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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: You guys, I might be a little tired because I

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Speaker 2: have completely binge watch a show.

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Speaker 1: Oh which one.

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Speaker 2: For the last three nights.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I hope it's one I've watched. I feel like

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Speaker 3: you watch everything I don't watch.

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Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing to do is binge watch a show.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those things though, where it was like,

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Speaker 2: I can do it again. Yeah, you know, because it

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Speaker 2: was It's I I'll say this. I started watching. I

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Speaker 2: watched episode one about a month ago and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I don't really love it. And sometimes the best then

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Speaker 2: someone's like, no, watch it again and then watch the

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Speaker 2: second episode. You will get hooked. And last night we

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Speaker 2: finished Mobland.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I've heard it's amazing, but I haven't watched it yet.

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Speaker 2: You would hate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way I'm watching that. Catherine would love it.

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Speaker 1: I've heard it's great. I'm waiting so Nick and I

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Speaker 1: can watch it together.

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Speaker 2: It's fantastic. He's heard it's great too. I am just

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Speaker 2: I am, I am all in. It's just I want

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Speaker 2: to run a I want to be I want to

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Speaker 2: be a gangsta. Actually, have you ever watched when I

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Speaker 2: watched Ozarks, I wanted to do money.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to be in the gang Bicycle.

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Speaker 2: Like I get really like it. I'm like, I mean literally,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to be Kat McAllister, who is

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Speaker 2: like you know, because when you'll you'll understand when you

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Speaker 2: watch Moblind. But I'm like the same thing when any

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Speaker 2: of it, Like, what was that movie with Oh I

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Speaker 2: was back in the day. It was Blake Blake Lively

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Speaker 2: and Taylor Kitsch and it was another like uh gang,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I wanted to be semi Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to Amy about this?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I probably should.

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Speaker 3: I want to know what there's something about that you

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Speaker 3: did start a queendom. We're a little less edgy, but

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Speaker 3: we are a gang of swords.

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, like what is it. That's a really

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Speaker 2: good question though, because I don't know. But there's something

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Speaker 2: about like just it's not even it's not power. It's

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Speaker 2: a mixture between just like running it like being a

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Speaker 2: boss bay and just like but it's I don't killing

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Speaker 2: I don't want to kill anybody obviously, but there's something.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, No, that's not where my brain's going.

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Speaker 1: My brain's going I watch these shows and love them,

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Speaker 1: but my brain doesn't go to I want to be that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I don't actually want a money launder or be in

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Speaker 2: a gang or.

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Speaker 1: Be alistair exactly.

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Speaker 2: I just when I watch the shows, there's a piece

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Speaker 2: of me that's like I want to get in on it,

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Speaker 2: like I want to I want to like be this.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that piece either at all. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I get sweaty hands because I like this going en dangerously.

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Speaker 1: That's how I feel. And I'm not even joking, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I just think I can't even imagine being

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Speaker 1: a part of that and like living my mind obviously, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not going to like, let's just get this really clear.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be in a gang or any

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Speaker 2: of those things like that is so scary, and they

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Speaker 2: do terrible things.

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Speaker 1: They just like kiss the ring or something. Isn't that

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Speaker 1: what's a tap?

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Speaker 2: No idea. But when I watch those Sons of the

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Speaker 2: Anarchy Moblind shows, it's just like, ooh, juicy, you should

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Speaker 2: play in one of those. I would love to or

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Speaker 2: whatever act. But yeah, I mean again, I would they

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Speaker 2: do terrible things. Let's just make sure, we say all

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Speaker 2: that they do terrible, awful things, of course, but the

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Speaker 2: movie side of it just is like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it just kind of it's like, this looks fun. I

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Speaker 3: I guess I felt that way when I watched Kate Hudson.

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Speaker 3: And that's about us that compared I don't know. Everything

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to Amy about it, but I will say

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Speaker 2: during the ending, during the last episode that we watched

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Speaker 2: last night, this is the funniest part. So we're in bed.

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Speaker 2: We always watched the last episode, bet, So we're in bed,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden we hear the gate open.

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Speaker 2: the stairs, right, gate open like Carols. You hear it

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Speaker 2: click open. Right, kids are fast asleep. This is at

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Speaker 2: pitter powder footsteps coming down the steps. Just a loud clank,

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Speaker 2: And so I was like, and by the way, mind

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Speaker 2: you again season finale.

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Speaker 1: So it's blowing up like.

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Speaker 2: There are feeling like there's a lot of like shots

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Speaker 2: and it's it's it's like a big sequence scene like

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Speaker 2: this is like crazy here the gate, like I go

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Speaker 2: Jolie jays. Alan shoots out of the bed, not wearing anything.

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Speaker 2: He's like, do we have the gun back? And I'm

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Speaker 2: like no, Nick still has it. So now my heart

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Speaker 2: starts to like like I don't want to I want

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Speaker 2: to again, this is like my inner thought. So like

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Speaker 2: he so Nick tried was fixing my gun, so he

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Speaker 2: took my gun. So Alan, Alan swings up out of

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Speaker 2: and he's like, where's the bat. I'm like, you're scaring me.

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Speaker 2: We need a back. But like we both realized that

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Speaker 2: it wasn't Jolie or Jason because he like had kind

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Speaker 3: And so then I'm like I love that Alan's speaking

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Speaker 3: I know, Like logistics, what.

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Speaker 2: I do is I then run outside because we have

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I think it's in the garage like

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Speaker 2: breaking out. The gate had broke, so it fell over,

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Speaker 2: is what happened? Like the whole gate actually the thing,

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Speaker 2: always like peah and stuff, so it just kind.

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Speaker 1: Of like pops. Yeah, it's kind of terrifying though, I

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Speaker 1: feel actually hearing this story. So that's how I know

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Speaker 1: I couldn't be a mob boss. Needed to see him

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Speaker 1: grab a gun? Alan can he has she shot a gun? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay for some reason, I'm just thinking about Oh that's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I never said in Scotland, didn't they shoot? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just not as common over there.

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Speaker 2: He would rather grab a bat than a gun, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I would rather grab a gun for sure.

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Speaker 1: And that'll do.

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Speaker 2: So. Yeah, there's that. Anyways, that's what I'm up to.

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Speaker 2: Y'all should watch with Mobland.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna have to. I've watched a lot of

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Speaker 1: great stuff lately, though, I'm gonna have to watch that.

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Speaker 1: I would like to.

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Speaker 3: Say, something's gonna be wildly controversial and you didn't see

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Speaker 3: it coming. I've been watching something that isn't really great

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Speaker 3: What Love Island? Just like that season three?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I stilled after day one because one more and

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Speaker 2: it was not great.

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Speaker 1: It was still bad. I don't know what's happening. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm sorry too, and I'm gonna keep watching. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: unfortunate to shake your head up, yep. And I hate

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Speaker 1: I'm really just having a time because I hate that

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Speaker 1: I feel that way. Yeah, but they're not.

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Speaker 3: Making them as like I think this season has been

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Speaker 3: trickier because they're just not as like powerful or in

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Speaker 3: us always because they're like always a decade ahead of

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Speaker 3: us and always just rocking the out of it, you know,

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Speaker 3: and like this time they're like falling, and it feels

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Speaker 3: a little like defeating you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did watch an episode and they were talking

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Speaker 2: and I was like, all right, I just you guys,

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Speaker 2: don't want to actually be in a gang. Can we

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Speaker 2: just go because I just.

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Speaker 1: Can't think about me. You definitely don't want to get it.

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Speaker 1: This is you would be in panic mode, like you

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Speaker 1: But it's.

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Speaker 3: But it's also I didn't say anything because in the

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Speaker 3: court of why, I don't ever want my tapes to

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Speaker 1: So listen.

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Speaker 2: I will ask my business manager how we can stretch

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Speaker 2: certain things, but he says he'll always keep it above

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Speaker 1: You always do.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go to jail because I am

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Speaker 2: too I mean, Jinny and Georgia, I am to uh claustrophobic.

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Speaker 2: Also, I got stuck in Ellen's car. Why it was terrible.

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Speaker 1: It was awful. I got locked in. Oh it was

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Speaker 2: It was it's like this new like crazy, top of

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Speaker 2: in the car. No, and I pressed, it wasn't unlocked.

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Speaker 3: I was like car anyways. So let's just say I

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Speaker 3: don't want to be stuck to jail. Cell I know,

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Speaker 3: at a minimum, I think that's the things we don't like.

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Speaker 3: But also, you're a good person, so it's.

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Speaker 1: Just okay, wow, sorry about that. What else?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fors G that's about it. G I'm good, I'm golden.

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Speaker 2: Everything's great. Anybody want to I will say this. I

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Speaker 2: was so happy with all the feedback we got about

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Speaker 2: your carousel story because I wasn't like I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I was very about sharing, and there was a lot

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Speaker 2: of moms that were like, yeah, my the mind. Nana

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Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, took them dress shopping without them. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've read, I have a lot.

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Speaker 2: Sarah Brice gave Jolie whipped cream her first sweet. That

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Speaker 2: feels I didn't. That actually feels very unbranded.

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Speaker 3: Yeah anyway, Yeah, I will say the one thing that

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Speaker 3: real life experience, felt like I should share it. But

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Speaker 3: thought obviously they're saying, like, you were.

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Speaker 3: I think that it's a different perspective. And they're like,

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Speaker 3: of Memi's right, and two Gigi's and they said the

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Speaker 3: I said, we just need lying in room and to

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Speaker 3: be together. Like she doesn't really have any friends. She's

437
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Speaker 3: always playing, you know with her people like her siblings,

438
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Speaker 3: the biggies, and Cramer's like, well, I I don't know

439
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: if you want to be around room And I said, no,

440
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 3: I do. I love him and She's like, no, you don't.

441
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: You don't know he's a menace. And I said, oh,

442
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 3: I think what he is is just a boy yep.

443
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Speaker 1: And Jase is such a j Hender human.

444
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Speaker 3: He's made different than any boy, and no especially for

445
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Speaker 3: a second born.

446
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 4: Yep.

447
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Speaker 3: Kind of typically the second born being a boy like

448
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Speaker 3: he Jace is.

449
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Speaker 1: I mean, my.

450
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Speaker 3: I was like, Jason, you come here anytime with your

451
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: sweet voice. You sound like a Pixar cartoon like get

452
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Speaker 3: in my life. And Roman is all dude.

453
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Speaker 2: So my fear is back to this headline, is because

454
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 2: threes are worse. We're literally the worst years of my

455
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Speaker 2: life with both Jolie and Jace. That I mean, Jolie

456
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: was an alligator that had a voice that was trying,

457
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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I mean I remember a mom

458
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: just staring at me in bed, bath and beyond trying

459
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 2: to get Jolie into this car seat three. Jace his

460
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: that was when he started biting. But I mean it

461
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: was it was just so hard. I don't know what

462
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Speaker 2: to do when Roman hits. If this is two, I

463
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Speaker 2: am fucked for three.

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Speaker 1: No, okay, yeah, no, yeah, guys, I mean again, So

465
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Speaker 1: is the sweetest kid ever and has been. But he

466
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Speaker 1: was like this, I mean he was hard. He full

467
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Speaker 1: hard at three. Oh, it was kicked in at four

468
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Speaker 1: and then I was like what is happening. I just

469
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Speaker 1: want to say to Olivia, my that's that's the fourth thing.

470
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Speaker 1: What I was gonna say is that every month to

471
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Speaker 1: four it got easy, go easier.

472
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Speaker 2: So just like every month to four and then four

473
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Speaker 2: it's like, there's my sweet it.

474
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Speaker 1: All happens at four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it is. So just deep

476
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Speaker 2: breaths and just know because what she was saying too

477
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: is like, oh Dad's here, they feel calm. Most times

478
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna get like I've gotten more punches than like

479
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: Alan will ever get from from Romans. Yeah, what it is?

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Speaker 3: You know?

481
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Speaker 2: So I gotcha girl in Nashville and we can all

482
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Speaker 2: just you know, commiserate on our Listen.

483
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Speaker 3: God gives the parents in which these children need, and

484
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Speaker 3: Roman has.

485
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Speaker 1: The dad he needs.

486
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Speaker 2: How I'm going to.

487
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Speaker 3: But Roman has the dad he needs to Stuart him

488
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Speaker 3: well because his dad is a no nonsense Scottish man.

489
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Speaker 2: Right. But again no nos, no bads, no whatever.

490
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Speaker 3: I mean.

491
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Speaker 2: The other day, I'm like, I I have to I'm

492
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: gonna have to figure out how to keep this child alive.

493
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: Like I mean, he's trying to jump over the one chair.

494
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's gonna hurt, and that's.

495
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Speaker 1: The thing that is scary super normal, Like Jace was

496
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Speaker 1: just cautious, Like, yes, he's a precious, he's all those things,

497
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Speaker 1: but he was cautious. There's a very big difference in

498
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Speaker 1: that cautious kid and you're just rough and tumble kid.

499
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Speaker 1: You have to keep them alive.

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Speaker 3: And I did convince myself literally it's that God gives

501
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: I would say depressed all the time. God gave Legend

502
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Speaker 3: the body to help him protect him from his poor choices,

503
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Speaker 3: because it's just so big and sturdy, like he's a

504
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 3: hoss for like our family specifically, He's just built so

505
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: differently than us that I thought, well, maybe this is it.

506
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Speaker 3: Because if Love would have done that, she would have

507
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: broken four bones. Right, Legend just I mean he he

508
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: would fall over all the time because his head was

509
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: so heavy. I mean he couldn't even walk. Yeah, he's

510
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Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna be great. He's just learning, right.

511
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Speaker 2: Caller Alex. Has anyone seen it on Hulu? Oh?

512
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Speaker 1: I haven't watched it. I've seen a lot of stuff

513
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: about it, but I haven't watched it.

514
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: So I started watching it. I love her. I think

515
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: she is she's awesome. I think what she has built

516
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: her empire just an incredible I'm a big caller, daddy fan.

517
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Speaker 2: I am having an issue with this piece though.

518
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Speaker 3: So.

519
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: Former Boston University soccer player speaks out after Alex Cooper

520
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: sexual harassment allegations. So there was I can't remember the name,

521
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: but it was how many, but I believe it was

522
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Speaker 2: about one hundred people signed a letter in support of

523
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Speaker 2: coach Nancy Feldman several days after Alex Cooper accused her

524
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Speaker 2: of sexual harassment and her recently released Hulu docu series.

525
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Speaker 2: While the letters stated they do not look to diminish

526
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Speaker 2: or discredit anyone's individual experience, they felt it was necessary

527
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Speaker 2: to share their own perspectives as a united group, saying

528
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Speaker 2: that they never felt unsafe under her leadership. We were

529
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: never at risk or to witness inappropriate behavior or anything

530
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Speaker 2: that could be categorized as sexual harassment. So my kind

531
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Speaker 2: of issue with it is I feel like that then,

532
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Speaker 2: is they're saying they don't want to diminish or descred

533
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Speaker 2: to anyone's experience, But isn't that what it's doing this letter?

534
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Speaker 1: Yes? Right, I mean that's how I feel a little

535
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: bit differently, go, I think you have to be careful

536
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: in these situations on both sides. And who knows what

537
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: happened with this coach and with her, But if you

538
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,239
Speaker 1: truly have one hundred people who feel very strongly that

539
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: this they never saw anything, sometimes I think that person

540
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: deserves that. I think that that coach may deserve to

541
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Speaker 1: have people saying that she didn't in this situation does

542
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: not mean she didn't to Alex. But is it different?

543
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that everyone deserves a way

544
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: to be able to have their truth because we don't

545
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: know what the truth is. So if we just listen

546
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Speaker 1: to what Alex is saying, which I love her, But

547
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Speaker 1: if we're listening to what one person says, shouldn't we

548
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: be able to listen to what a hundred other people

549
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Speaker 1: have to say?

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Speaker 2: Though, So I've been following her for a while and

551
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Speaker 2: I looked at her stories. There's other stories that are

552
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Speaker 2: coming out in defense of also Alex, which I think

553
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: is my thing is like why the letter can't they

554
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: then just go on their own social media and being

555
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: like why I never had that experience? Because you're right,

556
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: some people don't have the same experience with other people

557
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Speaker 2: that someone else has. What someone's experience with me at

558
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: a bad day might be someone else's other experience whatever.

559
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Speaker 2: So it's like, I think, I to that point, I

560
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: agree with what you're saying. But then also it's like,

561
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Speaker 2: why make this then petition letter statement, because then that's

562
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Speaker 2: then really taking away what Alex's I mean, or her

563
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Speaker 2: story would her you know, I mean, how that you

564
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: know hurt her in all of that I think takes

565
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Speaker 2: away her voice a bit.

566
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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't disagree that it could, but I think

567
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Speaker 1: about certain people that we know, for instance, who have

568
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: been accused of things. I'm not saying Alex is a

569
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: person that we used to work with who went to

570
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Speaker 1: jail for different things.

571
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Speaker 2: Who do we work and they went to jail? Oh

572
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Speaker 2: I'm fine to talk about that. No, no, no, okay, well

573
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: that's fine.

574
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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, if I put myself in

575
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Speaker 1: think on that side of it. Yeah, so someone who

576
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: has been accused of something. Again, I do not know

577
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: what happened with this coach and Alex. I am not

578
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: perceiving to, I'm not pretending to. But do I think

579
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: someone like this person that we know who has been

580
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: accused of things deserved and that could have helped him

581
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Speaker 1: in that situation if he had a petition of one

582
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Speaker 1: hundred people saying this is not necessarily the case or feel.

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Speaker 2: I hear you, but I'll talk. We can talk about

584
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: this if you want. I think the difference is is

585
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: I'm not going on a platform and I've never defended

586
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: him because I do think his actions as a whole

587
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: is not okay. So I think if I someone that

588
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: I worked with that was a manager that I've known

589
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: for many years when I was nineteen went to jail.

590
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: He was a part of the me too movement, he

591
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: has remained. We do not work together anymore. Yes, he

592
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: has remained though someone I'm truth be told. We haven't

593
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: talked in a couple months for on my own personal

594
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: reasons around a few things. But when he was going

595
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: through all that, I could have easily been like that

596
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: that's not true. And now he did go to court,

597
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: he got cleared because some of the allegations were we're

598
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: not accurate. But his character is still the person like

599
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: he is a very flirty person who steps over the line.

600
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: I can't go on my socials and be like he

601
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: didn't do this because I could have known him, you know,

602
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: family known him since nineteen. I'm not going to discredit

603
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: this woman's truth or story to defend someone that has

604
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: actually been They called him uncle David, you.

605
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, which, okay, but yes, you see

606
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: my point.

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00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: I do.

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00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: Hundred percent. No, I see your point because you did

609
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: see actions that make you not be able to support him.

610
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: But what if these one hundred people saw nothing and

611
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: fully believe that there are no actions. I'm not saying

612
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: that that says I don't know. I don't know these

613
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: hundred people. But if one hundred people feel that strongly

614
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: that they saw no actions, rather, I personally think that

615
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: they have a right to be able to say so

616
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: to help that person's literally it ruined your life. Again,

617
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't quite matter if you are

618
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: found guilty or not. It's there. That's my point, right,

619
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to get to. If this happened,

620
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: it needs to go to court, and it needs to

621
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: be like handled, and this person needs to go to jail,

622
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: hands down, no questions asked. In my book, however, it

623
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: does ruin your reputation, and I think that's why they

624
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: did this petition because they don't want it.

625
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: You know, past manager agent. Yes, he went to jail.

626
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: It ruined his reputation. Now he's trying to fight back

627
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: his reputation again. The act was acquis acquisite. What is

628
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: the accusations The accusations that he went to jail for

629
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: he got cleared on. That's a reputation that you can't

630
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: he's not going to come back from. And now, you know,

631
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: as someone that has like he's I care about him

632
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: and always will, you know, as a human because we

633
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: have such history. But I could have never straight up

634
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: defended him because I'm like, well, some of those actions

635
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: are not appropriate.

636
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't think that you should have Yea.

637
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm just I think I'm trying to just the only

638
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: that's the closest thing to me.

639
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Speaker 2: That of saying okay, that would ruin you know, his weight,

640
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: because there's so many other people that could say, well

641
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: this person didn't do that.

642
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the important piece to that was

643
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: them saying they're not trying to discredit her her truth.

644
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: And I understand that you think that does discragu I.

645
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Feel like it does. I really do. I mean it's

646
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 2: like it's like someone saying this person, I mean, I

647
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: get what you're saying I do, and it also makes

648
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: me feel like it then takes away her experience of

649
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: what happened.

650
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't disagree with that either. I just

651
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: think that everyone has the right to have both sides heard.

652
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: And to that I agree with you on that, where

653
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: there should be a piece too going Okay, it didn't

654
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: happen to everyone, right.

655
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: And they didn't see the actions and they didn't you

656
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: know whatever. I just think that all of that is

657
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: fair in a situation like this because things can get

658
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: ruined so fast with an allegation. Now, there may be

659
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: twenty other allegations after this, I don't know, but at

660
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: this point it's one allegation and then one hundred people

661
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: saying doesn't mean it didn't happen. But I think that

662
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: it's okay to be heard.

663
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: But they are saying that it didn't not happen, that

664
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: they think it mightn't happen, And that's my point. I

665
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: think them coming in as one hundred people is a message,

666
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: like just the sheer amount of them is something either

667
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: strategic or a message or something. Because to get a

668
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: hundred people to do anything right now actually and then

669
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: to do it in that way, so I don't know

670
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: if it's because they think she's such a force and

671
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: like they would have to come in a hundred strong

672
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: for it to even make a mark, because if one

673
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: person goes on social media and says that's not my

674
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: experience of that person, they're just like an extent right.

675
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: They would have to be a hundred strong. That's what

676
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: I think for sure.

677
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: But I mean, I was a star witness in a

678
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: sexual harassment case at one of my former employments, and

679
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: I didn't have the same I was in the room.

680
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm careful to even share what I share like I

681
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: was in the room. But there are certain things that

682
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: offended this person didn't offend me, right, you know what

683
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And it wasn't that I'm discrediting her experience.

684
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: Was it professional? It wasn't. And I did say those things.

685
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: But I also like, it's just these situations are so

686
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: so tricky, so tricky, and so unfair to anyway an ease.

687
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: I just think that all deserves to be heard.

688
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, and in this it's like

689
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: it's been hard to see someone that I cared about

690
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: have their reputation for sure, And if someone cares about

691
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: that person, like that coach, and they see that as well.

692
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: That's hard for people to come together. If anybody, I

693
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: would assume that if my reputation, you guys would come

694
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: up one hundred percent, that would do for you guys.

695
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: So I get I do get that.

696
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: I just think that there is a way, and I

697
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: actually think this was done pretty well by saying, we're

698
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: not discrediting discrediting, like if something if you were to

699
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: be accused of something in a heartbeat, I'm not discrediting

700
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: what you said, and your truth may be that she

701
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: did this to you. But what I'm saying is I

702
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 1: have not seen this happen, and I think that everyone

703
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: deserves to have that.

704
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: Ladies. I'm struggling. I just graduated college last week, and

705
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: I came to college with the same guy I dated

706
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: throughout high school. We broke up and got back together

707
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: multiple times. And each time we would break up, it

708
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: would be because he wasn't treating me well, or he

709
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: just decided all of a sudden he was done with me.

710
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: Then a few months later he would decide he would

711
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: want to get back together and go through a period

712
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: of trying to win me back by going above and

713
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: beyond with large gestures and nice dates. This past year,

714
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: during our senior year, I really thought things were going

715
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: to change, and I was really believing that we can

716
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: make this work. He told me he loved me and

717
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: that I was the one, until one day this past winter,

718
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, he just decided he was done and

719
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: broke my heart for the third and final time. I

720
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: found out yesterday he's dating someone else from our college.

721
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: Now that I've graduated, I want to have a fresh start,

722
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: but I'm still so hurt. I feel so guarded around

723
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: anyone new, and I don't know how I can trust

724
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: anyone again. How do I move on? I want to

725
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: give her a hug and girl friend, just like you're

726
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: so young. I know she's gonna hate that, but give

727
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: yourself a hug and be so fricking thankful that you're

728
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: not with this dude anymore. Because anybody that cares, loves

729
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: and respects you isn't going to play with your heart

730
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: like that. And you should find the one that is

731
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: going to be there to you know, love you and

732
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: respect you again. The right one will never do this.

733
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: The right one will never leave the right one will

734
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 2: never play with your heart like that go back and forth,

735
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: hurt you, disrespect you boy bye girl, Go have some fun.

736
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: I feel like I thought I die for a second. Yeah,

737
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: just yeah, exactly like you guys said, I dated my

738
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: high school boyfriend into college.

739
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: It was this. I mean it was literally copy paste

740
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: what she wrote.

741
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like, go have some fun, go go, like,

742
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: live your life.

743
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: That's what I think.

744
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I spent too much time worrying about my

745
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: high school speed heart and the boys and all that. Like,

746
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: go travel, go have fun, go be with your girlfriends.

747
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: Then find your man down the line when you know

748
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: exactly what you want and you've and listen again, you

749
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: will trust the right one when it's the right one,

750
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: like I like how I trust my husband, Like when

751
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: it's the right one. They respect you.

752
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: Yep, bottom line boom.

753
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: All right, ladies, see you next week.

754
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah,