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Speaker 1: Welcome back all the smoke. Season six. Jack has been

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Speaker 1: a good run. It's been a nice three days and

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Speaker 1: we get to end it with family. Yes, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. One of the most prolific fashion designers in

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Speaker 1: the game and his Pops has been the Major League

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Speaker 1: system for fifty years. Close super old Triple og Man.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Jerry, Emmanuel and Pops. This is

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Speaker 1: a long time to thank Lauren. I know you're in

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Speaker 1: here somewhere.

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Speaker 2: You made it happen. Bro. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: We've been playing phone tag for almost two years trying

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Speaker 1: to make this shit happen. But it's it's here and

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Speaker 1: no better time. But now, how's life? I know fatherhood

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Speaker 1: is heavy with you and you're sitting here with your dad,

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Speaker 1: but how's life going for you guys?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 3: Man, we're blessed and covered and you know, I just

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Speaker 3: just feeling feel and blessed. You know, everything is you

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Speaker 3: get to a place where you're finally okay, that you're

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Speaker 3: living in like what you prayed for. Sometimes you pray

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Speaker 3: did work. I worked for this. God met me in

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Speaker 1: Fear of God itself. I know you're very spiritual. Where

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Speaker 1: did the name come from?

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Speaker 3: The name came from a devotion we were doing up

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Speaker 3: I was up there visiting. We were reading utmost for

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Speaker 3: as high as Oswald Chambers, and he was talking about

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Speaker 3: And so I had a visual of what fear and

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Speaker 3: reverence really meant, you know, not a real fear, but

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Speaker 3: that you just can't comprehend. And so yeah, man, and

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Speaker 3: growing up in the church, you know, anything that was

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Speaker 3: fear of God like that, it sets what I'm doing

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Speaker 3: I was like, Dad, I think I got a name

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, you just did your MLB collab.

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Speaker 2: It just dropped.

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Speaker 1: How long has it been in the works for.

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Speaker 3: Since I was born? You know, Like the hardest battle

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Speaker 1: I remember, probably the best part of my career was

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for my sons to be in your

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Speaker 1: So obviously it's an honor to you, Pops, the way

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Speaker 1: I think that's a beautiful thing, Pops walking through your journey? Man,

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Speaker 1: where did baseball come in to play?

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Speaker 2: Where are you from? What's going on with your lord?

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Speaker 1: If you have that much, now we got all the

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Speaker 4: Well. Baseball started familiar with my dad. My dad was

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Speaker 4: But at that time, growing up in our culture, we

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Speaker 4: You know, my father was a military man, so we

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Speaker 1: Come on, don't need the little details out there.

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Speaker 4: I like to teach, I like to develop, I like strategy.

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Speaker 3: You know, he was really leaned on what he felt

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Speaker 1: You know, I watched him same principle as you can

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and him being a manager and a coach, I think,

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Speaker 3: I was in fan by that time. I was in college,

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Jerry manual Foundation mission is to educate African African American

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Speaker 1: young men and train them on the fundamentals of baseball.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's no secret I was a huge baseball

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Speaker 2: But why do you guys feel like I just said,

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Speaker 5: They're not grooming the homegrown the kids right here in

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Speaker 2: Right in my correct box.

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Speaker 4: And and and also when you put a strain on

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Speaker 4: yeah with me? That that that that that that had

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Speaker 4: Come on, come on, then that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 4: back to the believing that, like I said earlier, this,

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Speaker 4: So they playing baseball. Now we're getting that. We're getting that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I said, man, wished to some kids come out there.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: You're right. You cheer your kids on, you play, you

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Speaker 2: Father, Jay, what's your definition of culture?

437
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 3: Oh man, I haven't never really been asked. I think

438
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 3: culture is what is what moves people.

439
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

440
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, the common music that we listen to,

441
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 3: but what what we wear, what we share, we talk about,

442
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: how we talk, you know, it's that commonality amongst us.

443
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: You know what is that? And I think you know,

444
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: to me, that's culture. It's a it's a it's an

445
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: unspoken share experience, you know. And to your point, being

446
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: blessed to be in a position to have some type

447
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: of impact or influence on that on the thing that

448
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: influenced and shaped you is you know, it's it's it's

449
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: a very humbling experience or a very humbling place to

450
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: beg in, you know, to be able to just got

451
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: back from home, coming to fam you and like I

452
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: remember being there and you know, having all these aspirations

453
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 3: and not fitting in, and you know, to be able

454
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 3: to go back and a place where you were trying

455
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: to find yourself and to be celebrated and and your

456
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: people just being proud of you, you know, and seeing

457
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: seeing your pieces out there. And then I got, you know,

458
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: some of my frat brothers telling me how they shop

459
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: or their kids, and they so proud of me, and

460
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: you know they know me as Jerry Manuel, you know

461
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like that's you know it was Jerry

462
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 3: Manuel Junior.

463
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 5: This whole time, I was making all the ship cool,

464
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 5: like you come back, you go back to home, came like,

465
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 5: you know what, I was really the cool kid this

466
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 5: whole time, you know.

467
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 3: I mean I like to say that, but not. I

468
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: was still trying to figure it out.

469
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 5: Man. I was mentally though, oh yeah, you had all

470
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 5: this stuff in your mind already.

471
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: You know what actually came out? Yeah, you know what

472
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

473
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, because I knew I

474
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: didn't know how to express it, but I knew what

475
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: cool was, and you know what I mean, And to me,

476
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: it was always had to do with number one, who

477
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: you were as a man, what you believed, and what

478
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 3: you stood for, in addition to how dignified are you

479
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: presenting yourself? How sophisticated are you presenting yourself with ease?

480
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

481
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: I watched him be the coolest dude with the same

482
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 3: blue blazer every every road trip.

483
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 2: We've seen him.

484
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 4: We already knew it here.

485
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 1: It ain't what's on what's in you? Yeah, and then

486
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: if it's on you to look out, if it's you.

487
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: You can't tell the smoking like a true light skin guilty.

488
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: We deal with.

489
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 5: Guilty past the present. What baseball players do you think

490
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 5: have the most swag?

491
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: The old school of the shields, the line of the shields,

492
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: I watched the line of the shields was the first

493
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: one with the high tops. I watched him, the first

494
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: one to play socks up like Jackie. I mean watching

495
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: him used to come and hit, hitting the cages in

496
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 3: the backyard like I mean, the guy his swag was

497
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: just crazy. I don't know if you remember. He was winning,

498
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: winning the for like a slam dunk contest.

499
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: To get athlete like my hal and all them crazy.

500
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: The line of the Shiels is by all time we swag.

501
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 4: Well, I think the guy that had the most swag

502
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: was Ricky Henderson.

503
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: You need to do it. First base.

504
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: When he hit one and yeah and then pimple round

505
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 4: man with the big old lav.

506
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: That was my favorite.

507
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 1: Up he did with his gloves and he had the

508
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: lime green gloves.

509
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was out there.

510
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: He was out there enjoying the game.

511
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: And speak to yourself in third person. Y third person

512
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: is crazy.

513
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 5: He had he had a he had a nice little

514
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 5: hop after his home run.

515
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah he started that. He started that, Yeah he started Yeah.

516
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: That.

517
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: No, that's that's considered real swag right there. Yeah, sir,

518
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: that's the greatest lead off here, no question. Yes, about

519
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: the game, no question.

520
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 4: That's the greatest, greatest one.

521
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 5: Who when you do you know that you were going

522
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 5: to be in the major league when the fashion bug hit?

523
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: When did you know you worked when the fashion bug hit? Yeah?

524
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: Man, I've been working retail part time, man, helping myself

525
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: through like Grado, you know when got my MBA and

526
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: my part time was, you know, working at Diesel. But

527
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: I had just you know, I had a knack for

528
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: like understanding what people wanted. I think, you know, when

529
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: I started the brand, there were a lot of dudes

530
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: around me that have brands, and again, like I narcissistically

531
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: kind of felt like, man, I got a little bit

532
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: more swagyan these cats, I should I could figure this out.

533
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: And then yeah, man, first collection hit, some pieces got

534
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: to Yay. He picked up my white T shirt and

535
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: he was just like, man, I can and at that time,

536
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: yay was yay from a fashion He's like, man, like,

537
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: I could see all the thought that went into this

538
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: white tea. I was like, I knew I had it.

539
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: It was just a white team I was like, I

540
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 3: knew this is what people wanted, you know what I mean.

541
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: And it was it was in that moment where I knew,

542
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: I knew I had the conviction and the vision for

543
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: what I wanted to say because someone that I had

544
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: looked up to, you know, saw what I saw what

545
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: I saw and but yeah, I just you know, and

546
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: that was my first collection, and to have somebody that

547
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: I kind of looked up to so much at the

548
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: time see that, you know, I kind of I knew,

549
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: I knew it was gonna be what was gonna be.

550
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: Like anybody else, did you battle any self doubt? Oh?

551
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still have self doubt. Yeah, Like self doubt

552
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: is something we you know, we struggle with, especially as

553
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: kind of you know, black men, when you're when you're

554
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: told your whole life that you not something you know

555
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: and not not at home but by by the world,

556
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: and so yeah, you know, deal with that a lot.

557
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: And maybe maybe that's why the brand didn't start till

558
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: after I was thirty, you know what I'm saying, Like,

559
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: you know, I kind of feel like ohe sometimes like

560
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: how he started rapping late, right, he just kind of

561
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: came in with a different, different game than some of

562
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: the younger guys, right, And I just feel like I

563
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: just had enough life behind me and enough understanding and

564
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: conviction of who I am. You know, never never desire

565
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: to be a part of a fashion click or world

566
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: or society that I knew innately didn't really want me.

567
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: So I never even had that you know, that that

568
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: that it's to be validated in that way, you know,

569
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: which is kind of why we you know, we did

570
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: our first fashion show at the Hollywood Bowl in La

571
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: I felt like, why does our perspective always have to

572
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: live against a backdrop that's not ours to be luxury?

573
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: Like what we do here that influences the world, it's

574
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: just as luxury here. So yeah, I mean I think

575
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: a lot of that just comes from again always knowing

576
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: whose I am, you know, my purpose, who I serve,

577
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: and who I am within this world. I was never

578
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: I was never unclear about that because of kind of

579
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: how I was raised. I think for your for your seventies,

580
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: that's what I told you, I said, man, you gave

581
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: me anything. Man, it was like I've always known who

582
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: I am. I think that's been my greatest asset.

583
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: I Mean, people don't understand how important that is because

584
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: there's people that struggle with that identity, their hohold, like

585
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: who am I? That don't know and understand? But at

586
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: an early age, knowing that is very important makes everything

587
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: a lot clearer, not easier, but it makes it clear.

588
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 5: Especially today with so many people looking to the outside

589
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 5: world of validation.

590
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: You know it's right there, know who it's right in

591
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: the mirror.

592
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: Fear Guard being one of the most influent, influential, and

593
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 5: recognizable brands of this era.

594
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: Where do you get your inspiration from today? We're being

595
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: so successful already.

596
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: I can't look at influence er sales or numbers as

597
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: like success. I just I'm really chasing purpose, And I

598
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: think my perspective is the same from what I started.

599
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: But each year, the ten thousand hours of my craft

600
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: is getting better, and so what I'm saying is is

601
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: becoming more clear. But I'm not really saying something new.

602
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: I'm just being able to articulate it through clothing much

603
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: more clear than I did last collection. And so I

604
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: feel like the intention and what I'm communicating this like

605
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: effortless elegance is That's what I'm always gonna say, you know,

606
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: That's that's my nice combination like that, and so like

607
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: that's how I move.

608
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: So that's why I wear your ship so much effort, Pops,

609
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: When did you start, obviously, this is the vision of dream.

610
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: It started coming to fruition in what twenty eleven is

611
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: when things started? When did you start wearing the stuff

612
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: and feeling comfortable in it?

613
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: I've always worn I'm supporting it, Okay, So anything he

614
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: put out, I have a baddy look on me. Yeah,

615
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: that's my son. Yeah, So I'm not don't I don't hesitate.

616
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's a big I mean,

617
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: you're seventy here in your seventy one, so to be

618
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: able to have like that shit is flying, you know

619
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. So to be able to be in

620
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: something that we move around in this and then that's

621
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: kind of again something that something like almost age appropriate,

622
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

623
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: But it's still fly.

624
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: So it's very comfortable. I've noticed that my generation ain't

625
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 4: quite there.

626
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: Yet because you're the same.

627
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: You're to say that we still think we got you know,

628
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: my dad.

629
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 3: Like that ship.

630
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they ain't quite there yet because I can

631
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 4: tell when I go places or have something that he

632
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: is on and they want.

633
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 3: It but they scared.

634
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: You know, come on, you can do it's.

635
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: Good for you look as cool.

636
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 4: That's not always say but but yeah, so for me

637
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 4: it's it's all. It's good because it's comfortable. And always,

638
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 4: even when I was young, I always felt that if

639
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: I could take my tennis shoes anywhere, I'm good the game.

640
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: Breakout, I can play if I can do it.

641
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: You know, just but I can still look yeah, look good.

642
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, I h every chance, I get everything. Every

643
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: time I put it on, I think I'm represent him.

644
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: So that's that's what I wear.

645
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: But you saw the void that that not many brands

646
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: have been able to do. I think obviously Jordan's able

647
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: to deal with shoes. But we always used to talk

648
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: about in the league, like we want to be able

649
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: to wear something in the game and then be fly

650
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: enough to go to the you know, and you talked

651
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: about that earlier way.

652
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: It brought me back, like.

653
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: I want to be able to go to a game

654
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: and then go after and not like, look I came

655
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: from the game.

656
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: You feel that void.

657
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: And obviously you're still in the midst of your greatness

658
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's much more to come, But do

659
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: you ever kind of sit back and be like, yeah,

660
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: we're definitely on the right track with this, and this is,

661
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: this is, this is I'm needed.

662
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: Oh man, I've never said I'm needed. Man, I feel like,

663
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 3: but you are, I'm chosen. I feel like I'm I'm

664
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: an idiot, you know. But I never feel as if

665
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 3: I'm needed. I feel like God to take somebody else

666
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: if I'm not going to step up, you know, I

667
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, you're not You're not answering the call,

668
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: like and so I'm humbled by it, you know what

669
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 3: I mean. I'm humbled that he chose me to answer

670
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: the caller, to or get a call, and I just

671
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: I chose to answer it. And I think I'm humbled

672
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: by that. But I never I never ever think it's me.

673
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: Never think it's me. I've never I've always known it's him.

674
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: Know where my ideas come from. You can't tell me

675
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: it's me. I know I know where you know.

676
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: And I got to dance and it's right, you know,

677
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: I know he know that it ain't him dance telling

678
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: him that. But but but the key thing to that,

679
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 4: to that question, is that it sometimes it feels good

680
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: to the ego, but when you feed it too much.

681
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: It could be very dangerous.

682
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: And that's what I try to We try to put

683
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: things in place to where it ain't about you. They

684
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 4: don't get too big on me. Now, come on, let's go,

685
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 4: let's get back to I feed on solid grounds, on truth,

686
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 4: on principle. We just to enjoy and enjoy the benefits

687
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: of what's going on. But let's be careful, you know,

688
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 4: be careful because it's easy to get to.

689
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: It's easy.

690
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: And then you walk out there and where are you at?

691
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: What happened?

692
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: Who am I with that type of thing? But very

693
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: proud of what he's doing and what he represents. You know,

694
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: that's that that that's that's key he represents and that's

695
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: that's that's needed.

696
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: The right way.

697
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: One of the hardest things, and towards the end of

698
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: my professional career was feeling like I was missing out

699
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: on so much of my kids. First, with the twins,

700
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: I was always.

701
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: On the road.

702
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: Obviously, your job had you on the road a lot.

703
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: Your job now kind of has you travel in the world.

704
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: How do you balance fatherhood and in family time with

705
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: the demands of both of your guys' careers.

706
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: I mean, the good thing about his career is we

707
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: always had him in the off season. So we always

708
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: had Dad at home from November until spring training, and

709
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: so we had like our good like four months with

710
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: Pops like full time. And when he was home, he

711
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: was home with fashion. Man, I don't have that off season,

712
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: you know. And so it's it's constant. And so to

713
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: answer your question, I struggle heavily. You know, my son's

714
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: eighth grade, it'll be a freshman next year. Daughters are

715
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: twin daughters are you know, going into uh seventh grade

716
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: next year and they're playing sports.

717
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: It's in the water out here, yeah.

718
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: And it's just like, man, I feel like I'm missing

719
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 3: a lot. And sometimes I'm like, man, if I obsessed

720
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: over my kids the way I obsessed over his pair

721
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: of sweat fants, you know how different you know what

722
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 3: things be. And so now I'm at that place where

723
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I got I'm spending so much time

724
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: obsessing over shapes and like photo shoots and campaigns and

725
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: you know, everything that we're doing, and it's just like, man,

726
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: like what if I put just a little bit more

727
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: of this at home?

728
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: You know?

729
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: And so to answer your question, Man's it weighs on me. Man,

730
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: it's heavy, you know, because you're believe you're doing what

731
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 3: you're called to do. But there's nothing more important than

732
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 3: being a steward over your family, right, and so finding

733
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: that balance is you know, it's tough. I'm trying to

734
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: figure it out.

735
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: What about you, pops.

736
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they said they had that four months

737
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: with you, but obviously there's eight months a year where

738
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: you're moving around.

739
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 3: I had a good wife. I have a good wife year.

740
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: Congratulations. I need to sit down with you. I can't

741
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: figure that. I'm over to at the plate.

742
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's all right, that's yeah. So that's right,

743
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: that's right. You can play for the Yankees, you can

744
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 4: play for.

745
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: The Yankees anywhere.

746
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 4: Yeah. That for me in my time, I had to

747
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 4: I had someone that believed in my dream and allowed

748
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: me to pursue it all those years and at the

749
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: same time take care of my children. So when those

750
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: four months came, I mean it was big for me.

751
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: I'm a pop up.

752
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: I'm him.

753
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 4: I gotta say I'm the best pop up in the world.

754
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm him.

755
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: And so I like kids and to have grandchildren and

756
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 4: my kids. I told my wife when we got married,

757
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: I wanted seven. I actually I wanted.

758
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: Oh boy, she said.

759
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 3: She looked at me and said, why you ever, sister.

760
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 4: You know, you know, we know you know how they

761
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: do it. But anyway, anyway, she was really the thing

762
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: that helped me get.

763
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: Through through that stretch of life, which was which was

764
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: really really, really really tough.

765
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

766
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: I mean I'm talking.

767
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: And I think that's a lot of things that people

768
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: don't talk about, Like we don't talk like, obviously, man,

769
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: you're the best, one of the best designser man, you're

770
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: in the major. Look like, Okay, that's great, but that's

771
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: not who It's a part of who we are.

772
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: Obviously.

773
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: Family is the most important. That's why a lot of

774
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: people like I played you know for fifteen years, but

775
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 1: walked away with two years left on my deal because

776
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: I just felt like, man, I'm missing too many first,

777
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And at the end it

778
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: became like a job because we were traveling so much.

779
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: You know, I'd won a championship, and I'm like, I

780
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: need to be I want to be able to take

781
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: my kids to school. I want to be able to

782
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: make their lunch. I want to be able to coach them.

783
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: I want to be able to just fucking hang out

784
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: with them, you know what I mean. And that's why

785
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: I initially stepped away from the g I stepped away

786
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: from the game period, was because I felt like I

787
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: was missing too much time with my kids. So it's

788
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: it's always an interesting it's funny your study. You're still

789
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out.

790
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: It's hard.

791
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: This is a good time for you because your kids

792
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: gonna appreciate that. They gonna appreciate that now you sacrifice.

793
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: You could have kept going and going and playing and playing,

794
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 4: but you you said, I'm doing.

795
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: This for you. I can't give you this, but I

796
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: can do this for you.

797
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 4: Appreciate that.

798
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now I told me, I mean, I can't wait

799
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: to be in your side. If I'm blessed to be

800
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: able to get to see you, know your age and

801
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: have my kids say something like that, because I did.

802
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I left the game. Yeah, I left the game to

803
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: be their coach, to be their chaperone, to be their teacher,

804
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: to be that you know, that mentor to them. So

805
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: it was it was important to me to do that

806
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: best baseball jersey of all time.

807
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: In your guys' opinion.

808
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: I gotta go with the Expos just because I grew

809
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: up and you know, you were with the Exposed the

810
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: longest right at Expos, man.

811
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: The light blue one.

812
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: I probably go to Home Whites.

813
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: The homes with the red, white and blue.

814
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the red, white and blue hat. I just

815
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: you know, something about the Expos was just super cold

816
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: to me.

817
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: You know, growing up twenty eighteen, you launched Fear God Essentials.

818
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: Walk me through the process of having a luxury brand

819
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: but also making the essential side of it essential essential?

820
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know I was approach with approach, with

821
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: an opportunity to kind of created a fusion. In the

822
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: first year, it was it was fog. It was fog,

823
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: and it felt dishonest. It felt like a water down

824
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: version of like what Fear of God was. And I

825
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: never wanted to put anything in the market that was dishonest,

826
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: and so changed the name to Essentials and really just

827
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: wanted to create these perfect basics that you could wear

828
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 3: with Fear of God, you know kind of yeah, look,

829
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: Fear of God and Essentials kind of you.

830
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, like together, you know what I mean?

831
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: And how how can you you know, not be full luxury?

832
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: Right because I never dressed full luxury and so that

833
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: also in itself was dishonest. You know, there's always something

834
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: that's maybe like a Nike hoodie or a Champion sweatshirt

835
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: with you know, you know, some expensive genes or something

836
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: you know, always playing. And so it also was honest

837
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 3: to my aesthetic. You know, how I dress. The reality

838
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: of that is a little bit of this, a little

839
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: bit of that. And how can I do all of

840
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 3: that in and of myself without having to go outside

841
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: and and it be another brand or be something else.

842
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: How was that? You know, one honest proposition from you know, athletics.

843
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: You got the whole thing. Athletics. You're a god to essentials,

844
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: right like the sneakers you know what.

845
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean, snakers all episode. Besides, you wear pops.

846
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: I might have to come up.

847
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: When I was younger.

848
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: Jy react to this tweet you made in July of

849
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. If you have essentials on Amazon, you

850
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: did not buy essential.

851
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean that's just what it is. You know, if

852
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: you bought it on Amazon, that's not essential.

853
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, how have you?

854
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: Obviously this is a copycat world. It's a form of

855
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: imitation and flattery, but at the same time it's taken

856
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: away from your business.

857
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Impost syndrome.

858
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel I feel like you know that, Like

859
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: it's like that other side of me, right, like that

860
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: arrogance that I have to battle, right because if you

861
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: bought it on Amazon, the reality is and that's all

862
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: you could afford. Like, I'm humbled by that, you know

863
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm humble by the fact that there's

864
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: a lot of knockoffs. It means we're doing something right, right,

865
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: And you know, me and my wife, you know, we

866
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: talked about my mom, but you know, at first, when

867
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: the knockoffs started happening, she just said, well, do you

868
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: not have any more ideas? I was like, of course

869
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: I got ideas, Like all right, then.

870
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: Are you what do you what are you worried about?

871
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: You know?

872
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: And that just gave me even more confidence of the

873
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: well that I'm pulling from. It's like, you could be

874
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: a variation of a little bit of but you not this,

875
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: you know, And even though this may be really hard

876
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: to tell from what you're doing that looks like this,

877
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: the people I'm speaking to know, you know.

878
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 5: It's still that taking my ship now, It's still that

879
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 5: in you right yeah, okay, yeah, okay, okay, they gotta

880
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 5: stay there.

881
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: Jay, they gotta stay there.

882
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's that, that's the that's

883
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: the arrogance, that's the that's the competitive that's the growing

884
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: up playing baseball, growing up playing sports. Side that I

885
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: also have that, you know. I think I watched Ryan

886
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: Cooler talk about, you know, the fact that he played football.

887
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 3: That's his advantage over everybody. He knows he's gonna go harder,

888
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And for me, I'm dealing

889
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: in fashion and you know, nothing against anyone, but I

890
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: know how hard I'm gonna go.

891
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

892
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: And so that that fight, you know he could he could,

893
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: you know, at least you know, I couldn't play, But

894
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 3: I have some fight.

895
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: That's half right there.

896
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: Kobe talked about that though. I mean to have that

897
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: athlete mentality, the dedication, the work ethic, all that stuff,

898
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: and be able to apply that to what you know, business,

899
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: and you were able to mean, like we talked about,

900
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: the principles you learned from sports, you can apply to

901
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: life and be just as successful, if not more successful,

902
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: in life.

903
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: We're in an age of collaborations.

904
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 5: What goes through the process of you're picking up picking

905
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 5: out who you're gonna collabor with.

906
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's changed now. I done been through a

907
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: lot of tough collabse I think now, Man, I'm more

908
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: and more trying to again be complete in and of myself,

909
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: you know. And there's some brands that we're you know,

910
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: collabing collabing with, whether it's like you know, eyeglasses that

911
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: come out next year or some some uh some bags

912
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: and backpacks and things. And these are best in class

913
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: companies that allow me to extend my perspective through through

914
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: through a through a product or a category that I've

915
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: yet to to master right in they and I bring

916
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: a perspective to them and I help, you know, and

917
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: they allow me to play in the area that I've

918
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: yet to really be able to play in. And so

919
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: for now I'm looking for, you know, collaborations that can

920
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: just help extend, you know, the the language and the

921
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: honesty of who we are. And that's why I like,

922
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: you know, Baseball, the NBA, you know, NFL that's coming out.

923
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: These are natural parts of my life, you know what

924
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: I mean. And so I'm looking to, you know, extend

925
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: the honesty of what fear of God is through a know,

926
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: an honest.

927
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: Partner legacy obviously is something that your dad's started, uh

928
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: in sports, and you've ck up and taking it to fashion.

929
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: What do you want the Lorenzo name to represent?

930
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: Man, It's it's funny, like, you know, Lorenzo is his

931
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: dad's first name. He's Jerry Manuel. I'm Jerry Lorenzo Manuel.

932
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: My son is Jerry Lorenzo Manuel the third. I never

933
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: had an intention to have a Lorenzo legacy. I was

934
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: in I was in Hollywood throwing parties, and he was

935
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: managed in the White Sox, you know, probably led the

936
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: league and getting thrown out of games, but never cursed

937
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: at an umpire. You know, it's had like a different

938
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: level of integrity to the Manual name.

939
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: You really got to saying something to get kicked out

940
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: and not be cussing. So you gotta be really saying something.

941
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 3: What were you saying?

942
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

943
00:49:52,560 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: What you talking about their mamas? And that's what I'm saying. Yeah, well,

944
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: well well well let me tell you, oh, man, I

945
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: didn't want to go here. We ain't got to if

946
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: you don't want to.

947
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 2: But yet to not get kicked out.

948
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: And let the league and getting tossed, well, a lot

949
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 3: of my.

950
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: Leaving was due to h yeah, me going off, but

951
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: I had sensed a level of disrespect.

952
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: That's where that's where you come from, first and foremost.

953
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 4: You come from. Where you come from.

954
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: You can disagree, yeah, but I respect.

955
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 4: So and being minority, not well known, but I'm in

956
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 4: the same office, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so

957
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: give that to me. And when you don't, that blows that.

958
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 4: That's where I blow off. And I don't have to

959
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: curse that you. You think I'm cursing that you, But

960
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm on a whole different level.

961
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's a different level of

962
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 5: the game.

963
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

964
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: I didn't want to I don't even know if I

965
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: want to master that.

966
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 2: That's sary.

967
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, I enjoy getting my I can cuss

968
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 1: no out referees. I don't get fined twenty five hundred.

969
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: I used to get fined twenty five hundred for it.

970
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: So now when I cuss reps out, it's just right.

971
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 3: It's free.

972
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: And I was arguing to call too.

973
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but but the spirit of like how you

974
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: talking to me?

975
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

976
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on now, yeah now.

977
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: You now you know, you know it was it was unfortunate,

978
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: But I say that to say the manual name, how

979
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: to how to set the bar, set a bar. And

980
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 3: so when I was throwing parties in Hollywood with Hennessy

981
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: bottles in my hand, I knew I couldn't use my

982
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 3: last name.

983
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: Because of what it came.

984
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: That's because of what it meant. I knew it meant.

985
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: I couldn't have somebody looking up Jerry Manuel and it's

986
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: me and the club turned and he's you know, you

987
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I mean, he'll tell you.

988
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's that's honest. So I would like

989
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: the legacy to be manual. And it's funny. I went

990
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: back to fam you know, uh, graduated in two thousand,

991
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: saw some of my frat brothers and some of my

992
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 3: baseball players, and they was all just, you know, Jerry Manuel.

993
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like they knew me when

994
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 3: it was Jerry Manuel. You know, it wasn't with how

995
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 3: the world sees and something about that. Man just felt, Man,

996
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: your brothers know me for me, you know. And so

997
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: at some point, man, I hope this legacy becomes comes

998
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: back to Manuel, comes back to you know, Lorenzo Manuel,

999
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: his father and mom's parents, and you know, it's our

1000
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 3: family legacy. It's you know, it's Manuel.

1001
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever done an interview together?

1002
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 3: This is our first time.

1003
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: Because the way you guys sit and look at each

1004
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: other when the other one is speaking, it's so dope.

1005
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

1006
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: Anything you're working on that we could you could talk

1007
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: about that we should be on the lookout for.

1008
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: Well, we just launched Women's in Paris and that that

1009
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 3: will release and in January I was, I was exciting,

1010
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 3: and then you know, we just spoke a little bit

1011
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 3: on the NFL that's coming towards the end of the year,

1012
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: you know, through Essentials, and we have a lot of

1013
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: other collaborations coming next year. I don't think I can

1014
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: speak on them just yet. But you know, like I said, man,

1015
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: it's it's fashion. It's always something coming. Man, it's all

1016
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: set today shooting, you know.

1017
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put you on the spot right here.

1018
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: We need to be the first podcast. But let me

1019
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: tell you.

1020
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 8: This is why that got us here, man, This is

1021
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 8: why this is why we winning, bro, because I was thinking,

1022
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 8: it's the whole show, my brother.

1023
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: We need to talk, man, we need to We need

1024
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: to be the first all the Smoke sponsored by in

1025
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: collaboration with Really Easy. Come on, man, were already freshest.

1026
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: It makes sense and we whip as if needed. So

1027
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: it's just it is what it is.

1028
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: But I love it.

1029
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: Quick hitters.

1030
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind. Let us know, Pops.

1031
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Greatest MLB baseball player of all.

1032
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 4: Time, Willie May.

1033
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: You're going with his guy son? Who you got?

1034
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 3: I'm going Barry Yeah, nice, I'm going Barry Bonds. That's cool.

1035
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, best trash talker in Major League Baseball history, I say,

1036
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: Dave Parker. Dave, he was a big boy too. Dave

1037
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: Parker was a big boy.

1038
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: He's turned brown. I'll be wearing my third crown.

1039
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: Talk back there was more like players ship. It was

1040
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: like yeah, it wasn't really like it was like, yeah,

1041
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: it was on some stuff like that. Yes, he said,

1042
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: when the leaves turned round, I'll be winning another batting

1043
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: crowd crowns, childhood crush.

1044
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 3: Oh man, what's her name from?

1045
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 4: Uh?

1046
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 3: Purple rain Vanity? Oh my god, that's the coldest, the

1047
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: coldest of all time. Her and Lisa Bonnay Cosby show.

1048
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Pops, toughest toughest picture you ever faced.

1049
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: He faced a lot. All of them are tough.

1050
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right right.

1051
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: The people to be your old people.

1052
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 4: Your name one that you hit.

1053
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: Bob Gibson, my solns be talking so much other people

1054
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: with my son, I'll smack the ship.

1055
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 4: Right.

1056
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: One album this for both, the one album you guys

1057
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: can listen to on repeat together or no, just you

1058
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: Your at Aliens is.

1059
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 4: My favorite Aliens anything by Curtis Mayfield.

1060
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: Curtis Mayfield, Yes, yes, you guys can rank these individually

1061
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: or together. M J Kobe Bron.

1062
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 3: It's how you said it, m J. Kobe Bron's I mean,

1063
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: and I got you know, maybe maybe somebody else the number.

1064
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 2: Three, But who you got three?

1065
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: I gotta go Curry Steph and then and then and

1066
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: then I go magic and then I go Bron.

1067
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, that what about you?

1068
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: I leave it like it is, that's right, that's right.

1069
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

1070
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: Don't fix I could go back and get Oscar.

1071
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you know, but hey, timple double King, I

1072
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: don't know if Oscar wanting problems with them three.

1073
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 4: Though, right, right, you're right, you're right.

1074
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 5: If you can see one guests on our show, who

1075
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 5: would it be, but but you have to help us

1076
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 5: get your answer on the show.

1077
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 3: I'd like to see Obama.

1078
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's.

1079
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: So, that'll that'll come true, Pops.

1080
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 5: Somebody from your era, you know that, somebody from baseball

1081
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 5: that you would like to see, you know, kind of

1082
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 5: kind of blend in with the younger generation that's still

1083
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 5: you know, with valid and sports right now, especially baseball side.

1084
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: Well, you know what would be interesting for this show

1085
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 4: would be to listen to Bob Kendricks the Negro League Museum.

1086
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Bob Kendricks, yes, yes, write that down.

1087
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 4: His storytelling and what if you've ever been to Kansas

1088
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 4: City and go to the Negro League Museum.

1089
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

1090
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 4: It's it's amazing for him to speak on that helps us, Yes,

1091
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 4: move forward.

1092
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 2: We got a chance to play what feel that played

1093
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: at oh Rickfield? Rickfield? Yeah? We got playing Rickfield?

1094
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 4: Oh he did?

1095
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we played I Want MVP. He won VP. Yeah

1096
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: you know you know softball Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, that game.

1097
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: That was in Birmingham. In Birmingham was.

1098
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: With uh we want in the game though, yeah, because

1099
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: they played the game there after us.

1100
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 4: We also game I meant Lewis.

1101
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: Reggie jack Jackson.

1102
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, they.

1103
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: Got to let it out, let it all out.

1104
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: It is rick Wood, rick Wood, rick Wood, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1105
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 4: We'll play there. Our youth group will go there and

1106
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 4: play in front of scouts.

1107
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: Forty four.

1108
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 4: We have a thing called forty four which in reference

1109
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 4: to Hank Aaron and we play a game at the

1110
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 4: end of our seminars that we have and we played

1111
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: in Rickwood forty four Black Kids, twenty two on each team, prospects, prospects.

1112
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: We're jumping into the MLB space starting next season heavily.

1113
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: So if there's anything we could do to help get

1114
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: information out, help help be a part of anything you

1115
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: guys have gone in the growth of obviously just getting

1116
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: back in the game, please please let us know.

1117
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 4: I will will, I think I think we start with

1118
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 4: if you can start with with Bob Kendricks, that would.

1119
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: That would be huge.

1120
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: Coch that would be huge.

1121
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 4: And then you know, the players you've had on here

1122
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: have been been outstanding. I mean c C is legendary,

1123
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 4: those those of us.

1124
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: We got one coming and dropping you.

1125
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: To yeah really.

1126
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: Good luck he's coming and.

1127
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 5: Yeah coming, oh man, deal we got one coming from

1128
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 5: all right?

1129
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: Sure, what happened when he just kind of yeah, but

1130
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: he's coming back. He's almost our color now again.

1131
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 4: So even have the steroid guys not being in the

1132
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, I think they should be in there.

1133
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 4: I mean, what Barry Bones there was, he ain't in

1134
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame, all the fame. Yeah,

1135
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: the best player of that of all time. And it

1136
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that those that are in there weren't doing.

1137
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 5: Nothing and that like everybody, just come on, everybody didn't

1138
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 5: do it, but majority of everybody.

1139
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: Second, guys didn't get actually caught.

1140
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: That's it, that's right.

1141
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 3: But also it was the last guy on the roster

1142
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: that shouldn't have made the big league team that also

1143
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: was juicing, you know what I mean, people that didn't

1144
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 3: even have an impact.

1145
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1146
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: It was so I don't want to say his name,

1147
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: but there was a lefty that played for the Orioles

1148
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, one season he had fifty

1149
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: two home runs and yeah, okay, buddy.

1150
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah that's think I think. So that's my opinion. Yeah,

1151
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 4: that's my opinion.

1152
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:55,959
Speaker 2: Man. That's a wrap.

1153
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: Man.

1154
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for your time. We finally got this

1155
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: continued success and and everything you guys do. We're huge fans.

1156
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: We're here for the support and man again, thank you

1157
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: guys for your Jerry Manuel Junior and Senior. You catch

1158
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: this on the draft keys never getting all this productions,

1159
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: all the smoke productions.

1160
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: You two.

1161
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: See you guys next week.

1162
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 5: M mm hmmm, mm hmmm