1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up. 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: Guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: as always, joined by Matt Muney Smith. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 4: It's June. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: First figure we get into OTA's today. You're from Rashaun Slater, 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: Kellen Moore, Keenan Allen get reaction to that. But you know, money, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: we've talked about this day for a while. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 4: Now. 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: You wonder what the Chargers have up their sleeve in 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: this fourth and fifth. 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: Wave of free agency. 13 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out soon's. 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: It's surprising, Chris, because there are still so many good 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: players left out there, and I know a lot of 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: people are looking at DeAndre Hopkins. He even mentioned Justin 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: Herbert by name on a podcast. Yeah, that's not a reality. 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: He's just as good of a receiver as he is. 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: That the man's entire body has made a stick them. 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't drop anything. It's just not the right fit 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: with Mike and Keenan a first round pick, and Quinton 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: Johnson and Josh Palmer. So that's not just kind of 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: push that to the side. It's just surprising to me 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: how many and these are premium positions. Wide receiver corner 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is out there O line, Dalton Reisner's out 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: there D line. I mean, look at the edge rushers 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: that are still available. We've said these names every single 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: week on the podcast with Jadavian Clowney, Justin Houston, Frank 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: clark Yannicking Gocway. The list is long. We've talked about 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd in his relationship with Brandon Staley in both 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Chicago and Los Angeles and how that's a good match 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: to try to find some depth on this defensive line. 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: The one little interesting thing that's changed today is that 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: Damon Lloyd. Damon Lloyd was just waived, and there's really 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: no reason right to waive a player unless you're trying 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: to open up a spot, unless you just know or 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: maybe you want to. Maybe you're being a nice you know, 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: the front office is being nice to Damon and say, hey, 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: let's get you out as early as you can so 40 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: you can find another place to connect. And we know 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: the Chargers try to do that as best as possible. 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: But that's just an interesting little thing. They now have 43 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: two roster spots open, and I'd love to see, you know, 44 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: we talked about this last week. Some creativity, get out there, 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: get some depth, specifically on that defensive line is what 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: I would love to see if they can find a 47 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: way to match up one of these edge players with 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: a number that works for them. 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: The names you just threw out there June first, we're 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: still talking about in doc Way and Lloyd and Frank 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: Clark and Clowney. I mean, one of those four guys 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: I think would be a fantastic addition to this roster. 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 4: Obviously, I'm not. 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: In the meetings with Tom and Jojo and that staff 55 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: and what Staley envisions as being the best fit. Obviously, 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: Leonard Floyd is a guy that he coached before. But 57 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: if you could get one of those guys on a 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: one year, prove a deal and come back and make 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: more money in twenty twenty four, that's a win win 60 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: all around. And it just gives you a little bit 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: more death behind Bosa and Mack and. 62 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: It leads me to believe that it's not going to 63 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: be an expensive deal. They would have been sild. There 64 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: was a team that was desperate, and almost every team 65 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: is desperate for edge help, for pass rushing help, for 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: even though the sack numbers aren't there, Jadavian Clowney is 67 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: still one of the best edge run defenders out there, 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: and he still provides pressures. Maybe not the sack number 69 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: totals that you thought you would see, but the pressures 70 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: are there, the hurries are there, the quarterback hits are there, 71 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: the run setting the edge and the run is there. 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: And we know what a problem that was last year. 73 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: And to me, it just it in. When I hear 74 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy say that the Chargers essentially told him 75 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to be coming back, it leads 76 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: me to believe, okay, well, there they must be lying 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: something else up because for the number that he got 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: last year, as well as Kyle ended up playing toward 79 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: the end of the season, it certainly would make sense 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: for them to say, hey, let us know when you 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: get an offer, and let's see if we can match 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: the number. All things being equal, we know you want 83 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: to be here. Let's see if we can line you know, 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: line it up. And the fact they didn't do that 85 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: leads me to believe perhaps they're further down the line 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: with an agent for Clark, Houston, Floyd and Gokway, one 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: of those Genevian Clowney and they just view that as 88 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: an upgrade that Yeah, we love you, Kyle, but we're 89 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: working on something that maybe is a little bit better 90 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: for us. And who knows. They can still go back 91 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: to Kyle if he can't find a gig and write 92 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: that check as well. 93 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, stay tuned with Dad. You know Bryce Callahan. 94 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: Another guy who's out there right now who was a 95 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: great addition to the secondary last year. A guy we 96 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: didn't see for a majority of last year money was 97 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: Rashaun Slater. 98 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: He spoke. I found him very refreshing. 99 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Man. 100 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: I always appreciate when Rashawn goes to the podium because 101 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: he's very forthright with his answers and very genuine guy. 102 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: He's one hundred percent. He said he's been one hundred 103 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: percent for a few months now, which means he probably 104 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: had the Chargers beating the Jags, probably would have been 105 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: a good chance he'd be starting against Kansas City in 106 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: the divisional round. 107 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: I want to boost that would have been and I'm 108 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: sure he was thinking about it when they were up 109 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: twenty seven. Nothing right, by the way, you and your 110 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: fourth right refreshing and listen, people, Chris is a Northwestern guy. 111 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Is a Northwestern guy, so of course. 112 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: And you're going to read between the floors. 113 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: And flawn each other's big brains, and how well spoken 114 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: they all are. And oh, the school of journalism is 115 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: one of the finest in the nation. Enough, well, hey, 116 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: go back. 117 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask. I wanted to ask if you 118 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: saw this pro football folcus put their like top ten 119 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: tackles together and listen, this is Chargers Weekly. I get it, 120 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: But objectively speaking, how is Colton Miller ahead of a 121 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: Shawn Slater. 122 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: The the Pro Football Focus. I'll start this. This is 123 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: not me trying to couch what I'm about to say. 124 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: It is an awesome site, a great service, and for 125 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: the most part of the time, I really love what 126 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: they do, the service they provide, and we have a 127 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: team access path to what they do on a different 128 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: level that a lot of the fans maybe don't. But 129 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: I completely recommend their services. Their their premier service, and 130 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: then they also have something for teams that's just next level. 131 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: How good it is. The One issue that most people 132 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: have around football is how they grade because they don't 133 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: they don't know necessarily what was called and what the 134 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: person's assignment was. So you're grading offensive lineman without knowing 135 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: what their assignment was. Now are there obvious times when 136 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: an old lineman gets beat. 137 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: Sure, but. 138 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: To me, it's just throw on, throw on the games 139 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: and watch for Shaun Slater, on watch Colton Miller, and 140 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: you tell me who you'd rather have. It's not even closet. 141 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Miller's a really good tackle, he's not Rashawn Slater. 142 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: I found it right here, Okay, Gordon McGinnis Top five 143 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: AFC offensive tackles number one, Jeremy Tunsel, number two, Colton Miller, 144 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: number three, Rashawn Slater, number four, Ronnie Stanley, number five, 145 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Orlando Brown junior. You know, in Gordon's defense, maybe just 146 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: the lack of snaps last year for Rashawn. 147 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: Maybe he's not so that. 148 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: By the way, that's not PFF. That's just this dude 149 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: so not that. That's just his sounds like that is. 150 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: That's not p pm F grades, per PFF grades. It's 151 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: just this guy, old Gordo. There, Gordo, what he's got going? 152 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh half half of it has to be money. 153 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: Maybe just out of sight, out of mind in a 154 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: second year. Dude was the first team All Pros rookie 155 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: rookie season, and I guess we're used to seeing what 156 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 3: Joey Bosa did the Colton Miller, especially early in his career. 157 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: Colton mill is a good player, Okay, I'm not I'm 158 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: not saying he's not player, but uh, I just have 159 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: a hard time wrapping my head around Rashaud Slater. 160 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Who's he number one? Tunsl Tunsel's number one? Yeah, and 161 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: that's fine. I got no problem with that, and I'm 162 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: just looking through it right now. I like Toront Armstead's 163 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: in Miami? Is he not on there? 164 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: He's not in the top five? 165 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: I think that was okay, So I'd have Toront Armstead. 166 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: I would much. I would rather have Toron Armstead than 167 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: Colton Miller. So that's that's another one. I'm not a 168 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: huge Orlando Brown fan. I'd probably I think if we're 169 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: so like like, that's what's funny, right, It's all just subjective. 170 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: I know, I know Jedrick Wills has struggled a little bit, 171 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: but I believe, you know, I believe in his potential. 172 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: So there's that. I mean, what, I have him in 173 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: the top five, No, he's got He's got a little 174 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: bit of work to do. But I think that's kind 175 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: of what I'm getting at is I think if you 176 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: were to ask football people. Hey, sorry, I'm looking off 177 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: to the side here for people watching it on YouTube. 178 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of trying to go through some of 179 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: these rosters and figure out, like Garrett Bowles, no, no, 180 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: there's not and that's like that so that it actually 181 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: brings us to a bigger point, Chris, like, we're struggling 182 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: to find five. That's that's why it is so important 183 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: to invest heavily in the offensive line, and why you 184 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: bring back Pipkins even though it was a bit of 185 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: an injury marred season and it was really his first 186 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: year of flashing and looking like a legitimate starting tackle. 187 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: It's why you draft Zion in the first round. It's 188 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: it's why you make Corey Linsley the highest paigde center 189 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: in the league. Offensive line is hard to find. We 190 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: are struggling. I'm going through all these teams and I 191 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: am trying to find, you know, five really good tackles 192 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: that that we can kind of kick around here. And 193 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: and you think about the Super Bowl aspirations of the 194 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: of the Bills, and it's like, Okay, Dean Dawkins, Yeah, 195 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: he's he's all right, He's an okay. Right tackle. Spencer Brownt, No, 196 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: not feeling that one. You go to Kansas City, they 197 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl and they signed Donovan Smith 198 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: is their left tackle, he's like sixty. And their right 199 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: tackle is Juwan Taylor, who essentially Jacksonville didn't even want back, 200 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: and they have a really gnarly looking offensive line. So 201 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: it's it's wild how hard it is to find that position. 202 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: And this goes to something we talked about before the 203 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: draft that I would draft. I would draft a corner 204 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: and an O lineman in the first five rounds every 205 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: single year. Give me maybe even first four rounds. Gimme 206 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: O line, gimme corner every year because you just you 207 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: gotta throw that, for lack of a better term, you 208 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: got throw it against the wall. You've got to find 209 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: these guys. They are so hard to find. It Like 210 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: when you look at when you look at the Kansas 211 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: City line, right Trey Smith was a six round pick. 212 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: Talk about a find, you know, and that's like, that's 213 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: the right guard. To be able to find that in 214 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: the sixth round like the Chargers did in the sixth round, 215 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: which Amari saw, your to be able to find a 216 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: starting guard, that's why you gotta do that. You just 217 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: gotta keep drafting those guys. It's so important to. 218 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: Let's go in company have done it too. 219 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about Trey Pipkin was a third 220 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: round pick who they stuck with and uh are are 221 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: seeing the fruits of that. And what was great was 222 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: Rashaan was just talking about how excited he is to 223 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: to to share that left side with with Zion this year. 224 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 3: You got young guys all over the place. 225 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: Go ahead. 226 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of. How is Ronnie Stanley 227 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: not on that list? 228 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: But Stanley was? Stanley was three or four? 229 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: I thought, I think I thought I thought Slater was 230 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: three behind Colton Miller four ry sand was four or okay, 231 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: he was four? All right, Well wasn't on my apologies, 232 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: I was like, where is that guy? 233 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: It's but that's I think the exciting part about this 234 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: upcoming year is that a Rashawan is back. Right, you 235 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: get a first team allro back at left tackle. You 236 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: have Zion, who who had really good moments last year 237 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: on the same side as Rashaan. You have the anchor 238 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: and Corey Linsley leading the charge of the veteran. There 239 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: you have Sawyer, who Slater praised. He said he had 240 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: no doubts that he was going to come in and 241 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: do his job at left tackle. He could play anywhere 242 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: and talk about a find late round fine for the Chargers. 243 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: You put him slot him at right guard. 244 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: And then Trey who has been working out with Duke 245 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: Mannyweather and Rashawan and actually Foster Surrell going down there 246 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: getting a little bit of that Duke magic too, which 247 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: is I think is a good thing. So just the 248 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: potential for this offensive line money, all these young guys 249 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: and perhaps the best center and football leading the way. 250 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: It's a good segue into the Kellen Moore post Ota 251 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: press up and of all the things to take away 252 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: from Kellen, from Rashawan and from Keenan, I think there 253 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: were two things that really well, there's three. There were 254 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: a lot of things, but the one that really stood 255 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: out the most, and you can tell there's there's certain answers. 256 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Some of these guys don't really like to do it. 257 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: I know the coordinators are typically uncomfortable doing it because 258 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to step on the head Coaches toes, 259 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: they're not quite sure what the talking points are. Sometimes 260 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: don't want to talk out of turn. That's always been 261 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: a big thing in football. When you're a coordinator, the 262 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is create a story. 263 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: You just try to play it right down the middle. 264 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: But every now and then you can see a disposition 265 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: shift and you could hear it when you listen to it. 266 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: You can hear it in his voice when he talks 267 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: about the left side of that line and how excited 268 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: he is, and he talked about and this was something 269 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: that Rashon Slater echoed as well, with why they want 270 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: to make things simple. We've got our primary runs and 271 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: it's important for these five guys to be connected to 272 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: make their assignment simple. So when we call one of 273 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: those primary runs, we can let their physical abilities take over. 274 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: And that's when he leaned into Slater, Johnson Lindsley on 275 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: that left side and what he thinks is going to 276 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: be a Grit eight strength in the run game. And 277 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: it should be because it was the year prior, whenever 278 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: they ran with Filer and Slater and Lindsley, they talk 279 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: about five yards per carry and they just could not 280 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: rediscover that last year. Understandably, so when Rashawn went out, 281 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: but it was also fun and I know you saw this, Chris, 282 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: just to hear how Rashawn talked about having Zion next 283 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: to him and what the two of them have been 284 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: doing together in the weight room. 285 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: He says he's trying to match Zion. 286 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody can match Zion in the weight room, 287 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: and shrubs later is having trouble doing it. 288 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: You know what Zion is in the weight room, He's 289 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: a beast. 290 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: I think the most significant quote that came out of 291 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: you know, whether it was Keenan Rashon or Killing Moore. 292 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: When Rashan was asked about how more can benefit the 293 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: Run Game, I'm just gonna read it verbatim, he said, simplification, 294 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: you'd be surprised how much can change in the Run 295 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: Game whenever certain rules are rearranged or just coaching points 296 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: change a little bit. I think that's really going to 297 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: allow us to just play fast and give us a 298 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: chance to make explosive plays. And Kellen echoed that just 299 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: when you have elite talent and they're allowed to play 300 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: fast and not have to think. It also leads me 301 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: to believe that maybe that wasn't the case last year 302 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: in the Running Game, and the way that. 303 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: The things production would tell you that. 304 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: The numbers say that right, we don't really need anybody 305 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: else to tell us. But I think that's exciting for 306 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: Chargers fans to not only get an All Pro back 307 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: at left tackle, but also these young guys another year 308 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: under their belt and then a coaching philosophy that allows 309 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: a little bit more simplification for the offensive lineman to 310 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: just do their thing and have the running game kind 311 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: of take care of itself after that. 312 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: And I would say, you talk to any old lineman, 313 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: and I've been fortunate to work with a few of them, 314 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: a few really good ones. I mean some like Nick 315 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: Hardwick and All Pro and others like Brian Baldinger who's 316 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: as great as student of the game as we have 317 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: in the media around football, and they'll both tell you 318 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: same thing as well. Any offensive lineman. And as the 319 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: Sean o'harrow I worked with at NFL and Network, all 320 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: those guys, they all say the same thing, man, we 321 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: don't want to pass set. We want a freaking run block. 322 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: We want to we want to run at the defender, 323 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: and we want to humiliate them. And that's what they're 324 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: that's what they really are wired to do. And you 325 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: can hear that in slat or like yeah, and that's 326 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: someone remember who who is in the conversation is the 327 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: best technique in football. That's what everybody talks about with Slater. 328 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: His technique is exceptional. His ability to set reset is unmatched. 329 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: Is one of the best in the league. But you've 330 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: seen the videos. You see him climbing under all that weight. 331 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: You're hearing about him talking about Zion and we've been 332 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: around Zion. You see how he's built. That's what those 333 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: guys want to do. They want to impose their will 334 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: because once you do that, well, no, now you have 335 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: a defensive line that's a little nervous about getting run over, 336 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: and maybe they're trying to set themselves so they're not humiliated, 337 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: you know on Sports Center and shown getting pancaked into 338 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: the ground and now you've got an advantage in the 339 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: past sets. So look, there's a reason why teams that 340 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: run the ball really well tend to have the best 341 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: offensive line grades. Why do you think Dallas and Philly 342 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: and Cleveland and you look across their offensive lines. You know, 343 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: we're talking about the PFF grades. When you look at 344 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: the PFF grades, the teams that run the ball really 345 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: well because it gives that offensive line an advantage and 346 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: so with Kellen Moore coming in, I think the offensive 347 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: lineman recognize that as well, you know, And that's the 348 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: one thing just kind of put a button on it. Is. 349 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: The one thing that this offensive line has going for 350 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: it is how strong it is. And I know that's 351 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: the case for a lot of offensive lines. But like 352 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: the one thing about Jamari Sawyer, well why did he slip? Well, 353 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: they just were worried about his athleticism. But man, once 354 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: he gets his hands on you, it's over. And like 355 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 1: that was that was the story on Jamari's They were 356 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: worried about his length or his arms long enough to 357 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: play tackle. Probably not, is the athletic enough to move inside, 358 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: don't know, but man if he gets his hands on you, 359 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: it's over. And we saw that last year, you know. Yeah, 360 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: there were some guys that were really good at Bendon 361 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: that got around him and caused some trouble, but man 362 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: if he put his hands on you. And now you 363 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: got him sandwich between a six foot six, three hundred 364 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: and twenty pound Trey Pipkins who's pretty damn strong and 365 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: a bowl in his own right and Lindsley, Well, now 366 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: you talk about someone who can really excel and I'm 367 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: not surprised at all to see so much of the 368 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: conversation focus on a run blocking and b running the 369 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: ball with the contract incentives that essentially acknowledge that Austin 370 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: Eckler is going to be back. 371 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think everybody's excited about Austin. 372 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: I go back to a couple of years when Coach 373 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: Staley first took the job, he made comments about being 374 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: a physical run team and just how you have to 375 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 3: run the ball to set things up. And I do 376 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: think that they're going to get back to that this year, 377 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: just that identity that, hey, we can run the football 378 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: when we need to run the football. There's gonna be 379 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: certain instances and games where you need to win games 380 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: and you need to win it by running. And everybody 381 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: that talked about Austin, Keenan and Rashaan and Coach Moore 382 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: said they couldn't be more thrilled that he's going to 383 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: be back. And I thought one of the things that 384 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: was a little bit revealing in Keatan's answer is you 385 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: know how the offense is going to change. He says, well, 386 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: Mike can go deep. We got a guy named Quintin Johnson. 387 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: He can go deep. We're gonna go deep this year. 388 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: So I think that that's what we're gonna see. You know, 389 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: fans wanted to see. 390 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: That last year. 391 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: It's just I think the personnel on the field didn't 392 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: really allow for that with all the injuries. But make 393 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: no mistake, I think this is going to be a 394 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: much more vertical attack, maybe going back to the rookie 395 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: year of Justin Herbert, where you know, t Billy and 396 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: Jalen Guyton and Mike Williams were catching bombs seemingly on 397 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: a weekly basis. 398 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, when Shane was was calling the place. Just to 399 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of go back to the point you were making 400 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: about needing to run the ball, we just have to 401 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: go back to our most recent football memory, right, the 402 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: fact that they could not run the ball in the 403 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: second half when they were up twenty seven to seven 404 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: thirteen yards. Yeah, so there it is. You know what happened. 405 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: All you do is get a couple more first downs, 406 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, two or three maybe four first Can you 407 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: get me four extra first downs? Not even scores, just 408 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: first downs in the second half With that kind of lead, 409 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: that will get you into better field goal range, that 410 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: will extend your drive and open up your playbook a 411 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: little bit more and they couldn't do it. They were 412 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: behind the sticks the entire second half and the game 413 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: just got away from them. So that's the goal of 414 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: an offense. It's to stay ahead of the sticks. And 415 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: that's why running the ball effectively is so important because 416 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: it's an easy way to stay ahead of the sticks. 417 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: If you can get those four yards, will now play 418 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: action works. Now your eye candy and your jets sweeps 419 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: and your motion work because you're worried about a run 420 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: game that's getting you four to five yards every time 421 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: you touch the ball. That's why the why Shane and 422 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: Nick and what they did Nick Sirianni and Shane Stikeen 423 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: did in Philadelphia was so effective. They had defenses on 424 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: their heels the whole game, and it just felt like 425 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: last year the defense. Opposing defenses were never on their heels. 426 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: They were on their toes with their ears pinned back, 427 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: and they were coming because they couldn't run the ball 428 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: very well. The designed runs seemed like the defense knew 429 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: what was coming at him and they never pushed the 430 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: ball downfield. Going to the second point you were making 431 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: Chris about you got the arm, You've got the guys 432 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: that can make the plays, you've got to go deep. 433 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: And the reason why Keenan didn't follow that up with 434 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: I guess that means that I'm not going to be 435 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: doing much because he's going to be the beneficiary of that, 436 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: because you have to commit resources to explosive plays. And 437 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: now Keenan's one on one in the slot and we 438 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: know what he can do to guys with his route running. 439 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be helping the whole time. It's going to 440 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: be one slant after the next for twelve yards and 441 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: fifteen yards and eight yards and first down here. He's 442 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: going to lead the league in third down catches for 443 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: first downs again this coming season, because you're terrified you're 444 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: gonna get burned by that arm and those giant receivers 445 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: on the outside or the speed of jailingditon. 446 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and maximizing Austin Eckler's touches too. That's another thing 447 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: that Kellen Moore talked about is just you know, it's 448 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: not about carries or receptions, just touches. Right, If you 449 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: can maximize Austin's touches with everybody going downfield, just makes 450 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 3: the offense. 451 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: Just really hard to stop, and you know, he talked. 452 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: About an eighteen game season. When somebody was asking him 453 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: about the running back two position, He's like, listen, you 454 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: got to have a stable of guys because it's a long, 455 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: long season. So I feel like Isaiah Spiller and Joshua 456 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: Kelly are going to get a lot of cracks at 457 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: that running back two. Come training camp and we talked 458 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: about all these pass rushers. There's just as many running 459 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: backs out there right now too that could crazy potentially 460 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: be a fit. I mean, Zeke Kelly, it's another one 461 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: that did Kellen Moore knows really well. I mean, I'm 462 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 3: not saying he's coming to LA, but you know. 463 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: Makes sense, Chris. You know, the one thing that that 464 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: Zeke does as good as any back in the league, 465 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: even after all those touches and all the pounding that 466 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: his body's taken, is past he's pass pro That dude 467 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: passed blocks his ass off. Yeah, and that's if you're 468 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: taking shots downfield. And we know Austin does it really 469 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: well and josh Kelly's gotten better at it. We have 470 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: no idea if Isaiah Spiller can do it. But it 471 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: would not surprise me that like that move would not 472 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: surprise me at all. If he said. 473 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: Hey money a couple of months ago, it was I 474 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: think it was chefter. 475 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: Somebody said that he's narrowed his focus to the Eagles, 476 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: the Bengals, and then I think another team potentially maybe 477 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: the Jets, and then we heard nothing over the last 478 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: couple of months. 479 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: So maybe maybe it's a clean slate now. 480 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's just another guy to keep 481 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: your eye on his Kareem Hunt and Leonard Fournettler, but. 482 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: Scream Hunts still out there. Yeah, They're all still out there, 483 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: and there you go. Kareem Hunt, I think's a little bit. 484 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: Look he we know he's capable of doing. I mean, 485 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: he could be a lead back. But again it goes 486 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: to what we mentioned a little bit earlier. When all 487 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: of these players are still out there, they're not getting 488 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: the number they want. And when you don't know, when 489 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: you don't get the number that you want, you now 490 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: need to play the oka Where can I play so 491 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: I get my number next year? Where can I go 492 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: where I'm going to put up numbers? And I can 493 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: because the days of Zeke and Kareem Hunt getting eight 494 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: ten million bucks multi year deal, so those are gone. 495 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: It's just the reality, the age they are, the miles 496 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: that the tread on, the tires they're looking at. I 497 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: got to, you know, can I maximize this? Okay I couldn't. 498 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: This year. I didn't get that five or six million bucks. Well, 499 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: now I've got to take two or three million dollars 500 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: with incentives. Where do I have a chance to earn 501 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: those incentives and set myself up to at least get 502 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: this same number next year? And so that's where you 503 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: know the Chargers can come into play on offense. Okay, well, 504 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, both Zeke and Tony Pollard eight Tony Pollard's 505 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: getting paid now, and Austin Eckler, we know is said publicly, 506 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: I need a second guy and this, this, this, this 507 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: beats me down by the time the end of the 508 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: season comes around. I need another guy that can can 509 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: match what I'm doing. So that wouldn't surprise me. It's 510 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: not something you really want to spend money on. You'd 511 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: like to go the cheaper route with rookie contracts at 512 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: that point, you know, we always talk about spend your 513 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: money at premium positions O line, D line, corner, wide receiver, quarterback. 514 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: You know those your your linebackers, your safety sorry guys, 515 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: your linebackers, your safeties, your tight ends, you know those 516 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: your interior linemen to some degree, you can cheat on that, 517 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: your linebackers all that. 518 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: How much is Heke even gonna want? 519 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: He just got the biggest contract there is for a 520 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 3: running back, you know, so he's he's got a pile 521 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: of money. You hope that maybe some of these guys 522 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: are focus is winning a championship and being in the 523 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: best situation, knowing the offense, and he certainly would check those. 524 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 4: You know. 525 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: Dalvin Cooks another guy that I know the Chargers don't 526 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: really have the money for, but like, where's he gonna go? 527 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 4: Like, who has the money for a Dalvin cook? You know? 528 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: Is this to me? They just I feel like they 529 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: figure that out in Minnesota. I don't know how they don't. Yeah, 530 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: it's a team that won. You know, what's the games 531 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: last year? 532 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 3: Twelve games with Madison's there. 533 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, Madison Alexander. 534 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 3: It just makes too much sense to have both those 535 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 3: guys with the weapons that they have on the outside too. 536 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: But when you talk about it as a collective though, 537 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: like as a collective corners, running backs, safeties, we talked 538 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: about John Johnson a million times, right, Like, there's there 539 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: are so many players out there that are not going 540 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: to get played, that aren't kind of get paid, that 541 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: are going to be available on bargain deals, and I'm 542 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: anxious to see again. Some of this goes back to 543 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: waving Lloyd earlier today. When we're recording this on Thursday, 544 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: it's like, ooh, is that so? Are we are we 545 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: looking at something here? Is there something? Are we working 546 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: on a little something here that can give this team 547 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: some depth? Because man, we saw what happened last year 548 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: along that defensive line, the interior of the line, the edges, 549 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: when Bosa went down and searching for that second pass 550 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: rusher on how long it took for Kyle van nuy 551 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: to finally solidify something opposite Khalil mack corners just as 552 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: a safety measure, however long it might take Jackson to 553 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: get back, you know, all that sort of stuff. There 554 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: are so many players out there, Boy, would be great 555 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: to see some veteran depth added to this group. Again, 556 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: not talking about guys that are going to get in 557 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: front of young players that you believe are ready to 558 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: take that next step. We're talking about death in case 559 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: guys that can rotate through that can give you x 560 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: number of snaps as your starter's rest when everybody's healthy, 561 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: and provide a viable situation if they go down. 562 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: We may have taped this before this happened last week, 563 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: but Nick Williams another guy just to add depth to 564 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: the defensive line. 565 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember if we thought we talked about it. 566 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just another example of right guy who Yeah, 567 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 3: I believe in Staley's bike up, he said that he 568 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: took Austin Johnson's spot. 569 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: In New York when Austin came to the Chargers. 570 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: So right, it's perfect. And that's a position where you 571 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: don't know when's Austin gonna be ready, when's Tito gonna 572 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: be ready? You know what is that? What does that 573 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: look like? So that's that makes some sense to me. 574 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: You know. The one thing that's that's good to see 575 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: is when you look at the I'm looking at the 576 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: r lads right now, the Charger's depth chart. There's only 577 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: one green in the starting lineup, and that's Quentin Johnson. 578 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: Your rookies are providing depth. Man, Go ahead, and you 579 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: want to have fun. Click on the Los Angeles Rams. 580 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: Our lads, it is you want to talk about. There 581 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: have got to be I'm not exaggerating. Forty names in Green, 582 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: Green is rookies, by the way, I'm not exaggerating. Here's 583 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: on offense two four, six, eight, ten, twelve, fourteen. There's 584 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: sixteen on offense two four, six, eight, ten, twelve, fourteen, sixteen, eighteen, 585 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: twenty one on defense. Thirty seven rookies on that roster. 586 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: It's incredible how they have had to restock, you know, 587 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: and what they're what that team's going to look like. 588 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: You look at their if you look at special teams, 589 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: it's all Green, every single. 590 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: It's like there's no middle class chance. 591 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: Right, you have the old guys with Donald and Cup 592 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: and Stafford and then all rookies. 593 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: So right, that's gonna look like. 594 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: I'm intrigued by with the Rams going to try to 595 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: be this year? Are they Are they going to be 596 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: a team that's going to compete in the West. Are 597 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: they going to be a team that's looking for Caleb 598 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: Williams in twenty twenty four? 599 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: That's what I would do. I would do the ladder. 600 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: I would absolutely do the ladder. I don't think there 601 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: is any reason to and it's just hard it's not. 602 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: That's the one thing I think people struggle with when 603 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: they want their team to tank. It's not basketball, it's 604 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: not baseball. It's a violent game, and guys can get 605 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: hurt and their careers can end. And that's where you 606 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: have to be careful. You've got to try to play 607 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: to win every game. And that's why typically roster construction 608 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: is when you see the tank, that's how you do it. 609 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: You're the Arizona Cardinals and you cut DeAndre Hopkins, you 610 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: just did. It's like, yeah, you're we're going to eat 611 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: twenty two million dollars. That's what's that Kyler. You're ready 612 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: to come back, Go ahead, hold out a little bit. 613 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: We're good. Let's let's let's let's leave you off the 614 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: roster for two more weeks. When you look at that 615 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: roster of Arizona's along that front, defensively. 616 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: They're telling you right now it looks like in the 617 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 4: desert in the fall. Yeah you know, they'll letting you know. 618 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's a little bit of an aside. My apologies, but. 619 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: No, but here I want to end on this. 620 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: It's it's not charge related, but it could be AFC 621 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: related with regard to DeAndre Hopkins. You already said it's 622 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: he mentioned justin Herbert. 623 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: It's not an option. It's not an option for the Chargers. 624 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: It's just not necessarily. I mean, look, he fits anywhere. 625 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: He's that good, but yeah, get anywhere. 626 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: But I think they've got other needs that they What 627 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: they don't want is him going to Kansas City or Buffalo. 628 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: And I saw something today where Kadarius Tony they have 629 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: really big plans for him this year. We know the 630 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: DIGS is in Buffalo. Where do you think DeAndre Hopkins 631 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: ends up? And like I said, the hope for Charger 632 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: fans is that you don't see him twice a year 633 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: in Kansas City or late during the holidays playing for Buffalo. 634 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: See. 635 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: I think that the issue with DeAndre is he wants money. 636 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: He wants that Odell Beckham Junior fifteen million bucks, which 637 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: I just don't. 638 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: Know rightly if Odell's get it, I think. 639 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: Not saying he doesn't. You know, the guy just lost 640 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: twenty two million bucks or you know, so it's like 641 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: or however much he lost in salary by by being cut, 642 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't It's it's hard to find. I mean, he 643 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: would fit really well in Miami with those burners with 644 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: with Wattle and you know, with Waddle and Tyreek Hill 645 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: just taking the top off. And here you've got a 646 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: guy who catches anything. 647 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 3: Atmosphere money with week one. 648 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's one. I think. You know, 649 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: it's if they can't figure something out. I don't know 650 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: if they're really trying to redo Corey Davis's number in 651 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: New York, you would assume a vet is what. As 652 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: great as their young receivers are, they've shown that they 653 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: are just all in to win a Super Bowl this 654 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: year in New York. I don't know if they could 655 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: figure that out there. If I were him, man, I'd 656 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: be looking at the NFC. I'd be like, let's let's 657 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: let's you know what, what do you put me with 658 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson. Get me out there, man, 659 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's do it in Minnesota. Let's can 660 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: you know how healthy is Michael Thomas? You know Derek 661 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: Carr doesn't really like standing in there too long and 662 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field. Well, here's the guy 663 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna catch everything. Throw it in his general vicinity. 664 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: He'll catch every You got a lave out there. Like, 665 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: to me, that makes a lot of sense. And the 666 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: South is wide open. You know, Carolina traded DJ Moore. 667 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: You want to make life easier for for Bryce Young, 668 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: your rookie, give him a receiver that catches everything. Look 669 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: at what Keenan meant to Justin Herbert his rookie year. 670 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: Anytime he was under duress, he was looking for thirteen. 671 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: Put him on Carolina. I mean, right now, you look 672 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: at their wide receivers, it's it's Adam Thielen, DJ Shark 673 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: and Terrence Marshall. Like, get Hopkins on that team. So 674 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: there's you. 675 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: Know, Jamison Williams is out for the first six weeks 676 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: in Detroit, bron Hopkins and Williams with Gibbs in the 677 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: backfield and that offensive line. 678 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you've got you've got the speed and Williams 679 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: when he gets gets back out there. Yeah, I mean, 680 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: I guess you got Marvin Jones, so you don't have 681 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: a lot of speed out there. They kind of you know, 682 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm on Roz more of that slot. Not necessarily take 683 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: the top off kind of guy. But yeah, that's another one. 684 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: Like there's plenty of options out there in the NFC 685 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: that I look at and I see man like, how 686 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: about this? How about freaking Atlanta? Put him in Atlanta 687 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: with with Drake Lennon and just you're building the tallest 688 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: basketball team in town. You've got all these big old 689 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers with these giant catch radiuses, b Jeon Robinson 690 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: in the backfield, Kyle pitts it tight, and you've just 691 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: got giants. Mac Collins is out there now to give 692 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: you a little bit of speed, like Scottie Miller for 693 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: some speed. You know, the in the slot like that 694 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: one looks good to me. 695 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: Looking at He doesn't need a franchise quarterback to get 696 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 3: it done. He's done with a lot a lot of pedestrial. 697 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 4: You know. 698 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: The guy catches everything. It is incredible. How when we 699 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: when when the Chargers played Arizona last year, I just 700 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: remember watching him going, how is he catching these balls? Yeah, 701 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: they're they're they're behind him, they're behind his head, they're 702 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: on his back. There's a corner and his safety draped 703 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: all over him. And then you just see the guy 704 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: emerge and he's got the ball and he's running like 705 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: he's incredible. He really is. So there's like that that's 706 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: sort of where I'd be looking if I were him, 707 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: I would I would try like that would be that 708 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: would sort of be the uh the path. I would 709 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: be looking at it because you want production, right, you 710 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: want to show. Yeah, I'm still a wide receiver one 711 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: and I want fifteen million bucks next year. I'll take 712 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: the I'll take the nine million bucks this year, twelve 713 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: million bucks this year, but I expect to get paid 714 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: next year, and I'm gonna do it by putting out 715 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: big numbers. 716 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 3: So you know, if Cleveland wants to elevate itself in 717 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: the AFC conference, A great one. Hopkins, Elijah Moore and 718 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: Murray Cooper and Nick Chubb in the backfield. A little 719 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 3: reunion between Watson and Hopkins. That could be something that 720 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 3: right be potentially scary in the AFC North. 721 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: Two hundred percent. Another great one. 722 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know, man, it's. 723 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: We're out of the air. Maybe I'm just trying to 724 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: manifest here, Chris, get them to the NFC, get him 725 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: out of here, keep them over there. We got too 726 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: many good players coming into this conference. It's driving me crazy. 727 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 4: Well it is. 728 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: And you know, if if you're DeAndre Hopkins, you look 729 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 3: at yourself as a game changing player. You could you 730 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: could be the reason why a team competes with Philly 731 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 3: to go to the super Bowl. You know, Philly is 732 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: the prohibitive favorite. We know that, and they're they're stacked 733 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: at the wide receiver position. But if you're a team 734 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: like the New York Giants, or the Detroit Lions or 735 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: the San Francisco I mean, I'm just na naming teams 736 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: that are in the conversation any any team in that 737 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: NFC South maybe saved for Tampa Bay I think can 738 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: win that division next year. You know a couple of them. 739 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 3: So if I'm Hopkins, I'm looking at that saying, okay, 740 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: maybe I can be the difference maker in the NFC 741 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 3: and put our team in the conversation against the Eagles 742 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 3: in that NFC championship as opposed to have signed with 743 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 3: thirteen sixteen, preferably signed with a sorry Chris, preferably signed 744 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: with a team that's also shopping for an edge rusher. 745 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 3: So you take up all their money and the Chargers 746 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 3: can can take that can scratch that team off the list. 747 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 4: That's what we're doing here, man. 748 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 3: We're trying to put Hopkins in the necessary spot to 749 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 3: maximize the Chargers and everything they can do as well. 750 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: Exactly, all right. 751 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 3: That's what we do in June first charges Weekly money, 752 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 3: a lot of speculation. 753 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 4: We're gonna get to list. 754 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: Season very quickly too, at the end of June when 755 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 3: there's not much going on, and uh we wait for 756 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 3: training camp in July. 757 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 4: But at least we have O. T. A. S H 758 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 4: in a mandatory minie to break. 759 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: Down, all right, hopefully some some some signings. That's what 760 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: it's crossed our fingers. 761 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, we from today. 762 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: Let's see if the Chargers bring on anybody new, we'll 763 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: break it down here for money. 764 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 4: I'm Chris. This has been Chargers Weekly.