WEBVTT - Draft Show_3_4.mp3 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:10.200 This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:14.040 room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.759 the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star and Frisco 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.680 and now your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.280 Today is Tuesday, March fourth, twenty twenty five, and we 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.360 are fifty one days away from the NFL Draft in 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.600 Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.720 Miller Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:40.320 It's Miller time. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.280 We've got Brian brought us, We've got Tommy yarsh with 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.360 Chris Beam in the back on Kyle Yeomans, and for 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:50.160 the first time since before the Senior bull We've got 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.240 itself back on the Draft Show. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.440 It's the one, the only, the Nick. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.200 Harris Yes, Senior Bowls, Super Bowl and then Combine and 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.080 then I got six somewhere in between. But it's good 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.120 to be back. I am so happy to talk draft 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:01.639 and nothing else. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.399 You've been a world traveler. Nothing all over. What just 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:08.039 happened about three seconds? Yeah? Nothing, nothing at all, nothing whatsoever. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.560 I may have just broken and taken a possible position 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:11.959 off of. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.399 Our draft board. Or does it Yes? I think it does. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.400 I think I think it. But at the I think 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.080 maybe at a position, if you say the ones in 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.240 the threes, I think it takes yeah, yeah, okay, instead 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.720 of maybe having Walter Nolan at twelve. Now do you 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.240 kind of think about something there. I still draft defensive 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:33.240 tackles in this draft. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.000 Yeah, absolutely, I think I would still draft defensive interior. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.080 And shoot, if Mason Grahams somehow falls at twelve, you 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.720 have a legitimate conversation about that. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.040 Sure, but I think. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.240 If this also did easy one news ends up getting 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:48.480 confirmed and by the team yes, yeah, yeah, then this 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.320 I think it takes the need of having to get 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.080 a three tech right there at twelve, a guy like 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.200 Walter Nolan, Yeah, out out of the equation. But that 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:57.960 doesn't mean that you can't go on day three and 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.279 get a guy like No it's. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.600 People, no, no, no, no, no question about that. The 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:05.800 thing to me is, like I know that when they 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.720 said that they were going to get or work on 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.600 getting OSA done, I immediately took Walter Nolan Adham off 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.400 the board. I took not yeah, I took him out 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.359 of my mind. Yeah, but it doesn't stop me from 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.080 looking at these ones and looking at threes. I'm just 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.560 not looking at him and you know, probably at you know, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:24.920 at twelve or at forty four. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.840 We're referencing the reports that have surfaced as of literally 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.120 one minute ago, I mean we were literally counting down 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:36.280 into the show and Ian rapperport Adam Schefter on Twitter 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.239 the reports are and like Nick alluded to, the team 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.440 has not confirmed. But four years, eighty million dollars an 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.520 extension for Ostgezuwa fifty eight million guaranteed is what it 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.720 appears to be. So Cowboys that playing the place the 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.080 franchise tag on Osa that would have been about twenty 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.560 five million dollars, and of course down a one year 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.440 deal instead, he opted to take the multi year deal 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.840 that ends up being more guaranteed money, but over a 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.320 longer period of time. This is a win for both parties. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.000 I think whenever it's all, I. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.800 Kind of feel like this is really a win for 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.520 Matty Eberflus. Yes, absolutely, I think Matt Eberflus probably came 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.040 in him and the staff sat down and watched the tape. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.440 He is from the he originally from the Rob Ryan 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:25.160 administration of three four odd Defense, yep, and he's morphed 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.959 into a Rod Marinelli for three guy, and Rod Marinelli 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.240 always talked about how important that three technique was, you know, 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.400 even to the point where he got the Cowboys to 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.920 sign Tyron Crawford. Remember they were thinking about, you know, like, oh, well, 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.520 here's our three technique in the future. And Crawford unfortunately 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.080 was just too banged up to really have any kind 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.520 of influence you know, on the team that way. But 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.080 uh yeah, and if this in fact the reports are true, 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:53.920 you know, good for the team to get that done. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.600 I please, I hope it doesn't keep them from going 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.480 out and doing other things. Yes, And like I said, 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.960 we've learned that you have to play in all three. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:03.320 You have to be able to draft, you have to 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:04.680 be able to trade, and you have to be able 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.400 to play in free agency. And if you don't do 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.600 all three, then you're going to fall behind the other 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:09.920 teams that are win Super Bowls. 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.160 We're just talking about this on talking before we started 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:14.880 this show. In terms of you made a good point 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.080 about three techniques. In Matt Aberfluss's defense, he's called him 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.200 the engine is the word that he used of their defense. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.640 And I think that if this is in fact the case, 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.200 that OsO Diggisy was back in Dallas for a long term. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.880 You've got that, and you've got one box checked. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:29.400 Now. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.880 The other position that's been really good in his defense too, 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.520 has been the nickel corner spot. So Jordan Lewis is 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:35.880 the name that comes to mind in terms of a 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.560 guy that you want to keep in house, because if 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.560 you're going to be a draft and developed team, you've 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.400 got to take the guys that you draft and develop 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.120 and keep them in town. And I think both of 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.120 those guys fit perfectly into this scheme. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.039 You know. Can I can ask a question here though? 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.960 Of course, sure, just in the form of team building. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.280 And we all understand Osa had a really nice year 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.479 last year for this football team. But with this the 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.719 depth that the position at the defensive tackles spot, could 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.599 you have let that ride and drafted it like you 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.240 maybe thought about, like you double dip that thing. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.360 You're really banking on that. Yeah, I think so, But you're. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.120 I mean, are you paying a position that in the draft? 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.279 And listen, I'm happy Dallas did it. I'm not saying 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:21.159 I'm but I'm just wondering if if you if you 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.200 resigned a linebacker or you were signed something that didn't 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.200 have depth in the position. Is this one of those 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.800 things you're gonna look back and you're gonna say, Wow, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.560 this contract. They signed a player. And I'm not complaining 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.120 about them signing players. I'm just saying, as deep as 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:44.560 the defensive tackle position is, is that a mistake or 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:49.080 could it be seen as a mistake in team building? Maybe? 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.960 But I'm looking at a team that let's just go 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:58.839 down the history books, Justin Rodgers, Villiami Fojoco, John Ridgeway, Osa, 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.640 Chauncey Golston. This is all over the last five drafts, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:04.720 Neville Gallimore. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.480 They've missed on a lot of defense. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.280 Okay, they've missed on a lot of might as well 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:09.720 keep the one that you've They've missed on a. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:13.160 Lot of defensive tackles, but have names like Grant and 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:18.000 Williams and Harmon and Alexander and Sanders and Norman Lott. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.200 I mean, I don't think I've seen a group of 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.840 defensive tackles that have been this good. Well, a lot 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:25.520 of those guys. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.440 That you mentioned, like Graham, I don't know if he's 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:28.239 there at twelve. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.320 No, I'm just saying I was just saying that the 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.119 name I said Grant. I didn't say Graham. I didn't 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.599 say Graham. You could so throw Golden in there, throw 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.480 Grant in there, Throw Williams from Ohio State, Harmon from Oregon, 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:45.599 Alexander Alexander from Toledo, Sanders from South Carolina. This is 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.680 a this is a deep group. I mean, heck, we 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:51.880 you know, my man Nick here just threw a Peoples 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.680 at me in the fourth round, you know, I mean, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.160 I just you wonder you wonder though, and with the 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:02.680 ones Collins West, Philip sure cald Well, those names are 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.599 better than anybody you just named. I mean to me, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.520 you're drafting one of these guys here. I think it's 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.920 a much much better player than what they've had to 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.480 deal with in the past that maybe they were, you know, 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.320 maybe they're like, oh, we're kind of forced to have 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.560 to do this and it doesn't work out as well. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.360 I'll say this, I don't think even if you still 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.480 get a guy high, like if you look at that 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:25.360 second round. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.520 Forty four, maybe one of these defensive tackles. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.640 Because I'm fully with Brian and this is an elite 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:34.559 deep defensive tackle class. There is no problem with having 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.680 too much depth. I think at the defensive tackle position. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.119 No question. And so, but you are spending twenty million 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.120 dollars a year, I think if that on the position. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.640 If that's the case, you're not spending a top three 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.000 round pick on your three tech. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.040 You've you've kind of you've addressed that it's there. 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.400 But now you can address another spot too, because I'm 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.520 also when I'm looking at this football team, Yes we 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.000 needed three tech help. Yes, the Cowboys needed some help 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.960 in that regard, but they also need help in wider 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.080 They need help at running back, they need help at corner, 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.800 they need help a linebacker at one tech. All of 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.320 these different areas can now be addressed because you've checked 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.000 a box and you've gotten. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.080 I'm still drafted the dude, And at forty four, I 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.280 mean I might even think about it again. You know, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.560 I'm not thinking about it at twelve. Now, I might 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.960 think about it at twelve. Now. Okay, let me ask 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.800 you guys this. Do you see Graham Michigan as a 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:28.240 one or three technique? And if he's there, I mean 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.480 my colleague to the left here, my scouty buddy here, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.000 he's like, Graham, sign me up, let's go. Yeah. See 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.439 that's what I'm saying is he a one or three 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:38.000 on your board? 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:39.520 I think he could play either, but I have him 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:39.920 as a one. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.360 I do too. Ye see, there's guys around the league 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.559 that say he's a three. But yeah, but he knew 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.240 he lost all that weight. I think he did it 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.240 for the combine to because he was going to get 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.480 crushed at the combine their short arms. Doesn't look but 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.280 just throw on the tape. Okay, the guy is a 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.880 outstanding football player, but they were going to crush him 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.760 on all the things at the combine that you measure. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.240 So to me, if you guys see him as the one, 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.160 you seem two hundred ninety six pounds as a one 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.720 or were you are you? You need to be like three. 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:13.439 You need to be at least much like we. 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:17.120 Thought about my same same scenario where he weighed in 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:18.760 lower than we thought, and then he got here and 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.040 he was under three hundred pounds of training camp. Yeah, 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.800 and he never really got back to that. It would 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.680 be the same category for me, and I don't I 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:26.679 don't want to go down that road. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.240 Yeah, that's fair. That's why I love, trust me. I 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.760 love the fact that they got osa done. I'm really 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.440 happy for him. I just wonder though, and this is 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.480 not a complaint, but it's just you just signed a 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.200 player twenty million dollars a year at one of the 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:46.600 deepest positions in a draft in my opinion, yep. And 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.480 that's where I think you have to look at it 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.040 and you're like, Okay, maybe maybe they're not as high 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.800 on these guys as we as I am. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.320 Maybe it'll also just be a burden hand situation where 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.520 it's like, hey, we know this guy, he's been here 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.960 four years, he's one of the best pass rushing defensive 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.280 interior lineman. We're okay with putting that twenty million dollars 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.280 per year price tag on him, rather than hey, you know, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.160 whoever you draft, whether they feel like Walter Nolan is 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.480 a steal at twelve or or they feel like it's 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.240 a reach at twelve, it would still be a guy 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:14.520 that they'd be taking a chance on at the end 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.320 of the day, rather than a guy that they already 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.200 know that's been in the building for four years. They 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.440 could still feel pretty good about this defensive tackle class. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.440 And you know, who's to say that they don't still 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:23.760 get one in the first couple of days. 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.679 Well, I hope they do. I hope they do. I 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.559 just was wondering though, from what you guys thought about that, 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.360 you know, spending money at a very very deep position. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.480 That's that's the only reason I brought that up. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.240 I understand your concern. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.560 Yeah, but I think that Nick, well, it's not a concern, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:39.439 it's just a question. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.280 Well, I understand your question there. I think Knick's line 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:43.920 of thinking is right. Where you keep the guy who's 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.959 been a shirt commodity for you. This guy has played 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.360 in every game that he's. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:48.040 Been in Dallas. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.040 Question the health of the availability is something that he's had. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.920 He started I think sixty three straight games. So you know, 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.360 you keep a guy who has been in the building 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.120 and now you know, gets to work with a guy 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.840 who prioritizes his position and sure one of the best 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.760 in the league of that position. Well, like I said, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.240 if they took a defensive tackle with at twelve, if 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.760 they feel really good about a guy or forty four 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.000 or even in the third I wouldn't feel bad about 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.600 that at all. I think, I mean, look at what 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.680 Philadelphia just did in the Super Bowl. I mean they 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.120 were deep at the position. Yeah, and it absolutely completely 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.760 changes how you can play the game. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.760 I mean one of the top available free agents right 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.360 now is Milton Millon Williams exactly. I mean, they've they've 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.560 elevated his draft stock even to get to that point. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.560 I like I said, I agree that it has to 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.520 be asked and the question has to be asked, but 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.599 apparently it was enough to answer. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.560 Oh no, they're fine. Are the issues that the Cowboys 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.880 have run into is second contracts? Yeah, they have not 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.880 always got the bang for the buck in the second 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.760 contract and so you know that My hope is that 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.560 that they actually this one that that starts the trend 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:53.520 going the other way, and. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.520 They were proactive with it too, which is another thing 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.600 they haven't done and has led. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:58.920 To that across the board. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.959 So different couple of options there with os Digizua and company. 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:03.800 Uh. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.760 There was a story that I heard last week on 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.120 O SO SO that I think is is kind of fascinating. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.880 Okay mentioned he has missed one game and his Cowboys career. 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.680 It was one and it was in his rookie season. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.560 He had gotten a massage and the massage therapist had 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.240 COVID and he was just being a good teammate and 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.440 being a good you know, rookie and he's like, hey, guys, like, 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.160 I just want to let y'all know. He's like, shut 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:25.560 up if you weren't supposed to tell us. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:26.319 So they had to. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.959 They had to keep him out of a game in contact, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:30.760 uh with with somebody who had COVID. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.720 So like, he's really never responsible teammate. 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.040 Yeah, responsible, good, good, good guy. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.240 That's why they brought him back. Yeah. Great, it's a 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:38.680 great locker room guy. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:39.240 Uh. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.040 The NFL Combine, of course in the review mirror, a 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.520 couple of standouts from there. Tommy, you made the trip 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.040 out there, Nick, you were out there for a little bit. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.280 You're wearing her Indianapolis jack. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:48.880 Yeah. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.240 I like an NBA All Star game yep, with a 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.920 little racing flair to it too. Uh yeah, So, I 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.280 mean who improved their draft stock? We just heard about, uh, 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.360 what you you have with guys like Graham and Grant 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.720 and what they've done at the NFL Combine. But what 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.760 about the rest of the group. Anybody else stick out 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:07.960 to you? 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.840 Tommy? What position do you want anyone? Okay overall stand up? 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.040 Well, well, we'll talk about defensive tackles. This is a 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.000 guy that you brought up Kyle Tyree and Ingram Dawkins 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:21.439 from Georgia six five and seventy six pounds ran a 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.600 four to eight six forty thirty six inch vert at 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.880 that size, that's that's pretty impressive. Two hundred and seventy 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.120 six pounds A little light, but you know, if you're 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.600 looking for, if we're talking about the Cowboys liking guys 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.880 maybe later on in the draft at that position and 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.640 they want to get some depth later on, I think 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:38.920 Ingram Dawkins can. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:39.560 Be that for you. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.360 Jalen Nole from Iowa State, the wide receiver. A lot 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.120 of talk about Jayden Higgins being that big outside target, 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.560 and people are starting to find out now about Jaylen Nole. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.520 Bobby put out a Bobby Belt put out a good 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.839 tweet yesterday about how everything we've heard about the guys, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.960 he's a great leader, and I think that's that sentiment 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.240 is correct. You know, I remember talking to Jalen at 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.079 Big twelve media days a couple of years ago when 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.680 I was covering Texas, and you can tell that he 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.199 kind of comes across as a light but then from 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.160 a testing perspective four three nine in the forty eleven 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.600 twelve in the in the broad jump and forty one 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.080 and a half inch vertical jump, so I think that 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.640 you could see him jump into the day two picture, 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.600 and he maybe even goes earlier in the day. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.200 Two picture than you would think. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.120 And then Quinn shown Judkins running back from Ohio State. 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.520 I thought had a very good combine, you know, I 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.760 know the speed element of his Can he break away? 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.560 Can he finish those long runs? It was a big 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.240 question that was looming over and runs a four to 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.120 four to eight forty not the best, but certainly not horrible. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.480 And then from an athletic standpoint, thirty eight and a 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.320 half vertical jump, eleven feet in the broad jump at 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.240 six one and twenty one pounds. So it's a deep 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.920 running back class, but I think Judkins moved himself up 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.160 maybe a couple of spots. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.400 Yeah, I agree, those are some good names to throw 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.120 out there. I want to stick with the receiver position 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.560 at Matthew Golden running at four to eight four nine, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.600 Maxwell Harriston running a four to two eight as well, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.640 the corner out of Kentucky. You know, that's a guy 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.400 that I think probably stamped a placement right around in 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.240 the late twenties to early thirties as far as where 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.280 he could go on draft weekend. Shamar Stewart is an 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.160 interesting case because he had he only had four and 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.480 a half sacks of production during his entire career at 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.560 Texas A and M. But you see him generating pressure, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.880 you see him being active in the run game. You 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.200 see that size coming around and ceiling the edge, and 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.120 then he has this combine that just kind of blows 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.040 everybody out of the water. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.800 It's like, oh, this is our top fifteen guy. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.920 Yeah, but no, I feel like you could get some 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.040 other better value in the top fifteen if we're talking 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.400 that specifically personally, if we're talking about the edge position, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.800 you know, I'm more of a Mikel Williams guy than 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.320 a Shamar Stewart guy. We're talking the top fifteen, even 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.560 I know there's some other edges that are probably further 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.520 than the first round. I have a first round great 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.000 on Donovan as a ryaku out of Boston College. I 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.520 might be on an island on that sense, but I 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.680 think he is a hell of a pass rusher. Obviously 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.840 not as big as Shamar Stewart or Mikel Williams, but 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:57.720 I just feel like there's some other guys in that 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.640 range you could work with, but I still he's still 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.600 a winner from the combine. Also, want to take a 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.960 look at Terrence Ferguson, the tight end out of Oregon 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.720 had a really great combine as well. You look at 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.960 the size on him, six' five. OVER i believe he 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.200 came in over two fifty and had a great. Workout 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.120 that's a guy who's probably stamped his placement as a 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.600 day two. PICK i really liked WHAT i saw From Terrence. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.800 Ferguson and you know The cowboys tight end is on the. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.320 Board when Is when is tight end on the? 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:24.760 Board is the? 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.520 Question is it something you take a swing on on day? Three, like, 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:28.560 hey we got this six? 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.560 Round Come they're going to make everybody mad and take 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:31.880 one at at in the. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.920 Third exactly they Take they Take Terrence ferguson and pair 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.160 out The Ferguson. Bros for the next few. Years you, 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:38.720 know how how does? That how does that work? 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.080 Out i'm going to talk about real quick about Uh 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:49.360 ursery From. Minnesota oh, Yeah, Arion yeah, yeah. Righty and 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.240 there's no extra. Syllables the the thing about him is 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.520 AND i AND i GUESS i meet. Personally these guys 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.720 have got to show me that they played the way 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.480 they test on. Tape if you don't do, That i'm 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.080 not going to sit there and massively swing you up 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.680 and down that. Board But urser is a guy that's 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.240 interesting just for the fact that he tested much better 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.160 at three hundred and thirty one pounds than he. PLAYS 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.199 i do think And i'm Maybe i'm alone on. THIS 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.119 i know that watched AND i go back and forth 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:21.919 about this one little. BIT i think this is a 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.359 slow footed, guy and you watch him coming out of his, 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.080 stance and there's times he does he doesn't get away 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.800 from the line particularly. Well but he tested like a 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.240 guy that could be that type of. Player but you, 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.280 know you've got to show me that you could play 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.879 at these, speeds or you got to show me that 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:42.600 you can play at this your your, power your, level 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.480 your verticals and your broad, jump you, know the short. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.800 SHUTTLES a great example to me is AND i was 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.879 watching the running back From Texas tech AND i was 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.480