1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Quick Prolepside has the first Animore or up the side 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: by forty thirty ten five touchdown. There is no off 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: season for your Houston Texans. Game day is every day. No, 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: it's Texans, all Lexans. Yes, it is Hello Texans, and 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: welcome to the program. Mark Vandermaer with you with John 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: Harris and John McClain. Who boy, Johnny. The General joins 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: us tonight from Leveson top secret like the Camp David 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: Bunker or anything some layer somewhere. The General lay. Yeah, 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: it's uh all right. So he's texted to be pictures 10 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: today of the Chesapeake Bay views and vista's and whatever's 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: and it is just so nice and you can just 12 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: see temperatures in the mid seventies. You can just tell 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: by the photos. It was just perfection. And he deserves this. 14 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: But it's great to have min and General. Good evening. 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: How are you today, guys. I'm doing great. I'm coming 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: to you from your US I can hear you fine. 17 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: I'm coming to you from the front parts of our 18 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: cottage we've had done on the pet chest Peak Bay 19 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: looking out at the water. General, what's your what's your 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: itinerary week? What do you guy? Going on. I am 21 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: writing right now, John, a column for Sunday about the 22 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: wide receivers, and uh, everything seems to be up in 23 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: the air other than Brandon Cooks, who's gonna be inside, 24 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: who's going to be outside? How quick? And Nico Collins 25 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: developed as rookie who opted out as last year at 26 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Michigan and the relationship they need to build that they 27 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: started on an off season program with the quarterbacks, specifically 28 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: to Rod Taylor as they get ready for that first 29 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: game Jacksonville. Well, since you brought it up, since it 30 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: was brought up, we're talking about Kiki Qt a lot lately, 31 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: and the fact that hey finished pretty strong with the 32 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: last five games, averaging five catches seventy two yards per game, 33 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of other guys were catching a lot 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: of passes as well as they were throwing the ball 35 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: a ton productively, So Kiki had a pretty nice finish. Here, 36 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb comes back healthy. Is there room with those guys? Boy? 37 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, John, I don't know how camp, 38 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how many guys are gonna keep ed 39 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver. You know those guys, if you're not a starter, 40 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: you gotta contribute on special teams. Randall Cobb miss the 41 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: last six games. With Will Fuller being suspended the last five, 42 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: guys like Kiki and Chad Hanson stepped up the opposite 43 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: of Brandon Cooks. So they're gonna keep the best guys. Well, 44 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: what you did last year doesn't mean squat to Nick 45 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Area and David Culley and these new coaches. So you 46 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: got to bring it. If you didn't bring an off 47 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: season program, you're starting behind in training camp. And so 48 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: if they have enough guys that have to be on 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: the team, they'll cut back somewhere else. And you know 50 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: the score. You gotta have guys that can catch the ball. 51 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: If you think about this two years ago, this time 52 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: the White House where DeAndre Hopkins and Will Fuller and 53 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: now it's Brandon Cooks and somebody else. And they love 54 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: Cobb's experience. QT going into the last year of his 55 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: time TRACT, this is a big season for him. There's 56 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: no guarantee he's gonna make the team, but if he 57 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: plays like he played at the end of the the last season, 58 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: there'll be a spot for him here. John. When you 59 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: look at the veterans that the Texas brought on, Chris Connley, 60 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Alex ericson Dante Moncrief. Andre Roberts is more the returner 61 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: than he is a receiver. He's listening to that group. 62 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: But of the veterans that they brought on, which guy 63 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: do you think makes a makes the team b makes 64 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: the biggest impact of any of the veterans that they 65 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: brought on. Of that gree even Chris Moore coming off 66 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: an injury, who I thought during OTA's was as fun 67 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: to watch as any of the receivers. Who do you 68 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: think of that group could potentially make the impact that 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: they're looking for of a veteran wide receiver. Chris Conley, 70 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: mainly because we've seen him with the Jaguars. He had 71 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: over forty catches last year, I believe. And another thing, 72 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, matter how fast he was when he came 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: into the league, he's still fast and he's sixs three, 74 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: and he's got experience. You know, Dante Monker he said 75 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: his eighth year, he's got experience. But Conley can run. 76 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: You know, nic O'Collins can run, Coogs can run. State 77 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: is important here, you know, the inside guy needs to 78 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: be quicker, but more than faster. But I'm fired up 79 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: to see what Chris Connery does. Yeah, I have too. 80 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean with that speed that he has, and he's big. General. 81 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: I remember when he came for a visit at the 82 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: University of george When he's at the University of Georgia 83 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: going in draft. I remember him coming for a visit. 84 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: We arrived at about the same time and I looked 85 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: at him. I thought, is that Tod Gurley. I mean, 86 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: he's absolutely massive at that point. So general, if you 87 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: look at the let's look at the receivers and the 88 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: tight ends kind of combined. I know they're different positions, 89 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: but in some sense, you know, you keep six receivers, 90 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: maybe only four tight ends, maybe you keep five wide receivers. 91 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you keep five tight ends. But how 92 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: do you think what happens a receiver, if at all, 93 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: Does that then change what they do at tight end? 94 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Because Brevin Jordan could flex out and play a little 95 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: bit of a big wide receiver, Jordan Nakins, we've seen 96 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: do that before. How do you think those positions are linked, 97 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: if at all, with the numbers that they decided to 98 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: keep because of the guys they have at tight end, 99 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: guys like Brevin Jordan, Jordan Nakens that could play receiver. Well, 100 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: one of the good things I have in a big 101 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: practice squad again and being able to keep veterans. That's 102 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: good for a couple of guys are going to end 103 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: up on the practice squad, but I think they're going 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: to keep the best guys. If there were four tight 105 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: ends that played better than the wide receivers, I think 106 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: they keep the extra tight end. But they got a 107 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: lot of questions at tight end. We know Aikins is 108 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: going to be there and they're not going to cut 109 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan, but everything else is up in the air, 110 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: and I think they got seven of them overall. But 111 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Isaiah Coulter, he didn't get 112 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: on the field as a rookie, but you guys know 113 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: most players make their biggest improvement between the first and 114 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: second year. And we knew coming from Rhode Island and 115 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: a smaller college and going out there and playing with 116 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: the big boys, and he might not make a contribution 117 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: as a fifth round pick, but who knows what's going 118 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: to happen in him. Cassario kept him. He obviously liked 119 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: something about him. I'm guessing Cassario liked him when he 120 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: came out of college. He was, you know, a long 121 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: punt away from the Patriots. So I'm guessing that a 122 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: guy like that has a really good opportunity. But it's 123 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: going to be tough when you have so many veterans, 124 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: and of all the receivers and the tight ends, the 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: one I am most intrigued to see is Gohlly Wearing, 126 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: because Wearing hasn't done squat for two years, but he's 127 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: still on the team. He flashes when he's out there. 128 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: He looks like a tackle who can run. You know, 129 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: he's built like a Greek statue. He can do everything 130 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: you want, but he's got to get it down mentally 131 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: and he's got to produce. And he flashed enough last 132 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: year to make you think, wow, if he can just 133 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: put it together, well, this is his last chance with 134 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: the Texans. You either put it together in your third 135 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: year and you're going to go somewhere else. John running Backs. 136 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: My committee is their room for all four of these veterans. 137 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: And I know they have other guys like Scottie Phillips, 138 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: and I think Hilliard is more of a special teamer, 139 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: and obviously Howell is, but they have the four vets 140 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: room for all do injuries solve the problem. How do 141 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: they handle that well? Injuries would solve the problem, Martin, 142 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: But they're not going to four veteran running backs. The 143 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: third and fourth one would have to play special teams. 144 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: And many of those guys play special teams. And I 145 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: think this with the seventeenth game, and they really only 146 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: were too deep with the Johnson's last year, and neither 147 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: one I've played as well as they were capable. But 148 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: with the renewed emphasis on the running game under Cully 149 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: and of course Cassario, I think that they'll they'll they'll 150 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: be too deep and maybe three and somebody's going to 151 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: get hurt. So the third guy play, But that fourth 152 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: guy it's gonna be hard to beat out Buddy Howe 153 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: because he's so good on special teams, and special teams 154 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: are important right now if we're looking at offense, defense 155 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: and special teams, which is the best. Special teams are 156 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: the best, and they've even made them better this year 157 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: with the addition of Andre Roberts and some more guys 158 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: who can cover and block. So I look for the 159 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: special teams to be really good. Wade Smith said on 160 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: six ten last week he thinks the special teams can 161 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: be good enough to win a couple of games, and 162 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: that would be great, especially if Andre Roberts can give 163 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: the offense a field position that it's been lacking because 164 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: the return game was almost an after thought. So Cassario 165 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: signs a pro bowler, and I can't wait to see 166 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: the special teams. You know, it's not gonna matter what 167 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: we see at camp. I want to see him when 168 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: they start playing preseason games. But any of those backups, 169 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: they better be able to contribute in that area because 170 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: if they ain't ain't going to be able to do it, 171 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: then that's going to figure prominently in whether they stay 172 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: or go. John you mentioned it a second ago when 173 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: you said the Johnson and Johnson, David and Duke Johnson. 174 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: Duke's not sign with anybody. Is that surprising at all? 175 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: It is? Yes, it is because two years ago I 176 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: thought Duke was good. You know that Bill O'Brien gave 177 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: up a third round compensatory pick to get him. And 178 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: then last year he didn't play very well, but not 179 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: many Texans played very well, and I Duke get a 180 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: job somewhere when somebody gets hurt, and I started thinking, 181 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: if David Johnson could stay healthy, you know, last year, 182 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: he would add close to thousand yards, rising close to 183 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: fifteen five hundred yards, receiving in about fifteen hundred yards, 184 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: and double digit touchdowns if he played all sixteen games 185 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: based on the pace. Now, I don't see that happening 186 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: this year because I think the wear and tear of 187 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: having a private a running game that's a key part 188 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: of the offense, is gonna cause the guys to get injured. 189 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: But I would love to see what Johnson could do 190 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: for sixteen games, and the running back I'm most excited 191 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: to watch his Philip Lindsay, because he's young. You know, 192 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: he had two thousand yards seasons. He got hurt last year, 193 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: he got cut. He's got something to prove because he 194 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: grew up in Colorado. He was such a big deal 195 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: in Denver, a very popular local kid, undrafted free agent, 196 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: and they told him they didn't want him anymore. So 197 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: he's coming to camp with a big chip on his shoulder, 198 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't end up 199 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: being the starting running back. Interesting general, we'll get back 200 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: to some more Texans camp tidbits here, but I tweeted 201 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: this out and I thought, man back in the day, 202 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: camp would have already been underway for several weeks now 203 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: at least a couple. So take us back, and I 204 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: know we talk about this maybe every year, but I 205 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: think it's very interesting to the days when training camp 206 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: would begin in early July, I believe, and they would 207 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: ramp up for six preseason games Oilers in San Angelo. 208 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: I think they were in Acadosius one year. Where and 209 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: when and how do the memories fly for you when 210 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: you recall Oiler training camp days with bum Phillips and 211 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: the other guys. Well, first of all, training camp today's 212 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: a piece of cake compared to those for the players 213 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: and everybody. I like going on the road at Bill camaraderie. 214 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: It used to have a lot of fun. The media. 215 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: We'd go to dinner, we'd go to movies, we'd go 216 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: have a few beers at night. We'd played golf together 217 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: when we had a chance to do it. Times on 218 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Sunday when they were off, the coaches would play golf 219 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: with some of us, and it was a lot of 220 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: fun where you really got to know people and you 221 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: know they didn't treat you like a disease. And so 222 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: I thought my first camp and I thought about this 223 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: last week David Carter played eight years and the offensive 224 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: line for the Oilers. He died on Saturday. And David 225 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: was sixty seven in my first camp, but he was 226 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: a rookie nineteen seventy seven. Nackinoches. I made to drive 227 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: up there, had no clue about what I was doing. 228 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: The main beat guy Al Langue, he was at a 229 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: church camp, so they told me go up for a week. 230 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: They got the rookies, some vets will be in there, 231 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: and it was. It was so early. I got to 232 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: watch the Baseball All Star Game while I was at 233 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: Stephen F. Boston, and I went to a TV in 234 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: black and white, sitting on a counter in the kitchen 235 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: at the dorm, and I was watching it, and this 236 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: blind haired young guy came down and sat next to me, 237 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: and he was watching it. And now a Lake reached 238 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: over and said, Hi, I'm John McLean from the Chronicle. 239 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: I'm here until how Landern gets here. And he says, hey, 240 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm wait, and I said. I met Wade Phillips. And 241 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: that was six preseason games, eight week camp the rookie 242 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: a week with the rookies, and as soon as the 243 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: players got to camp, they hit with pads and those 244 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: coaches put them through every Oklahoma drill because that's what 245 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: they used to get them in shape. Players had to 246 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: work jobs in the offseason. They started trying to get 247 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: in shape in June. They didn't do it like today, 248 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: where you'd be at the silly all year round, get 249 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: three meals a day and get everything you need. They 250 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: started getting ready in June, and coaches thought, we're gonna 251 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: beat the hell out of them, and we're gonna do 252 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: it right away, and they'll help them get in shape. 253 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, there are no more injuries 254 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: back then than there are today, even though it was 255 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: a lot tougher physically and mentally. I remember a player 256 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: one time would beat on his knee with a bible 257 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: and to work with so swell up because he didn't 258 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: want to have to go out for two days. Because 259 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: sometime after two two and a half hour practices, they 260 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: make them run sprints, and they were they were throwing 261 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: up and blowing snot bubbles and Cousin at the trainers 262 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: and the coaches and and bum Phillis was just laughing 263 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: about it. But it was fun. At night. Those guys 264 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: would go out. I've seen guys drink a case of 265 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: beer in an hour from the time the meetings ended 266 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: to curfew. And I'll tell you another great story, because 267 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: it's two prominent members of the Houston Oilers who are 268 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: in the Pro Football of Fame, and neither one of 269 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: this of them will admit this, but it's true. Bruce Matthews, 270 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: first ballot nominee, Mike Munchaki, Mocco's offensive life coach. I 271 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: think it was eighty six. We're in Sam Marcus and 272 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: no it was. I'm sorry, it was like ninety or 273 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: ninety one. Jack Pardee called Steve water and the strength 274 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: and rehab coach to his room at the door, and 275 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: he took him to the back, opened the curtains and said, 276 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: see those things, See that furniture flying off the balcony. 277 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: You want you to go over there and tell Matthews 278 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: and Munchak to quit competing to see who could throw 279 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: the furniture of the farthest. Waterson said me, you don't 280 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: want to do it. He said, I'm the head coach, 281 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: and that's and I'm telling you to do it. So 282 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: Waterson tells the story going over there and knocking on 283 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: the door and telling Munchack Matthews. They got a quick 284 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: competing and turn the lights out and go to bed 285 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: and get ready for two days. General, what did they 286 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: did back in the day, What did they do in 287 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: the spring? Anything at all? Like when the season was over, 288 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: it was just over, and they didn't see him again 289 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: until the beginning of training camp. And now they they 290 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: had offseason program. And like in nineteen ninety three, Buddy 291 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: Ryan came in as a defensive coordinator and he wanted 292 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: to make the defense and one of the things he 293 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: did the meat. He used to go over and watch this. 294 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: He would have the players out there in shorts and 295 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: T shirts and lining up and going through drills, and 296 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: he had them hitting each other and they getting fist fights, 297 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: and we could write about it. I remember seeing guys 298 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: go into the locker room because their face was bloody 299 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: and clean it up and come back out. And Lamar Lathan, 300 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: you have aged number one pick in nineteen ninety Lamar 301 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: who still lives in Houston. He was built like a 302 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: statue and he came in. He played defensive in outside 303 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: linebacker well, but he thought he needed to get tougher mentally, 304 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: so he dropped him down to about fifth on the 305 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: depth chart, and he didn't have enough linebackers to put 306 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: ahead of him, so he moved Joe Bowden, who's with 307 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: Eddie George's new staff at Texas Southern, and he put 308 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: him in front of Lamar. And those guys used to 309 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: get in practice before fights before they lined up about 310 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: who was going to line up first, and the coaches 311 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: just dated up. When Vil was there, he loved for 312 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: his guys to get in fights. One time, Lamar Lathan 313 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: and a guard Kevin Donnelly and training camp in San 314 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: Antonio got in the fight on the field and then 315 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: it went off the field, and then they were in 316 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: the weight room throwing dumbells and barbells at each other. 317 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: Fortunately nobody got hurt bad. They're just blowing off steam, 318 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: and the coaches loved it when nobody got hurt. What 319 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: about the blur of covering six preseason games back then, John, 320 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: we just went from four to three, but with six, 321 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: how did you handle that? How did they play the guys? 322 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're gonna play a lot of guys 323 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna cut, but still you're trying to get your 324 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: team ready and that's a lot of exposure to injuries 325 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: as well, the way they handled preseason then when six 326 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: and then when they went to four, and this could 327 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: be the way they do it now because they have 328 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: a bye week, so they have two weeks to get 329 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: ready for the first game. So I don't think you're 330 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: going to be resting your starters in the third game 331 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: and have them have three weeks off and be rusty 332 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: by the time you play the first game like Jacksonville. 333 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: So they would start and the starters would play a 334 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: little bit. Next one they play a little more, a 335 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: little more than the last one, which was usually against 336 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They would play three quarters both teams, and 337 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: they'd be ready to start. Now. Of course, they when 338 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: they had four, they didn't play the starters in the 339 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: fourth game because they had ten days. So I don't 340 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: know if every coach is going to handle it the 341 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: old fashioned way or if they'll keep doing it that 342 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: way because it's new territory that we're in. But back then, 343 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: when I was young and so excited to be covered 344 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL, I just was excited to see a game. Now, 345 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: of course, I hate preseason games. But I've said this 346 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: before and I'll say it again. When you have fifty 347 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: new players, including forty two veterans. I'd love to see 348 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: the Texans have a fourth preseason game because the coaches, 349 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: they've got to learn a lot to learn about their players, 350 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: and they need as much time as they can to 351 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: do it. And the only one you can know, really 352 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: truly is when you're playing against somebody else. So the 353 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: Texans could use that fourth preseason game. General, there are 354 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: a number of Texans, a lot of them that have 355 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: got to play at at an extremely high level for 356 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: this teamv successful in twenty twenty one. But it feels 357 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: like there are a handful of guys that you absolutely 358 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: have to get a strong season out of them. I've 359 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: talked about a few. I think Titus Howard is very 360 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: key to his team and depending whether he plays guard 361 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: or tackle or what every place. I think Titus's progress 362 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: is huge. I think Lonnie Johnson's progress is huge. I 363 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: think Ross blacklocks a massive important factor to take a 364 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: step up. Is there a player too in your mind 365 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: that you look at and go, these guys had better 366 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: show something this year or else or else it was 367 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: roster spot or else's team is gonna take a nose that, 368 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. Who are the guys that 369 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: you think are that important that they've got to take 370 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: steps forward for this team to take a big step forward. 371 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: The first of all, I'm gonna tell y'all the story. 372 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: One time I was talking to Al Davis at an 373 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: NFL meeting about the old f Held days. He talked 374 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: to me because I love the Oilers back when I 375 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: was a kid and he was assistant coach for the 376 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: Chargers under said Gilman when they played the first two 377 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: championship games that the Oilers won. And one time he 378 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: told me, he said, you can't win if you can't score. 379 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: He said, I want guys that could score. He said, 380 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: I want a quarterback and throw the ball down the field. 381 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: I got to have a running back. I got to 382 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: have receivers who got to speed to get down field 383 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: and tight in to work the middle. And didn't say 384 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: anything about defense. But of course defense important. But it 385 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how great your defense is if you can't score. 386 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: So the most important player in the Texans is Trod Taylor. 387 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: And the problem with Tard the last two times he's 388 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: been a starter, he's gotten hurt both early in both seasons. 389 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: So if that happens to him three times and you've 390 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: got Jeff Driscoll or Davis Mills. I'm guessing if he's 391 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: out a long period of time, Sarrio is going to 392 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: sign another veteran quarterback. And so we know what they 393 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: have with Brandon Cooks. The other wide receivers wide open. 394 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: I think whoever the slot receiver is, he'll be productive. 395 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: And of course the lines have got to do a 396 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: good job run blocking. They're going to have more ballance. 397 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: I think they'll get a back or two can run 398 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: because they have so many candidates. But they have to score. 399 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: They have to have a better field position from the 400 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: return game. They have to be able to be better 401 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: in the red zone. You can't fumble at Indianapolis's two 402 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: yard line and one yard line. And then defensively, you know, 403 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: you think about all the one score losses they had 404 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: last year. I think it's eight or nine. Think about 405 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: that overtime game at the Titans when they just took 406 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: it straight down the field and overtime. The defense cannot 407 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: allow the big plays. And I think the guy like 408 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: Titus Howard, if Marcus Cannon were to beat him out, 409 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't see him going anywhere because Cannon's thirty three 410 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: years old odds are he would not be the starter 411 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, so I don't think Titus would 412 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: be traded. But I think Titus is going to win 413 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: that job. And I think both guard jobs are wide open. 414 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: And as we talked about last week, I guessed in 415 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: my Sunday column that they would open with Jalil Johnson 416 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: and Malie Collins at tackle and Charles amn who and 417 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson and end, and then in passing situations they 418 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: would take out the tackles and bring in some more 419 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: pass rushers. And so you know, you've got to have both. 420 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Both lines have got to be set, and they've got 421 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: to be solid, and they got to be consistent because 422 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: if you have those problems up front that they had 423 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: last year, it's going to affect you across the board. 424 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: So that's something that has to start up front and 425 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: body King the defensive line coach, James up in the 426 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: new offensive line coaches. There's going to be a lot 427 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: of people watching them and analyzing them because of the 428 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: guys they are responsible for. John and the I have 429 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: no control over this, So why I even worry about it? Department? 430 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: Rich Eisen has COVID and he's been double vaxed and 431 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: he has symptoms. And obviously there are other people like this, 432 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not one of these alarmists or paranoids. But 433 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: as far as the NFL is concerned, this testing every 434 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: fourteen days for vaccinated players is fine. However, the vaccinated 435 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: players have permission to do virtually anything. And I'm wondering 436 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: if we're gonna lose more guys this year than we 437 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: did last year, not because they're sick, but they just 438 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: test positive because they might be exposed to people with it. 439 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? And I'm you know again, 440 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: I have no control over this stuff. Well, first of all, 441 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: I've said a million times and I'll say it again, 442 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: if you're a player coach and you don't get your vaccinations, 443 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: you're moron, because not only you in danger, you're in yourself. 444 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: You're in dangering your teammates. Even if it's just contract tracing, 445 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: they're out to miss games with only seventeen games, it 446 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: can cost you a game, you know, I just it 447 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: just amazes me. But anyway, if you have had your 448 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: two vaccinations, it's almost like you can go to clubs, 449 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: you can go anywhere you want, and so you can 450 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: be exposed to somebody else. When I got my shots 451 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: early on and I got fiser and it's ninety five percent, 452 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: So there's five percent that have two shots. They're still 453 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: going to get COVID, but it's not supposed to be 454 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: as severe when you get it, So there's no one 455 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: hundred percent guarantee on any of these shots. Maderna was 456 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: like ninety four and then the one from Johnson and 457 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: Johnson has just one. It was sixty eight. So it's 458 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna happen. And so if your guys are not vaccinated, 459 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: and I can't imagine a nincompoop that wants to come 460 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: to work and where the contact bracelet and have to 461 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: go through everything they went through last year because is knit, 462 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: it doesn't want to get vaccinated and he puts others 463 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: in danger. It's almost like if you get if you 464 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: get COVID nineteen from being a numbskull, they ought to 465 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: not pay you, but of course they're going to get 466 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: paid because that's the union. I just I hope that 467 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: that's not true. And they don't have players who test positive. 468 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: But man, if you didn't get vaccinated, you cost your 469 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: team a game or two, Shame on you. General, what 470 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: do you have going on to the chronicle for us? 471 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm working on this column about the wide receivers. I've 472 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: got two blogs up and I'll be hitting the ground 473 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 1: running Monday, writing every day through the end of the season. 474 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: And I have pumped up, I think since my first 475 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: camp was seventy seven, I've been to a lot of him. 476 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: Every year, I get really fired up, feel like a 477 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: rookie again, and so I'm excited to get over there. 478 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: They've lifted a lot of the restrictions for the media. 479 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: We have a zoom call about it tomorrow to tell 480 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: us what the proto calls are. Glad they're getting some 481 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: fans in as well. It will feel more like a 482 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: real training. Can't gonna be fun. General, can't wait. Thanks 483 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: so much for being with us tonight. Hey Mark and John, 484 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Thank you guys very much. I always love coming on 485 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: with you. Can't wait to do it again next week. 486 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: Thank you all right, and enjoy Chess Speak, Bay and 487 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: the Beautiful Weather. James Missioner wrote a book called Chesspeak. 488 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: Like he wrote Texas and Mexico and Alaska. He also 489 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: wrote Chess Speak and I've got that one. I gotta 490 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: read it all right, Johnny, coming up, We're not going 491 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: to play more likely to happen tonight. What we are 492 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: going to do is get some gut reaction from you. 493 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: Usually you do this segment, but I'm stealing it for tonight. 494 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: I've got some reactions to these things too from around 495 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: the league. Houston Texans related, of course, let's get to 496 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: it next on Texans Radio. Texans All excess continues in 497 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: a moment, from the slightest bend to complex motions. You're 498 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: is made to move. 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Do it, Mark Vandamair, John Harris, whether you 508 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: we've got Texans training camp live beginning two weeks from 509 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: last night, Johnny, it's two weeks from it's less than 510 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: two weeks. It's lush juve. Yeah, July twenty eight, eight 511 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: to ten am, we will be out there alive at 512 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: the Houston Methodist Training Center doing our thing, and we'll 513 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: have I hope Nick Kissario on that. Look I haven't. 514 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't really adding that confirmed yet, but he'll be 515 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: there on I know he will. Anyway, it's gonna be 516 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: fun to be out there and talk about what's happening 517 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: on the practice field. As they'll ramp up. You know, 518 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: they can't wear pads right away, as we all know, 519 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: it'll take them a few days to get into pads 520 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: and do all that. But look, they'll be doing more 521 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: football stuff than they are now, which is zero at 522 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: the Houston Metist Training Center. But guys are working out 523 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: on their own. In fact, yes, I heard about a 524 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: lot of guys working out together in various groups in 525 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: various places. So that's really cool. I know a lot 526 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: of teams do that, but these guys, you have so 527 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: many new players from different places. It's nice to hear 528 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: that they're getting together. Johnny, I've got gut reaction for 529 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: you are you ready for this? All? Right? Here we 530 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: go that the Titans are going to add Jeff Fisher, 531 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: Floyd Reese, and bum Phillips to their ring of on 532 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: or gut reaction. Ugh, the bumm Phillips one is the 533 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: one that gets me. Well, that's that's why. Yeah, I mean, 534 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: that's the one that gets me. It's like, you know, 535 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: somebody made a good point. You know, there was a 536 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: talk about you know, hey, they were actually the oilers 537 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: still in Tennessee. I'm like, okay, but when they've warned 538 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: the retro oilers jerseys, they wore the nineteen sixties oilers jerseys. 539 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: So if you want to wear the nineteen ninety seven 540 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee Oilers jerseys, okay, fine, you know, but you can. 541 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: I just this whole thing about um, it's got kind 542 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: of funny now they think about it. I saw I 543 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: saw a guy. So they're doing a bunch of construction 544 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: down in the surf level, and I saw a guy 545 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: that was working and most of the guys you see, 546 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: they're not wearing He's wearing an oiler's hat. No, yes, 547 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: oh my god. And I wasn't sure exactly what to 548 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: say because I'm Mark, I'm be honest. For a long 549 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: time I wore I I have this awesome oiler's hat 550 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: and I love it. But when I got in the building, 551 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: I stopped. I stopped wearing it. I got a I 552 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: got a great Oilers starter jacket. Right, I can't wear that. 553 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: That's just gotta sitting in the closet. It's which is fine, 554 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I'll send it to I'll send a starter jacket. That 555 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: is cool. It is so nineties. But the whole Bump 556 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: Phillips thing is I mean, come on, put Jeff Fisher 557 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: up there. I think Floyd I think Floyd Reese was 558 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: still with the I think he was with the Titans. 559 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: You know, put the put the people that earned it 560 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: in Nashville. Put him with there, like Jeff Fisher. Great, 561 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Floyd Reese, fantastic. You know, bum problem, no problem with 562 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: those guys. Rees and Fisher. Fine, look, bum Phillips. You 563 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: know what this is, Johnny. This is ok. This is 564 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: you divorced, you got remarried, but you tell your new wife. 565 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to celebrate my ex wife's birthday, even though 566 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: she's not here. I want to celebrate it in our house. Okay, 567 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: that's what that is. Is and when you said, oh, well, 568 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: they had the Oiler name in Tennessee. Yeah, but that's 569 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: like I couldn't. It's it's a woman, the equivalent of 570 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: a woman divorcing, and she couldn't get the name changed 571 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: right away, all right, And that's why the name hung on. 572 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't like they took great pride in wearing the 573 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: Oiler jersey in Tennessee. They wanted to change that baby 574 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. To their credit, I understand wanting 575 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: to start a new history in Nashville. And guess what, 576 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: since you did, and I know the McLean doesn't like this, 577 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: that's why I didn't bring it up in a France segment. 578 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: But since you did, why not take me up on 579 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: my idea, which is sort of put the oilers to 580 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: rest in Houston. Come up with an Oiler hall or 581 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: museum and say this is where the oilers live now 582 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: in eternity. Okay, this is an Oiler Hall of Fame 583 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: or whatever. I know it costs you a few bucks, 584 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: but come on, it's probably worth it to preserve what 585 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: you would like to press, since you don't want to 586 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: let go of the past. Because the people in Nashville 587 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: couldn't give a flip about Bump Phillips or Elvin Bethet 588 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: who they honored when they got into the Hall of Fame, 589 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: or any of those guys. That's all I have to 590 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: say about that right now. Yeah they care about Steve 591 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: McNair and Eddie George. Yeah, I forget that Eddie George 592 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: was actually here in Houston for a year, which yeah 593 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: we're think about, but you know it's Steve McNair. The 594 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: seedlings of what was the early Titans team were here 595 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: in Houston, which is fine. But well, you know that's fine, 596 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: all right. They they belonged to Nashville. I get it. 597 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: All those guys who went to the Super Bowl in 598 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine and everything good for you. However, I just 599 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, Bump Phillips is not a Titan. Okay, not 600 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: at all. Gut reaction to this, As Jimmy Johnson says, 601 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: urban Meyer is frustrated with the lack of hours he's 602 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: getting with these pro football players, right, not enough time 603 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: negotiated in the CBA, I guess or whatever the complaint is. 604 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: What is your gut reaction to what Jimmy john And 605 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: had to say about urban Meyer being frustrated. I am 606 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: so not surprised. When I saw this, I was like, 607 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: and what I mean, how you had to know this 608 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: was gonna be the situation with Urban He he's used 609 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: to he's used to doing it a certain way, and 610 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: the NFL says no, no, And I guarantee you, I 611 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: guarantee you Urban feels burned by his players with whatever 612 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: happened with the NFL PA and getting their OTA's slap 613 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: on the risk for twenty I guarantee you he that 614 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: he's he feels burned by that. I'm sure he's like, look, 615 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: I know the NFL, I get to CBA, I can't 616 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: be around my players. I can't do this, can't do that. 617 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: I guarantee you whatever happened and however it got reported, 618 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: he feels absolutely burned. And I think that's what he's 619 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: upset about, is like, yeah, I could have had more time, 620 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: but the players could have had this. But what he's 621 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: not saying is, man, somebody ratting me out or that 622 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't happen. You know, Hey, if the players are there, 623 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: we should be able to do certain things. Look, urban Meyer, 624 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a secret anybody. Urban Meyer 625 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: has always done whatever urban Meyer wanted to do, here's 626 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: a this is a My buddy was a silent reporter 627 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: for the Gators. He texted me, this is well, it's 628 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: a way back. It don't even text sim an email 629 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: because it was before text. And he said, hey, he 630 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: knew that I liked rban Meyer when he was at Utah, 631 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: and so when he signed when Urban went to Florida, 632 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: he asked me, he said, hey, what do you think? 633 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: Urban said, Man, you guys are gonna love him. You're 634 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: gonna love him. He gets up at his initial press conference, 635 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: his inaugural press conference, is a Gator. He talks about 636 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: all this great stuff. He talks about discipline, he talks 637 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: about all this stuff. And I called up my friend. 638 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: I said, yep, see, this is exactly what you guys 639 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: needed in Florida. So then they have this true freshman 640 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: who showed up early. His name I believe it's Avery Atkins. 641 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: And he is a whale of a player. But he 642 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: is a nightmare off the field. I mean, and for 643 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer teams at Florida that was pretty much par 644 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: for the course. And I mean Mark he was a 645 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: huge problem. He had been arrested twice. I think one 646 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: of them was shoplifting I think you're stealing from guys 647 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: in the locker room. And the coaches are like, look, Urban, 648 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: you said, you know, the discipline's gotta be our thing, 649 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: and Urban's like, no, no, no, we gotta keep him. 650 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: We gotta win, we gotta we gotta keep him. We 651 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: gotta keep that guy. But wait, you said the press conference, 652 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: you were gonna like you were gonna do things a 653 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: certain way, like this is the Gator way. He's like, no, no, no, 654 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: you know, we're sticking with this guy, and they ended 655 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: up going to the fall and he ended up he 656 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: ended up doing something else, and eventually Urban had to 657 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: get rid of him because it just got to a 658 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: point where it was way, way left. But he kept 659 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: the pounces. He kept are in Hernandez. You know, Percy 660 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: Harvin was an issue when he was at the University 661 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: of Florida. Even though I like Percy and I think 662 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: that Percy's got some he's got some demons that he 663 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: had to kind of work through. Um, but he gave 664 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: all those guys second, third, fourth, fifth chances and the 665 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: guys that got arrested on campus. I mean, it was 666 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. Urban has always done. When Urban wants to do, 667 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: and now he's under the same rules that everybody else is. 668 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: Or you can say NCAA, Oh, everybody's in the same 669 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: No they weren't, No, no they will. The NFL and 670 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. Everybody is under the same rules, and everybody 671 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: is watching, including the NFLPA and the nfl PA's players. Basically, right, 672 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: the players are unionized, so you can't get away with 673 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: too much. Remember Tom Conflin going to the Giants and 674 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: try banded spring practices and immediately the players turn demand Basically, 675 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happened, because how else do people 676 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: find out about it? So urban apparently allegedly being frustrated 677 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: with limits on players time. My response to that is 678 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: every college coach I've ever worked with, and football or 679 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: basketball or baseball even complained about the lack of hours 680 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: they had with players because of the NCAA rules. Right, Oh, 681 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: in the spring, we only get them for X number 682 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: of hours of week, and we only have X number 683 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: of practices during the r In the fall, they're always 684 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: crying about the lack of time they get with their players, 685 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, well, why would he be frustrated here, 686 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: since really, in the spring, when you do have them. 687 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: You have them all day basically, right, when do you 688 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: get these college players all day? I guess when you're 689 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: at Florida or Ohio State or maybe Utah or maybe 690 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: Bowling Green two. Other than that, you don't get them 691 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: every day allegedly, right, So you're right that if you 692 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: don't get turned in in college, maybe they don't know. 693 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: The Other thing about college that's interesting to me is 694 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: now you have all these seven on sevens, whatever they 695 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,959 Speaker 1: do in the summer, guys are on campus all summer long. 696 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: This was not the way thirty years ago, twenty five 697 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: years ago. Now they're on campus all summer long. Basically 698 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: you want to go off vacation with your parents, forget 699 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: about it. Even my kid playing freshman high school basketball, 700 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: going into a sophomore year, rising sophomore, they've done a 701 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: lot of stuff this summer, not with the coach officially, 702 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: but AAU ball. It's all your choice, right, But it's like, 703 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, you choose to pack your parachute when you 704 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: get on the plane because you might need it right 705 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: or when you jump out of the plane. So it's 706 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: an interesting sports world we live in. I remember, look, 707 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: I remember stories about Judge Heathcote, the basketball coach at 708 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: Michigan State, Magic Johnson's coach, and you're not allowed to 709 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: watch your players prior to the start of midnight Madness 710 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: at the time the practice sessions. But he would be like, Yeah, 711 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm just watching my team. Sorry, I'm sitting here in 712 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: the bleachers that I'm gonna watch my team. And he 713 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: would tell anybody would listen, and nobody challenged him on that, 714 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: And I would imagine that goes on a lot of 715 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: places in the country. Now the rules are different. I 716 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 1: get it. You can go these international trips. The point 717 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: is this, I guess in college it's a little bit 718 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: more of the wild West. In the NFL, you are right, 719 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: my read, it is so much more controlled. So we 720 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: gotta remember that. Okay, I got a couple more for you, 721 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: yea from around the league, and we'll get you ready 722 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: for camp. It's coming up less than two weeks. It's 723 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: Texans Radio touchdown. Texans Radio continues in a moment. Two 724 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 1: is better than one. How many times have you heard 725 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: that one more than once? I bet, because it just 726 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: adds up. For example, there are two, not one, great 727 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: reasons to fill up with Chevron with techron number one 728 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: unbeatable cleaning power and number two, or maybe this should 729 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: be number one unbeatable mileage. Plus Chevron puts Techron in 730 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: every grade every gallant of their gasoline. So that's two no, wait, 731 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: three unbeatable reasons to go with the one and only 732 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: Chevron with Tekron, care for your car, Care for your car, 733 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: going somewhere the Texans Mobile. Don't leave home without it. 734 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,959 Speaker 1: Great dabul lesson, Thank Texans Radio, Mark Vandamar and John 735 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: Harris with you a few more things from around the 736 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: league here. Tex Sins will begin training camp practice on 737 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: July twenty eighth, that's a Wednesday morning, and the open 738 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: practices start after. But open is an interesting word here. Obviously, 739 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: season ticket members go first, and there are some other 740 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: opportunities to get some tickets to practice, and I recommend 741 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: becoming friends with a season ticket member or becoming one yourself. 742 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: All right, this is a really good thing to do, 743 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: so think about that. Houston Texans dot com has more information, 744 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: all right. Kirk Cousins, Johnny erv Smith, I love these headlines. 745 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: Earth Smith Jr. Kirk Cousins has a lot more swagger 746 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: this year. Do I even bother with this? One, should 747 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: I even bother cousins having swagger in July is not 748 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: exactly what Viking fans want to hear. Tell me how 749 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: you're doing in December and possibly January. Okay, let's go 750 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: to the next one here. What about Tom Brady and 751 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: this report that he had a knee injury that did 752 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: not make the injury report is a significant one MCL, 753 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: a torn MCL that required offseason surgery, but he kind 754 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: of gutted it out through the remainder of the season, 755 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: never made the injury report. Your thoughts, Yeah, never made 756 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: the injury report. That's some shady you know what that 757 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: that's that in right? Um? That's the an injury report, 758 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: is there? You know that? How many times Mark, we've 759 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: seen guys go on the injury report, Like we see 760 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: him in the hallway, walking in the hallway, walking fine, 761 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: seem in practice fine, and you see him on the 762 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: injury report Like, wait a second, why is he an 763 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: injury report? And he he's walking fine in the hallway, 764 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: he looked fine. But um, yeah, to not have been 765 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: on an injury report at all year with a knee, 766 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: that's that's a little um, it's it's Tom Brady two 767 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody is gonna, Oh, Tom's 768 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: knee is hurt, let's go after it. I don't think 769 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: that is gonna happen. So I don't know what they 770 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what now. I won't totally put this 771 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: in the Bucks because maybe Tom didn't say anything, Maybe 772 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: Tom didn't go to the trainer. Maybe Tom didn't miss 773 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: one minute of practice, So I can't. You can't put 774 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: it completely on the Bucks. But if they knew and 775 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: they didn't put them an injury report, well then something 776 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: needs to happen to them. That's that's for sure. But 777 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: if they didn't know, and Tom just hit it from 778 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: them and didn't go to the trainer, didn't go get 779 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: checked out or any that because he knew it would 780 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: have to be reported, well then that's on Tom. There's nothing, obviously, 781 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: the Bucks could do about that. So it's kind of 782 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: an interesting situation. But I would imagine the NFL is 783 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: going to ask questions of the Bucks, did you know, 784 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: yes or no? And if you did, why was it 785 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: not an injury report? Oh wait, we don't need to 786 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: know that. We just know that you didn't put an 787 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: injury report. We're gonna we're gonna do something of some 788 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: sort of takeaway draft picks or I don't know whatever 789 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: else it could be. But if they knew and they 790 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: put him on there, that's the spear of the rule. 791 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't I don't care for them skirting that responsibility. 792 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: If you will, Yeah, it's there for a reason, and 793 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: usually to benefit the player. I know that the teams 794 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: don't want other players opposing players taking shots, but it's 795 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: to benefit the player. As far as the documentation of such, okay, 796 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: are you okay with Lamar Jackson doing defensive back drills 797 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: with teenagers on asphalt as was shown in a video? 798 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: Guys that he's you know, he's being a good guys 799 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: mentoring these teenagers is really cool stuff. I mean, they 800 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: got to be so thrilled to be doing anything with 801 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Raven said he calmed down everybody because the 802 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: backlash and social media was really strong that Jackson shouldn't 803 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: be doing this stuff. Robert Edwards on the beach before 804 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl anyone, That's the one that always comes 805 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: to mind. Robert Edwards, really talented player who ended his 806 00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: career basically during a Pro Bowl Pro Bowl beach football game. 807 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: So your thoughts here. When I first saw it, I 808 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: was like, is that from when he was back in 809 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: high school? I didn't realize it was from a day 810 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: or two ago, and I was like, Man, the Ravens 811 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: are not gonna like this. Look I am. I'm not 812 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: one of those guys that you know, Hey, man, you 813 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: gotta put that guy's gotta be in bubble wrap at 814 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: all times. You know, you can't do this. You can't. 815 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: You know, these guys are working out but taking undue risk. 816 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Patrick Mahomes was playing There was a video 817 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: of him playing basketball I think last summer, I think, 818 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: and Brett Beach was like, and that's the last video 819 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: to see if Patrick Mahomes playing basketball. Look, the pushback 820 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: has been, well, he was out doing something with the 821 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: guys in his community. Great be the all time quarterback 822 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: taking a bunch of passes. You know, um, you know, 823 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 1: do do something in which, you know, shoot free throws, 824 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 1: shoot baskets where you're not putting yourself and you slip 825 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: in fall teriously. I mean, you shit on millions and 826 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: millions dollars. I appreciate the fact that he's out there 827 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: with young kids, love it, but by Altonime quarterback from 828 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: passes do those kind of things like Brady did that 829 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: video with those little kids when it's like go Welker, 830 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: go Danny am these three little kids. It was hilarious. 831 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: Uh one more quick one thirty seconds fifteen. On this 832 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: James Gandolfini was offered the job to replace Steve Carrell 833 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: in the office. I never knew that four million dollar 834 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: three million dollar offer and or whatever it was. It 835 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: was millions, but HBO gave him enough to not take it. 836 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: How would James Gandolfini Tony Soprano do as the boss 837 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 1: in the office. That is something I'd love to see, 838 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: or I would have liked to have seen how it 839 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: went down with James Gandolfini and Dwight. That would have 840 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: kept me going for the next couple of seasons. I'm glad. 841 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad it didn't happen, though, I'm really be good 842 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: if he played Tony Soprano in that role, then it 843 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: gets really interesting. All right, Johnny, thanks so much, all right, 844 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: thanks Mark. All right, So tomorrow Nick Ferguson former Texan 845 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: Drew Dorty catches up with himbloffs of others stuff for 846 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: you as well as it's always exciting. It's always a 847 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: new exciting day on Texans Radio. And thank you Eddie 848 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: for producing a great night everyone and go Texans. This 849 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten. In America, 850 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: the future belongs to everyone, so we built the trucks 851 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: of the future for everyone. Ford F Series America's best 852 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: selling trucks for forty four years straight. Built for performance 853 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: and capability on an off road. 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