Speaker 1: Previously on Number one Dad.
Speaker 2: It may have been the greatest scam for a sports fan.
Speaker 2: Posing as a Sports Illustrated Kids reporter with your dad
Speaker 2: and getting into all the games, not to mention the
Speaker 2: locker rooms.
Speaker 3: It didn't matter where we were. He would turn himself
Speaker 3: into whatever character he needed to be. We could walk
Speaker 3: into a Greek restaurant and all of a sudden, he'd
Speaker 3: have a Greek accent.
Speaker 4: He speaks French, and you know who knew His personality
Speaker 4: is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: He had met Obama, but the way he would explain
Speaker 2: it was that he had a tight relationship with him.
Speaker 5: There were moments where Manny would assume the role of
Speaker 5: undercover police officer.
Speaker 6: He actually represented me in quotations, represented me. He's posing
Speaker 6: as my attorney in a court.
Speaker 1: You cannot control him.
Speaker 3: Don't underestimate the power of what could happen.
Speaker 7: You're giving me a boosebust man because yourself.
Speaker 5: Just like I remember your dad.
Speaker 6: He said, you're not gonna believe this, but Gary is
Speaker 6: climbing up the ladder and America's got talented, and he
Speaker 6: was happy.
Speaker 5: He was proud. He used to love taking you to games.
Speaker 6: Now how he got you to those games might have
Speaker 6: been different than how you'll take Sullivan to see NHL.
Speaker 5: Games or NBA games.
Speaker 6: But the joy that you're gonna have with Sullivan is
Speaker 6: the joy he had with you.
Speaker 1: You go to any hockey games every once in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still like the garden.
Speaker 5: It's awesome.
Speaker 1: Have you ever gone back? No, have never gone back.
Speaker 5: Last time it was with you, it was at the
Speaker 5: Ranger game.
Speaker 8: He's left someone who's.
Speaker 7: Ever Then.
Speaker 1: I am on my way to New York City to
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden. I'm gonna be seeing a Rangers game
Speaker 1: with my dad. I can't believe I just said that,
Speaker 1: but he and I are going to see a Rangers
Speaker 1: game together. We are going to be sitting together. That's
Speaker 1: something we never did before. We have tickets. That's also
Speaker 1: something that never happened before when we go to the garden.
Speaker 1: But I mean, this podcast has brought up so many
Speaker 1: different emotions, but going to this game, I feel brings
Speaker 1: everything full circle. And this is something that meant so
Speaker 1: much to me growing up, and it's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite memories as a kid, going to the garden with
Speaker 1: my dad. I don't know how we'll actually feel when
Speaker 1: I'm there, but I'm going to try and cherish this moment.
Speaker 1: This is number one down. After I found parking, I
Speaker 1: walked to the meeting spot and saw my father right
Speaker 1: outside Madison and Square Garden, standing on the corner of
Speaker 1: Seventh Avenue and thirty first Street. He was early and
Speaker 1: he had a big smile on his face. You're excited
Speaker 1: to go to the game.
Speaker 8: I'm happy to be with you again.
Speaker 5: Doesn't mean as much as Penny Komba youth.
Speaker 8: Come over, I'll show my pass.
Speaker 5: Heah, we got tickets.
Speaker 1: We don't need a pass.
Speaker 8: No, no, we got tickets.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they'll just.
Speaker 1: We have actual access. We don't need to jump lines,
Speaker 1: jump ropes, and everything is good. We got legitimate tickets
Speaker 1: to start.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's no fun when you come in legally.
Speaker 1: My dad saying it's no fun to come in legally
Speaker 1: is quintessential him. It was a quick, funny line for
Speaker 1: my father, but also one of the most illuminating things
Speaker 1: he'd ever said. Breaking the rules for him was more
Speaker 1: than a compulsion. It was a rush. My dad made
Speaker 1: it a point in his life to always be at
Speaker 1: the front of the line. In his mind, that's where
Speaker 1: he belongs, and in this case, he was trying to
Speaker 1: cut the general admission ticket line with a fake VIP
Speaker 1: pass he had laminated from one of his previous scams,
Speaker 1: and it worked. Oh by the way, the line had
Speaker 1: five people on it. As we approached the metal detectors,
Speaker 1: my dad said hello to the security guards, just like
Speaker 1: he did back in the day.
Speaker 8: Hey, how you doing. Okay, good, good to see you.
Speaker 5: How are you.
Speaker 1: Of course, my father had to walk through the metal
Speaker 1: detectors several times because they kept going off, Okay, I'll.
Speaker 5: The step I got shirt, Darry just take this off
Speaker 5: from me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got here. That for the guys who
Speaker 1: come through.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just walk through.
Speaker 1: Let's come to. Finally, after going in and out of
Speaker 1: the metal detector and pulling different items out of his pockets,
Speaker 1: the security guard eventually took out his wand and my
Speaker 1: dad was able to get through.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 5: So what do you think about the security here? You
Speaker 5: think it's good.
Speaker 8: I think it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's not like you brought in a bomb.
Speaker 8: No, no, I didn't.
Speaker 7: So you got to say hi to everybody. I let
Speaker 7: everybody know the business.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, it's all the matter of confusing people. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and that's how I get away with most of my bullshit.
Speaker 6: I like to make my face know oh yeah, oh y am.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think that guy's forgetting you.
Speaker 1: This is the stuff that used to drive me and
Speaker 1: seeing as a kid. But after everything I've been through
Speaker 1: doing this podcast, I've turned a corner. This is who
Speaker 1: my dad is, and for tonight at least, I'm going
Speaker 1: to try and enjoy it.
Speaker 7: So when was the last time you were out the
Speaker 7: garden with you?
Speaker 8: I'm going to say probably about.
Speaker 1: Six Yeah, ninety six, that's what I think it was
Speaker 1: the last time we went together.
Speaker 8: Well, my phone was ringing that think.
Speaker 5: Hold on, I want.
Speaker 8: What my problem?
Speaker 5: Hello?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Hi, what's madam? I Tom goes to court tomorrow?
Speaker 8: Uh huh okay, good night, bye bye. That's your uncle.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what do you want?
Speaker 8: Breaking my balls about what I sued somebody? Yeah? And uh,
Speaker 8: you wanted to remind me they're going to court tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Do I want to be there? Any answers? No, I
Speaker 5: don't need to be there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, i'msuing man right right.
Speaker 1: It's crazy how when you're with my father, he never
Speaker 1: gets a normal phone call. It's always about a lawsuit.
Speaker 1: It must be so exhausting for him that this is
Speaker 1: how he's lived for decades. But I guess that's the
Speaker 1: only way he knows how to do things.
Speaker 7: What are you think of the good seem.
Speaker 5: Wonderful?
Speaker 1: Remember where he sat during this ally coup or where
Speaker 1: you took pictures?
Speaker 8: I was down there?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: And then you remember me walking out on the ice. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I did.
Speaker 6: No, I might even have pictures because I went out
Speaker 6: on the ice with my camera, and you know.
Speaker 8: If I have my camera, I'm taking pictures. That's kind
Speaker 8: of how you remember it. In the garden, there's so
Speaker 8: much better.
Speaker 5: It's really grand.
Speaker 1: The reverence my father and I share for Madison Square
Speaker 1: Garden is one of the few things we are able
Speaker 1: to see eye to eye on. When you walk in,
Speaker 1: you instantly get goosebumps. As we sat in our seats,
Speaker 1: my father couldn't help but reminisce and gloat about our
Speaker 1: history in the world's most famous arena.
Speaker 6: Do you remember you were at the garden and you
Speaker 6: went out and you came back and you had a
Speaker 6: stuffed animal?
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you. When you said where you were sitting,
Speaker 7: because we would have sit together. I walked around and
Speaker 7: I didn't have enough money to buy a stuffed animal.
Speaker 7: And then the guy behind me a line. He's like,
Speaker 7: he's like Presis Kett. It was Game one on the
Speaker 7: Stanley Cup. I was walking around the garden by myself.
Speaker 7: I know I got that that stuffed animal. How do
Speaker 7: you remember that?
Speaker 8: I remember a lot of things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you came back and you said some guy
Speaker 6: bought it, and I was all upset.
Speaker 5: I don't want you to talk to strangers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you were letting me walk around the garden at
Speaker 7: a ten year old, by my felf.
Speaker 8: You were going to do whatever you wanted to do anyway.
Speaker 1: I was definitely surprised to hear my father say he
Speaker 1: remembered how a stranger bought me a Teddy Bear at
Speaker 1: game one of the Stanley Cup Finals back in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four. Even more shocking to me was him saying
Speaker 1: he didn't want me talking to strangers. Well, if he
Speaker 1: really felt that way, maybe he shouldn't have left his
Speaker 1: kid by himself in an arena with eighteen thousand people.
Speaker 5: What does a magician do.
Speaker 6: He distracts you, right, you know that's what I did
Speaker 6: with the gods.
Speaker 5: I was distracting him the whole times.
Speaker 1: He remember how my dad went in and out of
Speaker 1: the metal detector when we were entering the garden. I
Speaker 1: found out why, so what is that?
Speaker 8: Don't go back.
Speaker 6: It's something you dreams get on a plane with, or
Speaker 6: you get locked up.
Speaker 1: The object my dad pulled out of his pocket was
Speaker 1: a six inch switch blade. The whole time he was
Speaker 1: going in and out of the metal detector and talking
Speaker 1: with security, confuse them enough. They completely missed the knife.
Speaker 5: Say look at this.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Yeah, he can't go on and play with that.
Speaker 5: No, but I could get for his security. Yeah I
Speaker 5: just saw me do that, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 6: No, it's how I present myself and want My plan is, yeah,
Speaker 6: to confuse them.
Speaker 5: When I go home on the train, I have this
Speaker 5: with me.
Speaker 6: If somebody fucked with me, I'm going to stab him
Speaker 6: in one place in the leg. And if and if
Speaker 6: he's got his hands around my neck and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: not maybe get out, I go right for the growin
Speaker 6: right there. You know why, artery, the main order is there.
Speaker 6: You cut that, I'll bleed to death. Quarter cops come
Speaker 6: the guys, like.
Speaker 7: I was just gonna ask your directions man stab me
Speaker 7: the girl.
Speaker 1: The puck was about to drop, and my father started
Speaker 1: chatting up the two finance bros sitting next to us,
Speaker 1: bragging about my celebrity status.
Speaker 8: It's my son, he said, FAM's comedian. The last time
Speaker 8: I brought him here, I going here to the Stanley.
Speaker 8: All right, let them watch?
Speaker 5: Why do you need to talk to that? Listen? And
Speaker 5: then I left the house.
Speaker 8: Every day, if I don't scam something is a bad day.
Speaker 1: What an insane way to live your life. But that's
Speaker 1: my dad, following a path of honesty and integrity. Never
Speaker 1: was of any interest to him.
Speaker 5: Do you want me to try to make a fake
Speaker 5: idea black.
Speaker 6: That for you?
Speaker 5: Do you like this?
Speaker 8: Let me see that.
Speaker 1: I don't think I need a fake idea, you know,
Speaker 1: just a seven year old father asking his thirty seven
Speaker 1: year old son if he wants a fake id Nothing
Speaker 1: strange here, I won't. Do you remember where you came
Speaker 1: up with the idea to go to games using Sports Illustrated?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Because he used to tell me you wanted to meet
Speaker 6: different people. And I said, how am I going to
Speaker 6: prove this for him?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okakes money?
Speaker 1: Yeah, scamming our way into the garden was obviously deceitful
Speaker 1: and illegal, but it was also the only way my
Speaker 1: dad saw to give his sports crazed kid a chance
Speaker 1: to meet his heroes. And now that I'm a father,
Speaker 1: while I might not do the same thing, I completely
Speaker 1: understand why he did. Maybe it was the atmosphere. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I found myself letting my guard down around
Speaker 1: my father. His charm was working, which, funny enough, is
Speaker 1: exactly what my friend Sam Morrel said would happen at
Speaker 1: the beginning of this whole thing. With a few minutes
Speaker 1: to go in the first period, I got up to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, and I gave Sam a call
Speaker 1: to tell him what was going on. Hey, buddy, I
Speaker 1: am calling you from the bathroom at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 1: I'm at a Ranger game with my dad. Oh boy, how.
Speaker 7: Are they doing?
Speaker 4: Guy who only cares about the game? I was interesting.
Speaker 1: The game's going all right, and so far it's going
Speaker 1: alright with my dad too.
Speaker 4: Did he did he sneak in? Or did he?
Speaker 1: Did he buy tickets? This time?
Speaker 8: This time?
Speaker 1: This time we bought tickets, And I tell you, he
Speaker 1: definitely wishes that we snuck in.
Speaker 4: I could tell I feel like he's going to need to, like,
Speaker 4: you know, rip off like a hot dog vendor or
Speaker 4: something now, just to scratch the itch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the first thing he said, he was like,
Speaker 1: I liked a lot more when we were when we
Speaker 1: were scamming our way in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like taking Danny Ocean to a casino just
Speaker 4: to like play blackjack.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Well is this at least enjoyable?
Speaker 1: Is it just weird? I'm kind of in the mindset
Speaker 1: where this is me and my dad and we're at
Speaker 1: a game together, and you know, just try and enjoy
Speaker 1: it for what it's worth.
Speaker 4: But it's got to be tough. I mean, there's a
Speaker 4: reason people that actually fought in the Civil War didn't
Speaker 4: do Civil War reenactments, you know. I Mean it's like,
Speaker 4: this is your actual life and you're just trying to
Speaker 4: recreate it into something that was better and more healthy.
Speaker 1: Right. I never thought of it that way. Now I
Speaker 1: feel worse.
Speaker 5: Oh that was my intention.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like I sometimes it's like you're trying
Speaker 4: to stick a square peg into a round hole. It's like,
Speaker 4: this isn't your relationship with him, and you're just going
Speaker 4: to try to make it that this many years later.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not trying to judge him, just saying
Speaker 4: it must be difficult.
Speaker 8: No, it is.
Speaker 1: It's difficult, and I don't know where things are going
Speaker 1: to go from here. But you know, just taking it,
Speaker 1: you know, a little by little.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's all you can do, is you have
Speaker 4: to see if he's up for a new kind of relationship.
Speaker 1: Right yeah. I mean, hey, don't get me wrong, I'd
Speaker 1: rather be at the game with you.
Speaker 4: We'll make it happen more and more Rangers games.
Speaker 1: While I was on the phone with sam My, dad's
Speaker 1: mic was still rolling and he couldn't help himself from
Speaker 1: boasting about me to the two finance guys. I told
Speaker 1: him to leave alone. If I'm being honest, it was
Speaker 1: nice to hear.
Speaker 6: Yes, they're show in Vegas, Hamedy Sellar, Gary Veeter s
Speaker 6: google him and do a GT. America's got talent. Howard
Speaker 6: Stern loves him, Aliande, I gotta tell you you watched him,
Speaker 6: you left your balls.
Speaker 5: I guarantee it. I taught him everything he knows, right well.
Speaker 6: I taught him is how to get into a game
Speaker 6: like this for free.
Speaker 5: That's what I taught him.
Speaker 1: When I got back from the bathroom, I saw my
Speaker 1: dad chatting these guys up. He was breaking about our
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated scam. I didn't mind. My dad was truly
Speaker 1: enjoying the experience, and honestly, it was nice to look
Speaker 1: back on our past accomplishments.
Speaker 7: All right, Hey, hey, would you tell um he wrote
Speaker 7: a story about it?
Speaker 5: Show him this picture.
Speaker 1: My father then pulls out his phone to show the
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated article.
Speaker 6: I wrote, Yeah, marilemil here, I don't walk around my
Speaker 6: ball basketball game.
Speaker 8: You know what slider hand is, right, I do slider mind.
Speaker 5: That's him, and that's Nancy arrogant. I told you, he said.
Speaker 1: Finally, my dad left those guys alone and we tried
Speaker 1: to act like a normal father and son.
Speaker 7: Was there anybody we ever meant that you were happy
Speaker 7: to meet yourself?
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan? I thing, yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 8: Was pretty cool.
Speaker 5: What did my mom think about us going to the game?
Speaker 6: I think that mom knew that I was a good
Speaker 6: con man, and she didn't want you to learn those things.
Speaker 6: You have to understand something. Grandma and Grandpa went through
Speaker 6: the Holocaust, and the people that came home were the
Speaker 6: one you figure out how to survive, whether it was
Speaker 6: to get a little extra piece of bread, and that
Speaker 6: was my mentality, is to be able to do something.
Speaker 5: Believe me, you don't know half the ship that I've gotten.
Speaker 5: A lot I can't talk about.
Speaker 1: My father has been pretty forthcoming with everything I wanted
Speaker 1: to know so far. But what are the things he
Speaker 1: can't talk about? Are there scams bigger than the ones
Speaker 1: I already know? Since I started this podcast, I learned
Speaker 1: my dad schemed his way into meeting Obama, Trump, and Biden,
Speaker 1: that he rubbed elbows with the former head of the
Speaker 1: New Jersey Mob and mixed it up with Supreme, one
Speaker 1: of the biggest drug kingpins in New York. I also
Speaker 1: learned about as many businesses that went south due to
Speaker 1: his cons But what is he keeping secret? Did I
Speaker 1: only scratch the surface of who my father really is.
Speaker 6: I'll never be another Gretzki, I don't think, huh.
Speaker 7: I mean it's different.
Speaker 1: They're really good players now, some guys are really good.
Speaker 7: It's just a different era, you know. So it's like,
Speaker 7: there's not gonna be another Michael Jordan. But Lebron James
Speaker 7: was pretty good.
Speaker 5: I used to date Lebron James's attorney. Oh yeah, Denver.
Speaker 1: He lived in Ohio, So that's new information to me.
Speaker 1: My dad dated Lebron James's attorney. So if you're out there,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you had to endure a date with my father,
Speaker 1: and I hope when you went out for dinner he
Speaker 1: didn't stick you with the bill any scams.
Speaker 7: Nobody ever was like, hey in fourteen old gotta throw it.
Speaker 7: Throw you in the back of a trunk.
Speaker 5: I saw you get.
Speaker 7: Thrown out of the rest the sea.
Speaker 5: Yeah, run out of the restaurant.
Speaker 6: Well, I told the guy that was fucking glass and
Speaker 6: a thing, and he told me, you don't like it,
Speaker 6: get the fuck.
Speaker 1: Out of you.
Speaker 5: It's such a fuck you. And then.
Speaker 6: Him and his brother both came out. His brother grabbed
Speaker 6: me behind my neck. That's when I decided, when that
Speaker 6: happens again, the only thing I.
Speaker 5: Do is go after somebody's eyeballs.
Speaker 6: If you stick your thumb in somebody's eye, it's very painful,
Speaker 6: and if you do it right, you can pop it right.
Speaker 5: Out and it I'll hang right here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Not only am I reconnecting with my father, I'm also
Speaker 1: learning this guy's got a real action hero fantasy thing
Speaker 1: going on in his mind. Stabbing guys in the balls
Speaker 1: on the Long Island Railroad, thumbing eyeballs out at diners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he might be an out of shape seventy year old
Speaker 1: Jewish guy, but in his head, he's John Wick. At
Speaker 1: the beginning of the third period, the Ranger scored and
Speaker 1: took a one nothing lead. My dad and I both
Speaker 1: jumped up from our seats and high five. Felt natural,
Speaker 1: and in that moment it felt like I had a dad.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go to the bathroom.
Speaker 5: I gotta.
Speaker 1: Thankfully, after the goal, my dad went to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: and when he came back to our seats, he came
Speaker 1: bearing a gift. It was a bobblehead. I guess he
Speaker 1: was trying to make up for that Teddy Bear back
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 5: That's a babblehead. Oh you going? You paid?
Speaker 8: You pay for this bobblehead?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: You crazy?
Speaker 1: I'll give it the Sullivan.
Speaker 5: That's where I want to give it.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 7: You know, I walked I walked by this, but I
Speaker 7: didn't get it, but I figured that you would probably
Speaker 7: get it next time you wk.
Speaker 5: Did you really think that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I did think.
Speaker 6: I guess you were right, huh, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5: It's okay. Just think of all the money I saved
Speaker 5: all these years by not seeing you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8: I'm happy for you.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 8: I tell everybody about you.
Speaker 1: Here my dad say he's proud of me while we're
Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden takes on a whole different meaning
Speaker 1: for me. I know he's a guy who tells one
Speaker 1: lie after another, but in this moment, I like to
Speaker 1: believe he was being completely truthful.
Speaker 5: There was a movie with Robert de Niro.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he goes into a movie theater cape Fear
Speaker 6: tape fear.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Do you remember what he did in that movie.
Speaker 5: There's somebody who's just laughing, right, yeah right. I was
Speaker 5: going to do that at one of your shows.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: I'm a psychotic, I know, but I was going to
Speaker 5: do that to you. But then I decided, no, I better.
Speaker 1: Not leave it to my dad. One moment he's telling
Speaker 1: me he's proud of me, the next he's telling me
Speaker 1: he was going to heckle me cape fear style at
Speaker 1: one of my shows.
Speaker 8: Good time, great time, Thank you so much for I
Speaker 8: want to know.
Speaker 7: Let you pay pretty cick hot about it.
Speaker 1: At around ten o'clock after a Ranger's victory, my dad
Speaker 1: and I made our way out of MSG and the
Speaker 1: weirdest part was it all started to feel kind of normal.
Speaker 1: All I ever wanted was a normal childhood, and today,
Speaker 1: thirty some odd years later, I got a taste of it.
Speaker 1: I know how lucky I was as a kid, a
Speaker 1: sports obsessed boy from Long Island, getting to sit inches
Speaker 1: away from his favorite athletes, even meeting most of them
Speaker 1: at the most prestigious arena in the country. But looking back,
Speaker 1: I would trade it all for a few games in
Speaker 1: the nosebleeds if it meant I could have a regular dad.
Speaker 1: I went into this podcast searching for who my father was,
Speaker 1: and to find out whether or not in the twenty
Speaker 1: four years since i'd seen him he change, Maybe he evolved,
Speaker 1: reevaluated his past mistakes and charged a new path for himself. Well,
Speaker 1: I could confidently say he hasn't. He's a bit older,
Speaker 1: a bit slower, but he's still the same con man,
Speaker 1: bullshitting his way through life. And it's taken me going
Speaker 1: through this whole process to realize I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: It turns out I'm the one who changed. I've let
Speaker 1: go of the anger, the hate, the resentment, or at
Speaker 1: least enough of it for the two of us to
Speaker 1: catch a game at the garden. If I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what our relationship is going to
Speaker 1: look like going forward, but I don't have any regrets
Speaker 1: about seeing my father again. As the Great Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: once said, it's better to shoot and miss than to
Speaker 1: let time run out and wonder what if?
Speaker 8: Well with a great game, man, Yeah, a good game. Yeah,
Speaker 8: give me a call, don't make me wait. Twenty four years.
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