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If you are a new just 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: download the fan Duel sports Book app to get started 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: now side up with promo code Colin so they know 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: we sent you. What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff, 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: We're going with a little go low. We're doing little 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: golf podcasts. Here's the plane, have a couple of golf takes. Uh. 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: I will do a football pod cast this week. If 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: the NFL litigates, I don't I don't even know if 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: that's the right word. If there is a suspension handed 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: down on Deshaun Watson, which it sounds like there will be, Uh, 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: then we'll have a three and out podcast. And I 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna have much next week, 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: maybe a golf podcast in the middle of the week 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: if more of these live defectors happened, but probably no 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: football podcast as of right now. So this is enjoy 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: the summer. This is when you guys don't listen. I mean, 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the metrics speak for themselves over the years, and uh, 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: I just I'm taked out and I need a little 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: time to not think about talking. There's my phone is 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: so many spam calls. It's like Apple, Facebook. I don't 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: know who's giving out our number, but literally every human 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: alive that runs spam companies has all of our numbers. 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: It is pretty nuts. I mean I remember growing up. 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: You remember when we had like house phones, um, and 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: you get like one a week that now you get 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: seventeen a day. It's fucking outrageous. It really is. Uh 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: kind of like Greg Norman and what he's done to 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: the PGA tour. So again, if something happens with Shaun Watson, 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: I'll have a three and Out podcast out this week, 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: which it does feel like it's gonna happen. And then 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: of course at Golo Pod if you have any golf questions, 39 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: fire into my d M s on on Instagram. Three 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: and Out is just my own at John Middlecoff. You 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: got any questions, I'm gonna need you. It's just we 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: don't have anything going on for the next month. Football 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: is on a complete pause, so fire in those direct messages. 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: And I there was a big name and and I 45 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: love this. I've seen a lot of this when Keptko 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: went like, oh, Keptka's just washed. That's not a big get. 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Now he's won four majors, four majors. He's easily one 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: of the most famous guys in the PGA Tour. He 49 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: won the Waste Management last year. He was in the 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: final group with Phil at Kiowa last year. So yeah, 51 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: he's been hasn't had a great six months, but he's 52 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: easily one of the more famous guys on tour. He's 53 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: a Ryder Cup member and he's an absolute stone cold 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: killer when it's mattered. Historically, they landed a legend. He 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: has doubled the amount of majors that DJ has, and 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I would say most people consider DJ the more historic players. 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Career has been longer. Kepta's got four, DJ's got two 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: and listen, I I bet on DJ to win that 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: Masters in the fall, but that was not a normal 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Master's I mean right, he set the scoring record that 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: will never be shattered unless they have it again in 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: the fall, which two thousand twenty was a weird time, 63 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: but it's a really big deal getting Kepta. Matt Wolf 64 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: obviously nowhere nearly as accomplished as Brooks. Kepka is a 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: twenty three year old that just two years ago when Morikawa, 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: Victor hovlind and him we're all becoming pros. They all 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: basically left college of the same year. If this was 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: the NFL, those three guys would have been in tox 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: to be the number one pick in the draft, Matt 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: Wolf calling Morikawa Victor Hovlin. Now two and a half 71 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: years later we have evidence Colin what should have been 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the number one pick, and Hoveland, who has one more 73 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: tournaments than Matt Wolf, has not had any major success. 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: Don't forget Matt Wolf played in the final group with 75 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: Bryson d Shambot Wingfoot. He finished T four at Harding Park, 76 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: the one that Colin Moore colin one. He also has 77 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: one a PGA Tour event. Now he has not been 78 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: good for a year a year and a half. He's 79 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: fallen off a cliff and he actually has been very 80 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: outspoken about his mental issues. Right that being a PGA 81 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Tour player, being a professional athlete at twenty two is hard. 82 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: You're on your own, you have all this money. It's 83 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: fucking lonely. It's not like the college atmosphere. It really 84 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: kind of rattled him and threw him off, which is 85 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: somewhat ironic because now he's going to work for the Sadis, 86 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: which at any moment, weird things could happen. It could 87 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: get weird. But I also, I have been consistent on this. 88 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't blame any of these guys for taking an 89 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: astronomical amount of money. I know there are some figures 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: out there for a bnswer who's a top twenty player 91 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: that he's not getting kept Bryson money. But you're talking 92 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: sixty seventy seventy five million dollars. What was a b 93 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: answer is supposed to say, no, I'm good, you know, 94 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: I'll just keep playing the PGA Tour making my five million. 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: That's easy for Aiming Lynch and everyone with the Golf 96 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Channel to say, who is just are very tied to 97 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. It's another thing in reality when you 98 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: get the phone call and say, hey, hey, I got 99 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars for you. I'm going to send 100 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: that you want that by a C H. Or do 101 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: you want us to send you a check? How would 102 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: you like that cash? Because until you get that call, 103 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: none of us can relate to that feeling. And listen, 104 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: I respect the top guy from Texas just went on 105 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: record to say that he turned down millions of dollars. 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: The amateur, right, the guy that just finished I think 107 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: the kid from Stanford who just finished fourth at the Travelers, 108 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: another guy who reportedly has turned down a lot of money. 109 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: So I I respect it, but I I have no 110 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: issue with anyone getting the call. It's one thing if 111 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: they offered you ten million dollars and you're worth a 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: hundred fifty million dollars, it's like it would be a 113 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: pain in the ass. It's another thing when you've got 114 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: ten million dollars in the bank and they offer you 115 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: seventy five. Because people, and here's my issue with the media, 116 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: who has been on their moral high horse with this stuff. 117 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: No group of people and I repeat none in America 118 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: and any profession leave more jobs consistently and jump around 119 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: for money like the media. Look at the golf media, 120 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: They've all worked for like seven different people I know 121 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: in football media all over the place. It's just a 122 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: reality of the profession. Now you can say where this 123 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: money is coming from is really shady and Matt Wolf, 124 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, does he mentally have it together enough to 125 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: handle the smoke that's coming because he's gonna play at 126 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: Pumpkin Ridge this week. But here's what's not disputable. Greg 127 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: Norman has made incredible in roads in a short period 128 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: of time. Now. He's been able to do that because 129 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: of the amount of money the Siddies have funded him. 130 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Right that he has an unlimited bank account. And when 131 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: you have an unlimited bank account in the business world, 132 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: you can make sh it happen because there are no 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: hurdles for you. The reason most of us have hurdles 134 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: in any business is because you don't have the resources. 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: It's why these tech companies over the last decade or whatever, 136 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: they got so much money in seed money from the 137 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: vcs that they could hire people, they could acquire businesses, 138 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: they had the cash. That's why a lot of small 139 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: businesses is why it disgusted me over the treatment of 140 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: them the last couple of years. They don't have the help, 141 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: they don't have the money, and it's hard to overcome 142 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: that well, decide eas and live have, as we know, 143 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: a stupid amount of money. And it ain't over. I mean, 144 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: there are rumors flying that Tommy Fleetwood is joining uh, 145 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: Carlos Ortiz. By the time you're listening to this, I'm 146 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: recording this on Monday morning might already be there. And 147 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: the reality is with Ortiz, there was supposed to be 148 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: a Latino community of group of four of them led 149 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: by Joaqin Neeman or Ties Monos and Meto Pereira as 150 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: basically a package deal and Joaukee Neeman it's kind of flown, 151 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: flown under the radar, like there hasn't been much buzz 152 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: about it. Maybe it's just simply because he's in the 153 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: mix to make a lot of FedEx money. Are we're 154 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: sure he's not just gonna play that out and jump 155 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: And again I don't blame him. He's just playing the 156 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: game of the business that he's in and if he 157 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: gets top five or six in the FedEx when it 158 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: all shakes out, that's a lot of money. So he 159 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: basically can double dip, something NFL coaches do all the time. 160 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: Every human I've ever met loves to double dip. Have 161 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: you ever left a job and still getting paid while 162 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: you're getting paid by the other job. Welcome to Welcome 163 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: to society, Welcome to reality. So this thing is like 164 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: you can bemoan Matt Wolfe, like, not that big a deal. 165 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: You mean a twenty three year old that has multiple 166 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: top five finishes and majors are are we? Are we crazy? 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: Who was the Haskin Award winner, which is basically the 168 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: heisman for college golfers. It's like that that's a really 169 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: big loss. You can't keep losing these young people. And 170 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: I'll say this for Norman. They're all over the right amateurs. 171 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: Now some guys, and I know the guy from Texas 172 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: said that, like, my dream was not to be a 173 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: live player. My dream was to play on the PGA Tour. 174 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: And he also said my dream was to play on 175 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: the American Tour. And I think one thing when you 176 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: talk to cat rual people that don't know that much 177 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: about live they're not playing golf in Saudi Arabia. The 178 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: majority of the tournaments are in America. This week. They're 179 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: playing in Portland, they're playing in Florida, they're playing in Chicago. 180 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: It's a state. It's gonna be the majority of their 181 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: tournaments are gonna be here in the States. So once 182 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: these guys realize the cash is getting handed out. I 183 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: saw Brandon Shamble was getting after it on Twitter with 184 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Michael Collins, the caddy, basically saying what what I had 185 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of heard is that some guys, if they give 186 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: you twenty million dollars, some of that money is allocated 187 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: like a like an advance. So if you win one 188 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: of these tournaments, you don't actually win four million dollars, 189 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: or maybe you win two and part of that your advance. 190 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: He claimed that Charles Swartzer that was not his deal. 191 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: He got four point seven five million dollars two weeks ago. 192 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: So as this money continue continues to get allocated and 193 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: handed out. Once Matt Wolf and you know, Bryson de 194 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Shambo and these guys start cash and checks, other guys 195 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: are coming that this is only the beginning, and every 196 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: single week that these guys quote unquot defect over there, 197 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: major major blow for Jay Monahan. He he's very lucky 198 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: to have some top players, you know, kind of pounding 199 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: the table, but I don't know how long that will last. 200 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Henrik Stenson is the Ryder Cup captain next year, 201 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: he is reportedly potentially gonna give up his captaincy again. 202 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: He is the captain, he's in charge right now to 203 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: go to Live Golf basically waive it. Why I'm sure 204 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: they're giving him a lot of money and historically for 205 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: these euros, the right being a Ryder Cup captain is 206 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: a really big deal. No no different for the Ai 207 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: Singers and the Steve Strickers. It's it's a really big 208 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: deal for whoever in the business of golf. If he 209 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: does that, like, that's a that's a seis nic earthquake 210 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: to the UH to the setup of the business model 211 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: and one of the only things they have because the 212 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: majors are clearly letting all these guys in. So if 213 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup, like if eventually they got to relinquish 214 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: that and give into that or guys just don't care. 215 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: We got problems. And then speaking of and listen, the 216 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: one thing Live is never gonna a half is what 217 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: you saw at the Farmer's open excuse me, the travelers 218 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: the farmers this week, the travelers with a guy like 219 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: Thangala who you know, I happened to have a tend 220 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: to one made it made a g Now the problem 221 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: is I had a bunch of money on Joel Damon 222 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: and Davis Riley, so I basically only made a couple 223 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: hundred bucks. But uh, Whinning's winning. You know, I'm starting 224 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: to dabble a lot more in the top tens. I 225 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: think it's way easier to do that and make some 226 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: coin than it is to pick the winners. As we know, 227 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: it's very very difficult. Now, last week was Choco, I 228 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: mean Xander winning, But think about that, Zander a Ryder 229 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: Cup stalwart. He was the gold medalist in UM. That 230 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: wasn't in China two years ago, or maybe it was 231 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: Japan UM, and he's a star in America. Now we 232 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: can say he's underachieved a little bit, should have won more, 233 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: and even he said it's been a long time for 234 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: the Winter Circle. But it's basically him coming down the 235 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: stretch and Thagala and there is nothing like watching this 236 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: blue chip young guy like Wolf was, like more Cow was, 237 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: like Hovland was, like Scottie Scheffler was, like Sam Burns 238 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: was attempting to get their first win. There is drama 239 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: on that on Sunday coming down the back nine. I'm 240 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: on multiple text threads like it's just cool. And that 241 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: is one thing that the PGA Tour has that winning 242 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour is a big deal. And the 243 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: only reason winning on the Lift Tour is a big 244 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: deal is because the amount of money you get, which 245 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: ultimately I enjoy that. I like talking about it, but 246 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how much the casual fan truly cares. 247 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Did he win two million? Did he win three and 248 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: a half million? Who cares? You know, It's kind of 249 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: like your fantasy team. But watching the guy attempt to 250 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: win the golf tournament hold up the trophy, to me, 251 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: never gets old. And that is kind of a point. 252 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: If the if the PGA Tour can get their cash 253 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: flow up, which again not quite sure what Jamnahan's been 254 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: doing for years. Uh And I'm not saying Phil was 255 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: correct on everything he said, but one thing he was 256 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: right on, like, come on, man, we need bigger share 257 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: of this pie and you gotta figure out how to 258 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: divvy that ship up. Roger Goodell would have, David Stern 259 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: would have, and those two guys in my lifetime or 260 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: the two greatest commissioners we've ever seen in terms of 261 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: revenue generation and everyone getting filthy rich like I always 262 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: thought everyone on the PGA Tour was getting rich. Turns 263 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: out not rich enough, you know everyone. As I was 264 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: texting with a buddy who is involved kind of with 265 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour and very close a lot of the 266 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: top players, he said, the number one thing Jay Monahan 267 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: did was underestimate the power of money. Was underestimate the 268 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: power of people desire for more money. It's an inherent 269 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Twitter makes like no cash is overrated bullshit. It makes 270 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: life way easier. Whether if you've got a hundred, you'd 271 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: rather have three hundred, you've got three hundred, you rather 272 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: have eight hundred. That's how we all are wired, especially 273 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: alpha high achievers, which the PGA Tour is full of. 274 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: And that's a big reason they're losing a lot of 275 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: these guys because they're coming in at numbers way low. Now. 276 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Having guys like Thagala, the first thing I think he's 277 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: a guy that's eventually gonna win. It's it's a lock 278 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: him and Davis Riley are gonna win. And as you 279 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: continue betting on these guys, when you can get him 280 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: at fifties, sixties, seventy two one. But if I'm Greg Norman, 281 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm going all in on guys like that, and if 282 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: you keep losing guys like that, that is where we 283 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: get to the big picture problem. Now, the problem for 284 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: Live is ultimately the PGA Tour, like the Gala, is 285 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: becoming a star would be strong but a household name 286 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: in the sport of golf because the waste management, because 287 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: of the travelers, because he's been in the mix now 288 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: against Sander, against Kempka, against Scottie Scheffler, like now you're 289 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: starting to see his name with the big dogs, and 290 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour creates these people. But is it ultimately 291 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: gonna become kind of minor league e where the PGA 292 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: Tour creates the star and then Norman and the Saudi 293 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: steal you. Because that's kind of what it feels like 294 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: where it has potential to go. Now, I don't know 295 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: exactly how it works. Once these guys pay someone an 296 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: older player like a Lee Westwood fifty million dollars, well 297 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: in a couple of years ago, if Lee Westwood sucks, 298 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: can they boot him off the tour, off the lift 299 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: tour and and take us you know, if they get 300 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: a Thagala, if they get a Davis Riley, if they 301 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: need a spot and you can say, well, that's terrible business, 302 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: and you could also say, well maybe they don't care 303 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: about money. So I really enjoyed that tournament watching Tagala. 304 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we all can relate to fucking up 305 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: on hole eight, team with a chance to win something. 306 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: Now ultimately him thinning the whatever it was, eight iron wedge. 307 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: I had it on mute. Uh sucked. I mean that 308 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: that that hurts. But Xander birdie the whole so he 309 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: would have had the par to just get into the playoffs. 310 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: So to me, it's easier to stomach. He double bogie 311 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: the whole. He lost by several shots. It's like it 312 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: kind of felt like, what's Zander doing? Like Zander needs 313 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: to win more? You know, he just he's he's too 314 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: talented of a golfer. The PGA Tour needs him to 315 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: win more, you know, because he kind of gets talked 316 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: about fairer not in the group of players that are 317 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: much more accomplished than him. Like google how many times 318 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: Jordan's one, Google how many times jts one? You know, 319 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: you see what you wanted about keeptical, Like he wins 320 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: majors now Xander's finished very high and a lot of majors, 321 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: but like he's honestly closer to Ricky's career than he 322 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: is the other guys that I just mentioned. So I'm 323 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: glad to see him, uh see him finally win a tournament. 324 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: And like I said that, there is there anything more 325 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: relatable than Meato pumping in the water in eighteen fagala, 326 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, thinning an iron shot in a in a 327 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: fairway bunker and not not the ball not going anymore 328 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: than five inches. Like that is why I like ultimately 329 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: watching Justin Jefferson catch a touchdown or Steph Curry hit 330 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: a fade away three, like we can't relate to that. 331 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: But the one thing progol like they still hit a shank. 332 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: How many guys this week Rory Pump went out of bounce, 333 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: Jordan Pump went out of bounce. It is the one 334 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: sport that we all still get to play as we 335 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: ate in our thirties or forties or fifties or sixties. 336 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: And then while we don't hit a lot of the 337 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: great shots like they do, they still hit a lot 338 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: of the crappy shots like we do. 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Okay, let's 366 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: get to the mail bag at Golo Pod at Golo 367 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: Pod fire in those d M s. Any question you got, 368 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: hit me and we talk um from Jackson. I played 369 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: Pumpkin Ridge, which Hollow earlier this month, which was the 370 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: site of the Tigers ninety six amateur victory in this 371 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: week's first live event in America. The course was the 372 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: hardest I've ever played with us open rough and I 373 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: want to get your take on this. Does the PGA 374 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: Tour really expect the consumer to watch the fucking John 375 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: Dear Classic over in Dependence Day without Justin Thomas and 376 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: Roy McIlroy. I mean, seriously, my entire life. The tour 377 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: has avoided the Pacific Northwest, which has a lot of 378 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: great courses. So to be completely honest, I'm actually gonna 379 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: get to see some of the great names in golf 380 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: like Lefty, Kepta de Jambo this week instead of lousy 381 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: PGA Tour field. I hope this I opening to the 382 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: PGA Tour and they really can't compete with live I agree. 383 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean the John Deere Classics joke. So you put 384 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: that up against your right of course that we are 385 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: not used to watching with the field that none of 386 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: the top guys are playing in the John Deere. So 387 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: you get Lefty, you get dj you get de Chambo, 388 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: you get Kepta, Like I mean, this is this is 389 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: where Norman is going to continue to make the in roads. Now, 390 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: clearly you're from that area, so you're passionate about Like, 391 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: I don't care necessarily where you're playing. I care more 392 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: about the fields, you know. I mean again, I live 393 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: in California, so obviously we get a lot of tournaments 394 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: out here. But you know, whether they go to Chambers 395 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: Bay again, or they go to Abandoned Dunes or Pumpkin Ridge, 396 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: or they playing floor, it doesn't matter to me. I 397 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: care about the field. It's like I watched Sunday Night 398 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: Football because it's Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Right, I'm 399 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: watching the Yankees play show Aotani. I'm not watching the 400 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: Magic play the fucking Knicks, right, I I don't want 401 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: to watch. You know, the Texans play the Jacks on 402 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: Sunday at ten am. But you tell me, you know 403 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's playing Matt Stafford. I'm in. You know, you 404 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: tell me Roy McElroy, j T. Scotty Scheffler are teeing 405 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: it up. I'm in, But you give me the John 406 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Deer Classic. Like that's why I'm doing the pod right now. 407 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: I do not I told sobel Like we'll just we'll 408 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: reconvene in a couple of weeks. Like I'm not gambling 409 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: on the John Deer Classic. I just do not care. Well, 410 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: you know I might, but I just I'm with you 411 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: so that the PGA Tour has gotta figure it out. 412 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: And I saw what's his name, the Irish guy who's 413 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: on the Golf channel during the US Open said the 414 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: biggest problem the sport of golf has is we have 415 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: no clue who's gonna play and win Honestly, it's an 416 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: NBA problem. Like if if I turn on the Lakers 417 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: and Lebron James resting, that a nephew to me as 418 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: a consumer. If I turn on the game and their 419 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: star players are resting like that, that's a huge reason 420 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: the NBA has lost a lot of viewers. We don't 421 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: we don't know when I know a lot of friends 422 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: that have gone to games back in like the Kevin 423 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: Durant Steph Courier, and they would just be sitting like that. 424 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: If I go to an NFL game and I'm going 425 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: to the Bills game and I'm going to the Bill's Dolphins, 426 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: I know everyone I know too is playing. I know, 427 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: I'm not that I care, but Tyreek kill, Josh Allen, 428 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: all their star players are gonna play unless they're injured. 429 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: Where in in golf, no clue and in basketball, same deal. 430 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: So I I hear you there, someone, It's pretty crazy 431 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: that if you play as an amateur that you don't 432 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: get paid, which is a longstanding rule in the sport 433 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: of golf. It's just the reality. But like last week, 434 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: the Stanford guy finishes fourth, he does not get money, 435 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of people like, well, he's a rich 436 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: kid from Massachusetts. He's going to Stanford. Listen, I don't 437 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: care how much money you're worth. You play a league 438 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: golf for four days and that spot gets four hundred 439 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars and they skip you. That's that'd be 440 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: hard one to stomach. Could you explain the whole amateur 441 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: versus pro status and why amateurs can't get paid. It 442 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: seems like if they play in a tournament all square 443 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: without benefit of handicap, they should get paid. I agree. 444 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: I think it has to do with like collegiance status, 445 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: but I'm not quite sure on that. I mean, there's 446 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: just a reason, like in gymnastics and some of these 447 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: sports that I don't know. I I'm the wrong guy 448 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: to ask, but I know in golf it's just a 449 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: longstanding rule if you're an amateur, you're just not gonna 450 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: get any money, which again would uh it's one of 451 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: those things that's like no big deal and then you 452 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: actually win a lot of money. I would be hot, 453 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: I I really would. Um. I wonder if the reason 454 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: this guy's keeping his amateur status because he wants to 455 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: play in the U S Amateur this summer, which would 456 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: be my guests, I I didn't. I didn't have a 457 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: lot of the broadcast audio on I don't know if 458 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: they talked about that. I saw someone DM me like, 459 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: can you believe that they didn't mention this on Sunday? 460 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: They doesn't make any money. My biggest issue with the 461 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: PGA Tour is in terms of their broadcast. Beside the commercials, 462 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: which they love their money because they set up a 463 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: million commercials, they never talk about money, like we all 464 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: play golf, whether it's for ten dollars, whether it's for 465 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: a hundred dollars, whether it's for ten tho dollars. A 466 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: whole the money conversation is a huge part of the 467 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: sport and their consumer. Like ten million people don't watch 468 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: golf tournaments a couple million people. Their consumer is a 469 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: highering consumer. I would imagine their consumer in terms of 470 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: demo household income is double all the other sports. So 471 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: these people are wealthy. Just talk about cash, talk about 472 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: how much money these guys are ruining. It's interesting you 473 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: couldn't pay Jim Nance to discuss that, even though Jim 474 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: Nance has paid millions of dollars to talk on TV. 475 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: It's it's very bizarre and it's something that they need 476 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: to improve. Uh So, I do think the reason that 477 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: he didn't play as a professional again could be wrong. 478 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: They might have discussed this wasn't listening. Is because he 479 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: wants to play in the U S Amateur this summer 480 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: and then turn pro, which a lot of guys do. 481 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Roy plan. His best golf is quite in quite a while. 482 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: Makes you wonder how much of this is tied to live. 483 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: It's almost like he needs something to play for more 484 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: than dudes on tour. When COVID hit and there were 485 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: no fans, his game dropped off like a cliff. Now 486 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: they are back and he has added incentive of wanting 487 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: to stick it to Norman and he looks like Rory 488 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: of old. Yeah, he clearly ran out of gas. Uh 489 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: he was, He was leading the tournament and he pumped 490 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: it ob and took a quad and then he was 491 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: never the same. But I'm with you. You know some people, 492 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: you know, it's most guys are not Tiger Woods and 493 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Elon Musk where they have an unlimited 494 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: amount of money, like literally everywhere they go everything is free. 495 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: I remember someone describing they told me the story they 496 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: read about this billionaire. And then someone asked him like 497 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: at a on a panel, what's it like? Can you 498 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: describe being a billionaire? And he said, you know, not 499 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: trying to be arrogant. Everywhere he goes everything is free. Now, 500 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, Tiger technically a billionaire. Brady, 501 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: you know him and his wife probably are guys like 502 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: Elon clearly are Everything they do is free, right because 503 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: there is no amount of money they can spend on 504 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: stuff to ruin the amount of money they have. So 505 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: to have the drive. If I just looked at my 506 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: bank account right now and I had a hundred and 507 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars, let's just pick a number, it's enormous, 508 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: and I would never have to work again. I don't 509 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: have to do anything like ultimately, what would I do now? 510 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: I would get bored fast. I'm not one of those guys. 511 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I could vacation for a little bit, but 512 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: I already play a lot of golf. Uh, you know, 513 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: I work. I don't have that any hot Like what 514 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: else would I do? So to keep the drive when 515 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: you have an unlimited amount of money. I have a 516 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: ton of admiration for people like that, and sometimes just 517 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: the way you're wired. Rory became so rich so fast, 518 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's necessarily quote unquote driven by money, 519 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: or he would have gotten to live they offered him 520 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: five hundred plus million dollars. But I do think that, 521 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: like you have a kid, you start getting older, your 522 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: prospective in life changes. It's just sometimes you need new motivation. 523 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: Like I sometimes I wish something crazy would happen in 524 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: my life to create a little motivation. Professionally every once 525 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: a while kind of Joe Chin into gear and whether 526 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: it was the live thing that's motivated him, whether it 527 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: was just kind of relaxing a little bit. He's talked 528 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: about that he looks like a fucking badass right now. 529 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's clearly to me the best player in 530 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: the world. Um, I just I honestly don't think it's 531 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: that close. I don't know Scheffler has had a better season. 532 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: But if you told me for fifty million dollars, Rory 533 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: Verse Scottie Scheffler one on one all week like I 534 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: had been on Rory, especially if there were some like 535 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: he could talk about live when it was all said 536 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: and done, Uh love the pod. So this was the 537 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: beginning segment for the PGA Tour Live broadcast. Where the 538 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: announcers start the day. I doubt they want to advertise 539 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: the live in any way, But here we are just 540 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: screenshot this from my phone while I played two kp 541 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: g A and got in the mood for tomorrow's ten 542 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: thirty tea time. I agree that. I mean the PGA 543 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: tour people are talking about live NonStop. And this gets 544 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: back to Norman like he's made a lot of in 545 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: roads and it's not dying at all. Everywhere I go, 546 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: even casual golf people they know about it. They're talking 547 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: about it because it intersects everything. A ton of money politics, 548 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: just Greg Norman, these guys leaving. UM. I I'm fascinated 549 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: by the story. I mean, I think it's the most 550 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: interesting story to have in sports in a long time. 551 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: Does LIV want to take everybody or just the top guys? 552 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: Why aren't more middle of the pack players jumping at 553 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: the chance to make guaranteed cash. If you're a guy 554 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: ranked fifty to a hundred and probably will never win 555 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: a major, I don't see any reason to not take 556 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: the money. I jumped ship in a heartbeat. It makes 557 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: no sense now if LIV doesn't want to pay for 558 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: lower middle class tier players, there I guess those players 559 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: have no choice but to stay with the PGA. But 560 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: if liv wants them and they're refusing, yeah, I don't. 561 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: I don't think they're willing to pay a lot of 562 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: money for the older accomplished guys the Westwoods, the Poulter's, Sergio, 563 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: that group, and obviously Phil let It and then a 564 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: lot of the famous younger players. And when I say younger, 565 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: like under forty, So I don't necessarily like, let's just 566 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: pick a random guy Kevin Kissner like Pat Perez, Now 567 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: he would fall in the older group too, he's in 568 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: his mid forties. But let's you is Kisner? If if 569 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: they offered Kisner ten million dollars, is it worth it 570 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: for kidsn er to go for ten million dollars? And 571 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: is he worth it to live for liketty million dollars? 572 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: Probably not. So I would imagine a lot of these 573 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: guys are getting numbers where it would be a large 574 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 1: sum of money, but is it really worth it, Like 575 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: they could ultimately make ten million dollars by continue to 576 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: play on the PGA tour, they don't have to get 577 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: involved in this crazy political craziness. So I do think 578 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: that the fifty to a hundred guys, they're probably not 579 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: offering They're probably offering a number that it's easier for 580 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: those guys to at least ultimately say no. Now it 581 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: might be tough at first, but when they factor in 582 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: the next several years of earning power, they can say no. 583 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: That's why I think they're going after the younger amateur. 584 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 1: As a kid from Texas. I would imagine they're all 585 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: over this guy from Stanford and they're trying to offer 586 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: them money to get them to come. And I would 587 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: you start sealing the next guy to Scheffler, the next 588 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: the Gala, the next Davis Riley, you start destroying the 589 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: PGA tour internally like that would be a problem. Now 590 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: they've been lucky. These guys have said no. But we'll 591 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: see how long that persists. Because it does feel like, 592 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 1: you know, you can only kind of fight off, like 593 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: if you're cornered by a wild animal who is just 594 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: not scared of anything. Uh, you're gonna have some problems. 595 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: I've listened three and Out for years and I've always 596 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: liked how realistic you are, and I think that's why 597 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: I like your show. In your opinion, do you think 598 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: Live will end up being the downfall of the p 599 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: G A And do you think the new American League 600 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: will model the live going forward. I it's hard to 601 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: kind of see the big picture here of like where 602 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna be at in three or four years, but 603 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: I would say that the PGA tour is uh my 604 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: description has been that there at sea right now, they 605 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: are lost at sea and they have Jaws circling them. 606 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: And you know in the movie Jaws, he was able 607 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: to kill it by putting them basically the bomb in 608 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: his mouth. I don't know if Jamon Han has that capability, 609 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: and I only think Rory Jordan and JT can only 610 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: do so much. So I yeah, I think that they 611 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: have a chance. I don't want to say destroy it, 612 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: but change it forever, and they already have. I mean, 613 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: they're creating some of this new stuff now where that 614 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: leads like I do think Justin Thomas said it best. 615 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: It sucks like ultimately, I don't want to have to 616 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: look over here, look over here. I like everything in 617 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: one spot. I like going to a steakhouse ordering a steak. 618 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: You go to a buffet in theory, it should be 619 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: good even if you go to sweet buffets, and like Vegas. 620 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: You start walking all over. The food actually isn't as good, 621 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: and you get a lot of stuff that you like. 622 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, pizza, I got Chinese food, I got pasta, 623 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: I got a lot going on. It's much easier. Just 624 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: go to a Mexican restaurant and order a couple inch alataus. 625 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're getting and listen. The PGA 626 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: tour has his problems, but at least in a good event, 627 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: I go there Riviera, every sweet players playing now that 628 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: has been few and far between. Besides like riv and 629 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: the players like even Pebble Beach, most of those guys 630 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: now go to Saudis because the Sidi's have been paying them, 631 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: ultimately trying to get him to join this. So it's 632 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: just I think we're at a time of unknown and 633 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: dy and which makes it cool to talk about because 634 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: there are so many different angles, so many people are interested, 635 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: but it also is kind of scary because I don't 636 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to have to watch like seven different events. 637 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, just I just like one event with everyone there. Now, 638 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: again that's selfish. I understand, like I've said, why these 639 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: guys are leaving, but because they got the bag. I 640 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: love that. That's such an NBA term, Like, No, they 641 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: don't fucking pay you in a bag of money. This 642 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: isn't the Italian mob in the nineteen seventies. They wired 643 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: transfer you money. And when they wire transfer your amount 644 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: of money that they're wiring you, you'll over half to 645 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: the government. That's the way it works in the real world. 646 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: This is not you know, Eddie to Bartlow handing the 647 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: bag of money to the Uh, the dude in Mississippi 648 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: trying to get a riverboat casino in n That's it 649 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: doesn't happen anymore yet. Wire transfers that the government knows about, 650 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: and then if they give you fifty, you give them 651 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: twenty seven. Sucks. Uh. I haven't had that problem yet, 652 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: but it's the way it works. I hope everyone is 653 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: having a good day. UM share the podcast. I I 654 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: should have a football podcast out this week if something 655 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: happens with DeShawn Watson. If not, I'll talk to everyone 656 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: soon and hopefully people are enjoying the summer and your family, 657 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: your kids, your lives. Peace. The volume