WEBVTT - We're Not Walking Back

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to OKF Daily with Meet

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<v Speaker 1>Your Girl. Daniel Moody. Pre recording from California, where I

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<v Speaker 1>am traveling, folks. A couple of things before I get

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<v Speaker 1>into today's episode one. It is just outright shocking to

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<v Speaker 1>me that we are existing in a time when half

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<v Speaker 1>of the population is in occult and doing themselves an

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary disservice in the midst of these horrific climate change catastrophes,

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<v Speaker 1>to deny themselves aid, to deny themselves facts in order

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to follow Donald Trump, who is leading them

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<v Speaker 1>off of a cliff. It was astounding to me that

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<v Speaker 1>the President of the United States had to get on

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<v Speaker 1>television to tell people that hurricanes are not man made.

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<v Speaker 1>It was absolutely unfathomable to believe that the President of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States would have to say that if you

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<v Speaker 1>take the seven hundred and fifty dollars worth of BEAMA

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<v Speaker 1>emergency aid, we're not going to seize your home. The

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<v Speaker 1>lies are reckless. They deserve litigation and accountability because they

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<v Speaker 1>are costing people their lives and their livelihood. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know when it is ever ever going to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>This election. Right now, is raizor thin and is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be decided by a handful of voters in a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of states, And that to me is terrifying, as

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is to all of you. It is

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<v Speaker 1>just not right where we find ourselves where we are,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am really scared. I'm gonna be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>it is really scary where we find ourselves right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know. I don't know, dear friends, how

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<v Speaker 1>this election is going to turn out. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it will go the way that we need it to.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do know that we are going to need

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<v Speaker 1>each other more than ever moving forward, regardless of the outcomes,

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<v Speaker 1>because the people that are working tirelessly to separate us,

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<v Speaker 1>to divide us, and to create these tents of fear,

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<v Speaker 1>these silos of fear and disinformation, are never going to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have to steel ourselves, fortify ourselves for that truth,

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<v Speaker 1>and work outside of our fear silos to connect with

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<v Speaker 1>one another again. Coming up next, I'm very happy to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to wok af Daily Craig Bowers, who has been

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<v Speaker 1>working with APLA Health on their fortieth anniversary of the

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<v Speaker 1>AIDS Walk in Los Angeles. The theme for this year's

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<v Speaker 1>AIDS Walk is We're not walking back. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in this conversation, Craig goes into the history and reminding

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<v Speaker 1>us of where this country was in the eighties when

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<v Speaker 1>AIDS was killing tens of thousands of people. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the quilts, I remember the protests by act UP, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember just the devastation, and I remember mostly the indifference

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<v Speaker 1>of the Reagan administration. To think how far we have

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<v Speaker 1>come as a country in forty years is really extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>But to think about the generation of queer people that

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<v Speaker 1>were lost is just enormous, an enormous hole that will

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<v Speaker 1>never be refilled. And so this conversation with APLA Healths

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<v Speaker 1>Craig Bowers was eye opening and a really important reminder

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<v Speaker 1>that while we continue to forge a path forward, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to always remember where we came from. So that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Craig Bowers is coming up next, folks. I

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<v Speaker 1>am very happy to welcome to f Daily the Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Marketing and External Affairs Officer of APLA Health, Craig Bauers,

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<v Speaker 1>who is joining us today to talk about the fortieth

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the AIDS Walk in Los Angeles and their

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<v Speaker 1>bold theme of we're not walking back. Craig, welcome to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to us first about APLA Health and then talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us about this important theme on this very big anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, the origins of APLA Health as it's known today,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were originally founded forty one years ago, we

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<v Speaker 2>were known as AIDS Project Los Angeles, and this was

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<v Speaker 2>an organization essentially just set up by peers in the community.

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<v Speaker 2>So once HIV and AIDS started to become known, there

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<v Speaker 2>really was not a lot of information out there for

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<v Speaker 2>the general public. So AIDS Project Los Angeles was created

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<v Speaker 2>as a way to kind of gather and disseminate information

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<v Speaker 2>to community members that we're facing an epidemic and really

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<v Speaker 2>there weren't a lot of information or resources available to them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I feel that it's important for us to

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<v Speaker 1>have this conversation, one because your walk is coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on October thirteenth, but also because I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't feel as if we talk about HIV

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<v Speaker 1>and AIDS the way that we once did probably ten

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago, where it was a part of regular

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about preventative measures, about what are the effects and

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<v Speaker 1>what are the medications that folks are taking and how

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<v Speaker 1>to protect yourselves. Why do you think that that has

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<v Speaker 1>changed so much?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it kind of dovetails into our theme

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<v Speaker 2>this year of we're not walking back, but also simultaneously

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating forty years of progress. You know, most people don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize if you're not of a certain age that for

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<v Speaker 2>the first fifteen years of this, if you became HIV positive,

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<v Speaker 2>that was essentially an automatic death sentence. There were no

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<v Speaker 2>drugs that were going to keep you alive. And so

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<v Speaker 2>until nineteen ninety six with the introduction of anti retroviral therapies,

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<v Speaker 2>this disease was essentially a death sentence. And APLA in

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<v Speaker 2>its origins, was really about disseminating information but also preparing

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<v Speaker 2>people for the inevitable realities of the disease. Right, And

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<v Speaker 2>so to your point, I think that we've made a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of progress against this disease over the course of

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<v Speaker 2>over forty years, and so it's not the automatic death

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<v Speaker 2>sentence that it used to be. In fact, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very treatable and livable condition at this point. So for that,

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<v Speaker 2>we're extremely thankful and there's a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of hard work convincing the federal government

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<v Speaker 2>that this was a serious problem, a problem to be

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<v Speaker 2>taken seriously. So in that regard, you know, things have

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<v Speaker 2>changed dramatically. That doesn't mean that HIV is not out there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it basically means that our tools that we have

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<v Speaker 2>in order to prevent people from getting HIV in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place and to get people in the medical treatment

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<v Speaker 2>if they do have the disease has dramatically shifted over

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<v Speaker 2>the course of greater than forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there was a time, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say it was around the time when I was still

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<v Speaker 1>living in Washington, d C. I want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably the early twenty tens when there was

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<v Speaker 1>actually a spike in HIV and AIDS in the LGBTQ community,

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<v Speaker 1>but particularly for black queer men. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, you know, ask you about the ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which what does education look like these days, particularly for

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<v Speaker 1>younger queer folks who don't have the memory, who don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the deep memory and understanding of the devastation that

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<v Speaker 1>was caused at the beginning of the crisis in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties and the early nineties, that kind of think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's no big deal like, how do you work to

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<v Speaker 1>educate so that we don't have spikes that happen inside

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<v Speaker 1>of the community.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's a complex problem that deserves a

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<v Speaker 2>complex set of answers. Let's back up a second and

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<v Speaker 2>just talk about America's healthcare system that really has not

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<v Speaker 2>effectively served black and brown people. And so we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this system that has not worked particularly well, that

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't been particularly welcoming to LGBTQ plus people either. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>when we talk about the disease state today, unfortunately, because

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<v Speaker 2>of that medical reality, this disease is more of a

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<v Speaker 2>black and brown disease, and it's more of a disease

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<v Speaker 2>that is prevalent in places that have not expanded Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 2>During the introduction of Obamacare, and with Obamacare, Medicaid became

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<v Speaker 2>the vehicle to deliver health services to low income people,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of if you were single or a male, or

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<v Speaker 2>it really expanded who was eligible for Medicaid services. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the states that have expanded Medicaid, you've really seen

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<v Speaker 2>a large uptake in these preventative measures to prevent people

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<v Speaker 2>from getting HIV medically that you haven't really seen in

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<v Speaker 2>non Medicaid expansion states which are predominant elite states that

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<v Speaker 2>are known as red states.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that is and I appreciate that

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<v Speaker 1>because that is a very fair point to really underscore that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we can talk about the beginning as well

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the negligence by the Reagan administration, the

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<v Speaker 1>blatant negligence, right, and how racial discrimination and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>homophobia and transphobia have played a major role in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of weaponizing our healthcare system against black, brown, and queer

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<v Speaker 1>folks and those that live at the intersections. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>of younger people, Generation Z and what have you, what

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<v Speaker 1>does the education for that community look like versus older generations.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the younger generations have an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>get into healthcare. That is what I would call culturally affirming, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when I was a young man, the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of me having an LGBTQ plus medical professional that I

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<v Speaker 2>went to for council that understood the differences in my

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle versus a heterosexual counterpart, for example, that really didn't exist. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm not saying that that's prevalent everywhere today,

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<v Speaker 2>But what I'm saying is we've come lie years ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of where we were. And so for me, particularly at

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<v Speaker 2>APLA Health, you know, ten years ago, we weren't a

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare organization, but with the introduction of Obamacare, we opened

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<v Speaker 2>up our first what's called a federally qualified health center,

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact, on October third, we're celebrating our ten

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<v Speaker 2>year anniversary of that first facility, and now later this fall,

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<v Speaker 2>we're opening up our eighth healthcare facility here in Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles County. So to go from zero to nineteen thousand

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<v Speaker 2>patients over the course of ten years, and the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of those patients are members of the LGBTQ plus community,

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<v Speaker 2>it just really demonstrates how far we've come in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of reaching this audience and trying to address their overall

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<v Speaker 2>health issues, HIV being obviously a major component of that,

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<v Speaker 2>but not certainly not all of that, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of talking about health, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so true because I can I can remember

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<v Speaker 1>being very young, being on you know, for instance, being

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<v Speaker 1>on my college campus and needing to go to see

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<v Speaker 1>a medical professional, you know, and they're checking off all

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<v Speaker 1>of the list of questions that they ask and being

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<v Speaker 1>at that time it was you know, late nineties, early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, like being fearful of saying that I was queer,

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<v Speaker 1>right being you know, not wanting to be judged, not

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to you know, like I have always moved in

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<v Speaker 1>a way to brace myself for that moment when you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to kind of prepare for the discrimination that

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<v Speaker 1>you could face and like what would you say and

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<v Speaker 1>how will you respond? But thinking that it is extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>important to provide young people with the skills, with the

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<v Speaker 1>information that they need so that if they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that is not affirming that they know how to respond,

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<v Speaker 1>that they can go in feeling competent and like resolute

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<v Speaker 1>in the care that they need.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, And you know you still even see it today.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, certain people will go to mainstream institutions for

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<v Speaker 2>their medical care, but when it comes to their sexual

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<v Speaker 2>health care, they're still doing those at LGBTQ plus organizations.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've really kind of siloed their healthcare in areas

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<v Speaker 2>that are you know, reasonable for them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what does it mean for you all? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean and you know, and congratulations on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>ten years and the amount of patients that you have

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<v Speaker 1>been able to see during that time. What does it mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're talking to and can connecting with

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<v Speaker 1>these folks to have this kind of facility. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>said you're moving into I think your eight through your

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<v Speaker 1>ninth that you're opening. What does it mean for folks

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<v Speaker 1>to have this kind of access? And you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the midst of an election season and cycle

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<v Speaker 1>where things could drastically change for the worse, how does

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<v Speaker 1>your organization brace itself for the navigating what could be

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<v Speaker 1>potentially a really precarious and dangerous political landscape.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I ironically, you know, this conversation is about AIDS,

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<v Speaker 2>WALK and HIV and AIDS really created a political movement

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<v Speaker 2>for the LGBTQ plus community, and we see the through

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<v Speaker 2>lines through that from health equity, marriage equality, to what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening right now in the political system. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that this is anything new for the

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQ plus community. I think what's new, particularly to some

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<v Speaker 2>of the younger people, is that just because necessarily we

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<v Speaker 2>advance our cause doesn't necessarily mean that there are people

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<v Speaker 2>working in opposition to that, and certain advances that we

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<v Speaker 2>have may be taken away. So I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>meta point is that you always have to remain politically active.

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<v Speaker 2>You always have to remain alert, you know. As a

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<v Speaker 2>part of my responsibilities for the organization, I oversee our

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<v Speaker 2>government affairs team, and we work at a local, state

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<v Speaker 2>and national level in order to affect positive governmental outcomes

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<v Speaker 2>and policies for people living with HIV as well as

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQ plus people overall. You know, in the state of California,

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<v Speaker 2>as an example, you pay no out of pocket expenses

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<v Speaker 2>for PREP, which is the prophylactic use of HIV medication

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent you from getting HIV. That just didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Many People Organization and other allied organizations put the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>to bear on the state of California in order to

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<v Speaker 2>ensure that that's a real thing. So Obamacare made PREP

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a part of the overall insurance package, but

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't prevent insurance companies from asking for copays, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of those copays were quite expensive, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So even though you weren't paying the full

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<v Speaker 2>freight of the medication, you were still paying out of pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>And now in the state of California, essentially you do

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<v Speaker 2>not pay out of pocket for PREP. So these are

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<v Speaker 2>examples of you know, that's just one example of the

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<v Speaker 2>work that we're consistently doing in order to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that people have access to these life saving medical therapies

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<v Speaker 2>in order to prevent people from becoming HIV and similarly

0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.800
<v Speaker 2>people who are HIV positive, preventing them from being able

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<v Speaker 2>to pass along the virus to others and remaining undetected.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think needs to be done in terms

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the larger you know, society, really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the needs of the community and what we should

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<v Speaker 1>be asking for from those that represent us in government.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that there's a lot of intersectionality here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this just starts to stop for the

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQ plus community. I think it's you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the black community has a lot of things to contribute

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<v Speaker 2>to this conversation, and I think it's important if we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about HIV. I think everyone knows this is not

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<v Speaker 2>exclusively a gay disease, although it predominantly affects gay men,

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<v Speaker 2>But there's other people in this conversation. There's trans folks

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<v Speaker 2>that need to be really at the forefront of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Black women need to be at the forefront of this conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in the eastern seaboards and cities and Red States.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think there's a broader conversation it needs to

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<v Speaker 2>takes place. I think there's an intersectional conversation that needs

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<v Speaker 2>to take place, And I think it fundamentally comes down

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<v Speaker 2>to what do we want to see as a society.

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<v Speaker 2>If one person is sick, are we all sick, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Or are we just saying that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good and You've got to fend for yourself. And unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>our healthcare system kind of veers towards the latter, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all need to work together to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how we create a system that's more equitable for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree wholeheartedly. I think that that is incredibly important

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<v Speaker 1>for us not to operate in silos. Like different communities

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<v Speaker 1>have different needs and have been marginalized in different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, it is really

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<v Speaker 1>looking at having a robust and equitable healthcare system that

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<v Speaker 1>tends to all of our needs. With the time that

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<v Speaker 1>we have left, please tell us a bit more about

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<v Speaker 1>the AIDS walk, what people can expect, how they can

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<v Speaker 1>connect and get involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely so. As you said earlier, AIDS walk will

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<v Speaker 2>be happening on Sunday, October thirteen here in Los Angeles

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.520
<v Speaker 2>at West Hollywood Park starting at ten am. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>AIDS Walk at Los Angeles is the first AIDS Walk

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.720
<v Speaker 2>in the world, So there was no Aid's Walk before

0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 2>the first one occurred in Los Angeles. The original one

0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 2>took place on the Paramount Lot and it helped raise

0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 2>money to just again do anything that we could to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what was going on in our community. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really hard for people to understand that when this virus

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<v Speaker 2>first became publicly known, there just really was not a

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of information out there, and that spanned for years,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there was a tremendous amount of fear, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a tremendous amount of unknowns, and a lot of

0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:51.640
<v Speaker 2>people were dying. So, you know, those first couple of

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:56.439
<v Speaker 2>decades of this walk were really sad affairs, but also

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<v Speaker 2>the first instances of the community coming together, fundraising amongst

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves and really trying to create greater awareness. Now, forty

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<v Speaker 2>years later, this event still exists. HIV still exists, but

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<v Speaker 2>the difference is now is that we have a medical

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<v Speaker 2>means to end this disease right now. So if everyone

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 2>who was not HIV positive protected themselves using some of

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 2>these new advancements and tools that we have. And if

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<v Speaker 2>everyone who was HIV positive got to an undetectable level

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<v Speaker 2>using the medications that we have available, this virus really

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<v Speaker 2>would have nowhere to go. So when we come together

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.880
<v Speaker 2>for AIDS WALK today, we come together to remember those

0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:43.280
<v Speaker 2>that we've lost. I mean, the gay community lost an

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<v Speaker 2>entire generation, right, I mean, and I don't think people

0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.560
<v Speaker 2>have really processed that. But you know, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at gay men of a certain age, there is a

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<v Speaker 2>huge hole there that we cannot get back. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think for us celebrating forty years of progress is hey,

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<v Speaker 2>look things have changed dramatically, but we still have more

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<v Speaker 2>to go. We still have more to go to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how do we resolve these equity situations in which

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<v Speaker 2>black and gay Latino men are still the majority of

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 2>people contracting this virus today, whereas for people who have insurance,

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.160
<v Speaker 2>those numbers have gone down dramatically. So this is something

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:30.400
<v Speaker 2>that we can solve, but it takes a greater community,

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:35.880
<v Speaker 2>greater awareness, responsibility throughout the healthcare profession. It just takes

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of actors in order to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of close the loop on all of this

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<v Speaker 2>and in this disease in our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>Craig, I can't thank you enough for the work that

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<v Speaker 1>you are doing with APLA Health and the work that

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<v Speaker 1>APLA Health has done in the community for the community

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<v Speaker 1>for decades. Really appreciate you coming on to OOKF and

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<v Speaker 1>one to help us from member give us context and

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<v Speaker 1>education about how far we've come, but also provide us

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<v Speaker 1>with an understanding of what needs to be done in

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<v Speaker 1>the future to eradicate the disease moving forward. Really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you and congratulations on the amazing anniversaries.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you guys for having me. And if anyone

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 2>wants to learn a little bit more about this, please

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<v Speaker 2>check out our documentary and title Commitment to Life, which

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.199
<v Speaker 2>is streaming on Peacock and it really gives you a

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 2>nice concise understanding of where we were and where we

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<v Speaker 2>are today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you for that. Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today, Dear friends on wokef

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<v Speaker 1>as always power to the people and to all the people. Power,

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<v Speaker 1>get woke and stay woke as fuck.