1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Ss uh. You know here through Jerry and Stephen and 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Mike and will Um and the scouts. You know, you know, 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: I guess going on about twenty years from me in 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: the NFL and seeing this process and what it looked 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: like from start to finish, I was certainly impressed by it. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: But that man, I'm excited to get wrong with you guys. 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: So let's let a rip. Man. What was your what 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: was your assessment of this defense after you took over, 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: and what do you feel you've been able to addraft 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: with this draft and what you've done in free agency? Yes, 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: And I think what I can tell you is, uh, 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, I just wanted to make sure from the 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: time I got here to you know, what it looked 14 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: like and what we could do and help, you know, 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: create an identity you know, from a defensive standpoint. Um, 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: you know that is about the ball and you know, 17 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: ball hawking and the speed and the physicality that we'd 18 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: like to play with. So UM, first order of business 19 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: was just obviously going through the team and through the 20 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: roster and just like you would do, you know, any year, 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: to make sure, um, you can feature the players in 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: the very best ways. And so whether it's through you know, 23 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: the current team, through free agency or through the draft. 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: That always thoughts, that's my responsibility to make sure I'm 25 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: clear with everybody about how we'd feature the guys and 26 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: find out what they do best. So I enjoyed that 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: very much, going through you know, all the games and 28 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: the players and getting a good assessment on where we're at. 29 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Did you consider it a remake or did you feel 30 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: there was a foundation in place and you just wanted 31 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: to change some things or what. Yeah, there always be 32 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: some change, you know, as you're looking to do things. 33 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: And so for me specifically, you know, I've been part 34 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: of the same system for a good long time myself, 35 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: both in Seattle and and Atlanta for for that time. 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: So um, I had some things that I wanted to 37 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: change as well. And so um, certainly a combination of 38 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: things the foundation that you know that has been here 39 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: as well as some new things that I wanted to 40 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: bring into it, and how we'd play in the style 41 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: that we'll do that. Well, I just from a system 42 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: scheme standpoint for three scheme gets the basis that you 43 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: got you to see, I will allow the well, I'd 44 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: say it's it's kind of a mixture you know, because 45 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: so much of the defense nowadays is played out of 46 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: a nickel front, So that's more of a four down 47 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: of where you'd play as far as in the base 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: packages go, it'll look more like a three or four look. 49 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: And that would have been consistent whether it was the 50 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: team last year or during my times in Atlanta as well. 51 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: But more often than not with most teams, you know, 52 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: the nickel packages which you know teams play, you know, 53 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: I'd say close to sixty or seventy percent of the 54 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: time are more out of four down. You've been a 55 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: coordinator or even as a head coach, the like size 56 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: the secondary. What does that do to your das I 57 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: think just you know, one, the length and you think 58 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: about you know, even in basketball, you know somebody has 59 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: to go out and defend, you know, to have that 60 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: length to go defend. And so whether it's at corner, 61 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, where you can play right down on the 62 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and make receivers have to go and release, 63 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: or if it's a safety or a lineback rest of guard. 64 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: You know, tight ends who have length. When you have length, 65 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: you can match some of that and h in the NFL, 66 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: so many of the matchups are created, you know, on 67 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: size or speed, So you want to have a roster 68 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: that has versatility, and I think that's one of the 69 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: things you know that I'd I really admire about Mike 70 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: and having the versatility of positions where you play more 71 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: than one thing. And so I've enjoyed, you know, like 72 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I said, this process of going through it with Stephen 73 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: and Jerry and Will and Mike talking about different roles 74 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: for players. And I think hopefully the next time that 75 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: I visit with everybody, I'll have a better sense of 76 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: where we're at and what we can do based on 77 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: my time on the field with them. But until then, uh, 78 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, we'll still be working it out because my 79 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: job is to make sure I can put the guys 80 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: in the best spots of the things that make them 81 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: all unique. And so I look forward to doing that 82 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: defensive all three better you signing that thirty four in 83 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: arms all three lilignement that you drafted and has a 84 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: few days have thirty boarding for a longer arms or 85 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: does that link to show up the light and self order? Yeah, 86 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: I think, Um, I think let's talk first with the 87 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: big guys in the run game, because when you get 88 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: a you know, a chance to lock somebody out. Now 89 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: you can create that separation to go, you know, and 90 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: defend and make a tackle. You know, a guy like 91 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: Brent Urban who has this ability you know, get somebody 92 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: locked out, or Carlos in that space. UM as a 93 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: pass rusher, obviously, who are you're going against our guys 94 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: who have some long arms. You know, certainly a tackled 95 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: and that's no um you know, big secret, but that 96 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: type of you know, hand to hand combat. You know, 97 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: when you have the length, you can do that. And 98 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: then out on the perimeter, whether you're at a linebacker 99 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: or safety, you know who has the ability to get 100 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: like I said, guard the big tight ends. So it 101 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: shows up in a lot of different ways. Um, sometimes 102 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: when you're you know, defending somebody in guarding a man 103 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: to man or other times in the run game to 104 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: lock them out, or the last part I would say, 105 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: in the pass rush, that ability to defeat somebody who 106 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: has long arms. So I think it shows up all over. 107 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: And the you know, the bigger, the faster, the longer 108 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: that we can play, the more aggressive we will be 109 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: because we'd like to play, certainly in a bold style. 110 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: So having guys with length and speed and the running 111 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: hit factor, that's a big part of it. What does 112 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: that mean for someone on the roster who was here 113 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: before you got here? That length, that is your phototype 114 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: of bold type of quality for a guy who thirty 115 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: one is sure for the two age or three or 116 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: what's what point? Did you draw a line and say 117 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: there's more to football, way more? Yeah, I think that's 118 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: very more than fair to say. Um, it's not one 119 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: size fits all. And what you're trying to do is find, 120 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: you know something unique that this player has. And so 121 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: it's one of the things I enjoy about scouting. When 122 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: you know we bring a player onto the team, I say, 123 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: this is the role I see for that person. That 124 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean every single guy has these certain specific traits, 125 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: but you do want to find as a coach, you 126 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: know what makes this player unique and what things can 127 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: he do as opposed to the things he can't do. 128 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: But having speed and length it helps. But by no 129 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: means is that. Uh, There's been plenty of good players 130 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: you guys have covered and I have coached that didn't 131 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: have the same length, But um, it does give you 132 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: a good basis to start. Yeah, both linebacker, you know 133 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: that's you know, where they've been and where they're going. 134 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: Oh you know what that's uh, you know, as we're 135 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: getting through it. Like I said, the next time we talk, 136 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: I'll have um, you know better uh, hopefully some better answers. 137 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: We've been on the field some together. But what I 138 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: can tell you is that both these guys are really 139 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: getting after it and putting in work to you know, 140 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: to have a fantastic year. So, um, we've added some 141 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: other linebackers as well, and so that's why, um, let's 142 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: get out and work together. You know, there'll be some 143 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: competition where we're going. But uh, one thing I do 144 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: know is both these guys are really good players. And 145 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: uh as opposed to oh where are they gonna go? 146 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: A is like, how awesome is that that we've got 147 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, more speed, more length, you know, more running 148 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: hit players. And to me as a coach, I couldn't 149 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: be more pumped for that. You've probat a Keen O'Neil 150 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: from from You're gonna use him. It's one of the 151 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: division from Michael Cars. Sure, yeah, you want to use it? Yeah, 152 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: And so um yeah, Kicki's a player I've known for 153 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: a long time and so adding somebody with his speed 154 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: and his physicality, you know, onto our defense. We just thought, 155 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's something that we need. And so the 156 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: same thing with Micah, you know, to have the ability 157 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: to add guys onto our defense that have that kind 158 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: of speed and physicality. Um, I'm really looking forward to 159 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: seeing the different packages and how we'll feature the guys, 160 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: and uh, it'll take us a while to figure all 161 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: that out, but having those types of guys, it makes 162 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: you want to have. Okay, here's some packages, here's how 163 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: we're going to use the guys. We're looking forward to 164 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: doing that. He will be a linebacker in ordnance that 165 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: to have a guy like him, and and Caz's here 166 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: as well, that they have background with you, so they 167 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: can kind of tell the players, Hey, this is what 168 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: he means, this is what it's Yeah, there's uh, you know, 169 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of like they can get help on the 170 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: communication that much quicker to make sure Nope, this is 171 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: what Q saying here, we can go right to this 172 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: spot and go to us. So having that ability, you know, 173 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: to kind of pass the message down the line. Um, 174 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: that's a big piece of it. But the reason they're 175 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: here is their football ability and adding to our team 176 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: and what they can bring. Both guys have had um 177 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: real experience as Ballhawks, you know, I think uh Kiki, 178 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: you know on the force fumbles side of things, Casey 179 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: on the interception side. So having that ability to bring 180 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: to the team that's first, that was paramount. But their ability, 181 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, to kind of pass the message of what 182 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking for. I think that's a big piece too. 183 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: We'd love to try to connect dots with with your history. 184 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: So when y'all draft a guy like Michael Parsons, the 185 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: names like names like Vic Beasley and reserve and get 186 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: thrown around, is that remotely accurate in terms of what 187 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: you think Micah can do? Having some pass Russians. You know, 188 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: I recognize the question. But I think when we get 189 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: to know each other more, you'll find out that I 190 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: don't like comparing a lot of players and for those 191 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: who kids like, which kid do you like better? And 192 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: talk about more? So it's a real disservice I think 193 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: at times to the young player, and I want Micah's 194 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: identity to be Micah, and I don't want him to say, 195 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: well he's like a Bobby or a Vic or this, 196 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, Like I just want him to be the 197 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: best version of him, and so he'll see plenty of 198 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: tape of players that I've coached at different spots. But 199 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: I think it's important for a player to you know, 200 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: develop their own identity and the unique stuff that they have, 201 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: because I think, you know, like this is a this 202 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: is their first you know, start into it. So as 203 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: we get to do each other better, you'll you'll know. Um, 204 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of comparing to players. Just 205 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: the reason I'm here today is having this opportunities that 206 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: had a chance to coach some really good players and 207 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: through my time, so I always have a lot of 208 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: respect for those guys. Yeah, it's one of the problems 209 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: that Cowboys had obviously defensively last year was stopping to run. 210 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: What do you feel like being able to do in 211 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: free agency hand to get this draft help solve this problem? Well, 212 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: I think when you you know, assess everything, you want 213 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: to make sure you know from an entire package that 214 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: you're you know, versal enough defensively to have different packages 215 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: and also for the different styles of offenses you play. 216 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: Just think of you know, our league today to guys 217 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: some who are wide open and spread it out to 218 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: some who will pack it in and run some options stuff. 219 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: The Baltimore is of the team. So you want to 220 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: have enough different players that you're versal enough to adapt 221 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: to any offensive scheme. Some are I'm playing three wide 222 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: receiver sets and some are going to play in you know, 223 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: two tight end sets. So having guys with different all 224 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: sets that's a big piece to me. And so adding 225 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: guys like we did up front with Watkins and Urban 226 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: who have that kind of you know, size to stand 227 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: in and go. And then the ability of you know, 228 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: adding guys like we did in the draft who've gotten 229 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, size and speed, um whatever style. You know, 230 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: a team that you're playing against, you want to be 231 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: versatile enough to be able to say, all right, this 232 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: is how we're going to match up and get it on. 233 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: Just what it is. We haven't had a chance to 234 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: talk to you for I was one is what is 235 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: maybe the most appealing thing about taking this job and 236 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: being that support of year. Obviously would had other opportunities, 237 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: but by its why the cowls I did, and uh, 238 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: the reason I certainly chose to come here was you know, 239 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: the whole package of it. You know, it's it's Jerry, 240 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: It's Steven, it's Mike, it's the defense. It's what I think, um, 241 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, the type of program and place that I'd 242 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: like to be a part of. So it really was 243 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: a no brainer for me when the opportunity, you know, 244 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: was presented to me to come and be a part 245 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: of this, and so I was very much looking forward 246 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: to it. And like I said, over the last couple 247 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: of months, I've been really impressed with the process of 248 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: how it's going. So I'm pumped to be here, man. 249 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: But it was the whole thing of it, you know, 250 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: why we think, you know, we can add to, you know, 251 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: to some of the things here. A lot about defense, 252 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: but outsiding isn't to have the offensive guys as well 253 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: as and those guys on that side of the ball 254 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: to make life easier than before. You all. Yeah, I 255 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: spoke earlier tonight about the process and I was impressed 256 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: by it. And I would have said the same thing 257 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: had we had eight offensive players selected. So I don't 258 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: want you to think I was coming in here and think, well, 259 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: you know, okay, good job. But having guys like Dak 260 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: and to see him develop into the leader he's become, 261 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: I think that goes a long way. You know, when 262 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: you have a style of player like that who's leading 263 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: in that way and the toughness m for a long 264 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: time having to go against you know, guys who are 265 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: part of this offensive line, Zeke. You know, there's some 266 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: guys that are tough to match up with, so to 267 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: team up with them that feels damn good. What do 268 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: you do in the couple three months but between it Atlanta, 269 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: when it ended there and so when you got here too, 270 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: well a lot, you know, because during that time I 271 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: wanted to do as big an after action on my 272 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: own self to make sure, um, you know what could 273 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: I learn from things that went well and things that 274 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: didn't go well? And so I wanted to kind of 275 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: do a three sixty on the whole process. First, you know, 276 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: from the scheme side, so that included you know, defensive 277 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: cut ups from two th thirteen to two thou twenty, 278 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: and that brought me into some of the system changes 279 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: that I wanted to implement on the next lap around. 280 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: I didn't want to just do a rinse and repeat, 281 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: and so that was a big piece of what I 282 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: wanted to do. The second part, you know, after the 283 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: scheme piece, to say, you know what other things can 284 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: I you know, develop from my own self to say 285 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: these are some things, uh that I also asked players, 286 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: I asked coaches a man, if there was a you know, 287 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: one thing that you'd like to see a I wanted 288 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: real feedback to say, you know, I want to like 289 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: right between the eyes, give me you know, your vision, 290 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: your truth. And so a lot of those conversations were 291 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: good and they've helped me already, you know, starting into 292 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: this job. So I did a lot, you know, to 293 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: try and make sure as the defensive coordinator, opportunities were 294 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: going to present themselves that I would have, you know, 295 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: be a better version of me as opposed to just 296 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: and right at the end of the season you're going 297 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: into the next lap and hey, this is the system, 298 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: that's how we're going to go. So it allowed me 299 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: some time to study teams, It allowed me to time 300 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: to study some offenses. And at the time it was 301 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: painful to go through, but I would say looking back now, 302 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: it was some of the most rewarding time because you 303 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: just don't get to generally do that type of deep 304 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: dive and background on yourself. If you know, season injured, 305 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: here usually your combine and then you go and So 306 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: for me, having those couple of months to reflect and 307 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: say what you like, what do you want to do better, 308 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: and now you can apply it, that was a pretty 309 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: cool time for me. Wouldn't recommend doing it, but I 310 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: would also say it was really valuable for me. What 311 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: was the best thing you've heard from somebody into critically 312 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: or complimentary? Yeah, I would, Well, like most of us, 313 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: you're probably looking for the critical things first, and don't 314 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: spread yourself too thin, you know, like a lot of us, 315 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I like solving problems, and I think 316 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: as a head coach you do that and I can 317 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: help with that, and I can help with that, and hey, 318 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: I can help with that, and so I just wanted 319 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: to make sure, like as I was heading into this 320 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: one man, just you know, the best thing you can 321 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: do is to help this crew in this group as 322 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: opposed to taking on too many things. Sometimes I think 323 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: when we spread ourselves tooth thins tooth thin and here 324 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: and here and here, then like, hey man, keep it 325 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: really tight. And the things that I know can impact 326 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: the most, obviously here is the defense. And so I 327 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: want to make sure just that's where my time and 328 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: my focus goes to a lot of times when it 329 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: came from a good place, I guess to try to 330 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: help and do the other things, but at the end 331 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: of it, I want to make sure, like, hey man, 332 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: just keep it right in the middle. You committed to 333 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: getting back in to the league right away versus or 334 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: were you just open to it or was there what 335 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: was your thought process there? Because some people like to 336 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: get away for a whole year. Yeah, yeah, right, I 337 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: that wasn't you know, an option for me, Like I 338 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: absolutely love what I do, and so you know, it 339 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be a matter of you take a 340 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: year off and come back to it. That that wasn't 341 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: the space I was in, maybe because I had those 342 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: couple of months to reflecting and dig deep on the 343 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: things that I wanted to, but it hadn't crossed my 344 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: mind not to um. I think what I learned the 345 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: most about my life is like I like to do 346 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: hardship with a group of people, and I like that 347 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: more than anything, and so standing right on it at 348 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: the games on the line thirty seconds left, like I 349 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: love that more than anything, and so not being a 350 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: part of that connection and being a part of the 351 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: team that was as hard as anything of being out 352 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: and so I love that more than anything. And that's 353 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: why I coach. I love teaching, but doing hard things 354 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: together man, and you went in when the game's right online, Like, 355 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: I love that more than anything, and so that's why 356 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: I do what I do. And I love, you know, 357 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: helping develop players. So it was never a you know, 358 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: something that I didn't want to continue to do. You 359 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: get guys to play hard for you, well, I think 360 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: one they play hard for each other, you know first, 361 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: and that's to me where it always comes down to. 362 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: You know, the guys that you play together and you 363 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: look back, you know, years later, it's like, man, I 364 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: covered kicks with that guy, I played defense with that guy. 365 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: Those are those connections and that's to me where sims 366 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: it's one thing to be close with their coach with me, 367 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: but that connection that they have together on the field 368 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: on those game days and playing so hard for another, 369 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: that's the accountability player to player that you look to. 370 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: So they don't want to let their teammate down, and 371 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: so like straining and going for it and their connection together. 372 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: To me, the best teams have been really good in 373 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: the locker room first because they just don't want to 374 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: let the dude right next to him down. The trap 375 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: is over. Now it's time to develop. There's a class 376 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: based on your experience. It's how important is the existing 377 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: locker room group that these guys are rejoining and kind 378 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: of looking to learn from to for that draft class 379 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: to regions full potential. Yeah, I think it's huge. And 380 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: one of the questions I generally would ask is what 381 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: would you have given as a rookie for someone to 382 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: tell you and take you under your wing, you know 383 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: when you first arrived here of you know, how is 384 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: this going to go down? What do we need to do? 385 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: And if you asked them, they'd say almost anything to 386 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: have that kind of support from one another. So, um, 387 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: this current group of guys are going to be playing 388 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: some you know, whether it's rookies or the new free 389 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: agents that are part of it. So I think it's 390 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: extremely important to have some player led leadership towards one another, 391 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: that same connection I was just talking about player to 392 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: player and how important that is. Those are built during 393 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: the times now where you do the workouts in camp 394 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: and at practice, So it's going to be a huge 395 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: part of it. Player leadership, your defense path or is 396 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: that something that as a newcomer, you need to wait 397 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: and see and hope for the best. Well, I think 398 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: you have to put some plans in place, um, but 399 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: I do think there's some excellent leaders here, you know, 400 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: we just you know, I spoke about Dac just a 401 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: moment ago. But I've certainly been impressed by a number 402 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: of the guys already that I've spoken with. But until 403 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: those interactions happen without the coaches, you know, like I'm 404 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: not part of those right now. And so seeing how 405 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: hard guys are working here, I was very impressed by that. 406 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: So just knowing how important it is, you can feel 407 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: it from them. You know they're intensity for it. The 408 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, we're putting in the system together and the 409 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: questions that come up like they're in it and you 410 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: can feel that. And so to me, that's a great 411 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: first step. And then now how much can they relentlessly 412 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: compete over the next six or seven weeks to put 413 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: this package together, to connect the collaboration, it's a big 414 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: part of it. Well, you know, just look eight guys 415 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: on defense. You know, we look at the size, big corners, 416 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: big guys. Does a dan Quinn draft how much in 417 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: the fact it's a Dallas Cowboys Draft. But you know 418 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: what I can tell you, And like I said, I 419 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: was glad with the process. I still would have been 420 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: happy if we came in here and they you know, 421 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: eight offensive players and three guys I was. I was 422 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: happy with the process. And it's just how you know, 423 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: the board fell. I'm sure the guys you probably visited 424 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: with them already. But having players with the skill sets 425 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: that now it's up to us, okay, to all the 426 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: unique things that a player has now you want to 427 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: put them in a position where they can utilize those things. 428 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to find out what some of 429 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: the superpowers are of what some of the guys have, 430 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: and then create them and put them in the roles 431 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: to have the responsibilities for that. Yes, I would say 432 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: that you were partner to fix the defense. It was 433 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: bad last year and they've spent a lot of resources 434 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: in free is to wrap to fix it defense. And 435 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: that's kind of want to say that that's all through. 436 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, tailored towards us playing being 437 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: the best versions of us. And I'm so pumped to 438 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: be a part of that. Like I said, what do 439 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: I like doing? Like doing things together as a group, 440 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: and so getting this whole defense connected, players to player, 441 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: coach to coach, coach to player, all of that, Um, 442 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: that's all part of my role. And uh, it's one 443 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: that I like a lot. And so I'm looking forward 444 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: to get these guys connected and having a common mindset 445 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: of how we want to play and what we want 446 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: to be about. And I hope when all of our 447 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: fans and friends and family watch us play like and 448 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: these guys they can get it on and they're they're 449 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: down for the long haul and the toughness, the speed, 450 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: the physicality shows up every time we go. Can you 451 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: tell fans to who they're getting in terms of you, 452 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: because there are different perceptions and you there's some things 453 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: that's a perception of he was the great defensive coordinator 454 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: that want a Super Bowl. Then there's fans and looking 455 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: you say as a guy that went to the Super 456 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: Bowl Hattalie couldn't get it done and stayed down with 457 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: the Falcons, and that he was a part of the 458 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: guy that was here with the Barton melon Kicks. So 459 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: who poor fans getting Dan question? Well, much like a player, 460 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: I guess I have to prove it. And what I 461 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: would say is um, you know what you can count 462 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: on from me as somebody that's you know, real specific 463 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: and how we're going to go about it and get 464 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: after it. And I'm very much looking forward to proving that. 465 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: The very best competitive moments in my life have come 466 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: from prove it moments, and like all competitors, I very 467 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: much enjoyed doing that. So I guess we'll have to 468 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: see what made you want to get into this business 469 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: at the beginning? Why why go down this path? You know, 470 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: when I first was coming up, I grew up in 471 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 1: New Jersey about you know, twenty miles west of Manhattan. 472 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to teach and coach, and that was, you know, 473 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: kind of the vision I had had for it. I loved, 474 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: you know, I played a bunch of sports, but I 475 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: wanted to teach and coach. I went to college. I 476 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: was an elementary head major, and then my very first job, 477 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, I was you got up a teaching certificate. 478 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: But then as I got into college, I thought, well, 479 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to take this further and you know, and 480 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: do it as a full time thing. And did that 481 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: in college for six years, and then when the opportunity 482 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: came to the NFL, I kind of thought, well, that's 483 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: you know, you know, the highest in our profession and 484 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: that we can get to is. I wanted to go 485 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: after it as hard as I could. I love the connection. 486 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: I love to teach. I love the competition. So it's 487 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: I guess all of those things wrapped up. I think 488 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: the first part of my job is teaching and then 489 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: developing a player to say, all right, this is where 490 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: we're at, and how do we get to this spot? 491 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of depths along the way, but 492 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: we're not going to skip one of the rungs to 493 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: get there, like man, We're gonna stay on the process 494 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: to get us there. But I guess, like at the end, 495 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: like I said, I loved doing things as with a 496 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: group together. But it's nice to know early in life 497 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: I found what I wanted to do and then, uh, 498 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, just I never had any other options. I said, 499 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: if I probably did something else, it would have been 500 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: in the military, probably for that same thing that I 501 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: was so much loved being a part of a team. 502 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: And so I think those would have been the two 503 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: things that would have let me up the most. It 504 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: was it tough you to do the three to sixty 505 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: look back on the scheme of part of two things 506 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: easy thing to do. No, it wasn't easy because I 507 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: didn't want just you know, all the things they keep doing, 508 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: what you're doing or you know that. So I wanted, 509 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: um I wanted real feedback, you know, like like most 510 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: competitors and players where they say like, hey, I want 511 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to get to the truth of 512 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: things that went well, and I wanted to get to 513 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: the truth of things of like, hey man, this could 514 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: have been done better and so otherwise, you know, some 515 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: of the pain of going through it wouldn't have been 516 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: worth it. And so I wanted to make sure like 517 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: that I learned from this and I grew from this, 518 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: and I could apply it to you know, to my 519 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: opportunity here in Dallas. And so I'm certainly glad that 520 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: I did do that. Like I said, it wasn't the 521 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: easiest process to go through, but um per damn sure 522 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: glad that I did it. And I can already tell 523 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: you it's made me a better coach just by having 524 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: that feedback. I've learned a lot from players through the years, 525 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: and I've been super fortunate to coach a lot of 526 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: good ones, and so looking back. I wanted to have 527 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: that type of interaction, you know, and that's also talking 528 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: to players that you may have cut or maybe even 529 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: a coach that you had to you know, move on from, 530 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: but having that kind of feedback that was super important 531 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: to me, and I really respect and appreciate, you know, 532 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: the people helping me on that big project. The best 533 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: leaders that you've been around, for the locker room leaders 534 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: as players, did they have? What were their actions that 535 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: you saw? I think number one like authenticity, and you've 536 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: got to be you know who you are, because you 537 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: can just step out there one day and then step back. 538 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: And so the very best leaders that I've been around 539 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: were ones that was like, man, you can count on 540 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: this to be the same today and tomorrow. And they 541 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: get close and connect with people. And so because as 542 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: a leader, you have to say, you know, some things 543 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: that can be uncomfortable, but you have to be willing 544 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: to say them. It doesn't mean you have to say 545 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: them in an uncomfortable way, but you got to be 546 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: able to say them. So I think the authenticity the 547 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: honesty that comes out, and whether you're a mentor or 548 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: a leader, you do have to give the feedback and 549 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: you have to walk that walk, you know, like you can't. Hey, 550 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: well I want to do this and you know, and 551 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: then you don't do it the very next day. So 552 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, relentlessly being consistent. I know 553 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: that's not a very sexy word, but it's really hard 554 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: to do. And most of the very good leaders I've 555 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: been around have had that. Dan bringing in, Jovid bringing 556 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: your deadline coach, Guys that already understand exactly what you 557 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: know that you don't have to coach the coaches right, 558 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: And I think, well, one, I think they're excellent teachers. 559 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things I look for, um, 560 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, as a coach to say, I want to 561 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: be part of a developmental staff meeting. We're going to 562 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: take every single player as far as we can. And 563 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: both Joe and Aden had those you know attributes going in. 564 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: I've seen it firsthand, uh, you know, taking somebody from 565 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: step one all the way you know until where we 566 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: want to get Tom. And then there were some excellent 567 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: coaches that were here, and so you know, I was fortunate, 568 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: you know to know and get to visit with the 569 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: guys that were here. And so, you know, a guy 570 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: like George and you know, Al Harris or Kat you know, 571 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: the guys that were here and having a chance to 572 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: to merge that group, and that was a big piece 573 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: of it. But I would say they also understand, like 574 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: we had talked about with the players, you know, behind 575 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: the scenes, hey, this is what Dan may mean on this. 576 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: And so like most relationships, it takes, you know, some 577 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: time to get going. The first couple of meetings it 578 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: was slow. So okay, man, like sitting on our hands, 579 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: that's not going to be the answer here. So like, 580 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: let's push it and force it. And we've had excellent 581 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: dialogue conversations. There's a big background, think about one hundred 582 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: and fifty years of experience on the defensive staff, and 583 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: so I wanted to dig into that and find it 584 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: because it wasn't gonna be just one way that we 585 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: do it. And so this offseason putting this package together, 586 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: it's been a good collaboration and Mike's been a part 587 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: of that as well. You know, I wanted to hear 588 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: his insight and what was hard from the quarterback's viewpoint, 589 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think I've ever had that on the 590 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: defensive side putting the package together, and so you can 591 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: imagine what an advantage that is for me to say, 592 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: does this make a difference to this? No, but this 593 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: would Okay, that's now in so I am looking forward to, 594 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: you know, putting this whole thing together. You know what, man, 595 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: I've learned, you know, be where your feet are. And 596 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: in the past, I've maybe even as I was a 597 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: D line coach, I was chasing. I just wanted to 598 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: be a dcord. And I've been a D line coach 599 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL and or as a defensive cord now 600 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: just like I've had way more fun and way more 601 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: success when I was just trying to crush it where 602 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: I was and having a blast. So where I'm at 603 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: right now, I'm enjoying it and just honestly just want 604 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: to be right where my feet are and kicking ass 605 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: and having a blast with this crew and this team 606 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: and this organization. We've heard full clarity talking about your 607 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: energy and as a teacher, how hands on are you 608 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: as a teacher and a defensive for their kind of 609 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: trying to tea a lot of that here. No, And 610 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: it probably goes back to like why I want to 611 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: you know so badly? Why didn't I not want to sell? 612 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: Because the time on the field, you know, that's the 613 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: best part of the week for me. You know, in 614 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: the preparation phase, I like teaching the classroom, but on 615 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: the field work, in the drill work, that part is 616 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: um Uh, it's priceless for me because you can give 617 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: instant feedback to somebody to about their technique, about where 618 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: they're at and having that energy. Man, that's the best. 619 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: So I love being hands on with the guys. Um. 620 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: I'll be involved in the drill work with them, but 621 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: I want to feel them, I want to know them, 622 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: and uh it's the only way I can do that 623 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: is to build those relationships with them and spend some 624 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: time with them. That's in meetings, that's you know, out 625 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: on the field, it's in the locker room, it's everywhere. 626 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: And so um, I haven't been able to do that yet, 627 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, because of the you know, where we're at. 628 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: So um. You know, speed dating online isn't isn't all 629 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: it's cracked up to be, you know. So uh, the 630 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: best part of coaching is really you know, for me anyway, 631 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: is these connections and uh, they're lifelong with players, and 632 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: so I still keep up with guys that I coached 633 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: um in the nineties and the two thousands and last year. 634 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: So um, I enjoy that a lot, and so I'm 635 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: looking forward to building some relationships with the guys here, 636 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: with the coaches. And then you talked to Fosteril and 637 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: all about the Watermeloo kid. Uh. It was playing uh 638 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: when I first got here, and then then Zeke ran 639 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: over one guy and I was like, hey man, we 640 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: take this game off, you know, like like I'm walking 641 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: down the hallway and I'm like, in this part of 642 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: the reason I'm here, you know. So I was like, so, um, yeah, 643 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: what I just it was honestly a fan fantastic you know, 644 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: kick by the guy and so um. But no, we 645 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of you know, conversation about it. 646 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: You tind to spend more time in defensive line through 647 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: just getting her background. Yeah, no, that's where um I 648 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: think you always want to have, you know, the where 649 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: can you make the most impact And so for me 650 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: in my background, um, that's the spot. And so I 651 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: look forward to doing that party, structuring your time on there, 652 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: meaning in the meetings, pay earlier, going to be on 653 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: the field and the individuals or whatever. Yeah, Um, I'll 654 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: be in a number of you know, different spots spend 655 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: on the day or the emphasis of that day or 656 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: the things that we're trying to hit on. So um, 657 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: meeting wise now and in all three position groups. Just 658 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, this day, I'm working on this, and you know, 659 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: the night before I'll discuss. Hey, I'm gonna be in 660 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: the first ten on this part. I'd like to hit 661 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: on this, and then a Joe, I'm going to come 662 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: into the DBS when you get to this spot. And 663 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: so because those meetings are online, so it's pretty easy 664 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: to structure which parts you want to be a part 665 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: of at the moment. But um, I'd do some meetings 666 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: with the overall group and then they split up you 667 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: know from there. So Um, there's a lot of ways 668 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: that I'm doing on the field, It'll be a little 669 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: bit of the same. There'll be days I'll be with 670 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: the d line, other times I'll be you know, with 671 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: the DBS. So it just depends. It's it's also how 672 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: I get connected with the guys Billy told him for 673 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: the new line for a little bit. Yeah, the tackle 674 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: also from UCLA and a big middle tackle from uh yep, 675 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: so um got so uh with osa Um, we really 676 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: see him impact in the team as a nickel defensive tackle, 677 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: and we want to really push him as a rusher 678 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: and uh, he's got the traits and the speed to 679 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: do that, and so that's what his you know, primary 680 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: you know spot will be. But like I said, I'm 681 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: hopeful I'll have more answers you know, the next time 682 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: we talk out in California, so that the next time 683 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: Rich yeah, uh yeah. And then uh with with Quentin 684 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: um uh, you know, we're gonna put him out on 685 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: the edge as much as I'm just kidding. He's gonna 686 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: be right over the center sometimes here, other times right there. 687 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: But he's a big guy. He's got great length, he 688 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: can really bend and so he's a nose tackle. So 689 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: different spots for those two players. And like all the 690 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: guys is, I'm clear on their roles and what they 691 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 1: can do, and now it's up to us to get 692 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: them to do that spot over and over and over again. 693 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: That's how you get good at it. All Right, you 694 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: guys have a go, do you spend a time with 695 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: you Scot's gonna be