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Speaker 1: of the program. In the extravaganza, so many different issues

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Speaker 1: all of this? Jay Secular, he's the chief counsel for

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Speaker 1: all is predicated the whole Special Council issue on the

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Speaker 1: idea of whether the Donald Trump and his campaign were

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Speaker 1: colluding with Russia as it relates to leaking information to

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Speaker 1: wiki leaks on the d NC emails. J Secular American

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Speaker 1: Center for Law and Justice, the Chief counsel, and Greg

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Speaker 1: Jarrett Fox News legal analysts. Do I about have this right? J?

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Speaker 1: And and if we have no collusion after ten months

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Speaker 1: and all we have black helicopter theories, why is Mueller

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Speaker 1: even there. I don't even think it's fair to black

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Speaker 1: helicopter theories to say that there's there there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a you know, this was a and I'm

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Speaker 1: saying this because Sean, I think that the media is

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Speaker 1: losing sight of what this was supposed to be people

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Speaker 1: are thinking that the investigation into Russian inclusion is starting

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Speaker 1: with the appointment of the special counsel. We know that's

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Speaker 1: not the case. That there's been investigations into this alleged

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Speaker 1: Russian collusion matter going on for many months. And you

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Speaker 1: played and I'm glad you did all of those people

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Speaker 1: right and left center as well that have said we've

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Speaker 1: seen no evidence, We've seen no evidence. There is no evidence. Clapper,

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Speaker 1: I saw no evidence. Sally Yates, a Democrat who was

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Speaker 1: the acting Attorney general, saw no evidence. James, call me

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Speaker 1: no evidence. So what are we what's going on here?

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Speaker 1: You asked yourself the deeper question, and what I think

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Speaker 1: this is in large part, I mean, of course you've

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Speaker 1: got a special counsel now, so it's got You've gotta

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Speaker 1: deal with that legal issue, and I'm dealing with that

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Speaker 1: as one of the lawyers. But what is really the

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Speaker 1: motivating factor for the frenzy I will call it, or

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Speaker 1: the attempt at frenzy? And you know what that is? Politics,

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Speaker 1: media filibuster of moving legislation forward, legislation that you've talked

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Speaker 1: about on this broadcast, Tax reform, Obamacare repeal. That's it, now,

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Speaker 1: he did the Paris uh treaty. He did that, he

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Speaker 1: has Supreme Court justice confirmed, He's issued a series of

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Speaker 1: executive orders, not just on the immigration asylument. She's which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, or up before the Supreme Court right now,

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Speaker 1: briefs were doing that today. But but even further so,

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Speaker 1: I think that we have to be really cognitive condescence

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Speaker 1: of what is going on here, and that is this

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Speaker 1: is a media philibuster. Greg I agree with Jay, but

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Speaker 1: I even would take it a step further. I think

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Speaker 1: a the effort has been well and they had to

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Speaker 1: get over the shock of November eight too. Since that

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Speaker 1: day they've even talked about impeachment. Certainly, there has been

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Speaker 1: a well orchestrated group of enemies out there to delegitimize

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Speaker 1: the president, undermine a duly elected president, and in a

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Speaker 1: in a worst case scenario, they render him somewhat impotent

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Speaker 1: and advancing his agenda. In a great case scenario, if

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Speaker 1: you're a radical leftist or you're in the media that

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Speaker 1: colluded with Hillary, you know, you get him thrown out

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Speaker 1: of office. And that's a dream come true for these people. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the media has engaged in a wholesale mugging

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Speaker 1: of of the president. Um. Anyway, that should be your

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Speaker 1: next column, the wholesale the media wholesale mugging of a president. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're recklessly throwing around without any basis for

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Speaker 1: allegations of collusion. The best I can tell, the only

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Speaker 1: collusion seems to be between Muller and Comey. Um. And

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Speaker 1: you know, the opportunity of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which

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Speaker 1: by the way, is an oxymorn, to pose questions about

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Speaker 1: you know, all these years we worked together. I had

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Speaker 1: no idea what a wise ass you are, just like me.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. I love it. Well, you know, they could

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Speaker 1: have asked, any senator could have asked, when did you

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Speaker 1: meet with Mr Muller? How often did you meet before

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Speaker 1: your testimony? Did you prepare what it is you were

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Speaker 1: going to say? Um? He did admit that they did meet, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he But that's it. No follow up questions, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, after all, these two are longtime friends and colleagues. Um.

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Speaker 1: And you know the cases that they worked together are

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Speaker 1: are quite notable. I mean, they were famously involved in

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Speaker 1: the case on the anthrax attacks. And and so badly

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Speaker 1: bungled uh that American taxpayers had to pay roughly five

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Speaker 1: million dollars to a guy that they had fingered who

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Speaker 1: was completely innocent. You know, well, I don't think we

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Speaker 1: can view this and it was a comment I made

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Speaker 1: as it relates to Hillary Clinton. Now, he said there

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Speaker 1: was no intent for Hillary Clinton when she put the

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Speaker 1: with top secret classified Special Access Program information on it

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Speaker 1: that we're certain that at least five intelligence agencies enemy

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Speaker 1: intelligence agencies got a hold of. But remember, the intent

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Speaker 1: documents and is of itself mishandling is a is a crime.

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Speaker 1: The destruction of it as a crime. We know she

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Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing with that whole issue of

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Speaker 1: gross negligence. They seem to have a unbelievable capacity to

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Speaker 1: change the statutes, to change the law to suit the facts.

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Speaker 1: Rather than the facts impacting the law, they just change

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Speaker 1: the statue. They leave sections out as if they don't exist.

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Speaker 1: And that whole stunt, and you realize that's where all

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Speaker 1: of this really started, was the whole James Cooney interjecting

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Speaker 1: himself into the last presidential election. I mean, Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: still blames let's not forget this that Secretary Clinton still

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Speaker 1: blames James Comey for her loss in the election. She

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Speaker 1: still believes that, or she's certainly still saying that exactly. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the fact is, and I think again, you go

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Speaker 1: back to this. Now we've created this kind of WorldWind

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Speaker 1: approach to what's going on here, and you got all

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Speaker 1: of the media, of course, you know, focusing on this.

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Speaker 1: And but I was, I was a little bit impressed.

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Speaker 1: I'm rarely not impressed, but I was impressed yesterday when

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Speaker 1: George Stephanopolus was very fair with me, and I thought

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Speaker 1: the panel's discussions afterwards were very good, he said. The

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Speaker 1: big takeaway what he's saying is opening that James called

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Speaker 1: me leaked the information. And I want everybody again to

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Speaker 1: think about what he said at the beginning. James called

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Speaker 1: me the then director. He did this while he was

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Speaker 1: the director of the FBI. He took those notes while

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Speaker 1: he was the direct is a crime in my view us.

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Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, I want to ask

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Speaker 1: Greg on the issue of Lauretta Lynch because there's another

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Speaker 1: issue here, you know, please don't call it an investigation,

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Speaker 1: just call it a matter. And he listened. And then

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Speaker 1: of course the tarmac meeting with with Bill Clinton. As

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Speaker 1: we continue, final moments now coming up with Jay Sekulo

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Speaker 1: and Greg Jarrett, and we'll get to your calls hand

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Speaker 1: Coulter at the top of the hour. Right as we

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Speaker 1: continue with Jay Seculo, Chief Council American Center for Law Injustice.

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Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett, my colleague and friend and Fox News legal

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Speaker 1: analysts are with me. I want to go Greg to

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Speaker 1: you in the issue of Lauretta Lynch. How did she

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Speaker 1: possibly get away with meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac,

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Speaker 1: you know, for what forty minutes talking about their grandkids

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Speaker 1: Supposedly right before she made her decision if she did

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Speaker 1: you know going to call me or we need to

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Speaker 1: get our words on the same page. This is not

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Speaker 1: an investigation. This is a matter, which is exactly what

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Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton spin machine wanted it to be called,

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Speaker 1: when in fact it was an investigation. And frankly, she

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Speaker 1: should have been indicted. Well. And it's smacks of collusion

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Speaker 1: her campaign and the meeting with Hillary Clinton's husband. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you put all that together, and what does it look like.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Lauratta Lynch might have obstructed justice. He

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Speaker 1: might have been the one who was interfering with the

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Speaker 1: do administration of Justice, the investigation that was undertaken by

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Speaker 1: Comey into Clinton's mishandling of classified emails. If she was

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Speaker 1: trying to influence or impede Comey's investigation in some way

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Speaker 1: by insisting that he slanted from criminal investigation of matters, well,

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Speaker 1: that could arguably the greater obstruction of justice in any

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Speaker 1: of the silly stuff we're talking about. Hoping and wishing

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Speaker 1: that Flynn is cleared, you know, Sean kay had one

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Speaker 1: while the investigation by the Department Justice was going on

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Speaker 1: and said, there's not even a smidgen of corruption. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the point. Mean, come on, now, you

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Speaker 1: know obstruction of justice. I mean, that's all. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you that that in the middle of investigation, the

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Speaker 1: President says not a smidge and he already had the

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Speaker 1: one had the evidence and then finished investigating. So this

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Speaker 1: is That's why I'm saying this is a manure factured

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Speaker 1: It's a manufactured, non existent probe. It's manufactured in the

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Speaker 1: sense that now go away. I mean, are we gonna

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Speaker 1: be stuck with Mueller now and black helicopter theories on

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Speaker 1: TV for another two years like or three years? Like

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Speaker 1: Patrick Fitzgerald. My my, my hope and my work is

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Speaker 1: that it not happened uh that long, and that this

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Speaker 1: a vacuum. Here, This is the reality of every day.

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Speaker 1: And but I think you got looked. I never like

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Speaker 1: special counsels generally. I don't like them specifically. And I

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Speaker 1: when I say, is the whole way that that's approached

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Speaker 1: and then the add on and atters related there to

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Speaker 1: make these things go along, I am. You know there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be lawyers and lawyers working to address each and

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Speaker 1: every allegation that may or may not come up. That's

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Speaker 1: what lawyers do. But generally these things take time. I

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Speaker 1: think again, the president's got to get back to when

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Speaker 1: he is and not getting back to the presidents. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everybody forgets it was just white. A couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: he was in Saudi Arabia and gave a speech in

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Speaker 1: front of fifty Muslim majority Muslim country leaders and said

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Speaker 1: drive them out, drive them out. I mean, this was

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Speaker 1: major statements. Then goes to to Israel and says, if

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get got, I was gonna be yep, I got,

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Speaker 1: I got a role. You guys were great for the hour,

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Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett Fox and j Seculo American Center for Law

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Speaker 1: and Justice, and you two and Sarah Carter tonight on Hannity,

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Speaker 1: the more powerful monologues we put together tenn Eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both. When we come back to one and

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Speaker 1: only end, Coulter right was round up Information Overload hour

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Speaker 1: here on the Sean Hannity. So we're gonna have some

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Speaker 1: fun for fathers at the bottom of the hour as

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Speaker 1: I check in with my buddy John McLemore. He's the

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Speaker 1: master Bille guy. He's so cool, so awesome, and you know,

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Speaker 1: bottom of this half hour. What has been a great,

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Speaker 1: great week for the president, even though the left wing

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Speaker 1: media hasn't caught up yet. They're still living in their

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Speaker 1: their black helicopter. They haven't put them back in the

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Speaker 1: in the hangar yet. The black helicopter theories and Tinfoil

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Speaker 1: had conspiracy theories. You know, one case we have been

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Speaker 1: following very very closely. Uh Congressman Brian Babina, Texas and

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Speaker 1: Navy Vet New York Times best selling author Dog Company,

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Speaker 1: which tells the story of Captain Roger Hill, who was

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Speaker 1: kicked out of the Army for interrogating known Taliban spies

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Speaker 1: within his company, and they joined us today to talk

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Speaker 1: about Congressman Baens letter to the President last week in

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Speaker 1: which he called upon the Commander in Chief to conduct

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Speaker 1: a full review of each case involving any US server

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Speaker 1: service member who is currently imprisoned in US prisons for

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Speaker 1: certain actions they took on behalf of their country, risking

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Speaker 1: their lives during combat in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he said, under the Obama administration, we saw

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Speaker 1: the continued release of violent terrorists from the US custody

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Speaker 1: at Gitmo, many of them returning to the battlefield against

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Speaker 1: US forces. Meanwhile, these young American men who answered the

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Speaker 1: call to duty put their lives on the line for

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Speaker 1: our freedoms, continue to language in prison. I respectfully asked

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Speaker 1: that your administration fully review each case involving any American

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Speaker 1: service member who is currently imprisoned for actions taken on

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Speaker 1: the battlefield in Iraq and Afghanistan. Such a review is

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Speaker 1: an appropriate action given their previous service and their sacrifice

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Speaker 1: and defense of the United States. I think it's very

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Speaker 1: important to note in all of this that according to

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Speaker 1: United American patriots, in all of World War two and

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Speaker 1: Korea and Vietnam, military judges convicted only seven soldiers and

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Speaker 1: marines of crimes crimes during combat or a war crime.

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Speaker 1: Since the War on Terror began, and PC has now

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Speaker 1: entered the world of war, and now we have rules

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Speaker 1: of engagement that put our troops in jeopardy. Well, now

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Speaker 1: more than two hundred service members have been convicted of

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Speaker 1: these offenses. Thousands more have received non judicial punishment. You

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Speaker 1: can't fight a war and put handcuffs on the men

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Speaker 1: and women that you're asking to die. Anyway, these three

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Speaker 1: people join us now. Congressman Babin, Lieutenant Colonel John Mayer,

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Speaker 1: and also Lynn Vincent, thank you all for being with us. Well.

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Speaker 1: I applaud your effort here. You know, one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons I'd like to think that maybe the constant of

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Speaker 1: the President's time being distracted with black helicopter theories and

678
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Speaker 1: that he has to deal with tinfoil hat can spiracies

679
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Speaker 1: in Russia, Russia, Russia, and I know that this is

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Speaker 1: something the President cares deeply about because I talked to

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Speaker 1: him about it, and I've interviewed him about it. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping you've got a good reaction. Congressman. I'm very

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Speaker 1: great to be with Sean again is always I'm really

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Speaker 1: confident that that our president is going to take a

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Speaker 1: look at this. I really do he is. He is

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Speaker 1: a huge supporter of our military and uh, you know,

687
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Speaker 1: to see or what our men they call him the

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Speaker 1: uh you know, the leaven Worth ten. But there's what

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Speaker 1: we really don't even know how many folks are in there,

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Speaker 1: and maybe a little less than ten, maybe greater than ten.

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Speaker 1: But these are these are individuals and the heat of

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Speaker 1: combat who supposedly both some rule. I'm not excusing them

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Speaker 1: because I don't know all the details, but I think

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Speaker 1: it bears the fairness of the presidential uh decision to

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Speaker 1: review all these these cases once again, because my goodness,

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Speaker 1: is you so eloquent. They said a second ago, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we we have seen Guantanamo terrorists released from prison. They've

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Speaker 1: just about empty. Obama's just about empty the prisons out.

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of weeks ago, they arrested an individual

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Speaker 1: that had been released from Guantanamo by President Obama in

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Speaker 1: France who had been recruiting for ISIS and may have

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Speaker 1: been involved in some of the horrible atrocities that have

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Speaker 1: taken place there. We've seen We've seen the President pardoned

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Speaker 1: Bradley Manning, you know, who released seven hundred thousand classified documents,

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Speaker 1: a man who was a trader, uh, And he pardoned

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Speaker 1: twelve hundred uh drug dealers and drug users at the

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Speaker 1: end of its last few weeks of his administration. So,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, we need to take a look at our soldiers, sailors, airmen,

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Speaker 1: and marines who are languishing in and levin work for

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Speaker 1: trying to do their jobs, you know. And and Littendant

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Speaker 1: Colonel John Mayer in the case of Lornz, he had

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Speaker 1: a he had a It's very easy, I guess for

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Speaker 1: all these you know, sideline warriors in the comfort of

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Speaker 1: their studios or you know, wherever they happen to be,

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Speaker 1: to be commenting and judging. A guy that is in

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Speaker 1: charge of a platoon, he's got to make a split

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Speaker 1: second decision. Are these two guys coming at us on

718
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Speaker 1: a motorcycle? Are they here to kill us? Which is

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Speaker 1: the the motus operandi of other I e ED killers

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan at the time or are they okay? And

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Speaker 1: he has to make a split second decision, and it's

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Speaker 1: a life and death decision. And then it turns out

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Speaker 1: that sculptory evidence now has has come up and Clint Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: as I understand it, hasn't even gotten a chance to

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Speaker 1: plead his case again. And I think that the Congressman

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Speaker 1: makes a very good point with this letter to the president.

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Speaker 1: And we all know that the President ran on part

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Speaker 1: of his platform was to speed to reverse the failed

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Speaker 1: policies of the previous administration to include the politically correct

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Speaker 1: rules of engagement. Flint Lawrence's case is the perfect case

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Speaker 1: to do that. The evidence is to a d NA

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Speaker 1: certainty in Congressman, by the way, Clint la Rance and

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Speaker 1: his family are from Texas. Sent with that, colonel, thank

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Speaker 1: you for what you're doing. Yes, there the DNA evidence

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Speaker 1: in Clint's cases. It was really located on bomb parts

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Speaker 1: and bombwaars, which actually proved that these men that he

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Speaker 1: ordered fire on were indeed the Taliban and insurgent fighters

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Speaker 1: are at a very minimum I E. ED makers. So

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Speaker 1: the President has a perfect opportunity to to use Clint's

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Speaker 1: taste for purposes of fulfilling one of his campaign promises.

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Speaker 1: And then secondly, there's precedent there for the congressman's idea.

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Speaker 1: If we look to a President Ford's administration after the

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Speaker 1: Vietnam War, one of the main issues that President Ford

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Speaker 1: wanted to do was put the war in the rearview mirror,

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Speaker 1: get it behind us, and put the country back on

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Speaker 1: being America again. Well, what he did was he constituted

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Speaker 1: and appointed a bike heart as in civic, Military, business

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Speaker 1: Religious commission to review any in all cases to include

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Speaker 1: courts marshal as well as non judicial punishments and administrative

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Speaker 1: separations to see if clemency should be granted, if records

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Speaker 1: should be updated, and thereby position those fellows, guys and

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Speaker 1: gals who were convicted or separated under less than honorable

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Speaker 1: conditions so they would be best best position for having

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Speaker 1: served with them moving on with their lives. So I

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Speaker 1: think it's a fine idea, you know, And let's bring

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Speaker 1: you into this, Lynn Vincent. I mean, you wrote about

757
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Speaker 1: the Becavin New York Times bestselling book Dog Company, the

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Speaker 1: story of Captain Rodgers kicked out of the Army. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't even believe I'm saying these words for interrogating

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Speaker 1: known Taliban spies within his company. It's insane to me.

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Speaker 1: It's it's hard to believe, isn't it, Sean, And it's

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to be on. One of the things that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to mention with respect to what John and

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Speaker 1: the congressmen were saying, is that we have all of

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Speaker 1: these men serving time in prison for doing their jobs, essentially,

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Speaker 1: but what is often overlooked is the collateral damage that

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Speaker 1: happens to the junior soldiers and marines who were also

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Speaker 1: involved in those cases. Um, guys that were doing a

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Speaker 1: great job, had joined the military to serve their country

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Speaker 1: and got caught up in this machine and found themselves

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Speaker 1: kicked out on the street. So you mentioned at the

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Speaker 1: top of this segment that you know, you have all

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Speaker 1: these guys that have been prosecuted for war crimes, but

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Speaker 1: you also have those young soldiers and marines that are

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Speaker 1: going sort of invisibly under the radar with not non

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Speaker 1: judicial punishment, being kicked out of the military and losing

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Speaker 1: their veterans benefits. So I think that that's a crime. Um. Also,

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Speaker 1: I have a son serving in a war zone right now.

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Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes he stands behind the fifty caliber

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Speaker 1: machine gun and I'm a little bit worried about what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen if he actually shoots at the enemy.

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Speaker 1: It's why could Why shouldn't you be worried by all

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Speaker 1: owned occasions? You should be worried, and I don't. I

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Speaker 1: got to imagine things will change. But what don't we

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Speaker 1: do about all the people that are in jails? And

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Speaker 1: I think Congressman Batman, as you pointed out, we've let

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Speaker 1: all these idiots out a GYPM, I mean I and

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Speaker 1: a lot of them, I think I have seen estimates

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Speaker 1: up to thirty to forty to percent or higher have

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Speaker 1: gone right back to the battlefield and not reformed. They're

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Speaker 1: not changed. And by the way we built them, however,

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Speaker 1: many million dollars soccer field and give them all their

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Speaker 1: dietary guidelines and give them the korans and and they're

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Speaker 1: treated with kid gloves and nobody gets interrogated anymore, which

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Speaker 1: could save American lives. I mean, we're not fighting wars anymore,

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Speaker 1: which is why I am. I am beyond reluctant and

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Speaker 1: resistance resistant. If we don't have the political world to fight,

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Speaker 1: don't even start it. Just stay home, sank at us

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind really appreciate what you said, uh

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Speaker 1: about you having a son there, because I as a

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Speaker 1: better myself. I also had a son at three tours

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Speaker 1: to Iraq as a Navy seal, and he was a

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Speaker 1: pert commander on one of those, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll always like to press him and find out how

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Speaker 1: how things were out of curiosity. And he said, you know, Dad,

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Speaker 1: A lot of times I had to spend all just many,

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Speaker 1: many much of my time trying to keep my guys

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Speaker 1: from going to prison for doing their jobs. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: you'll you'll you'll see someone who's languishing and eleven work

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Speaker 1: and may have just uh you know, he he made

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Speaker 1: he made a split second decision in combat. He may

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Speaker 1: have just seen a comrade shot. He may have seen

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Speaker 1: a comrade shot or bown up by someone who was

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Speaker 1: pretending to surrender. Uh. And U like like uh the

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Speaker 1: pent Laurant's uh case, a vehicle coming towards you and

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Speaker 1: you have to make a decision or you're gonna wind

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Speaker 1: up dead or maimed. And a lot of your comrade

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Speaker 1: the same way. And I think it's it's very unfair,

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Speaker 1: uh to have a have a standard you know of

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Speaker 1: an armchair quarterback, if you will, someone who was not

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Speaker 1: there making those uh you know those uh convictions and

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Speaker 1: in those cases against these these young you know, Um,

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Speaker 1: that really is what it is, isn't it. It's armchair quarterbacking,

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Speaker 1: isn't a country. Have you gotten any feedback at all

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Speaker 1: from the administration anything at all? So far? I have not.

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Speaker 1: I have not, But I can tell you, uh that

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Speaker 1: from conversations that I have personally had with with our

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Speaker 1: president and our Vice president, uh that they are very

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Speaker 1: very uh caring and absolutely know how important our our

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Speaker 1: military is, and they care about our troops. Uh. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I know that just the other day of one of

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Speaker 1: my sons, uh machine gun Earth was the first Navy

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Speaker 1: seal kill in Iraq, and his mother, a gold star mother,

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Speaker 1: was supposed to spend minutes with the President Trump. I

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Speaker 1: understand that he stayed with him for two hours. So, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is a man who cares about our troops, and

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Speaker 1: I think I'm confident that he'll take a real, real

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Speaker 1: hard look at these cases. Unbelievable. All right, stay right there,

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Speaker 1: we'll take a break. We'll come back. Brian Baban, John Mayer,

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Speaker 1: and Lynn Vince here with us site sized version of

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Speaker 1: All right, as we continue, and by the way, at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the our Father's Day coming up, my

845
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Speaker 1: buddy John McLemore is with us. Master Bill kis CEO brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Put you in a good mood on a Friday. It's

848
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Speaker 1: been a good week for the President. Not a good

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Speaker 1: week though for American men and women that served in

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Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan that have are rotting, imprisoned for the

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Speaker 1: most ridiculous reasons. And thank god. Congressman Brian Babin of

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Speaker 1: Texas has sent the president letters saying can you please

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Speaker 1: review these cases? You know, looking at World War two, Korea,

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Speaker 1: Vietnam or military judges convicted only seven soldiers of crimes

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Speaker 1: during combat or a war crime. Since the War on Terror,

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Speaker 1: two service members convicted, thousands others getting non judicial punishments.

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Speaker 1: What are the non judici sho punishments? Does anybody know? Yes, John,

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Speaker 1: this is John Maherd. Nonjudicial punishment is basically it's an

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Speaker 1: offense under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but it

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Speaker 1: does not go to court. Instead, it's handled at a

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Speaker 1: dispensed somewhat swiftly, and it's kind of kept in house

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Speaker 1: And what happens is if if a soldier has a

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Speaker 1: non judicial punishment, that document can be placed in his

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Speaker 1: or her performance file, and that is called adverse information

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Speaker 1: or unfavorable information, which can ultimately then serve as the

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Speaker 1: basis for them to be administratively separated, in other words,

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Speaker 1: fired and under an other than honorable conditions discharge or

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Speaker 1: a general discharge. And that means that they take a

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Speaker 1: hit with their veterans benefits, whether it be post eleven

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Speaker 1: g I Bill via loaned healthcare, most kinds of things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what what is going to happen in the case of Clint?

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially the rank reduction in rank, forniture pay,

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Speaker 1: even even brief jail time unbelievable. Is Clint going to

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Speaker 1: get the hearing with the new exculpatory evidence that has emerged. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Sehanny Shurewell, this case is docuted right now before the

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Speaker 1: Army Corps of Criminal Appeals which sits on for Belvoir Virginians,

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Speaker 1: in front of a three judge panel, and those judges

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Speaker 1: are all active due to the the lieutenant colonel or colonel

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Speaker 1: who have been about twenty five years each, so we're

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Speaker 1: looking at seventy five years of collective experience. And the

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Speaker 1: idea there is when hearing is set, there'll be an

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Speaker 1: oral argument before them, presenting the fact that the prosecution had,

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Speaker 1: at all times in its possession, custody and control exculpatory

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Speaker 1: evidence in the form of DNA evidence that the people

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Speaker 1: Clint ordered fire on. We're not innocent civilians that the

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Speaker 1: prosecution claimed, but instead i e. D makers. We know

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Speaker 1: that because of their fingerprints in their d NA meaning

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Speaker 1: their skin from their fingers when they twist the wires

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Speaker 1: and the bomb components have been recovered at grit To

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Speaker 1: ordinates where we either diffuse the bomb or the bomb

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Speaker 1: went off and killed people who wounded people, and we've

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Speaker 1: conducted a sensitive site and exploitation. You go through, take

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Speaker 1: the evidence collected up, dusted for Prince dusted for DNA

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Speaker 1: and enter it into an army wide database such that

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Speaker 1: when you biometrically enrolled people, you need to match it

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Speaker 1: to the DNA there and it's a conclusive match. It's

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Speaker 1: it's one of the most forms of proof that we

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Speaker 1: have in the low besides the confession is DNA evidence.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, guys, thank you all for what you're doing

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Speaker 1: with Clint. Hopefully we'll have some executive action, a great

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Speaker 1: inaction which is wonderful here. I promise you, Brian Baban,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Baban, I'll ask and I promise you, Lieutenant Colonel Mayor,

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Speaker 1: and I promise you Lynn Vincent, that I will ask

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Speaker 1: the President my next interview as soon as that ever happens.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all for being with us. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Eight nine pold one, Shawn is our number. When we

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Speaker 1: come back a little are we gonna lighten things up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's our Friday Florida Georgia Line concert series.

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Speaker 1: John McLemore, my buddy, you want to smoke the best

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Speaker 1: meat in the world. By the way, it was a

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Speaker 1: great father's gift. He's my master. Bill Buddy's coming up next.

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Speaker 1: dot com. Eight years you guys had a plan, you

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Speaker 1: kept saying and promising, you appeal replace Obamacare. And I

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Speaker 1: guess what people want to know is when of these

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Speaker 1: things going to get done. We're exactly on the timeline

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Speaker 1: that we designed for ourselves. Obamacare is coming next, Our

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Speaker 1: bill is coming in March. First it's regulatory reform because

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Speaker 1: we had this window of time to cancel bad Obama regulations.

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Speaker 1: Then we're doing Obamacare. After we're done with Obamacare. Then

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Speaker 1: we're doing our budgets. And our budget is what the

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Speaker 1: second budget, which will be tax reform. So we're doing

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Speaker 1: too b jets in one year, which has never been

933
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Speaker 1: done before. This is faster than it's ever been done before.

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Speaker 1: When I heard repair, my head nearly explode. That's not

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Speaker 1: the plan. The plan is the repeal and replace this law.

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Speaker 1: Like we said, we ran on a plan to repeal

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Speaker 1: and replace it. Tom Price helped write that plan. He

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Speaker 1: is now Donald Trump's Secretary of It is a consensus

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Speaker 1: plan that's now being scored by the CBO. Correct, you're

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Speaker 1: saying to the American people and conservatives that are impatient,

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Speaker 1: including myself, you agree with every item I mentioned, even

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Speaker 1: extreme vetting. Yeah, we passed that there a year ago

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Speaker 1: in the House. I can now agree with building the wall. Yes,

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Speaker 1: are you telling the American people vetting refugees, building the wall,

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Speaker 1: repeal replaced, a tax reform. All of this is going

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Speaker 1: to be done in two Inside the two hundred day

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Speaker 1: window is the regulatory reforms we talked about. It's the

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Speaker 1: repeal and replace Obamacare. It's the budget, it's the rebuilding

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Speaker 1: of our military. It's tax reform. Those are the things

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Speaker 1: that we're working on. Any infrastructure, those are the things

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Speaker 1: we're working on in this two accounts in the equation

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Speaker 1: because that's in their edge. Well, we we see that

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Speaker 1: as part of regulatory reform. But it's two hundred days.

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Speaker 1: That's you think that's dual is our plan. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: if and if there's any slip, and we'll finish it

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Speaker 1: in the fall and get it done before the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. So if I come back in two

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Speaker 1: hundred days, you're gonna you're gonna go, well, I made

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Speaker 1: a promise. We've gotta well because I think this is

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Speaker 1: so here's what I'm saying. We've we've met this out

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Speaker 1: for two hundred days. We have a plan to do that.

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Speaker 1: We're on schedule. But if if anything slips, because it'll

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Speaker 1: be a such Supreme Court justice, yeah, or or a

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Speaker 1: filibuster on a cabinet nominee, that might slip us. But

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Speaker 1: we're making sure that we do all of this in Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the budget, which is such a big issue.

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Speaker 1: The president seven brackets to three corporate rate. I know

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Speaker 1: you prefer twenty because that scores scores. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: to get what we can with the With the number

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Speaker 1: that you support repatriation multinational corporations, that will be huge

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Speaker 1: for that's a lot of money that can come back

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Speaker 1: into the economy, about three trillion dollars. Here's my headline

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Speaker 1: of this interview that you're in pretty much full agreement

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Speaker 1: with with what Donald Trump ran on number two. In

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Speaker 1: two hundred days from the legislative side, you are going

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Speaker 1: to be implementing every aspect of that agenda that we

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Speaker 1: talked about, and just headline we have, and we have

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Speaker 1: cushion in our schedule if if anything slips, because it's

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Speaker 1: really because the Senate issues, we still have time to

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Speaker 1: accommodate all of this stuff in even conditions. I have

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Speaker 1: cushions built in the schedule to make sure this all

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Speaker 1: gets done in twenty seven in case something happens and

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Speaker 1: go sideways on the Senate. I'm pretty sure that will

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Speaker 1: stimulate the economy, get people back to work, and and

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Speaker 1: get the economy movement again, which I think we need

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Speaker 1: what we're hired to do. All right, you see it alright,

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Speaker 1: twenty three now untill the top of the hours, now

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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty two days that Donald Trump has

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Speaker 1: been president. And of course there really wasn't a consensus

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Speaker 1: plan on healthcare, so that made things go a lot

991
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Speaker 1: longer and further than I think anybody expected or wanted.

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Speaker 1: And he said they were going the fastest ever, and

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Speaker 1: they've even built in some cushion time, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think a lot of this is gonna happen. But I

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Speaker 1: will say this, on top of all of these vicious, file, hateful,

996
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Speaker 1: leftist attacks against the president, you know that certainly has

997
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Speaker 1: contributed to an environment where things aren't getting done. But

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Speaker 1: if the Republicans want to hold on to their power,

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Speaker 1: which you know, they wanted this in two and they

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Speaker 1: got the House they wanted it in, they got the Senate,

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Speaker 1: will some of us not all of them? While we

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Speaker 1: wanted Donald Trump to win the presidency And to me,

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Speaker 1: Congress is moving extraordinarily slow. Minch McConnell's gotta finish healthcare.

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Speaker 1: They're talking about a fourth of July vacation then an

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Speaker 1: August vacation. The Freedom Caucus is saying, no, stop going

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Speaker 1: on vacation, Let's do the work of the American people.

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Speaker 1: That thought process is now gaining momentum, I know in

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Speaker 1: the White House, and I think getting the President's you know,

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Speaker 1: if the president wants, if the Republicans want to stay

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Speaker 1: in power, and the President wants to be successful, it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be the noise and the the vile

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Speaker 1: rhetoric that prevents him from being in office. It's uh,

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Speaker 1: what's gonna keep him in office. Is the president keeping

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Speaker 1: his promises, creating jobs, moving US towards energy independence, moving

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Speaker 1: US towards a fift corporate rate, middle class tax cuts,

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Speaker 1: repatriation a trillions multinational corporations. You know, the millions of

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Speaker 1: jobs that energy independence will will create in this country.

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Speaker 1: And then of course lower healthcare costs for families will

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Speaker 1: be the equivalent of a tax cut for them. Larry

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Speaker 1: Cutlow is with us one of the smartest economic eyes

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Speaker 1: I know. He's a host on CNBC, former Reagan administration economist,

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Speaker 1: author of the brand new book JFK and the Reagan Revolution,

1023
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Speaker 1: A Secret History of American Prosperity. It's really not so secret.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of fundamental. And any of us that are

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Speaker 1: supply siders, we know that cutting taxes and regulation leads

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Speaker 1: to a rise in GDP and opportunity and employment and

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Speaker 1: revenues to the government. It works every time. Larry, how

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Speaker 1: are you? Thank you? What's going on? Sir? Well? You know,

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Speaker 1: funniest I'm with Mark Meadows. Uh, Steve Moore and I

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Speaker 1: had lunch with Mark Meadows of the Freedom Caucus, I

1031
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Speaker 1: guess about two weeks ago in Washington, and that's when

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Speaker 1: we talked about no August recess vacation until we get

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Speaker 1: a significant tax cut bill. Okay, none, no recess. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think you can get the whole bill,

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Speaker 1: but I think you can break off the business side, which,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, fifteen percent corporate rate, cash expensing for

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Speaker 1: new equipment repatriation may be put in. Their doubling of

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Speaker 1: the standard deduction. That's a good middle income tax cut.

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Speaker 1: But mostly they can get this done, Sean, And they

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Speaker 1: could attach this, which Steve and I call three easy pieces.

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Speaker 1: They could attach this to the Healthcare Reconciliation bill, for

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Speaker 1: it is legal, it is technically doable, and our point

1043
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Speaker 1: of view is you're not going home until you get

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Speaker 1: this done because this would be the biggest booster to

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Speaker 1: the economy. Well, I agree, and I don't understand this idea.

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Speaker 1: You know. One of the things I talked about on

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Speaker 1: this program a lot with my staff. I don't get

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Speaker 1: all the vacation days that there's less than thirty scheduled

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Speaker 1: congressional work days between now. Remember we're not even halfway

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Speaker 1: through the year and the end of the year. Now,

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, you know, Larry, my work schedule

1052
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Speaker 1: is a lot more intense than that. I don't get

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Speaker 1: to take off, you know, eight at half the year,

1054
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Speaker 1: and and god knows what they're doing. You know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't have time to eat lunch out. Do you

1056
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Speaker 1: ever go and eat lunch anywhere? I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: understand eating lunch outside of my office. I eat lunch

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Speaker 1: at my desk, and usually it's it's Campbell's chicken noodle soup. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm a real elitist, you know. Just looks. Listen to

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Speaker 1: your friends over at MSNBC. They were making fun. No, no,

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Speaker 1: not my friends. I don't deal with that. But um,

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Speaker 1: well you're not gonna get in trouble for saying that.

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Speaker 1: But I admire your courage. That's the way time with you. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's let's see, seven days left in June and twenty

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Speaker 1: one days in July. That's all you got seven so

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Speaker 1: it's twenty eight days. Now. If you've tacked on August, Shawn,

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Speaker 1: you'd have another twenty five days, okay, But if you

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Speaker 1: leave August, they go out of town. Um, you're only

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00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna have forty four calendar days. Legislative calendar days in September, October, November,

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Speaker 1: December where they're supposed to get a budget in debt

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Speaker 1: sailing and so forth. So that just shows you we

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Speaker 1: lose twenty five days unless they postpone the August recess vacation,

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Speaker 1: and I would submit. There's so many Republicans favor these

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Speaker 1: lower business tax rates. Remember it's large and small companies

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00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: that's passed through. It's uh immediate expensing for investment repatriation.

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Speaker 1: Everybody rates with that. The Republican Caucus agrees with that.

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Speaker 1: So stay in August and get it done and stick

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Speaker 1: it on to the health Care reconciliation. It's legal and

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00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: it's technical shot and by the way, it's gonna pay

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Speaker 1: for itself. You're gonna get least three percent economic growth

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Speaker 1: from this large and small business tax cuts. Just do it.

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Speaker 1: Just do it, and then wait until next year to

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Speaker 1: do a grand omnibus tax reform bill, which, be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, is going to take a long time. It's

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Speaker 1: very contentious, and I can deal with that. Are we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get the corporate rates because that's key, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this year we should we are. We gotta

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00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: get repatriation of the trillions of these multinational corporations that

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: parked their money overseas. We should we're gonna get middle

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00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: class tax cuts. By the way, the middle class tax cuts,

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00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest beneficiary of the business tax cut.

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: Of the benefits go to wage journers. Middle class wage journers.

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00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: How's that now, somebody's got to say that. Somebody's gotta

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00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: By the way, nobody understands Larry that half the half

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00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: the people in this country and the labor force don't

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: pay any federal income back nothing zip. Well, okay, that's true,

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00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: but they do pay the payroll tax. I mean, that's

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: very but they don't pay income taxes. But I don't. Look,

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00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: I think you should pay more. That's what I think.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that. All thing is but Trump to

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Speaker 1: make good on his promises, and I think he really

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Speaker 1: wants to. I think he really wants to. I know

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Speaker 1: that Mark Meadows was in with him yesterday and they

1104
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: had a long talk about all this stuff. Three easy pieces,

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Speaker 1: no August recess. Trump liked it a lot. It's in

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Speaker 1: l a. From what I'm told, they can get this done.

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Speaker 1: They can get this done, but they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: work at it. Okay, So they work in August and

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00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: then then you can pass a reconciliation bill with healthcare

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Speaker 1: reform and UH tax cuts. And you agree with me,

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00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: though it's got to be done this year. Yes, And

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00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: how about and and don't the American people need to

1113
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: see two or three miles of the wall. They'll love

1114
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Speaker 1: to see that. I'd absolutely love to see that. Go

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Speaker 1: along with it. By the way, nothing's happening there, or

1116
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: maybe somethings are happening there, But you need growth, you know.

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01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: Right now, the latest numbers show UH production, manufacturing, retail sales,

1118
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: housing starts shown. They're all falling. They're all falling, and

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01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: long term interest rates are falling. That's a sign of

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Speaker 1: allows the economy. And the inflation rate is falling, which

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01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: is not a bad thing, but it's not with the

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01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: set expected. I'm just saying the economy is not getting stronger.

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Speaker 1: It may well be getting weaker. And I'm also saying

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Speaker 1: that by next year, if there's no palpable increase for

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Speaker 1: middle income ways, your owners, and so forth, the Republicans

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01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: may have a hard time in the mid terms. They mean,

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01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: I really have a hard time. So I don't believe

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Speaker 1: that the whole package can be done in the fall.

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Speaker 1: And there's not enough calendar days. If we get to

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01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: do it now, if they get energy independence, the wall built,

1131
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: they got corsets, if if they get healthcare repeal and replace.

1132
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: It's not my bill, but it's better and it's a start. Um.

1133
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: I think they'll be okay in eighteen and you're right.

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Speaker 1: Then improve upon all of these things into the next year. Sure, absolutely,

1135
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Speaker 1: see that's a great point. Ronald Reagan had a phrase

1136
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Speaker 1: when I work for him. I heard him, everybody heard

1137
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: him say this, give me half a loaf now, and

1138
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: I'll get the other half later. What I'm saying is

1139
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: and what Steve Morris saying, and Mark Meadows and other people, Actually,

1140
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: you will get more than half a loaf now by

1141
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: going into these business tax cuts, you know for LLCs

1142
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: passed through his wholly owned proprietorships, etcetera, etcetera. You will

1143
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: see an immediate growth surge. Okay, the money's out there,

1144
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: but the firms large and small do not want to

1145
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: They do not want to make a commitment of five, ten,

1146
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: twenty years until they know what the Congress is going

1147
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: to do. If they see it happen and they see

1148
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: the rates come down, and it's retroactive to January seventeen,

1149
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: which is what they've been talking about. You will see

1150
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: an immediate I'm talking immediate pop in the economy. Stay

1151
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: right there, wages, stay right there. Larry Cutlow is with

1152
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: us right as we can send you. Larry Cutlow is

1153
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: with a CNBC host and author of the book JFK.

1154
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: The Reagan Revolution, A Secret History of American Prosperity. All right?

1155
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: So why am I impatient, angry, frustrated with the slow

1156
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: pace of which Congress is doing their job. You feel

1157
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: the same way I do. You know, it's it's really

1158
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: a drain the swamp thing. I mean, it's like, um,

1159
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: I'd like to see the president be much much tougher,

1160
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: for example, on using reconciliation, which is fifty votes in

1161
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: the Senate for our purposes. Right, the Democrats always play

1162
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: hardball with these rules. Why don't we play hardball with

1163
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: these rules? Sometimes, Speaker Ryan, there's a good guy, and

1164
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: I've known him got twenty five years that he's sort

1165
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: of hog tied by this process stuff. We can change

1166
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: that to our advantage. Why do we have to use

1167
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: the Congressional Budget Office one point eight percent growth estimates

1168
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: for ten years? There's no law that says we have

1169
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: to do that. CBO is part of the swamp. Change it,

1170
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: for heaven's sakes, saying and by the way, they're almost

1171
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: always wrong. Yes, yes, by a lot, not by a little,

1172
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Speaker 1: by by tens of trillions of dollars. They're always wrong.

1173
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Speaker 1: I want to keep using them. I think that's not

1174
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: my accountant. Here's how about this borrow from Reagan? Sean

1175
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: in Reagan spoke to the nation twice from the Oval

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Speaker 1: Office on tax cuts. Couldn't have been clear. In fact,

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Speaker 1: one time we created some some charts for him. He

1178
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: put using a pointer. I think the president's got to

1179
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Speaker 1: make his own case. I don't think he can rely

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Speaker 1: on Congress. He's a great spokesman, he's a great communicator,

1181
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: he's a great salesman. He's got to do it, and

1182
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: the people around him have got to prepare it and

1183
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: lay the ground work and so forth. He can't wait

1184
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: for Ryan, he can't for the leadership they've got. Now,

1185
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: I agree, all right, Larry Cudla. Always love having you,

1186
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: and uh, we appreciate you being with us. Eight nine

1187
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: one of them are actually one of the good people

1188
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: in NBC. And there's not a lot of them. It's

1189
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: like one of the few, Shawn. If you want to

1190
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: be a part of this extravaganza, News round Up, Information Overload,

1191
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the loud, incendiary rhetoric of the left.

1192
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: Katie Hopkins, the gobby one from d C will continue.

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01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: It's a it is a weird tension. I think we're

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01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: the dangerous time for the First Amendment and for the

1195
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: free press in this country. And at the same time

1196
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: we're ugly influential with the guy who wants to kill us.

1197
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: And to our detractors that insist that this march will

1198
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: never add up to anything, thank you you, but this

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01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: is the hallmark of revolution. Yes, I'm ang great, Yes

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot

1201
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: about blowing up the White House. You know, I had

1202
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: a dream the other night about that. I was playing

1203
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: golf with Donald Trump, and I was standing beside him

1204
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: with a club in my hand, and I was, you know,

1205
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: considering my options when I suddenly woke up. You know,

1206
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: it was one of those dreams when you want to

1207
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: just get back to sleep so you can finish it.

1208
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: You know, that was pretty good. I might have to

1209
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: put Mr Burgess on Fox News. I'll put I'll put,

1210
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: I'll put Mr Burgess up against Sean Hannity. I'll tell

1211
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: him up. I need you to go out and talk

1212
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want

1213
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: you to talk to him, whether they're independent or whether

1214
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: they are Republican. I want you to argue with him

1215
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: and get in their faces. Press always ask me, don't

1216
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: I wish I were debating him. No, I wish you

1217
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: were in high school. I could take him behind the gym.

1218
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: That's what I wish. What we've got to do. His

1219
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: fight in congrese, fight in the courts, fight in the streets,

1220
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: fight online, fight at the ballot box. And now there's

1221
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: the moment him to be able to do this. This

1222
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: is a death panel bill because people will die. This

1223
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: is deadly. This is deadly. You can't in your president

1224
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: is a discernible, lying man. Ordinary people who simply saw

1225
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: what needed to be done and came together and supported

1226
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: those ideals. Who have made the difference. They've marched, they've bled, Yes,

1227
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Speaker 1: some of them have died. This is hard. Every good

1228
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: thing is we have done this before, we can do

1229
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: this again. I don't respect this president. I don't trust

1230
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: this president. He's not working in the best sence of

1231
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: the American people. His motives and his actions are contemptible.

1232
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Speaker 1: And I will fight every day until he is impeached

1233
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: and peach forty five and Peach forty five. As far

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01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, that Tea Party can go straight to hell.

1235
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: In fact, the only thing your mouth that's good for

1236
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: it's being Vladimir Putin's polster. How long there's going to

1237
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: be our saving grace? You know, when he's about the

1238
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: nuke Finland or something, she's gonna walk into the bedroom

1239
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: and you know, Daddy, Daddy, don't daddy. I mean, he's

1240
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: so blatantly stupid. He's a punk, he's a dog, he's

1241
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: a pig, he's a con, a bullet artist, mutt who

1242
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's talking about, doesn't do his homework,

1243
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: doesn't care, thinks he's gaming society, doesn't pay his taxes.

1244
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: He's an idiot. Colin Powell said it best. He's a

1245
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: national disaster. He's an embarrassment to this country. It makes

1246
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: me so angry that this country has gotten to this

1247
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: point that this fool, this bozo has wound up where

1248
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: he has he talks how he wants to punch people

1249
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Speaker 1: in the face. Well, I'd like to punch him in

1250
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: the face, and I might just killing ices with the

1251
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: same ice pick that I murder Donald Trup been the

1252
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: same night with Which enemy are you most proud of?

1253
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: Probably Republicans? Alright, hour to Sean Hannity's show, eight nine one, Shawn,

1254
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: you want to be part of the program. By the way,

1255
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: new king Ridge's book has been number one for literally

1256
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: like two months before even its release. Understanding Trump may

1257
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: end up being probably the best selleries he's had up

1258
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: to date, and he's had a thousand best sellers, And

1259
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: of course he writes fiction and nonfiction. This is the

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01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: real story about the man that was able to beat

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: sixteen other Republicans governors and senators and people with greater

1262
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: name recognition and the most unconventional politician in our lifetime,

1263
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: and why he remains successful and was able to win

1264
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Speaker 1: the presidency. And by the way, if you're around Tyson's

1265
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Speaker 1: corner and McClain, Virginia Newt has a book signing coming

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Speaker 1: up tonight at seven o'clock. Oh that's awesome, and I've

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Speaker 1: never is this the biggest book so far? Launch you've

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Speaker 1: ever had the bast except for New America, which came

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Speaker 1: right after the speaker, But this one may rival that

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Speaker 1: it's really on a role right now. Yeah, no, I understand. Um,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you, this just played all the vitriol,

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Speaker 1: all the hate and by the way, I could spend

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Speaker 1: a whole week, three hours a day, all day playing

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Speaker 1: the left hatred and vitriol and the culminating, of course

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Speaker 1: with the assassination attempt against all of these Republican congressmen

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Speaker 1: and senators. And do you think the rhetoric, the hatred,

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Speaker 1: the vitriol, the the conspiracy theory advancement, the undermining of

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Speaker 1: President Trump, which all of it has, it contributed to

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Speaker 1: an atmosphere that sets off crazy people. And you just

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Speaker 1: have to blame them. Oh absolutely. I just talked to

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Speaker 1: the College Republican National Convention and about a third of

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Speaker 1: the students reported about the tension on their campus. One

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Speaker 1: young lady was actually suspended from her sorority for for

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Speaker 1: being a Trump supporter. I mean, just just a level

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Speaker 1: of hostility across the whole system and it has consequences.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're actually aware that. Again, I don't blame

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Speaker 1: them for what happened this week, because I think when

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Speaker 1: you have a guy who picks up a gun and

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Speaker 1: goes out, he is responsible. He's the one we should punish.

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Speaker 1: And he you know, he's the guy who's crazy. But

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Speaker 1: I certainly think the over underlying pattern of tension and

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Speaker 1: of potential violence is very deep, and it's very real,

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Speaker 1: and it's something I experienced when I go out and

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Speaker 1: I speak on campuses and then I asked students to

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Speaker 1: tell me about their experiences. It's a it's a real,

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Speaker 1: real challenge. Well, it's deeper than that, I mean, because

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Speaker 1: then you've got the conspiracy theories. I mean, I watched

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Speaker 1: I saw this today and and it was I guess when,

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Speaker 1: maybe it was after Comey, in the middle of the hearings.

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Speaker 1: And then I read an article today Racio Mattow concludes

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Speaker 1: that there's a possibility there was no Trump Russia collusion.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, here we go. Black helicopter conspiracy theorists,

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Speaker 1: the leading tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist in the country, without

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Speaker 1: any evidence at all whatsoever, has been advancing this crap

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Speaker 1: and now all of a said, well, there's just a

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Speaker 1: slight possibility there is no Trump Russia collusion. Now, I

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Speaker 1: thought the most amazing example of that was immediately after

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Speaker 1: company was done, Chris Matthews, to his credit, said no

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Speaker 1: reasonable person can believe in collusion after this testimony. Now,

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Speaker 1: for Matthews to say that, I thought it was pretty historic.

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Speaker 1: Oh he played it. The second after he play it

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Speaker 1: said it, and I didn't know if it was a

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Speaker 1: moment of just sanity that crept into his life for

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Speaker 1: a second. But he's right, there is no evidence. And

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Speaker 1: I sense now that the left is ever so slowly

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Speaker 1: trying to backfire, you know, once once you know, look

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Speaker 1: at the Washington Post this week, once they found out

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Speaker 1: there's okay, no Trump investigation. There's no evidence of collusion,

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Speaker 1: there's no evidence of obstruction because the president clearly, even

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Speaker 1: according to Comy, encouraged the investigation to move forward, and

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Speaker 1: he also encouraged to go you know that he would

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Speaker 1: investigate even the satellites around him. So there's no evidence there.

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Speaker 1: So what does the Washington Post do? The same people

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Speaker 1: proven wrong multiple times in just the last couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks when they said, oh, just before Comey's fired, he

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Speaker 1: wanted more money, and and Rosenstein, oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: in his case. Uh. He he never said what they

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Speaker 1: said he said, which is that he threatened to quit.

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Speaker 1: He went on an interview and said just the opposite.

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Speaker 1: So now they come out with two articles, two nights

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Speaker 1: in a row, one against Jared quote collateral damage and

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Speaker 1: one against you know, the President himself, that the Special

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Speaker 1: Council is investigating both of them, but they have no

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Speaker 1: sources at all. And Rosenstein comes out and says, nobody

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Speaker 1: should believe these on star stories. But by the way,

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Speaker 1: I did my newsletter today at English Productions, which is

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Speaker 1: available for free on Attorney General Sessions as a study

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Speaker 1: and courage. If you look at his testimony, it is

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Speaker 1: a case study and what Republicans ought to be like.

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Speaker 1: He is direct, he is tough, he's emotional when appropriate.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't take anything off the Democrats. Uh, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's a remarkable testimony. Uh. And it's really what if

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Speaker 1: every Republican were as determined and as tough as as

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Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions was in his appearance, we'd be in dramatically

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Speaker 1: better shape right now. Totally agree with you. Let me

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Speaker 1: in the context of you writing Understanding Trump, can you

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Speaker 1: explain the most hostile, vitriolic negative reaction I mean it

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Speaker 1: is a almost apart mentality against the president and including

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Speaker 1: that your analysis of the deep state, and that is

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Speaker 1: our intelligence community leaking against him. Can I just insert

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Speaker 1: one quick thing because it's a personal thing. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: President today in Miami took a personal friend of listen me,

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Speaker 1: Louise has and his wife Dana had Louise up on

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Speaker 1: the stage. Louise was a child prodigy who refused to

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Speaker 1: play for Fidel when Fidel physically went into their home

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Speaker 1: and said, you will play for me. Play something. He

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Speaker 1: played the Star Spangled banner. He was eight years old.

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Speaker 1: At eight years of age, he had the guts to

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Speaker 1: stand there in front of the dictator. His father was

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Speaker 1: killed by rule. Uh. He can't go back to Cuba

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Speaker 1: because they'd never let him go again. Uh. And then

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Speaker 1: the President brought him up on stage, told this amazing

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Speaker 1: story of courage and then ask him to play the

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Speaker 1: Star Spangled banner on his violin. He was first violin

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Speaker 1: at the National Orchestra. Is very close friend of ours.

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Speaker 1: I married, somebody worked for me for years a day

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Speaker 1: and Has I just had to get that in such

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Speaker 1: an emotional and such a powerful story. Now, now let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the deep state, which is obvious. I mean,

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Speaker 1: of the money given by employees at the Justice to Parliament,

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Speaker 1: go to Hillary of the State Department, go to Hillary Um.

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Speaker 1: The first four people hired by Mueller are all Democratic donors,

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Speaker 1: one of whom actually defended the Clinton Foundation against Freedom

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Speaker 1: of Information Act requests. And give me a break. You know,

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Speaker 1: the people people want us to be so stupid that

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Speaker 1: if a herd of elephants runs through our living room

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Speaker 1: crushes everything, we're supposed to go. Gee. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: we had a party now. These people, these people are

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Speaker 1: our opponents. And I'll tell you what I believe is

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Speaker 1: the real cause of this. At eight o'clock on election night,

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Speaker 1: everyone on the left was prepared to win, and they

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Speaker 1: were then going to finish imposing left wing radical values

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Speaker 1: through the courts and through the bureaucracies. Uh, they were salivating,

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Speaker 1: they were happy. Three hours later they were in the

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Speaker 1: worst of all worlds that they hadn't lost to a

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Speaker 1: moderate establishment Republican. They've lost at Donald J. Trump. And

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Speaker 1: I think the trauma of those three hours was so

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Speaker 1: decisive that they've never recovered and at the level of

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Speaker 1: hatred that they feel, and that it is it's hatred

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Speaker 1: the level of fature they feel, which is which is

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Speaker 1: virtually deranged. I think, I want, I want to pick

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Speaker 1: it up there and how this plays out this level

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Speaker 1: of hatred. But we have former Speaker with the House,

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Speaker 1: New King, which is brand new book. It is now

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Speaker 1: bestseller across the country. You can get it at Amazon

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Speaker 1: sized version of the show that you can take with you.

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Speaker 1: Sign up today for Hannity headlines, go to Hannity dot com.

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Speaker 1: And as we continue, former Speaker of the House Snow

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Speaker 1: King Rich is brand new book Understanding Trump, and he

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a Tyson's Corner tonight at the at

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Speaker 1: a book signing in McClain, Virginia, seven o'clock. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are showing up at

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Speaker 1: your book signings, which is terrific for you. One of

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Speaker 1: your best selling books of all time. And I want

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Speaker 1: to ask this question. This is important. So you talk

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Speaker 1: about the madness of the left, and and at eleven

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Speaker 1: o'clock on November eight, election day, they don't get over it.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got a deep state conspiracy, and now

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Speaker 1: you've got a special counsel, leaking information with conflicts of interest,

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Speaker 1: hiring Hillary Clinton lawyers, and Clinton and Obama donors to

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Speaker 1: investigate the president and his family. I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anything more inherently corrupt or conflicting

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Speaker 1: than this. And in the case of Rosenstein, he sees it.

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Speaker 1: In the case of Mueller, he's still there. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. When when you recognize that

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Speaker 1: this is a pattern. Comy under Bush appointed the godfather

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Speaker 1: to his children, Patrick Fitzgerald, to be an independent counsel

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Speaker 1: or special counsel at a time when there was no

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Speaker 1: They knew that there was no crime committed in the

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Speaker 1: Valerie Plai case because she was not a protected agent

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Speaker 1: at that time, and they knew who had leaked her name,

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Speaker 1: Richard Armata just state. Even though they knew these two things,

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Speaker 1: he appointed the godfather his children, who ran am unk

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Speaker 1: because his goal was to get Dick Cheney, and in

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Speaker 1: the end he did tremendous damage, caused people a lot

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Speaker 1: of money, and put basically totally innocent guy in jail.

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Speaker 1: Um As it's a horrendous story. So when I watched

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Speaker 1: Mueller and I really turned totally. I thought Muller was

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Speaker 1: fine when they first named you, but the minute that

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Speaker 1: Comy testified with enormous arrogance that he had deliberately leaked

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Speaker 1: through a college professor in order this is his words,

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Speaker 1: not mine, in order to get a special council appointed,

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Speaker 1: and the special counsels his good friend, who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: under professional rules of justice, would have to recuse himself

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Speaker 1: in investigating Comey. I mean, this is crazy. And that's

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Speaker 1: the point in which I said, well, but everybody in

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Speaker 1: the media is like hyperventiling. Okay, if Trump fires him,

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Speaker 1: this is Watergate in a Saturday night massacre, right, And

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Speaker 1: that's because everybody in the media has totally sold out

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Speaker 1: to the left. Not everybody, but eight percent of the

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Speaker 1: media is sold out to the left. Uh. And that

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Speaker 1: you have to assume automatically that this is the attack media.

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Speaker 1: It's not the news media. I've said over and over

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Speaker 1: again if I were Trump, I would kick CNN out

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Speaker 1: of the White House. The idea of that they got

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Speaker 1: a nine negative story rating from Harvard. Why would you

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Speaker 1: let somebody into your house who is nine three percent

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Speaker 1: of time attacking you? Uh? You know, and I think

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Speaker 1: we all just said to send the amazing thing about

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Speaker 1: Trump's favorable so he right now there about forty table.

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Speaker 1: The amazing thing is that's after everything they've tried to

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Speaker 1: do to him. I mean, the unending negative coverage and

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Speaker 1: over four every time American just shrug it off, and

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Speaker 1: they're getting they're getting madder about him. People walk up

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Speaker 1: to me everywhere and thank me for speaking out. I'm

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Speaker 1: really amazed. I get the same thing. And then then

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Speaker 1: then we also they want to silence you and me too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, just a little side note, they'd like

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Speaker 1: to shut you up and me up at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll go start a you know, uh, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to a bottle of wine and two Dixie cups if

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Speaker 1: we get fired. Um well, now look look at that.

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Speaker 1: If they shut me up, I'm just gonna go and

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Speaker 1: become a monk considered a mountaintop and call yeah, the

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Speaker 1: same with me. That's my future, right. They wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: accept me, they throw me out. They're not gonna shut

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Speaker 1: up up. This is a free society. Still, I'm prepared

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Speaker 1: to stand and fight for this country as long as

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Speaker 1: it takes me too. God bless him. The book is

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Speaker 1: called Understanding Trump bookstores everywhere. Tyson's Corner tonight seven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: If you want to meet the speak here, he'll be speaking,

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Speaker 1: signing books. We'll take a quick break the Cobby One.

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Speaker 1: Katie Hopkins is next, and we're gonna look at the

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Speaker 1: vitril of the left in our news round up Information

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Speaker 1: Overload Hour with the Media Equalizer dot com group Melanie

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Speaker 1: Morgan and Brian Maloney. Straight ahead. You know you never

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Speaker 1: want to miss the Sean Hannity Show, and now you

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Speaker 1: never have to. Just sign up for Hannity Headlines, bite

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Speaker 1: sized version of the show that you can take with

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Speaker 1: you on your laptop, your mobile phone everywhere you go,

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Speaker 1: even to your liberal in law's place in Vermont. So

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Speaker 1: um yeah, and after a few hours of that, you'll

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Speaker 1: be glad you've brought Shawn along. To sign up today

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Speaker 1: for Hannity Headlines, go to Hannity dot Com. Insurance giant

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Speaker 1: United Health Group dealt a blow to the Affordable Care

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Speaker 1: Act on Thursday when it warned that it may stop

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Speaker 1: offering insurance plans to individuals through the public exchanges established

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Speaker 1: by the reform law. One of the nation's largest health insurers,

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Speaker 1: United Health, has announced that they will exit out of

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Speaker 1: most Obamacare exchanges starting next year. They will only operate

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Speaker 1: in a handful of states. Panthom is one of the

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Speaker 1: two providers that is exiting the marketplace for eighteen. We

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Speaker 1: received the announcement from me an A yesterday. Like the

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Speaker 1: rest of the nation, that Humanitous pulling out a nationwide

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Speaker 1: for health insurance exchanges blamacures. Insurance exchanges are losing major

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Speaker 1: insurance companies, leaving many US counties with only one or

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Speaker 1: two health plan choices. Company Etna says it's pulling out

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Speaker 1: of the health exchanges set up by the Affordable Care

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Speaker 1: Act in eleven of the fifteen states, including North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: To worring development is the decision by several large insurers,

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01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: including Etna and United Health, to pull out of the

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Speaker 1: Many of the exchanges, and many of the nonprofit copp

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Speaker 1: insurers formed after the lost passage have also failed. All right,

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01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 1: I'd glad you with us twenty five now till the

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01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: top of the hour That couple with Jonathan grew burd

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01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: which we played at the top of the last hour

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Speaker 1: with Mark Meadows of the Freedom Caucus, and you've got

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01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: to wonder. So we're in a situation where okay, the

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Speaker 1: healthcare bill, Obamacare. We were lied to, we were manipulated.

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01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: They counted on quote, the stupidity of the American people.

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01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: Millions lost their plans, their doctors, and of course Americans

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01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: didn't saved dollars per family per year. They ended up

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01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: on average paying eight thousand dollars more. Now in the Senate,

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01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: they have released their bill today. Senator Ted Cruz, Senator

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01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: Ram Paul, Senator Mike Lee, Senator Ron Johnson all said

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Speaker 1: they cannot support the current rendition of the Senate's Obamacare

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: replacement bill on its current form, but they suggested that

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01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: they could change it in a few ways if amendments

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Speaker 1: are included, that they would support. Ted Cruz said he

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01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: can't yet support the bill, and he said in a

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Speaker 1: statement joint statement with Johnson and Lee and Ram Paul,

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Speaker 1: currently for a variety of reasons, we're not ready to

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Speaker 1: vote for this bill, but we are open to negotiation

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01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: and obtaining more information for it's brought to the floor now.

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01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: The Senate Majority Leader McConnell wanted to vote on this

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Speaker 1: sometime next week, as fellow Kentucky Senator Ran Paul is

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01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: with us, how are you pretty good? John thanks for

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01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: having me. Now we're never going to get full repeal.

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01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 1: What's just the fact bill wasn't full repeal and we had,

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01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, the most frustrating part of this to me

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01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: was in the House, you had over a hundred Congressmen

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01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: that we learned rhino week, spineless Republicans that said one

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01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: thing and meant another. They had no intention of ever

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01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: repealing and replacing fully Obamacare. So that's frustrating. But that said, thanks,

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01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: you know, for goodness, sexually have to repeal some of it.

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01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the current bill actually keeps all of the

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01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: Obamacare subsidies, and we're working on the numbers right now,

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01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: but we think it actually may spend more in federal

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01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: subsidies in Obamacare. We think in the next year or

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01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 1: two that this new plan, the Republican plan, may be

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01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: more expensive than Obamacare over the next two years. Okay,

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01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: so the next is it part of the transitioning costs.

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01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: So you're saying, oh, were all long term, but the

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01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: reason one reason that costs more is they're keeping all

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01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: the Medicaid expansion for like another three years. In fact,

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01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: they let new people enroll and there is no payment

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01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: for it. In fact, we're getting rid of the taxes

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01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,879
Speaker 1: that pay for it. So I'm all for eliminating the taxes,

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01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: but it's not really good sense to eliminate the taxes

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01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 1: and keep the spending. But three years they're going to

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01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 1: do that way. If they got rid of that part

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01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: of it, would that be Would that bring you a

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01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: long way to supporting it or not? It's it's a

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01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: big start in the right direction. But it's not only

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01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: that they're letting people expand there is no end to

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01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: the Medicaid expansion. And the thing is is, if we're

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01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: honest with ourselves, if people really wanted medicaid expansion, we

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01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: should pay for it. You know, I've told people in

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Speaker 1: Kentucky you could double the state income tax, double the

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01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: sales tax. Of course we'd be at a great disadvantage

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01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: with Tennessee then, but if you really want Medicaid expansion,

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01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: pay for it. But we shouldn't have it and then

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01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: just say we're gonna borrow more money for it, because

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna destroy the whole country borrowing money to pay

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01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: for it for new entitlement programs. Well, where are you

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01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: in terms of talking to leadership? I mean, you have

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01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: as much access to Mitch McConnell as anybody. I think

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01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: the conversation begins in earnest now that there are four

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01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: of us, four of us means they can't pass it

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01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,799
Speaker 1: without at least a couple of us deciding to accept

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01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: some changes to the bill. But by ourselves we have

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01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: no power. Four people together we now have some power

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01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: to influence a bill. So far we have had no

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01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 1: influence on the bill. But we just announced an hour ago.

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01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: So our hope is that the four of us will

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01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: now get an audience with those who are writing the bill,

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01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: and we will say this is what we want in

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01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: exchange for consideration of your bill. So basically, you're saying

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01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: the same horrible process, top down leadership only, establishment only.

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01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: I guess collaboration exists until they can't ram it down

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01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: your throat. Then you get invited in it. I mean,

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01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: is that really any way to run? This is too

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01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: important to let them do it to us. You know,

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01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: when I came up here, I said we ought to

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01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: read the damn bills before we vote on them. And

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01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: I have legislation that says we should wait one day

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01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: for every twenty pages of legislations. That'd be about seven

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01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 1: working days. For this bill we're gonna get if we

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01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: get the CBO score on Monday, and we get the

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01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 1: final language on Monday or Tuesday, they're gonna vote twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours later. Twenty four hours is not even using

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01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: the CBO score anymore, considering they're all, you know, billions

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01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: and trillions of dollars almost every time, isn't it rather

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01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: useless and outdated and antiquated. Well, CBO is terrible at

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01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: estimating who will buy insurance there and so far off

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01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: they're not any worth looking at. However, if they're telling

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01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: you how much a refundable tax credit costs and how

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Speaker 1: much spending will be in medicaid, actually better at that.

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01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: And so I do want to see how much it

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01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: estimates that we will spend in medicaid and how much

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01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna give away. And it is very important to

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01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: me because if this bill spends more than Obamacare, I

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01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: can't touch it with a ten foot poll. And it's

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01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: also not repeal if it actually spends more. Yeah, well

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01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: I agree with that too, but is it do you? Actually?

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01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: You know what always happens. You always get the tax increase,

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01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: you never get the spending huts. All right, you're gonna

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01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: have a three year period, but does it ever go

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01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: away because you and I both know future Congresses will say, well,

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01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: let's just keep doing it, Let's just keep spending. Let's

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01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: not take away that money, because then Democrats will go

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01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: out there and demonize it. If you're gonna do it,

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01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: you might as well do it right, and you might

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01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 1: as well do it at the beginning. I don't understand

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01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: the process of phasing it out. Well. The interesting thing

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01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: is is Medicaid expansion will never go away into this bill.

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01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: Everybody that signs up new for Medicaid in the next

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01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: three years and all expansion states, they're all allowed to stay. Now,

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01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: gradually the state will have to go back to paying

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01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: the normal split state faced part of it, in the

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01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: federal government based part of it, but they'll be allowed

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01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: to keep the expansion. So the interesting thing is is

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01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 1: that we're really not getting rid of the Medica expansion.

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01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: We're actually keeping it. So Medicaid expansion was a big

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01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: part of Obamacare, we're keeping it. Well. One of the

1627
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: great incentives to get governors like Casi in Ohio to

1628
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: support this thing was that money tax subsidies were a

1629
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: big part of Obamacare. We're keeping them too, um having

1630
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: a high risk pool that's paid for by the federal government.

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01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: These were called risk orders under Obamacare. They're called stabilization

1632
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: fund under the Republican plan. But here's the point, Sean.

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01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: I mean, if you had cars being too expensive and

1634
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: everybody's complaining they couldn't get a new car, I can

1635
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 1: bring down the price of cars by having a hundred

1636
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: billion dollars stabilization fund for cars, and the price for

1637
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,839
Speaker 1: cars will go down. But that's not America. That's not freedom,

1638
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: that's not free enterprise, it's not free markets. That's just

1639
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: basically good old fashioned big government that we used to

1640
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: think Republicans were op posed to. You know, well, what

1641
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: about the options that you and I have discussed at

1642
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: length here the You know, for example, my buddy Josh Chumber,

1643
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 1: who is with this cooperative that he created where it's

1644
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: fifty bucks a month for an adult and it's unlimited

1645
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: care and ten bucks a month for a child. And

1646
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: you and I both know under Obamacare it's illegal to

1647
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: buy a catastrophic plan that would now be legal. Does

1648
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: this create the option, the availability of these cooperatives to

1649
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: spring up around the country, which is basically conciators service

1650
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: for for bluke dollar workers. Does it allow healthcare savings

1651
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: accounts to now be part of the equation for most people?

1652
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 1: There are twelve key regulations in Obamacare. This bill repeals

1653
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: two out of twelve. But you didn't answer my questions.

1654
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: Is this paid the way for the cooperatives and health

1655
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: savings accounts? There is going to be some good language

1656
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: in there that will be what I've been talking about,

1657
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: trying to expand the Health Association, so that is a

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01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 1: good thing. There will be some expansion of h s

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01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 1: as in it, so those are good things. So there're

1660
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: also repeal of taxes. That's a good thing. So there

1661
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: are several things in the bill that are good. But

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01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: on balance, as somebody who cares very deeply about the deficit,

1663
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: even if there are some good things in it, and

1664
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: I love getting rid of taxes, but if we're keeping

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01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,839
Speaker 1: so much spending that it actually adds to the deficit

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01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: or will make the deficit worse over time, that's a problem. Yeah,

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01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: well I agree. I don't hear you getting to yes

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01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: on this bill. I've known you a lot of years.

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01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't hear yes coming from Rampaul on this bill.

1670
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 1: If they're willing to negotiate in a serious way. We

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01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: could because I've told and look, I'm for a hundred

1672
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: percent repeal, but i'll set over repeal. But right now,

1673
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: we're not repealing any of the tax subsidies. So the

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01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: tax subsidies were keeping nearly a percent maybe even over.

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01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: We're creating a new federal program, the cost sharing subsidies

1676
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: that we all said, oh, we're not going to fund these,

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01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: We're going to fund them in there. So I mean

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01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: we are really keeping large segments of Obamacare. We really

1679
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 1: aren't being Repealing the Obamacare taxes and then continuing the

1680
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 1: subsidies for you is just a killer. We get rid

1681
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: of the taxes, keep the spending, but that's not repealing Obamacare.

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01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 1: It's a whimpy way out. It's Obamacare light. There are

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Speaker 1: other little good things in there, like banning the use

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Speaker 1: of federal funds for abortions, repealing the mandate that individuals

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Speaker 1: are required to buy it, repealing the mandate that employers

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Speaker 1: must provide it, you know, protecting pre exists and conditions.

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Speaker 1: Everyone agrees on that. The problem, though, Sean, is that

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Speaker 1: if you get rid of the individual mandate, but you

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Speaker 1: still still tell people they can buy insurance after they

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Speaker 1: get sick. They do. And that's what's the deskpotle of

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Speaker 1: Obamacare is healthy people don't boy because it's too expensive.

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Speaker 1: Sick people get it, and it becomes a pool of

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Speaker 1: sick people, and the price goes through the roof. That is,

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Speaker 1: you know, in your intro to the program, you talked

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Speaker 1: about all the rates going up and all the companies leaving.

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Speaker 1: Under the Republican plan, that still will continue. They're going

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Speaker 1: to stabilize it by printing up federal money and giving

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Speaker 1: a hundred thirty billion dollars to insurance companies. But like

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Speaker 1: I said, we could do that for education too. Do

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Speaker 1: we want to say education is expensive, Let's have an

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Speaker 1: education stabilization fund, a car stabilization fund, and iPhone and

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Speaker 1: stabilization fund. I don't want to work anymore. I think

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Speaker 1: I deserve a house, a car, a government car. I

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Speaker 1: think I deserve government healthcare, daycare. I think I need

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Speaker 1: somebody to bathe me, a government healthcare provider, just for

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Speaker 1: my own personal comforts in life. Because it's a cradle

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Speaker 1: to grave wounded tomb, you know, just utopia wealth transfer

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01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: wealth transfer program that in many ways is what has

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Speaker 1: gotten us into the position we are in, and without

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Speaker 1: free market solutions here as the highlight of this bill,

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Speaker 1: I think we're making a mistake, like you do well,

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Speaker 1: and that's what disappoints me about this. You know, Republicans,

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Speaker 1: at least a huge bunch of them, they don't they've

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Speaker 1: never had any intention of repealing Senator Well, they have.

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Speaker 1: They have insufficient confidence in freedom, insufficient confidence capitalism. Uh

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Speaker 1: competition and the free market is why our country is

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Speaker 1: a great country, richest, greatest country in the history of

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Speaker 1: mankind because of freedom, competition, capitalism. But if you're not

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Speaker 1: going to allow that in healthcare, and you're gonna do

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Speaker 1: some kind of wimpy form of Obamacare, light, I'm afraid

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna get is that the desk barrel is

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Speaker 1: going to continue. But Republicans are gonna own it, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna call it trump Care, and it's still gonna

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Speaker 1: be a disaster a year from now. All right, Rand

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Speaker 1: Paul's with us eight nine for one. Shawn is a

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Speaker 1: toe free telephone number. We'll have more with him on

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Speaker 1: the other side of this. We'll talk about should the Congress,

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Speaker 1: the House, and Senate stay over August recess will get

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Speaker 1: his take on that and more. And as we continue

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Speaker 1: with Senator ram Paul. The Senate has released a healthcare

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Speaker 1: bill today. Four senators now have said they can't support

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Speaker 1: it in its current form. One of them Rampaul of Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: and the others are Ron Johnson and Ted Cruz and

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Speaker 1: also Senator Mike Lee. All right, now, how close are

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Speaker 1: the four of you in terms of your disagreement? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know you're released a joint statement, but you didn't

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Speaker 1: say we all agree, uh and disagree on this part

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Speaker 1: in that part? Do you feel that you're in sync

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Speaker 1: the four of you or do you think their differences

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Speaker 1: just between the four of you? You know, our hope

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Speaker 1: is to work together on this and to negotiate as

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Speaker 1: a team. I think separately none of us have the

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Speaker 1: power to change this bill or make it better. But

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Speaker 1: if we work together, I think there's quite a bit

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Speaker 1: we can do. I know that all of us have

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Speaker 1: been concerned about the cost of insurance and that the

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Speaker 1: regulations of Obamacare add to the cost, and that if

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Speaker 1: we don't get rid of the regulations, they'll still be uh,

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Speaker 1: that insurance will still continue to rise. The death spiral

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Speaker 1: of Obamacare will continue, and so really that means repealing regulation.

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Speaker 1: The Republican bill gets rid of two of twelve. Um.

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Speaker 1: I feel certain that if we stick together as a team,

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Speaker 1: we can get a few more of those regulations repealed.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you get to yes? Do you think

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Speaker 1: you get to yes at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: I think it's uncertain, and that I am willing to

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Speaker 1: negotiate in good faith because I do want repeal and

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Speaker 1: like I say, there are some good things repealing taxes,

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Speaker 1: but I don't want to create new federal entitlement programs.

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Speaker 1: And the tax subsidies of Obamacare are essentially an entitlement

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Speaker 1: program that's not getting your own money back, You're getting

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Speaker 1: someone else's money. And we already have enormous entitlement programs

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Speaker 1: that are out there through the tax credit system. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's I guess I just can't do that.

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Speaker 1: I can't vote for federal going to get bigger. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we have a five billion dollar deficit, and I think

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Speaker 1: if we get bigger, there is a danger our our

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Speaker 1: our debt could get so large that it consumes us

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Speaker 1: as a nation. What about the trillion dollars in savings

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Speaker 1: that's needed for the president's economic plant. Well, you mean

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Speaker 1: lowering the taxes by a trillion dollars. No, I mean

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Speaker 1: according to their analysis when they passed the House bill,

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Speaker 1: that there was a trillion dollars in savings that they

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Speaker 1: would literally transfer over to the president's economic Yeah. It's

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Speaker 1: sort of confusing, Sean, the way they do Washington, mass So,

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Speaker 1: for example, let's say Obamacare cost a trillion over ten

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Speaker 1: years and they're gonna repeal eight hundred billion dollars. They say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we saved eight hundred billion, But to my mind, if

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Speaker 1: they repealed the whole thing, they would have saved a trillion,

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Speaker 1: So they actually spent two hundred billions. It sort of

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Speaker 1: depends on your perspective. The other thing I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: is spending goes up at you know, about a five

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Speaker 1: clip for all of government every year, and so if

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Speaker 1: they cut it to four percent, they call that a cut.

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Speaker 1: Really there's cutting the rate of growth of spending. And

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Speaker 1: I think the way I look at it right now,

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Speaker 1: social Security spends more than they bring in in taxes,

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Speaker 1: Medicare spends more than it brings in in taxes. Food

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Speaker 1: stamps and Medicaid have no specific funding, so I don't

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Speaker 1: know where anybody's coming up with a new money for things.

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Speaker 1: I gotta leave it there centered around Paul will stay

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Speaker 1: in touch and see where this goes. By the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, hopefully they'll make some improvements that at

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Speaker 1: least get us on the path to a much better

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Speaker 1: health care system that's going to save money, increase access,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I would hopefully get some of these

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Speaker 1: cooperatives and health savings accounts in. We'll continue