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Speaker 4: Good evening, everybody. Hope you had a great Friday, Fourth

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Speaker 4: of July. Aerin Torres, Arnie Span You're in for the

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Speaker 3: Nobody wished you happy anniversary.

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Speaker 4: Today It is Aaron torres Is eight year anniversary with

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. I'm not sure when I started to

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Speaker 4: be honest with you. I think I started like in

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Speaker 4: September of.

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Speaker 5: Like twelve or thirteen years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, eighteen eighteen?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay me.

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Speaker 5: Black socks. You black socks were the big topic, your

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Speaker 5: first shutting.

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Speaker 3: How can they throw the World Series? What's wrong with that?

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Speaker 6: What is.

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Speaker 7: We've come full circle with all these guys. You know,

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Speaker 7: oh yeah, we saw whatever his faces.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's a like, what.

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Speaker 3: Are they say? Tartis artis Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Life is a flat circle the earth.

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Speaker 3: Life is a flat Did you see the pitch he threw?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: You have to throw the pitch to make sure that

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Speaker 4: the batter doesn't offer at it, otherwise it's not going

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Speaker 4: to be considered a ball. We're talking about the investigation

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Speaker 4: going around with Luis Ortiz. We'll get to that later on.

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Speaker 4: We do have a bunch to get to though this hour.

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Speaker 4: If you want to jump in, Aaron underscore Torres, I'm

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Speaker 4: as stinking genius one, So Twitter is the best way

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Speaker 4: to get a hold of us. I do want to

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Speaker 4: get to the MJ situation where he's going to be

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Speaker 4: working for ENDBC, and if you still think he's got

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Speaker 4: clat where people like, well, I've got to tune in

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Speaker 4: to the pregame show. I'm gonna hear what Michael Jordan's

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Speaker 4: got to say kind of you know, kind of like

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Speaker 4: what Shack and Kenny and those guys and Ernie have

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Speaker 4: to say. Are people gonna say, got to hear what

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Speaker 4: MJ has to say, got to tune into the pregame?

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Speaker 4: Does he still have cloud? Is he gonna say anything

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Speaker 4: of value to Aaron? Is he gonna be controversial? Is

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Speaker 4: he gonna let everything spill out? I'm not so sure,

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Speaker 4: but sure about that?

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think that's gonna be The interesting part of it

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Speaker 7: is what is the role gonna be. Obviously he's not

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Speaker 7: gonna be announcing games, So is he gonna do like

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Speaker 7: You know, Like, is he gonna be in an analyst role?

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Speaker 7: Because I think that's obviously like why we were so

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Speaker 7: intrigued by Tom Brady was you know, is he gonna

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Speaker 7: be critical? And I think he was. I thought Tom

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Speaker 7: Brady was fine. I didn't think he was as bad

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Speaker 7: as everybody made it out to be. But that's gonna

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Speaker 7: be the thing with MJ. Is he gonna be critical?

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Speaker 7: Is he even gonna be in a role where he

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Speaker 7: fascinating to see what actual role he's put into.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious about his demeanor.

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Speaker 4: Also, and I will get into that later on because

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of different avenues to take on that.

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Speaker 4: Plus also we're gonna have a guest coming up now.

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Speaker 4: Felix Ojoe is the offensive tackle, the kid from high

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Speaker 4: school that just signed a three year guarantee to play

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Speaker 4: for Texas Tech at five point one million dollars in

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Speaker 4: a seventeen year old, right, my friend, that is that

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Speaker 3: Now on the nil deals right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a crazy story. Basically number one high school

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Speaker 4: Then lets a matter of fact, he's on the line

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Speaker 4: Joe joining us. Now it's Derek Shelby. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you coming on the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, how you guys doing good?

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Speaker 3: Good? No, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 4: First things first, how long does it take to get

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Speaker 6: We've been working on this deal for probably about I

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Speaker 6: I think he ended up with probably seventy high major offers.

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Speaker 6: Seventy nine wow, schlship offers.

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Speaker 5: So, by the way, today is his seventeenth birthday, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just turned seventeen. Imagine being sixteen sixteen yesterday he

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Speaker 4: do you take offers from all seventy schools?

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Speaker 3: And it was Texas Tech the highest offer.

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Speaker 6: You know, good question, though you don't take offers from seventy.

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Speaker 6: I told him when he got to like sixty five

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Speaker 6: Because Lovelick had been calling me and Tech has been

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Speaker 6: And we've done that and a lot of people don't realize.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Tech disinvested about two hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 6: And I think once the kid gets and see what

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Speaker 6: Now keep it not mine, but sixty five to seventy

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Speaker 3: What what was it?

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Speaker 4: Did Texas Tech give you the most money? And did

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Speaker 6: Well, you know what, the biggest offer ended up being

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Speaker 6: So I want to do something that's unprecedented. So I

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Speaker 6: three years, And that's kind of how it got started.

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Speaker 7: So let me ask you that there, because that was

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Speaker 7: I mean, how often are these agreements beyond one year?

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Speaker 7: But then two I would have to assume there has

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Speaker 5: I mean, how does that work?

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Speaker 7: Because obviously, you know, we know, like Arnie and I

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Speaker 6: Well, a good question for one very far feel between

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Speaker 6: fantastic year, he can ask for more of the following year,

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Speaker 6: you know, but also in the same token, you give

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Speaker 6: me prendred thousand dollars and he gets hurt, then he

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Speaker 6: gets nothing in the following year. Right, So there's risk.

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Speaker 6: There's risk on both sides in my opinion. And when

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Speaker 6: you sign with a school You're not signing with the coach,

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Speaker 6: You're signing with the school. So the coach leaves what

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Speaker 6: have you. It didn't really matter, you know. So of

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Speaker 6: course you want to take what the coach you signed for.

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Speaker 6: But the way we've done this deal was we're signing

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Speaker 6: for Texas Tech. And we loved coach Maguire anyway. He's

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Speaker 6: staffs were good. Texas people were fantastic. Ohio State was fantastic.

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Speaker 6: You know. It's just Tech is an aggressive attail and

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm interested about this, and I'm not talking

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Speaker 7: And explain to cause I find this part fascinat you

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Speaker 7: obviously earn it. Yeah, I don't even know where I'm

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Speaker 6: I'm know exactly where you're going, and what you're saying

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Speaker 6: So that's why we're going to go there and get

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Derek. Where does all this money come from?

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Speaker 3: Where's all this money coming from?

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Speaker 6: Well, this is part of the REP share, right. So

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Speaker 6: they're gonna do that with thousands and thousands of kids

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Speaker 6: they're getting on one kid, right, so they have to

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Speaker 6: And when we met with them and went over these numbers,

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 6: Can you handle being in that locker room? But just

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Speaker 7: Let me ask you, though, Yeah, let me ask you this, Derek,

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Speaker 5: You understand the point I'm trying to get to. I'll

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So in the college locker room, like

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Speaker 6: But the good thing about Tech is that he's not

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Speaker 6: even though he has the big ticket, right, you know,

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Speaker 6: But when he gets in there, they're going to try

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Speaker 4: You mentioned you got Kennedy your soft softball, right, Texas,

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Speaker 6: That's something I negotiated, and that's the biggest deal in

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Speaker 3: You don't take everybody, do you do, weekend radio hosts.

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Speaker 7: Do you do you believe that in his three years

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Speaker 6: Him, I'll tell you this right now, Texas Tech will

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Speaker 6: they will be a top four seed.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Texas Tech has brought in some of the their

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be always gonna be hard to beat Texas

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Speaker 6: And I'm telling right now Texas Tech will be in

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Speaker 7: I'll add this too, is you know, everybody talks about

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Speaker 7: the money. I can't speak to Felix. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 7: lie and say I've watched him a ton. I enjoyed

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Speaker 7: the hell out of watching Naja Kennedy this year, and

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Speaker 7: that was such a fun run.

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Speaker 3: She was great.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's like, you know, every the story is

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Speaker 7: about nil and then you're just like, oh, she's awesome

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Speaker 7: and really fun to watch. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 7: I think Arnie, you and I will probably talk about

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Speaker 7: this after Derek gets off. But there's all this perception of, well,

448
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Speaker 7: these guys get paid now. It's like the sports are

449
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Speaker 7: still awesome. I was at the Final four. It was incredible.

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Speaker 7: Watching Nija Kennedy lead that team to the brink of

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Speaker 7: a national championship was awesome. I don't want to speak

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Speaker 7: for you, Arnie, but I can't wait to see Felix

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Speaker 7: and see what he can do with Texas, Texas.

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Speaker 6: I will tell you this. You know, a kid like Nija,

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Speaker 6: for example, I swear to you that decision was not

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Speaker 6: based on money. Felix Ojo same thing when the number

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Speaker 6: was first offered. And if me or you, I'm saying

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Speaker 6: hell yes when he confinished the.

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Speaker 5: Sentence, I know Arnie would say yes, right.

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Speaker 6: Yes, No. It took Niga over a month to make

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Speaker 6: her decision. Wow, then wasn't about the money. Okay. It

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Speaker 6: took Felix over a month to get to this decision,

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Speaker 6: you know. And that's the credit to their parents. And

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Speaker 6: these kids have fantastic parents. So when we're out recruiting kids,

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Speaker 6: we look for that. We want a certain type of

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Speaker 6: kid with a certain type of parent, right, they have

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Speaker 6: the right expectations. These kids parents are fantastic. They're all Americans,

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Speaker 6: just like their kids are, you know. So they were patient,

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Speaker 6: they research, you know, they both they make good livings,

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Speaker 6: and you know, they wanted to do something special, but

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Speaker 6: they also want to make sure there's the right fit

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Speaker 6: for their child. And in both of these situations, the

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Speaker 6: child made the decision. Yep, you know, and that's how

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Speaker 6: it should be.

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Speaker 4: Love it Hey, of course, Derek Shelby agents who field

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Speaker 4: those shall We certainly appreciate you coming on. You've been

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Speaker 4: very candid. We'll have to do it again. Best of

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Speaker 4: luck with your other clients and and we'll certainly have

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Speaker 4: you on again.

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Speaker 6: Thank you you guys to have a wonderful night, Happy forth.

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Speaker 3: Thank for Derek.

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Speaker 4: Derek, she be interesting stuff. We'll come back in and

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Speaker 4: we'll talk about that. Aaron Torres Arnie Spanier in for

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Speaker 4: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: All right, good evening, everyone are in Torres.

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Speaker 4: Arnie Spanier in for Jason Smith and his best friend

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Speaker 4: Mike Harmon right here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks to

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Speaker 4: Derek Shelby for stopping on by interesting interview.

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Speaker 3: I have to say that Aaron.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was I can't speak to anybody else.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was very interesting, and I give him credit.

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Speaker 7: I thought he was actually very candid about the process.

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Speaker 4: I learned a lot because I never really knew what

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Speaker 4: exactly goes on with this. Like first of all, I

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Speaker 4: was curious how many schools, you know, when you're a

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Speaker 4: top notch high school athlete, how many get to offer you?

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Speaker 3: You know, how many are coming after you?

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Speaker 4: He said, what, sixty five to seventy doesn't take bids

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Speaker 4: from all seventy of them, that's got to be crazy.

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Speaker 4: He took bids from five to seven. Texas Tech was

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Speaker 4: the highest one. They didn't start at a number and

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Speaker 4: finished at that same number. So it shows me there

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Speaker 4: was some negotiations going on there, but the three year guarantee,

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Speaker 4: I guess some schools said Nope, we can't do that.

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Speaker 3: Texas Tech stepped up with that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think that that speaks

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Speaker 7: to you know, listen, not just the money, but the

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Speaker 7: year over year commitment. And that's why, you know, listen,

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Speaker 7: let's be candid, that's probably why Texas Tech, you know,

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Speaker 7: outside of just the raw dollars was part of it,

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Speaker 7: is that this kid, now for the next three years,

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Speaker 7: knows that he is set. Obviously, you know, five million

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Speaker 7: dollars is great money at any point in your life.

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Speaker 7: But but you know, I mean to to Derek's point,

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Speaker 7: he could commit to Texas and if it's only for

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Speaker 7: one year and he gets hurt, he's got nothing. So

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Speaker 7: you know, I guess when you're a Texas Tech or

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Speaker 7: you're not. Maybe the better way to put it is

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Speaker 7: when when you when you're in Ohio State or Texas,

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Speaker 7: you can maybe get away with some things that Texas

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Speaker 7: Tech can't. But the one thing I will say, by

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Speaker 7: the way, I see somebody in the comments, oh, you're

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Speaker 7: glazing him by asking by asking how good?

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Speaker 3: Like I saw that.

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Speaker 4: Let me read that when Michael says, okay, erin, I

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Speaker 4: know this guy's your friend. But the glazing right now

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Speaker 4: by him and the teeing up from you is crazy

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Speaker 4: asking the kids agent if Texas Tech is putting good,

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Speaker 4: good team together, what's his agent going to say, No,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be bad the whole time.

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Speaker 3: In your defense, he has clients that are going to go.

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Speaker 4: To all types of colleges and if they weren't gonna

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Speaker 4: be good to go, well, look, I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: compete for a championship or anything like that, but it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be some trying times, but they'll get better something

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Speaker 4: to that effect.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's a fair question.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was a totally fair question, and a

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Speaker 7: couple of things on that one. First of all, I

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Speaker 7: did ask him. I said, do you think he'll you'll

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Speaker 7: have a team to compete at the top of the sport,

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Speaker 7: And he said he'll have a team good enough to

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Speaker 7: make the playoff?

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Speaker 3: Well out of four?

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Speaker 6: What four?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the Big twelve gets an automatic bid though.

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Speaker 7: So so the only point I'm trying to make is,

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Speaker 7: I mean, because the insinuation is the kid only chose

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Speaker 7: it because of money, and he's gonna this is if

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Speaker 7: I had to ask the question over the insinuation is

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Speaker 7: that he only chose because of the money, and that

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Speaker 7: he's gonna go to a bad team and a bad program,

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Speaker 7: and they're gonna stink for the next three years. And

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Speaker 7: who cares how much money you're making if you lose

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Speaker 7: every game. So that was why I asked the question.

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Speaker 7: And then I think to his point, like, listen, this

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Speaker 7: is a world where you have to be willing to spend.

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Speaker 7: Texas Tech is and they are putting together a very

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Speaker 7: competitive roster, at least in the Big Twelve. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 7: the Big Twelve essentially has an automatic bit. I know

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Speaker 7: that they say it goes to the five highest conference champions.

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Speaker 7: The Big Twelve champ is always going to get into

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Speaker 7: this college football playoff the way that it's constructed, So.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think it's different.

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Speaker 7: You know, one thing I would have been curious about

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Speaker 7: is and I want to ask, but it kind of

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Speaker 7: just didn't really come up in the flow of the conversation.

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Speaker 7: Is you know, there's such a perception that it's like

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Speaker 7: the SEC and the Big Ten and everybody else. Like

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Speaker 7: I wonder, you know, does he regret not being able

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Speaker 7: to play in the SEC or whatever? But I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I feel like I learned a ton and yeah, I

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Speaker 7: thought I thought it was a very interesting conversation on us.

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Speaker 4: No I And like I said, we certainly learned a

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Speaker 4: lot from it. Does that mean he can't transfer?

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Speaker 5: Well, that's the part that's confusing to me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if he wants to transfer the Contractsnoll on void,

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm assuming yeah, I mean, probably something we should

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Speaker 4: have asked there.

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Speaker 7: That's where to me it gets very confusing. Is and

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Speaker 7: what he said, well, I'll tell you what he said

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Speaker 7: was for people who missed it. If everybody would have

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Speaker 7: missed it, this was the number one junior offensive tackle

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Speaker 7: in America. So basically going into a scene year committed

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Speaker 7: to Texas Tech today.

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Speaker 5: Uh and in the.

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Speaker 7: NIO world, where you know, numbers are very vague and

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Speaker 7: nobody really knows. It was put out there that he

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Speaker 7: signed a three year, five point one million dollar contract,

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Speaker 7: but he did say, well, he committed to the school,

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Speaker 7: not not Joey McGuire. You know, since since everybody thinks, oh,

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Speaker 7: he's my friend, I'm not going to criticize. All I'll

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Speaker 7: say is, if for some reason Joey McGuire wasn't there,

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Speaker 7: I would assume that that you know, both like both

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Speaker 7: sides would maybe try to reconsider that whole situation. But

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Speaker 7: uh but yeah, no, I thought it was really interesting,

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Speaker 7: and like you said, is that I I will be curious.

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Speaker 7: You know three already. Three years is a long time

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Speaker 7: in anything.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Matter of fact, there's a few things I want to

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Speaker 4: touch about what he had to say. We'll get back

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Speaker 4: to that, but first let's see what's trending. We checked

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Speaker 4: back in with her buddy, Steve the Sager to see

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Speaker 4: what's going on, what's happening out there.

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Speaker 10: To Seger, guys, it's yeah, a good interview and a

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Speaker 10: good get. That was good.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome.

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Speaker 10: Yes, it was good, speaking as honestly as objective as

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Speaker 10: I can be. It's something I would have listened to

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Speaker 10: in the car if I never worked here.

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Speaker 6: It was very interesting. Thank you.

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Speaker 10: As for the Major League Baseball we mentioned an hour

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Speaker 10: ago that at this point of the Dodgers' rotation, every

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Speaker 10: time that comes to this part, they don't have any pitching.

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Speaker 10: So tonight the first three pitchers, yeah, absolutely, Ben Casparis,

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Speaker 10: Jack Dryer and Noah Davis on the mound for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 10: Those three in a row. Houston's up eighteen to one

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Speaker 10: in La in the bottom of the eighth inning. In fact,

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Speaker 10: Noah Davis allowed ten runs in the sixth. It is

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Speaker 10: the first time this century that the Dodgers have had

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Speaker 10: a double digit inning against them. The last time was

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Speaker 10: when Fernando Tettis Senior hit the two Grand Slams in

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Speaker 10: the same inning in April of nineteen ninety nine for

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Speaker 10: the Cardinals at Dodgers Stadium. Also in progress the game

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Speaker 10: in Sacramento, the A's led six nothing against Justin Verlander,

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Speaker 10: who's zero and five for the Giants. He lasted three innings.

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Speaker 10: Now a six nothing over the Giants in the top

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Speaker 10: of the six and the Royals lead nine to three

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Speaker 10: at Arizona top of the seventh inning. White Sox were

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Speaker 10: three two winners at Colorado, the loss to Antonio Senzatela,

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Speaker 10: who's three and twelve, but he did lower his era

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Speaker 10: to six and a half. Baltimore a three to two

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Speaker 10: winner at Atlanta. Charlie Morton the win seven strikeouts in

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Speaker 10: five and a third. The loss to Spencer Strider in Atlanta.

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Speaker 10: Cleveland has lost eight games in a row. The Guardians

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Speaker 10: left ten men on base and lost two to one

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Speaker 10: to Detroit. Milwaukee won six to five at Miami with

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Speaker 10: a run in the eighth. Toronto won on a tenth

657
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Speaker 10: inning throwing air, four to three over the Angels. The

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Speaker 10: Blue Jays the first place. Blue Jays have won six

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Speaker 10: in a row. Meanwhile, the Yankees have lost five straight.

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Speaker 10: The Mets beat him at home six'. Five mets in

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Speaker 10: THE nl second, place but just a half game Behind.

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Speaker 10: Philadelphia philly lost at home nine to six To. Cincinnati

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Speaker 10: padres won in ten innings three to two Over, texas

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Speaker 10: as The, rangers with runners in scoring, position went one

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Speaker 10: for twelve At, wrigley The cubs hit eight home, runs

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00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 10: a franchise record eleven three the final over the Rival.

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00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 10: Cardinals minnesota on a solo homer bottom of the, ninth

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00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 10: Edged Tampa bay four to. Three boston started today with

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Speaker 10: an eleven two win At washington on this, Holiday Trevor

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00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 10: story four, hits four, RBIs including a, homer and At

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00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 10: Seattle mariners six nothing Over pittsburgh Cal raley with two home.

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00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 10: Runs he has thirty five and seventy four. RBIs. Here

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00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 10: on the fourth Of, July Carlos alcarez advanced to the

674
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 10: fourth round At Wimbledon women's number one. Arena sablenka won

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00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 10: THE wnba is off. Tonight Caitlin clark will be missing

676
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 10: a fifth straight Game saturday with a groin.

677
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 6: Entry back to, you.

678
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: Thank you very, Much steve The sager on the.

679
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: Updates of, Course Aaron, Torres Arnie spanier in for the

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00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: guys Like Jason smith is his best, Friend Mike. CARMON

681
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: i get a feeling that's going to be the future

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00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: three year guarantees now and that's going to open up

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00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: A Holkada.

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00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: Warbs is it?

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00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Not?

686
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: Torres what do you?

687
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 7: Think, WELL i think to his, point you, know it's

688
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 7: dangerous for both. Sides and BUT i do think listen,

689
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 7: AGAIN I i If Texas tech fans are the, car

690
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 7: they're probably, happy but they're probably annoyed that we keep

691
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 7: kind of putting them a tier below certain. Teams but

692
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 7: LIKE i do think there's something, too like if You're Ohio,

693
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 7: state do you want to invest all of that in

694
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 7: a player that probably isn't gonna start his first year

695
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 7: and then on top of, it you, Know god forbid

696
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 7: an injury, Happens and SO i don't, KNOW i don't know.

697
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: Which have asked how much of it is? Upfront? Too

698
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: is that that would have been a good question to.

699
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 7: Know, well What i'm curious about because some states allow

700
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 7: nil in high, School so is that you know part

701
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 7: of the.

702
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: Deal do you do they?

703
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 7: Get does he get something before he signs With Texas?

704
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 7: Tech WHAT i think is also interesting is that that's

705
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 7: that is the quote unquote from to the question that

706
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 7: you asked The house. Settlement for people who don't, Understand

707
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 7: i'll be. QUICK i know we're up against. It each

708
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 7: school has twenty million to spend however they, want and

709
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 7: then anything outside of that has to be reviewed by

710
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 7: this outside kind of. Panel, yes, so, well so the

711
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 7: first twenty you do whatever you, want so you, know

712
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 7: you could give somebody ten million in THE ncaa can't

713
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 7: do anything about.

714
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: It so the only REASON i bring it up is.

715
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 7: Because in, theory this kid can still sign endorsement deals

716
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 7: outside of just this quote. UNQUOTE i know we're not

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00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 7: supposed to call it a, salary but it is what it.

718
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 5: Is it's a. Salary AND i thought it was very,

719
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,239
Speaker 5: interesting good good.

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00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 7: LUCK i thought the best question that was asked Was Arreadie, spanier, like,

721
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 7: hey you got room for two weekend radio hosts because,

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Speaker 7: UH i could.

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Speaker 5: Use a three year.

724
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Speaker 3: Guarantee he.

725
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: Said those two, GUYS i forgot their, name the oil

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Speaker 4: and gas.

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00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 5: GUYS i know one Is Cody. Campbell he's a Prominent uh,

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Speaker 5: yeah do they own a radio.

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Speaker 3: Station, yeah ask gag for a. Friend i'm. Asking i'm

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Speaker 3: asking for a.

731
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Speaker 5: Friend the seventeen years old man must be nice.

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00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: That they're making a big dent In Texas tech. Sports

733
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: i'm not just talking about, football you, know as he

734
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: mentioned the softball Player, kennedy.

735
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: And i'll be, serious awesome she.

736
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 7: Is AND i remember it being a big story when

737
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 7: she signed that, deal AND i said it AND i

738
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 7: mean it is her making money did not make me

739
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 7: enjoy that run any. LESS i was, Like, oh she's

740
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 7: awesome and really fun to, watch, Right she's like The

741
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 7: Caitlin clark of. Softball it's like you can't take your

742
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 7: eyes off of her when she's on the. Mound and,

743
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 7: yeah good for. Her and you, Know Texas tech was

744
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 7: great and softball and now obviously you, know football is

745
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 7: a little bit of a different deal.

746
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: With eighty five, guys but it's still.

747
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: Interesting if you want to jump, in you can give

748
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: us a, tweet real, Simple aaron, Underscore, Torres i'm its

749
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 4: thinking genius.

750
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: One we'll come.

751
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 4: BACK i do want to talk a little bit About Luis,

752
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: ortiz what's going on there with the gambling, Situation so

753
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: we'll get to that also coming up next right here

754
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: On Fox Sports.

755
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: Radio be sure to catch live editions Of The Jason

756
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: Smith show With Mike harmon weekdays at ten Pm, eastern

757
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: seven Pm.

758
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 4: Pacific all, right good evening, Everyone Aaron, Torres Arnie, span

759
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: you're in for the, Guys Jason smith And Mike harmon

760
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: here On Fox Sports. Radio, well we're moving right along.

761
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 4: HERE i do want to get To luis Or. Tez,

762
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 4: well we have. Time he's the pitcher for The Washington.

763
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: Nationals they are going to investigate. Him we'll leave it

764
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 4: an investigation right. Now to gambling, ALLEGATIONS i. Guess back

765
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 4: On june, Fifteenth ortiz's first pitch of the second inning

766
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: terran the arose arena was not even close to.

767
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: The strike, Zone.

768
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 4: Aaron that set off an alert that was reportedly triggered

769
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: by that action On ortiza's first pitch of the, inning

770
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: being bet.

771
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: That it was either going to be a ball or

772
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: a hits.

773
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 4: Batsman the next incident on similar action was another bad,

774
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: miss and that was On june twenty, seventh in the

775
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 4: top of the third, inning and he had another bad

776
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: miss out. There you know what they, say where there's,

777
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 4: smoke there's. Fire this is not good for the gambling.

778
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 4: Industry you gotta wonder here we're investigating a couple, people

779
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 4: how many people are getting away with it that were

780
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 4: not investigating or is this just like a one or

781
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 4: two time?

782
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 6: Thing what do you?

783
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 5: Think, well it's, funny you.

784
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 7: KNOW i was filling in With Dan byer yesterday For

785
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 7: cavino And rich and we talked about, this and What

786
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 7: i'd be curious about, is obviously there was a disproportional

787
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 7: amount of money on this specific, result a ball to

788
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 7: lead the third.

789
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 5: Inning of this specific.

790
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 7: Game What i'd be curious about is how much is

791
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 7: regularly bet right on that type of, hypothetical and then

792
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 7: how much was bet on? This you, know BECAUSE i

793
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 7: was Telling, DAN i was, like you, know that's the

794
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 7: kind of fun bet that you're sitting in a sports,

795
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 7: book you're with your, BUDDIES a let's put ten dollars,

796
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 7: on you, know a ball to lead the inning or

797
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 7: strike to lead the. Inning it's not something that you're, like,

798
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 7: Oh i'm gonna put fifty grand down, on you, Know

799
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 7: and So i'm just, curious and you, know like this

800
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 7: is a great question for A Bernie fratto or A Todd,

801
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 7: furman like how much money and how many spots would

802
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 7: have to be, wagered and how different it is than

803
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 7: the normal wager on that specific, situation because it's, just you,

804
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 7: know one pitch in one of one hundred and sixty

805
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 7: Two Major League baseball games doesn't raise a red. Flag

806
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 7: it's the amount of money that was bet on. It

807
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 7: SO i find it fascinating and it's. Crazy But i'll

808
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 7: also say, this those integrity, firms they know what the

809
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 7: heck they're.

810
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: Doing oh, yeah oh, yeah you're right about.

811
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: That what set the alarm, off the alert off was

812
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: the amount of money that was bet on. It but

813
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: that pitch was way out of the strike. Zone you

814
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: got to put it way out there so the batter

815
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 4: doesn't swing at it or attempt to swing at. It,

816
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 4: yep it's got to be something so just egregious that

817
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: nobody's gonna go ahead and offer it that. Pitch that's

818
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: exactly what. Happened you think this goes on a. Lot

819
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: you think this is kind of going under the radar

820
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: or we're catching everybody out.

821
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 7: THERE i really, believe and maybe it's Maybe i'm dumb

822
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 7: for saying. THIS i think these integrity firms are so,

823
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 7: good and you, know LIKE i, know you Have Todd

824
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 7: furman on your show Every, sunday, right he says that,

825
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 7: actually like legal sports betting is actually you, know like

826
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 7: like there's less sketchy stuff going on now that it's,

827
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 7: legalized because you have all these integrity firms that are following,

828
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 7: it you, know as opposed to if it's, underground.

829
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: If it's, this if it's.

830
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 7: THAT i actually don't think that a lot of stuff

831
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 7: is happening and going, unnoticed BECAUSE i, mean, Listen, arnie

832
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 7: how MANY i, Mean Malik, Beasley Johntay, Porter Louise. ORTIE

833
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 7: i mean we've had you, know seven eight of these situations,

834
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 7: Already Calvin, ridley on and, on and it's just, LIKE

835
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 7: i actually don't think BECAUSE i think that they're so

836
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 7: good at catching it and red flagging anything that's suspicious

837
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 7: THAT i actually don't think it's happening much more than

838
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 7: it's probably being.

839
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: Caught do we have too many prop.

840
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 4: BETS i didn't even know you could bet on what

841
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 4: the first pitch of an inning's gonna be in not

842
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: a little too.

843
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: MUCH i, mean let's be.

844
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 4: Honest, okay it used to be you bet the, game the,

845
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 4: line and you bet the over.

846
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: Under then we started breaking it down in the.

847
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: Quarters first, quarter of, halftime half, timeline second half. Line

848
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: then we started putting passing, yards rushing, yards receiving. Yards

849
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: now it's out of, HAND i mean betting first pitch

850
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: and all kinds of prop.

851
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: Bets has it gotten too out of hand or?

852
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 5: What, Yeah i've heard a few people reference. THAT i

853
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 5: don't think.

854
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 7: SO i think you're a professional athlete making a lot of,

855
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 7: money be, responsible you.

856
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 5: Know it's it's like anything.

857
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 7: Else it's, like are there too many liquors because somebody

858
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 7: you know got sick and puked all over.

859
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 5: Themselves it's, like not just be responsible and don't be a,

860
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 5: jerk you. Know AND i think that to, ME.

861
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 7: I don't think it's on the gaming industry to say

862
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 7: we have too much because a couple athletes are getting.

863
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 7: Selfish and by the, way AND i know you know,

864
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 7: this AND i know the audience knows, This but these

865
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 7: guys get so much training on what they can and cannot.

866
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 7: Do if these, guys whether it's A John Tay, porter,

867
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 7: whatever gets suspended for the rest of their, careers, WHATEVER

868
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 7: i have zero sympathy because you know what you're signing up.

869
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 7: For you know the ramifications of getting Caught and how did.

870
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: They get in that? Situation?

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