WEBVTT - The Garden 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.240 Previously on Number one Dad. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.640 It may have been the greatest scam for a sports fan. 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.640 Posing as a Sports Illustrated Kids reporter with your dad 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.520 and getting into all the games, not to mention the 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:14.320 locker rooms. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:19.280 It didn't matter where we were. He would turn himself 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.319 into whatever character he needed to be. We could walk 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:27.120 into a Greek restaurant and all of a sudden, he'd 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:28.040 have a Greek accent. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:32.600 He speaks French, and you know who knew His personality 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.120 is unbelievable. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.960 He had met Obama, but the way he would explain 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:42.040 it was that he had a tight relationship with him. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.360 There were moments where Manny would assume the role of 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.000 undercover police officer. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:51.720 He actually represented me in quotations, represented me. He's posing 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.200 as my attorney in a court. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.320 You cannot control him. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.680 Don't underestimate the power of what could happen. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.480 You're giving me a boosebust man because yourself. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:03.840 Just like I remember your dad. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.360 He said, you're not gonna believe this, but Gary is 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.679 climbing up the ladder and America's got talented, and he 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:10.600 was happy. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.399 He was proud. He used to love taking you to games. 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.440 Now how he got you to those games might have 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.560 been different than how you'll take Sullivan to see NHL. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.760 Games or NBA games. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.520 But the joy that you're gonna have with Sullivan is 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.280 the joy he had with you. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.839 You go to any hockey games every once in a while. Yeah, 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:32.520 I still like the garden. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:33.480 It's awesome. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.880 Have you ever gone back? No, have never gone back. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.360 Last time it was with you, it was at the 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:39.920 Ranger game. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.240 He's left someone who's. 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:41.560 Ever Then. 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.280 I am on my way to New York City to 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.320 Madison Square Garden. I'm gonna be seeing a Rangers game 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:59.280 with my dad. I can't believe I just said that, 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.200 but he and I are going to see a Rangers 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.640 game together. We are going to be sitting together. That's 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:11.880 something we never did before. We have tickets. That's also 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.280 something that never happened before when we go to the garden. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.400 But I mean, this podcast has brought up so many 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:23.440 different emotions, but going to this game, I feel brings 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:28.400 everything full circle. And this is something that meant so 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.200 much to me growing up, and it's one of my 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.480 favorite memories as a kid, going to the garden with 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.320 my dad. I don't know how we'll actually feel when 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:43.800 I'm there, but I'm going to try and cherish this moment. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:56.320 This is number one down. After I found parking, I 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.960 walked to the meeting spot and saw my father right 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.160 outside Madison and Square Garden, standing on the corner of 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.760 Seventh Avenue and thirty first Street. He was early and 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.480 he had a big smile on his face. You're excited 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:10.120 to go to the game. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.000 I'm happy to be with you again. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:13.919 Doesn't mean as much as Penny Komba youth. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:16.640 Come over, I'll show my pass. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:18.320 Heah, we got tickets. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:19.440 We don't need a pass. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.760 No, no, we got tickets. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:22.280 Yeah, they'll just. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.280 We have actual access. We don't need to jump lines, 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.600 jump ropes, and everything is good. We got legitimate tickets 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:33.000 to start. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.080 Yeah, but it's no fun when you come in legally. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.560 My dad saying it's no fun to come in legally 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.840 is quintessential him. It was a quick, funny line for 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.040 my father, but also one of the most illuminating things 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.200 he'd ever said. Breaking the rules for him was more 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.520 than a compulsion. It was a rush. My dad made 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.520 it a point in his life to always be at 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.119 the front of the line. In his mind, that's where 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.920 he belongs, and in this case, he was trying to 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.840 cut the general admission ticket line with a fake VIP 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.000 pass he had laminated from one of his previous scams, 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.560 and it worked. Oh by the way, the line had 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:14.280 five people on it. As we approached the metal detectors, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.480 my dad said hello to the security guards, just like 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:18.880 he did back in the day. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.880 Hey, how you doing. Okay, good, good to see you. 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:22.800 How are you. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.320 Of course, my father had to walk through the metal 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:30.480 detectors several times because they kept going off, Okay, I'll. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.680 The step I got shirt, Darry just take this off 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:34.919 from me. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.680 Oh yeah, I got here. That for the guys who 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:41.040 come through. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:44.320 Yeah, just walk through. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:50.400 Let's come to. Finally, after going in and out of 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.760 the metal detector and pulling different items out of his pockets, 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.719 the security guard eventually took out his wand and my 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:58.280 dad was able to get through. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:04:59.680 Thank you. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.440 So what do you think about the security here? You 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:04.000 think it's good. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:06.320 I think it's pretty good. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:06.599 Yeah. 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.039 Well, I mean it's not like you brought in a bomb. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:10.520 No, no, I didn't. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.560 So you got to say hi to everybody. I let 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:15.760 everybody know the business. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:21.560 Yeah, Well, it's all the matter of confusing people. Yeah, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.440 and that's how I get away with most of my bullshit. 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.480 I like to make my face know oh yeah, oh y am. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.040 Well, I don't think that guy's forgetting you. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:31.800 This is the stuff that used to drive me and 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.640 seeing as a kid. But after everything I've been through 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:38.120 doing this podcast, I've turned a corner. This is who 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.960 my dad is, and for tonight at least, I'm going 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.039 to try and enjoy it. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:43.920 So when was the last time you were out the 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.400 garden with you? 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.159 I'm going to say probably about. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.680 Six Yeah, ninety six, that's what I think it was 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:54.800 the last time we went together. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:56.799 Well, my phone was ringing that think. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:05:59.120 Hold on, I want. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.600 What my problem? 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:03.360 Hello? 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.320 Yeah, Hi, what's madam? I Tom goes to court tomorrow? 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:15.400 Uh huh okay, good night, bye bye. That's your uncle. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.160 Yeah, what do you want? 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:26.680 Breaking my balls about what I sued somebody? Yeah? And uh, 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.960 you wanted to remind me they're going to court tomorrow. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.560 Do I want to be there? Any answers? No, I 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:35.520 don't need to be there. 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.200 Yeah, i'msuing man right right. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.200 It's crazy how when you're with my father, he never 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.320 gets a normal phone call. It's always about a lawsuit. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.279 It must be so exhausting for him that this is 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.000 how he's lived for decades. But I guess that's the 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.080 only way he knows how to do things. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.320 What are you think of the good seem. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:56.480 Wonderful? 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.240 Remember where he sat during this ally coup or where 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:01.960 you took pictures? 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:03.880 I was down there? 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:05.560 Yeah? 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.280 And then you remember me walking out on the ice. Yeah, yeah, 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:10.680 I did. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.360 No, I might even have pictures because I went out 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.760 on the ice with my camera, and you know. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.560 If I have my camera, I'm taking pictures. That's kind 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.520 of how you remember it. In the garden, there's so 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:26.160 much better. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:27.840 It's really grand. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.120 The reverence my father and I share for Madison Square 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.440 Garden is one of the few things we are able 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.000 to see eye to eye on. When you walk in, 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.160 you instantly get goosebumps. As we sat in our seats, 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.560 my father couldn't help but reminisce and gloat about our 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.280 history in the world's most famous arena. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.000 Do you remember you were at the garden and you 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.280 went out and you came back and you had a 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:53.120 stuffed animal? 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:54.480 I do. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.120 I'm gonna tell you. When you said where you were sitting, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.000 because we would have sit together. I walked around and 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.560 I didn't have enough money to buy a stuffed animal. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.720 And then the guy behind me a line. He's like, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:08.800 he's like Presis Kett. It was Game one on the 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.400 Stanley Cup. I was walking around the garden by myself. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.800 I know I got that that stuffed animal. How do 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:15.200 you remember that? 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:16.880 I remember a lot of things. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:21.280 Yeah, and you came back and you said some guy 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:22.679 bought it, and I was all upset. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.160 I don't want you to talk to strangers. 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:26.360 Yeah. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.080 Yeah, you were letting me walk around the garden at 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.120 a ten year old, by my felf. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.160 You were going to do whatever you wanted to do anyway. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.680 I was definitely surprised to hear my father say he 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.400 remembered how a stranger bought me a Teddy Bear at 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.200 game one of the Stanley Cup Finals back in nineteen 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.559 ninety four. Even more shocking to me was him saying 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.400 he didn't want me talking to strangers. Well, if he 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.280 really felt that way, maybe he shouldn't have left his 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:56.280 kid by himself in an arena with eighteen thousand people. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:10.960 What does a magician do. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.719 He distracts you, right, you know that's what I did 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:16.360 with the gods. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.000 I was distracting him the whole times. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.800 He remember how my dad went in and out of 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.840 the metal detector when we were entering the garden. I 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.240 found out why, so what is that? 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:27.680 Don't go back. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.760 It's something you dreams get on a plane with, or 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:32.640 you get locked up. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.559 The object my dad pulled out of his pocket was 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.480 a six inch switch blade. The whole time he was 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.840 going in and out of the metal detector and talking 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.880 with security, confuse them enough. They completely missed the knife. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:45.600 Say look at this. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.880 Oh shit, Yeah, he can't go on and play with that. 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.520 No, but I could get for his security. Yeah I 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.040 just saw me do that, right. 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.120 Yeah, that's crazy. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:10:01.320 No, it's how I present myself and want My plan is, yeah, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.080 to confuse them. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.640 When I go home on the train, I have this 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:05.959 with me. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.199 If somebody fucked with me, I'm going to stab him 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.000 in one place in the leg. And if and if 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.640 he's got his hands around my neck and I'm gonna 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.959 not maybe get out, I go right for the growin 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.560 right there. You know why, artery, the main order is there. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:26.560 You cut that, I'll bleed to death. Quarter cops come 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:28.600 the guys, like. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:32.080 I was just gonna ask your directions man stab me 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:32.480 the girl. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.840 The puck was about to drop, and my father started 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.679 chatting up the two finance bros sitting next to us, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.720 bragging about my celebrity status. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.959 It's my son, he said, FAM's comedian. The last time 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.280 I brought him here, I going here to the Stanley. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.200 All right, let them watch? 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.480 Why do you need to talk to that? Listen? And 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:07.720 then I left the house. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.000 Every day, if I don't scam something is a bad day. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.760 What an insane way to live your life. But that's 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:19.000 my dad, following a path of honesty and integrity. Never 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.200 was of any interest to him. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.520 Do you want me to try to make a fake 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:25.400 idea black. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:25.640 That for you? 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:26.320 Do you like this? 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:27.760 Let me see that. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.240 I don't think I need a fake idea, you know, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.320 just a seven year old father asking his thirty seven 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.280 year old son if he wants a fake id Nothing 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.240 strange here, I won't. Do you remember where you came 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:50.080 up with the idea to go to games using Sports Illustrated? 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:51.720 Yeah? 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.719 Because he used to tell me you wanted to meet 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:00.079 different people. And I said, how am I going to 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:01.080 prove this for him? 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:01.600 Yeah? 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:04.480 Okakes money? 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:11.079 Yeah, scamming our way into the garden was obviously deceitful 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.080 and illegal, but it was also the only way my 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.280 dad saw to give his sports crazed kid a chance 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.160 to meet his heroes. And now that I'm a father, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.480 while I might not do the same thing, I completely 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:28.280 understand why he did. Maybe it was the atmosphere. I 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.280 don't know. I found myself letting my guard down around 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.880 my father. His charm was working, which, funny enough, is 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.280 exactly what my friend Sam Morrel said would happen at 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.320 the beginning of this whole thing. With a few minutes 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.520 to go in the first period, I got up to 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.920 go to the bathroom, and I gave Sam a call 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.920 to tell him what was going on. Hey, buddy, I 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:54.319 am calling you from the bathroom at Madison Square Garden. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.959 I'm at a Ranger game with my dad. Oh boy, how. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:58.480 Are they doing? 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.560 Guy who only cares about the game? I was interesting. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.000 The game's going all right, and so far it's going 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:07.120 alright with my dad too. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.120 Did he did he sneak in? Or did he? 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:10.440 Did he buy tickets? This time? 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:11.040 This time? 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.600 This time we bought tickets, And I tell you, he 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.080 definitely wishes that we snuck in. 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:16.920 I could tell I feel like he's going to need to, like, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.800 you know, rip off like a hot dog vendor or 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.840 something now, just to scratch the itch. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.040 Yeah, I mean the first thing he said, he was like, 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.800 I liked a lot more when we were when we 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:26.720 were scamming our way in. 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.440 Yeah, it's like taking Danny Ocean to a casino just 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:30.719 to like play blackjack. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:32.160 Yeah, exactly. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.600 Well is this at least enjoyable? 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.319 Is it just weird? I'm kind of in the mindset 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.959 where this is me and my dad and we're at 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.000 a game together, and you know, just try and enjoy 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.360 it for what it's worth. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.360 But it's got to be tough. I mean, there's a 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.560 reason people that actually fought in the Civil War didn't 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.200 do Civil War reenactments, you know. I Mean it's like, 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.440 this is your actual life and you're just trying to 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.120 recreate it into something that was better and more healthy. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.280 Right. I never thought of it that way. Now I 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:03.920 feel worse. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:06.280 Oh that was my intention. 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.520 I'm just saying, like I sometimes it's like you're trying 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.840 to stick a square peg into a round hole. It's like, 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.960 this isn't your relationship with him, and you're just going 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.800 to try to make it that this many years later. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:19.280 I don't know. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.280 I'm not I'm not trying to judge him, just saying 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:22.120 it must be difficult. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:22.720 No, it is. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.880 It's difficult, and I don't know where things are going 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.200 to go from here. But you know, just taking it, 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:29.440 you know, a little by little. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.000 Yeah, well that's all you can do, is you have 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.400 to see if he's up for a new kind of relationship. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.880 Right yeah. I mean, hey, don't get me wrong, I'd 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:37.800 rather be at the game with you. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.160 We'll make it happen more and more Rangers games. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.920 While I was on the phone with sam My, dad's 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.000 mic was still rolling and he couldn't help himself from 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.280 boasting about me to the two finance guys. I told 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.480 him to leave alone. If I'm being honest, it was 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.160 nice to hear. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:02.160 Yes, they're show in Vegas, Hamedy Sellar, Gary Veeter s 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:07.480 google him and do a GT. America's got talent. Howard 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.240 Stern loves him, Aliande, I gotta tell you you watched him, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:12.120 you left your balls. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.600 I guarantee it. I taught him everything he knows, right well. 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.400 I taught him is how to get into a game 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.920 like this for free. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:23.240 That's what I taught him. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.560 When I got back from the bathroom, I saw my 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.840 dad chatting these guys up. He was breaking about our 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:33.120 Sports Illustrated scam. I didn't mind. My dad was truly 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.720 enjoying the experience, and honestly, it was nice to look 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.359 back on our past accomplishments. 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.000 All right, Hey, hey, would you tell um he wrote 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:42.800 a story about it? 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:44.520 Show him this picture. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.040 My father then pulls out his phone to show the 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:48.520 Sports Illustrated article. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:54.920 I wrote, Yeah, marilemil here, I don't walk around my 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.840 ball basketball game. 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.160 You know what slider hand is, right, I do slider mind. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.920 That's him, and that's Nancy arrogant. I told you, he said. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.080 Finally, my dad left those guys alone and we tried 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.000 to act like a normal father and son. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.160 Was there anybody we ever meant that you were happy 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.000 to meet yourself? 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:31.080 Michael Jordan? I thing, yeah, yeah, that. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:31.720 Was pretty cool. 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.880 What did my mom think about us going to the game? 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:44.360 I think that mom knew that I was a good 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:51.880 con man, and she didn't want you to learn those things. 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:56.480 You have to understand something. Grandma and Grandpa went through 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.760 the Holocaust, and the people that came home were the 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.400 one you figure out how to survive, whether it was 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.080 to get a little extra piece of bread, and that 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:13.040 was my mentality, is to be able to do something. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.880 Believe me, you don't know half the ship that I've gotten. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:23.240 A lot I can't talk about. 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.720 My father has been pretty forthcoming with everything I wanted 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.080 to know so far. But what are the things he 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.280 can't talk about? Are there scams bigger than the ones 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.800 I already know? Since I started this podcast, I learned 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.720 my dad schemed his way into meeting Obama, Trump, and Biden, 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.439 that he rubbed elbows with the former head of the 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.360 New Jersey Mob and mixed it up with Supreme, one 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.280 of the biggest drug kingpins in New York. I also 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.119 learned about as many businesses that went south due to 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:55.000 his cons But what is he keeping secret? Did I 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:59.760 only scratch the surface of who my father really is. 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:04.119 I'll never be another Gretzki, I don't think, huh. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:05.399 I mean it's different. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.280 They're really good players now, some guys are really good. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.320 It's just a different era, you know. So it's like, 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.200 there's not gonna be another Michael Jordan. But Lebron James 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:15.800 was pretty good. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:21.160 I used to date Lebron James's attorney. Oh yeah, Denver. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.919 He lived in Ohio, So that's new information to me. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:30.040 My dad dated Lebron James's attorney. So if you're out there, 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.560 I'm sorry you had to endure a date with my father, 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.960 and I hope when you went out for dinner he 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.800 didn't stick you with the bill any scams. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.560 Nobody ever was like, hey in fourteen old gotta throw it. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:43.359 Throw you in the back of a trunk. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:45.159 I saw you get. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:46.680 Thrown out of the rest the sea. 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.439 Yeah, run out of the restaurant. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.440 Well, I told the guy that was fucking glass and 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.639 a thing, and he told me, you don't like it, 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:58.400 get the fuck. 0:18:58.240 --> 0:18:58.480 Out of you. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.840 It's such a fuck you. And then. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:06.119 Him and his brother both came out. His brother grabbed 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:10.000 me behind my neck. That's when I decided, when that 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:11.240 happens again, the only thing I. 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.000 Do is go after somebody's eyeballs. 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.560 If you stick your thumb in somebody's eye, it's very painful, 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.200 and if you do it right, you can pop it right. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:26.119 Out and it I'll hang right here. Yeah. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.800 Not only am I reconnecting with my father, I'm also 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.040 learning this guy's got a real action hero fantasy thing 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:36.159 going on in his mind. Stabbing guys in the balls 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:41.040 on the Long Island Railroad, thumbing eyeballs out at diners. Yeah, 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.920 he might be an out of shape seventy year old 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:52.520 Jewish guy, but in his head, he's John Wick. At 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.159 the beginning of the third period, the Ranger scored and 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.560 took a one nothing lead. My dad and I both 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.800 jumped up from our seats and high five. Felt natural, 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.520 and in that moment it felt like I had a dad. 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:05.320 I'm gonna go to the bathroom. 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:05.680 I gotta. 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.440