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Speaker 1: the supernatural and the unexplained. Getting ready now for Shades

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Schamplain. Welcome to our podcast.

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Speaker 1: do your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 1: on a journey to prove the exist stance of life

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Speaker 1: after death. On each episode, will discuss the reasons we

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Speaker 1: now know that our loved ones have survived physical death

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Speaker 1: and so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.

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Speaker 1: Back in two thousand and fourteen, I had an extraordinary

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Speaker 1: opportunity to interview Melon Thomas Benedict. Now he has passed

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Speaker 1: to the spirit world in two thousand and seventeen, but

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Speaker 1: I just had this gut instinct today that it would

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Speaker 1: be a good day to share his words with you.

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Speaker 1: He is someone who has had a near death experience,

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Speaker 1: and after he went on to creating all kinds of

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Speaker 1: and musical instruments and laboratory equipment. And he was also

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Speaker 1: a researcher and inventor in the field of quantum biology. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: just an extraordinary near death experience. I'm sorry that we're

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Speaker 1: had lost him, but I know the spirit world gained him,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really thankful that I can share this conversation

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Speaker 1: with you, So let's listen. I've had an eclectic kind

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Speaker 1: of career. UM. I spent seven years right after high school. UM,

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Speaker 1: I went right into filmmaking. So I had about seven

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Speaker 1: And then after seven years of living in hotel rooms

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Speaker 1: me hollow about it, and so I left the industry

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Speaker 1: and became started apprenticing and became a stained glass artist

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Speaker 1: already started, um, you know, going out and doing these

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Speaker 1: with inventions ever since my near death experience and late eighties,

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Speaker 1: do you know, strange things. So let's go back, because

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Speaker 1: now I'm dying to know. You had an illness of

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Speaker 1: I was diagnosed with the form of actual terminal brain cancer.

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Speaker 1: pretty much creates an atheist right there for for the

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Speaker 1: or necessary. If you're God almighty, all yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: what's this just point with us? So I asked to

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Speaker 1: light that question, why is humanity so dark and doomed?

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Speaker 1: At that moment, the light turned in kind of a mandala.

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Speaker 1: You know, people don't know what mandalas are. It's almost

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Speaker 1: another way in the West is it's almost like those

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Speaker 1: big round stained glass windows and cathedrals. And this pndala

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Speaker 1: was alive, and I was taken into the center of it,

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Speaker 1: like the center of this matrix. And it seemed as

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Speaker 1: if I was allowed to look into every human soul

436
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Speaker 1: that had ever been, including my own, and I could

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Speaker 1: see no darkness muchsoever in our core essence, in our soul.

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Speaker 1: No human that's ever been on this planet has ever

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Speaker 1: darkened the soul, no matter what they've done outside in

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Speaker 1: the world. And I also learned that you can't be

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Speaker 1: cut off from this, you cannot be disconnect. You can

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Speaker 1: thank you are, you can forget about it, but you

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Speaker 1: can never lose it. That changed me. And when I

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Speaker 1: when I really got the revelation, and I was like

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Speaker 1: odd that the light said to me, oh, beautiful human,

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Speaker 1: And then I knew we were loved. We're really loved.

447
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Speaker 1: You know, in our core essence can never be tainted.

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Speaker 1: And some people don't like to hear this, but even

449
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Speaker 1: the worst person in the world has a pure soul.

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Speaker 1: Think of me Hitler right in my head, right right,

451
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Speaker 1: people like that. But but at the core essence, this

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Speaker 1: is all good. It's the saving grace of the world.

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Speaker 1: Is our our core essences produce mostly good and gentle

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Speaker 1: and caring people, not pittlers. And and so that just

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Speaker 1: changed my whole mind right there about the world and everything,

456
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Speaker 1: feeling that and seeing that for myself, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I asked other questions, like the silly stuff reincarnation, you know,

458
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Speaker 1: while we're at it, what about reincarnation seems so silly?

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Speaker 1: And the Light explained to me that many of the

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Speaker 1: spiritual explanations of it are a bit weak and flimsy.

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Speaker 1: But it's more real than even most spiritual people imagine.

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Speaker 1: It's so real that it's involved in quantum physics, it's

463
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Speaker 1: involved in your core being. And the Light told me

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Speaker 1: that the number one thing in the universe does is reincarnate.

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Speaker 1: Everything reincarnates all the time. When stars die, they create

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Speaker 1: new stars. There are multiple levels of reincarnation. You know.

467
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Speaker 1: It's very interesting. You know that when you have a child,

468
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Speaker 1: you're biologically reincarnating. That's a form of reincarnation. Uh, your

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Speaker 1: ideas can reincarnate. You definitely, your your soul lessons reincarnates.

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Speaker 1: It's the one thing the universe does all the times,

471
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Speaker 1: reincarnate and regenerate. Energy doesn't die, it just goes through transitions.

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Speaker 1: So I think of a log that burns and changes

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Speaker 1: form to heat, or a puddle that drives on a

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Speaker 1: beautiful sunshiny day, it turns to vapor and maybecome a

475
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Speaker 1: cloud and then come down as rain. Yeah, you know,

476
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Speaker 1: I really got a good lesson and have many lessons

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Speaker 1: since then. On reincarnation from a practical point of view,

478
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Speaker 1: had a sort of religious point of view. I call

479
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Speaker 1: it practical reincarnation. So you know, there there came a

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Speaker 1: point where my life review or my questions were over.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't think of any more questions, and the light

482
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Speaker 1: asked me, but what was your first question? And of

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Speaker 1: course the light knows me. I understood immediately. Want that

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Speaker 1: meant that meant there's a time when we're young that

485
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Speaker 1: we ask our first serious question about the university. Maybe

486
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Speaker 1: you know why this guy is blue? Or Mommy, how

487
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Speaker 1: did I get here? You know that kind of question

488
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Speaker 1: where you're looking out for the first time outside of

489
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Speaker 1: yourself and oddly enough, and I think it's from being

490
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Speaker 1: in a Catholic boarding school from the first grade. On

491
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Speaker 1: hell for eternity, I did CONTENTT like deep subjects like eternity.

492
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Speaker 1: You know, how long is that in time? I like

493
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Speaker 1: why Woody Allen said the attorney is a long time,

494
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Speaker 1: except right at the end of ye so um. My

495
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: first question, oddly enough, that I had stuck in my

496
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Speaker 1: head till I hit puberty ever since I was in

497
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Speaker 1: like early grades of boarding school, thinking about eternity and

498
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Speaker 1: heaven and hell and all that stuff. My first question was,

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Speaker 1: I wondered, why we have to die at all? You know,

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Speaker 1: why do we grow old and die? That just seems silly.

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Speaker 1: If you're you know, if you're almighty, all powerful, what's

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Speaker 1: all this about? So I asked, I went, oh my,

503
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, So I asked the light, why do we

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Speaker 1: grow old and die? I think this is the perfect

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Speaker 1: time to take the break, and then we'll hear Melon's answer,

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Speaker 1: and we'll also find out about his miracle healing and

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00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: what happened after that. So we'll be back in just

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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast a m dot com. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain and we are

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Speaker 1: listening to the late Melon Thomas Benedict talk about his

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Speaker 1: near death experience that he went from death's or to

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Speaker 1: recuperating back in nineteen eighty two. Let's listen. So I

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Speaker 1: asked the light, why do we grow old and die?

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Speaker 1: Then two figures? You know, people asked me if I

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Speaker 1: saw any relatives on the other side, and I usually

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Speaker 1: tell him. Had I seen any I probably wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: talked to them, you know, but excuse me, that's why

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Speaker 1: I didn't see him. Yeah, right, I wasn't. I wasn't interested,

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00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, is that kind of a fragmented family. So

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Speaker 1: two lights to columns of light appeared, and out of

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Speaker 1: the right column came looked like a strange, small, maybe

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Speaker 1: guy from India. I heard the word den Shaw, and

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Speaker 1: later I found out that was Dinshaw Garret Dally, who

543
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Speaker 1: was the first modern scientific person who started healing people

544
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Speaker 1: with lights back in the nineteen name in your near

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Speaker 1: death experience. Yeah, I heard the word den Shaw and

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Speaker 1: you know, after my near death experience, kind of trying

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Speaker 1: to look all that up. He was the first scientific

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00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: or some to cure people with light, and then the

549
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: first really uh scientific professional machines to do it, you know,

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00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: light projectors. But he hadn't to come along at the

551
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: time he was getting wider reputation when a new upstart

552
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: organization called f d A picked him as a snake

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00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: oil salesman and persecuted him pretty pretty hard and heavy.

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Speaker 1: Then when he was finished downloading all of his information

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Speaker 1: to me, and it was like it was being written

556
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Speaker 1: in golden letters in my brain. It felt like, you know,

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Speaker 1: inside me. Then the column on the left opened up

558
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Speaker 1: and a short, portly guy with the biret, you know,

559
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Speaker 1: some kind of funny mustache, stepped out and he started.

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Speaker 1: He was very excited. He started immediately educating me about starlight.

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Speaker 1: And I later found out through PMH Atwater, who's a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine who kind of discovered me in the

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Speaker 1: back waters. You know, she was actually the first near

564
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Speaker 1: death or ever met because I didn't know any near deaths.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know the word basically until I attended

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Speaker 1: a lecture of pm H at Wars and that's when

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Speaker 1: I went, oh, yeah, I mean maybe maybe that's what

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Speaker 1: I I had no reference point. Excuse me and get

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Speaker 1: a drink of water here. I'm thrilled to be listening

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00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: because so many of the concepts and questions and things

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Speaker 1: that you're saying. While I'm excited and interested, it takes

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Speaker 1: a little bit from my mind to kind of get

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Speaker 1: around what it is you're saying and put it together

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Speaker 1: and it's it's well, I was taking me thirty years,

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Speaker 1: taking me about thirty years to really drock it myself

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Speaker 1: because I'm someone who got much of an education. But

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Speaker 1: it's like I got a scholarship to this great school.

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00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: You know, I've been I've been going to school ever since.

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Speaker 1: So this short, portly guy with a beret start educating

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Speaker 1: me about starlight and electrons and protrons and it was

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Speaker 1: very excited. And then he started drawing the stuff to

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Speaker 1: show me and it was turned out to be Later

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Speaker 1: I found out fractal geometry. But who was drawing it

584
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Speaker 1: for me? And it was telling me that fractal geometry

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Speaker 1: was the mathematics of God and if you really understood it,

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Speaker 1: you could trace your past lives, your future lives, all

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Speaker 1: your patterns are in there. And you know, fractal geometry

588
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: is one of the main sciences today, from entertainment to science. Um,

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00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: it's a huge But so it turned out, and it

590
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: was PMH Atwater that figured this out for me. I

591
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: couldn't really figure out the guy. She says, you know,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like Walter Russell of the Universe, of the

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Speaker 1: University of Light. He showed me a picture. I said,

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Speaker 1: that's the guy. That's the guy, because I didn't even

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Speaker 1: get a name for him. And that's the guy. And

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Speaker 1: then she took she took me at this want to

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Speaker 1: know you know his former Yes, yes, yes, I said,

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Speaker 1: Oh I saw his bust and everything, and I said,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the guy. That's incredible. I've I've read most

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Speaker 1: of his books and fascinated him. Yeah, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: a part of that group now and UM have channel

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Speaker 1: Walter a number of times for things. So he was

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Speaker 1: so busy showing me all this stuff and it was

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Speaker 1: like indelible in my mind or whatever. And uh so

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Speaker 1: that ended and it was time for me to come back.

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Speaker 1: And because by then I understood and believed in reincarnation,

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Speaker 1: I said, I really got it. You know, it makes

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Speaker 1: sense to me. Now. I felt I was heavier, and

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00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: that's what I call gravity pulling me back. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: told to go back. I was never I was never discussed,

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Speaker 1: and I just knew we already incarnated. So when I

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Speaker 1: started feeling heavy and I was done with the light,

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Speaker 1: it was like I was falling back. And I really

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Speaker 1: thought I was going to start a brand new incarnation.

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Speaker 1: Actually I was very happy for it. Oh great, you know,

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Speaker 1: and get a brand new start. But I ended up

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Speaker 1: right back in my same body. It seems like about

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Speaker 1: with no time gap in my consciousness. So later, you know,

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Speaker 1: days and days later, I would have these visions and

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Speaker 1: I'd go a lot of burn. I thought I was

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Speaker 1: going to get a new life, and here I am

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Speaker 1: back in the same body about the second I left off,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I know i'd I learned a lesson.

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Speaker 1: You can't get greatly? Did you start getting better? I

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00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: mean I can't help but think. I mean it sounded like, well,

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Speaker 1: well I did. The first week or two was very strange,

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Speaker 1: especially the first week I was. I was very multidimensional.

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Speaker 1: I actually didn't know if I was here there really

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Speaker 1: And I had the strangest conversation with my caretaker, who

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Speaker 1: would uh. I'd be in a chair and she'd walk by,

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Speaker 1: like a like a dream and I'd say, am I

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Speaker 1: alive and my live? And she would look at me

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Speaker 1: and say, you were dead? You were dead? I know

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Speaker 1: you were dead. She was a very nice, unpreachy, genuine Christian,

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Speaker 1: and it just complete this whole thing completely unnerved her.

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Speaker 1: It just really rocked her world l online. And then

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Speaker 1: I started, you know, I did start recovering, and then

638
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: finally had doctors checked me and I kicked out of hospice.

639
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: You know. Wow, that's and I didn't get tested two

640
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: months and months later because all the people were recommending

641
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to know. Whatever time I've got left,

642
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to worry. I'm gonna I'm being different

643
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: when I never felt. And I've got a good picture

644
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: of everything for myself to be in this world. I've

645
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: lived about twice the life I should have. You know,

646
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I would have without that near death experience. But I'm

647
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: one of these people that decided not to do any

648
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: treatments at all. I just fell through the cracks. And

649
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: there are many people to do that, by the way.

650
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: So I was tested months later. I remember the doctor

651
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: putting up the scan of slide and he said, oh,

652
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: this is interesting, and I got chills up my backs.

653
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: I oh, no, here we go again. That's what I thought. Said.

654
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I said, here's your cancer, and no, one we just

655
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: took it's not there at all. There's no traces whatsoever.

656
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: And he said that if we've done surgery or radiation,

657
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: you'd always see the damage there from the surgery or

658
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: the radiation. It would always show up in every X

659
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: ray or slide you know you ever did. And I

660
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: blurted out, it's a miracle, and he said no, no,

661
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: we call these spontaneous remissions. And I said, good enough

662
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: for me. But when he said that, I said, well,

663
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Because I didn't even know what

664
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: it meant. And he explained to me that in medical records,

665
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: documented medical records, and every known human condition, there have

666
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: been remissions but spontaneously from adults growing new teeth, ms,

667
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: people suddenly not having MSS, a blind person getting hit

668
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: by lightning and seeing again, as you name it, you know.

669
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: And that triggered me to the course I've been on

670
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: ever since to this day, and that was I believe

671
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: that miracles have a physical component. If it happens in flesh,

672
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: there's a mechanism, there's the way it happened. It's not

673
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: hopus focus is not magic. So I started looking at

674
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: what I called the physics of miracles. And my idea

675
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: was if we could understand is, maybe we could help

676
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: people truger spontaneous remissions. That was always my goal, you

677
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: see what I mean, because because we had plenty of

678
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: evidence it happens, you know. So he put me on

679
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: that course and I've been on that ever since. I

680
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: was very lucky to get funding and things. You know.

681
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: A few years later, somebody listened to me and validated

682
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: me with a world famous scientists and said, I know

683
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: what this guy is talking about, you know, And I

684
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: was actually talking quantum biology and didn't know what. Quantum

685
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: biology is the cutting edge of science today, as biophysics,

686
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: as a cutting edge of physics. State biology is going

687
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: to be the biggest thing ever over just chemist, you

688
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing, Melan. I just have to

689
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: tell you our time is going by fast, and it's

690
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: breaking my heart because I'm thinking, well, like can this

691
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: be a two hour show? And can we can do

692
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: a part two? But if you don't mind, because there's

693
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: no question in my heart of hearts that I'm going

694
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: to stay connected with you and dig and dig and

695
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: dig and find out some more of the things that

696
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: you know and you've learned to be able to share that.

697
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: But when you brought up Walter Russell, and and for

698
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: our listeners who don't know, Walter Russell did so much

699
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: in one lifetime and so many different fields, and he

700
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: would tap into himself and I forgot the words, but

701
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean he could do great poetry and art and

702
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: just so many different things in one lifetime. And when

703
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: I read your bio melan with everything that you've done,

704
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy is another Walter Russell. That's exactly

705
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: what I said and to myself. And so can you

706
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about when you came back and

707
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: getting into inventions And I know this is a broad question,

708
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: but like you're still tapped into the light and you're

709
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: just a man of miracles, I think. I mean, you're incredible. Well,

710
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: thank you for me. It's always been very clear and fearless. Um.

711
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: This is why you know. I actually documented for helping

712
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: the code genetic disease at a university and things like that.

713
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: But I don't go in with any pretension and I

714
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: don't go into these projects with any investment in my eve.

715
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: I really don't. Either it either happens or it doesn't,

716
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, And usually usually it's happened with very useful

717
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: information for I think tanks and corporations and things over

718
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: the years. But I go in just clear and I

719
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: just give it a shot. But what we learned over

720
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: the years and working with a lot of people, and

721
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: the other thing that ken Ring discovered was that until

722
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: he met me, he never met a near death or

723
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: that goes back to the light of Will every day.

724
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: In fact, I go back every day, and I can

725
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: go back for ideas, think tanks or other things. So

726
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: he's set up an experiment at the University of Texas

727
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: that really kind of put me on the map. You know.

728
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: They really tested me, and I was able to retrieve

729
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: information I would have no knowledge or experience or training

730
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: them that was accurate and useful, you know. So, so

731
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: that was in I go back to the light at

732
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Will and a lot of people ask me, how do

733
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: you do that? Well, I say, it's one of these

734
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: things like music. You can learn it. I don't know

735
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: if you can if it can be taught, but you

736
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: can learn it, like studying with a shaman or something.

737
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: But it's not it's not an intellectual process. It's an

738
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: emotional The best thing you can do to get through

739
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: the lights have an emotional connection to it. And I

740
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: never forgot that first moment of being with the light,

741
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, the feeling it's like whoa.

742
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: I never forgot that and that still makes gives me

743
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: like a comb to lean me effect up my neck

744
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: every time I even think about it, you know. So

745
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: I get this this rush, and uh so I came

746
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: out of this whole thing with no fear of death,

747
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: which I don't want to suffer. But although I lost,

748
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: Although I lost the fear of death, and I know

749
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: we're going to live many many lives to come. What

750
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: I did do was I respected life and so um

751
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: before my near death experience. I was a rock climber,

752
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: a skydiver and other things, and I stopped all of

753
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: that in respect for life because I want to live

754
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: a long, useful life and do planet work. So why

755
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: throw myself to have an airplane or climb rocks. You

756
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: know you've got a lot to give ways of making

757
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: a difference. So it changed me in that way. I've

758
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: never put out my own book because the light told

759
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: me not to so my book, but to give it away,

760
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: and that's what I've done. We're going to take our

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Speaker 1: last break in here. Thoughts from a Mellion Thomas Benedict,

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Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we're

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Speaker 1: listening to a recording I did with the late Melan

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Speaker 1: Thomas Benedict, who had had a near death experience. And

811
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Speaker 1: if you're willing to stay till the end of the episode,

812
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you a little bit about

813
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: a man named Walter Russell. We have referred to him

814
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: in this episode, but he's someone who had a very

815
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: divine occurrence while being fully alive, and then he went

816
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: on to produce many, many things in all different kinds

817
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: of fields and did so much in one lifetime. So

818
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in sharing this cosmic consciousness and can

819
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: we all tap into it even if we don't have

820
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: a near death experience. So next I had asked Melan

821
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: about what his thoughts were as far as healing, because

822
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: as much as we may try for a healing and

823
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: there are spontaneous healings, not everybody heals and someday we're

824
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: all going to pass. So here's what he said, Well,

825
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: it depends on what you really believe in. A lot

826
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: of people never got to know themselves what they really

827
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: believe inside. And I get hospice work for a while,

828
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 1: and I also counsel terminal people also over the many

829
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: years and trying to give them this insight. A lot

830
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: of people just haven't gotten to know themselves because that's

831
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: not what we do in this culture, and that's not

832
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: what they teach us to do. There may be a

833
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: believe in there that's triggering all this, and at the

834
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: leave isn't cleared, then you know you suffered the consequences

835
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: of it. So the other thing, too, is is that

836
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: the first thing I asked them is you know, I

837
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: tell you talking about it, there is no death. That's

838
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: why I try to teach me incarnation. But there is

839
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: no death. There's many mansions for us and many lives,

840
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: and I try to get him into that mode. But

841
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: also I have to ask them the question, just honestly

842
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: and genuinely, you know, let's go deep here. Do you

843
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: want to live or is this incarnation finished? Because you know,

844
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: and you'd be surprised me with people. They've been people

845
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: who have gotten great relief by going, oh yeah, I'm

846
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: finished with this incarnation. No, I'm done. Then you just

847
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: want to go out peaceably. Now. On the other hand,

848
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: people that really want to live. I say, well, it's

849
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Speaker 1: a miracle time. It's miracle time now the the universe.

850
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: You know, everything the universe is supposed to be impossible.

851
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: You know, the entire universe is impossible. So we're living

852
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: in a huge miracle and we're part of this miracle.

853
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: And what the Light has told me is that why

854
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: people don't see that many miracles in the modern world

855
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: is that you've got to take the time and make

856
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: the space for a miracle in your life. You know,

857
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: you can run all over the world trying to see

858
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: Holy Man, but unless you take the time and make

859
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: the space in your life, you'll find miracles happen more often,

860
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, and that they're they're healers. I recommend um

861
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: and I would go to and ali them in America.

862
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: I think the best ones I've ever seen or in America,

863
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: and I'd love to work with healers that I'm not

864
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: afraid to be tested by universities. You know, I just

865
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: don't go to shamans and the jungle all. I've known

866
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: many and I've spent spent many time in caves in

867
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: the jungles with shamans. But for me, I just rather

868
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: know that someone's been open to be tested has been documented.

869
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: So I sometimes recommend to or three of these people

870
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: and uh, they've They've actually helped a number of people

871
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: over the years. But it's a miracle time, you know,

872
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: if you really want to live, it's a miracle time.

873
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: I also know, Um, I don't know, this is my instinct.

874
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: My dad answer and died, So that's just what happened.

875
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: And we tried everything to bring healing and have the

876
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: miracle happen, and and it didn't. So what I also know,

877
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: just based on my own life, it is that it

878
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: is out of the worst thing that's ever happened to me.

879
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: Dad went the way he did. But without that melon,

880
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: I would have never become the person I am today.

881
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: I would have never done as much research as I've done,

882
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: I would never have learned so much about grief. I

883
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: would have never written this book, and I would have

884
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: never met you. So although it would be nice to

885
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: still have my dad here, what's become available after his

886
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: passing is a whole life and a whole way of

887
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: connecting people to some phenomenal things that wouldn't be available.

888
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't have the answers who who

889
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: gets to live and who gets to die. But I

890
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: do know we all play full out. It's true. Um,

891
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: some people believe that there are no accidents. But I

892
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: asked a light about that. In the light said, well,

893
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: there has to be a free universe. This is not

894
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: a preordained universe. It's completely free range or universe. And

895
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: so sometimes you can get these terminal conditions, whether it

896
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: be an accident or toxic event or toxic environment that

897
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: you're living in in a family or so. So you know,

898
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not your fault that you've got a cancer

899
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: or got sick. It's not your fault. These things happen,

900
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: and deal with them as best we can. Sometimes it

901
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: is your fault, though, you know, sometimes you really work

902
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: on it, you know what I mean? Right, and we

903
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: go looking. I mean, we have to do that a

904
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: little discovery. But one thing, it's like my mother, My

905
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: mother spoke cigarettes are alive in that corner. You know.

906
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: Although in one of my visitations of the light, we

907
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: we this did that because all my mother's life, I

908
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: told her every time you live a cigarette that was

909
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: going to kill her. The light showed me the truth,

910
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: and the truth is that most people that smoke get

911
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: away with it, So don't tell people's cigarettes are going

912
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: to kill him, because most people actually get away with this.

913
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: I have a funny short story to tell you, and

914
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: then we're gonna conclude this episode. But I was on

915
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: an airplane yesterday and the woman sitting next to me

916
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: told me the story about when her mom passed away.

917
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: And her mom smoked for or not ninety three years,

918
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: but ever since she was fifteen and she died at three.

919
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: And this woman said, just before the mom passed away,

920
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: she said, who's that man over there on the horse,

921
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: you know? And she was seeing her husband and she

922
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: kind of a grouchy old thing. And the god daughter says, well,

923
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: that's that's Daddy's come to take you home. And she says,

924
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: well where's home and she's well, that's heaven and is

925
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: it nice there? And she says, well, I imagine so,

926
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: because you know, God's there and Jesus is there. And

927
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: then um, she says, give me a cigarette, you know.

928
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: And uh so the mother's in hospice and she's asking

929
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: for the cigarette, and the daughter says, you really want

930
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: me to light this, mom, and she says, you know it,

931
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: don't light it. She says, I don't want God to

932
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: smell smoke on my clothes. And then she passed away

933
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: not too much longer, you know, And that came from

934
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: as a lady I sat in New box Ton the airplane. Melan,

935
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Oh, I just want to hug

936
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: you and to meet you and learn more and then

937
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: have you back on to ask more questions. Hopefully that's okay.

938
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: You really are a wonderful man. And let me just

939
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: a quick question. People that I've talked to that have

940
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: had near death experiences, they remember them like they were

941
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: just yesterday, as opposed to some other memory we've had

942
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: from the past or maybe a dream. Is it the

943
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: same with you that it's just as clear and absolutely

944
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: I often say, actually seemed like it took one second,

945
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: but it's taken me thirty years to tell the story.

946
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: I remember everything. I remember every bit of it, you know,

947
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: because you know, you just never get over it. Really well,

948
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much, thank you, thank you, thank you,

949
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I'm like a little kid with

950
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: a big Christmas present that I just opened. Yeah, how

951
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: do people get to your website? You can just go

952
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: to Melan M. E. L L. E. N. Melan Thomas

953
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: dot com. And you can. That'll lead you to another

954
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: side I have for inventions and things like that, so

955
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: you get to explore a lot of things what I do. Yeah,

956
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: very exciting. You're the modern day Walter Russell to me,

957
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: even though you're your own person. But I'm so excited

958
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: to learn more. Thank you, so so so much. I

959
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed that conversation. There's so many near death

960
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: experiences people have, and I like to say, for the

961
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: nine plus billion people that are on planet Earth right now,

962
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: we all have our different experiences of life, so it

963
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: makes sense to me that our experiences of near death

964
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: are different in their unique Melan Thomas Benedict told us

965
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: his website, which is Melan dash Thomas dot com m

966
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: While it's still on the internet, many of the links

967
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: don't work as he's not alive to maintain it. I

968
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: really enjoyed talking with him, and I can bet he's

969
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: still pretty active in the spirit world. And I'm glad

970
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: he mentioned about Walter Russell, as he was a modern

971
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: day Leonardo da Vinci. There's a small book called The

972
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: Man Who Tapped the Secrets of the Universe that's about

973
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: his life. But here's some basics Walter Russell was born

974
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: in Boston, Massachusetts, back in eighteen seventy one, and he

975
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: was known as a polymath, like a renaissance man, someone

976
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: who achieved many things in many different arenas in his life.

977
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: He was known for his achievements as a painter, a sculptor,

978
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: an author, and a builder, and less well known for

979
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: a natural philosopher in his unified theory in physics and

980
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: the cosmos. At a very young age, he hold his

981
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: parents about a mystical experience he had while in the woods.

982
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: Some would call it cosmic consciousness, but young Russell believed

983
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: he communed with God. His parents thought he may be

984
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: a troubled child, and the words he spoke and the

985
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: words he wrote seemed to be nonsense to them. They

986
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: thought maybe their son should be institutionalized. When his writings

987
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: were brought to a proper teacher, the writings of this

988
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: young man were determined to be as extraordinary as the

989
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: writings of the brilliant poet Walt Whitman. Walter Russell was

990
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: a true genius. He did not claim that he was

991
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: anything other than an ordinary man, even until his death.

992
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: In the book I Told You About the Man who

993
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: Tapped the Secrets of the Universe, Russell says, I believe

994
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: sincerely that every man has consummate genius within him. Some

995
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: appear to have it more than others only because they

996
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: are aware of it more than others, and the awareness

997
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: or unawareness of it is what makes each one of

998
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: them into masters, or holds them down to mediocrity. I

999
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: believe that mediocrity is self inflicted, and that genius is

1000
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: self bestowed. Every successful man I have ever known, and

1001
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: I have known a great many, carries within him the

1002
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: key that unlocks that awareness and lets in universal power

1003
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: that has made him into a master. I don't know

1004
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: if you've seen the movie What the Bleep Do We Know?

1005
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: Talking about the quantum level of things, but one of

1006
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: the quotes they have is how far down the rabbit

1007
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: hole do you want to go? And this show is

1008
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: kind of like that. It's like a big old onion

1009
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 1: that we are peeling away the layers. But the thing

1010
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: is we're never going to get to the middle because

1011
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: we are human beings having this experience, and we are

1012
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: so much more than we think we are. We really

1013
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: are tapped into all of it. So I encourage you

1014
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: to check out Walter Russell. Google him read that book

1015
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: The Man Who Tapped the Secrets of the Universe. I

1016
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed this episode. Come join us at We

1017
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 1: Don't Die dot com. This is Sandra Champlain and you,

1018
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: my friend, have been listening to Shades of the Afterlife

1019
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a

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Speaker 1: M paranormal podcast network. And if you like this episode

1021
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Speaker 1: of Shades of the Afterlife, wait until you hear the

1022
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