Speaker 1: Just a little bit. Okay, Jim, We've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about big plays this year, and Sunday seemed like really
Speaker 1: the epitome of that. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 1: the way their offense worked, it was two or three
Speaker 1: big plays running, two or three big plays passing, and
Speaker 1: the rest of the time you had them really stymy.
Speaker 1: Is that just kind of part of being aggressive or
Speaker 1: is what is it? I wouldn't put it just on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, everything's designed to get everybody stopped on every play.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I mean sometimes when you have
Speaker 1: that philosophy, you know, you can set yourself up a
Speaker 1: big places to big plays we allowed in this game
Speaker 1: I don't think had to do with that at all.
Speaker 1: There have been times this year that we've given up
Speaker 1: some big plays where you know, there's been some you know,
Speaker 1: give and take, you know, scheming to take something out
Speaker 1: the um, you know, all three different things. But their
Speaker 1: biggest runs were avoidable, and probably their biggest pass was avoidable.
Speaker 1: What happened on that thirty four yard touchdowns Tom Jalen
Speaker 1: Watkins never got there? Yeah, you know, I mean that's
Speaker 1: that that situation there just sixteen seconds left. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a game where we're holding onto a one
Speaker 1: score lead. We don't want to let them get a
Speaker 1: field goal. They got a field goal kicker that um
Speaker 1: can hit from just about anywhere. We don't want to
Speaker 1: The wind was really an issue there too. We don't
Speaker 1: want to let it get any closer. And we played
Speaker 1: a man to man coverage with too deep And you know,
Speaker 1: Jalen's a young player, Joalen Watkins a young player, but
Speaker 1: he made a rookie mistake right there at quarterback pumped
Speaker 1: him and I was able to make a big play
Speaker 1: on us. But you know, that's that's one of those things.
Speaker 1: We're playing tight coverage. We first of all, we don't
Speaker 1: want to let them get out of bounds, you know,
Speaker 1: so we're playing outside technique because if we can get
Speaker 1: them in bounce, um, they're gonna have a hard time
Speaker 1: getting another playoff. And then second of all, we should
Speaker 1: be over the top on that. That wasn't That wasn't
Speaker 1: very good. I never liked to blame execution on a play,
Speaker 1: but I know, I know what would like to have
Speaker 1: that one back. Jaillen Mills didn't seem to like the
Speaker 1: coverage that he was in did you guys have that conversation.
Speaker 1: I have an understanding of what he was what he
Speaker 1: was talking about. Yeah, we did. We have a new system.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the earpiece out of Jordan Hicks's head.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it in Jail's so Jaylen can approve
Speaker 1: of every call we make from now on before it
Speaker 1: gets related to the defense. I mean, I love the
Speaker 1: hell out of that kid, I really do. He is
Speaker 1: a competitor and you know, people talk about speed, people
Speaker 1: talk about ability to play the ball. To me, the
Speaker 1: number one criteria for playing corner is you have to
Speaker 1: be a competitor, and he is. He's given up some
Speaker 1: plays this year. He's made some plays and given up
Speaker 1: some but it's never let it affect his psyche. Actually,
Speaker 1: at halftime, I told those guys, I said, hey, blame
Speaker 1: me for that call. And the reason I said it
Speaker 1: was because I didn't want them to play conservative in
Speaker 1: the second half. But looking back, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: calls you'd like to have back in the game. The
Speaker 1: call wasn't the issue there, it's the execution the call.
Speaker 1: He understands that he knows. Um. We've had conversations and
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit yesterday. But you know, I'll
Speaker 1: I'll stand behind Jalen Mills the second time in three
Speaker 1: weeks Bride and Cloud. It doesn't seem like it's effort
Speaker 1: in this case technique, I guess again a touchdown run. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, what are the issues with him there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's another guy that I had conversation with yesterday. I
Speaker 1: spent my whole day having conversations. Um, you know, here's
Speaker 1: here's my take on that, and talking to Rodney. I
Speaker 1: have a perspective on that also, Um, Brodney was doing
Speaker 1: the wrong thing for the right reason. Um. And I
Speaker 1: say this, He's trying not to allow a big play
Speaker 1: right there, and as a result, we end up giving
Speaker 1: up big plays. And I told him, I would rather
Speaker 1: you shoot your gun. I'd rather you take that shot
Speaker 1: then shoot a chickens and and give ground and give
Speaker 1: ground and hope that you can buy time for other
Speaker 1: people to make the play. There's times that you have
Speaker 1: to do that, and it's tough being the middle of
Speaker 1: the field defender and a run breaks. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a big difference between being a safety and I'd
Speaker 1: like to tell those guys and being a risky you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's a different thing. But you
Speaker 1: don't want a safety that's ready fire aim, and you
Speaker 1: don't want a safety that's ready aim aim aim aim aim.
Speaker 1: Never pulled a trigger. And that's where that's that's where
Speaker 1: I told my opinion was that's where. That's where he's
Speaker 1: gotten to these last couple of games. And I want
Speaker 1: him to get back to early in the season where
Speaker 1: that twenty three was a blur everywhere on the field.
Speaker 1: And you don't want to be risky and you don't
Speaker 1: want to take chances sometimes when when you're the closed player,
Speaker 1: but you got to pull the trigger when it comes.
Speaker 1: And I have enough confidence in him to trust his
Speaker 1: judgment to pull the trigger. And you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: Less talked about the big plays and think things like that.
Speaker 1: Roddy knows big plays have affected us. He's trying not
Speaker 1: to allow big play and sometimes that's the wrong approach
Speaker 1: to take. And hopefully we can get him back to,
Speaker 1: you know, being the blur on the field that he
Speaker 1: was first half of the season. Had a question about
Speaker 1: the jail and play to the thirty four years past.
Speaker 1: He questioned whether it was the right coverage to is
Speaker 1: it more concerning when it is a veteran guy like
Speaker 1: that who was wondering whether it's the right call. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. I mean, everybody's got their opinion. We're
Speaker 1: not trying to allow a field goal. The second that
Speaker 1: our calls are designed to let people get in field
Speaker 1: goal range. As a second, you're gonna find somebody else
Speaker 1: standing up here. Now there's there's differences. Now whatever, You're
Speaker 1: up two scores and it's late in the game, and
Speaker 1: you're willing to, you know, play soft zone coverage. But
Speaker 1: I'll sit up here and take the call or take
Speaker 1: the questions all day long rather than have played soft
Speaker 1: zone coverage. Give them ten yards, they kick a field
Speaker 1: goal at the end of the first half, and that
Speaker 1: that weather gets bad in the second half or to
Speaker 1: score gets changed, and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: we lose a close game because of that attitude. You know,
Speaker 1: we're going to live and die being based on being aggressive.
Speaker 1: And um, I think all those guys understand that there's
Speaker 1: frustration involved. You give up a play there sixteen seconds left.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to give up a play right there. Um,
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you know, sometimes uh, you're sometimes
Speaker 1: the ability and we didn't blitz. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: we played we played actually the same coverage that we
Speaker 1: had a sack strip. Um, you know, to set up
Speaker 1: one of our touchdowns and got a sack early in
Speaker 1: the game. They were max protecting a lot. We're adding
Speaker 1: extra guys to the coverage. Um, you know, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. Malcolm did a great job covering his guy.
Speaker 1: No one did a great job covering his guy. The
Speaker 1: problem was on the other side of the field. What's
Speaker 1: been your assessment about Benny Logan's play this year. He's
Speaker 1: been a consistent player. You know, we missed him the
Speaker 1: last time we played the Giants. Um. That's made a
Speaker 1: lot of plays. I think my the plays that I've
Speaker 1: been most impressed with him have been plays that he's
Speaker 1: made down the field. He's hustled to play against the Bengals,
Speaker 1: forced to fumble after we got after we had allowed
Speaker 1: a first down. It got us back in that game,
Speaker 1: and you know, we weren't able to do anything else
Speaker 1: with it. But you know, made that play, made a
Speaker 1: play last week against the Redskins where he was running
Speaker 1: down the field and made plays. And when you're a
Speaker 1: three hundred pound guy, you know you, effort is a
Speaker 1: big thing, and when you're making plays versus the past
Speaker 1: down the field, I think in some ways that's every
Speaker 1: bit as valuable as making a sack. Three hundred pound
Speaker 1: guys hitting smaller guys have chances, the force penalties, and
Speaker 1: he's been consistent against the run. Hasn't got a ton
Speaker 1: of sacks, but he's been effective against the past. But
Speaker 1: I've been most impressed with his effort and its toughness. Well,
Speaker 1: the Thursday night football and all the opinions swirling around
Speaker 1: about it. I know you used to playing on Thursdays
Speaker 1: in Detroit, but as a coordinator, how difficult is it
Speaker 1: to turn around both the physicality and the scheming of
Speaker 1: it and be ready for Thursday Night. You know, scheming
Speaker 1: is a little bit easier for this game because it's
Speaker 1: an opponent that we've already played this year. So with
Speaker 1: a couple changes, you know, we thought they were going
Speaker 1: to give Vareem back, but obviously he's not coming back.
Speaker 1: I think other than that, it's pretty much the same grout.
Speaker 1: The right tackle has changed and they're using their tight
Speaker 1: ends a little different way, but Eli's Eli. Their scheme
Speaker 1: stays the same, which makes it from a from a
Speaker 1: schematic preparation standpoint makes it a little bit easier the
Speaker 1: difficulties in the execution. We have to sort of brainwash
Speaker 1: ourselves into, you know, getting on a scheduled Players are
Speaker 1: very regimented, coaches are very regimented. And told the team
Speaker 1: this morning or told the defense this morning that it's
Speaker 1: Friday right now, and you've got to put your mind
Speaker 1: on today's Friday, tomorrow's Saturday, and then the next day Sunday,
Speaker 1: and you can go on fumes for a week, you know,
Speaker 1: and you have a little chance to catch our breath
Speaker 1: after this observe. I'll pass on that one. That's not
Speaker 1: my job to judge, to judge or observe or anything else.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do my best I can with with
Speaker 1: the defense, and um, you know, really don't have I
Speaker 1: will say this, I like his aggressiveness. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I really respect his decision to go for two to
Speaker 1: win that game. You know, I think that's that sends
Speaker 1: a good statement not only to the team, but to
Speaker 1: the city. And um, you know, let's him know he's
Speaker 1: trying to win. You know, it goes it goes to
Speaker 1: you know, making a call of to heave in the
Speaker 1: first half. We're not playing conservative. We're not you know,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to you know, do anything other than
Speaker 1: go out there. And when I really respect that to
Speaker 1: going for fourth down, you know there'll probably be a
Speaker 1: lot of fourth or a lot of defensive coordinators that
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Bristle at that. I I embraced that also,
Speaker 1: you know, he had chances to keep drives alive. And
Speaker 1: the most important thing in this league is scoring points. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, points points give us some leeway on defense
Speaker 1: and certainly give us a chance to win the game.
Speaker 1: I really respect those things. Over your time with you
Speaker 1: noticed getting particularly ragged. You know, do you pick up
Speaker 1: all of the after effects or anything of it, of
Speaker 1: you know that shifting a schedule or anything like that.
Speaker 1: And I think there's there's obviously given take. I mean,
Speaker 1: and we got same themes all throughout this press conference.
Speaker 1: There's given takes with calls, you know, aggressive call. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: you can stop a lot of things, but you know
Speaker 1: you might set up potential for a big play. You're
Speaker 1: a safety and your ability to you know, go shoot
Speaker 1: your gun and potential to give up a big play.
Speaker 1: I think Thursday Night Football probably the same way. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, there is a there is a challenge to
Speaker 1: get ready that week, but there's also a benefit of
Speaker 1: it and you get that week rest at the end.
Speaker 1: You know, for us, it doesn't it doesn't come into
Speaker 1: great time with only one game to play. When I
Speaker 1: was in Detroit, it came on Thanksgiving with four weeks
Speaker 1: to play behind it. You know, I think a lot
Speaker 1: has been said about that mini buy and things like that.
Speaker 1: There's some benefit to that. Um, you know, I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's calls benefit to anything. Our jobs
Speaker 1: to play the game. If if it's Sunday one o'clock
Speaker 1: or it's Thursday, Um, you know, we go and play.
Speaker 1: And everybody's got the same set of rules when it
Speaker 1: comes to getting ready to play. Outside the Giants blitz
Speaker 1: more than usual. Has that had to do with the
Speaker 1: individual opponents or the need to get more pressure? Um?
Speaker 1: It probably a little bit more individual opponents, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and just and maybe just the way the games have gone. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes though I'd be careful, sometimes it looks
Speaker 1: like a blitz and it's not, you know, referenced that
Speaker 1: that play looks like we're bringing six guys we're really
Speaker 1: only bringing four and two of them are covering the
Speaker 1: guys that are in the backfield. So it looks like
Speaker 1: pressure when it when it might not be. Um. Every
Speaker 1: week's a little bit different. Sometimes there's matchups that you
Speaker 1: want to try to get. Sometimes there's matchups you want
Speaker 1: to try to avoid when it comes to blitz and pressure.
Speaker 1: But regardless of how we do it, whether it's blitz
Speaker 1: or four man pass rush, UM, you know, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: our lifeblood is always going to be putting pressure on
Speaker 1: the passer. I think the best way to succeed in
Speaker 1: this league if you can find a way to do that, Um,
Speaker 1: I think you're going to be successful over the long
Speaker 1: term if you If you struggle to do that, you're
Speaker 1: going to be behind the eight ball the whole time.
Speaker 1: And again, however you do it, you do it where
Speaker 1: you're eliminated and there's some logic and scene play resident
Speaker 1: string up for whatever reason, certain conversation that happens between
Speaker 1: you and the head coach or the front office, or
Speaker 1: do they just need you to play. Whoever you're going
Speaker 1: to play, Well, let me say that I'm I've sat
Speaker 1: in here the chair, I'm going to do exactly what
Speaker 1: the head coach wants to do. I mean, there's no
Speaker 1: question about that, UM, you know. But I think that
Speaker 1: the message that we've received from him has always been
Speaker 1: we're going to do everything we can to win this game.
Speaker 1: And there's no other agenda for this team other than
Speaker 1: winning on Sunday. And you know, maybe sometimes that you know,
Speaker 1: might not be what everybody everybody wants. Maybe some you know, hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's see what this guy can do, or see
Speaker 1: what this guy can do. UM, And we're every week
Speaker 1: we're going to try to, UM, do the best we
Speaker 1: can to win that game and have no other agenda.
Speaker 1: And I think when you can honestly say that, I
Speaker 1: think that, UM, you know, the players respect that. I
Speaker 1: think that everybody can respect that, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: and you feel good about it. I don't like, have
Speaker 1: an agenda other than doing, UM, doing what you think
Speaker 1: is best to win that game, not what you think
Speaker 1: is best for the course of you know, five year
Speaker 1: plan or ten year plan or you know, next year
Speaker 1: or anything else. Talk about where the Giants defense is
Speaker 1: going this season. When last time you played him, you
Speaker 1: guys were pretty much on even ground. They've gone that way.
Speaker 1: You guys are going this way. What's the biggest reason
Speaker 1: in your mind that you guys have maybe going south
Speaker 1: when they went to the other direction. I haven't. I
Speaker 1: haven't spent a lot of time looking at them, So
Speaker 1: I really can I can talk about us. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can talk about us. UM. You know, I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things. We talk about putting pressure on
Speaker 1: the quarterback. We went through a spell where we weren't
Speaker 1: getting very much pressure. We talk about stopping drives on
Speaker 1: third down. We went through a spell maybe not as bad,
Speaker 1: but we're a couple of games where we weren't very
Speaker 1: good on third down. You know, you have to find
Speaker 1: a way to keep big plays from happening. Big plays
Speaker 1: equal scores in this league. You know, I think the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, we've seen some signs. We've seen
Speaker 1: some flashes of us early in the season. The turnovers
Speaker 1: we scored, UM we scored last week. We had a
Speaker 1: couple of big turnovers in this game, one that set
Speaker 1: up a score, another one that kept a potentially game
Speaker 1: clinching score off the board and gave us a chance
Speaker 1: to win that game. You saw some sacks, you saw
Speaker 1: some third downs stops. We just haven't been consistent enough
Speaker 1: over the course of over the course of the whole game,
Speaker 1: and that's where we need to get back to. That's it. Wow,