is right now, I love that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, alright, Chris, 1638 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 1: Thanks Buddy point episode is this? Thanks for listening to 1639 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 1: Episode twenties six of the Bobby Cast. Download the record, 1640 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 1: buy me about, check out all those songs, and thanks 1641 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 1: for the songs behind the songs. Thank you for rusting 1642 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,920 Speaker 1: the artists that you aren't that you wrote for. Who's 1643 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,439 Speaker 1: the guy behind the guy? Who's the big winner? Tonight? Mike? 1644 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:47,080 Speaker 1: He's the big winner? That's who Mike? Follow him on 1645 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,760 Speaker 1: Snapchatty I wonderful produced. Anything to ask before we go? 1646 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,760 Speaker 1: You always have a great question or two anything. You said, 1647 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: you're back on the do how many of you drinking 1648 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 1: mountain dew mountain dew one and a half today? Not so, 1649 01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm not really back on it. And you're the worst 1650 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 1: in mountain due time. What were you drinking? Oh, easily 1651 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 1: close to two twelve packs a day. Yeah, I had 1652 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 1: to drink it three later to day, and I would 1653 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 1: work out and drink it three later. I'll be like, oh, 1654 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 1: feel good, guy, let's get another one. All right? All right, 1655 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 1: thank you guys. We'll see you next time here on 1656 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast.