WEBVTT - Wild Child

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys, I might be a little tired because I

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<v Speaker 2>have completely binge watch a show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh which one.

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<v Speaker 2>For the last three nights.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I hope it's one I've watched. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you watch everything I don't watch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite thing to do is binge watch a show.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of those things though, where it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can do it again. Yeah, you know, because it

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<v Speaker 2>was It's I I'll say this. I started watching. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched episode one about a month ago and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really love it. And sometimes the best then

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<v Speaker 2>someone's like, no, watch it again and then watch the

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<v Speaker 2>second episode. You will get hooked. And last night we

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<v Speaker 2>finished Mobland.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've heard it's amazing, but I haven't watched it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You would hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no way I'm watching that. Catherine would love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it's great. I'm waiting so Nick and I

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<v Speaker 1>can watch it together.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic. He's heard it's great too. I am just

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<v Speaker 2>I am, I am all in. It's just I want

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<v Speaker 2>to run a I want to be I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a gangsta. Actually, have you ever watched when I

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<v Speaker 2>watched Ozarks, I wanted to do money.

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<v Speaker 1>You wanted to be in the gang Bicycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I get really like it. I'm like, I mean literally,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I want to be Kat McAllister, who is

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, because when you'll you'll understand when you

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<v Speaker 2>watch Moblind. But I'm like the same thing when any

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<v Speaker 2>of it, Like, what was that movie with Oh I

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<v Speaker 2>was back in the day. It was Blake Blake Lively

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<v Speaker 2>and Taylor Kitsch and it was another like uh gang,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I wanted to be semi Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever talked to Amy about this?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I probably should.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know what there's something about that you

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<v Speaker 3>did start a queendom. We're a little less edgy, but

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<v Speaker 3>we are a gang of swords.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just wondering, like what is it. That's a really

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<v Speaker 2>good question though, because I don't know. But there's something

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<v Speaker 2>about like just it's not even it's not power. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a mixture between just like running it like being a

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<v Speaker 2>boss bay and just like but it's I don't killing

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to kill anybody obviously, but there's something.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking, No, that's not where my brain's going.

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<v Speaker 1>My brain's going I watch these shows and love them,

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<v Speaker 1>but my brain doesn't go to I want to be that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't actually want a money launder or be in

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<v Speaker 2>a gang or.

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<v Speaker 1>Be alistair exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I just when I watch the shows, there's a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of me that's like I want to get in on it,

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<v Speaker 2>like I want to I want to like be this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that piece either at all. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I get sweaty hands because I like this going en dangerously.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel. And I'm not even joking, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just think I can't even imagine being

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that and like living my mind obviously, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not going to like, let's just get this really clear.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be in a gang or any

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<v Speaker 2>of those things like that is so scary, and they

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<v Speaker 2>do terrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>They just like kiss the ring or something. Isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>what's a tap?

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<v Speaker 2>No idea. But when I watch those Sons of the

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<v Speaker 2>Anarchy Moblind shows, it's just like, ooh, juicy, you should

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<v Speaker 2>play in one of those. I would love to or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever act. But yeah, I mean again, I would they

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<v Speaker 2>do terrible things. Let's just make sure, we say all

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<v Speaker 2>that they do terrible, awful things, of course, but the

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<v Speaker 2>movie side of it just is like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just kind of it's like, this looks fun. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be the boss, the mob boss.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I felt that way when I watched Kate Hudson.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's about us that compared I don't know. Everything

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<v Speaker 3>else makes me feel very anxious.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll talk to Amy about it, but I will say

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<v Speaker 2>during the ending, during the last episode that we watched

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<v Speaker 2>last night, this is the funniest part. So we're in bed.

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<v Speaker 2>We always watched the last episode, bet, So we're in bed,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden we hear the gate open.

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<v Speaker 2>So the gate to the stairs at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the stairs, right, gate open like Carols. You hear it

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<v Speaker 2>click open. Right, kids are fast asleep. This is at

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty at night. I go and sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if they have a cough or they need water or

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<v Speaker 2>something will come down. But no, I didn't hear any

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<v Speaker 2>pitter powder footsteps coming down the steps. Just a loud clank,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, and by the way, mind

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<v Speaker 2>you again season finale.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's blowing up like.

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<v Speaker 2>There are feeling like there's a lot of like shots

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's it's like a big sequence scene like

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<v Speaker 2>this is like crazy here the gate, like I go

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<v Speaker 2>Jolie jays. Alan shoots out of the bed, not wearing anything.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, do we have the gun back? And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like no, Nick still has it. So now my heart

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<v Speaker 2>starts to like like I don't want to I want

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<v Speaker 2>to again, this is like my inner thought. So like

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<v Speaker 2>he so Nick tried was fixing my gun, so he

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<v Speaker 2>took my gun. So Alan, Alan swings up out of

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<v Speaker 2>bed right and so like puts on some pants or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, where's the bat. I'm like, you're scaring me.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a back. But like we both realized that

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't Jolie or Jason because he like had kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like peaked.

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<v Speaker 3>And so then I'm like I love that Alan's speaking

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<v Speaker 3>because the gate is not far from it's right there.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, Like logistics, what.

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<v Speaker 2>I do is I then run outside because we have

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<v Speaker 2>a door in our screen and porch. So I start

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<v Speaker 2>to open the door to like run out, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have my phone. Should we call the cops because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking someone has maybe gone up the stairs or

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<v Speaker 2>something to go grab the kids. Like, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's happening, So I'm like, should we call

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<v Speaker 2>the cops. He's like, wait one second, where's the bat?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I think it's in the garage like

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<v Speaker 2>breaking out. The gate had broke, so it fell over,

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<v Speaker 2>is what happened? Like the whole gate actually the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like the side part of it, because the kids are

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<v Speaker 2>always like peah and stuff, so it just kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like pops. Yeah, it's kind of terrifying though, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel actually hearing this story. So that's how I know

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't be a mob boss. Needed to see him

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<v Speaker 1>grab a gun? Alan can he has she shot a gun? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay for some reason, I'm just thinking about Oh that's true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I never said in Scotland, didn't they shoot? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not as common over there.

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<v Speaker 2>He would rather grab a bat than a gun, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather grab a gun for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And that'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>So. Yeah, there's that. Anyways, that's what I'm up to.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all should watch with Mobland.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm gonna have to. I've watched a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great stuff lately, though, I'm gonna have to watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, something's gonna be wildly controversial and you didn't see

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<v Speaker 3>it coming. I've been watching something that isn't really great

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<v Speaker 3>What Love Island? Just like that season three?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I stilled after day one because one more and

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<v Speaker 2>it was not great.

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<v Speaker 1>It was still bad. I don't know what's happening. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm sorry too, and I'm gonna keep watching. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunate to shake your head up, yep. And I hate

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<v Speaker 3>that I feel that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really just having a time because I hate that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that way. Yeah, but they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Making them as like I think this season has been

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<v Speaker 3>trickier because they're just not as like powerful or in

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<v Speaker 3>their power or something like they're they're so inspiring to

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<v Speaker 3>us always because they're like always a decade ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>us and always just rocking the out of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and like this time they're like falling, and it feels

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<v Speaker 3>a little like defeating you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did watch an episode and they were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about something. Yeah, it was about being old again or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, all right, I just you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go back to the fact that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to actually be in a gang. Can we

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<v Speaker 2>just go because I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't think about me. You definitely don't want to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is you would be in panic mode, like you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't handle it for a second, like for.

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<v Speaker 2>A second or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also I didn't say anything because in the

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<v Speaker 3>court of why, I don't ever want my tapes to

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<v Speaker 3>be used.

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<v Speaker 1>So listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I will ask my business manager how we can stretch

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<v Speaker 2>certain things, but he says he'll always keep it above

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You always do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go to jail because I am

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<v Speaker 2>too I mean, Jinny and Georgia, I am to uh claustrophobic.

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<v Speaker 4>Mind you.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I got stuck in Ellen's car. Why it was terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It was awful. I got locked in. Oh it was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it's like this new like crazy, top of

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<v Speaker 2>the line whatever. I stay in the car. He goes

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<v Speaker 2>to runs across the street and it was really hot

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<v Speaker 2>in the car. No, and I pressed, it wasn't unlocked.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like car anyways. So let's just say I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be stuck to jail. Cell I know,

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<v Speaker 3>at a minimum, I think that's the things we don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>But also, you're a good person, so it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just okay, wow, sorry about that. What else?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fors G that's about it. G I'm good, I'm golden.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's great. Anybody want to I will say this. I

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<v Speaker 2>was so happy with all the feedback we got about

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<v Speaker 2>your carousel story because I wasn't like I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was very about sharing, and there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of moms that were like, yeah, my the mind. Nana

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<v Speaker 2>gave my kid something to eat before I ever gave

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<v Speaker 2>them something to eat, and mom's the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, ah, took them dress shopping without them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I've read, I have a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Brice gave Jolie whipped cream her first sweet. That

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<v Speaker 2>feels I didn't. That actually feels very unbranded.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah anyway, Yeah, I will say the one thing that

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<v Speaker 3>came out of this that I didn't see coming, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even really it just other than it was a

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<v Speaker 3>real life experience, felt like I should share it. But

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of women wrote and said, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 3>mom yet, and I don't know that I would have

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<v Speaker 3>thought obviously they're saying, like, you were.

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<v Speaker 1>So clear, so I wouldn't have done it. But I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it's a different perspective. And they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really just thinking of some things at a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of Memi's right, and two Gigi's and they said the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing, like I always want to do these things

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm fung Gigi or me and and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>think of that, And so it was like enlightening for them,

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<v Speaker 3>which I thought was kind of a good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, can I go to a It's so it's

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<v Speaker 4>not one of our headlines, but it is something I

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<v Speaker 4>do want to discuss if it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh maybe an I'm a hero. And I'm like, has.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone been following the Justin Bieber text threads.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go ahead, No I have, Yeah, I'm and I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not and maybe I just never followed him

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<v Speaker 3>closely before, so I'm trying to like go back. I've

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<v Speaker 3>always loved that he was like Christian, I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 3>this crazy life. You know, he's private ish about him

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<v Speaker 3>and Haley as much as they can be, and the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know why. He was at the top

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<v Speaker 3>of my feed the other day and I read it

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<v Speaker 3>and I it was just didn't seem like him, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>but then I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sharing the text message threads.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was really aggressive text messages with the PY

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<v Speaker 3>word in it, which always is just kind of ugh

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<v Speaker 3>to me, and I didn't know. I guess I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe what did I miss? And is he okay? Did I?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the next one was.

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<v Speaker 3>Just where we was like stop asking if I'm okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, oh, okay, but I want to right.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels a little.

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that I'll say around it is what makes

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<v Speaker 2>me sad about it is because people are It's the

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<v Speaker 2>comments of I get asking like are you okay? And

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<v Speaker 2>right he posted out these text messages on there. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are being so rude in the comments

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<v Speaker 2>that make me really sad, because it's like, let's put

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<v Speaker 2>your worst day on social media. Let's put your worst

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<v Speaker 2>fight with your husband, Let's put your worst interaction with someone,

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<v Speaker 2>something that you'd want to take back, and then have

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<v Speaker 2>it judge to the world. Now I get that he

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<v Speaker 2>did it himself. I get that piece. Having said that,

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<v Speaker 2>there are so many things that we do or we

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<v Speaker 2>respond or put out out of just initial humanness. Humanness

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<v Speaker 2>that you know most people don't get judged on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's the piece that I'm like. I get that

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<v Speaker 2>he put it on social media or then people to

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<v Speaker 2>interpret and judge, but it makes me sad. There was

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<v Speaker 2>all the people in the comments. I just wish I

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<v Speaker 2>could just like reply all and say what does your

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<v Speaker 2>worst day look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess my worry was why was he posting? That

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<v Speaker 3>was the part where I was like, this doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>like a coherent thing to post for something.

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<v Speaker 1>Something isn't right, Something's not right there. I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a strong opinion on it yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>something's not something's off, and I don't know why is

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<v Speaker 1>he posting it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>What do I even believe these days? Is he posting

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<v Speaker 1>it like? I mean, I have a lot of questions

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<v Speaker 1>that go a lot deeper too, But yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>low level, Yes, I don't like it. Everybody's judging whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, if you're literally putting it

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<v Speaker 1>out there, but my thing is I just don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Is it a cry for help? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else? Is it publicity? Is he going to end

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<v Speaker 1>up with a conservatives conservative ship? If ship? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>say that word conservative ship like uh Retty's. It's what

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people think. We're going down that route.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a lot to this that's not adding

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<v Speaker 1>up yet, and I think that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the coming months and years. There's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more to this.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I just don't feel like I picture him

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not even saying he is this so please

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<v Speaker 3>just here. But like, I don't I wouldn't go of

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<v Speaker 3>all the supposedly unhinged celebrities, he doesn't fall to that

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<v Speaker 3>to me, like, he doesn't fall into that category. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just confused, Like I don't know what I've missed.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's an entrepreneur. I know he's still really great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it could go either way. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>been through a lot, and maybe we don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>side of him, or maybe he's not. Maybe he is

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<v Speaker 1>what we think he is and people want him to

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<v Speaker 1>seem crazy. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Something

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<v Speaker 1>is not right about the whole situation, and whether that

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<v Speaker 1>is that we have really believed this, you know, facade

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<v Speaker 1>of him and that's not him at all, and that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And maybe this is the real him and

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<v Speaker 1>what's really underneath because he and Dirtle endued a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we really look at it, could he

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<v Speaker 1>could he really be that stable going through I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just there was a lot, a lot has happened

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<v Speaker 1>to him, and those lots so I don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>To like I'm not saying there's a direct link to

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<v Speaker 2>all of it, but with the p Diddy stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>happening too, I can't imagine whatever did happen exactly that

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<v Speaker 2>he went through, how that can traumatize or.

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<v Speaker 1>Just that you're well, And that's kind of what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean. Like we might think that he

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<v Speaker 1>might not have that part of him, but like look

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<v Speaker 1>at what it seems has happened to him with the

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<v Speaker 1>Diddy stuff and other things that we you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't confirm, I guess, but it seems that may have

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<v Speaker 1>led him to a place that put him here, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like, so I don't know, It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to say for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I just say, like have kindness with it, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't. That's what people like take your worst

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<v Speaker 2>day and put it online.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think at the end of the day, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wind about it actually is to the is that people

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<v Speaker 2>will just look at someone's stuff and just be terrible

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<v Speaker 2>and be rude.

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<v Speaker 1>To that because I mean, I think, at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, no matter what is going on, like

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<v Speaker 1>he deserves some grace. And again I know he's putting

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<v Speaker 1>it out there, but I still think, no matter what,

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<v Speaker 1>whether this is really him, it's not really him. This

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<v Speaker 1>is just something he's going through right now, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just feels like he needs to put it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think at the end of the day, people

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<v Speaker 1>need to give It's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Grace had the memories pop up on Facebook of

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<v Speaker 3>like things that you posted ten fifteen years yeah, statuses.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yikes, take me out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Can the status well rememberings are like why did I

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<v Speaker 2>say that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's making me think of Kanye though,

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<v Speaker 1>like putting stuff out there, starting to put stuff out

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<v Speaker 1>It's very similar situation and like the disappearing coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this him? Is it not? Is he mentally well?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he not? It's just it's giving off a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those vibes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Olivia mun jokes three year old son is an

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<v Speaker 2>emperor would throw a temper tantrums to see John mulaney.

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<v Speaker 2>The a thing for me on this is, she says,

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<v Speaker 2>Olivia Mon will try anything to get her three year

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<v Speaker 2>old son to stop throwing a temper tantrum. First and foremost,

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<v Speaker 2>so Roman is hands down my hardest child. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he I would say hard. Well, how do I say this?

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<v Speaker 2>He's my most rebellious, my most wild I'll say, my

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<v Speaker 2>most wild child. Whereas he knows that he's doing something

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<v Speaker 2>wrong too, like that's the thing, like this morning and

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<v Speaker 2>it's happened the other day too, this morning, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready for breakfast. Two seconds later he's on that tape.

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<v Speaker 2>But the problem is there that there's a bowl with

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<v Speaker 2>all the moss in there, and so he knows it's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And the people are always saying, don't react and say

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<v Speaker 2>no because then it's giving them attention and like reroute them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like at his age, he's all about like re routting.

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<v Speaker 2>I've rerouted five million different times to get him away

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<v Speaker 2>from the mall, and I've moved the moss off the table,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, like no, I want that

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<v Speaker 2>there right and he needs to just keeping So the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen thousand thousand re route this morning. Unfortunately we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get him there in time, and he takes the big handful,

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<v Speaker 2>throws the moss everywhere, and before we say anything, he

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<v Speaker 2>goes bad bad, like he knows it's bad, buy and

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<v Speaker 2>he still does it because it's.

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<v Speaker 1>So hard when it's not our kid. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, ahole sweet Roman.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the other day Catherine DMed me and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, she looks so cute. I go, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing cute about me today.

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<v Speaker 1>I love minus the hair minus hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he gives Father's Day And when Alan did his

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<v Speaker 2>like thing, but I mean, it was throwing the moss,

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<v Speaker 2>it was I mean, and then he looks for the

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<v Speaker 2>reaction and it's again not giving him the the no

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<v Speaker 2>react the whole thing it's like, and then rerouting like

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<v Speaker 2>now we're starting to be like Roman, no, that's bad,

0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.200
<v Speaker 2>but again he does it, says bad. So my fear

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<v Speaker 2>is that this is this is right at you.

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<v Speaker 3>I love my client so much, though, right, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just don't think he could do anything wrong challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the other problem too, is he's now at

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<v Speaker 2>the age where he I mean, you should see Alan's

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<v Speaker 2>nose right now. He scratched the shop out of his

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<v Speaker 2>nose and he and it's like and we're like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to teach nice. No nice. I got slapped so

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<v Speaker 2>hard in the face yesterday when I was giving him

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<v Speaker 2>his bottle, Like I'm I'm singing you are my song.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting and saying you make me happy. This guy's

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<v Speaker 2>are like literally singing in the sweetest song. He looks

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<v Speaker 2>at me, slaps the ship out of me, and it

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<v Speaker 2>took everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't you.

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<v Speaker 3>My first is not sad. I am angry when I

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<v Speaker 3>get hit. It's angry, the boiling.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my body, like and I know and I see

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<v Speaker 2>Alan the same thing, and it's like now normally it's

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<v Speaker 2>just I feel like I was always the one just

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<v Speaker 2>getting hit and punched and chewed and bitten from. But

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<v Speaker 2>now Roman is also doing it to Alan, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>but his I was like, I walked down. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>do I have a baby hand? Because that is hard,

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<v Speaker 2>and I immediately stopped singing and I was like like,

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<v Speaker 2>two your bed now, so okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to take us back.

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<v Speaker 3>In the time capsule because there was I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know how long we've been doing this altogether, but I

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<v Speaker 3>remember coming to the panel here and saying, I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like I was in a really tricky place and my

0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.040
<v Speaker 3>son and I needed a couple's counselors.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jason Legend are just so opposite that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to say really or how me But have

0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you heard that my father in law literally sits at

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<v Speaker 1>the because they're on the same like my nephew, they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the same baseball team. He just sits there and

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<v Speaker 1>laughs at Jana the entire time. She's like running after

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<v Speaker 1>him because and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was funny because we had a phone call. I am

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<v Speaker 3>going to share something that happened off air. We had

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<v Speaker 3>a phone call like a few weeks ago, and I

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<v Speaker 3>remember you were like, I don't know what's like because

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<v Speaker 3>I said, we just need lying in room and to

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<v Speaker 3>be together. Like she doesn't really have any friends. She's

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<v Speaker 3>always playing, you know with her people like her siblings,

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<v Speaker 3>the biggies, and Cramer's like, well, I I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to be around room And I said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I love him and She's like, no, you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know he's a menace. And I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I think what he is is just a boy yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jase is such a j Hender human.

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<v Speaker 3>He's made different than any boy, and no especially for

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<v Speaker 3>a second born.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of typically the second born being a boy like

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<v Speaker 3>he Jace is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Jason, you come here anytime with your

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<v Speaker 3>sweet voice. You sound like a Pixar cartoon like get

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<v Speaker 3>in my life. And Roman is all dude.

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<v Speaker 2>So my fear is back to this headline, is because

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<v Speaker 2>threes are worse. We're literally the worst years of my

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<v Speaker 2>life with both Jolie and Jace. That I mean, Jolie

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<v Speaker 2>was an alligator that had a voice that was trying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, I mean I remember a mom

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<v Speaker 2>just staring at me in bed, bath and beyond trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get Jolie into this car seat three. Jace his

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<v Speaker 2>that was when he started biting. But I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was just so hard. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do when Roman hits. If this is two, I

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<v Speaker 2>am fucked for three.

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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, yeah, no, yeah, guys, I mean again, So

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<v Speaker 1>is the sweetest kid ever and has been. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was like this, I mean he was hard. He full

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<v Speaker 1>hard at three. Oh, it was kicked in at four

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was like what is happening. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to say to Olivia, my that's that's the fourth thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was gonna say is that every month to

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:19.720
<v Speaker 1>four it got easy, go easier.

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 2>So just like every month to four and then four

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, there's my sweet it.

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:26.120
<v Speaker 1>All happens at four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know what it is. So just deep

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 2>breaths and just know because what she was saying too

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.359
<v Speaker 2>is like, oh Dad's here, they feel calm. Most times

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.800
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get like I've gotten more punches than like

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Alan will ever get from from Romans. Yeah, what it is?

0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:40.639
<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>So I gotcha girl in Nashville and we can all

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 2>just you know, commiserate on our Listen.

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:52.280
<v Speaker 3>God gives the parents in which these children need, and

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<v Speaker 3>Roman has.

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<v Speaker 1>The dad he needs.

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<v Speaker 2>How I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 3>But Roman has the dad he needs to Stuart him

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<v Speaker 3>well because his dad is a no nonsense Scottish man.

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Right. But again no nos, no bads, no whatever.

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day, I'm like, I I have to I'm

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to figure out how to keep this child alive.

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Like I mean, he's trying to jump over the one chair.

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, he's gonna hurt, and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that is scary super normal, Like Jace was

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 1>just cautious, Like, yes, he's a precious, he's all those things,

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.960
<v Speaker 1>but he was cautious. There's a very big difference in

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that cautious kid and you're just rough and tumble kid.

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>You have to keep them alive.

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<v Speaker 3>And I did convince myself literally it's that God gives

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 3>I would say depressed all the time. God gave Legend

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.639
<v Speaker 3>the body to help him protect him from his poor choices,

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 3>because it's just so big and sturdy, like he's a

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.679
<v Speaker 3>hoss for like our family specifically, He's just built so

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 3>differently than us that I thought, well, maybe this is it.

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Because if Love would have done that, she would have

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 3>broken four bones. Right, Legend just I mean he he

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 3>would fall over all the time because his head was

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 3>so heavy. I mean he couldn't even walk. Yeah, he's

0:23:56.080 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna he's gonna be great. He's just learning, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Caller Alex. Has anyone seen it on Hulu? Oh?

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched it. I've seen a lot of stuff

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:05.679
<v Speaker 1>about it, but I haven't watched it.

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 2>So I started watching it. I love her. I think

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 2>she is she's awesome. I think what she has built

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 2>her empire just an incredible I'm a big caller, daddy fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I am having an issue with this piece though.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Former Boston University soccer player speaks out after Alex Cooper

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<v Speaker 2>sexual harassment allegations. So there was I can't remember the name,

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 2>but it was how many, but I believe it was

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<v Speaker 2>about one hundred people signed a letter in support of

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<v Speaker 2>coach Nancy Feldman several days after Alex Cooper accused her

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<v Speaker 2>of sexual harassment and her recently released Hulu docu series.

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<v Speaker 2>While the letters stated they do not look to diminish

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<v Speaker 2>or discredit anyone's individual experience, they felt it was necessary

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 2>to share their own perspectives as a united group, saying

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 2>that they never felt unsafe under her leadership. We were

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 2>never at risk or to witness inappropriate behavior or anything

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 2>that could be categorized as sexual harassment. So my kind

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 2>of issue with it is I feel like that then,

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.919
<v Speaker 2>is they're saying they don't want to diminish or descred

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 2>to anyone's experience, But isn't that what it's doing this letter?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Right, I mean that's how I feel a little

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 1>bit differently, go, I think you have to be careful

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>in these situations on both sides. And who knows what

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>happened with this coach and with her, But if you

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:42.239
<v Speaker 1>truly have one hundred people who feel very strongly that

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>this they never saw anything, sometimes I think that person

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>deserves that. I think that that coach may deserve to

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>have people saying that she didn't in this situation does

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>not mean she didn't to Alex. But is it different?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think that everyone deserves a way

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to have their truth because we don't

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>know what the truth is. So if we just listen

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to what Alex is saying, which I love her, But

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>if we're listening to what one person says, shouldn't we

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>be able to listen to what a hundred other people

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>have to say?

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Though, So I've been following her for a while and

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I looked at her stories. There's other stories that are

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 2>coming out in defense of also Alex, which I think

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 2>is my thing is like why the letter can't they

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 2>then just go on their own social media and being

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 2>like why I never had that experience? Because you're right,

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 2>some people don't have the same experience with other people

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 2>that someone else has. What someone's experience with me at

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 2>a bad day might be someone else's other experience whatever.

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, I think, I to that point, I

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 2>agree with what you're saying. But then also it's like,

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 2>why make this then petition letter statement, because then that's

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:56.239
<v Speaker 2>then really taking away what Alex's I mean, or her

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 2>story would her you know, I mean, how that you

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 2>know hurt her in all of that I think takes

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 2>away her voice a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't disagree that it could, but I think

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 1>about certain people that we know, for instance, who have

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>been accused of things. I'm not saying Alex is a

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>person that we used to work with who went to

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>jail for different things.

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Who do we work and they went to jail? Oh

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine to talk about that. No, no, no, okay, well

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 2>that's fine.

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm saying is, if I put myself in

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>think on that side of it. Yeah, so someone who

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.479
<v Speaker 1>has been accused of something. Again, I do not know

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>what happened with this coach and Alex. I am not

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 1>perceiving to, I'm not pretending to. But do I think

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>someone like this person that we know who has been

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>accused of things deserved and that could have helped him

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>in that situation if he had a petition of one

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred people saying this is not necessarily the case or feel.

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I hear you, but I'll talk. We can talk about

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 2>this if you want. I think the difference is is

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going on a platform and I've never defended

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 2>him because I do think his actions as a whole

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>is not okay. So I think if I someone that

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I worked with that was a manager that I've known

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>for many years when I was nineteen went to jail.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>He was a part of the me too movement, he

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>has remained. We do not work together anymore. Yes, he

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>has remained though someone I'm truth be told. We haven't

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 2>talked in a couple months for on my own personal

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>reasons around a few things. But when he was going

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>through all that, I could have easily been like that

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>that's not true. And now he did go to court,

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 2>he got cleared because some of the allegations were we're

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>not accurate. But his character is still the person like

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>he is a very flirty person who steps over the line.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I can't go on my socials and be like he

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't do this because I could have known him, you know,

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 2>family known him since nineteen. I'm not going to discredit

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>this woman's truth or story to defend someone that has

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>actually been They called him uncle David, you.

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean, which, okay, but yes, you see

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>my point.

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred percent. No, I see your point because you did

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>see actions that make you not be able to support him.

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>But what if these one hundred people saw nothing and

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>fully believe that there are no actions. I'm not saying

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that that says I don't know. I don't know these

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>hundred people. But if one hundred people feel that strongly

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that they saw no actions, rather, I personally think that

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>they have a right to be able to say so

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to help that person's literally it ruined your life. Again,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it doesn't quite matter if you are

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>found guilty or not. It's there. That's my point, right,

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm trying to get to. If this happened,

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>it needs to go to court, and it needs to

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>be like handled, and this person needs to go to jail,

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>hands down, no questions asked. In my book, however, it

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>does ruin your reputation, and I think that's why they

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>did this petition because they don't want it.

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, past manager agent. Yes, he went to jail.

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>It ruined his reputation. Now he's trying to fight back

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>his reputation again. The act was acquis acquisite. What is

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>the accusations The accusations that he went to jail for

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>he got cleared on. That's a reputation that you can't

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 2>he's not going to come back from. And now, you know,

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>as someone that has like he's I care about him

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>and always will, you know, as a human because we

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>have such history. But I could have never straight up

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>defended him because I'm like, well, some of those actions

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>are not appropriate.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I don't think that you should have Yea.

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I think I'm trying to just the only

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the closest thing to me.

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>That of saying okay, that would ruin you know, his weight,

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>because there's so many other people that could say, well

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 2>this person didn't do that.

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think the important piece to that was

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>them saying they're not trying to discredit her her truth.

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And I understand that you think that does discragu I.

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Feel like it does. I really do. I mean it's

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.719
<v Speaker 2>like it's like someone saying this person, I mean, I

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 2>get what you're saying I do, and it also makes

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>me feel like it then takes away her experience of

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 2>what happened.

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I don't disagree with that either. I just

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>think that everyone has the right to have both sides heard.

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 2>And to that I agree with you on that, where

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 2>there should be a piece too going Okay, it didn't

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>happen to everyone, right.

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And they didn't see the actions and they didn't you

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>know whatever. I just think that all of that is

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>fair in a situation like this because things can get

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>ruined so fast with an allegation. Now, there may be

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty other allegations after this, I don't know, but at

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>this point it's one allegation and then one hundred people

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>saying doesn't mean it didn't happen. But I think that

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>it's okay to be heard.

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 3>But they are saying that it didn't not happen, that

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>they think it mightn't happen, And that's my point. I

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 3>think them coming in as one hundred people is a message,

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 3>like just the sheer amount of them is something either

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 3>strategic or a message or something. Because to get a

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 3>hundred people to do anything right now actually and then

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 3>to do it in that way, so I don't know

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 3>if it's because they think she's such a force and

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 3>like they would have to come in a hundred strong

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>for it to even make a mark, because if one

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 3>person goes on social media and says that's not my

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 3>experience of that person, they're just like an extent right.

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>They would have to be a hundred strong. That's what

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I think for sure.

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I was a star witness in a

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 3>sexual harassment case at one of my former employments, and

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have the same I was in the room.

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm careful to even share what I share like I

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 3>was in the room. But there are certain things that

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 3>offended this person didn't offend me, right, you know what

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. And it wasn't that I'm discrediting her experience.

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Was it professional? It wasn't. And I did say those things.

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 3>But I also like, it's just these situations are so

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 3>so tricky, so tricky, and so unfair to anyway an ease.

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I just think that all deserves to be heard.

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I hear what you're saying, and in this it's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's been hard to see someone that I cared about

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<v Speaker 2>have their reputation for sure, And if someone cares about

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<v Speaker 2>that person, like that coach, and they see that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hard for people to come together. If anybody, I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume that if my reputation, you guys would come

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<v Speaker 2>up one hundred percent, that would do for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get I do get that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that there is a way, and I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think this was done pretty well by saying, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not discrediting discrediting, like if something if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>be accused of something in a heartbeat, I'm not discrediting

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<v Speaker 1>what you said, and your truth may be that she

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<v Speaker 1>did this to you. But what I'm saying is I

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<v Speaker 1>have not seen this happen, and I think that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>deserves to have that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies. I'm struggling. I just graduated college last week, and

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<v Speaker 2>I came to college with the same guy I dated

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<v Speaker 2>throughout high school. We broke up and got back together

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times. And each time we would break up, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be because he wasn't treating me well, or he

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<v Speaker 2>just decided all of a sudden he was done with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Then a few months later he would decide he would

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<v Speaker 2>want to get back together and go through a period

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<v Speaker 2>of trying to win me back by going above and

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<v Speaker 2>beyond with large gestures and nice dates. This past year,

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<v Speaker 2>during our senior year, I really thought things were going

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<v Speaker 2>to change, and I was really believing that we can

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<v Speaker 2>make this work. He told me he loved me and

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<v Speaker 2>that I was the one, until one day this past winter,

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere, he just decided he was done and

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<v Speaker 2>broke my heart for the third and final time. I

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<v Speaker 2>found out yesterday he's dating someone else from our college.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that I've graduated, I want to have a fresh start,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm still so hurt. I feel so guarded around

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<v Speaker 2>anyone new, and I don't know how I can trust

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<v Speaker 2>anyone again. How do I move on? I want to

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<v Speaker 2>give her a hug and girl friend, just like you're

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<v Speaker 2>so young. I know she's gonna hate that, but give

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<v Speaker 2>yourself a hug and be so fricking thankful that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not with this dude anymore. Because anybody that cares, loves

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<v Speaker 2>and respects you isn't going to play with your heart

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And you should find the one that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be there to you know, love you and

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<v Speaker 2>respect you again. The right one will never do this.

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<v Speaker 2>The right one will never leave the right one will

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<v Speaker 2>never play with your heart like that go back and forth,

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<v Speaker 2>hurt you, disrespect you boy bye girl, Go have some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I thought I die for a second. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, exactly like you guys said, I dated my

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<v Speaker 2>high school boyfriend into college.

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<v Speaker 1>It was this. I mean it was literally copy paste

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<v Speaker 1>what she wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just like, go have some fun, go go, like,

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<v Speaker 2>live your life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I spent too much time worrying about my

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<v Speaker 2>high school speed heart and the boys and all that. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>go travel, go have fun, go be with your girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>Then find your man down the line when you know

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what you want and you've and listen again, you

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<v Speaker 2>will trust the right one when it's the right one,

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<v Speaker 2>like I like how I trust my husband, Like when

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<v Speaker 2>it's the right one. They respect you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, bottom line boom.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, ladies, see you next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah,