1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: these people. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: He's not got a free shot. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: All these networks lying about the people, the people have 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: had a belly full of it. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: I know you don't like hearing that. 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: I know you've tried to do everything in the world 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: to stop there, but you're not going to stop it. 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: It's going to happen. 11 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: And where do people like that go to share the 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: big line? 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 4: Mega media? 14 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 5: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 15 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 5: these people had a conscience. 16 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 6: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 17 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 6: If that answer is to save my country, this country. 18 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 4: Will be saved. Here's your host, Stephen Kvas. 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 7: But that chamboree happening right now, you see it there 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 7: on your screen in that place is particularly chill because 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 7: in nineteen thirty nine, more than twenty thousand supporters of 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 7: a different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the garden for 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 7: a so called pro America rally, a rally where speakers 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 7: voiced antisemitic rhetoric from a stage draped with Nazi banners. 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: When a Jewish. 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 7: Protester rushed the stage. The Associated Press reported quote Instantly 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 7: a dozen or more stormtroopers set upon him, knocking him 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 7: down and beating him as he held his head in 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 7: his arms. Most of his clothing was torn from his body. Later, 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 7: he was booked for disorderly conduct. Now, against that backdrop 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 7: of history, Donald Trump, the man who has threatened to 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 7: use the military against opponents he calls enemies from within, 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 7: who has threatened to use the troops to quell what 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 7: he says are lawless cities, and to use those troops 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 7: to carry out mass deportations of immigrants, is once again 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 7: turning Madison Square Garden into a staging ground for extremism. 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: They should virtually be nothing else. We could be nine 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 5: days away from losing our democracy as we know it, 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 5: and yet there are still people complaining about a lack 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 5: of policy details coming from Kamala Harris. Now, don't get 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 5: me wrong, I like policy discussions. I live for the 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 5: detail and the minutia. 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 8: Of public policy. 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 5: But if we lose our democracy to a fascist we 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: will never have those kinds of nuanced and important discussions again. 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 5: Under Trump, we will not be debating climate or universal 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 5: health care or collective bargaining or Gaza. 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 9: This is not a normal election. 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 5: Donald Trump is not a normal candidate. Yet the perception 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 5: and treatment of this election as a normal contest between 51 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 5: competing candidates persists because some of us are not treating 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 5: this with the urgency and the gravity that it deserves. 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 10: What we're seeing it isn't only so much what Donald 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 10: Trump does, it's what his followers do. I think it's 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 10: pretty clear that Donald Trump believes that his followers want 56 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 10: to hear. 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 4: That he will be dictator for. 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 10: A day, or that he will rule in an authoritarian fashion. 59 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 8: Because the more he talks about it. 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 10: The more enthusiasm he seems to have on his side. 61 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 10: So we have to face the reality that a significant 62 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 10: chunk of the American public is in a way weary 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 10: or disguntled with democracy, not just with the Democratic Party, 64 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 10: and are willing to see a strong man take power. 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 11: Matter what happens with the presidential election. We have a 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 11: very big problem with Christian nationalism in the United States today, 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 11: and we can see that not just on the national level, 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 11: but also on the state level. I live in Texas, 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 11: where we have had a concerted push towards authoritarian theocracy 70 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 11: over the last several years. So Christian nationalism remains a 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 11: problem no matter what happens. 72 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 9: On November fifth, Monday, twenty eighth of October and four 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 9: at the Helm, filling in for the last time to 74 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 9: Stephen K. Bannon. We're going to have so much to 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 9: break down on the show today, but I've just got 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 9: to respond to some of this stuff that they were 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 9: saying when they MESNB seeing the cold open. Just now, 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 9: why are they pushing this line so hard, so aggressively, 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 9: and accelerating the tone in the last full week before 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 9: the elections. It's absolutely clear we know the reason is 81 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 9: because the Democrats have no record to stand on. Kamala 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 9: Harris is doing everything shegan to distance herself from Joe Biden, 83 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 9: not being invited out to campaign with her. This is 84 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 9: all they have left. This stick is all they have left. 85 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 9: It's so outrageous. Even Mayor Eric Adams said a couple 86 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 9: of days ago to the Democrats they need to tone 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 9: this rhetoric down about fascism in the Republican Party. Just 88 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 9: a quick rewinding history in twenty eight, there were three 89 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 9: one hundred and forty four counties in the United States 90 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 9: in twenty eight, when Barrett Obama defeated John McCain two 91 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 9: thirds of the and in twenty twelve, when again Obama 92 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 9: defeated Mitt Romney two thirds of all those counties. You 93 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 9: remember that the map, How it was in twenty sixteen 94 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 9: when Trump won two thirds of those counties, voted for 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 9: Barack Obama once out of those two cycles. When Obama 96 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 9: won one third of all your counties in the United States, 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 9: voted for Obama twice in both of those cycles. And then, 98 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 9: as I say, twenty sixteen, it was a sea of 99 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 9: red right this country. Therefore, America did not become white 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 9: nationalist fascist from one moment to the next. This is 101 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 9: an absolute deception that the Democrats in the desperation are attempting, 102 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 9: and the mainstream media is absolutely complicit in this. Back 103 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 9: in the beginning of October, I think octave over the sixth, 104 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 9: CBS interviewed its interview with Bill Whitaker sixty minutes. A 105 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 9: lot of suggestions that this interview had been heavily edited 106 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 9: that would compromise news distortion. So who better to discuss 107 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 9: this with now than Nathan Symington, a Trump appointed commissioner 108 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 9: and the Federal Communications commission Commissioner. Simmington, good morning, Thank 109 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 9: you for joining us on the show. Now, I think 110 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 9: you're the only commissioner to flag this outrage up with 111 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 9: the chairwoman and Rebecca Wursl Rosen, tell us a bit 112 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 9: if you wouldn't mind about what has driven you to 113 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 9: do this and are we going to see the full 114 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 9: unedited interview? 115 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 12: Well, that very much remains to be seen. Delighted to 116 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 12: be here, I'm glad to have the chance to discuss 117 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 12: this issue. So with the Federal Communications Commission, what we do. 118 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 12: We don't regulate media. The United States has a much 119 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 12: more robust free speech regime even today than most other democracies, 120 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 12: So we don't regulate media. But we do say that 121 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 12: since the airwaves are public property, no one's entitled to 122 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 12: a broadcast license, and in order to have a broadcast license, 123 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 12: there are certain standards that you have to meet. Broadcast 124 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 12: news distortion is a very interesting situation because there hasn't 125 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 12: been a good claim brought on it for years and years. 126 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 12: Usually we get broadcast news distortion complaints when someone just 127 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 12: doesn't like coverage or they feel that the coverage is slanted. 128 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 12: The problem is that's protected editorial discretion under the First Amendment. 129 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 12: What makes this claim interesting is that transcript you were 130 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 12: talking about. You see, you're if you film coverage event 131 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 12: and in this case, the event being an interview, and 132 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 12: then you alter the meaning of that footage in some 133 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 12: way that deceives the public, you may find yourself within 134 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 12: actionable broadcast news distortion. And so you're asking, are we 135 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 12: going to see the transcript? I guess my answer is 136 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 12: it would be very easy for CBS to immunize itself 137 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 12: against any possible claims for broadcast news distortion by releasing 138 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 12: the transcript and showing that the editorial decisions that they 139 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 12: made you always make them when you're preparing a show. 140 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 12: You know, you got a little bit here. You film 141 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 12: forty minutes of footage, but you can only use twenty. 142 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 13: Whatever it is. 143 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 12: If they show that their decisions were typical editorial decisions, 144 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 12: then there's no case and the entire thing falls apart 145 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 12: and there's no grounds for any investigation. On the other hand, 146 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 12: if they don't release the transcript, you have to ask yourself, 147 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 12: why is it exactly that they are so reluctant to 148 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 12: take this simple step that would remove any possible FCC claim. So, 149 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 12: in some ways, I'm as much in the dark as you. 150 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 9: Commissioner at Simmington. One of the aspects of of this 151 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 9: interview that has led to a lot of suspicion and 152 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 9: complaints is the fact that when they previewed this the 153 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 9: time before they had Bill Whitaker asked a certain question 154 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 9: right about being NETO, and she answered it one way, 155 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 9: and then when the show went out the following day 156 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 9: the answer was the same exact same question that the 157 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 9: answer was totally different. So it's not just a suspicion, 158 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 9: is it. It's actually in your face, it's uncontrovertible that 159 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 9: they have edited this somehow to to give Kamala Harris 160 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 9: the opportunity to to be more coherent. Let's let's put 161 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 9: it like that, and changing substantially the response that she gave. 162 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 9: Now the the FCC showman Jessica Rose and Walsall, is 163 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 9: she is she obligated to do anything? I know that 164 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 9: individual commissioners don't have the power to to to hit 165 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 9: these broadcasting institutions, But is she If one of the commissioners, 166 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 9: such as yourselves, flags up something like this, is she 167 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 9: what is she obligated to do? How she obligated to respond? 168 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 12: Well, there again, we don't really have an established process 169 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 12: for dealing with broadcast news distortion because there have been 170 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 12: so successful claims under it. That's again what makes the 171 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 12: instant case rather interesting because you know, the last time 172 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 12: I can find a major case that was litigated under this, 173 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 12: it was in the last century. It was in the 174 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 12: late nineties, and so the FCC just doesn't really have 175 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 12: standard policies and procedures for dealing with something like this, 176 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 12: and it's really hard to figure out exactly what, if anything, 177 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 12: the Chair can be made to do now, just because 178 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 12: a lot of what we do at the Commission is discretionary, 179 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 12: it therefore turns to how is that discretion going to 180 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 12: be exercised? And regardless of who wins the election, it's 181 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 12: traditional for the chair to step down on an inauguration day, 182 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 12: So it's so no doubt we're going to have a 183 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 12: new chair pretty soon, and at that point the question 184 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 12: sort of comes back up in terms of what can 185 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 12: the chair be forced to do. That's again an especially 186 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 12: interesting question because we're just coming out of forty years 187 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 12: of Chevron deference to the behavior of administration administrative agencies 188 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 12: in interpreting their own statutes, and so there's I guess 189 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 12: a longer term question the degree to which FCC precedents 190 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 12: of the last forty years are still good, because it 191 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 12: may be that we have been somewhat outside the bounds 192 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 12: of our statute, that we've allowed, for example, too much 193 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 12: discretion to go down to the office and bureau level, 194 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 12: or too much power to concentrate in the chair. Those 195 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 12: are questions that really are not going to ripen prior 196 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 12: to the next administration taking office. So I think it 197 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 12: really falls to the next administration to grapple with Supreme 198 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 12: Court developments and to figure out what the future of 199 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 12: the FCC looks like. And of course when we talk 200 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 12: about this, we can't avoid talking about Congress. At the 201 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 12: end of the day, Congress writes our statute. We're accountable 202 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 12: to Congress. And if Congress tells us you're chronically outside 203 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 12: of your statute and we're going to, you know, perhaps 204 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 12: make a little amendment saying so, well, then that's that's again, 205 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 12: that's some new direction for us. But in terms of 206 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 12: immediate prospects, nothing's going to happen before inauguration day. There's 207 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 12: no process in place to force anything like that. On 208 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 12: the other hand, if the public becomes sufficiently outraged with 209 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 12: an issue. Well, that's where democratic accountability comes from. 210 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 9: Commissioner Simpington, My final question to you is, and you've 211 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 9: mentioned that there's not a huge area of jurisprudence here 212 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 9: to lean back on, but I gather there's a specific 213 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 9: threat hit to broadcaster is to do with the licensed 214 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 9: license to renewal, the potential to resell that license if 215 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 9: it's formally censured. Could you just tell the warming Possey 216 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 9: a little bit about how that works and how it 217 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 9: might come into play moving forward into the next administration. 218 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 12: Absolutely well. As I said at the beginning of our conversation, 219 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 12: the areas are a public trust. They belong to the 220 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 12: American public, and no one has an inherent right to 221 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 12: use the airwaves. That's why the FCC exists in order 222 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 12: to handle claims or handle privileges to use the airwaves. 223 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 12: And in the case of broadcasters, they're subject to a 224 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 12: public interest obligation. And so we say, if the broadcasters 225 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 12: are not acting in the public interest, then FCC sanctions 226 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 12: can include not just for example of fine. In fact, 227 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 12: I'm not sure that we can find people right now. 228 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 12: That's another Supreme Court development. We'll leave that for another time. 229 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 12: But they definitely do include possible sanctions against a license, 230 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 12: and that the termination of a license is an extreme 231 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 12: sanction that amounts to killing a TV or radio station. 232 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 12: Conditions on a license renewal, on the other hand, have 233 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 12: become a commonplace mechanism for exerting a degree of control 234 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 12: over the behavior of a broadcaster, and I guess I 235 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 12: would just make one additional note in respect of that. So, 236 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 12: when we're talking about the last broadcast news distortion case 237 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 12: to be brought, that case wound up well, the plaintiffs 238 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 12: wound up losing in court, and then they took it 239 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 12: to appeals, and there the DC circuits had something very interesting. 240 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 12: The d C circuit said that actually the FCC was 241 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 12: a little bit insufficiently aggressive in considering evidentiary standards. So 242 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 12: they said that the FCC should be or at least 243 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 12: have the ability to look to a wider range of 244 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 12: evidence to infer the intent to distort it, that the 245 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 12: FCC actually did have some rights to second guests broadcasters 246 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 12: editorial choices, for example, the quality of sources or depth 247 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 12: of research, that there are actually affirmative obligations on broadcasters 248 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 12: to investigated truth the truth whenever story involves, you know, 249 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 12: inflammatory claims. So right now, at least on the basis 250 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 12: of the last major case to be litigated, it seems 251 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 12: to me that the FCC should maybe revive this question 252 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 12: of whether broadcast news distortion is taking place or it's 253 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 12: taking place systematically. We need to trust the news. 254 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 9: We'll be back in two minutes after this short break 255 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 9: with Commissioner Nathan Simington. 256 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: Don't go away, here's your host, Stephen came back. 257 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 9: Welcome back, Commissioner Symington. Could you just perhaps give us 258 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 9: a quick word. How is it You're the only person 259 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 9: to flag this up. This whole thing has been occupying 260 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 9: sort of column inches and broadcast minutes since October the 261 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 9: sickly itself, and you're the only person who's stepped up 262 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 9: on the entire commission to say, hang on, we need 263 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 9: to look into this. How is that possible? 264 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 12: Well, I'm happy to say that my colleague Brendan Corr 265 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 12: has also has also started discussing this issue. He mentioned 266 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 12: it on Glenn Beck and on Maria Barbiromo's show, and 267 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 12: perhaps other venues, but those are the two where I've 268 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 12: seen it come up, and I think he's across the 269 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 12: issue as well. So at this point we have two 270 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 12: of the five commissioners flagging this as a potential problem. 271 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 12: I think the Commission get used to not pursuing news distortion. 272 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 12: I mean, Sestion three twenty six of our statute says 273 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 12: that the Commission doesn't get to have any powers of 274 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 12: censorship over any kind of broadcast. And I think we've, 275 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 12: you know, we've grown accustomed to trusting the news and 276 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 12: to assuming that the news that comes out over broadcast 277 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 12: is going to be is going to be honest and 278 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 12: faithful and good journalism. The difficulty is that the difficulty 279 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 12: is that right now in today's broadcast environment, maybe that's 280 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 12: maybe that assumption needs a little testing. 281 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 9: If you if you saw the beginning of the show 282 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 9: and the cold open we had with some of the 283 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 9: output on MISSNBC, there was a commentator that who literally 284 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 9: basically said that what Donald Trump was doing at Madison 285 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 9: Square Gardens was a rerun of fascism. And it was 286 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 9: there that wasn't editorial, That was absolutely put out there 287 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 9: as if that was an objective statement of fact. That 288 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 9: will appall many many people in the country and all 289 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 9: of the audience of this show. What can they do? 290 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 9: What can the warm impossibly do in the future, assuming 291 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 9: Trump wins on November the fifth. What can people do? 292 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 9: How can they use the fact that there are two 293 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 9: good commissioners on this on this commission to force back 294 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 9: against the arrogance of the left wing cable news channels 295 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 9: and say, well, hang on, you know, you can't say 296 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 9: this kind of thing with impunity without there being consequences. 297 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 9: Every day commissioner we have on this show, we normally 298 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 9: open with something from either CNN or MSNBC, and it's 299 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 9: just basically an out right life and people that are 300 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 9: quite just defiably angry and fed up with it. I 301 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 9: think they want to feel empowered to be able to 302 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 9: fight back. And as you say, the airways belong to them, right. 303 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 12: The airways absolutely do belong to the American people. It's 304 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 12: you know, it's worth noting that when we action spectrum 305 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 12: license rates to for example, wireless telecommunications providers, those rights 306 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 12: routinely go for the tens of billions of dollars. So 307 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 12: you know, the airwaves are and just the right to 308 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 12: use the airwaves and thus to reach the American people 309 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 12: is those are very valuable rights and no one should 310 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 12: feel entitled to them. I guess what I would say 311 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 12: is broadcast news distortion. It's in a way, it's a 312 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 12: very narrow category because if you want to go on 313 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 12: TV and say, you know, this is communism, or this 314 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 12: is fascism, or you know this so and so is 315 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 12: the worst person ever to live, that is unfortunately protected 316 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 12: editorial discretion. I mean, you know, it's no matter how 317 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 12: incredibly disagreeable it might be, no matter how wrong you 318 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 12: might think it might be, broadcast news distortion can't reach 319 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 12: those points of view because we take a very strong 320 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 12: view of First Amendment protections here, and we say that 321 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 12: the Commission is not going to set itself up as 322 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 12: a truth commission to decide what's right and wrong. So 323 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 12: but with broadcast news distortion, on the other hand, in 324 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 12: terms of what we can do, I think what we 325 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 12: could do is talk about where there's deliberate misrepresentation or 326 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 12: alteration of coverage. And it's maybe that alteration of coverage 327 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 12: point that's the most interesting, because when you have a 328 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 12: presentation of an interview, for example, or some other newsworthy 329 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 12: event in which the editorial choices that are made go 330 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 12: beyond mirror editorial choices to actual changes of meaning, then 331 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 12: that's an area where we're not accustomed to being watchdogs 332 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 12: because we've got a feeling of learned helplessness about the 333 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 12: broadcasting industry. And I think it would do everyone good 334 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 12: to let go of that feeling of learned helplessness and 335 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 12: to say we are going to we are going to 336 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 12: demand that broadcasters present interviews and present newsworthy events in 337 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 12: the way that they occurred. It's that that, because that's 338 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 12: how you get within broadcast news distortion. You see if 339 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 12: you present it it's something different from what occurred. That's 340 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 12: where you have the problem. 341 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 9: Commission to Simpson, we cannot definitely invite you to come 342 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 9: back on the show and expand on some of these 343 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 9: themes more impossive. I may make a direct statement to you. 344 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 9: You're probably feeling very angry right now hearing that broadcast 345 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 9: networks have first protection rights to call you and Donald 346 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 9: Trump fascist. But someone like Rudy Giuliani, who's an American hero, 347 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 9: has been bankrupted because he expressed his right to free speech. 348 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 9: Take that anger with you, Nurture that anger right, Nurture 349 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 9: that anger, Take it with you until all the way 350 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 9: up until November the fifth. That is the arrogance of 351 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 9: the system right that confronts. 352 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 12: Now, if I could jump in just for one second, now, 353 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 12: I just want to emphasize because you have just because 354 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 12: you have a First Amendment right to say something, that 355 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 12: doesn't mean that there aren't potential other avenues by which 356 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 12: you might have liability. So we don't exercise prior restraint 357 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 12: on speech. But there is such a thing as illegal speech. 358 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 12: There is such a thing as defamation. I think everyone 359 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 12: should be very aware of when they're potentially coming with 360 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 12: a thwart claim that. Now that's outside of the direct 361 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 12: FCC world, because we're just looking at broadcast regulation, regulation 362 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 12: of broadcasting over the airwaves, but you can, but you 363 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 12: absolutely can get yourself in legal trouble by defaming people 364 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 12: or by engaging an illegal speech. And again we shouldn't 365 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 12: have a sense of learned helplessness about that. If there's 366 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 12: a specific person who could bring a claim, then they 367 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 12: absolutely should. 368 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 9: Commissioner Nathan Symmington, thanks very much. Yeah, I guess Look, 369 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 9: we could chew on this all day. Where do people 370 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 9: go I noticed that you put something out on XLI. 371 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 9: Where do people go on social media to keep up 372 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 9: with you and to support what you're doing? Here? Holding 373 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 9: holding a CBS to account. Well. 374 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 12: My senior Republican colleague on the Commission, Brandon Carr, has 375 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 12: a very well known ex account that's always worth following. 376 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 9: I haven't been very. 377 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 12: Active on social media because my my personality and disposition 378 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 12: is to be a little bit of a behind the 379 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 12: scenes technical legal expert, and I like working on the 380 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 12: engineering issues more than on any sort of public facing issues. 381 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 12: But that said, I think this, with this live controversy 382 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 12: that we have right now, I will be continuing to 383 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 12: post clips and analysis on x for really known as Twitter, 384 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 12: and then and then, of course, people are always welcome 385 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 12: to engage directly with my office. My email and my 386 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 12: staff emails are all on the Commission website, and if 387 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 12: there are people out there who feel that they need 388 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 12: help navigating these waters, we really do answer our email 389 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 12: where public servants, we're accountable for that, so I encourage 390 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 12: people to reach out. 391 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 9: Question Nathan Simonton, thanks very much for giving under one. 392 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 9: We'd definitely be catching up video again soon. God bless 393 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 9: for that. Okay, e Jar and TONI, we've got a 394 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 9: couple of minutes left before we go to break. I 395 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 9: know that the Wall Street Journal seems to have its 396 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 9: nickers in a twist regarding the potential of an incoming 397 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 9: Trump administration doing scared scare tactics about inflation. Why don't 398 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 9: you just break this down for us. What's going on now? 399 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 9: What's this debate all about? 400 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 14: Well, the first thing to remember is all the people 401 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 14: who are saying that the sky is going to fall 402 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 14: essentially if Trump gets a second term are the same 403 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 14: people who said that the sky was going to fall 404 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 14: during Trump's first term. They said that he was going 405 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 14: to cause runaway inflation, that he was going to set 406 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 14: off trade and tariff wars, etc. And none of those 407 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 14: things happened. Ironically, all of the inflation came during the 408 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 14: Biden administration, when the runaway spending, which those same experts 409 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 14: said would not cause inflation, set off that inflationary fire, 410 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 14: which then also gave us not only forty year high inflation, 411 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 14: but also the fastest interest rate hikes in forty years. 412 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 14: All of this has combined, of course, to create essentially 413 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 14: a cost of living crisis for most Americans. And again, 414 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 14: all of the experts, a lot of whom are at 415 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 14: the center of this Wall Street journal piece, who are 416 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 14: saying that the economy will essentially fall apart under another 417 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 14: Trump administration. They said the same thing under the first 418 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 14: Trump term, and they were completely wrong. They said it 419 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 14: was going to be a new age of prosperity under Biden. 420 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 14: They were completely wrong. 421 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 4: There is no. 422 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 14: Reason to believe that they are right this time around. Furthermore, 423 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 14: the evidence in the record of history says that they're 424 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 14: not going to be right this time around either. 425 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 9: EJ. We've got half a minute up until the break. 426 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 9: Can you just say, I think they've got some important 427 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 9: US job states to coming out this week? 428 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 14: Right, yes, Friday, we'll get the last jobs report before 429 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 14: the election. And unfortunately, something that we've talked about quite 430 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 14: a bit before has been the inaccuracy of these reports, 431 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 14: where we get what initially looks like a very good number, 432 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 14: but then it's always revised lower in later months. And 433 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 14: we've also seen not only those monthly revision but also 434 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 14: the annual revision process as well knock off a lot 435 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 14: of those jobs. And just to show you how bad 436 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 14: things are in manufacturing, for example, you're off over one 437 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 14: hundred and forty thousand jobs since the start of January 438 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 14: twenty twenty three. 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That's home title lock dot Com promo group. 472 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 4: Use your host. Stephen came back, Welcome back. 473 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 9: There's just an article in the New York Times with 474 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 9: the headline, and that came out a couple of days ago. 475 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 9: There used to be ahead in the American economy. Now 476 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 9: they've fallen behind. One economic question that really matters in 477 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 9: an election year. Are others doing better than you? But 478 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 9: the answers are, obviously for so many people in America, 479 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 9: especially those in the lower two quintiles. No, they're not 480 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 9: doing better over the last four years. And what the 481 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 9: regime is trying to do is to gaslight you and 482 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 9: to think it's great. Inflation is coming down, you know, 483 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 9: so these these these statistics are great, but of course 484 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 9: life has never been more expensive. Eji an Tony, what 485 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 9: you were saying before the break is extremely important. There 486 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 9: that on Friday, these the US job data will come 487 00:27:54,119 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 9: out and the recent practices, these data are quite positive, 488 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 9: and then they revised back down subsequently. That's important I 489 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 9: think for the woman possity to bear in mind because 490 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 9: the regime and its apparatus in the mainstream media is 491 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 9: going to go hard on now, isn't it the last 492 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 9: full week before the election? Friday before the elections are 493 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 9: going to full on and try and convince you not 494 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 9: to trust your own lying eyes. 495 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 14: Right, And there's a reason why we see such an 496 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 14: incredible disconnect today between the official government produced data and 497 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 14: polling on the economy. And to be clear, this is 498 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 14: not even politically driven. So in other words, when we 499 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 14: ask people not just how do you do you approve 500 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 14: of let's say Biden or Harris's handling of the economy, 501 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 14: forget those questions. Let's look just for a moment at 502 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 14: how are your personal finances or do you think the 503 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 14: economy is working for you and your family. Questions like that, 504 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 14: things that are purely apolitical. The responses are terrible, and 505 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 14: have been for a couple of years now, and a 506 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 14: key reason why is because the official data that we 507 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 14: keep getting are being completely skewed. They are no longer accurate. 508 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 14: And there's a lot of different reasons for that, but 509 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 14: the fact of the matter is, again, the numbers we 510 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 14: are getting do not reflect reality, and so ironically, the 511 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 14: best objective measure we have right now of the economy 512 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 14: is the subjective measure of how people feel about it, 513 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 14: because what that is reflecting is the fact that most 514 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 14: Americans have maxed out at least one of their credit cards. 515 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 14: For example, it's reflecting the reality that there's well over 516 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 14: a trillion dollars of credit card debt right now, that 517 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 14: the total interest paid on those credit cards is over 518 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 14: three hundred billion dollars a year. That's just the interest 519 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 14: that we have a completely frozen over housing market for 520 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 14: the first time since the Great Depression, and entire generation 521 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 14: of young people likely will never be able to afford 522 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 14: a home in their lifetimes. In other words, a majority 523 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 14: of that generation will probably not become homeowners, at least 524 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 14: not until one of their parents dies and leaves a 525 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 14: home to that younger gener I mean, things are really 526 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 14: really terrible right now in the American economy. But going 527 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 14: back to the data question, when you continue to have 528 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 14: numbers that are initially wildly overestimated, it looks like a 529 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 14: beat to Wall Street estimates, and then you get the 530 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 14: downward revisions and you realize that all of those beats 531 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 14: were actually missus. But for some reason, no one wants 532 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 14: to pay attention to those things. 533 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 9: EG and Tony, you're doing excellent work at the Heritage Foundation, 534 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 9: and you're telling the war imposse the truth. Where do 535 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 9: they go if they want to digest some of your 536 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 9: analysis more profoundly? 537 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 14: The best place to find me is going to be 538 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 14: on X and the handle there is at real EJ 539 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 14: and TONYJ. 540 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 9: Thanks very much for coming on. The show. Will catch 541 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 9: up again with this year in Goblins. Now you too, 542 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 9: let's talk. Now we're going over to Virginia. I think 543 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 9: most people will have seen these comments from government young 544 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 9: Kin about criticizing the judge who had ruled I think 545 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 9: over a thousand or so votes of non citizens must 546 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 9: be included, must be considered in the election, they must 547 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 9: be able to vote their enjoys from the electoral process 548 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 9: Education Court. Thanks for coming back on the show. Could 549 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 9: you just give a quick refresher on what is going 550 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 9: on in the Commonwealth of Virginia and say what the 551 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 9: recent developments are with regards to Governor Youngkin's appeal to 552 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 9: the Supreme Court. 553 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 15: Sure Ben, Thanks thanks for having us on very fast 554 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 15: moving case. Just last night of the Fourth Circuit Court 555 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 15: of Appeals rejected Virginia's appeal to stay a federal judge 556 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 15: who ruled on Friday that the Commonwealth of Virginia must 557 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 15: return to the voter rules just under sixteen hundred registrations 558 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 15: that had been removed because the registrants had so self 559 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 15: declared as non citizens. So under Virginia's own existing statute, 560 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 15: a statute that then Democrat Governor Tim Kaine had signed 561 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 15: about eighteen years ago, as well as federal law the 562 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 15: National Voter Registration Act, Virginia did its routine maintenance of 563 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 15: voter rolls and did not registered non citizens who do 564 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 15: not have eligibility to be registered in the first place. 565 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 15: So it's kicked off quite an uproar since the judge 566 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 15: ruled on Friday that you have to stop what you're 567 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 15: doing Virginia and let these non citizens back on your 568 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 15: voter roles. 569 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 9: So that's where we are. 570 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 15: So on Sunday, just last night, after Attorney General Maieris 571 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 15: filed an appeal to the Fourth Circuit, which is the 572 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 15: path that you have to go down to get onto 573 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 15: the Supreme Court. 574 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 8: Very liberal court, it's swung very liberal in. 575 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: The past few years. 576 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 15: Biden appointee, a Biden appointee, and an Obama appointee rejected 577 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 15: Virginia's appeal, and so Attorney General my Ers is now 578 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 15: seeking an appeal to the United States Supreme Court. And 579 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 15: this is the I think, if I understand, I've done 580 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 15: my homework properly. 581 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 8: This is the. 582 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 15: Portion of the circuit that Chief Justice John Roberts oversees. 583 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 15: So we'll be waiting to hear if they decide to 584 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 15: take the course the case. 585 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 9: Rather Eran, can you help break this down from because 586 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 9: I would have thought this was an open and shut 587 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 9: the case. Non citizens aren't allowed to vote in elections, right, 588 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 9: What is the legal argument that the Democrats that the 589 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 9: Democrats are using here is how does things still have legs? 590 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 15: It's it all comes down to a read of the 591 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 15: National Voter Registration Act, so called Motor Voter, which allows 592 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 15: people to register to vote at the Department of Motor 593 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 15: Vehicles when they're transacting to get a driver's license. Non 594 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 15: citizens are awarded driver's licenses through the DMV, but they 595 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 15: have to submit legal presence codes to attest whether or 596 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 15: not they're a citizen, because if you're not a citizen, 597 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 15: you get a different kind of license. You get like 598 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 15: a limited duration license. You might be a student here 599 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 15: on a student visa, but you're not a citizen. So 600 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 15: the Department, the DMV sends those codes to the excuse me, 601 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 15: the Department of Elections. They do a match to find 602 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 15: out whether declared non citizens through the DMV are on 603 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 15: their roles. They send a notice to the declared non 604 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 15: citizen saying, you declared non citizen, could you please attest 605 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 15: under penalty of perjury and possible deportation whether you're a 606 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 15: citizen or not. 607 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 9: They said no. 608 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 15: This is what Governor Younkin was talking about over the 609 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 15: weekend on his social media feed, saying they've already attested, 610 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 15: they've submitted paperwork. They're not citizens. But it's a read 611 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 15: of the NVRA, the motor voter that uses this term 612 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 15: quiet period, the ninety day quiet period ninety days prior 613 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 15: to an election, that says you can't do anything to 614 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 15: your voter roles. And what the read is all about, though, 615 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 15: what that portion of the law addresses are people who 616 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 15: were registered, already registered voters who have led ability to 617 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 15: be registered in the first place. So non citizens do 618 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 15: not have eligibility to be on the roles in the 619 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 15: first place. And that's where where the fight is coming 620 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 15: down to, because it's just a straight read of the 621 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 15: of the MVRA that if you're a non citizen, you 622 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 15: really have no eligibility to be on the role in 623 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 15: the first place. If you're somebody who's lived here in Virginia, 624 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 15: for example, for five years, you and you moved about 625 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 15: three weeks ago and you haven't re established your residency 626 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 15: somewhere else, that kind of gray area is what this 627 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 15: quiet period is all about. So that's that's kind of 628 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 15: a rundown of where we are in this in this 629 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 15: legal battle. 630 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 9: Ohin just to give the Democrats here the benefit of 631 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 9: the doubt only on this issue, only on the nineteen 632 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 9: day the ninety day grace period there is a certain 633 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 9: reasonableness about that. This is like the twenty eighth of October. 634 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 9: The election is next week. People have been screaming, you know, 635 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 9: the war has been on election integrity every day since 636 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 9: twenty twenty. It is a bit you know, they ought 637 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 9: to be. There are questions, right, so you know, it's 638 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 9: just simply performative on behalf of the publicans going through 639 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 9: the motions now with last minut appeals on Sunday, right, 640 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 9: four years to sort this out. 641 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 15: They have and we've got We've documented, as we've been 642 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 15: able to tell your audience and the posse before ben 643 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 15: Epic Electoral Process Education corporations, we've qualified to look at 644 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 15: the voter roles. We have documented evidence of non citizens 645 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 15: who leave a voting history before they're taken off the roles, 646 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 15: before they attest yes, I'm a non citizen, or where 647 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 15: they certify they are not a citizen, they're declared non citizens, 648 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 15: taken off the roles and have a voting history and 649 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 15: have cast Even in the past eighteen months, we have 650 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 15: found over a thousand ballots that have been cast by 651 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 15: non citizens before they were removed. So this is a 652 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 15: political fight. It's about you know, our status quo and 653 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 15: soft part spots in the system of voting that exists, 654 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 15: and there's agreement that non citizens are going on to 655 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 15: the voter rolls through the automatic registration process at DMV, 656 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 15: and the Department of Elections in Virginia has been following 657 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 15: a state law for eighteen years to send notice to 658 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 15: the non citizens who told the DMV yep, I'm a 659 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 15: non citizen, I'm a non citizen, and then asking them 660 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 15: to sign paperwork in a test. So those are the 661 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 15: citizens that we know about because they'd said they were 662 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 15: non citizens. The Fourth Circuit is saying, well, we don't 663 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 15: believe you, basically, I mean, it's kind of I'm reading 664 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 15: the ruling in Fourth Circuit says, well, you haven't put 665 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 15: out any evidence that they're non citizens and they just 666 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 15: might be citizens, and. 667 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 13: That's not true. 668 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 15: They've all attested that they're non citizens. So this is 669 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 15: probably a little forum shopping from the political aspect of 670 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 15: using the Fourth Circuit, using a judge who is or 671 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 15: going to a judge who's an a Biden appointee, and 672 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 15: then going to a Fourth Circuit that is that leans 673 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 15: very left in their rulings. So that's the path to 674 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 15: the Supreme Court, and we'll see if the High Court 675 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 15: accepts the emergency appeal. 676 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 9: Owin just one minute before the break, and then we 677 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 9: need to close this. But I can't express because I know, 678 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 9: I really every comment posted on GETTA. I know the 679 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 9: seething anger that exists out there in MAGA, in the 680 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 9: movement generally, in the warming policy. Can they expect lawsuits 681 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 9: after this election to officials that allowed non citizens to vote? 682 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 9: Will these people be held to account or we just 683 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 9: get more performance? 684 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 15: There is a lot of anger, Ben, I can tell you. 685 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,959 Speaker 15: I mean, this is really sent shockwaves through the early 686 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 15: voting period. We're on about thirty days into the early 687 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 15: voting period. There's also a concept in federal law known 688 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 15: as the Percel principle, where federal courts are asked to 689 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 15: not make rulings that can have an impact. And already 690 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 15: we're seeing about a four hundred percent increase in just 691 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 15: one week in so called same day registrations. So that's 692 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 15: people who walk in, they don't they're not registered, and 693 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 15: they essentially can cast what's known as a provisional ballot 694 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 15: that's reviewed after the November fifth general election. So there's 695 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 15: a lot of frustration, a lot of anger, because when 696 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,959 Speaker 15: more than one thousand non citizens are casting ballots before 697 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 15: they fess up essentially and say oh yeah, I'm not 698 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 15: a citizen, take me off their roles. Those are civil 699 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 15: rights issues for American citizens whose own ballots are being 700 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 15: effectively canceled out by people who had no eligibility to 701 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 15: be on the role in the first place. And so 702 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 15: Virginia's Attorney general has been given a lot of criminal 703 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 15: referrals about this, and we have Virginia counties that are 704 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 15: now referring for criminal investigation for this. 705 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 9: Sun By fucking two minutes. 706 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: America is standing on the brink of an election meltdown, 707 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 3: and Jim Ricards, at of Strategic Intelligence, the man who 708 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: predicted the two thousand and eight financial crisis, Trump's victory 709 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen and the COVID disaster is sounding the alarm. 710 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 3: Rickords has just dropped a bombshell that could change everything 711 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 3: you think you know about the twenty twenty four election. 712 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: He's uncovered what he calls the democrats secret plan to 713 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 3: keep Trump out of the White House even if he wins. 714 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 8: This isn't some far off theory. 715 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 3: He's warning that meltdown could lead to a fifty percent 716 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 3: market crash, the total collapse of the US dollar. 717 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 8: And violent riots in our streets. 718 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 3: The stakes are higher than ever, folks, and if you're 719 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: not prepared, you could lose everything. 720 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 8: But Jim Rickers isn't just predicting disaster. 721 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 3: He's laying out five critical steps you need to take 722 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: now to protect yourself, your family, and your financial future. 723 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: This isn't fear migrant, It's coming straight from a man 724 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 3: who's been at the highest levels of intelligence, finance, and 725 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 3: national security. Go to meltdown twenty four dot com right 726 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 3: now to watch his urgent presentation. Don't wait until it's 727 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 3: too late. Meltdown twenty four dot com. 728 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 4: That's even came back. 729 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 9: Welcome back, Eran. Would you quickly give your media your 730 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 9: social media contact? Where can people go to get hold 731 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 9: of you to support the great work that you're doing. 732 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 8: Thank you for having us on. 733 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 15: It's always a pleasure exciting times these days to follow. 734 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 15: You can find out about Epic's work at epic dot 735 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 15: substack dot com. We have a free newsletter. We're publishing 736 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 15: a lot more during this early voting period to really 737 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 15: do an analysis and help people understand the voting process 738 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 15: and whatever anomalies we see, but also you know the 739 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 15: good stuff too, because there's a lot of counties that 740 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 15: are doing really good work and they deserve to be 741 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 15: called out for the good work they're doing to improve 742 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 15: their process. EPIC dot substack dot com. You can find 743 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 15: out about what we do EPIC the nonprofit at EPIC 744 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 15: epec dot info and also read our executive director, John 745 00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 15: Leroe's very deeply analytical blog about all things election integrity 746 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 15: at digitalpoll Watchers dot org. 747 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:03,959 Speaker 8: And thanks again. 748 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 9: I mean, I just want to flag up for the 749 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 9: war imposse. You said just before the break of one 750 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 9: thousand non citizens had voted, and this evidence, I repeat, 751 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 9: the war impossit is signed me on this. They want 752 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 9: to see litigation. They want to see lawsuits. They want 753 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 9: to see the people responsible for ensuring non citizens aren't voting. 754 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 9: They want to They want to see some action here. 755 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 9: They want to They're very angry. It is. 756 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 15: It's a class six felony to vote illegally in Virginia. 757 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 15: In most states, it's a class six felony. We have 758 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 15: a lot of liberal commonwealth attorneys otherwise known as das 759 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 15: in Virginia who just do not investigate these crimes. But 760 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 15: the Attorney General, Jason Mayoris, is aware of a lot 761 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 15: of criminal referrals. We're aware that investigations are underway. But 762 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,479 Speaker 15: I think Ben, what you're suggesting is a class action 763 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 15: type of a lawsuit where non citizens are saying are 764 00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 15: being allowed to cast a ballot. 765 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 16: How we have said citizens need to be engaged in 766 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 16: this process, and the left is ber cirque about that. 767 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 16: They call us a threat to democracy. Federal statute that 768 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 16: poll observers must be protected, it's state law. I mean, 769 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 16: there's a reason why. It's because we should have transparency 770 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 16: in the election process. The only thing that should be 771 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 16: a secret in the election process is how somebody who's 772 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 16: somebody votes for. Everything else should be open for public 773 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 16: inspection and review. And the left really hates that. The 774 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,280 Speaker 16: New York Times hates that. You know, they talk about 775 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 16: our subversive materials and how they've gotten their hands on them. 776 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 16: They're on our website, the Citizen's Guide to building an 777 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 16: Election Integrity Infrastructure. It's free, go to www. Dot who'scounting 778 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 16: dot us Download it, it's free. Our video training on 779 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 16: how to have oversight of the election process. We have 780 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 16: twenty videotapes they're free, download them, take them, use them, 781 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 16: share them. So it's pretty remarkable. But we're onto them, 782 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 16: and they don't. 783 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 9: Like that, Tita. I guess the reason they're pushing this 784 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 9: article now at is that they know how effective you are. 785 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 9: They've seen how effective you are, and they're scared, and 786 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 9: this is sort of this is then pushing out this 787 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 9: stuff to scare their leadership. We'll get this, we will. 788 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 9: We will get this article out on our own social 789 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 9: media and the New York Times headline inside the movement 790 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 9: behind Trump's election lies, and there you are, front and center, 791 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 9: just once again, Clita, to warmly congratulate you on your nefarious, 792 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 9: subversive work. Where do people go to support this, to 793 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 9: follow you on social media? Well, I think the. 794 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 16: Best place is on my Twitter account, my ex account 795 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 16: at Cleita Mitchell. You can also go to We have 796 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 16: two websites. One I really want people to go to www. 797 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 16: Dot vote fair twenty two twenty four dot com. It's 798 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 16: vote fair twenty twenty four dot com. Look at the 799 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 16: ballot issues. We have a map. Look at your state. 800 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 16: Do you have ballot issues that affect elections that you're 801 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 16: going to be voting on? Please go look at that 802 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 16: these ballid issues on elections are really really important and 803 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 16: the left has been manipulating this process for a goodwhile. 804 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 16: That's how Alaska and Maine have ranked choice voting, and 805 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 16: they want to put ranked choice voting into Idaho and 806 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 16: Arizona and other states. So go look at those ballot 807 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 16: issues and go to www. Dot Who's counting dot us 808 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 16: that has all of our election training materials, and look 809 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 16: one thing I have. I want to say, two perfect, 810 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 16: two really relevant things. If you live in Maricopa County, Arizona, 811 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 16: you need to go vote in person this week because 812 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 16: the election plan that has been devised by the county 813 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 16: is woefully inadequate. So go vote early if you live 814 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 16: in Maricopa County. 815 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 9: Benja Mitchell, thanks very much. Do you have two points? Right? 816 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 16: I beg pardon? 817 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 9: I thought you had two points? That's fine, Okay, thanks 818 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 9: for coming on. The show. Will catch up again, would 819 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 9: you soon Stay tuned to be back in two minutes 820 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 9: after this shortbreak. Don't go in. 821 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 6: This is the climal scream of a dying regime. 822 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on 823 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 2: these people. You not got a free shot. All these 824 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 2: networks lying about the people. The people have had a 825 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: belly full of it. 826 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: I know you don't like hearing that. 827 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 9: I know you tried to do everything in. 828 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: The world to stop there, but you're not going to 829 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: stop that. It's going to happen. And where do people 830 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: like that go to share the big line? 831 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 4: Mega media? 832 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 5: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 833 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 5: these people had a conscience. 834 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 6: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 835 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 6: If that answer is to save my country, this country 836 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 6: will be saved. 837 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 4: He's your host, Stephen K. 838 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: Back. 839 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 9: Welcome back, honwill here at the Helm, filling in for 840 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 9: the last time for Stephen K. Bannon. 841 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 13: Well. 842 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 9: One of the things that you might have spotted last week, 843 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,240 Speaker 9: which was slightly unusual was Prime Minister Modi of India 844 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 9: sitting down with President she of China. I don't think 845 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 9: those two had sit down with one another for about 846 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 9: five years. A lot of tensions between those two geopolitical rivals, 847 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 9: but there they were, and who were sitting in the 848 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 9: middle of them, President Putin. This is the movement forward 849 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 9: of Briggs. We've been talking about it for some time 850 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 9: here on the War and Jim Rickards, good morning, Come 851 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 9: on Thanks for coming on the show. Tell me Briggs, 852 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 9: it was dismissed, but it does seem to be moving forward. 853 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 854 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 17: You know, I figured the war room posse's getting plenty 855 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 17: of coverage on the US election, and rightly so, but 856 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 17: I thought we could turn to bricks a little bit. 857 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 17: It may actually be more important in the long run, 858 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 17: although it got very little coverage in the United States 859 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 17: because US actually is worried about what's going on. So 860 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 17: Bricks Brazil, Russia, India, and China, South Africa. But they've 861 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 17: added seventeen additional members in the last couple of years. 862 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 17: Four last year Egypt, Ethiopia, UAE, and Iran, and they 863 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 17: added thirteen new members this year, so now they're up 864 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 17: to twenty two. I'm not going to list all their names, 865 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 17: but some of the big ones, important ones included Malaysia, Turkey, 866 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 17: and Indonesia of course, one of the largest oil producers 867 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 17: in the world. So this thing is really taking shape. 868 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 17: They're big announcement. People have been waiting for the new 869 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 17: bricks currency. They did not announce that that may be 870 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 17: years away, but they did something equally important. They created 871 00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 17: a bricks payment system, Clearance and settlement of securities, trends, outctions, 872 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 17: and a digital ledger of what one country owes to 873 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 17: the other, etc. So it's a payment balance to payment 874 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 17: recording system. Again all using blockchain technology, which has been 875 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 17: around a long time. The importance of that is now 876 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,439 Speaker 17: they're completely outside the dollar system. It doesn't mean they'll 877 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,320 Speaker 17: never do another dollar transaction, but recall they've been Russia 878 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 17: at least, and some of the other countries have been 879 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 17: kicked out of the dollar system. So if you kick 880 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 17: somebody out of the club, they're going to start their 881 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 17: own club. And that's exactly what they've done. Now this 882 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 17: is mostly trade oriented. I don't want to suggest it's 883 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 17: the end of the dollar, but it's kind of the 884 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 17: beginning of the end. You know, Sterling in nineteen thirteen 885 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 17: was the global reserve currency, and by nineteen forty four 886 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 17: it was a footnote. Well that took thirty years. These 887 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 17: things play out of our time. This could move very 888 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 17: very quickly. But one really important element. So let's say 889 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 17: Russia ships something to ship's energy to China, and China 890 00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 17: pays them in Chinese yuwan, and then China's ships manufacturing 891 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 17: to Brazil and Brazil pays them in their local currency, 892 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 17: and you're keeping all this on a ledger. The central 893 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 17: banks in each country can pay the sellers and the buyers. 894 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 17: But the countries that have a ledger where they owe 895 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 17: each other a certain amount, well, you have two problems there. 896 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 17: One is you might have too much of the currency 897 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 17: that more than you can really spend. If you have 898 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 17: a big yu wan balance, but you don't need that 899 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 17: much from China, what are you going to do with 900 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 17: the excess. The other thing is you have exchange risk. 901 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 17: If Russia has a big yu wan balance from China 902 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 17: and then Chinese you want to values, Russia could lose 903 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 17: money on that. 904 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 8: So how do you solve that. 905 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 17: The answer, which is, you know five thousand years old, 906 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 17: is gold. In other words, if you have too much 907 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 17: of the other guy's currency, you can just buy some gold, 908 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 17: sell for dollars and buy gold, or just buy gold directly. 909 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 18: I should also mention they set up. 910 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 17: A new commodities exchange that includes gold, so you can 911 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 17: buy gold in local currency and then just have the gold, 912 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 17: and that obviously solves your foreign exchange problem. So this 913 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 17: is apart from pointing to the end to the dar 914 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,240 Speaker 17: or at least in uh Trey as a trade currency, 915 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 17: it's extremely borish for gold. 916 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 9: Jim, can I just whel back a bit to the 917 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 9: geostrategic aspects of this, and you mentioned Turkey in your 918 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 9: introductory remarks. My understanding is Turkey has applied to join, right, 919 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 9: I don't know if it has joined yet, it's applied 920 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 9: to join. And also Venezuela applied to join but was 921 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 9: vetoed interestingly enough by Brazil. So there are internal dynamics 922 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 9: within the anti America movement as it's moving forward. Tell 923 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 9: me how do you think this is going forward and 924 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 9: how important is is I think it's actually huge this 925 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 9: maneuver on behalf of because of an other one in Turkey, 926 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 9: huge regional power in intern of itself could controlling the 927 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 9: bos Fus there, but also as a NATO member, how 928 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 9: important is this for Turkey as a regional hegemont If 929 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 9: it is able to play successfully both sides off one. 930 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,760 Speaker 4: Another, it's extremely important. 931 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 17: Turkey is a major economy obviously, it's the kind of 932 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 17: geopolitical crossroads of the world in the geographic sense, you know, 933 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 17: controlling the Bosporus and access to the Black Sea, et cetera. 934 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 17: But yeah, a Turkey will have put in both camps 935 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 17: a NATO member. Remember, they've been rejected by the EU. 936 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 17: They wanted to join the EU for decades and we're 937 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 17: pretty much told they couldn't. So they're now turning in 938 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 17: a different direction. But they could have a foot in 939 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 17: both camps. And you're right down. These countries have applied. 940 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 17: But what happened at the Brick summit last week is 941 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 17: that they were green lighted. They said, okay, you're in. 942 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 17: Now there's a process. You know, it's like joining a club. 943 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 17: You might have to give a few references and go 944 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 17: for an interview, but they are they are now on 945 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,720 Speaker 17: track to join and they will be joining very shortly. 946 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 17: But yeah, it's it's enormously enormously significant. And again, if 947 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 17: you look at who's buying gold, just to kind of 948 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 17: pivot back to gold for a minute, you know, Russian 949 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 17: China have you know, quadrupled their gold reserves in the 950 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 17: last you know, twelve years, so that's pretty well known. 951 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 17: But recently, just recent months, net buyers have gold include Turkey, Uzbekistan, 952 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 17: Kazakhstan and others. In other words, the members of the 953 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 17: Bricks or prospective members of the Bricks are out buying 954 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 17: gold as fast as they can. You know us, you know, 955 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 17: people in the US don't seem to really understand the 956 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 17: role of gold and they're not really into it, etc. 957 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 17: That's okay, the central banks get it. They've been net 958 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,240 Speaker 17: buyers for thirteen years at this point. But the BRICKS 959 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 17: members are the biggest buyers of gold recently. As I said, 960 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 17: it's not a classical gold standard, but it's using gold 961 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 17: as a way to deal with foreign exchange exposure. But 962 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 17: they got to buy gold, and that's very bullish for gold. 963 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 9: In this last full week before the US elections. I 964 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 9: just want to flag this up that for the war 965 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 9: impossit that's listening to us. They're seeing these countries in bricks. 966 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 9: But you know, they have tensions between them, they have 967 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 9: regional rivalries, right, But what is the glue cementing this 968 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 9: anti American and that's what it is, an anti Western, 969 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 9: anti American explicitly moving together. Is the incompetence of the 970 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 9: present regime that has forced these they're not countries that 971 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 9: aren't natural allies to work together. And that's extremely dangerous 972 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 9: and it's something I think people Americans across the country, 973 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 9: across political device should be contemplating very seriously over over 974 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 9: the next you know. 975 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 17: Benu exectly, I sat in a secure conference room doing 976 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 17: a tabletop work game in the Pentagon with US Terreasury 977 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 17: officials presence sitting you know, one see away from me. 978 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 17: I warned them about this ten years ago, and it 979 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 17: wasn't specific to the bricks. I said, Sanctions are financial. 980 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 17: Sanctions are powerful, but you can over use them, and 981 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 17: if you use them too much, you're going to create 982 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 17: a reaction, which is, hey, you know, how many times 983 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 17: can you hit the punching bag before the punching bag walks. 984 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 18: Out of the room. 985 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 17: And that's what's happened. We've overused our sanctions. Russia is 986 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,240 Speaker 17: not some you know, middle power. It's the largest nuclear 987 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 17: power in the world's second largest oil producer in the world, 988 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 17: largest land masks in the world, you. 989 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 18: Know, ete a strategic metals. 990 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 9: You can go on and on and on. 991 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 17: You can't just steal three hundred billion dollars of Russian 992 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 17: assets and the form of US Treasury securities, which we've done, 993 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 17: by the way, and expect that there's not going to 994 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 17: be reactions. So this is a very big deal for 995 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 17: all those reasons. 996 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 9: Jimmy Coops. What a great way for the paladins of 997 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 9: the international rules based order to underline their support of 998 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 9: the international rules based order than just walking over by 999 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 9: every single principle. Where do people go to keep up 1000 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 9: with your and precedentally precise geopolitical insights. 1001 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you, Ben. 1002 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,439 Speaker 17: We have a landing page. It's Meltdown twenty four dot com. 1003 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 17: It's Meltdown number twenty four dot com. Meltdown twenty four 1004 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 17: dot com. 1005 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: You go there. 1006 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 17: You can subscribe to Strategic Intelligence, which is our flagship newsletter. 1007 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 17: We have videos and a lot of other information, so 1008 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 17: it's a Meltdown twenty four dot com. 1009 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 9: Jimmy Coops, thanks very much as always for coming on 1010 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 9: the show to begin with, So God bless for no 1011 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 9: Thanks Over to North Carolina and Michelle Morow, the candidate 1012 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 9: for the Superintendent of Public Instruction. Michelle, you look happy 1013 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 9: and optimistic. I gather you're giving the opposition of run 1014 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 9: for their money here. 1015 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 10: Yeah. 1016 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 19: I think when you have even Obama coming and shilling 1017 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 19: for my opponent, then you know that you're over the target. 1018 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 9: Congratulations at least for fighting such a strong campaign. We 1019 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 9: obviously I hope you'll beat yourself over the line next week, 1020 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 9: tell me a bit about the recent developments. 1021 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 19: Then, well, you know, there are eight days for us 1022 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 19: to be able to save our students as well as 1023 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 19: our state and our nation. And I think that the 1024 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 19: left is a little bit nervous because they recognize that 1025 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 19: the majority of people want a quality education, They want 1026 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 19: their kids to be safe, and they want them to 1027 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,240 Speaker 19: be prepared for adulthood. And my opponent has nothing to share. 1028 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 19: There's no solutions. Just dump more money into it. And 1029 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 19: if you can just vote against Michelle Morrow, everybody's going 1030 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 19: to be able to read and do math. 1031 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 13: And I think the voters of North Carolina are smarter 1032 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 13: than that. 1033 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 19: And I think we're going to have a red wave 1034 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 19: here in North Carolina and we're going to be an 1035 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 19: example for the rest of the nation, hopefully. 1036 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 9: Now we've spoken a lot about Oklahoma. I think Ryan 1037 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 9: Walter is what he's done there. Would you just remind 1038 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 9: the war imposse, especially those who are joining us for 1039 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 9: the first time, exactly what your intentions would be as 1040 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 9: superintendent of public instruction, specifically with regards to perhaps reintroducing 1041 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 9: the Bible in class films. 1042 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely so. Here in North Carolina we have we're 1043 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,919 Speaker 19: really in a crisis. Only one out of every four 1044 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 19: of our students is reading or doing math at grade level. 1045 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 19: We have some of the lowest math and reading proficiency 1046 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 19: rates ever recorded in our state. We've had an incredible 1047 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 19: increase in violence within our classrooms, including almost fifteen hundred 1048 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 19: teachers assaulted in the room last loan. And we have 1049 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 19: just a political that is that is usurping our children's 1050 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 19: ability to get a quality education. And I believe that 1051 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 19: we have got to restore the moral family values that 1052 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 19: have made not only North Carolina a great place to live, 1053 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 19: but also are the foundation of who we are as 1054 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 19: a nation. 1055 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 13: I've often heard it stated that. 1056 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 19: God chose the nation of Israel, but the United States 1057 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 19: actually chose God in terms of when we created the 1058 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 19: greatest government document ever written, the Constitution. It was based 1059 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 19: on his principles of right and wrong. It was based 1060 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 19: on his breakdown of even the three branches of government. 1061 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 20: And we have got to. 1062 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 13: Teach our children the truth, the truth about history. 1063 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 19: And I think that when we look at history, the 1064 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 19: best historical document ever for the entire world and creation 1065 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 19: from creation onward is the Bible itself. So looking at 1066 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 19: that as a historical perspective. I have been working with 1067 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 19: people that right now it's on the books that there 1068 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 19: is an elective. There is that every school should be 1069 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 19: offering a Bible elective in middle and high school, and 1070 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 19: that is not happening here in North Carolina. And it's 1071 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 19: time for us to get back to making our public 1072 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 19: schools be focused on the truth of world history as 1073 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 19: well as the truth of the United States history, and 1074 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 19: teaching our kids the truth about civics and government so 1075 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 19: they understand that it's not the Constitution that gives us 1076 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 19: our rights. It's our God given in alienable rights, and 1077 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 19: the Constitution is basically to protect us from and overreaching government, 1078 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 19: the likes of which we have seen firsthand, especially in 1079 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 19: the last four years. 1080 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 9: And that's an idea really as revolutionary today as it 1081 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 9: whilst when Thomas Jefferson first published it on the fourth 1082 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 9: of July. You know, I think that that exposition that 1083 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 9: you've just given is al idea. It's America that has 1084 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 9: that idea, and it ought to be illuminating the countries 1085 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 9: around the world. I very strongly believe that they've heard 1086 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 9: your exposition there and they'll see the coherence between what 1087 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 9: you've been saying now when you first came on the 1088 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 9: show outlining your Candida Shore while you're standing and it's 1089 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 9: absolutely great to see, as you've been coming on over 1090 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 9: the month, to see the momentum building up behind you. 1091 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 9: Eight days left, Michelle, where do people go? How do 1092 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 9: they give you some support as the as the sands 1093 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 9: trickle down the AURD, what can they do to help 1094 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 9: make sure that in North Carolina there will be a 1095 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 9: superintendent of public instruction as strong as there is over 1096 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 9: in Oklahoma. 1097 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 13: Well, they can go to my website. 1098 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 19: You can donate because the political machine, I think we 1099 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 19: are figuring it out looking at all of the money 1100 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 19: that's being spent and it is millions of the other sides. 1101 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 13: You can go to my website. 1102 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 19: It'smorrow the Number four NC dot com. That's r Rownumber 1103 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 19: four NC dot com. And if everybody wants a change 1104 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 19: in all of public education, North Carolina is going. 1105 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 10: To be. 1106 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 13: And great. 1107 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 9: Thank Michelle Mara, thanks for coming on the show. You've 1108 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 9: done a sterling job holding. 1109 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 21: What people know about Donald Trump and also what they 1110 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 21: know about Kamala Harris comes from the work of the 1111 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 21: newsroom of the Washington Post and other major institutions like 1112 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 21: the New York Times, they need the resources to do 1113 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 21: that work. They continue to do outstanding investigative journalism. They 1114 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 21: very much believe in their mission of holding the powerful accountable. 1115 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 21: That includes politicians, and it certainly includes the President of 1116 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 21: the United States or people who aspire to be President 1117 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 21: of the United States, which is the most powerful position 1118 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 21: in the world. So I want to support that kind 1119 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 21: of work, and so I maintain my subscription. I understand 1120 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 21: that people are deeply upset and want to register their concern, 1121 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 21: but I think we need I think people should try 1122 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 21: to imagine the world without a Washington Post, without the 1123 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 21: kind of work that they're doing every day, and that 1124 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 21: would be we would be weaker as a democracy. The 1125 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 21: Post makes contributions with its journalism every single day to 1126 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 21: this democracy, and I hope that we still have the 1127 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 21: Post around. 1128 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 4: To do that kind of work well. 1129 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 22: Times and many in our quote unquote liberal media have 1130 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 22: done so much to kind of normalize this guy who 1131 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 22: is so abnormal, and. 1132 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 10: It is deeply frustrating towards the media. 1133 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 18: Make the same mistakes. 1134 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 22: Large parts of the media, with Present Company and other exceptions, 1135 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 22: So much of our media make the same. 1136 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 1: Mistakes as twenty sixteen. 1137 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 8: It's insane. 1138 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 4: It's like twenty sixteen didn't happen. 1139 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 9: I love. 1140 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 22: One of the reasons I set up my media companies 1141 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 22: a tail is because I want to say the G 1142 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 22: word genocide when we talk about Gaza. 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Good morning, both of you. 1192 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 9: Thanks for coming on the show. 1193 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 16: Thanks for having us. 1194 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 9: Heather, tell me a little bit about these lawsuits that 1195 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 9: you're filing in Pennsylvania. 1196 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 23: Yeah, So we have one case in federal court in 1197 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 23: the Middle District of Pennsylvania where six members of Congress 1198 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 23: have challenged the Pennsylvania Department of State's policy to not 1199 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 23: attempt to verify the information on kava applications. So uokava 1200 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 23: voters submit their application via something called a federal postcard application, 1201 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 23: and on there they are required to include. 1202 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 16: A driver's license number. 1203 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 23: If they don't have a driver's license, they can include 1204 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 23: a social Security number, and the Department of State has 1205 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 23: taken the position that the counties should not attempt to 1206 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 23: verify that information, but should instead just email them in 1207 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 23: most cases or send them a ballot without any sort 1208 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 23: of verification of identity or eligibility. 1209 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 9: Heather, could you just tell us just go break that 1210 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 9: down once again? Please about this this lawsuit so that 1211 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 9: the warm posse can fully digest its significance. 1212 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 23: Sure, So, this lawsuit is regarding the process for UOKAVA applications, 1213 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 23: and UOKAVA is the uniform and overseas these citizens absentee 1214 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 23: voting acts. So this is how people who are in 1215 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 23: the military, but also who are US citizens who are 1216 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 23: overseas are able to have certain privileges that make it 1217 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 23: easier for them to vote. And so most people believe 1218 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 23: that UOKAVA is mostly used by the military. But in Pennsylvania, 1219 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 23: out of the thirty for almost thirty five thousand YUOKAVA 1220 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 23: ballots that have been sent so far, only seventeen percent 1221 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 23: of them are sent to the members of the military 1222 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 23: and their military family members. So that's seventeen percent. All 1223 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 23: the rest of them have been sent to applicants who 1224 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 23: purport to be US citizens who are overseas, and in fact, 1225 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 23: about fifteen and a half thousand of those, so one 1226 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 23: thousand and five hundred of those are applicants who indicated 1227 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 23: that they are overseas and that their intent to return 1228 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 23: is uncertain or they have no intention of returning to 1229 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 23: the United States. 1230 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 9: Let me ask, plain and plain, how are you involved 1231 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 9: with this? 1232 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1233 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,560 Speaker 18: Yeah, Ben, the Heather and I and a bunch of 1234 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,680 Speaker 18: other folks, because we didn't see the rn C doing 1235 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 18: enough in places like Pennsylvania, just jumped in there and 1236 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 18: tried to examine what's really taking place on the ground. 1237 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 18: One of the things was this whole UCOPI issue. The 1238 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 18: Democrats are saying that there are eight million people abroad 1239 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 18: who should be eligible to vote. The US Census said 1240 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 18: there's something like under three million people who should be 1241 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 18: eligible to vote. And we were colleagues of mine were 1242 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 18: talking to Heather about how best to deal with this, 1243 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,439 Speaker 18: you know, the disparagement disparacy, excuse me, the disparity between 1244 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 18: the eight million and the three million. We were just 1245 01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,000 Speaker 18: looking at Pennsylvania specifically in Pennsylvany. I think there's going 1246 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 18: to be thirty two thousand ballots sent out to people 1247 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 18: living abroad, and I think, if I've got the numbers right, 1248 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,680 Speaker 18: about fifteen thousand aren't even registered to vote in the 1249 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,640 Speaker 18: state of Pennsylvania. So the Department of State in Pennsylvania 1250 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,839 Speaker 18: is going to send ballots out thirty two thousand. Fifteen 1251 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 18: thousand of them are not even registered to vote. Many 1252 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 18: of them say they're never going to return to the 1253 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 18: United States, but they're going to be sent a ballot. 1254 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 18: They can fill it out, put it in an envelope, 1255 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 18: mail it in, and when it gets to the Department 1256 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 18: of State, it is very likely to be counted. And 1257 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 18: Heather's lawsuit is really designed to push the government to 1258 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 18: examine whether or not the Department of State. I mean, 1259 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,599 Speaker 18: under the Blackletterer of the law, the Department of State 1260 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 18: can't actually be doing that to people who are not 1261 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 18: even registered to vote. And so this system we have 1262 01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 18: in place is extremely corrupt and screwed up. So part 1263 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 18: of this whole effort has been to simply examine whether 1264 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 18: the election can be stolen. You look at the Madison 1265 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 18: Square Garden rally, and it was super I loved it, 1266 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 18: and there's a sense of victory in the air. But 1267 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 18: this election is not over with yet. There are still 1268 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 18: a lot of twists and turns, and Pennsylvania is a 1269 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 18: big battleground state. And if in Pennsylvania they're going to 1270 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 18: be accepting ballots from people overseas who are not registered 1271 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 18: to vote, have no intention of ever living in the 1272 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 18: United States, again, that could be decisive in this election. 1273 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 18: If it is close now I think again it could 1274 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 18: be a red wave and a blowout election. But the 1275 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 18: Democrats are very determined to win this. And if they 1276 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 18: have been using methods to stuff the ballot box, whether 1277 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 18: it's we're not seeing drop boxes so much, but if 1278 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 18: it's mail in ballots and they're pushing that and they 1279 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 18: can combine that with these UOCOMPA votes, that could be decisive. 1280 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 18: And so for the people of Pennsylvania, however positive you 1281 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 18: think things may be, there's a lot going on in 1282 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 18: the background that you're just not seeing. And the need 1283 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 18: if you're a Republican and you want Donald Trump to 1284 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,559 Speaker 18: be president, the need in Pennsylvania to get people out 1285 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 18: to vote to overcome this potential either theft or exploitation 1286 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 18: of the system is absolutely critical right now, Ben, And 1287 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 18: that's one of the reasons I wanted Heather on the show, 1288 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 18: because she is knee deep in the details of this, 1289 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,640 Speaker 18: fighting every day for these kind of things, and I 1290 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 18: thought it was important for the war room audience to 1291 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 18: know that this was going on, and you've. 1292 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,560 Speaker 9: Done a great service in doing so. Brian. Let me 1293 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 9: just ask you both this question. We're dealing seeing as 1294 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,759 Speaker 9: we are dealing with Americans overseas and as you said, Brian, 1295 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 9: people who may not have any intention ever to come 1296 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,879 Speaker 9: back to the United States, what is their tax paying status? 1297 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 9: Are they still paying income tax to the IoTs abroad? 1298 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 23: Well, here's the problem, right, we're not verifying that these 1299 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 23: people are who they say they are. So if you 1300 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 23: are a US citizen and you live overseas, you have 1301 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 23: certain obligations to the IRS. But what we found in 1302 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 23: twenty twenty twenty is that there were far more people 1303 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 23: who were voting via uo kava than there were people 1304 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 23: who filed individual tax returns from overseas. And I think, 1305 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 23: just to kind of follow up on what Brian said, 1306 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,800 Speaker 23: our issue isn't whether or not these people should be 1307 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 23: eligible federal lawses they that if they are real people 1308 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 23: and if they are really US citizens, that they are 1309 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 23: eligible to vote. What we're simply saying is the Department 1310 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 23: of State is removing any guard rails on the system 1311 01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,720 Speaker 23: that would allow these county election officials to determine if 1312 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 23: these are fraudulent. The Iranian terrorists have already shown us 1313 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,760 Speaker 23: that they are interested in exploiting the Yuo Kava vulnerabilities, 1314 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,719 Speaker 23: and the Department of State is not allowing the counties 1315 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 23: to even verify if these applicants are in fact valid. 1316 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,720 Speaker 23: They are not allowing them to do that. And in 1317 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 23: light of the fraud that was uncovered in Lancaster County, 1318 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 23: your host Stephen came back. 1319 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 9: Welcome Back with Bryan Kennedy and Heather Honey. Look, I've 1320 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 9: got a question for you because I'm quite familiar with 1321 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 9: the concept, as I think most people on the world 1322 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 9: are no taxation without representation. It's a strange inversion to 1323 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:52,600 Speaker 9: have a representation without taxation. As my understanding is, Americans, 1324 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 9: wherever they are in the world, no matter what their 1325 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 9: tax paying status is in other countries, they are still 1326 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:05,439 Speaker 9: always and everywhere obliged to pay income tax to the IRS, 1327 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 9: no matter how long abroad they've been living, right, So 1328 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 9: it would seem to me to be a relatively easy 1329 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,080 Speaker 9: thing if the political will were there. And this is 1330 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 9: something I think we're looking forward to the next Trump 1331 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 9: administration to resolve. So just tee this up. You have 1332 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,679 Speaker 9: the IRIS rules, you know, who's overboard, who's paying tax 1333 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:29,519 Speaker 9: If people aren't paying taxes, no reason for them to 1334 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,040 Speaker 9: be voting in elections despite you know, and obviously a 1335 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 9: whole range of issues that come out of this. Brian Kennedy, 1336 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,920 Speaker 9: can you just thank you for bringing Heather onto the 1337 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,559 Speaker 9: show today. Just tell me something here, do you think 1338 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 9: how feasible is this? Because again, people following this, this, 1339 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 9: this show, this transmission are so angry that here we 1340 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 9: are eight days before an election and things like this 1341 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 9: are still being teed up that that could have been 1342 01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 9: done if the political will it'd been there four years ago. 1343 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 18: Right, and we don't have that political will bend. Look, 1344 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 18: I think I think it's important to realize that if 1345 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 18: there's a single lesson from the twenty twenty election is 1346 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:17,639 Speaker 18: that once ballots get into the system, meaning once they're 1347 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 18: in the mail, once they're in the drop box, once 1348 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,799 Speaker 18: they get into the counting centers, they're going to be counted. 1349 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,880 Speaker 18: And the Democrats know this. Every lawsuit they file is 1350 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 18: designed in one one way or another to get us there. 1351 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 18: And so the point about these ut comvopots is, if 1352 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 18: that's just Pennsylvania, maybe fifteen thousand people who are not 1353 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,600 Speaker 18: registered and it's still you know, a week to go. 1354 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,879 Speaker 18: If there are people who keep on sending in ballots, 1355 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,640 Speaker 18: they get them, email to them, they print them out, 1356 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,759 Speaker 18: send them in and it's you know, ten twenty thirty, 1357 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 18: forty fifty thousand that can be decisive in an election. 1358 01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 18: That's just Pennsylvania. That's not Georgia to Arizona, Michigan or 1359 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 18: any of the other swing states. The Democrat arats have 1360 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,879 Speaker 18: made a big play here. It doesn't matter about the irs, 1361 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,640 Speaker 18: it doesn't matter about the laws. Once you get a 1362 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 18: ballot into the system, it's going to be counted and 1363 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 18: it could be decisive. 1364 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 9: And please go ahead, IM sorry. 1365 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 23: Yeah, So what we have, what we've asked for in 1366 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 23: our lawsuit. The relief that we're seeking is to have 1367 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 23: the federal judge order the Department of State to take 1368 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,800 Speaker 23: the information they already have on all of these applications 1369 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,120 Speaker 23: and attempt to verify it, attempt to match it to 1370 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 23: the Social Security Administration attempt to match it to the 1371 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 23: motor vehicle database. Right now, the Department of State in 1372 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,920 Speaker 23: Pennsylvania is not doing that, and we believe that this 1373 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,600 Speaker 23: federal judge will see that the law requires it and 1374 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 23: it will be invisible to the voters. So all this 1375 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:57,799 Speaker 23: talk about trying to disenfranchise any lawful voter is utter nonsense. 1376 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,639 Speaker 23: We are protecting the votes from dilution, protecting our military voters. 1377 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 9: Heather Hernie, president of the Election Research Institute, Thanks for 1378 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 9: coming onto the show. Just quickly. Where do people go 1379 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,760 Speaker 9: on social media to stay up with your work and 1380 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 9: your your investigative work here your research for It's. 1381 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,839 Speaker 23: Election Research Institute dot. 1382 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,879 Speaker 9: Org perfect and social media for yourself. 1383 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:26,200 Speaker 8: I don't. 1384 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,599 Speaker 9: Brian Dennedy, where do people go to stay in touch 1385 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,559 Speaker 9: with you and the committee on the person danger? 1386 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 18: Thank you, Ben, It's a present danger China dot org. 1387 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,560 Speaker 18: In on X it's Brian T. Kennedy one and on 1388 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,600 Speaker 18: Getter it's Brian T. 1389 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Kennedy. 1390 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:44,280 Speaker 18: Thank you, Ben. 1391 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 9: Thanks Brian, Thanks he thank you very very much. Catch 1392 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,680 Speaker 9: up again with you soon. God bless for now. Thank 1393 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 9: you quickly over to a Highana and Sectary of State, 1394 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 9: Frank Lrose. Frank, welcome to the show. Thanks for coming 1395 01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,400 Speaker 9: back on. Tell me about this lawsuit that your state 1396 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,880 Speaker 9: has just presented the Department for Home Run Security with Yeah. 1397 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 24: Thank you, Ben, and this week in particular, of course, 1398 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,560 Speaker 24: we're keeping our thoughts and prayers on Steve and we 1399 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 24: look forward to all look forward to seeing our friends soon. 1400 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,560 Speaker 24: We had no choice but to sue Alejandro Americas in 1401 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 24: the US Department of Homeland Security because they have been 1402 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 24: withholding citizenship data from us. They are required under federal 1403 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 24: law to make that available to us so that I 1404 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,560 Speaker 24: can do my duty, my duty to the people of 1405 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 24: Ohio of making sure that only American citizens are registered 1406 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 24: to vote. They left us no choice, so last week 1407 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 24: we filed a lawsuit against them to get this citizenship 1408 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 24: data so that we can maintain our clean voter roles 1409 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:40,559 Speaker 24: in the Buckeye State. 1410 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:48,520 Speaker 9: Incredible And the lawsuit itself that has now been formally presented. 1411 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 24: Has it that has Yeah, It was filed in the 1412 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 24: federal courts here in Ohio last week. May may or 1413 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 24: may not bear fruit for this election, but regardless, I 1414 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 24: have an important election to run in twenty twenty five 1415 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,880 Speaker 24: in Ohio and again in twenty twenty six, and so 1416 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,160 Speaker 24: we need to get the US Department of Homeland Security 1417 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,639 Speaker 24: to follow the law and actually make citizenship data available 1418 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 24: not just to me, but to other Secretaries of State 1419 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 24: for the purpose of removing non citizens from the rules 1420 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:12,880 Speaker 24: as well. 1421 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 9: Well. Secretary Louros, I have to say this, this whole 1422 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 9: theme on the show today seem to be the fact 1423 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 9: that non citizens are voting and the courts are to 1424 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 9: one de greuna that being complicit in this. Obviously, everyone 1425 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 9: in the war whishes you the best of look on this. 1426 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,519 Speaker 9: Where can they go to stay up with the progress 1427 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 9: that you're making against Alejandro Mayo class. 1428 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 24: Yeah, so we'll be sharing it on social media on 1429 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:45,120 Speaker 24: all the different platforms truth x, Facebook, etc. It's just 1430 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 24: at frank LeRose and we'll be sharing updates. And again, 1431 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 24: we've removed over seven hundred non citizens from the voter 1432 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 24: rules this year alone in Ohio. So when the Left 1433 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 24: says non citizens don't try to register, we've got proof 1434 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,760 Speaker 24: that they have in Ohio and they're going to face 1435 01:19:58,800 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 24: the consequences for doing so. 1436 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 9: Frank Nerros thanks very much as always for your coming 1437 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 9: on the show today. We'll catch up beginning with you 1438 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,120 Speaker 9: soon godless now, thank you Ben god bless, thank you 1439 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 9: quickly now because you have so many guests to hit 1440 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 9: in in in not very much time left. Mark Mitchell 1441 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:25,200 Speaker 9: Rasmusen reports, Look I saw on I look at it 1442 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 9: every day. I saw on Polymarkets that the lead now 1443 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 9: of Carmela Harris under Donald Trump has now descended to 1444 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,280 Speaker 9: thirty five points. That is, say, Donald Trump has a 1445 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 9: thirty five point lead over Camela Harris. Tell me as 1446 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 9: a professional, Oh, I just hear that. I hear that. 1447 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,840 Speaker 9: We've just We're just we've lost temporarily. Mark Mitchell will 1448 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 9: get him back up on the line. Let's go onwards 1449 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 9: to Tage Giltage or Perth Coffee. 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And it is an incredible coffee. 1471 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,800 Speaker 25: You don't need any milk sugar. You can drink it 1472 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 25: straight black. 1473 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 1: It's smooth. Even our dark roasts are smooth. You don't 1474 01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 1: need to have any milk or sugar. 1475 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,479 Speaker 9: And this coffee is compatible in all the major forms 1476 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,880 Speaker 9: of production. Like you can have it in this pardessial machine, 1477 01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 9: you can have it in that that the maker that 1478 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,320 Speaker 9: you put on the stove. You'd have it as instant right. 1479 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:24,679 Speaker 9: It works across all ye all variations yep. 1480 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 25: And we've got ca cup pods, the pods, the curried pods, 1481 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 25: what every want to call them Ca cups. We have those, 1482 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 25: We've got we sell ground, we sell a whole bean. 1483 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,960 Speaker 25: We've got everything. Like I said, we have flavored coffees. 1484 01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 25: We've got chocolate, vanilla, hazel nut we're about to drop. 1485 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,200 Speaker 25: And then we have pumpkin pie, you know, we always 1486 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,920 Speaker 25: release that for the fall. And then we're about to 1487 01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 25: drop a peppermint mocha. So and then we've got the 1488 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 25: Breakfast Blend, which is a medium roast and it's super smooth. 1489 01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,879 Speaker 1: It's super smooth coffee. It's it's incredible. 1490 01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 25: Then we have a Summer Blend, which is a medium 1491 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 25: roast with a Jamaica Blue Mountain bean bas and. 1492 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,840 Speaker 1: That one is that's my favorite. That's why I drink 1493 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 1: it at home. 1494 01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 25: And then we also have the dark Roast, which is 1495 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,400 Speaker 25: the Mariner's Blend, and we actually created that roast for 1496 01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 25: Steve Bannon when we first started working with you guys. 1497 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 1: Steve. Steve loves that coffee, the Mariners Blend. 1498 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,880 Speaker 9: Tas just before you go, tell me something, I'm I've 1499 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,160 Speaker 9: lookedant to say this on air because if the Italian 1500 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,160 Speaker 9: authorities were to find out, they would forcibly deport me. 1501 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 9: But I actually have an espresso espresso machine in my kitchen. 1502 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,479 Speaker 9: Do you are you an espresso machine compatible as well? 1503 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 1: No espresso, No, we're not. 1504 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 25: We just either hole being ground or cakeup secured pods. 1505 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,920 Speaker 25: We don't have the little an espresso pods, but just 1506 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,720 Speaker 25: we don't have enough demand for that to make them. 1507 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,360 Speaker 9: That's why you know, you know what you call that, 1508 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,200 Speaker 9: you call that standards beneath which you refuse to go 1509 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 9: take my hat off to you. 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Thanks Tage, Mark mitchell I gather we the 1523 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,799 Speaker 9: connection has been restored listen. Every day, I check Rasmus 1524 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,240 Speaker 9: and Reports to see how the how the statistics are playing. 1525 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 9: I also check polymarkets, and we've been speaking about that. 1526 01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 9: This morning, Donald Trump had a thirty five point lead 1527 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 9: over Carmen howis that is a she's thirty five points 1528 01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 9: behind according to polymarkets. Now you have flag up behind 1529 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:05,200 Speaker 9: in the past. How these betting markets can be manipulated 1530 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 9: by large singular bets? What is Just give me your 1531 01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,719 Speaker 9: quick take on the fact that since you were warning 1532 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,640 Speaker 9: the woman possly about this, it has since emerged that 1533 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,679 Speaker 9: the book of the movement on potty markets has been 1534 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:25,559 Speaker 9: determined by four bets placed overseas by a hedge trader 1535 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,600 Speaker 9: in France. Do you still give these betting markets any credibility? 1536 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:32,200 Speaker 9: Yes and no. 1537 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 18: I think they absolutely show a signal. 1538 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,599 Speaker 26: In fact, if you only had to pick between mainstream 1539 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,320 Speaker 26: media and the betting markets, I think the betting markets 1540 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 26: have done a better job of interpreting the polls than 1541 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:47,760 Speaker 26: the mainstream media has. It's pretty incredible the sequence in 1542 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,880 Speaker 26: which I mean all of this came crashing down on 1543 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:55,080 Speaker 26: Kamala Harris, because you did start to see like everybody 1544 01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 26: kind of palpably could tell that she never was going 1545 01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,439 Speaker 26: to get over the hump because the polling lead that 1546 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 26: she had was entirely fake. But what happened is before 1547 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:07,280 Speaker 26: the polling even broke down, the betting markets started looking 1548 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,080 Speaker 26: at the existing polling and Donald Trump was tied in 1549 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,120 Speaker 26: every single swing. Stay for like two months on the 1550 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,280 Speaker 26: realfare politics aggregate if there lit? 1551 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:19,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, just hold on, we'll be this point. Two minutes 1552 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:20,280 Speaker 9: after the fight. 1553 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,439 Speaker 3: I asked my friends at Tax Network usay about this 1554 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,679 Speaker 3: IRS crackdown. Everyone's talking about their advice. 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Give Tax Network USA a call, 1569 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,479 Speaker 3: it's free, talk with one of their strategists and see 1570 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,760 Speaker 3: how they can help imagine putting this nightmare behind you. 1571 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,519 Speaker 3: Call one eight nine five eight one thousand, or visit 1572 01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:23,760 Speaker 3: TNUSA dot com backslash Bannon TNUs Room. 1573 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 4: Here's your host, Stephen K. 1574 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:38,960 Speaker 9: Bab Welcome back, Mike Mitchell. Just before the break, you 1575 01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,360 Speaker 9: were saying, how you actually find these betting markets to 1576 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,240 Speaker 9: be a more reliable indicator than a lot of people 1577 01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,920 Speaker 9: give them credit for, just on this point though, on 1578 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,920 Speaker 9: the fact that such a huge margin was added in 1579 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:56,800 Speaker 9: to the odds by a particular, presumed specific individual putting 1580 01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:02,599 Speaker 9: down over forty five million dollars obviously non America, because 1581 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 9: non American, because American. In the Land of the Three, 1582 01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:07,519 Speaker 9: you're not allowed to make it. 1583 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,240 Speaker 26: There's VPNs, and there's money laundry and who knows right, 1584 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,719 Speaker 26: But at the end of the day, the betting market 1585 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,720 Speaker 26: is going to be right. At the end, it's just 1586 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,599 Speaker 26: a matter of how long whatever whale can hold out. 1587 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,759 Speaker 26: And I do think early, especially in the Swing States, 1588 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,680 Speaker 26: there were people absolutely keeping those markets locked in. But 1589 01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 26: then they just couldn't anymore because they're interpreting the polls 1590 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,679 Speaker 26: as a Trump win. So right now, all the signs 1591 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,280 Speaker 26: and indications are stacking up for a Trump win. We've 1592 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,760 Speaker 26: been at Trump plus two this entire time people have 1593 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,719 Speaker 26: been watching our daily tracker. It's had a few hiccups 1594 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,400 Speaker 26: in the last day or two. It's back up to 1595 01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,639 Speaker 26: a Trump plus one today. I'm pretty sure the average 1596 01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,120 Speaker 26: is going to be Trump plus two. We're the only 1597 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,760 Speaker 26: posters who have been saying that the media has been 1598 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 26: cherry picking other posters to say that Trump is winning. 1599 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,720 Speaker 26: But right now, the betting markets show that Trump's going 1600 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,559 Speaker 26: to have a massive win. All of the election prediction models, 1601 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,160 Speaker 26: Nate Silver, Decision Death, five point thirty eight all show 1602 01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,320 Speaker 26: possible Trump win. And I think our polling does as well. 1603 01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,599 Speaker 26: With Trump plus two nationally is probably going to pick 1604 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,000 Speaker 26: up almost all the swing states, and our polling in 1605 01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,000 Speaker 26: the swing states has been favorable to Trump too. We 1606 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 26: actually just ran Virginia last night and the results are 1607 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,680 Speaker 26: coming out today and we have Trump only down two 1608 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,799 Speaker 26: points in that state, and everybody's watching the early returns 1609 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:22,520 Speaker 26: and saying, well, you know, of course MAGA is cannibalizing 1610 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,200 Speaker 26: their votes with early in person but we asked how 1611 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 26: do you plan to vote this year? And people in 1612 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 26: Virginia who say that they're going to vote in person 1613 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 26: on election day they go Trump fifty one to forty four. 1614 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,559 Speaker 26: So all the signs are really starting to add up. 1615 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,800 Speaker 26: There's going to be a Trump outperformance of the poll, 1616 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,680 Speaker 26: something I've been saying for weeks. I think is going 1617 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,479 Speaker 26: to happen, and I think poly Markets is wise to it, 1618 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,200 Speaker 26: and you're not going to hear it on msnbccn ENT 1619 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,360 Speaker 26: or any of the networks because they still want to 1620 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:52,599 Speaker 26: give Kamala Harris this fake narrative that she could win. 1621 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 9: So you got reports predicting this, You've got Polly Markets 1622 01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,599 Speaker 9: predicting this. I tell you who else thinks that Donald 1623 01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:07,360 Speaker 9: Trump is going to win. The plutocracy that owns their 1624 01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 9: lay Times as Washington Posts, right, and they're their non endorsement. 1625 01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,840 Speaker 9: There's no way. There's no way they didn't think Trump 1626 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,439 Speaker 9: was going to win. There's no way they wouldn't have 1627 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:22,200 Speaker 9: endorsed Carmlin because that's not a popular move with their readership. 1628 01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,960 Speaker 9: Mark Mitchell, thanks as always, you've been heroic in the 1629 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,000 Speaker 9: in this throughout this election campaign. Coming on briefing the 1630 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:33,960 Speaker 9: posse about the minutiae in movements? Where do people go 1631 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,200 Speaker 9: at Rasmussen Reports to stay up to date with your 1632 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,679 Speaker 9: analysis and of course your own analysis on social media. 1633 01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,360 Speaker 26: You're putting twelve state polls out this week. Ras must 1634 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 26: and underscore poll at Twitter. I'm at Mark underscore our 1635 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 26: underscore Mitchell, or hit us up at rasmusrom Reports dot com. 1636 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,000 Speaker 26: You can sign up for a free daily newsletter or 1637 01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:53,919 Speaker 26: support us with the reader subscription. 1638 01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 18: We'd really appreciate it. 1639 01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,479 Speaker 9: Mark, Thanks very much, God listener, thank you. Let's go 1640 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,519 Speaker 9: to Mike Lindell. Mike, you were telling me you had 1641 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:07,080 Speaker 9: problems with your jets that meant you couldn't get to 1642 01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,439 Speaker 9: New York every weekend. I have to say I have 1643 01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,439 Speaker 9: problems with my own firea jet all the time. He 1644 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,599 Speaker 9: spends more time. He spends more time in the hangar 1645 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:18,880 Speaker 9: than it does in the air. Well, they got to 1646 01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:19,679 Speaker 9: keep it safe. 1647 01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,599 Speaker 8: I guess they got to keep it safe in there. 1648 01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:23,800 Speaker 27: But I want to say I wanted to get on 1649 01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:27,040 Speaker 27: here and talk about the polls there with Rasmussen. You know, 1650 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,320 Speaker 27: I've said it before that it's so important that we 1651 01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,120 Speaker 27: let everybody know about those polls because the only way 1652 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,120 Speaker 27: you could ever steal an election is you have to 1653 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,800 Speaker 27: convince the public that it could happen. And if everybody's 1654 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:43,240 Speaker 27: hearing these real polls now, it's be very hard for 1655 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,240 Speaker 27: them to try and steal another election. We're not going 1656 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,240 Speaker 27: to put up with it. And I just know that 1657 01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 27: I've got so many things in place. So we have 1658 01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:55,720 Speaker 27: so many things in place across the country being proactive everybody, and. 1659 01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,280 Speaker 9: And I want you all to go to lindaleplan dot com. 1660 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,479 Speaker 4: You can check that out and what to do if 1661 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:01,040 Speaker 4: you're out. 1662 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,479 Speaker 8: Voting on election day. 1663 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,719 Speaker 4: So there's I am really encouraged. 1664 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,000 Speaker 27: I'm so glad that the polling's out there and it 1665 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 27: said it's for our great real president and everything's looking good. 1666 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,120 Speaker 27: But we can't get complacent. We've got to I was 1667 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 27: telling everyone, Ben, you go to church this Sunday. 1668 01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:20,360 Speaker 1: This is the last Sunday here. 1669 01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 27: Go to church, and you guys, tell everyone there get 1670 01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 27: out and vote. 1671 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Get out and vote. 1672 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,400 Speaker 27: If you're a pastor, you don't break you're not breaking 1673 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,639 Speaker 27: the Johnson Law by saying, hey, everybody, we need to vote. 1674 01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 1: You know, you're not telling much to vote. 1675 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:33,680 Speaker 9: Everybody knows who to vote for. 1676 01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,519 Speaker 27: But uh, I think it's very you know, this is 1677 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 27: one place where the whole country can do one last push. 1678 01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,800 Speaker 27: If everybody you don't go when they go to their church, 1679 01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:44,760 Speaker 27: just that should be the talk. 1680 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 9: That should be. 1681 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,559 Speaker 27: Hey, everybody, if you haven't voted, get out to vote, 1682 01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:48,800 Speaker 27: vote vote vote. 1683 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,240 Speaker 9: My fem about the pub and once again the offer's 1684 01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,680 Speaker 9: latest office on my pillow. 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Steve's back tomorrow. 1696 01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,240 Speaker 27: This this We're so excited our leaders back you guys. 1697 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:38,040 Speaker 27: Let's break the break the sales records today for. 1698 01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,519 Speaker 9: Him and go to my pillow dot com. 1699 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 27: Get all your Christmas presents early whenever you got to do, 1700 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,519 Speaker 27: but get your free Land of the Free. My pillow 1701 01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,160 Speaker 27: two point zero to stay shipping and handling, and there 1702 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:55,320 Speaker 27: are free shipping options available to for the posse and Ben. 1703 01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,719 Speaker 27: You did a great job all covering this last few months. 1704 01:33:58,760 --> 01:33:59,439 Speaker 1: You are awesome. 1705 01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:00,679 Speaker 20: I wanted to tell you about. 1706 01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:03,640 Speaker 9: I had the easiest job in the world. I've just 1707 01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,439 Speaker 9: got to sit here and open my math. It's everyone 1708 01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,800 Speaker 9: else that's been doing the work. Mike Mandell, thanks very 1709 01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,280 Speaker 9: much for joining us as always, catch up a game 1710 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:14,599 Speaker 9: with you soon. God bless just in the last thanks Mike. 1711 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,799 Speaker 9: In the last two minutes, quickly hear from Sean Stone, 1712 01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:22,400 Speaker 9: who's got this new six part documentary series, All the 1713 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,160 Speaker 9: President's Men out. Sean, Hey, welcome on to the show. 1714 01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:30,000 Speaker 9: Tell us a bit. You've got about two minutes, sir, 1715 01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,639 Speaker 9: what inspired you to put this together? 1716 01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:37,519 Speaker 20: This series, All the President's Men is a deep dive 1717 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,640 Speaker 20: into the real conspiracy around Russia Gate. And remember, the 1718 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,240 Speaker 20: real conspiracy was not Trump colluding with the Russians or 1719 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,600 Speaker 20: his people communing colluding with the Russians. It was a 1720 01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:53,599 Speaker 20: conspiracy by the intelligence services, by the FBI and CIA 1721 01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:58,960 Speaker 20: and others under the Obama administration, but with the ideology 1722 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,120 Speaker 20: of the Clinton campaign driving it to basically paint Trump 1723 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,960 Speaker 20: as a Russian agent, and that conspiracy, as we know, 1724 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 20: went after Michael Flynn, it went after George Papadopolis, Carter Page, 1725 01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,160 Speaker 20: and you'll see them all in the series. Rogers Stone 1726 01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,599 Speaker 20: as well, and even Steve Bannon is in the series 1727 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:19,240 Speaker 20: not for his issues with the law, but as a 1728 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,960 Speaker 20: commentator of these a lot of these events. So we're 1729 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,680 Speaker 20: we have Carls as well in the series. We have 1730 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,200 Speaker 20: Rudy Giuliani, Cash Mattel. It's an amazing cast. 1731 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,840 Speaker 9: And tell us just quickly, where do people go? How 1732 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,000 Speaker 9: do they how do they watch this this documentary series. 1733 01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,280 Speaker 20: Yeah, it's coming to Tucker Carlson's network, So Tucker Carlson Network, 1734 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:48,240 Speaker 20: dot Com online, it'll be there this week and again 1735 01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,640 Speaker 20: we're rolling it out in advance of the election to 1736 01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,200 Speaker 20: try to get as many people to see this as possible, 1737 01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,080 Speaker 20: to educate themselves if they're not already educated. But even 1738 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:57,760 Speaker 20: if you think you know the story, I guarantee you 1739 01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,840 Speaker 20: there's so many more layers that we get into with 1740 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 20: this series. Is gonna you're gonna be fascinated, even if 1741 01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:02,639 Speaker 20: you think. 1742 01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:02,920 Speaker 1: You know it. 1743 01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 9: And finally, Sean Just I know you'll come back on 1744 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:08,760 Speaker 9: the show and talk about this some more the future date. 1745 01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:10,559 Speaker 9: But in the meantime, where do people go if they 1746 01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:11,439 Speaker 9: want to read more about it? 1747 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:16,479 Speaker 20: Yeah, Tucker crossonnetwork dot Com all the President's Men. It's 1748 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,960 Speaker 20: linked there and it should be available any day this week. 1749 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:26,479 Speaker 20: And we're finalizing last you know, last little copyright issues, 1750 01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:28,200 Speaker 20: So any day this week it'll be up. 1751 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,439 Speaker 9: And past. You'll come back on the show and give 1752 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,559 Speaker 9: us a heads up so that the woman Possy can 1753 01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,519 Speaker 9: go down and track that down. Sean Stone, thanks very 1754 01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:37,439 Speaker 9: much for coming on the show. 1755 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:40,559 Speaker 8: Thank you, appreciate thanks. 1756 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,080 Speaker 9: And this is it, folks. The big Man himself, Admiral 1757 01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 9: Honey Badger, will be back at the Helm tomorrow, back 1758 01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,679 Speaker 9: in his old seat. This is as I'm broadcasting from web. 1759 01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:54,200 Speaker 9: In the last closing seconds, though, I'd like to thank 1760 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,360 Speaker 9: our crack production team in DC in Denver and of 1761 01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:01,240 Speaker 9: course Cameron Wallace, the producer. Well tie this near over 1762 01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,519 Speaker 9: the last for months, keeping the war Room going. Thank 1763 01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,439 Speaker 9: you all, especially on the live chat. I give you 1764 01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,360 Speaker 9: all my love as your support and staying loyal to 1765 01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,320 Speaker 9: the war Room. Natalie will be here at five o'clock. 1766 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:16,000 Speaker 9: Stay tuned on Real America's Voice and Charlie Kirk will 1767 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,080 Speaker 9: be up at noon. Take care, now go