Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: You guys, I might be a little tired because I
Speaker 2: have completely binge watch a show.
Speaker 1: Oh which one.
Speaker 2: For the last three nights.
Speaker 3: Oh, I hope it's one I've watched. I feel like
Speaker 3: you watch everything I don't watch.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing to do is binge watch a show.
Speaker 2: It was one of those things though, where it was like,
Speaker 2: I can do it again. Yeah, you know, because it
Speaker 2: was It's I I'll say this. I started watching. I
Speaker 2: watched episode one about a month ago and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't really love it. And sometimes the best then
Speaker 2: someone's like, no, watch it again and then watch the
Speaker 2: second episode. You will get hooked. And last night we
Speaker 2: finished Mobland.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've heard it's amazing, but I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 2: You would hate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way I'm watching that. Catherine would love it.
Speaker 1: I've heard it's great. I'm waiting so Nick and I
Speaker 1: can watch it together.
Speaker 2: It's fantastic. He's heard it's great too. I am just
Speaker 2: I am, I am all in. It's just I want
Speaker 2: to run a I want to be I want to
Speaker 2: be a gangsta. Actually, have you ever watched when I
Speaker 2: watched Ozarks, I wanted to do money.
Speaker 1: You wanted to be in the gang Bicycle.
Speaker 2: Like I get really like it. I'm like, I mean literally,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to be Kat McAllister, who is
Speaker 2: like you know, because when you'll you'll understand when you
Speaker 2: watch Moblind. But I'm like the same thing when any
Speaker 2: of it, Like, what was that movie with Oh I
Speaker 2: was back in the day. It was Blake Blake Lively
Speaker 2: and Taylor Kitsch and it was another like uh gang,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I wanted to be semi Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to Amy about this?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I probably should.
Speaker 3: I want to know what there's something about that you
Speaker 3: did start a queendom. We're a little less edgy, but
Speaker 3: we are a gang of swords.
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, like what is it. That's a really
Speaker 2: good question though, because I don't know. But there's something
Speaker 2: about like just it's not even it's not power. It's
Speaker 2: a mixture between just like running it like being a
Speaker 2: boss bay and just like but it's I don't killing
Speaker 2: I don't want to kill anybody obviously, but there's something.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, No, that's not where my brain's going.
Speaker 1: My brain's going I watch these shows and love them,
Speaker 1: but my brain doesn't go to I want to be that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't actually want a money launder or be in
Speaker 2: a gang or.
Speaker 1: Be alistair exactly.
Speaker 2: I just when I watch the shows, there's a piece
Speaker 2: of me that's like I want to get in on it,
Speaker 2: like I want to I want to like be this.
Speaker 1: I don't have that piece either at all. In fact,
Speaker 1: I get sweaty hands because I like this going en dangerously.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel. And I'm not even joking, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I just think I can't even imagine being
Speaker 1: a part of that and like living my mind obviously, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not going to like, let's just get this really clear.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in a gang or any
Speaker 2: of those things like that is so scary, and they
Speaker 2: do terrible things.
Speaker 1: They just like kiss the ring or something. Isn't that
Speaker 1: what's a tap?
Speaker 2: No idea. But when I watch those Sons of the
Speaker 2: Anarchy Moblind shows, it's just like, ooh, juicy, you should
Speaker 2: play in one of those. I would love to or
Speaker 2: whatever act. But yeah, I mean again, I would they
Speaker 2: do terrible things. Let's just make sure, we say all
Speaker 2: that they do terrible, awful things, of course, but the
Speaker 2: movie side of it just is like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it just kind of it's like, this looks fun. I
Speaker 2: want to be the boss, the mob boss.
Speaker 3: I guess I felt that way when I watched Kate Hudson.
Speaker 3: And that's about us that compared I don't know. Everything
Speaker 3: else makes me feel very anxious.
Speaker 2: I'll talk to Amy about it, but I will say
Speaker 2: during the ending, during the last episode that we watched
Speaker 2: last night, this is the funniest part. So we're in bed.
Speaker 2: We always watched the last episode, bet, So we're in bed,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden we hear the gate open.
Speaker 2: So the gate to the stairs at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the stairs, right, gate open like Carols. You hear it
Speaker 2: click open. Right, kids are fast asleep. This is at
Speaker 2: ten thirty at night. I go and sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: if they have a cough or they need water or
Speaker 2: something will come down. But no, I didn't hear any
Speaker 2: pitter powder footsteps coming down the steps. Just a loud clank,
Speaker 2: And so I was like, and by the way, mind
Speaker 2: you again season finale.
Speaker 1: So it's blowing up like.
Speaker 2: There are feeling like there's a lot of like shots
Speaker 2: and it's it's it's like a big sequence scene like
Speaker 2: this is like crazy here the gate, like I go
Speaker 2: Jolie jays. Alan shoots out of the bed, not wearing anything.
Speaker 2: He's like, do we have the gun back? And I'm
Speaker 2: like no, Nick still has it. So now my heart
Speaker 2: starts to like like I don't want to I want
Speaker 2: to again, this is like my inner thought. So like
Speaker 2: he so Nick tried was fixing my gun, so he
Speaker 2: took my gun. So Alan, Alan swings up out of
Speaker 2: bed right and so like puts on some pants or whatever,
Speaker 2: and he's like, where's the bat. I'm like, you're scaring me.
Speaker 2: We need a back. But like we both realized that
Speaker 2: it wasn't Jolie or Jason because he like had kind
Speaker 2: of like peaked.
Speaker 3: And so then I'm like I love that Alan's speaking
Speaker 3: because the gate is not far from it's right there.
Speaker 3: I know, Like logistics, what.
Speaker 2: I do is I then run outside because we have
Speaker 2: a door in our screen and porch. So I start
Speaker 2: to open the door to like run out, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I have my phone. Should we call the cops because
Speaker 2: I'm thinking someone has maybe gone up the stairs or
Speaker 2: something to go grab the kids. Like, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what's happening, So I'm like, should we call
Speaker 2: the cops. He's like, wait one second, where's the bat?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I think it's in the garage like
Speaker 2: breaking out. The gate had broke, so it fell over,
Speaker 2: is what happened? Like the whole gate actually the thing,
Speaker 2: like the side part of it, because the kids are
Speaker 2: always like peah and stuff, so it just kind.
Speaker 1: Of like pops. Yeah, it's kind of terrifying though, I
Speaker 1: feel actually hearing this story. So that's how I know
Speaker 1: I couldn't be a mob boss. Needed to see him
Speaker 1: grab a gun? Alan can he has she shot a gun? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay for some reason, I'm just thinking about Oh that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I never said in Scotland, didn't they shoot? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just not as common over there.
Speaker 2: He would rather grab a bat than a gun, for sure.
Speaker 2: I would rather grab a gun for sure.
Speaker 1: And that'll do.
Speaker 2: So. Yeah, there's that. Anyways, that's what I'm up to.
Speaker 2: Y'all should watch with Mobland.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna have to. I've watched a lot of
Speaker 1: great stuff lately, though, I'm gonna have to watch that.
Speaker 1: I would like to.
Speaker 3: Say, something's gonna be wildly controversial and you didn't see
Speaker 3: it coming. I've been watching something that isn't really great
Speaker 3: What Love Island? Just like that season three?
Speaker 2: Oh, I stilled after day one because one more and
Speaker 2: it was not great.
Speaker 1: It was still bad. I don't know what's happening. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm sorry too, and I'm gonna keep watching. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: unfortunate to shake your head up, yep. And I hate
Speaker 3: that I feel that way.
Speaker 1: I'm really just having a time because I hate that
Speaker 1: I feel that way. Yeah, but they're not.
Speaker 3: Making them as like I think this season has been
Speaker 3: trickier because they're just not as like powerful or in
Speaker 3: their power or something like they're they're so inspiring to
Speaker 3: us always because they're like always a decade ahead of
Speaker 3: us and always just rocking the out of it, you know,
Speaker 3: and like this time they're like falling, and it feels
Speaker 3: a little like defeating you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did watch an episode and they were talking
Speaker 2: about something. Yeah, it was about being old again or something,
Speaker 2: and I was like, all right, I just you guys,
Speaker 2: I have to go back to the fact that I
Speaker 2: don't want to actually be in a gang. Can we
Speaker 2: just go because I just.
Speaker 1: Can't think about me. You definitely don't want to get it.
Speaker 1: This is you would be in panic mode, like you
Speaker 1: couldn't handle it for a second, like for.
Speaker 2: A second or whatever.
Speaker 1: But it's.
Speaker 3: But it's also I didn't say anything because in the
Speaker 3: court of why, I don't ever want my tapes to
Speaker 3: be used.
Speaker 1: So listen.
Speaker 2: I will ask my business manager how we can stretch
Speaker 2: certain things, but he says he'll always keep it above
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: You always do.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to jail because I am
Speaker 2: too I mean, Jinny and Georgia, I am to uh claustrophobic.
Speaker 4: Mind you.
Speaker 2: Also, I got stuck in Ellen's car. Why it was terrible.
Speaker 1: It was awful. I got locked in. Oh it was
Speaker 1: a guy.
Speaker 2: It was it's like this new like crazy, top of
Speaker 2: the line whatever. I stay in the car. He goes
Speaker 2: to runs across the street and it was really hot
Speaker 2: in the car. No, and I pressed, it wasn't unlocked.
Speaker 3: I was like car anyways. So let's just say I
Speaker 3: don't want to be stuck to jail. Cell I know,
Speaker 3: at a minimum, I think that's the things we don't like.
Speaker 3: But also, you're a good person, so it's.
Speaker 1: Just okay, wow, sorry about that. What else?
Speaker 2: Yeah, fors G that's about it. G I'm good, I'm golden.
Speaker 2: Everything's great. Anybody want to I will say this. I
Speaker 2: was so happy with all the feedback we got about
Speaker 2: your carousel story because I wasn't like I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I was very about sharing, and there was a lot
Speaker 2: of moms that were like, yeah, my the mind. Nana
Speaker 2: gave my kid something to eat before I ever gave
Speaker 2: them something to eat, and mom's the first time.
Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, took them dress shopping without them. I mean,
Speaker 3: I've read, I have a lot.
Speaker 2: Sarah Brice gave Jolie whipped cream her first sweet. That
Speaker 2: feels I didn't. That actually feels very unbranded.
Speaker 3: Yeah anyway, Yeah, I will say the one thing that
Speaker 3: came out of this that I didn't see coming, I
Speaker 3: don't even really it just other than it was a
Speaker 3: real life experience, felt like I should share it. But
Speaker 3: a lot of women wrote and said, I'm not a
Speaker 3: mom yet, and I don't know that I would have
Speaker 3: thought obviously they're saying, like, you were.
Speaker 1: So clear, so I wouldn't have done it. But I don't.
Speaker 3: I think that it's a different perspective. And they're like,
Speaker 3: I'm really just thinking of some things at a couple
Speaker 3: of Memi's right, and two Gigi's and they said the
Speaker 3: same thing, like I always want to do these things
Speaker 3: because I'm fung Gigi or me and and I wouldn't
Speaker 3: think of that, And so it was like enlightening for them,
Speaker 3: which I thought was kind of a good thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, can I go to a It's so it's
Speaker 4: not one of our headlines, but it is something I
Speaker 4: do want to discuss if it's possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh maybe an I'm a hero. And I'm like, has.
Speaker 2: Anyone been following the Justin Bieber text threads.
Speaker 1: Some of it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, No I have, Yeah, I'm and I don't.
Speaker 3: It's just not and maybe I just never followed him
Speaker 3: closely before, so I'm trying to like go back. I've
Speaker 3: always loved that he was like Christian, I'm not doing
Speaker 3: this crazy life. You know, he's private ish about him
Speaker 3: and Haley as much as they can be, and the baby.
Speaker 3: But I don't know why. He was at the top
Speaker 3: of my feed the other day and I read it
Speaker 3: and I it was just didn't seem like him, I guess,
Speaker 3: but then I.
Speaker 2: Like sharing the text message threads.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really aggressive text messages with the PY
Speaker 3: word in it, which always is just kind of ugh
Speaker 3: to me, and I didn't know. I guess I thought,
Speaker 3: maybe what did I miss? And is he okay? Did I?
Speaker 1: And then the next one was.
Speaker 3: Just where we was like stop asking if I'm okay,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, okay, but I want to right.
Speaker 1: It feels a little.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: The thing that I'll say around it is what makes
Speaker 2: me sad about it is because people are It's the
Speaker 2: comments of I get asking like are you okay? And
Speaker 2: right he posted out these text messages on there. It's
Speaker 2: the people that are being so rude in the comments
Speaker 2: that make me really sad, because it's like, let's put
Speaker 2: your worst day on social media. Let's put your worst
Speaker 2: fight with your husband, Let's put your worst interaction with someone,
Speaker 2: something that you'd want to take back, and then have
Speaker 2: it judge to the world. Now I get that he
Speaker 2: did it himself. I get that piece. Having said that,
Speaker 2: there are so many things that we do or we
Speaker 2: respond or put out out of just initial humanness. Humanness
Speaker 2: that you know most people don't get judged on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's the piece that I'm like. I get that
Speaker 2: he put it on social media or then people to
Speaker 2: interpret and judge, but it makes me sad. There was
Speaker 2: all the people in the comments. I just wish I
Speaker 2: could just like reply all and say what does your
Speaker 2: worst day look like?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I guess my worry was why was he posting? That
Speaker 3: was the part where I was like, this doesn't seem
Speaker 3: like a coherent thing to post for something.
Speaker 1: Something isn't right, Something's not right there. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't have a strong opinion on it yet, but
Speaker 1: something's not something's off, and I don't know why is
Speaker 1: he posting it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: What do I even believe these days? Is he posting
Speaker 1: it like? I mean, I have a lot of questions
Speaker 1: that go a lot deeper too, But yes, you know,
Speaker 1: low level, Yes, I don't like it. Everybody's judging whatever.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you're literally putting it
Speaker 1: out there, but my thing is I just don't I
Speaker 1: don't know. Is it a cry for help? Is it
Speaker 1: somebody else? Is it publicity? Is he going to end
Speaker 1: up with a conservatives conservative ship? If ship? I can't
Speaker 1: say that word conservative ship like uh Retty's. It's what
Speaker 1: a lot of people think. We're going down that route.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot to this that's not adding
Speaker 1: up yet, and I think that there's going to be
Speaker 1: in the coming months and years. There's going to be
Speaker 1: a lot more to this.
Speaker 3: I think I just don't feel like I picture him
Speaker 3: and I'm not even saying he is this so please
Speaker 3: just here. But like, I don't I wouldn't go of
Speaker 3: all the supposedly unhinged celebrities, he doesn't fall to that
Speaker 3: to me, like, he doesn't fall into that category. So
Speaker 3: I'm just confused, Like I don't know what I've missed.
Speaker 3: I know he's an entrepreneur. I know he's still really great.
Speaker 1: I think it could go either way. I think he's
Speaker 1: been through a lot, and maybe we don't know that
Speaker 1: side of him, or maybe he's not. Maybe he is
Speaker 1: what we think he is and people want him to
Speaker 1: seem crazy. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Something
Speaker 1: is not right about the whole situation, and whether that
Speaker 1: is that we have really believed this, you know, facade
Speaker 1: of him and that's not him at all, and that's okay,
Speaker 1: you know, And maybe this is the real him and
Speaker 1: what's really underneath because he and Dirtle endued a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we really look at it, could he
Speaker 1: could he really be that stable going through I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just there was a lot, a lot has happened
Speaker 1: to him, and those lots so I don't have.
Speaker 2: To like I'm not saying there's a direct link to
Speaker 2: all of it, but with the p Diddy stuff that's
Speaker 2: happening too, I can't imagine whatever did happen exactly that
Speaker 2: he went through, how that can traumatize or.
Speaker 1: Just that you're well, And that's kind of what I mean,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Like we might think that he
Speaker 1: might not have that part of him, but like look
Speaker 1: at what it seems has happened to him with the
Speaker 1: Diddy stuff and other things that we you know, we
Speaker 1: can't confirm, I guess, but it seems that may have
Speaker 1: led him to a place that put him here, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, so I don't know, It's
Speaker 1: it's hard to say for me.
Speaker 2: And as I just say, like have kindness with it, yes,
Speaker 2: you just don't. That's what people like take your worst
Speaker 2: day and put it online.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think at the end of the day, I.
Speaker 2: Wind about it actually is to the is that people
Speaker 2: will just look at someone's stuff and just be terrible
Speaker 2: and be rude.
Speaker 1: To that because I mean, I think, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, no matter what is going on, like
Speaker 1: he deserves some grace. And again I know he's putting
Speaker 1: it out there, but I still think, no matter what,
Speaker 1: whether this is really him, it's not really him. This
Speaker 1: is just something he's going through right now, and he
Speaker 1: just feels like he needs to put it out there.
Speaker 1: Like I think at the end of the day, people
Speaker 1: need to give It's.
Speaker 3: Like Grace had the memories pop up on Facebook of
Speaker 3: like things that you posted ten fifteen years yeah, statuses.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yikes, take me out of this.
Speaker 2: Can the status well rememberings are like why did I
Speaker 2: say that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's making me think of Kanye though,
Speaker 1: like putting stuff out there, starting to put stuff out
Speaker 1: It's very similar situation and like the disappearing coming back.
Speaker 1: Is this him? Is it not? Is he mentally well?
Speaker 1: Is he not? It's just it's giving off a lot
Speaker 1: of those vibes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Olivia mun jokes three year old son is an
Speaker 2: emperor would throw a temper tantrums to see John mulaney.
Speaker 2: The a thing for me on this is, she says,
Speaker 2: Olivia Mon will try anything to get her three year
Speaker 2: old son to stop throwing a temper tantrum. First and foremost,
Speaker 2: so Roman is hands down my hardest child. I mean
Speaker 2: he I would say hard. Well, how do I say this?
Speaker 2: He's my most rebellious, my most wild I'll say, my
Speaker 2: most wild child. Whereas he knows that he's doing something
Speaker 2: wrong too, like that's the thing, like this morning and
Speaker 2: it's happened the other day too, this morning, you know,
Speaker 2: getting ready for breakfast. Two seconds later he's on that tape.
Speaker 2: But the problem is there that there's a bowl with
Speaker 2: all the moss in there, and so he knows it's bad.
Speaker 2: And the people are always saying, don't react and say
Speaker 2: no because then it's giving them attention and like reroute them.
Speaker 2: That's like at his age, he's all about like re routting.
Speaker 2: I've rerouted five million different times to get him away
Speaker 2: from the mall, and I've moved the moss off the table,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, like no, I want that
Speaker 2: there right and he needs to just keeping So the
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand thousand re route this morning. Unfortunately we didn't
Speaker 2: get him there in time, and he takes the big handful,
Speaker 2: throws the moss everywhere, and before we say anything, he
Speaker 2: goes bad bad, like he knows it's bad, buy and
Speaker 2: he still does it because it's.
Speaker 1: So hard when it's not our kid. I want to
Speaker 1: be like, ahole sweet Roman.
Speaker 2: Like the other day Catherine DMed me and she's like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, she looks so cute. I go, there's
Speaker 2: nothing cute about me today.
Speaker 1: I love minus the hair minus hair.
Speaker 2: Like he gives Father's Day And when Alan did his
Speaker 2: like thing, but I mean, it was throwing the moss,
Speaker 2: it was I mean, and then he looks for the
Speaker 2: reaction and it's again not giving him the the no
Speaker 2: react the whole thing it's like, and then rerouting like
Speaker 2: now we're starting to be like Roman, no, that's bad,
Speaker 2: but again he does it, says bad. So my fear
Speaker 2: is that this is this is right at you.
Speaker 3: I love my client so much, though, right, and I
Speaker 3: just don't think he could do anything wrong challenges.
Speaker 2: And here's the other problem too, is he's now at
Speaker 2: the age where he I mean, you should see Alan's
Speaker 2: nose right now. He scratched the shop out of his
Speaker 2: nose and he and it's like and we're like, we're
Speaker 2: trying to teach nice. No nice. I got slapped so
Speaker 2: hard in the face yesterday when I was giving him
Speaker 2: his bottle, Like I'm I'm singing you are my song.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting and saying you make me happy. This guy's
Speaker 2: are like literally singing in the sweetest song. He looks
Speaker 2: at me, slaps the ship out of me, and it
Speaker 2: took everything.
Speaker 1: Doesn't you.
Speaker 3: My first is not sad. I am angry when I
Speaker 3: get hit. It's angry, the boiling.
Speaker 2: Of my body, like and I know and I see
Speaker 2: Alan the same thing, and it's like now normally it's
Speaker 2: just I feel like I was always the one just
Speaker 2: getting hit and punched and chewed and bitten from. But
Speaker 2: now Roman is also doing it to Alan, and I mean,
Speaker 2: but his I was like, I walked down. I was like,
Speaker 2: do I have a baby hand? Because that is hard,
Speaker 2: and I immediately stopped singing and I was like like,
Speaker 2: two your bed now, so okay.
Speaker 1: So I want to take us back.
Speaker 3: In the time capsule because there was I don't even
Speaker 3: know how long we've been doing this altogether, but I
Speaker 3: remember coming to the panel here and saying, I felt
Speaker 3: like I was in a really tricky place and my
Speaker 3: son and I needed a couple's counselors.
Speaker 1: And Jason Legend are just so opposite that you didn't
Speaker 1: know what to say really or how me But have
Speaker 1: you heard that my father in law literally sits at
Speaker 1: the because they're on the same like my nephew, they're
Speaker 1: on the same baseball team. He just sits there and
Speaker 1: laughs at Jana the entire time. She's like running after
Speaker 1: him because and it.
Speaker 3: Was funny because we had a phone call. I am
Speaker 3: going to share something that happened off air. We had
Speaker 3: a phone call like a few weeks ago, and I
Speaker 3: remember you were like, I don't know what's like because
Speaker 3: I said, we just need lying in room and to
Speaker 3: be together. Like she doesn't really have any friends. She's
Speaker 3: always playing, you know with her people like her siblings,
Speaker 3: the biggies, and Cramer's like, well, I I don't know
Speaker 3: if you want to be around room And I said, no,
Speaker 3: I do. I love him and She's like, no, you don't.
Speaker 3: You don't know he's a menace. And I said, oh,
Speaker 3: I think what he is is just a boy yep.
Speaker 1: And Jase is such a j Hender human.
Speaker 3: He's made different than any boy, and no especially for
Speaker 3: a second born.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: Kind of typically the second born being a boy like
Speaker 3: he Jace is.
Speaker 1: I mean, my.
Speaker 3: I was like, Jason, you come here anytime with your
Speaker 3: sweet voice. You sound like a Pixar cartoon like get
Speaker 3: in my life. And Roman is all dude.
Speaker 2: So my fear is back to this headline, is because
Speaker 2: threes are worse. We're literally the worst years of my
Speaker 2: life with both Jolie and Jace. That I mean, Jolie
Speaker 2: was an alligator that had a voice that was trying,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I mean I remember a mom
Speaker 2: just staring at me in bed, bath and beyond trying
Speaker 2: to get Jolie into this car seat three. Jace his
Speaker 2: that was when he started biting. But I mean it
Speaker 2: was it was just so hard. I don't know what
Speaker 2: to do when Roman hits. If this is two, I
Speaker 2: am fucked for three.
Speaker 1: No, okay, yeah, no, yeah, guys, I mean again, So
Speaker 1: is the sweetest kid ever and has been. But he
Speaker 1: was like this, I mean he was hard. He full
Speaker 1: hard at three. Oh, it was kicked in at four
Speaker 1: and then I was like what is happening. I just
Speaker 1: want to say to Olivia, my that's that's the fourth thing.
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say is that every month to
Speaker 1: four it got easy, go easier.
Speaker 2: So just like every month to four and then four
Speaker 2: it's like, there's my sweet it.
Speaker 1: All happens at four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it is. So just deep
Speaker 2: breaths and just know because what she was saying too
Speaker 2: is like, oh Dad's here, they feel calm. Most times
Speaker 2: we're gonna get like I've gotten more punches than like
Speaker 2: Alan will ever get from from Romans. Yeah, what it is?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: So I gotcha girl in Nashville and we can all
Speaker 2: just you know, commiserate on our Listen.
Speaker 3: God gives the parents in which these children need, and
Speaker 3: Roman has.
Speaker 1: The dad he needs.
Speaker 2: How I'm going to.
Speaker 3: But Roman has the dad he needs to Stuart him
Speaker 3: well because his dad is a no nonsense Scottish man.
Speaker 2: Right. But again no nos, no bads, no whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: The other day, I'm like, I I have to I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to figure out how to keep this child alive.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, he's trying to jump over the one chair.
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's gonna hurt, and that's.
Speaker 1: The thing that is scary super normal, Like Jace was
Speaker 1: just cautious, Like, yes, he's a precious, he's all those things,
Speaker 1: but he was cautious. There's a very big difference in
Speaker 1: that cautious kid and you're just rough and tumble kid.
Speaker 1: You have to keep them alive.
Speaker 3: And I did convince myself literally it's that God gives
Speaker 3: I would say depressed all the time. God gave Legend
Speaker 3: the body to help him protect him from his poor choices,
Speaker 3: because it's just so big and sturdy, like he's a
Speaker 3: hoss for like our family specifically, He's just built so
Speaker 3: differently than us that I thought, well, maybe this is it.
Speaker 3: Because if Love would have done that, she would have
Speaker 3: broken four bones. Right, Legend just I mean he he
Speaker 3: would fall over all the time because his head was
Speaker 3: so heavy. I mean he couldn't even walk. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna be great. He's just learning, right.
Speaker 2: Caller Alex. Has anyone seen it on Hulu? Oh?
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it. I've seen a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: about it, but I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2: So I started watching it. I love her. I think
Speaker 2: she is she's awesome. I think what she has built
Speaker 2: her empire just an incredible I'm a big caller, daddy fan.
Speaker 2: I am having an issue with this piece though.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Former Boston University soccer player speaks out after Alex Cooper
Speaker 2: sexual harassment allegations. So there was I can't remember the name,
Speaker 2: but it was how many, but I believe it was
Speaker 2: about one hundred people signed a letter in support of
Speaker 2: coach Nancy Feldman several days after Alex Cooper accused her
Speaker 2: of sexual harassment and her recently released Hulu docu series.
Speaker 2: While the letters stated they do not look to diminish
Speaker 2: or discredit anyone's individual experience, they felt it was necessary
Speaker 2: to share their own perspectives as a united group, saying
Speaker 2: that they never felt unsafe under her leadership. We were
Speaker 2: never at risk or to witness inappropriate behavior or anything
Speaker 2: that could be categorized as sexual harassment. So my kind
Speaker 2: of issue with it is I feel like that then,
Speaker 2: is they're saying they don't want to diminish or descred
Speaker 2: to anyone's experience, But isn't that what it's doing this letter?
Speaker 1: Yes? Right, I mean that's how I feel a little
Speaker 1: bit differently, go, I think you have to be careful
Speaker 1: in these situations on both sides. And who knows what
Speaker 1: happened with this coach and with her, But if you
Speaker 1: truly have one hundred people who feel very strongly that
Speaker 1: this they never saw anything, sometimes I think that person
Speaker 1: deserves that. I think that that coach may deserve to
Speaker 1: have people saying that she didn't in this situation does
Speaker 1: not mean she didn't to Alex. But is it different?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that everyone deserves a way
Speaker 1: to be able to have their truth because we don't
Speaker 1: know what the truth is. So if we just listen
Speaker 1: to what Alex is saying, which I love her, But
Speaker 1: if we're listening to what one person says, shouldn't we
Speaker 1: be able to listen to what a hundred other people
Speaker 1: have to say?
Speaker 2: Though, So I've been following her for a while and
Speaker 2: I looked at her stories. There's other stories that are
Speaker 2: coming out in defense of also Alex, which I think
Speaker 2: is my thing is like why the letter can't they
Speaker 2: then just go on their own social media and being
Speaker 2: like why I never had that experience? Because you're right,
Speaker 2: some people don't have the same experience with other people
Speaker 2: that someone else has. What someone's experience with me at
Speaker 2: a bad day might be someone else's other experience whatever.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I think, I to that point, I
Speaker 2: agree with what you're saying. But then also it's like,
Speaker 2: why make this then petition letter statement, because then that's
Speaker 2: then really taking away what Alex's I mean, or her
Speaker 2: story would her you know, I mean, how that you
Speaker 2: know hurt her in all of that I think takes
Speaker 2: away her voice a bit.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't disagree that it could, but I think
Speaker 1: about certain people that we know, for instance, who have
Speaker 1: been accused of things. I'm not saying Alex is a
Speaker 1: person that we used to work with who went to
Speaker 1: jail for different things.
Speaker 2: Who do we work and they went to jail? Oh
Speaker 2: I'm fine to talk about that. No, no, no, okay, well
Speaker 2: that's fine.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, if I put myself in
Speaker 1: think on that side of it. Yeah, so someone who
Speaker 1: has been accused of something. Again, I do not know
Speaker 1: what happened with this coach and Alex. I am not
Speaker 1: perceiving to, I'm not pretending to. But do I think
Speaker 1: someone like this person that we know who has been
Speaker 1: accused of things deserved and that could have helped him
Speaker 1: in that situation if he had a petition of one
Speaker 1: hundred people saying this is not necessarily the case or feel.
Speaker 2: I hear you, but I'll talk. We can talk about
Speaker 2: this if you want. I think the difference is is
Speaker 2: I'm not going on a platform and I've never defended
Speaker 2: him because I do think his actions as a whole
Speaker 2: is not okay. So I think if I someone that
Speaker 2: I worked with that was a manager that I've known
Speaker 2: for many years when I was nineteen went to jail.
Speaker 2: He was a part of the me too movement, he
Speaker 2: has remained. We do not work together anymore. Yes, he
Speaker 2: has remained though someone I'm truth be told. We haven't
Speaker 2: talked in a couple months for on my own personal
Speaker 2: reasons around a few things. But when he was going
Speaker 2: through all that, I could have easily been like that
Speaker 2: that's not true. And now he did go to court,
Speaker 2: he got cleared because some of the allegations were we're
Speaker 2: not accurate. But his character is still the person like
Speaker 2: he is a very flirty person who steps over the line.
Speaker 2: I can't go on my socials and be like he
Speaker 2: didn't do this because I could have known him, you know,
Speaker 2: family known him since nineteen. I'm not going to discredit
Speaker 2: this woman's truth or story to defend someone that has
Speaker 2: actually been They called him uncle David, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, which, okay, but yes, you see
Speaker 1: my point.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 1: Hundred percent. No, I see your point because you did
Speaker 1: see actions that make you not be able to support him.
Speaker 1: But what if these one hundred people saw nothing and
Speaker 1: fully believe that there are no actions. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that that says I don't know. I don't know these
Speaker 1: hundred people. But if one hundred people feel that strongly
Speaker 1: that they saw no actions, rather, I personally think that
Speaker 1: they have a right to be able to say so
Speaker 1: to help that person's literally it ruined your life. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't quite matter if you are
Speaker 1: found guilty or not. It's there. That's my point, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to get to. If this happened,
Speaker 1: it needs to go to court, and it needs to
Speaker 1: be like handled, and this person needs to go to jail,
Speaker 1: hands down, no questions asked. In my book, however, it
Speaker 1: does ruin your reputation, and I think that's why they
Speaker 1: did this petition because they don't want it.
Speaker 2: You know, past manager agent. Yes, he went to jail.
Speaker 2: It ruined his reputation. Now he's trying to fight back
Speaker 2: his reputation again. The act was acquis acquisite. What is
Speaker 2: the accusations The accusations that he went to jail for
Speaker 2: he got cleared on. That's a reputation that you can't
Speaker 2: he's not going to come back from. And now, you know,
Speaker 2: as someone that has like he's I care about him
Speaker 2: and always will, you know, as a human because we
Speaker 2: have such history. But I could have never straight up
Speaker 2: defended him because I'm like, well, some of those actions
Speaker 2: are not appropriate.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't think that you should have Yea.
Speaker 1: I'm just I think I'm trying to just the only
Speaker 1: that's the closest thing to me.
Speaker 2: That of saying okay, that would ruin you know, his weight,
Speaker 2: because there's so many other people that could say, well
Speaker 2: this person didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the important piece to that was
Speaker 1: them saying they're not trying to discredit her her truth.
Speaker 1: And I understand that you think that does discragu I.
Speaker 2: Feel like it does. I really do. I mean it's
Speaker 2: like it's like someone saying this person, I mean, I
Speaker 2: get what you're saying I do, and it also makes
Speaker 2: me feel like it then takes away her experience of
Speaker 2: what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't disagree with that either. I just
Speaker 1: think that everyone has the right to have both sides heard.
Speaker 2: And to that I agree with you on that, where
Speaker 2: there should be a piece too going Okay, it didn't
Speaker 2: happen to everyone, right.
Speaker 1: And they didn't see the actions and they didn't you
Speaker 1: know whatever. I just think that all of that is
Speaker 1: fair in a situation like this because things can get
Speaker 1: ruined so fast with an allegation. Now, there may be
Speaker 1: twenty other allegations after this, I don't know, but at
Speaker 1: this point it's one allegation and then one hundred people
Speaker 1: saying doesn't mean it didn't happen. But I think that
Speaker 1: it's okay to be heard.
Speaker 3: But they are saying that it didn't not happen, that
Speaker 3: they think it mightn't happen, And that's my point. I
Speaker 3: think them coming in as one hundred people is a message,
Speaker 3: like just the sheer amount of them is something either
Speaker 3: strategic or a message or something. Because to get a
Speaker 3: hundred people to do anything right now actually and then
Speaker 3: to do it in that way, so I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's because they think she's such a force and
Speaker 3: like they would have to come in a hundred strong
Speaker 3: for it to even make a mark, because if one
Speaker 3: person goes on social media and says that's not my
Speaker 3: experience of that person, they're just like an extent right.
Speaker 1: They would have to be a hundred strong. That's what
Speaker 1: I think for sure.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I was a star witness in a
Speaker 3: sexual harassment case at one of my former employments, and
Speaker 3: I didn't have the same I was in the room.
Speaker 3: I'm careful to even share what I share like I
Speaker 3: was in the room. But there are certain things that
Speaker 3: offended this person didn't offend me, right, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And it wasn't that I'm discrediting her experience.
Speaker 3: Was it professional? It wasn't. And I did say those things.
Speaker 3: But I also like, it's just these situations are so
Speaker 3: so tricky, so tricky, and so unfair to anyway an ease.
Speaker 1: I just think that all deserves to be heard.
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, and in this it's like
Speaker 2: it's been hard to see someone that I cared about
Speaker 2: have their reputation for sure, And if someone cares about
Speaker 2: that person, like that coach, and they see that as well.
Speaker 2: That's hard for people to come together. If anybody, I
Speaker 2: would assume that if my reputation, you guys would come
Speaker 2: up one hundred percent, that would do for you guys.
Speaker 2: So I get I do get that.
Speaker 1: I just think that there is a way, and I
Speaker 1: actually think this was done pretty well by saying, we're
Speaker 1: not discrediting discrediting, like if something if you were to
Speaker 1: be accused of something in a heartbeat, I'm not discrediting
Speaker 1: what you said, and your truth may be that she
Speaker 1: did this to you. But what I'm saying is I
Speaker 1: have not seen this happen, and I think that everyone
Speaker 1: deserves to have that.
Speaker 2: Ladies. I'm struggling. I just graduated college last week, and
Speaker 2: I came to college with the same guy I dated
Speaker 2: throughout high school. We broke up and got back together
Speaker 2: multiple times. And each time we would break up, it
Speaker 2: would be because he wasn't treating me well, or he
Speaker 2: just decided all of a sudden he was done with me.
Speaker 2: Then a few months later he would decide he would
Speaker 2: want to get back together and go through a period
Speaker 2: of trying to win me back by going above and
Speaker 2: beyond with large gestures and nice dates. This past year,
Speaker 2: during our senior year, I really thought things were going
Speaker 2: to change, and I was really believing that we can
Speaker 2: make this work. He told me he loved me and
Speaker 2: that I was the one, until one day this past winter,
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, he just decided he was done and
Speaker 2: broke my heart for the third and final time. I
Speaker 2: found out yesterday he's dating someone else from our college.
Speaker 2: Now that I've graduated, I want to have a fresh start,
Speaker 2: but I'm still so hurt. I feel so guarded around
Speaker 2: anyone new, and I don't know how I can trust
Speaker 2: anyone again. How do I move on? I want to
Speaker 2: give her a hug and girl friend, just like you're
Speaker 2: so young. I know she's gonna hate that, but give
Speaker 2: yourself a hug and be so fricking thankful that you're
Speaker 2: not with this dude anymore. Because anybody that cares, loves
Speaker 2: and respects you isn't going to play with your heart
Speaker 2: like that. And you should find the one that is
Speaker 2: going to be there to you know, love you and
Speaker 2: respect you again. The right one will never do this.
Speaker 2: The right one will never leave the right one will
Speaker 2: never play with your heart like that go back and forth,
Speaker 2: hurt you, disrespect you boy bye girl, Go have some fun.
Speaker 2: I feel like I thought I die for a second. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just yeah, exactly like you guys said, I dated my
Speaker 2: high school boyfriend into college.
Speaker 1: It was this. I mean it was literally copy paste
Speaker 1: what she wrote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like, go have some fun, go go, like,
Speaker 2: live your life.
Speaker 1: That's what I think.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I spent too much time worrying about my
Speaker 2: high school speed heart and the boys and all that. Like,
Speaker 2: go travel, go have fun, go be with your girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Then find your man down the line when you know
Speaker 2: exactly what you want and you've and listen again, you
Speaker 2: will trust the right one when it's the right one,
Speaker 2: like I like how I trust my husband, Like when
Speaker 2: it's the right one. They respect you.
Speaker 1: Yep, bottom line boom.
Speaker 2: All right, ladies, see you next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah,