WEBVTT - Bush v. Gore: Episode 2 – Real Numbers

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<v Speaker 1>Previously on Fiasco.

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<v Speaker 2>The Vice President step elbows deep into the La and

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<v Speaker 2>Gonzales controversy.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be a Democrat at the time over

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<v Speaker 3>the lean Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 4>He was skilled to by association.

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly it's a two front war against George Bush and

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<v Speaker 5>a new headache consumer advocate Ralph Nader.

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<v Speaker 6>Homestead Air Force Base has become all things to all people.

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<v Speaker 4>Gore had a choice to make, and he decided to

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<v Speaker 4>avoid the choice. It was Waffle City.

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<v Speaker 7>I asked for your help and your vote because I

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<v Speaker 7>want to fight for you. God, bless you, Florida.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Murray Adelman was just out of college and working a

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<v Speaker 1>summer job at the US Census Bureau when he met

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<v Speaker 1>an older statistician named Warren Mitofski. It was nineteen sixty six.

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<v Speaker 1>The following year, Mitofsky got an exciting new job with

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<v Speaker 1>the CBS News elections desk, and he started trying to

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<v Speaker 1>convince Aidelman to join him there.

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<v Speaker 4>He knew I was one of the sharper things at

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<v Speaker 4>the bureau at the time, and so he kept after

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<v Speaker 4>me to come to New York and I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>If Adelman were to follow Mitofsky to CBS News, he

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<v Speaker 1>would be entering a TV news tradition dating back to

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties, when the three broadcast news networks NBC, ABC

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<v Speaker 1>and CBS started using computers to cover elections.

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<v Speaker 9>And the computers shows a candidate victory. Gentlemen, let me

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<v Speaker 9>tell you this, if they ever teeth this machine to

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<v Speaker 9>talk you and I while we're out of business war in.

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<v Speaker 1>Matovski's job at CBS News was to best these machines.

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<v Speaker 1>His mission was to build a new statistical model that

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<v Speaker 1>could more accurately and more quickly predict election results while

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<v Speaker 1>vote totals were still coming in on election night. Despite

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<v Speaker 1>his initial reluctance to move to New York City, Murray

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<v Speaker 1>Adelman saw the appeal of the work and accepted Matovsky's invitation.

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<v Speaker 9>CBS News coverage of election night, reporting from election headquarters

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<v Speaker 9>correspondent Water Crunkuites.

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<v Speaker 1>The last election Adelman watched as a civilian was in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty six, and.

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<v Speaker 4>We were watching the returns and I was saying, that

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<v Speaker 4>was a cool job. You know, you get to actually

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<v Speaker 4>predict something and you get the result like right away.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I thought it was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see figures changing rapidly on these boards and on

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<v Speaker 2>these banks behind me, the mistakes, and we hope there

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<v Speaker 2>won't be any come from us.

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<v Speaker 9>We are going to have what we call for Adelman.

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<v Speaker 1>Worked at CBS News as a consultant while attending graduate

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<v Speaker 1>school at the University of Chicago. During this time, he

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<v Speaker 1>co founded the Chicago chapter of the Gay Liberation Front,

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<v Speaker 1>a radical civil rights organization that formed after the Stonewall riots.

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<v Speaker 4>I had this button that said Gay Revolutionary. I was

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<v Speaker 4>worrying that at CBS, and I remember some producer in

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<v Speaker 4>the office sort of looked at it and she said, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>as we were getting in the elevator. And so a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of those years at CBS and in my professional

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<v Speaker 4>life was making space for who I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting in nineteen sixty eight, Adelman and Metowski spent every

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<v Speaker 1>presidential election working side by side keeping track of the

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<v Speaker 1>most important races in the map and analyzing the returns

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<v Speaker 1>as they rolled in. Their most important task was to

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<v Speaker 1>make predictions about who was going to win what race

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<v Speaker 1>once every ballot had been counted.

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<v Speaker 2>We do so badly want to be accurate.

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<v Speaker 7>We want you to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Accurate returns, fast returns put forward to you in a clear.

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<v Speaker 4>Concise way.

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<v Speaker 1>Network executives thought of election night as an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>secure prestige, bragging rights, and most importantly, audience share.

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<v Speaker 7>You mad too to do a little dial twas thing

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<v Speaker 7>to see how our competitors are doing. But we hope

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<v Speaker 7>and trust fee.

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<v Speaker 10>Will be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the seventies and eighties, the three networks invested heavily

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<v Speaker 1>in their election night coverage, with CBS News eager to

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<v Speaker 1>gain any advantage over its competitors. Mitofsky and Aedelman were

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<v Speaker 1>given the resources to create a new analytical method that

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<v Speaker 1>would end up transforming election coverage. It was called exit

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<v Speaker 1>polling an.

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<v Speaker 9>Exit polls we call it a poll of voters as

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<v Speaker 9>they left.

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<v Speaker 2>The polling places across the country and randomly selected precincts.

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<v Speaker 1>Exit polls were inspired by a marketing technique used in

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<v Speaker 1>the film industry, where audiences would be shown movies early

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<v Speaker 1>in an interview about what they liked and didn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Vitovsky and Aightlman adapted that approach to voting by sending

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<v Speaker 1>an army of temp workers contracted by CBS to sample

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<v Speaker 1>precincts around the country. The workers would stand around outside

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<v Speaker 1>polling places and approach people who had just voted. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they would ask them as series of questions.

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<v Speaker 4>I could tell you like gender, tell you men voted

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<v Speaker 4>this way, women voted this way. By race. It describes

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<v Speaker 4>the electrode. It gives you a whole snapshot of the electrode.

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<v Speaker 1>As the exit poll survey results came in, analysts working

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<v Speaker 1>under Matovsky and Ailmen would mind them for insights and

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<v Speaker 1>de voter behavior. Those insights would then be passed on

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<v Speaker 1>to CBS News anchors, who would turn them into fine

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<v Speaker 1>grained analysis about what the election results were showing.

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<v Speaker 9>The single hotest thing our poll trained up is the

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<v Speaker 9>difference between the sections Carter and Reagan are dead even

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<v Speaker 9>among women.

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<v Speaker 1>CBS News was initially the only network using exit polls

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<v Speaker 1>to enrich their election coverage, but soon enough the others

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<v Speaker 1>started doing it too. Then, in nineteen eighty, NBC realized

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<v Speaker 1>that they could predict the winner of a race based

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<v Speaker 1>exclusively on exit polls, meaning they wouldn't even have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait for the real vote totals to come in before

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<v Speaker 1>making a projection.

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<v Speaker 7>The decision eighty NBC News reports the results of our

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<v Speaker 7>national election.

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<v Speaker 1>That November. NBC accurately called eleven states based solely on

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<v Speaker 1>exit polls instead of vote totals. It was a bold

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<v Speaker 1>strategy that allowed the network to all but declare the

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<v Speaker 1>election for Ronald Reagan in their first minute of coverage.

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<v Speaker 11>Good evening, and welcome to NBC News's coverage of the

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<v Speaker 11>nineteen eighty presidential elections. We have been polling around the

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<v Speaker 11>country and what we're learning in the key states makes

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<v Speaker 11>us believe that Ronald Reagan will win a very substantial

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<v Speaker 11>victory tonight, very substantial.

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<v Speaker 4>The general principle of the networks is that they do

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<v Speaker 4>not call a state unless they have data in from voters.

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<v Speaker 4>That they have some after the polls close, they have

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<v Speaker 4>real data in, and so NBC used the exit poll

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<v Speaker 4>as their real data, and so races that closed at

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<v Speaker 4>eight o'clock they could call on the basis of the

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<v Speaker 4>exit poll.

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<v Speaker 1>By incorporating exit poll data into their prediction model so

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively NBC was able to trounce both ABC and CBS.

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<v Speaker 1>The call came so early in the night that even

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan's Vice President elect, George HW Bush was hesitant to

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<v Speaker 1>declare victory.

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<v Speaker 8>I did hear the NBC report. I think it's too

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<v Speaker 8>early that I must say. It's more encouraging to have

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<v Speaker 8>these so called exit polls speaking favorably.

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<v Speaker 1>After NBC's big night in nineteen eighty, all the networks

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<v Speaker 1>started using exit polls to do projections. Election night coverage

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<v Speaker 1>was an arms race, and no one could afford to

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<v Speaker 1>get left behind. The problem was that conducting exit polls

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<v Speaker 1>nationwide cost a ton of money, and by the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety mid terms, budget conscious news executives were willing to

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<v Speaker 1>try something different and cheaper. Instead of each network spending

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars running its own separate exit polling operation, NBC,

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<v Speaker 1>ABC and CBS, along with newcomers CNN, decided to come

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<v Speaker 1>together and create a jointly owned exit polling consortium. The

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<v Speaker 1>consortion would come to be known as Voter News Service

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<v Speaker 1>or VNS for short. Warren Mitofsky was put in charge

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<v Speaker 1>and Murray Adelman became his number two. Together, they oversaw

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<v Speaker 1>one stop shop for election night coverage, conducting exit polls,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping track of incoming vote tallies, analyzing the data using

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<v Speaker 1>the proprietary model, and calling winners and losers. In exchange

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<v Speaker 1>for funding VNS, the news networks received a live feed

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<v Speaker 1>of Mitofsky and Adelman's conclusions, and the anchors would narrate

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<v Speaker 1>the election accordingly.

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<v Speaker 4>Warren and I were calling the races. We would enter

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<v Speaker 4>it into the system. The networks would all see it,

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<v Speaker 4>and they could then do whatever they wanted with it.

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<v Speaker 7>We're going to make another projection. Now we project that

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<v Speaker 7>Bill Clinton is going to be the next president of

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<v Speaker 7>the United States. We projected Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>The advent of VNS did not kill off election night

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<v Speaker 1>competition between the networks. It just became less expensive. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the networks were now all working off the same VNS

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<v Speaker 1>data and the same VNS projection model, but they could

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<v Speaker 1>make their own choices about when it was safe to

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<v Speaker 1>call a race. Under the VNS system, each news organization

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<v Speaker 1>was free to set its own standards for how likely

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<v Speaker 1>someone's victory needed to be before a winner could be declared.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a statistical model. All right, and the model says, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you might be wrong one out of two hundred close races. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're willing to say I'll be wrong two out

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<v Speaker 4>of two hundred, you have an edge. And so there's

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<v Speaker 4>real benefits to just being faster and a little riskier,

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<v Speaker 4>because the chance of it catching up with you are very,

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<v Speaker 4>very small.

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<v Speaker 1>As the nineties wore on, the network started calling races

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<v Speaker 1>too early for Adelman's taste. The drive to outpace the

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<v Speaker 1>competition seemed to be overpowering the need to be sure

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<v Speaker 1>and the need to be right. Adelman feared that at

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<v Speaker 1>some point the networks would get overconfident with an important race.

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<v Speaker 1>Then on November seventh, two thousand, it happened.

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<v Speaker 12>Good grief, eleven thousand votes. It's less than a half

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<v Speaker 12>a point. That would be something if the network's managed

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<v Speaker 12>to blow it twice in one night.

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<v Speaker 1>Speak for yourself, Adelman told me he would come to

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<v Speaker 1>divide his career into two distinct eras before and after.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>You've asked me to remember the most miserable day of

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<v Speaker 4>my life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we're not there yet.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Leon Nafok from Prolog Projects and Pushkin industries. This

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<v Speaker 1>is fiasco bush v Gore.

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<v Speaker 2>Some strange, unusual things happening in flog.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, the networks give us, the networks take it away.

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<v Speaker 14>All the networks and all the pollsters are going to

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<v Speaker 14>get lots of egg on their faith.

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<v Speaker 6>I've just never seen anything like this.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm at a loss.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode two, Real Numbers. What went on behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>on Election Night two thousand as statisticians, political operatives, and

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<v Speaker 1>TV anchors walked the line between reporting the news, predicting

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<v Speaker 1>the future, and shaping reality. There were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>states where the two thousand election was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>extremely close. Poles have been tight all over the country

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<v Speaker 1>from mid months, and they were only getting tighter as

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<v Speaker 1>election day drew near.

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<v Speaker 2>The race is as hot and tight as a too

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<v Speaker 2>small bathing suit on a too long car ride back from.

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<v Speaker 12>The beach, and all the polls indicate this remains a

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<v Speaker 12>race too close to call.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just the presidency that hung in the balance.

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<v Speaker 1>The House and the Senate were also up for grabs,

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<v Speaker 1>and many of those races looked close to.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the first time since nineteen forty eight, when

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<v Speaker 4>control of the White House, the Senate and the House

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<v Speaker 4>of Representatives all have been legitimately up for grabs on

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<v Speaker 4>election day Republic.

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<v Speaker 1>A week before election day, Murray Adelman decided it would

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<v Speaker 1>be worth sending out a gentle warning to all the networks,

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<v Speaker 1>including Fox News, which had joined Venness after its founding

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety six. Adelman urged the networks to be

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<v Speaker 1>careful about calling races when the margin between two candidates

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<v Speaker 1>was half a percentage point or less. Adelman reminded the

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<v Speaker 1>networks that it was always possible for final vote totals

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<v Speaker 1>to shift slightly from where they stood at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the night. It happened with every election. Ballots would

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<v Speaker 1>get lost or found, Counting errors would be discovered, and

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<v Speaker 1>so on.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of ways you can have errors in

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<v Speaker 4>the vote code. The precincts have to count it right.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they have to get it to the county. The

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<v Speaker 4>county has to count it right. We have people there

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<v Speaker 4>getting it as it's being added up. They have to

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<v Speaker 4>report it right. The person has to enter it right.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of steps for error.

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<v Speaker 1>In his memo, Adelman gave historical examples of races where

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<v Speaker 1>the final vote total had shifted by half a percentage

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<v Speaker 1>point or more, even after most voting precincts had submitted

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<v Speaker 1>their tallies. His point was that with very close races,

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<v Speaker 1>it was better to wait and get it right than

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<v Speaker 1>to be first and get it wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what I sent out to everybody. I never

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<v Speaker 4>said don't call them. That wasn't my job. That would

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<v Speaker 4>have got me grief. I just said, just be very careful.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a warning submitted for the network's consideration. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>the networks owned vns. They didn't have to follow Aedelman's advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Aside from sounding the alarm, there wasn't really anything else

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<v Speaker 1>you could do. What happened next after the break.

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<v Speaker 7>Election day, the day to choose a new president for

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<v Speaker 7>a new censure as.

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<v Speaker 5>Voting continues literally at this hour, the candidates with the

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<v Speaker 5>major parties are right now at their home bases in

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<v Speaker 5>Tennessee and in Texas. They are waiting for the election

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<v Speaker 5>results to roll in.

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<v Speaker 1>On the afternoon of election day, George W. Bush was

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin working out at a gym at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas when he got a call from his chief

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<v Speaker 1>political advisor, Karl Rove. Rove was calling to brief his

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<v Speaker 1>candidate on the campaign's first wave of internal polls. Bush

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<v Speaker 1>did not like what he heard, and he confessed to

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<v Speaker 1>Rove that he could sense defeat in the air, what

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<v Speaker 1>he called the smell. Bush's campaign trajectory up to that

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<v Speaker 1>point had been jagged. He had started off with a

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable advantage over Gore, then fell behind, then vaulted ahead

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<v Speaker 1>again to a small lead going into November. Finally, a

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<v Speaker 1>few days before the election, the local Fox affiliate in Portland,

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<v Speaker 1>Maine reported that Bush had been arrested for drunk driving

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy six.

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<v Speaker 7>Bush swept across the battleground states.

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<v Speaker 9>Of the Midwest today, competing with front page stories about

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<v Speaker 9>his arrest.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously, there's a report out tonight that twenty four years ago,

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<v Speaker 8>I was apprehended in chenny Buckport, Maine for a DUI.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not proud of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I find interesting that four or five days before the

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<v Speaker 2>election is coming to the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>On election night, as polls around the country started to close,

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<v Speaker 1>Bush surrounded himself with his family to watch the returns

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<v Speaker 1>on TV from a suite in the Four Seasons Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>in downtown Austin. In addition to his wife Laura, his

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<v Speaker 1>mother Barbara, his sisters, and his daughters. Bush was joined

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<v Speaker 1>by his father, the former president, and his brother Jeb,

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<v Speaker 1>the governor of Florida. George Bush had watched both of

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<v Speaker 1>them lose big elections in the past, and as his

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<v Speaker 1>campaign wound down to its final hours, the contest looked

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<v Speaker 1>so excruciatingly close that he had no idea whether they

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<v Speaker 1>were about to see the same. Thing happened to him.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the closest election in a generation that we're going

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<v Speaker 7>to see in the course of this evening, whether in

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<v Speaker 7>fact it will live up to its billings.

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<v Speaker 14>If you've ever longed for those nights when people waited

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<v Speaker 14>late to find out who their leader was, pull up

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<v Speaker 14>a chair, this may be it.

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<v Speaker 1>By this point, Bush and his family had migrated to

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<v Speaker 1>the Shoreline Grill, a restaurant near the Four Seasons. There,

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<v Speaker 1>in a private dining room, Bush watched the news. A

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<v Speaker 1>little before seven o'clock Central time, NBC's decision desk made

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<v Speaker 1>a deeply disappointing call.

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<v Speaker 12>We're going to now project an important win for Vice

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<v Speaker 12>President Al Gore. NBC News projects that he wins the

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<v Speaker 12>twenty five electoral votes in the state of Florida. It

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<v Speaker 12>turns out that Governor Jeb Bush was not his brother's keeper.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush was once again hit with the smell of defeat.

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<v Speaker 1>Without Florida's twenty five electoral votes, his path to victory

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<v Speaker 1>was painfully narrow.

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<v Speaker 7>The top advisors are really crunching the numbers.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Florida is very important.

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<v Speaker 15>It is very, very dicey for George W. Bush to

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<v Speaker 15>win this election without Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>In order to stop Gore from getting to two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy votes in the electoral College, Bush would have

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<v Speaker 1>to win Pennsylvania, Missouri, and Michigan, an ambitious and unrealistic trifecta.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking tough for Bush.

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<v Speaker 15>If al Gore wins Pennsylvania in New Hampshire, then he

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<v Speaker 15>really only has to pick up one more state.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush stood stonefaced taking it in. His brother Jeb might

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<v Speaker 1>have felt even worse. Jeb Bush was the governor of

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<v Speaker 1>Florida for practically the entire campaign. It was assumed that

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<v Speaker 1>he would help deliver the state to the Bush Chainey ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>When all the networks, including Fox News, confirmed that Florida

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<v Speaker 1>was going for Gore, Jeb hugged George and said sorry, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>before leaving the restaurant. According to some reports, he had

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<v Speaker 1>tears in his eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the results in Florida have got to be

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<v Speaker 4>a bittersweet for the Bush family. Of course, the brother

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<v Speaker 4>of the governor sitting governor in Florida, that can't be

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<v Speaker 4>a happy one.

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<v Speaker 7>For the Bush family.

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<v Speaker 1>As the Bushes retreated to the Governor's mansion, the networks

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<v Speaker 1>continued delivering unwelcome news. First Michigan and Illinois went blue,

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<v Speaker 1>then Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 7>We now projected Pennsylvania. In fact, he is going to

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<v Speaker 7>go to mister Gore, so that gives him the Big three.

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<v Speaker 7>That gives him Florida and Michigan and Pennsylvania. Those were

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<v Speaker 7>the toughest battleground states of the year, and ABC News

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<v Speaker 7>now projects.

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<v Speaker 1>As the news came in, as Jeb Bush called his

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<v Speaker 1>cousin John Ellis in New York, this was not merely

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<v Speaker 1>a family check in. Ellis ran the decision desk at

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News, and he had been in regular communication with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bush family throughout the night. As Ellis looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the Florida numbers being pumped into Fox's computers by Murray

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<v Speaker 1>Adelman and VNS, he told his cousin Jeb that all

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<v Speaker 1>he saw was a screen full of Gore. Murray Adelman

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of the VNS team were working out

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<v Speaker 1>of temporary office space at the World Trade Center in

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan when NBC called Florida for Gore. Adelman looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers to see if he agreed with the projection.

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<v Speaker 1>After comparing VNS exit polls and incoming vote totals to

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<v Speaker 1>data on passed elections, Adelman concluded that the Florida call

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<v Speaker 1>was good. Though only four percent of the state's votes

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<v Speaker 1>have encountered, this was not a case of the networks

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<v Speaker 1>declaring a winner too quickly out of an unhealthy sense

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<v Speaker 1>of competition. The VNS model clearly showed that Gore was

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<v Speaker 1>going to win.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it was it looked really, really solid. It

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<v Speaker 4>was beyond a maybe, it was really solid, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I called it at seven fifty two PM, which I

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<v Speaker 4>called the pinnacle of my career. That was it was

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<v Speaker 4>all downhill after that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>On any given election day, the two campaigns battling for

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency revolve around two distinct centers of gravity. One

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<v Speaker 1>is composed of the candidate and his inner circle. The

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<v Speaker 1>other is a rapid response team staffed by political operatives,

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<v Speaker 1>polsters and campaign advisors. Their job is to gather information

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<v Speaker 1>about the race all through the day and night and

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<v Speaker 1>fight for any potential advantage they can find. Bush's rapid

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<v Speaker 1>response team was operating out of an office belonging to

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Rove. Stuart Stevens, a media consultant to Bush, spent

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<v Speaker 1>most of his evening in Rove's orbit worrying about the returns.

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<v Speaker 10>It was really tense, and there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>highs and lows, you know. The worst point was when

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<v Speaker 10>they called Florida for Gore.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the Bush team ever wallowed in despair over Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>they moved on quickly to indignation and outrage. For one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>they thought the networks were not giving enough weight to

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<v Speaker 1>absentee ballots, which the Bush campaign believed would favor them. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>NBC had called Florida around ten minutes before poles had

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<v Speaker 1>closed and the part of the state known as the Panhandle.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike the rest of Florida, the Panhandle was on Central Time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just so happened to be heavily Republican. Stuart

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<v Speaker 1>Stephens thought that by calling Florida for Gore before the

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<v Speaker 1>polls and the Panhandle had closed, the media was robbing

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<v Speaker 1>Bush of an unknowable number of votes.

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<v Speaker 10>You never can calculate what this means. But if you're

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<v Speaker 10>headed to the polls to vote in Florida for your

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<v Speaker 10>candidate and you hear on the radio that your canad

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<v Speaker 10>it's already lost Florida, it's not. I'm sorry to think

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<v Speaker 10>that you might turn around and go home because you're

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<v Speaker 10>both not going to matter.

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<v Speaker 1>There was something else bothering the Bush operatives too. According

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<v Speaker 1>to their internal polling numbers which they got from campaign

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<v Speaker 1>workers on the ground at which the TV news networks

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<v Speaker 1>did not have access to, the race in Florida was

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<v Speaker 1>way too close for anyone to say with confidence that

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<v Speaker 1>Gore was going to win. To Stevens Rove and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the Bush campaign, it seemed clear that the

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<v Speaker 1>networks had jumped the gun, so they went to work.

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<v Speaker 10>All these networks have political producers. You're calling them and saying, look,

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<v Speaker 10>we can't prove to you that we're going to win Florida,

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<v Speaker 10>but you can't prove to us we're going to lose Florida.

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<v Speaker 10>I think everybody was calling anybody you knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon Karl Rove in a parade of other Bush surrogates

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<v Speaker 1>were on live television making the campaign's case to the public.

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<v Speaker 14>Let me tell you, Bertie, you all called Florida before

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<v Speaker 14>Florida even closed its poll.

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<v Speaker 1>Florida's a state which some two times.

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<v Speaker 14>I've been asking all evening, Uh, how can you have

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<v Speaker 14>that many absentee ballots out and assume that Governor Bush

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<v Speaker 14>has lost a state?

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<v Speaker 6>And as you know, Karl, what are you suggesting, Mary,

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<v Speaker 6>that I'm suggesting when the real count isn't in the

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<v Speaker 6>absentee ballots are counted, that they are extensive in there,

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<v Speaker 6>and that day's going to flip.

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<v Speaker 5>I really feel that way now.

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<v Speaker 1>Having said that, at nine to fifty five Eastern time,

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<v Speaker 1>Bush himself came out and addressed the situation in Florida.

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<v Speaker 7>This is mister Bush at home or in a hotel,

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<v Speaker 7>to be honest, I've forgotten where I watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually presidential candidates stay out of public view on the

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<v Speaker 1>night of an election until it's time for someone to

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<v Speaker 1>concede and someone else to declare victory. Speaking from the

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<v Speaker 1>governor's mansion in Austin, Bush hit a note of unequivocal defiance.

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<v Speaker 1>Florida was still very much in play, and.

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<v Speaker 9>The network's call this thing awfully early, but the people

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<v Speaker 9>are actually counting the votes are coming up with a

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<v Speaker 9>little different perspective, and so pretty dawn out beat about things.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Governor Bush, pretty darn upbeat about this.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you we heard, he was spin. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was spin that Bush and his campaign staff sincerely believed.

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<v Speaker 1>Here again is Bush Media consultants, Stuart Stevens.

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<v Speaker 10>And there's a fog of war out there, and you're

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<v Speaker 10>trying to figure out past to victory. And I don't

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<v Speaker 10>think that we were overstating the case. What we were

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<v Speaker 10>saying was accurate. We were saying, you should just pull

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<v Speaker 10>it back, it's too close to call, which is a

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<v Speaker 10>pretty reasonable, as it turns out, very accurate request.

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<v Speaker 1>While the Bush team mobilized, a young researcher at NBC

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<v Speaker 1>News named Michelle Jaconi was also trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on in Florida. Jaconi worked on Meet

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<v Speaker 1>the Press. It was her first job out of college.

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<v Speaker 1>The show is based in DC, but for election night,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Russert and his staff were working out of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>Rockefeller Plaza in New York.

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<v Speaker 16>Meet the Press at that time was also the politics

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<v Speaker 16>and polling unit of NBC News. I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 16>a researcher, and it was a very tiny team. In

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<v Speaker 16>the res era of Meet the Press. There was five

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<v Speaker 16>to six of us, depending on the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacconi had spent the weeks leading up to election day

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<v Speaker 1>putting together a comprehensive guide to every notable race that

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<v Speaker 1>might come up during live coverage. As part of her

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<v Speaker 1>research on Florida, she discovered that the Florida Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>State's office was going to be posting raw vote totals

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<v Speaker 1>on its website in real time as ballots were being counted.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacony was delighted by this high tech act of transparency,

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<v Speaker 1>but what she saw when she looked at the website

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<v Speaker 1>on election night made her very uneasy.

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<v Speaker 16>I just remembered it was so close, and then I

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<v Speaker 16>thought they must know something about the outstanding vote that

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<v Speaker 16>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>What Jacconi saw in these numbers was that, for the

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<v Speaker 1>time being, Bush had a slight lead over Gore in

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<v Speaker 1>the raw vote total. At seven forty nine pm, when

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<v Speaker 1>NBC projected that Gore was going to win Florida, Bush

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<v Speaker 1>was actually up by a few percentage points. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>VNS and the networks believed Gore was going to win

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<v Speaker 1>was that, according to their models, the as yet uncounted

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<v Speaker 1>votes would favor Gore and eventually put him ahead. But

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<v Speaker 1>the longer Jaconi looked at the incoming vote totals online,

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<v Speaker 1>the more uncertain she was that Gore was actually poised

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<v Speaker 1>to overtake Bush's lead. Meanwhile, all the news anchors, including

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<v Speaker 1>Jacconi's boss Tim Russert, were still saying Gore was going

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<v Speaker 1>to carry the state.

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<v Speaker 15>AEP balanced. But I think the networks have all taken

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<v Speaker 15>their time and making this projection. If it's wrong, will

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<v Speaker 15>be the first to admit it. And obviously the information

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<v Speaker 15>that mister Reill provided will be factored in. There was calculation,

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<v Speaker 15>but every network looked at this based on the samplings

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<v Speaker 15>we're getting and awarded it to Vice President Gore.

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<v Speaker 16>I just remembered being petrified for my boss being on

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<v Speaker 16>air and not knowing if information given to him was.

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<v Speaker 1>Accurate or not.

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<v Speaker 16>I thought that they put a story to bed that

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<v Speaker 16>should not have been put to bed, and I was

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<v Speaker 16>scared that the reputation of my boss was on the line.

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<v Speaker 16>And I just was scared.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jacony was also kind of excited. She had studied

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<v Speaker 1>Florida election law, and she had learned that when the

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<v Speaker 1>margin between two candidates was half a percentage point or less,

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<v Speaker 1>it triggered an automatic statewide recount of all ballots.

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<v Speaker 16>I just remember that word trigger triggered an automatic recount

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<v Speaker 16>right within point five percent, meaning that nobody would have

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<v Speaker 16>to ask for a recount, that it would be automatic

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<v Speaker 16>based on how people marked their ballots, and that I

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<v Speaker 16>just thought, what a fascinating scenario if that were to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Back at VNS headquarters, Murray Aidelman was focused on just

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<v Speaker 1>about everything but Florida. He had called the state hours earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had moved on. But then, what was the

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<v Speaker 1>first indication that there was something wrong with the numbers?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the first indication was when I got a call

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<v Speaker 4>from Warren.

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<v Speaker 1>Warren, as you'll recall, was Aidelman's longtime colleague, Warren Ntowski.

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<v Speaker 1>He had left Voter News Service after the ninety two

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<v Speaker 1>election and was now calling races for CBS and CNN.

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<v Speaker 1>After Mitowski's departure, Adelman had been handed the reins to

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<v Speaker 1>the VNS projections operation for the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>He wanted to take me with it, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't go because I had been under a shadow

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<v Speaker 4>for my whole career pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Adelman's former mentor was on the phone demanding to

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<v Speaker 1>know what VNS was doing about Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. He started off saying, have you been watching Florida?

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<v Speaker 4>I said, nowhere, and I've got a thousand other things

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<v Speaker 4>to do right now. He said, well, well take a

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<v Speaker 4>look at it, because the status has gone down.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the VNS projection model, Gore and Bush were

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<v Speaker 1>now neck and neck. But Adelman didn't think the call

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be pulled back yet, And when Matoski called

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<v Speaker 1>him a second time, Adelman told him so.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, well, I've got people looking into it.

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<v Speaker 4>And he said, well, I think we should retract the call.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, I'm not ready to do that yet.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mitofski felt strongly that the Florida call needed to

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<v Speaker 1>be retracted. At nine fifty four PM, he sent his

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<v Speaker 1>decision to the producers he was working with at CBS

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<v Speaker 1>and CNN. He attached an explanation, we don't entirely trust

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<v Speaker 1>all the information we have in from VNS. Dan rather

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<v Speaker 1>delivered the news on the air moments later.

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<v Speaker 2>This knockdown, drag out battle drags on into the night

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<v Speaker 2>and turned the lights down. The party just got wilder.

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<v Speaker 2>Florida comes out of the Gore column, back up in

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<v Speaker 2>the air, there's dose.

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<v Speaker 1>ABC and Fox News pulled Florida out of the Gore category.

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<v Speaker 7>Next, we now believe that the state of Florida is

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<v Speaker 7>too close to call. We and most other news services

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<v Speaker 7>had called it for mister Gore. We now believe it

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<v Speaker 7>is too close to call. It's always been the biggest

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<v Speaker 7>state for the racist cloth.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, at ten fifteen PM, Adelman concluded that he needed

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<v Speaker 1>to pull back Florida two. Typing into his terminal, he

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<v Speaker 1>informed the networks that VNS was retracting its call. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the confidence we did, he wrote.

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<v Speaker 4>I think for me it was partly not wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>see it. Yeah, what, Ian, Well do you ever like

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<v Speaker 4>saying you're wrong? I mean, it's not fun and you

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<v Speaker 4>get this really heavy, failing so real. I don't recommend.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a really awful feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Adelman wasn't sad because he wanted Gore to win the election.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because his numbers, the projections generated by his VNS model,

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<v Speaker 1>had been wrong. Remember, before the election, Adelman was worried

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<v Speaker 1>that the networks would be irresponsible and call races before

0:28:15.150 --> 0:28:19.071
<v Speaker 1>they were ready. But this this was his data, his

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<v Speaker 1>exit polls, his vote tallies, that had led the networks

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<v Speaker 1>to incorrectly call one of the most important states in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. And maybe worst of all, Aedelman didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know what had caused the error.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't really know what happened. We just know that

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<v Speaker 4>the estimate changed as more information came in. We didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know where the problem was.

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<v Speaker 1>Adelman told me that you could only compare the feeling

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<v Speaker 1>to one thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You must have had the feeling when you found someone died.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you don't quite believe it at first, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like sometimes I've said you're kidding or some stupid thing

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<v Speaker 4>like that, but like I didn't don't quite believe it

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<v Speaker 4>at first, and then it just starts the reality comes

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<v Speaker 4>over your whole body. Oh, it was like that. I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, it made a really big mistake and

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<v Speaker 4>that was hard. You know, that was hard to deal with.

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<v Speaker 5>Candy Crowley joins us from Austin the Candy.

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<v Speaker 7>I think you can hear the crowd reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>They're obviously very energized in this crowd.

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<v Speaker 17>I'm not going to assure you in the Bush campaign,

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<v Speaker 17>well we knew.

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<v Speaker 1>While the Bush team celebrated their attracted Florida call in Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>al Gore's staff was recovering from shock. The nerve center

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<v Speaker 1>of the Gore operation was in a single story building

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<v Speaker 1>in Nashville, where a team of data analysts and operatives

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<v Speaker 1>worked in a windowless space known internally as the boiler room.

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<v Speaker 17>It's kept very separate from the candidate. You're not going

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<v Speaker 17>to ever see the candidate in the boiler room. This

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<v Speaker 17>is really the turnout operation, where we're tracking what's coming

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<v Speaker 17>in from the states, and we're feeding it in and

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<v Speaker 17>we're making decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny Beckis was the communications officer for the Democratic National Committee.

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<v Speaker 1>She spent election day giving input on get out the

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<v Speaker 1>vote efforts and talking to reporters about how various states

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<v Speaker 1>were looking earlier in the day, Long before she turned

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<v Speaker 1>her attention to Florida backus's primary concern had been a

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<v Speaker 1>snowstorm in New Mexico that had the potential to affect

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<v Speaker 1>voter turnout.

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<v Speaker 17>Snow in New Mexico was like a big, big thing

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<v Speaker 17>that was in our heads. But I remember, like I

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<v Speaker 17>was really confident that we had been smart and strategic

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<v Speaker 17>about where we had resources, and I think Gore closed

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<v Speaker 17>pretty strong.

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<v Speaker 1>As Gore racked up one battleground state after another, many

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<v Speaker 1>of the donors and prominent supporters who had been hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out at the campaign headquarters left the building to start celebrating.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing that Gore would be giving his victory speech at

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<v Speaker 1>the War Memorial Auditorium in downtown Nashville, they headed there

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<v Speaker 1>to wait for his win to become official.

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<v Speaker 17>If you're about to have somebody win the presidency, its

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<v Speaker 17>power closest to the throne. So a lot of people

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<v Speaker 17>had just wanted to be at the hotel or at

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<v Speaker 17>the War Memorial because that's where Gore was, and if

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<v Speaker 17>Gore wins, they're close. The rest of us are in

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<v Speaker 17>a closet trying to figure out what's happening in the snow.

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<v Speaker 1>In New Mexico, there had been a sense in the

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<v Speaker 1>boiler room that the Florida call for Gore might be shaky,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still came as a crushing disappointment when the

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<v Speaker 1>network's and VNS pulled it back of.

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<v Speaker 17>Stomach fell out. Everyone was like, where can we find

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<v Speaker 17>the votes? What's not out? What's still, everyone was starting

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<v Speaker 17>to say, Okay, if we don't win Florida, how do

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<v Speaker 17>we win this thing?

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<v Speaker 14>If you take twenty five votes away from al Gore

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<v Speaker 14>and put it in the underside of column, should they

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<v Speaker 14>break for Bush? The entire calculation of the last hour

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<v Speaker 14>and a half, it changes dramatically.

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<v Speaker 1>Bacchus and her colleague started contacting voting precincts and swing

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<v Speaker 1>states around the country. They were looking for updated vote tallies,

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<v Speaker 1>desperately trying to figure out if there was a pathway

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<v Speaker 1>to victory that did not include Florida.

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<v Speaker 17>New Mexico hadn't closed, and Nevada was still out there,

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<v Speaker 17>and so there were little slivers of hope still going on,

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<v Speaker 17>and Wisconsin was still really close, so we could still win.

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<v Speaker 17>We could win on the other path, and we were

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<v Speaker 17>waiting to see if we were going to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>But as the night stretched on, it became increasingly clear

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<v Speaker 1>that it was going to be Florida or nothing. Because

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<v Speaker 1>of how the other swing states broke. Neither candidate could

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<v Speaker 1>get the two hundred and seventy electoral College votes without

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<v Speaker 1>winning Florida's twenty five.

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<v Speaker 7>It could still go either way.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bush people think they'll win it on the strength

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<v Speaker 2>of absentee ballots. The Gore people think they'll win it

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<v Speaker 2>because they ran so strong in Southeast Florida.

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<v Speaker 12>All the chips have been pushed out of the map

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<v Speaker 12>down in the southeastern corner of the state of Florida.

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<v Speaker 12>There's a big, big stack of chips in that state.

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<v Speaker 12>Both candidates are counting on winning it because that could

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<v Speaker 12>get them to where they need to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>A little after two am, the VNS projection model was

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<v Speaker 1>showing that Bush was going to win Florida by twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand votes, the exact margin that Murray Adelman had

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<v Speaker 1>warned about in his memo. By this point, ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>percent of Florida's votes have been counted. The head of

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<v Speaker 1>the projection of the desk at NBC News called Adelman

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<v Speaker 1>to ask if it was time to pull the trigger

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<v Speaker 1>for Bush.

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<v Speaker 4>And he said, what do you think we're thinking of

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<v Speaker 4>calling it? And I said, did you read my memo?

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<v Speaker 4>And before he really got to answer than that, he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>Fox just called it. I gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>It was two sixteen am when Fox News reported that

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<v Speaker 1>George W. Bush was the projected winner in Florida.

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<v Speaker 7>Fox is now projects George W.

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<v Speaker 11>Bush the winner in Florida, and thus it appears the

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<v Speaker 11>winner of the presidency of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Fox's call had been ordered by the head of the

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<v Speaker 1>network's decision desk, George Bush's cousin John Ellis. Within minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>the call was backed up by NBC, CBS, CNN, and ABC.

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<v Speaker 12>George Bush is the president of elect of the United States.

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<v Speaker 12>He has won the state of Florida. According to our projections.

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<v Speaker 2>Florida goes Busch. The presidency is Bush.

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<v Speaker 7>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's pause for a second. Let that sink in. Bush

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<v Speaker 2>wins if our CBS News.

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<v Speaker 1>As the election was over, George W. Bush was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be president.

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<v Speaker 12>The scene in Austin, Texas tonight, It's been a long,

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<v Speaker 12>suspenseful evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Adelman declined to join the networks and projecting Florida

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<v Speaker 1>for Bush. The margin was just too narrow, so as

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<v Speaker 1>the calls came down, VNS stayed on the sidelines. Dlman

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think he had any other options.

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<v Speaker 4>If I put a message out, what am I going

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<v Speaker 4>to say? I think this was a bad call. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you really want to do that to four out of

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<v Speaker 4>the six people that pay your salary? You know, that's

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to do that, so I didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>At his hotel suite in Nashville, al Gore was lying

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor watching television in silence when he saw

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<v Speaker 1>the networks flash their pre made banners that said President

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<v Speaker 1>elect George W. Bush. Gore turned to his staff and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really grateful to you all. I want to concede.

0:35:00.631 --> 0:35:04.311
<v Speaker 1>I want to be gracious about this. At around two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty in the morning, Gore called Bush on the phone

0:35:07.551 --> 0:35:11.151
<v Speaker 1>and congratulated him on his victory. Then he got into

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<v Speaker 1>the limo that would drive him to the War Memorial

0:35:13.551 --> 0:35:15.151
<v Speaker 1>for what would be his concession speech.

0:35:15.671 --> 0:35:19.950
<v Speaker 5>Al Gore called George Bush on the telephone, congratulated him,

0:35:20.311 --> 0:35:24.271
<v Speaker 5>said he'd run a good campaign, words to that effect.

0:35:24.511 --> 0:35:26.991
<v Speaker 1>Gore's decision to concede was made so quickly that no

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<v Speaker 1>one from the candidate's inner circle had checked in with

0:35:29.111 --> 0:35:31.671
<v Speaker 1>Jenny Backus or the others still working in the boiler room.

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<v Speaker 17>It was maybe fifteen of us in the room at

0:35:34.551 --> 0:35:37.790
<v Speaker 17>that point because everyone was leaving to go down, but

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<v Speaker 17>Michael wasn't coming out of that room yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael was Michael Hooley, a Boston lawyer who was overseeing

0:35:43.471 --> 0:35:46.911
<v Speaker 1>the boiler room operation. Hooley's contact in Florida was a

0:35:46.951 --> 0:35:50.071
<v Speaker 1>field operative named Nick Baldick, and Nick Baldick had been

0:35:50.071 --> 0:35:53.551
<v Speaker 1>watching Bush's lead in the vote total steadily drop. Just

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<v Speaker 1>after three am, Bush was up by just forty six

0:35:56.230 --> 0:35:59.591
<v Speaker 1>hundred votes, a margin so narrow that, according to Florida law,

0:35:59.791 --> 0:36:01.750
<v Speaker 1>the race was headed for an automatic recount.

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<v Speaker 17>Michael said, you know, get in here like so I

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<v Speaker 17>went into the room. He put a Nick on speakerphone. Nick'

0:36:08.351 --> 0:36:12.671
<v Speaker 17>said Michael, we could win this. We should not be quitting.

0:36:13.190 --> 0:36:14.230
<v Speaker 17>You need to stop this.

0:36:16.071 --> 0:36:19.230
<v Speaker 1>Hooley, Bacchus and their colleagues rushed to contact anyone they

0:36:19.311 --> 0:36:21.911
<v Speaker 1>knew who might be with the vice president. The problem

0:36:21.951 --> 0:36:24.271
<v Speaker 1>was that he was already in transit, and they didn't

0:36:24.270 --> 0:36:26.310
<v Speaker 1>know exactly where he was or how to reach him.

0:36:26.631 --> 0:36:29.350
<v Speaker 17>We were not really paying attention to Gore. We were

0:36:29.471 --> 0:36:32.230
<v Speaker 17>so wrapped up in what they were saying about those

0:36:32.311 --> 0:36:35.911
<v Speaker 17>numbers and like it may not be over, and like

0:36:36.111 --> 0:36:38.230
<v Speaker 17>trying to do the math a hundred different ways. It

0:36:38.270 --> 0:36:39.991
<v Speaker 17>might not have occurred to Michael that he was actually

0:36:40.031 --> 0:36:42.790
<v Speaker 17>in the car, but we knew we had to get

0:36:42.831 --> 0:36:45.591
<v Speaker 17>to him. Like Gores going down to the motorcade and

0:36:45.631 --> 0:36:48.511
<v Speaker 17>their drive. You know, like it's all happening on live television.

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<v Speaker 7>How Gored now on his way to the War Memorial

0:36:52.831 --> 0:36:55.071
<v Speaker 7>Auditory of the vice presidential motorcade moving.

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<v Speaker 15>You just can't help but think that looks more like

0:36:57.190 --> 0:36:59.911
<v Speaker 15>a funeral procession tonight in a political procession.

0:37:00.151 --> 0:37:02.951
<v Speaker 1>Finally, Michael Hooley got word to a Gore aid who

0:37:02.991 --> 0:37:05.151
<v Speaker 1>was able to intercept the Vice president before he went

0:37:05.190 --> 0:37:08.991
<v Speaker 1>out on stage. Meanwhile, Beckus started calling everyone she knew

0:37:08.991 --> 0:37:10.951
<v Speaker 1>at the networks if she wanted to tell them that,

0:37:10.991 --> 0:37:14.591
<v Speaker 1>despite their earlier proclamations about Bush being president elect, Gore

0:37:14.710 --> 0:37:19.350
<v Speaker 1>was no longer planning to give up the fight. What

0:37:19.431 --> 0:37:28.391
<v Speaker 1>happens next after the break the first person Backus reached

0:37:28.431 --> 0:37:31.911
<v Speaker 1>with Michelle Jaconi, the young researcher at NBC who had

0:37:31.911 --> 0:37:35.151
<v Speaker 1>been obsessively watching Florida all night. She and Beachus had

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<v Speaker 1>first encountered each other while Jacony was doing her research

0:37:37.671 --> 0:37:38.991
<v Speaker 1>in preparation for election day.

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<v Speaker 16>And she says, Michelle, stop that reporting right now. I

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<v Speaker 16>can assuredly say al Gore is not going to concede.

0:37:46.551 --> 0:37:48.951
<v Speaker 16>And I said, can I report that on the record?

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<v Speaker 1>And she says yes, Jacconi rushed into the control room

0:37:52.591 --> 0:37:55.391
<v Speaker 1>and ran to the producer who was directing coverage future

0:37:55.431 --> 0:37:56.951
<v Speaker 1>CNN president Jeff Zucker.

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<v Speaker 16>My heart now is beating so fast and running outside

0:38:00.551 --> 0:38:02.270
<v Speaker 16>of the room, screaming into the phone. Now everybody in

0:38:02.311 --> 0:38:04.591
<v Speaker 16>the room is looking at me. I ducked down the hallway,

0:38:04.710 --> 0:38:07.471
<v Speaker 16>run into the control room, which is pitch black. Everybody

0:38:07.471 --> 0:38:10.430
<v Speaker 16>has headsets on except for Jeff Sucker. And Jeff'sucker, who's

0:38:10.471 --> 0:38:14.310
<v Speaker 16>running coverage, is standing up pacing, and I look at him,

0:38:14.351 --> 0:38:16.031
<v Speaker 16>and I have the phone to my ear, and I said,

0:38:16.511 --> 0:38:20.351
<v Speaker 16>al Gore is not going to concede. And he stops,

0:38:20.471 --> 0:38:24.031
<v Speaker 16>and he grabs my shirt and says, can I report that.

0:38:27.710 --> 0:38:30.510
<v Speaker 1>Jenny Bachus was watching the NBC newscast from the Gore

0:38:30.551 --> 0:38:34.551
<v Speaker 1>boiler room. By this point, Tom Brokaw and Tim Russard

0:38:34.551 --> 0:38:36.711
<v Speaker 1>had been making note of the razor thin margin between

0:38:36.710 --> 0:38:39.671
<v Speaker 1>Gore and Bush and wondering aloud why Bush had not

0:38:39.750 --> 0:38:41.511
<v Speaker 1>yet come out to deliver his victory speech.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm curious about why we're not seeing the governor yet.

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<v Speaker 1>They also began to familiarize themselves with the intricacies of

0:38:46.511 --> 0:38:49.311
<v Speaker 1>Florida election law, starting with the fact that the state's

0:38:49.311 --> 0:38:51.510
<v Speaker 1>top election official was the secretary of state.

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<v Speaker 12>Will someone find out for me whether the Secretary of

0:38:53.710 --> 0:38:57.471
<v Speaker 12>State is a Democrat or a Republican? Okay, he's a

0:38:57.471 --> 0:38:59.631
<v Speaker 12>Democrat or she is? Is it a man?

0:38:59.791 --> 0:38:59.911
<v Speaker 10>Who?

0:38:59.991 --> 0:39:02.310
<v Speaker 12>Do we know who that secretary of State is? Let's

0:39:02.311 --> 0:39:03.631
<v Speaker 12>try to find that out if we can.

0:39:03.671 --> 0:39:04.830
<v Speaker 15>Maybe we could talk to him or her.

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<v Speaker 12>Keep Yeah, we're working on that, We're told in the control.

0:39:08.190 --> 0:39:11.471
<v Speaker 1>Room, phone calls were flying between the network and the campaign.

0:39:12.631 --> 0:39:16.111
<v Speaker 1>Then an NBC reporter stationed in Nashville delivered the latest.

0:39:16.750 --> 0:39:19.270
<v Speaker 1>Gore had placed a second call to George Bush and

0:39:19.311 --> 0:39:20.831
<v Speaker 1>he had taken back his concession.

0:39:21.071 --> 0:39:25.830
<v Speaker 12>Claire ship and what do you have for US's.

0:39:24.031 --> 0:39:25.391
<v Speaker 4>How long we're hearing tonight?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it one of the reasons for al Gore's delay?

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<v Speaker 13>This is, according to some of his low level staffers,

0:39:30.871 --> 0:39:32.671
<v Speaker 13>as if he is actually.

0:39:32.311 --> 0:39:33.511
<v Speaker 16>Called George W.

0:39:33.591 --> 0:39:40.031
<v Speaker 4>Bush and taken back concession bone call, so an extraordinary move.

0:39:41.071 --> 0:39:42.711
<v Speaker 1>It was at around three point thirty in the morning

0:39:42.750 --> 0:39:45.230
<v Speaker 1>when al Gore placed that second call to George W.

0:39:45.311 --> 0:39:49.391
<v Speaker 1>Bush and retracted his concession. At four am, Gore's campaign

0:39:49.471 --> 0:39:52.511
<v Speaker 1>chairman Bill Day addressed the crowd of supporters gathered at

0:39:52.511 --> 0:39:53.190
<v Speaker 1>the War Memorial.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll let me say I've been in politics a very

0:39:56.471 --> 0:39:58.871
<v Speaker 3>long time, but I don't think there's ever been a

0:39:58.951 --> 0:40:03.790
<v Speaker 3>night like this one. Just an hour or so ago,

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<v Speaker 3>the TV networks called this race for Governor Bush. It

0:40:08.631 --> 0:40:13.031
<v Speaker 3>now appears, it now appears that their call was premature.

0:40:15.471 --> 0:40:19.390
<v Speaker 3>This is a very significant for most important reason, and

0:40:19.431 --> 0:40:23.031
<v Speaker 3>that is for under Florida state law, this triggers in

0:40:23.071 --> 0:40:27.551
<v Speaker 3>an automatic recount, and until the results in Florida become official,

0:40:28.151 --> 0:40:29.790
<v Speaker 3>our campaign continues.

0:40:31.351 --> 0:40:34.270
<v Speaker 1>On TV news, anchors tried to summon whatever authority they

0:40:34.311 --> 0:40:36.910
<v Speaker 1>had left to explain that Florida was once again being

0:40:36.911 --> 0:40:37.470
<v Speaker 1>pulled back.

0:40:37.710 --> 0:40:38.111
<v Speaker 10>I thank you.

0:40:38.351 --> 0:40:40.631
<v Speaker 2>I'm always reminded of those West Texas saloons where the

0:40:40.710 --> 0:40:43.031
<v Speaker 2>head a sign says, please don't shoot the piano player.

0:40:43.071 --> 0:40:45.270
<v Speaker 2>He's doing the best he can. And we do the

0:40:45.311 --> 0:40:48.270
<v Speaker 2>best we can on these calls. But we have to

0:40:48.311 --> 0:40:49.471
<v Speaker 2>stand up and take.

0:40:49.551 --> 0:40:52.071
<v Speaker 1>At Gore Headquarters, the boiler room that had been nearly

0:40:52.111 --> 0:40:55.350
<v Speaker 1>empty just a few minutes earlier slowly began to repopulate

0:40:55.391 --> 0:40:58.791
<v Speaker 1>with stunned campaign staffers. Here's Jenny Beckett again.

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<v Speaker 17>So some people start coming back, and they've been drinking,

0:41:01.151 --> 0:41:02.951
<v Speaker 17>and like they smelled a little bit like they had

0:41:02.991 --> 0:41:05.431
<v Speaker 17>been like, you know, having a bunch of beers moaning

0:41:05.431 --> 0:41:07.151
<v Speaker 17>the loss of the campaign, and then all of a sudden,

0:41:07.151 --> 0:41:08.991
<v Speaker 17>they're sort of like, oh my god, you sort of

0:41:09.031 --> 0:41:12.190
<v Speaker 17>have already mentally processed. I've played this game, I did

0:41:12.190 --> 0:41:14.471
<v Speaker 17>my best. All right, fine, I'm gonna drive my sorrows.

0:41:14.511 --> 0:41:16.270
<v Speaker 17>And then all of since, oops, I'm not gonna dry

0:41:16.351 --> 0:41:18.390
<v Speaker 17>my sorrows. I still have another two innings to play

0:41:18.511 --> 0:41:21.511
<v Speaker 17>or overtime. We're in overtime. That's what we were.

0:41:21.511 --> 0:41:25.751
<v Speaker 1>We're in overtime. If the Gore campaign in Nashville was euphoric,

0:41:26.071 --> 0:41:28.471
<v Speaker 1>their counterparts at Bush headquarters in Austin felt like they

0:41:28.511 --> 0:41:32.071
<v Speaker 1>had been hit by a truck. Everyone was exhausted and deflated,

0:41:32.750 --> 0:41:35.871
<v Speaker 1>and now the race wasn't even over here again is

0:41:35.911 --> 0:41:37.910
<v Speaker 1>Bush Media Consultants Stuart Stevens.

0:41:38.111 --> 0:41:39.830
<v Speaker 10>It's a weird feeling. I mean, you're prepared to win,

0:41:39.871 --> 0:41:41.631
<v Speaker 10>you're prepared to lose. To weird feeling.

0:41:42.631 --> 0:41:42.790
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:41:42.831 --> 0:41:44.750
<v Speaker 10>I've been doing campaigns for a long time. I'm used

0:41:44.750 --> 0:41:48.270
<v Speaker 10>to that end of the world feeling when campaigns in

0:41:49.471 --> 0:41:53.111
<v Speaker 10>win or lose. I look forward to that. But this

0:41:53.311 --> 0:41:58.671
<v Speaker 10>was purgatory. It's like you know, watching a loved one

0:41:58.791 --> 0:42:00.750
<v Speaker 10>like go into the emergency room and wondering if they're

0:42:00.791 --> 0:42:03.551
<v Speaker 10>going to come out. It's like nothing you can do.

0:42:07.791 --> 0:42:10.551
<v Speaker 1>Over the next thirty six days, both sides would blame

0:42:10.551 --> 0:42:12.671
<v Speaker 1>the TV networks for stacking the decks against them with

0:42:12.710 --> 0:42:15.831
<v Speaker 1>their coverage of election night. The Bush side blamed NBC

0:42:15.991 --> 0:42:18.591
<v Speaker 1>for calling Florida before the polls were closed in the Panhandle.

0:42:19.270 --> 0:42:22.511
<v Speaker 1>The Gore side blamed Fox, especially John Ellis, for giving

0:42:22.511 --> 0:42:25.031
<v Speaker 1>Bush a temporary victory and setting up the narrative that

0:42:25.071 --> 0:42:27.391
<v Speaker 1>Gore was a sore loser trying to overturn the election.

0:42:28.270 --> 0:42:30.591
<v Speaker 1>As far apart as they wore on most issues, the

0:42:30.591 --> 0:42:33.871
<v Speaker 1>two campaigns agreed on this one thing. What the networks

0:42:33.871 --> 0:42:37.431
<v Speaker 1>did on Election Night two thousand had real world consequences.

0:42:37.991 --> 0:42:40.951
<v Speaker 17>The irony was as much as we honestly believe that

0:42:40.951 --> 0:42:42.791
<v Speaker 17>you don't want elections, so you have all the numbers.

0:42:43.151 --> 0:42:45.071
<v Speaker 17>In some ways, you can win or lose an election

0:42:45.991 --> 0:42:47.270
<v Speaker 17>based on what the TVs say.

0:42:48.511 --> 0:42:50.151
<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to think about what Backus might have

0:42:50.190 --> 0:42:52.711
<v Speaker 1>meant by that. On the face of it, it shouldn't

0:42:52.750 --> 0:42:54.471
<v Speaker 1>be possible for the outcome of an election to be

0:42:54.471 --> 0:42:56.430
<v Speaker 1>determined by what people are saying about it on TV.

0:42:57.471 --> 0:42:59.230
<v Speaker 1>The cause and effect arrow is supposed to point the

0:42:59.311 --> 0:43:02.391
<v Speaker 1>other way. First, the outcome is determined, and then the

0:43:02.391 --> 0:43:04.430
<v Speaker 1>people on TV try to explain why it came out

0:43:04.431 --> 0:43:07.190
<v Speaker 1>the way it did. The two thousand election and its

0:43:07.190 --> 0:43:11.270
<v Speaker 1>agonizing aftermath tested that natural state of affair. Starting with

0:43:11.351 --> 0:43:14.551
<v Speaker 1>Election Night, both campaigns had to ask themselves did the

0:43:14.631 --> 0:43:16.951
<v Speaker 1>narrative that emerged from media coverage have any bearing on

0:43:16.991 --> 0:43:18.591
<v Speaker 1>who got to be president? At the end of the story.

0:43:19.270 --> 0:43:21.310
<v Speaker 1>Did it matter what reporters and pundits said about what

0:43:21.391 --> 0:43:25.470
<v Speaker 1>was happening. It seems obvious there's a feedback loop between

0:43:25.511 --> 0:43:29.071
<v Speaker 1>perception and reality, but how that feedback loop actually works

0:43:29.151 --> 0:43:31.951
<v Speaker 1>is not self evident. What were the consequences of the

0:43:31.951 --> 0:43:34.151
<v Speaker 1>TV networks showing those graphics at two thirty in the

0:43:34.190 --> 0:43:36.671
<v Speaker 1>morning that said George W. Bush was the forty third

0:43:36.671 --> 0:43:39.591
<v Speaker 1>president of the United States. Did the fact that Bush

0:43:39.631 --> 0:43:43.190
<v Speaker 1>won and then unwon after Gore unconceded shape the way

0:43:43.230 --> 0:43:46.111
<v Speaker 1>the next thirty six days played out. I don't have

0:43:46.111 --> 0:43:49.230
<v Speaker 1>any definitive answers here, but I do see one way

0:43:49.270 --> 0:43:51.551
<v Speaker 1>in which the coverage of Election Knight had an unmistakable

0:43:51.591 --> 0:43:54.790
<v Speaker 1>impact on everything that came after. Between the Gore call

0:43:54.831 --> 0:43:56.870
<v Speaker 1>that turned out to be wrong and then the Bush

0:43:56.911 --> 0:43:59.351
<v Speaker 1>call that also turned out to be wrong, the American

0:43:59.351 --> 0:44:01.910
<v Speaker 1>people witnessed mistakes that had never been made on such

0:44:01.911 --> 0:44:06.551
<v Speaker 1>a spectacular scale before. And these mistakes were destabilizing, not

0:44:06.631 --> 0:44:09.350
<v Speaker 1>because they made everyone feel like they couldn't trust Tom Brokaw,

0:44:09.671 --> 0:44:12.031
<v Speaker 1>but because as they expanded the range of what was possible,

0:44:12.710 --> 0:44:15.230
<v Speaker 1>they underscored the futility of trying to predict what would

0:44:15.270 --> 0:44:22.871
<v Speaker 1>happen next. Murray Aidelman still vividly remembers the aftermath of

0:44:22.871 --> 0:44:25.551
<v Speaker 1>that night when the projection model he'd been using since

0:44:25.631 --> 0:44:29.071
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven went wobbly on him. He remembers it

0:44:29.111 --> 0:44:30.350
<v Speaker 1>as a turning point in his life.

0:44:30.951 --> 0:44:34.310
<v Speaker 4>I just remember having this really big heaviness over my

0:44:34.391 --> 0:44:40.631
<v Speaker 4>body and just so so depressed, and you know, it's

0:44:40.710 --> 0:44:45.310
<v Speaker 4>like these things used and counted on and suddenly they

0:44:45.351 --> 0:44:47.350
<v Speaker 4>all turned, you know.

0:44:48.991 --> 0:44:53.631
<v Speaker 1>After the election, vns's exit polling operation was widely blamed

0:44:53.671 --> 0:44:57.031
<v Speaker 1>for the blown calls in Florida. Adelman knew it wasn't

0:44:57.031 --> 0:44:59.830
<v Speaker 1>that simple. His exit poll in Florida had in fact

0:44:59.831 --> 0:45:03.390
<v Speaker 1>performed well. The survey results were within the margin of error.

0:45:04.351 --> 0:45:06.111
<v Speaker 1>It was just that the error in the exit poll

0:45:06.431 --> 0:45:08.551
<v Speaker 1>and the raw vote totals that came in early in

0:45:08.591 --> 0:45:12.750
<v Speaker 1>the evening both have and to favor Gore. Separately, the

0:45:12.831 --> 0:45:15.671
<v Speaker 1>vn S model had underestimated the number of absentee ballots,

0:45:15.710 --> 0:45:19.671
<v Speaker 1>which favored Bush. All that created what Aidelman now calls

0:45:19.791 --> 0:45:24.151
<v Speaker 1>a perfect storm. At the time, Aidelman was unable to

0:45:24.190 --> 0:45:26.471
<v Speaker 1>respond to the criticism of his exit polls because the

0:45:26.511 --> 0:45:28.991
<v Speaker 1>networks that paid his salary had instructed him not to comment.

0:45:29.791 --> 0:45:33.271
<v Speaker 1>It was painful for him. Adelman really believed in exit polls,

0:45:33.671 --> 0:45:36.190
<v Speaker 1>both as an analytical tool and as a means of

0:45:36.190 --> 0:45:40.190
<v Speaker 1>giving voice to demographic groups. During the nineties, Adelman had

0:45:40.230 --> 0:45:42.510
<v Speaker 1>pushed for VNS exit polls to include a question about

0:45:42.511 --> 0:45:46.351
<v Speaker 1>sexual orientation, a move that helped establish the LGBT community

0:45:46.391 --> 0:45:51.271
<v Speaker 1>as a political constituency with quantifiable voting power. In any event,

0:45:51.911 --> 0:45:54.750
<v Speaker 1>exit polls only contributed to the first Florida call, the

0:45:54.750 --> 0:45:57.991
<v Speaker 1>one for Gore. The later call, the one for Bush,

0:45:58.511 --> 0:46:00.271
<v Speaker 1>turned out to have been the result of a crucial

0:46:00.351 --> 0:46:03.551
<v Speaker 1>data entry error that inflated Bush's lead by twenty two

0:46:03.591 --> 0:46:06.871
<v Speaker 1>thousand votes just before Fox called the race in his favor.

0:46:09.190 --> 0:46:12.230
<v Speaker 1>VNS was ended in two thousand and three after its

0:46:12.230 --> 0:46:16.671
<v Speaker 1>computers crashed during the previous year's midterms. Warren Thetowski died

0:46:16.710 --> 0:46:19.551
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six, and Adelman spoke at his funeral.

0:46:20.631 --> 0:46:24.031
<v Speaker 1>He still believes in the value of projecting elections. He

0:46:24.071 --> 0:46:27.151
<v Speaker 1>doesn't think two thousand proved it's not worth doing, or

0:46:27.190 --> 0:46:29.230
<v Speaker 1>that there's something inherently irresponsible about it.

0:46:29.911 --> 0:46:32.111
<v Speaker 4>Your job is to call races. Your job is to

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<v Speaker 4>look at data and decide. And it's always safer to wait.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always safer to not say anything. But then you're

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<v Speaker 4>not doing what you're there for. That's what the job

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<v Speaker 4>is is. The job is taking risks. If you didn't

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<v Speaker 4>take a risk, who needs a decision person If you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to wait till it's one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Just after four am, the Gore campaign was scrambling to

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<v Speaker 1>charter a plane from Nashville to Florida. Jill Alper, a

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<v Speaker 1>political consultant working with the DNC, was tasked with rounding

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<v Speaker 1>up Gor staffers for the flight. Alper had spent election

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<v Speaker 1>Day in the boiler room with Jenny Bachus and Michael Hooley.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that it was over, or rather now that it

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<v Speaker 1>had failed to end, she was in charge of the

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<v Speaker 1>logistics of whatever happened next.

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<v Speaker 13>I remember saying, you know, gee, what I need as

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<v Speaker 13>a plane, and somebody saying, oh, right, well, we have

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<v Speaker 13>the Liberman plane and we had a scheduling and advanced

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<v Speaker 13>operation right there, so they could start, you know, renting

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<v Speaker 13>cars and finding hotel rooms and putting the logistics into place.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Lieberman's plane had seventy two seats, and Alper wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to fill all of them. By four point thirty in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, there were more than one hundred staffers waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to get on.

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<v Speaker 13>People ran back to their hotel rooms and their apartments

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<v Speaker 13>and got their things, and you know, off we went.

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<v Speaker 13>And when we were on the plane, we used the

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<v Speaker 13>PA system to train folks. While we were flying.

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<v Speaker 1>Down, someone christened the plane Recount one. It left the

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<v Speaker 1>cold dark of Nashville just as the sun was rising.

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<v Speaker 1>While some staff read up on recount strategy, others tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get as much sleep as they could. Many had

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<v Speaker 1>been up for twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 13>People were tired, and it was intense, but the moment

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<v Speaker 13>was not lost on all of us that it was unusual.

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<v Speaker 13>Who would ever thought, right, you'd be on a plane

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<v Speaker 13>heading to Florida to start a recount that could determine

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<v Speaker 13>who the president is.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Gore plane landed in Tallahassee, Joe Alper looked

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<v Speaker 1>out her window. The Florida sun was shining, and there

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<v Speaker 1>on the tarmac was the plane of Governor Jeb Bush.

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<v Speaker 13>At this point, it was like really clear that there

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<v Speaker 13>was going to be a showdown in Florida, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 13>we already knew we were into serious stuff, but they

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<v Speaker 13>were just right there.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next step. So to Fiasco, how a national

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<v Speaker 1>election turned into a local story about Palm Beach County.

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<v Speaker 1>The butterfly bell was one way of signifying that something

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<v Speaker 1>had gone horribly wrong with this election. Fiasco is a

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<v Speaker 1>production of Prolog Projects, and it's distributed by Pushkin Industries.

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<v Speaker 1>The show is produced by Andrew Parsons, Madelin kaplan Ula Culpa,

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<v Speaker 1>and me Leon Nafock. Our script editor was Daniel Riley.

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<v Speaker 1>Our editorial consultant was Camilla Hammer, and we received additional

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<v Speaker 1>editorial support from Lisa Chase. Our music and score are

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<v Speaker 1>Alexis Quadrado. Our theme song is by Spatial Relations. Our

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<v Speaker 1>mixed by Rob Buyers, Michael Raphael and Johnny Vince Evans

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<v Speaker 1>of Final Final V two Special thanks to Luminary for

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<v Speaker 1>a list of books, articles, and documentaries that we relied

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to the NBC News Archive and CNN for the

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