1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Jetty and now he Armstrong and Letty. 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Ukraine landing a punishing blow against Russia with a surprise 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: drone attack dubbed Operation Spiderweb. More than forty aircraft ablaze 6 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: after the highly sophisticated operation was launched Sunday, the attack 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: that was a year and a half in the planning. 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: The drones were transported to Russia inside what looked to 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: be shipping containers with retractable ruse that could be opened remotely. 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: The drones flying out on their mission. The Ukrainians did 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: not inform the US ahead of time. The high tech 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: planes worth billions of dollars now in ruins and will 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: take years to replace. 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: It looks like around thirty percent high of their strategic 15 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 3: bombers were destroyed. Some of these drones were as low 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: as five hundred dollars, taking out million dollar aircraft. 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: Five hundred dollars drones taking out multimillion dollar aircraft. A 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: third of their strategic bombers blown up Russia's Pearl Harbor. 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: Some people are calling it an amazing attack from Ukraine. 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: The way they got the drones into the country and 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 4: then had them in these crates in which the lid 22 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: automatically opened up and the drones flew out, and they'd 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 4: been according to Zelensky yesterday, they'd been planning this for 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: a year and a half. 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 5: Amazing stuff. Let's discuss with our military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 5: it's always a pleasure. 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: How are you, hey, guys, Great to be back with you. 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: You called it in your tweet yesterday, a significant increase 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: in capabilities by the Ukrainians. 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 6: Explain that, Yeah, I mean, they combine their imagination with 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 6: regard to what they thought they can do, and you know, 32 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 6: out thinking Russia on so many perspectives. Number one, getting 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 6: through the the Russian air defense systems. I mean, this 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 6: was something that the United States never thought we would 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 6: be able to get through. And you know, if we 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 6: were having a you know, Cold war type nuclear attack, 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 6: we thought the Russian air defense platforms were going to 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 6: be amazing. The fact that they were able to target 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 6: and get to as specific they were with with this 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 6: drone swarm. We we've not really seen the drone swarm 41 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 6: that that's a huge threat. Now from a military perspective, 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 6: we're concerned about Chinese the military doing that. You know, 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 6: you watch these Chinese lights shows with drones, and I 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 6: always look at them saying, boy, if there was an 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 6: armament on each one of those things, where we would 46 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 6: be in trouble. So so you bring all that all 47 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 6: together and to your you know, the point about the 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 6: economic efficiency of this. Taking you know, about fifty grand 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 6: worth of drones and knocking out hundreds of millions of 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 6: dollars of Russian hardware, it shows real capability. And I 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 6: wouldn't put it at at the Pearl Harbor level. I mean, 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 6: obviously we know what that led to. I think I 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 6: think it's more of a do little, you know, raider 54 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 6: level type operation. 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: It really is a. 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 6: Big punch in the knows to Russia. We'll have to 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 6: see now what retaliation looks like. But you take Ukraine's 58 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 6: tremendous imagination combined with Russia just not thinking it through, 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 6: and you get the result that we see. 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 5: So, Mike, you've already partially answered this question, but help 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 5: us understand why drones. 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Of this sort. 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 5: As opposed to missiles, you know, standard armaments, What are 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:26,559 Speaker 5: the capabilities? 65 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Why are they so effective. 66 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 6: So in a swarming perspective from a formation, they highlight 67 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 6: the principle of mass that are used. You know, a 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 6: missile and it is very accurate, provides you know, kind 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 6: of a one for one travels at a tremendous speed. 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 6: Maybe you can't knock it out. But if you put 71 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 6: ten thousand drones in the sky and they can do 72 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 6: a lot of different things, and you lay over now 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 6: artificial intelligence on those, you take the human element out 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 6: of the decision of what targets they go to hit. 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 6: You have a tremendous war fighting capability that just hasn't 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 6: existed on the battlefield yet. I mean this is from 77 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 6: the economic perspective alone. I mean we you know, we 78 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 6: look at equipment to take out tanks, for example, we 79 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 6: have equipment that takes out Russian tanks that's not as 80 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 6: expensive as a tank. You know, a tank is the 81 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 6: best thing to take out another tank, for example. But 82 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 6: you combine all those things and you get this kind 83 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 6: of massive change. I had been waiting to see whether 84 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 6: we were going to see a drawing swarm. I thought 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 6: it would a drones swarm. I thought we would see 86 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 6: it inside Ukraine itself. You could see, for example, the 87 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 6: Russians haven't done it. They shows you that they don't 88 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 6: have this kind of capability, and the targets that they 89 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 6: would likely go after would be critical infrastructure. They don't 90 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 6: even have to go after the military targets go after 91 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 6: critical infrastructure. Now what Ukraine did you know? Doesn't violate 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 6: the laws of modern warfare. They go after a military target. 93 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 6: But I'd be concerned about our enemies looking at critical 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 6: infrastructure on the United States. That I think is the 95 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 6: saftness of all targets that a drone swarm would be 96 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 6: effect to that. 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: Yikes. 98 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 5: So it occurs to me that for folks who haven't 99 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: been following the story over the weekend, a couple of 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 5: facts might helpful. This absolutely unique operation, that's a quote 101 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 5: from Zelenski, involved one. 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: Hundred and seventeen drones. 103 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 5: Ukrainian intelligence officials said the agency moved the small quad 104 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: copter drones to Russian territory, then moved wooden containers to Russia, 105 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: which were used to hide the drones ahead of the attack. 106 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 5: When it came to the strike, the containers were placed 107 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: on trucks and the lids of the containers opened remotely and 108 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: the swarm of drones like a swarm of bees, flew 109 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 5: out to find their targets. 110 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, all artificially intelligence based and knew exactly where 111 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 6: they were going to be. There was I saw some 112 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 6: false reporting about whether or not these planes were not 113 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 6: allowed to be in hangars and could be covered up 114 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 6: because of some you know, treaties between the Russian states. 115 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 6: That's just not true. 116 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I hadn't 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: thought of that. 118 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, there's a bunch of stuff flowing around on 119 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 4: the internet that Ukraine violated international nuclear treaties by attacking 120 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 4: these planes. It's a it's a rule, but we all 121 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: have to have all these planes out in the open, 122 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And you're saying that's not true. 123 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 6: No, that's not true. I mean, there were open sky 124 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 6: treaties that were back in the eighties and nineties, and 125 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 6: most of them expired in early two thousands, and the 126 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 6: only thing we really have is a New Star Treaty, 127 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 6: but Russia and the United States backed out of that 128 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty three, so there's no rules that said 129 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 6: they have to be out in the open. In fact, 130 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 6: they're out in the open for operational purposes, because in case, 131 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 6: you have to get in a plane quick and get 132 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 6: it going their store on the runways for that reason. 133 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 6: So that's where the trade off was. Now again, they 134 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 6: still should have been protected by air defense assets, I 135 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 6: mean close in tactical air defense assets, but bring back 136 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 6: the drone swarm. Those close in tactical air defense assets 137 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 6: are usually a one for one. So now countries are 138 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 6: going to have to be thinking how do I protect 139 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 6: from a drone swarm? You think about you're going to 140 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 6: need multiple more drones. You're going to have to nets 141 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: other physical kind of aspects to figure out, you know, 142 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 6: kind of what that looks like. So everybody's gone back 143 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 6: to the drawing board now, figuring out how do I defend, 144 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 6: how our country defend against something like this, how do 145 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 6: we defend critical infrastructure. It's not the days of just 146 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 6: putting a patriot missile in front of these nuclear capable 147 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 6: bombers are over because that was a one for one, 148 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 6: you know, kind of a segue. This is going to 149 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 6: be a much more difficult asset to protect. 150 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: So how big a deal is it that? 151 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: A little over a week ago, the leader of Germany 152 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: said Hey, restrictions are off Ukraine. Now they can fire 153 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: as far into Russia as they want. And we're on 154 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: board with that, so's Britain, so's the United States sales frants. 155 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: How big a deal is that now? 156 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 6: Probably a big deal because all this those assets are 157 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 6: coming from NATO, they're coming from the West. It is 158 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 6: and isn't an escalation. We saw that the Biden administration 159 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 6: didn't want any kind of escalation. I'm still not sure 160 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 6: where the Trump administration is going to land on this, 161 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 6: if they're going to, you know, I've not seen anything 162 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 6: that's come out about that, whether they knew about the attack, 163 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 6: what exactly is going on there. I've not necessarily seen 164 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 6: where they're going to land on this. I think am 165 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 6: Given the way that Putin had been acting the week 166 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 6: that past few weeks, I think you're going to see 167 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 6: the support from the United States. But we just don't know. 168 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 6: But all these assets come, in most cases come where 169 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 6: the technology comes. Look, the reason why Ukraine knew that 170 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 6: those bombers were those where they were obviously because the 171 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 6: US intelligence that pinpointed them to probably fourteen digits the 172 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 6: Greek coordinates as to where those planes were going to 173 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 6: be and that's kind of the assets that were provided 174 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 6: to Ukraine in order to make that the attack happen. 175 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: We're talking to military analyst Mike Lyons. 176 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 5: Mike, I read just earlier today that Russia has a 177 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 5: fairly limited supply of these long range bombers and that 178 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 5: it's not even clear how many of them are operational 179 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: given their you know, the sorry state of their military. 180 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: What do you know about that? 181 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, the Tublo bomber, long range, these were the things 182 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 6: that we were worried about back in the nineteen eighties, 183 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 6: and that's why we created the B one to B two, 184 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 6: These long range nuclear capable bombers that can go great distance. 185 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 6: Is from where they were going to be launched from. 186 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 6: You know, they're well on the other side of the 187 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 6: Arail Mountains, for example, and from Russia's perspective, you know, 188 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 6: outside of any capability to be monitored. But they could 189 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 6: easily have reached anywhere in Western Europe and go in 190 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 6: the other direction, possibly hit the West coast of the 191 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 6: United States. But they're old, but that's not to say 192 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 6: that they're not good, because we still use the B 193 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 6: fifty two airframe, and we know that that that airframe 194 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 6: has been almost eighty years in existence now at this point, 195 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 6: But Russia hasn't necessarily developed new technology to replace these 196 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 6: specifical specific bombers. The new technology they've developed have more 197 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 6: air to air. They've been more of you know, different 198 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 6: kind of stealth fighters that that that don't necessarily carry 199 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 6: the same level of equipment that these ones carried. So 200 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 6: no question it's a loss, uh from from their perspective 201 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 6: and whether they have the parts so they can get 202 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 6: them up back up the speed. But they still have 203 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 6: some capability to do this at this point. 204 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: Joe, how do you feel about a pivot to China? 205 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: That's fine, let's put second deef Hegzeth over the weekend 206 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: gave a pretty exciting speech talking about we're going to 207 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: move some ship destroying equipment close enough to Taiwan. If 208 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: China decided to make that move, et cetera, et cetera, 209 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: We're ready to defend Taiwan. 210 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: Where are you on that whole story? 211 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 6: Well, I think there's going to be enough indicators whether 212 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 6: China is going to actually do that or not. I 213 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 6: think we've got to be concerned about China placing assets 214 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 6: close to the United States and containers like what the 215 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 6: Ukraine did, right, they could do the same thing to 216 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 6: us and threaten the United States if we decide to 217 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 6: get involved militarily there by bringing these civilian container ships 218 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 6: close to US cities, for example. And should we decide 219 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 6: to attack inside of China, which is what we would 220 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 6: have to do to defend Taiwan's there's no other way 221 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 6: around that. 222 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: And so wow, let's not go buy that real quick. 223 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: So if they of on Taiwan, we have to attack 224 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 4: inside China to defend Taiwan. 225 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 6: Whether yeah, there's no other where They're effectively knocked down 226 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 6: any kind of military action there because that that attack 227 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 6: would come from China. The China missiles would be landing 228 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 6: inside of Taiwan. I mean, there's no way they can 229 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 6: perform a seaborne invasion of Taiwan without indirect air assets 230 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 6: coming from the mainland China. So we would have to 231 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 6: we would decide we must have to attack what those 232 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 6: assets would be and they would not attack Taiwan unless 233 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 6: they had that with them. And your souls are on 234 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 6: the ground, You're not going to go in without the 235 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 6: combined forces of all your capability, which is really what 236 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 6: that would mean, which is why I think in some 237 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 6: ways this is all creating this deterrence, but as we 238 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 6: you know, it's going to be very much telegraphed a 239 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 6: to whether or not they're going to do this or not, 240 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 6: because if we see them moving assets, these container assets 241 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 6: close to the United States or see what's going on there, 242 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 6: we'll have an idea whether or not this is happening 243 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 6: or not. We can short circuit that by saying, hey, look, 244 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 6: you're going to have to move these ships and stuff 245 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 6: that you have close the United States because we think 246 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 6: they're going to threaten US based on a drune swarm 247 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 6: that could happen from China to US. 248 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 5: Holy Cow, this is almost too much to count, right. 249 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 5: Military analyst Mike Cleines, Mike, go ahead, was there one 250 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 5: more thing you were going to say? 251 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: No? 252 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 6: I think this is a big wake up call for everybody. 253 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: You know. 254 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 6: You see this president talking about Golden Dome, and I 255 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 6: think this is now the perfect confluence of you know, 256 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 6: artificial intelligence into drone systems and the Golden Dome that 257 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 6: you know we all remember from from the strategic initiatives 258 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 6: back from the Reagan administration in the eighties did more 259 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 6: to put a psychological advantage with US over Russia eventually 260 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 6: bankrupts the country. But in this case, you know, think 261 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 6: like what they do in Israel right now with the 262 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 6: Iron Dome system. You know, the more and more warfare 263 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 6: is going on, We're taking the we're taking the human 264 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 6: element out of the decision making and what the targets on, 265 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: and that that's going down a very slippery slope. But 266 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 6: I think we're going to see a. 267 00:12:59,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: Lot more of that. 268 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 5: Military analyst Mike Clions, Mike, fascinating and chilling. 269 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the time. 270 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 6: Great, thanks for me anytime. 271 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: Holy crap. 272 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: Yes, if the autonomous AI systems that refused to be 273 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 5: turned off wasn't going to haunt my dreams, Now I 274 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 5: have this. 275 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, great super I. 276 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: Know when I had him on, you were off for 277 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 4: some reason. I think when you're at the Master's golf 278 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: tournament and he talked about China striking Los Angeles San Francisco, 279 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 4: I was like, God, dang it could that actually happen? 280 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 4: I suppose I could. Of course it could actually happen, 281 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: but yeah, waits for Tad. 282 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 7: You know. 283 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: You know what's funny about American And we talked about 284 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: this last week in context Russia is we have so 285 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: not been attacked on our homeland. It seems like, oh no, no, no, 286 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 5: nobody would ever do that. That would be a bridge 287 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 5: far too far. 288 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 4: And every other country on Earth is like it's happen 289 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 4: at us thirty times. 290 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, would that get our attention? Anyway? 291 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 4: If you have any thoughts on that text line four 292 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: one five two nine five KFTC. 293 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 7: I'm a former McDonald's corpus. I am going to divulge 294 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 7: some information for you. Nobody believes me. Just to confirm 295 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 7: this magic seasoning, they legally have to post the ingredient 296 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 7: statement on their website. I'll even put the meat ingredient statement. 297 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 7: It's just salt and pepper. There's literally no other things 298 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 7: in it. Eighty six percent salt, fourteen percent pepper. The Hamburger, 299 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 7: the Mickdouble, the Double Cheeseburger, and the Big Mac same 300 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 7: seasoning is used on their quarter pounders. If you do 301 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 7: not think this is true, along with the beef being 302 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 7: all beef, go sue them. You could bring that product 303 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 7: to an independent lab. Okay, but I didn't get to 304 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 7: the secret sauce on them Big Mac. But they're saying 305 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 7: it's post. 306 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: Its thousand island dressing, isn't it? 307 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: I think so. But that's interesting. I suppose that has 308 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: to be true. Yeah, you can't actually have a secret 309 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: right at a giant, nationwide corporate restaurant. But nobody's ever done. 310 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't. 311 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: I don't care enough to ever go to the website 312 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: and look. Oh no, I don't care at all. I 313 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: shouldn't ever eat it again, my most my main thought. 314 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Well, it can't. 315 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 5: It doesn't need to be precise obviously. I mean, because 316 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: you get like KFC's seven herbs and spices, I don't 317 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 5: get to know precisely how much cloves and oregano or whatever. Yeah, okay, 318 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 5: all right, yeah, and so the secret sauce is just 319 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 5: thousand nine ud dressing, which in turn is just ketchup 320 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 5: and mayonnaise mayonnaise. Right, anyway, how much time do we have, Michael, 321 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. We haven't time to do anything so 322 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 5: confident here? 323 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: Oh we do. Okay. 324 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: So I've mentioned a couple of times Judy and I 325 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 5: are having a remodel done, and a fair amount of 326 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 5: it has to do with the back wall, okay, of 327 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 5: the house that kind of faces out into the weather 328 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 5: and everything, and we'd known there was some water penetration 329 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 5: in there. 330 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: You got kind of bulgy trim work there. Wait a minute, 331 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: is that this color? Did somebody paint over? 332 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 5: And so in opening the wall up, any contractor can 333 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 5: tell you open a house up, you never know what 334 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 5: you're gonna find. 335 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: There was so much rot in there that the new 336 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: plan as. 337 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 5: Of today today is yeah, we're coming inside your house 338 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 5: weeks ahead of schedule because they're gonna do outdoor stuff first, 339 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 5: the inside stuff. But no, we're coming in today. We're 340 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 5: gonna tear down the back well. First, we're gonna build 341 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: a new wall inside your home, temporary. Then we're gonna 342 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 5: tear down the back wall of your home. Then we're 343 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 5: gonna build a new back wall of your home, and 344 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 5: then we're going to tear down the new new temporary 345 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 5: back wall of your home. Yes, yes, sounds like a 346 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: lot of noise for a long time. Uh a poop show. Yes, indeed, 347 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: I'm looking into long term rentals. This is uh, I'm out, 348 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 5: goodbye home man. Oh and we got our daughter's cats 349 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 5: and they're looking around. They're hearing all this noise, and 350 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 5: my daggs nervous and I'm nervous. 351 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: It's no way to live. Boy. 352 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: The finding out that previous owners painted over a bunch 353 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: of rot. I've had that experience before. 354 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 5: Or in any contractor will tell you this. The crappy 355 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 5: job builders do in sealing stuff and calking stuff. 356 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: They don't care. They paper it over and say move in. 357 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: It's ready, armstrong and getty. 358 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: The reporting around the terrorist attack in Colorado is it's 359 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: odd to me that we're not focusing more on the 360 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 4: fact that this is I assume he's a Muslim dude. 361 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 4: I mean, based on his name, he's here illegally. I 362 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: mean he's yelling free Palestine as he sets Jewish supporters 363 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 4: on fire after nine to eleven. I mean, we were 364 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: so unguard about this sort of thing. Now we just hell, 365 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: you know, what are you gonna do? I don't understand, 366 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 4: but maybe we'll talk about that more later. Well, I 367 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: was gonna stay on air meeting. 368 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 5: I just asson dive into that and we can do 369 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 5: what we're gonna do in a few minutes, just because 370 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 5: this is so important and you're absolutely right. 371 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: It's a great point, and I think. 372 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 5: This is a measure of how successful the Hoole Woke 373 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 5: College campus victim oppressor narrative thing has been because they 374 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 5: have convinced people, whether witningly or kind of subconsciously, that, oh, 375 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 5: if it's like the Palestinians or Muslim people or something 376 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 5: like that, they're the victims, you remember, and you can't 377 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 5: really criticize them. And there's people have become uncomfortable with 378 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 5: what was acutely just obvious in the wake of nine 379 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 5: to eleven and the other terrorist attacks around the country 380 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 5: by Islamo fascists. 381 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: You how you got a guy name again, you got 382 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 4: a guy named Mohammad Sabri Solomon from Egypt. 383 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: He's here illegally and he said, you leave Jews out 384 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: of it. He set a bunch of Americans on fire. 385 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 4: So doesn't that fit into the whole Muslim extremist we 386 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: got to be on guard thing? Yes, one percent, of course, 387 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 4: Michael play thirty for us. 388 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 8: From my point of view, all of a sudden, I 389 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 8: felt the heat like it was a Molotov cocktail equivalent 390 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 8: a gas bomb in a glass jar. Throne of saw 391 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 8: it a big flame as high as a tree, and 392 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 8: all I saw was someone on fire. 393 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: And then next clip. 394 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 8: He had said some along the lines of I mean 395 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 8: f al Uzionists. 396 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: This is for killing my people, or you kill my people. 397 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: You guys should all die. 398 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, keeping in mind that Egypt this guy was an Egyptian, 399 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: won't take any Palestinian rights. 400 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: They don't want them. 401 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 5: Every country that's accepted large amounts of Palestinian large numbers 402 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 5: of Palestinian refugees has ended up with violence and revolution 403 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 5: in their country. So your Muslim Middle Eastern countries want 404 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 5: no part of that. This lunatic decided to set fire 405 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 5: to Americans. 406 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: He you know, you got the whole he was here 407 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: illegally thing. 408 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: How many people got into this country or have stayed 409 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 4: during this crazy period of time of mass immigration that 410 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: planned to do us ill? We will find out over time. 411 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: I suppose that's a horrifying thought. Oh yeah, yeah, the 412 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 4: number of Africans and Middle Easterners who came in that 413 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: particular list of gripes, you know, never mind the gang 414 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: members and everybody else. 415 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: It's just you could you can. 416 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: Employ the greatest speech writers known to man to write 417 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: you an eloquent description of how profound the betrayal of 418 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 4: our national security was by the Biden administration opening up 419 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: the border, and it would not be sufficient. It would 420 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: not be enough to accurately describe the horror of what 421 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 4: was allowed to happen, because it will unfold for years 422 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 4: and years and years. So now you got twice in 423 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 4: two weeks and three times in two months, somebody yell 424 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: in free Palestine. The one two months ago was when 425 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: they tried to burn down Governor Shapiro's house with his 426 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 4: family in it, and they luckily got out without anybody hurt. 427 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 4: But that was a free Palestine guy. Then you had 428 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: the murders of the diplomats two weeks ago. We know 429 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: that story that the couple that was going to get married, 430 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 4: and then this over the weekend. So at what point 431 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 4: does free Palestine become a phrase that is attached to 432 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: terrorism and then or the whole globalize the Intifada that 433 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: college kids get to chant scream at Jewish students as 434 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: they try to walk to class. This is globalizing the Intofada. 435 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: This is what it is. 436 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 5: Globalize the Intofada means killed Jews everywhere? Yeah, yeah, which 437 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 5: is happening in New York Times headline is live updates. 438 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 5: Colorado attacker is in US illegally, Homeland Security Department says, So. 439 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: The FBI calls it a terrorist attack. At least as 440 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 4: of this morning, the Boulder Police Department was not. They're saying, 441 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: we're still not comfortable calling it a terrors attack. 442 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: Do we do more? 443 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: Boulder is like Berkeley or any other super lefty city 444 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: in America, so they're not comfortable with that. 445 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: Of course. Unfreaking believable. 446 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 4: Now, if you've seen the video, the reason the guy 447 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: is shirtless is because he accidentally set himself on fire 448 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: with his flammable liquid his own shirt, so he had 449 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: to take his shirt off. But he's standing there rant 450 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: and raving about the Jews in Palestine and Gaza and 451 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: that sort of stuff as he douses people in flammable 452 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 4: liquid and sets him on fire. People were rolling on 453 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: the ground screaming. Several people. Nobody has died yet, or 454 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 4: it's been reported, even though the FBI indictment includes a 455 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 4: murder charge. Nobody's been poured it dead yet, but people 456 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: are near death. What a horrible way to go. Oh 457 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 4: my god. Four men and four women, ranging in age 458 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: from fifty two to eighty eight were hospitalized with injuries. 459 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 4: At least two of them flown by helicopter to a 460 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 4: burn unit in Denver. People were trying to but there 461 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: was no water available, so people were running to a 462 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: fountain that was near where the march was and filling 463 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 4: up whatever big cup they had or whatever, and running 464 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: back and trying to pourt on people. But obviously that's 465 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: a slow way to try to put out a fire. 466 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: And it's worth. 467 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 5: Pointing out that this walk that they have regularly, I 468 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 5: think it's weekly. This organization holds it's a walk to 469 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 5: free the hostages. 470 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: That's it. 471 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: It's not a defeat Hamas or down with the Palestinians 472 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 4: or up with Israel. It's just a please free the 473 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 4: hostages walk. This guy's attempt to burn a bunch of 474 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: people to death. Anyway, we are so slow to awake 475 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: in this country. 476 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: It's the other side of the coin. We were talking 477 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: last week. 478 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 5: It was actually a very good segment our four of 479 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 5: Friday's show about how why Americans misjudge Vladimir Putin over 480 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: and over and over again. It's because we're friendly, let's 481 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: do business, naive dopes globally speaking, and it's going to 482 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 5: take a while for us to wake up to the threat, 483 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 5: the threat among us and the threat we've created by 484 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 5: educating our kids to hate us. 485 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm sorry. 486 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 5: I don't want to go completely dark and negative, because 487 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 5: there's plenty of good. 488 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: News in the world. 489 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 4: I just well, you know what, we've been yelling about 490 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: this as it's unfolding, and now the birds are coming 491 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 4: home to roost. 492 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: Let's hope, you know, America wakes up in time. 493 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: Tangentially to this story would be the still hard to 494 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: figure out what's exactly going on with the attempted food 495 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: distributions in Gaza. Oh yeah, who keeps shooting firing off guns? 496 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 4: That's figuring out. Is Israeli soldiers trying to protect themselves 497 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: or they lost their minds or whatever it is, or 498 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: is it Hamas or whoever it is. But anyway, this 499 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: cartoon was making the rounds on social media yesterday. It 500 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: shows a newsroom with a news anchor and like a 501 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 4: producer running up and saying, normally we don't trust terror groups, 502 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: but what Hamas says, Israel did something terrible. We must 503 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 4: report it immediately without verification. Because every news organization has 504 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: been reporting, well not every but many of your mainstream 505 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 4: news organizations have been reporting that it's Israel firing on 506 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: the food distributions because that's. 507 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: What Hamas told them, right, Their source is Hamas. I mean, 508 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: how crazy is that? Yeah? 509 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 5: I know, I will read an account of what happened 510 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 5: and think this might be entirely true, entirely untrue, or 511 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 5: somewhere in between, and I have no way of knowing. 512 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: Turn the page. 513 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 4: Well, why would you ever even assume for a second that. 514 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: With Hamas as the source you're getting the actual story? 515 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: Well right? 516 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: And why in the world if you have any Well, 517 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 5: I know the answer to this question, but I'll go 518 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 5: ahead and ask it. Why in the world would you 519 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 5: as aquote unquote journalists not say Hamas authorities claim this, 520 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 5: it cannot be verified. Just write it like that if 521 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 5: you want to say what they claim. Well, it's because 522 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 5: we are reaping what we've sold. 523 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 4: These the people writing and editing those articles are the 524 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: graduates of Columbia Journalism School that we've been talking about 525 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: now for years. 526 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: They are now out among us. 527 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 5: The body snatchers have infiltrated the population. They're in the 528 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 5: nation's newsrooms, and they're they're living out their training. 529 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, so we got some interesting doings with dudes 530 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: competing in girls track and field and in a couple 531 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: of different ways to handle that situation. 532 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: You want girls standing up for themselves, that's right. You 533 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: want a good news. 534 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: You want to get your gender Bending Madness Update when 535 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: we come back. 536 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: I love that idea. 537 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: Fantastic you know, yo, yo, last week of school for 538 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: one kid. My other kid's going to do summer school 539 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 4: all year long. He's homeschooled. Long story, I'll tell you later, 540 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: But anyway, the older. 541 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 1: One is very excited. 542 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 5: Excellent happy summer to him and to youngsters everywhere. But 543 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 5: it's time for a gender Bending Madness Update. 544 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: So I kept hearing about this thing called. 545 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: By the loco. We're a Brave World. 546 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 4: Special GBM Pride Month Edition. Welcome to it, GBM. Oh 547 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 4: gender Bending Madness. 548 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, exactly. It's twenty first century. We don't have 549 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 5: to have time to say words. We just use acronyms, abbreviations, 550 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 5: we use parts of words. So anyway, let's start with 551 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 5: Jonathan Serri. This is in cal unit Coornia, Special Sports 552 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 5: edition of Gender Bending Madness Update. 553 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 9: More than fifteen hundred students competed over two days, but 554 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 9: the spotlight was firmly on just one. This one, sixteen 555 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 9: year old transgender athlete ab Hernandez, whose participation is spot 556 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 9: pro tests. From President Trump on down to parents of 557 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 9: girls competing against Hernandez, we. 558 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 10: Just need to stand up for these young ladies and 559 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 10: make sure that we're protecting their sports and protecting their 560 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 10: private spaces. 561 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: Roll On, Michael, roll On. 562 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 9: Hernandez placed first in both the high jump and triple jump. 563 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: In each case. 564 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 9: Under new California Interscholastic Federation rules introduced for this championship, 565 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 9: the athlete who placed second was promoted to joint first 566 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 9: alongside Hernandez and the podium. 567 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 1: As you see, there was shared. 568 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 9: None of the girls who competed against Hernandez appeared to 569 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 9: stage any sort of protest. 570 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: So the new rule in California is, yeah, you're in first, 571 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 5: and you're the second place person. 572 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: Since you're an actual girl, a, you're also in first. 573 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: What the hell? 574 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: It's madness. It's gender bending madness. Hell, so they're trying 575 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: to fix the whole. So you finished first high school 576 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: track meet for like qualifying for scholarships or in for 577 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: college or any of that stuff. Metals, trophies, et cetera. 578 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 4: Shir Yeah, wow. 579 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 5: Right, and because this eighty twenty issue and give me 580 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 5: five minutes, it would be a ninety three to seven issue. Seriously, 581 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 5: with that twenty percent it was boys in girls' sports, 582 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 5: it's sixty six to something like twenty five among Democrats friends, right. 583 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: So who's this four? 584 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: Well, the loudest activists on Twitter, the loudest leftist activists 585 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 4: exactly who happened to be you know? 586 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 5: Running rampant in California and also clip twenty eight In 587 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 5: Oregon and. 588 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 10: An Oregon, two female student athletes refused to take the 589 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 10: podium alongside a transgender athlete who had competed as a 590 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 10: boy in the past two years of their state championships 591 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 10: over the weekend. The two girls would eventually be asked 592 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 10: to leave the area by event official Wow. 593 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: Girls were asked to leave, not the dude. Oregon has 594 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 4: threatened to ban girls from competing for wearing t shirts 595 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 4: that say save girls sports. Oregon is diseased. It's a 596 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: wonderful place, but it's diseased. I'm surprised there hasn't been 597 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 4: a bigger pushback against us. I was talking about this 598 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: with somebody yesterday. How there haven't been like more dads 599 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 4: on a basketball court losing their minds, trying to rally 600 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: the crowd against letting a dude play, or like somebody 601 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: hasn't come along in stage to let's have our own. 602 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: High school championship over here. 603 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: You all do your thing, We're gonna do ours over here, 604 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: and everybody just goes over there and lets the girls 605 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: compete against girls, right, Yeah, I know this, I pray 606 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 4: will be a blip in our history. And as we've 607 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: said many times, years down the road, you'll try to 608 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: explain to people what happened. 609 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 5: They won't believe you. Wait a minute. They let boys 610 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 5: compete against the girls. Why now, Well, because they said 611 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 5: they were girls. Well, and they'd taken a couple of 612 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 5: hormones and we had a ponytail. 613 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: And if you protest, but they're still boysed, Grandpa, Yeah. 614 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: I know. 615 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: If you protested as a high school girl, they'd kick 616 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 4: you out of the event, but they'd let the boy 617 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 4: win your medals. 618 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: That's correct. I had to make you mad, Grandpa. 619 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 5: It sure did, son, it sure did. Anyway, moving along, 620 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 5: just absolute madness. I'm gonna summarize, excuse me, the study 621 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 5: because it's it's fairly long and involved. But this is 622 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 5: a studied done of Canadian inmates and offenders of various 623 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 5: sorts and the trends in offending among men, women, trans men, 624 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 5: and trans women. Now, if those terms like jack confuse you, 625 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 5: not that jack confuses you, but if those terms confuse 626 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 5: you like they confuse jack, there that's a much I'm 627 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 5: easily confused. Just you can think fake instead of trans 628 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 5: fake men, or fake women or new men and new women. 629 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 5: But anyway, what's really interesting about this this study is 630 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: that when it comes to sexual assault, well, like among 631 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 5: you know, homicide, it's it's more men as you might expect. 632 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 5: It's a shocking number of quote unquote trans women. Dudes 633 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 5: pretending to be women commit homicides, a fair number of 634 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 5: women and a lesser number of women who've become men. 635 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 5: Assault is kind of up and down. Robbery is you know, 636 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 5: no newly arrived men commit robbery because that implies force, 637 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 5: the threat of force or the use of force. 638 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 639 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 5: The number of trans women former well dodod's pretending to 640 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 5: be women is actually higher than any other group committing robberies, drugs, 641 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 5: it's very few. 642 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: But sexual assault, it's. 643 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 5: Only men and trans women meaning fake women. And in fact, 644 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 5: sexual assault is a huge percentage of the transgender fellas 645 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 5: behind bars. When it comes to testosterone and other hormones, aggression, 646 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 5: sexual aggression. 647 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: There is nobody, nobody, nobody. 648 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 5: Who's either a female or an actual female who's now 649 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 5: dressed up as a guy who does this. Percentage wise, 650 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 5: The idea that well, that's a trans woman, so that's 651 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 5: really a woman is belied by virtually every single statistic 652 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 5: from speed, strength, oxygen capacity, lung capacity, you know, heart rate, 653 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 5: blah blah blah, aggression, sexual assault. 654 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: Those are dudes. 655 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 5: Those are dudes in every meaningful regard. And the point 656 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 5: of this article is how outrageous it is that male 657 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 5: sex offenders who now present as women ought to be 658 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 5: in women's prisons because in terms of sexual offense, they're 659 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 5: absolutely dudes, and maybe even more prone to sexual offenses 660 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 5: than regular dudes. 661 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 4: It's a gender bending madness. Update Jack, that's the ending. 662 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 4: That is the ending, the whole track and field thing. 663 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 4: It's what's so weird about me? This to me is 664 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: it's such a tail wagging the dog situation. It's it's 665 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 4: a almost everybody wants it to stop, well, right, but 666 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 4: education and media, but especially education, education is going to 667 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 4: be The Japanese soldier still hiding in the jungle in 668 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty eight, thinking World War two is still going. 669 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: It's going to take forever to clean the madness out 670 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: of education. Wow. 671 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: Anyway, if you miss a segment of the show, we 672 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 4: do four hours every day. Get our podcast, Armstrong and 673 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 4: Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty