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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's say I'm here with a quick little announcement,

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Speaker 1: and that is that we are doing Stridia Lab live

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Speaker 1: back in New York City on Wednesday, April sixteenth at

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Speaker 1: the Bellhouse. Couldn't be more excited. It's a special editions

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Speaker 1: we're calling it Lesbio Lab, and we're discussing lesbian topics

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Speaker 1: with some of our incredible guests, including Sydney Washington, Andrew Longshu,

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Speaker 1: and Natalie Rodter Lateman. So the lineups to die for.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been back in New York in a few

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Speaker 1: months and I cannot wait. So please get tickets. They're

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Speaker 1: in our bios and we would love to see you there. Bye. Okay,

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Speaker 1: podcast starts now.

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Speaker 2: Hi George, Oh my god, I'm loving it here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well not quite, it is. Okay. First of all, I

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Speaker 2: would I'm I'm vowing not to say anything negative about

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles for a full calendar year because because of

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Speaker 2: because yes, because of everything Angelina's have been through. You know,

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Speaker 2: I have so much effects. It's very kind of thank you.

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Speaker 2: I have so much affection for the city of Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles despite all my negative associations with it. Okay, sure,

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Speaker 2: that said, What's the plan.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to what you Aubredy have said, yes,

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Speaker 1: which is you know you have all these issues with

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and yet if you push tho aside, you

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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And that's such an amazing way to view the world,

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Speaker 1: because pretty much anyone I have issue with, if you

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Speaker 1: take away all the issues I share them, I love

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Speaker 1: them to death. I have no problems with them at all,

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Speaker 1: as long as the problems are taken away.

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Speaker 2: Where's my thing with Los Angeles? Is? I actually like,

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Speaker 2: I genuinely love reading like cultural histories of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: and I like in the I think it's like one

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Speaker 2: King of Didion, Eve bad Bets. Give me like Lana

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Speaker 2: like sure music about Los Ange's, films about Los Angers

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Speaker 2: like I am, I will eat it up. And then

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Speaker 2: I arrive and suddenly I'm like, wait, why am I

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Speaker 2: meeting like a music executive who is wearing like weird

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Speaker 1: No. I think all those media sort of aggrandizings of

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Speaker 1: L A R. L. I no disrespect everything disrespected Jodon

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Speaker 1: John Didion. She was making stuff up.

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Speaker 2: Let's start knowing. Well, she was quite literally telling herself

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Speaker 1: But she was fully lying. She was living in malle

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Speaker 1: Hanging out and being like, God, I love La. She

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Speaker 2: Boki Cigrettes, not eating for five days out.

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Speaker 1: Of the drinking fully starting at noon and she's like, God,

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Speaker 2: It's like and they're like, God, she's so.

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Speaker 1: Right, she's so smart. I mean there, I literally have

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Speaker 1: because you have to find a parking spot wherever you go.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere I go, I'm stranded there. There's there's no free fun.

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Speaker 1: You are just you are everywhere you go. You are

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Speaker 1: people there needs to be new media about la you.

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Speaker 1: I need someone to romanticize, you know, the fact that

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Speaker 1: I need someone to romanticize, like you actually ubered to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know nobody.

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 2: You know that show with Adam Brody.

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Speaker 1: I'm just supposed to know every show.

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Speaker 2: No, Oh my god, this is Adam Brody, Like that's

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Speaker 2: why he's having a resurgence. Two podcasting sisters.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't heard of this.

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Speaker 2: It's I'm going to just keep describing it. This is

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Speaker 1: Keep going well anyway about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's about two sisters that have a

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Speaker 2: exactly what you're what the doctor ordered for you. I'm

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Speaker 2: it romanticizes Los Angeles in a way where you're actually

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just that I want to people need to

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Speaker 2: Should we bring in our guest away in I think.

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Speaker 1: We should, And because it's also starting to sound so

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Speaker 1: stereotypical podcasting that I think we need a new energy

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Speaker 2: I agree, and we're we've never been stereotypical in our lives.

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Speaker 2: Everything we do is unique, and everything we do is

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So with that being said, please on the podcast

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Speaker 1: Alan Hi.

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Speaker 2: The one really is you can't say anything on original? Okay,

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Speaker 2: are you from California?

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Speaker 3: I'm from Long Beach. Yeah. Oh yeah, So I feel

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Speaker 2: About romanticizing California and romanticizing Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, Lala Land did a pretty good job.

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Speaker 3: I would say I would agree. You know, they had

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Speaker 2: True? Ready do we claim lo lo Land? Do you

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Speaker 2: remember at the time when it was like Lala Land,

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Speaker 2: I don't remember this, and some people were like, well,

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Speaker 2: if you like Lola Land, trump.

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Speaker 3: Supporter, My gosh, I don't remember that discourse of it.

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Speaker 1: It was an amazing time.

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Speaker 3: I have rewatched Lala Land somewhat recently and it's so good.

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Speaker 3: It's like I have a boyfriend. Sorry, I just need

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Speaker 3: I want him to cry. I think that's every woman's

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Speaker 3: And so when we first got together, I had him

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Speaker 3: watch Marley and Me because I'm like, that's like, that's sort.

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Speaker 3: Not a good movie, but like you will cry. And

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Speaker 3: then you know, it had been some time since that.

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Speaker 3: So we put on Lalla Land and he did get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm like, Okay, Lala Land is a great

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Speaker 2: I feel like that is such a big part of

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Speaker 2: check a few his feelings again. Yeah, totally, because I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, it's almost like a scab like they over time,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to like remind them. Yeah, you have

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Speaker 3: It's come on, let's do a little deeper.

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Speaker 2: It's the comfort with like you know, it's this is

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Speaker 3: there's like you can have little friend circles. So there's

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Speaker 2: at the destination wedding.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I won't be able to make the wedding, so.

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Speaker 1: Because it's inconvenient, No, we're not going to go without him.

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Speaker 2: Wait, he's going to go.

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Speaker 2: He just doesn't want to, yes, yea, yeah, but you

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Speaker 3: But now I can't go, which I was like, i

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, come on, babe, it's a trip. We'll

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Speaker 3: make it, you know a thing. But yeah, yeah, guys,

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Speaker 2: There is something it's a very specific experience to be

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Speaker 2: a plus one at a wedding where you're hearing all

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Speaker 2: these people say such emotional and intimate things and you

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Speaker 3: For you, but it kind of means everything.

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Speaker 2: Because because you're sort of like watching them, because.

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Speaker 3: It is so like loving. It's like I'm watching a

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Speaker 3: I think for sure, because I think even more so

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Speaker 1: That is really complicated because and I hate when weddings

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Speaker 2: There's a comic in New York so if Hiphelton, and

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Speaker 2: And I think it's one of the most brilliant premises

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Speaker 1: Of course, and obviously the family would get like a

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Speaker 2: Social media numbers up. We have people we can introduce

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Speaker 2: Are you getting married?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My grandmother, when we were younger, would sometimes let

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Speaker 2: Interesting, And then we were also like, okay, like what

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Can I ask what type of language does she

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my grandma aged about having giant boobs, and that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that'll do it. Yeah, giant boobs, Vegas elopement.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she's kind of a queen.

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Speaker 3: I know. I'm like kind of sad that I only

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Speaker 2: It is crazy that we're now full fledged adults and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally well, and it's even worse now that I've

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Speaker 3: you're ready. You don't, like, Yeah, when my sisters were like,

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Speaker 3: Like now I have to watch my life go by

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Speaker 1: It's it is horrifying because even like now, my like

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Speaker 2: Back in me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's no like, like parents have so many

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Speaker 3: supposed to get them gifts? Every time I see them?

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Speaker 3: How often do I talk to them? Do they even

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Speaker 1: The way that you can make it your own does

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Speaker 3: But then when I show up empty handed, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: The way we live truly at hebnute walk from our

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Speaker 2: There is an expectation that you should be which if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking of the if you're listening, I don't

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Speaker 1: mean any of this. I actually do want to address this.

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Speaker 1: I texted you about this. Yeah, we're not a place

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Speaker 1: where you want to be critiqued. This new thing, this

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Speaker 1: No one's no one's asking me if I'm ready to

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Speaker 3: Like in what sense I can comment on.

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Speaker 2: When there is a video that was boasted of us

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Speaker 2: as you might imagine in the comments, there is an army,

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Speaker 2: a militaristic army of lesbians that are telling us to

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Speaker 1: Wow, literally just being like it's called a book, read one,

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Speaker 1: you can just give someone on Instagram. Like it's also

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Speaker 1: like I'm just like be mad like but like just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, find a private place to do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in a place where I want to be critiqued.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel? What is your relationship to critique?

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Speaker 3: I think I used to be really bothered by it,

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Speaker 2: I sort of been the same way. I've reached to

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Speaker 2: her thing is that she's actually commenting like this to

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Speaker 1: I mean I've looked up all these people, every single one.

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Speaker 1: I am not so you know how Like we've talked

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Speaker 2: Stupid like only people that do actually, And.

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Speaker 1: So when people people post something like share this to say,

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg, you can't have my data. Yeah, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: I want a blurry graphic that says share this if

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Speaker 1: you are not in a place to be critiqued. If

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Speaker 3: No comments, no questions concerned.

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Speaker 1: There's also something it does about me to where it's

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Speaker 1: like the same. The way that it's the same comment

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Speaker 1: is like you have to look at what's already been

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Speaker 3: I think you need to I think you need to

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Speaker 3: then that way, there's just so many critiques that you

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. But Sam doesn't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: But then when we do it, you get married. I

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Speaker 1: I liked like four when there were four comments I

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Speaker 3: Is better than exactly, there's way more personal twenty It's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: And that's when and also to feel like bots.

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Speaker 2: And someone sees that there's already a bunch of comments,

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Speaker 2: are so obsessed with telling other people they don't have

439
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 2: internet literacy, but then when things like this happened to us,

440
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: that happened to everyone, were suddenly like, I'm sorry, why

441
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 2: am I being a dad? Well?

442
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: There is something where I'm like, we've always stayed in

443
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 1: our general pool, like everyone that likes our podcast like to.

444
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 2: Have a guest and be like talking at you.

445
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: I think it's almost like a therapist sort of witnessing

446
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 1: and being able to Yeah. But I think like before

447
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,199
Speaker 1: we've been in and this is what I said was

448
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: good before, where I said like this. With this clip,

449
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 1: I feel like we're letting go of the wall in

450
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: the pool and we're kind of going into the defense.

451
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 3: But that's good because say, for every if you're opening

452
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 3: the pool or whatever, more people are saying this that

453
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 3: aren't in the group. That means like for everyone shady comment,

454
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: that's like maybe at least one to one ratio of

455
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: one new person being like, oh, I kind of like this,

456
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 3: But they're not going to because because no one comments

457
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 3: anything normal or boring, no one's gonna comment I like this.

458
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 2: They're gonna be like yes, We're like fuck, it's like

459
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: the silent, the silent normal majority.

460
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: Yes.

461
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: And this is across the board. This is actually, this

462
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: is all the listeners out there. I am issuing the

463
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: spread love challenge.

464
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: You watch a video and you say this is good

465
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Speaker 1: and you want to spread some love, comment this is

466
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Speaker 1: good period.

467
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 3: See, but then you have to reverse psychology. This is

468
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: what you have to You have to reverse psychology and

469
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 3: be like no, bring it, give me your harshest thing,

470
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 3: because when you allow people to say me and stuff,

471
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 3: then they're going to go so easy because now it's like, well,

472
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: this isn't fun anymore.

473
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 1: That's true, Okay, lesbians hit us with everything you've got,

474
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: recommend that literature in a way that we could never

475
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: ever imagine.

476
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: We are not in a fight with lesbians with this post.

477
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: We are, I mean, we can't. My final word personally

478
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 2: on this is just like we amplify queer women's voices

479
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: so often, and are they It's like the people we

480
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: love the most are queer women and it hurts so

481
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: much to say them turned on us.

482
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: Oh this is a good clip.

483
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh my god, you're thinking you want you

484
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: want this to happen again.

485
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Speaker 3: Wait, but what was the original clip? Just that there's

486
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 3: mask and fem and then people Definitely.

487
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: We're definitely being like flippant with our judgments and we

488
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 2: know that we're being very much like, oh god, we

489
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 2: can't go into it again. We're being just like we

490
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: had Lisa Trey Rond and Lisa was like you know,

491
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: I know many lesbian couples had fall into mask fem norms.

492
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: And then we are being like, yeah, it's crazy that

493
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: many lesbians we know fall into mask feminoids, which, by

494
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: the way, so do like gay guys do too. They're

495
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: just like sort of gi guys are just like dumber

496
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: than Lesbiant.

497
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Speaker 3: Said this, I have a couple's therapists. Is that straight culture?

498
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

499
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell.

500
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: It's hard to tell, but my my couple's therapists because

501
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you know the norms blah blah blah,

502
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: male female and she's like, no, this comes up a

503
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: lot in my time sex couple. So shout out to

504
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: Laura for confirming this.

505
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Laura.

506
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to And that's actually the final word

507
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: on this is shout out to Laura.

508
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

509
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: Should we do it for a segment?

510
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: I think we should do it for a segment.

511
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: Our first segment is called Straight Shooters, and in this segment,

512
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: we test your familiarity with and complicity and straight culture

513
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: by asking you a series of rapid fire questions where

514
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 2: you have to choose one thing or another thing. It's

515
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: sort of our shack test to see how your mind's

516
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: are working. Okay, and the one rule is you can't

517
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: ask any follow up questions about how the game works,

518
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: because if you do, We're going to be really mad

519
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 2: at you. Don't try to look for logic.

520
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So I just said that's a question.

521
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Speaker 1: That's a question. Okay, Okay, hold on, I have to

522
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: find them, Okay. Ally, a cloudy day or a poudy day.

523
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: A cloudy day, Rylo Kylie or Riley Keo.

524
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: Riley Keo?

525
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: Whoa a new season of White Lotus or a new

526
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: reason to fight potus.

527
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: A new reason to fight yay?

528
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: The Woke Mind virus or the folk music Resurgence, Oh

529
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Speaker 2: the yeah?

530
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: Totally mm, because I don't know if I'm liking these

531
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: or not, like the Woke Mind virus went the ya?

532
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, Recommending a book or complimenting a cook, complimenting

533
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: a cook.

534
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: Skipping leg day or dipping to Beyonce.

535
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Speaker 1: Dipping, skipping leg Day, subscribing to a sub stack, or

536
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: whining after a.

537
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: Nut tap, whining after a nut tap.

538
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: A professionally trained ballerina, or a suspiciously blood stained pashmina.

539
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 3: Ooh, suspiciously blood stained pashmina. Wow, what do you guys

540
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: think about?

541
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So we let's rank our guest performance on a

542
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: scale of zero to one thousand doves, and I actually

543
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: think that was a really good performance.

544
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: I think that was an amazing performance. There was there

545
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: was wonder, there was natural curiosity, there was confidence, but

546
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: not arrogance.

547
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: You were a woman in the beginning of a rom

548
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Speaker 2: com who is like, everything is going really well in

549
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 2: her life, but there's one thing missing. Like you had

550
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: a natural air of curiosity about you. You there was

551
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: so much happening behind your eyes. It was you were

552
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: giving a really great, grounded performance and it made me think, like,

553
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: I want to know what makes this girl tick?

554
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: Wow, thank you.

555
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: So i'd say eight hundred and twenty three three doves.

556
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

557
00:25:59,560 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

558
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: I love being talked about just like I'm like, wow,

559
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: keep going. What else?

560
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

561
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Speaker 2: Well, you know I told you this before we were recording,

562
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: but your hair is like so like beautiful and like

563
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: it's actually very Los Angeles woman.

564
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Speaker 1: You know now that you're saying that, it makes so

565
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: much sense. But I had no idea you were a

566
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: West Coast.

567
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. People think I'm like maybe some sometimes people say Midwest,

568
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: sometimes people say Southern. But I think it's because I

569
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 3: kind of mumble.

570
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: But there are handsome a California accents. Now I'm hearing

571
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: not like, not super intense. It's not like Valley Girl.

572
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: But there's a California cadence that I am familiar with.

573
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Speaker 3: Okay, I guess here's here's the weird thing that doesn't

574
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Speaker 3: make sense. How Okay, I'm gonna spell a word. You

575
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Speaker 3: say it, okay, f O U N t A I

576
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Speaker 3: N fountain fountain, I say fountain, fountain.

577
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Fountain, mountain, fountain fountain. Hmmm.

578
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: And then like my boyfriend makes fun of me because

579
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: me and my mom and my sister say, I guess

580
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: we say milk.

581
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: Oh, that's such a Yeah, that's the very But I

582
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: feel like that's like mid Atlantic. That's like marill into

583
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: my mind.

584
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know so that. But everyone

585
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: in my family, like my parents, that everyone's like California.

586
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: I recently realized I've been saying scars instead of scarce whoa,

587
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: and no one has ever corrected me whoa, even though

588
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: I obviously have heard other people say that way.

589
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: I think that's a great sign of who you are

590
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 3: that people just go he knows what, Yeah, he knows.

591
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: I'm surely I'm the wrong one here.

592
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe or maybe they're like, really fucking goes against

593
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: scars Jesus.

594
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: I guess I've never heard you say that word. Yeah,

595
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: what what was the moment they clicked?

596
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: My husband corrected me. Really, he said, if you want

597
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: to stay in this marriage, better learn how to say

598
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: now that.

599
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: Now that it's locked down, I can finally be honest. Yeah,

600
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: you say this wrong.

601
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: I also do struggle with saying the word singer, yeah,

602
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: singer that I think that's how I'm supposed to say it,

603
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: But I get really kind of like, yeah.

604
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, singer, singer. I love when people say singer. Yeah

605
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: I sing Saying singer is so like you are like

606
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: a mother of two, but you still think you've like

607
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: got a shot at making it. Yeah, America's got talent,

608
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: and you're like being interviewed and you're like, I've just

609
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: always wanted to be a singer.

610
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: I feel like now you're saying it, I'm like, it's

611
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: a bad word, Like it doesn't but it doesn't singer singer.

612
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: Be a Yeah, it's a bad word, as in it's

613
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: a slur or it's a bad word.

614
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: Like depending on who's singing, who's.

615
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: Singing, If you yourself are a singer, you can say singer, but.

616
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: I think it's just a weird word.

617
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: But it's a bad word.

618
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, singer, it's not right, No, it doesn't. There's

619
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: no flow.

620
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of. Okay, so like bringer, like I'm.

621
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: Anything with the g is that it's not got to

622
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: flow or I guess you.

623
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: Know, it does work though, finger finger.

624
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: Kind of finger finger, because you would never say finger finger.

625
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: No, finger finger. Yeah, that actually that's so true.

626
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: It was one of those words that's like that is

627
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: exactly what that is meant to be finger finger, which

628
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: growth finger already kind of gross and witchy. And then

629
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: of course the disgusting term fingering, like of.

630
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: Course that term it's got a ring to ring.

631
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: There's there's no way to be elegant while saying the

632
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: term fingering it.

633
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: Because it's always juvenile. If you were getting fingered, you're

634
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: like in my like everyone's getting fingers, getting fingered.

635
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: But you can't be like you know, Julie Andrews and

636
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: be like, oh I.

637
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: Was fingered, but it's not for her.

638
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: It's not for her. She's British.

639
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: People have a different word for fingering. Oh, I'm sure

640
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: they need one.

641
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like I was digitized. Oh, actually, I'm gonna

642
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: start saying digitized and I was digitized.

643
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that jacking off is a

644
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: horrible I agree.

645
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: Here's a question for you. Yeah, did you grow up

646
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: with jacking off or jerking off?

647
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I feel like I

648
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: wasn't doing much of that growing up, and I'm and

649
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't part of the dialogue around.

650
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: You remove yourself from that conversation.

651
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: I feel like, though, like if I'm trying to remember

652
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: being a teen, I feel like everyone was probably jerking off.

653
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: I feel like jerking was more.

654
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to like go back to childhood remember

655
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: up with jacking.

656
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: But then I actually think after I came out, jerking

657
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: became more among the guys. Next year. Oh but I

658
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: think even even like it's like, you know, it's like

659
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: the difference between dick and cock.

660
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

661
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: Cok has a more like sexy connotation, and I think

662
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: jerk versus jack also has that. Yeah.

663
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, jack and cock both just sound more aggressive.

664
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of jack and coke, but jack and

665
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: cock and cock? Yeah we should Okay, okay, So what

666
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: is your topic today? And you know what is roughly

667
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: straight about it to you?

668
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so so many crossed my mind, but I guess

669
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: something that I feel like is a very straight concept

670
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: is like YouTube celebrities and YouTube controversies. Yeah, so, I

671
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: mean the main one being anything surrounding Breonna Chicken Fry,

672
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: I E. Zach Bryan, I E. Barstool, I E. Dave Portnoy.

673
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: I feel like that universe, in the kind of mainstream

674
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: YouTube universe is pretty straight.

675
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

676
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have to agree. It's even when you

677
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: first suggested this topic, I was like Brianna Chicken Fry Like,

678
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what does that mean? I've never heard

679
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: of this? And then I had to go back and

680
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: be like, wait, I did hear about this on the

681
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: only straight podcast I listened to, And even still I

682
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: didn't understand it. And they talk about it all the time,

683
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: and I don't get it.

684
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: The thing with so, I'm the same way with a

685
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: uneekly they talk about Brianna Chicken Fry a lot and

686
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: the way I quite literally love those both of those

687
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: girls to death, But I as soon as the name

688
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: is mentioned, I ton it. I cannot physically pay.

689
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: Atten because I think the name in it of itself. Yes,

690
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: chicken fry. It's not her real last name for anyone

691
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: who doesn't know, it's a name that she gave herself.

692
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: And even that is like, what's something that guys will

693
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: get into, Like, my name's Brianna. I'm a girl, but

694
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: if I say chicken fry, then guys might open their

695
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: ears a little.

696
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: It's amazing, I'm a girl.

697
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: But it's also there is something so transcendent about it

698
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: because to me, Brianna chicken Fry is quite literally like

699
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 2: what a drag name would be if there were no

700
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: gay people ever, Like it's like it is a it

701
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: is a completely It's like if a bunch of straight

702
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: men and straight women got together and they were like,

703
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: let's think of a drag name. No gay people are

704
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: allowed to weigh in, they will come up with, specifically Brianna,

705
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: like that would be the first name, Brianna chicken Fry.

706
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: And there is something actually so beautiful about that, Like

707
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: it's almost like you know, when you watch something so

708
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: like aggressively kind of browie like the Hangover movies or something,

709
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: you have to really respect how amazing of a document

710
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 2: it is, like it is so beautiful that we live

711
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: in a world with Brianna chicken fry. Yeah, I could

712
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: have never thought of that.

713
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: And it's balanced. You know, you need Brionna chicken fry

714
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: so you can get you know, a Tricia paid us

715
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: like a balance.

716
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Well, what is the chicken fry controversies?

717
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: So, I don't know. I mean it goes deep. I mean,

718
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: first of all, you're a stool. You know, your boss

719
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: is Dave Portnoy. He's gonna kind of puppeteer the way

720
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 3: he does. And so Brianna chicken Fry. The initial main

721
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: controversy was she got into a relationship with this country boy,

722
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: Zach Bryan, and Zach Bryan was in a relationship, so

723
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: their relationship started off with this like what's the timeline

724
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: did they get together before?

725
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

726
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: Is there any cheating whatever? So the relationship was already

727
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: kind of doomed from the beginning, and then throughout the

728
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: course of the relationship, Brian is like becoming a roadie

729
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: for her man. She is going on tour, she is,

730
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: you know, supportive at all the venues. It's never a

731
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: good sign when she's like making TikTok videos being like

732
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: you want to come to the show, like you're so sweet,

733
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: it's like, don't be promoted, like you're not the promoter. Yeah.

734
00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: And then she kind of started dressing and acting like

735
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: his ex girlfriend. Yeah. So there were kind of some

736
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: like you know videos side by side being like she's

737
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: wearing the same hat that the ex girlfriend would always wear.

738
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: Oh, and that was perceived as shade.

739
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: No, it was like it was like it was like

740
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: she's trying to she's trying to like be the ex

741
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: like something. Maybe maybe it's like it's like girlfriend, sorrya

742
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: sent sorry, talk about the brown and chicken fry.

743
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: Of of her time. It's like how she is Kim Yeah. Yeah,

744
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: I mean the difference, of course is that she's not

745
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: really in control, but go on.

746
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. So then the relationship comes to a screeching halt,

747
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 3: and once again Zach Brian has maybe moved on during

748
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: the relationship, but also it comes out that he is

749
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 3: potentially kind of abusive a little bit, and not I

750
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: don't think physically, but I think emotionally and all the

751
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 3: other non physical thing ways that you can be abusive psychologically.

752
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: And so everyone's kind of back on team Brianna because

753
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: for a while everyone was like she's doing too much,

754
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: she's you know, losing herself and then you know, she

755
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: comes out, she says these things about Zach. One of

756
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: her best friends who she does her podcast with, Grace O'Malley,

757
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 3: is defending her. She's like, you know, helping her out,

758
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: being a good friend. So everyone's in Brionna's Everyone's like

759
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: team Brianna at this point because they're like, she went

760
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: through a lot, we don't know what it was like,

761
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: all past is forgiven. But then Brianna turns her back

762
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: on her best friend Grace, and so now everyone's like,

763
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: F Brianna. We're team Grace and F Zach, Bryan and Brianna.

764
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: Because Brianna, the stuff that she was saying about Zach,

765
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: all the bad stuff she was saying about Zach, she

766
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: was doing the exact same thing to her best friend Greg.

767
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: She was gaslighting.

768
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, I brought Grace out to New York

769
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: to do this podcast with me, and she's not thankful,

770
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: and it's like, that's exactly what you were saying about Zach.

771
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: There's something so beautiful about the crowd sort of at

772
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: the end of the day finding the truth. It's like,

773
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: first they didn't like him, then they didn't like her.

774
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: Then they had the swim where they were like, oh right,

775
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: they both suck.

776
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: It's a nice narrative, it's.

777
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: An end, and in fact we support the woman, the

778
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 2: supporting actress in the scenario, which is Grace O'Malley.

779
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: Yes, everyone is lifting her up.

780
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: Yes we are, and I want to join them in

781
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: lifting up Grace O'Malley.

782
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: You know, George, nothing's ever over, and who knows what

783
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: manipulative things has come out as having done.

784
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: As a wise woman doesn't mean it's really over and

785
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: it's never okay. So I have many thoughts about this.

786
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: To me, something that is very straight about almost like

787
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: either YouTuber or creator drama is that I I think,

788
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: in my experience the drama stems from very like almost

789
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: conservative heteronormative values. It's always about like it's about cheating,

790
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: it's about marriage, it's about like this very sort of

791
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: antiquated idea of like properness, like was this a proper

792
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: thing to do? You know what I mean? Like it's

793
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: never that someone you know, what's like a gay scandal,

794
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: Like it's like it's like.

795
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: Okay, scandal is like someone's tumbler from twenty years ago

796
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: came out and they were like crazy.

797
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, sure, it's because Okay, of course the exception

798
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: to all of this.

799
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: That we have is that someone stole someone's dancers.

800
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: Yes exactly, which that has nothing to do with Okay,

801
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: So here's what it is. I actually think loyalty related things.

802
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: I think on the one side you have faith, like

803
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: being faithful, monogamy, gender dynamics probably, and on the other

804
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: side you have non gendered loyalty. Non gender loyalty is gay,

805
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: and then like marriage and cheating and stuff is straight. Yeah,

806
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: so I which is why I think. Of course, the

807
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: big exception everything we're saying is the James Charles and

808
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Tati drama, because that was all about loyalty between a

809
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: straight woman and a gay man.

810
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think so.

811
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: But that sort of is like the exception that proves

812
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: a rule. It's like, we had one big gay scandal

813
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: and they actually crushed it so hard that we never

814
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: need to have another one again. And since then, people

815
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: like Briann and Chicken Fry have been trying to capture

816
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: that magic well.

817
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 3: And I feel like maybe with like Tati and James,

818
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: there's like so many layers to it, with Tati being

819
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: an older woman, James being a young young man at

820
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: the time, and then like James's own controversies, whereas I

821
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: feel like with a Brionna Chicken Fry, everything's just very

822
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: much like this in this like it's all very chronological. Yeah,

823
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: and like yeah, I don't.

824
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: Know, there's something about it too that feels straight where

825
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: it's about that's like a small town drama, like it's

826
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: something yeah you like looking in on, like oh that

827
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: that family actually they actually have trouble and they well

828
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: they're getting divorced actually, and whisper whisper, And there's something

829
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: where it's like, we don't have towns anymore, there's no

830
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: community anymore, so we have to find our small town

831
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: drama in the weird YouTube celebrity.

832
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: Our small villages are like YouTube communities that are like

833
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: the beauty community, the barstool sports community, and then we

834
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: all get to be bell in Beauty and the Beast,

835
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 2: like prancing around with our book.

836
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: I wonder too if it's like because people like Brown

837
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: and Chicken Fry, who are like very public facing, like

838
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: influencer and not celebrities, we knows we're seeing so much

839
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: of them and we are invited to be a part

840
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: of their lives, and so we analyze it. We're analyzing

841
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: it so much deeper because it's almost like a close

842
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 3: friend or family member, whereas like someone like you know,

843
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift and Katy Perry's dancers, we don't know very

844
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: much about them personally, so we're like, and that's the

845
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: dramas the dancers. Yeah, but if Katy Perry were to

846
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 3: post all the time, we'd have so much more to say.

847
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's There are sort of like three types

848
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: of dramas one can follow in this day and age.

849
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: H One is traditional celebrity news it's like Taylor Swift whatever.

850
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: One is reality show where it's like one step below,

851
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: where yes they're not real celebrities, but they are on television.

852
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: They're like fully in traditional media. And then the third

853
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: is this what we're talking about here, which is like

854
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: creator drama.

855
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would think you would think creators all will

856
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: be gay. I know.

857
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: That's what I'm struggling with.

858
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: It's like, but I think we underestimate how popular this

859
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: stuff is in straight culture.

860
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

861
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it, which is

862
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: something that we are struggling with in general. Like, I

863
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: genuinely like someone like Joe Rogan, who is like the

864
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: biggest podcaster ever. Like I'm like, I don't know a

865
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: single person who listens to him, and that is like bizarre.

866
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like how Stranger Things is the biggest television

867
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: show ever and I don't know anyone who watches it,

868
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I really want to believe my own worldview,

869
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: but it doesn't reflect what the world actually is. Yeah,

870
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: I think that. I think gay people. I think gay

871
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: people clip this regardless of who is numbers wise most popular.

872
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: I think gay people are drawn to glamour, like they

873
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: want the A list celebrity they want, they want the

874
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: pop star, they want like the diva, whereas I think

875
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: straight people are attracted to the more like everyday village

876
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: type thing. Wow, don't you think like that's really interesting? Actually,

877
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: Like I think I think it is gayer to care

878
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 2: more about people that are less reachable, people that are

879
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: more glamorous and distant, because you want the mythology and

880
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: you want the like the sort of like magic of it.

881
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: And when you when I see some random creator, I

882
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: actually actually sort of makes me sad. I'm like, ugh,

883
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: they're like trying so hard to be famous unlike Lady Gaga,

884
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: who was born famous. Yeah.

885
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I feel like I don't know if

886
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: this has crossed over into any sort of gay TikTok culture,

887
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: but like the rise of tradwives, it's like, I feel

888
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: like straight culture is like lifting something up and then

889
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: tearing it down because it's like all of us we

890
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: are watching these tradwives being like, oh my god, I

891
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: love she makes pies from scratch and has eggs and

892
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: chickens and whatever. But then it's like, but she, but

893
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: her husband is she she actually is doing this, and

894
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, she's showing us what she's doing. It's

895
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: like we fall very easily for things where it's like

896
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: we'll see a trodwife and be like, oh, this is

897
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: a performance, whereas gay people see Beyonce and they're like

898
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: that's a performance. We see a trodwife and we're like,

899
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: she's putting on a show, and then we realized, no.

900
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: Okay, she's just genius, because I think you're also okay.

901
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: Another great difference between gay straight is like the gay

902
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: weight to view something is as a performance and the

903
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: straight way to view it is literal, so you are

904
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: more likely to get invested in Brianna Chicken Fry's literal

905
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: day to day life, whereas a gay person sees that

906
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: and is like, oh, she's being sort of like cheeky

907
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: and funny because she's like getting on a podcast and

908
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: talking about her life in this like meta way or whatever.

909
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: Waiting that actually makes so much sense in terms of

910
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: like when Lady Gaga was first like coming up and like,

911
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: you know, my parents are just like straight people in

912
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 3: general are like why is she wearing meat? Like like, oh,

913
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: does she have a penis or whatever it is? She's

914
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: satan Like she's bleeding out of her stomach at the VMA.

915
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, it's like everything is very well as.

916
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: Gay people are like, first of all, pause up.

917
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: Monstrous.

918
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's like gay people are. When she's showing

919
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: up wearing a meat dress made of literal meat, nob

920
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: a person is like what kind of meat is that?

921
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: And where did you get it?

922
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: There's something So I was, you know, listening to our

923
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: dear friend Sophie Bottle on Mark Marin and she talked

924
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: about tall poppy syndrome, which I had never heard of

925
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: me neither. I love so tall poppy syndrome. She said,

926
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: it's like a Canadian thing where like if you aren't

927
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: you should they discourage you from being a tall poppy.

928
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: They want you to be the same height as all

929
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: the other poppies. So if you're a tall poppy, they'll

930
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: cut you. And so she's like, I went to America

931
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: because I wanted to be a tall poppy and like

932
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: in Canadian, in Canada, they would cut you down. And

933
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: so like there's something here where straight people still have

934
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: like tall poppy syndrome, like they like their celebs to

935
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: match them, like that's a normal person, whereas like when

936
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga wants to be crazy, gay people are like

937
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: that's good. Finally that tall poppy.

938
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: I mean, all of this relates back to like the

939
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: concept of relatability. For example, like the the idea the

940
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: appeal of a quote unquote girl next door is a

941
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: very straight thing. It's like very straight to be like

942
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: I'm turning on my TV and what I want is

943
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: someone that looks like the girl next door to me,

944
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: or is the caper is turning on the TV and

945
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: is like, if she doesn't have literally five breasts and

946
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: she's breastfeeding a guinea pig on each one, I'm turning

947
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: this off, and I.

948
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: Wonder if this, like, I mean, maybe this goes, but okay,

949
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: I'm putting on my smart hat or maybe my.

950
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 2: Stupid hat when you're getting dressed.

951
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: Yes, and I feel the same in both, But I

952
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: think I wonder if because societally, it's safer as a gay, queer,

953
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: whatever person to blend in, stay safe, don't break the mold,

954
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: don't be a tall poppy, just fit in, level out.

955
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 3: So then when you see someone like like Lady Gaga,

956
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: you're like, she represents all of us. It's safe for

957
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 3: her to be big and bold, and I get to

958
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: stay here and support that, whereas like a straight person,

959
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: it's like everyone can be the tallest spotpy ever, like

960
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: who cares whatever, Like you know what I mean, Like,

961
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: it's not dangerous for me to wear a meat dress.

962
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: I see, yes, So it's not empowering. When you see

963
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: someone in a meat dress, you're you're not empowered by

964
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: it because you're like, yeah, I could do that any day.

965
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: Girl. Me just a little uncomfortable.

966
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: All It's like.

967
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: There's already enough judgments from society about just existing as

968
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: a gay person, so when you see someone existing in

969
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: this crazy loud big way like defiant. Yeah, it's it's

970
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: better than a Brionn a Chicken Fry who's just wearing like,

971
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: you know, dunem short shorts and going to country concerts.

972
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: Right because Brianna Chicken Fry could potentially bully you.

973
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: She is she could.

974
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: You never know where you stand with her, whereas someone

975
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: in a meat dress. You're like, well, you're even weirder

976
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: than I am.

977
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like curious. I'm because the world is so vast.

978
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm like, there is there are gay people

979
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: that are like I listened to Brianna Chicken Fry every

980
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: single week, and I would love to know what those

981
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: people are like.

982
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 3: See, but that's what I was Any topic I thought

983
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 3: of bringing in, I'm like, okay, but definitely there's like

984
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: a gay audience for this. But with brown and chicken Fry,

985
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 3: I'm like.

986
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: Where No, I mean I think you literally count them

987
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: on one hand.

988
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean they're all going to write in

989
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: now they.

990
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: Want I want this clip. I want you to comment

991
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: read a book.

992
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would love a round table of

993
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: gay barstool listeners, like gay guys specifically.

994
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 3: Well, so there is a podcast on barstool with two

995
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: gay men as the host.

996
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: So that's why.

997
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: But but even still, because it's at barstool, Well, I'm like,

998
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 3: they're just filling a quota. It doesn't feel like they

999
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: genuinely wanted that at barstool. But they're like, oh, these

1000
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: are the most inoffensive gay men. I've done their podcast.

1001
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: They're great, But I'm like, do they feel welcomed in

1002
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 3: this environment? I'm glad that they have it, but do

1003
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 3: they like being there?

1004
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like when that was announced, was there like shit

1005
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: talking comments?

1006
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: I wonder.

1007
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: If I know anything stupid smart? How looks so similar?

1008
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Wow? What if we got acquired by barstool?

1009
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: That would be so iconic?

1010
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: That would be iconic. Okay, I'm trying to think of

1011
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: other Well.

1012
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna rattle offs of like YouTube ish

1013
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: like not famous but famous straight things. Okay, So we

1014
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: have brown and chicken fry, obviously, we have Barstool as

1015
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: an umbrella. We have I to Alex.

1016
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: Cooper of course, call your daddy.

1017
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: Oh everyone's yelling at me.

1018
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm actually i have to say, I'm still shocked about

1019
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: your Nobody wants this ignorance. And now now God is

1020
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: telling me to.

1021
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: Read a book.

1022
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: That I'm like, you don't support female podcasts.

1023
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's your favorite Call Your Daddy episode?

1024
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: The one with Kamala Woke Mind?

1025
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: Virus Virus.

1026
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: Also The Paul Brothers, Yes, Paul, Yeah, the streamer Sinnat.

1027
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: Oh sure, The Paul Brothers is a big one. And

1028
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: actually I feel there was a moment so I watched

1029
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight. Yeah, And there was

1030
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: a moment when I was watching that where I was

1031
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: like I almost like left my body. Trump had just

1032
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: got elected like a week earlier, and I almost left

1033
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: my body and was like, this is a actual shift

1034
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: in culture, Like there is something about the fact that

1035
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: suddenly literally everyone is on Netflix watching this like extremely

1036
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: depressing and dark event that was started because a like

1037
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: YouTuber turned whatever. Boxer is like challenging someone who was

1038
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: like a part of pop culture forty years ago and

1039
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: now is like sort of washed up and blah blah blah.

1040
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: And then Jake Paul One in his speech was like

1041
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: America's back, y'all. I can feel it. Yeah, I just

1042
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: felt such a It's like every thought left my mind

1043
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, we have to reinvent the playbook

1044
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: because what we're doing is not working.

1045
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: Here, folks. Damn, that's a bummer.

1046
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Like, and I almost think,

1047
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: actually I almost think that that fight was like the

1048
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: epitheosis of YouTuber drama. It's like we took it to

1049
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 2: the farthest level we could take it to. Was a

1050
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: Netflix streamed boxing match between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul.

1051
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's almost like that's like

1052
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: the oscars of this world.

1053
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of oscars, I think Hawktuition have her own movie.

1054
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: Talk. Well, she's actually not doing her podcast anymore because

1055
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 2: there was so much.

1056
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: Big quin scincin. I love it, and it's not her fault.

1057
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 3: She's working with the goddamn Paul brothers. Talk to innocent, innocent,

1058
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 3: and you know what, I think she's just around the

1059
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: wrong people. I think she's got a good, big heart.

1060
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: Well, I think she's got a great big heart.

1061
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: You guys are insane.

1062
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: She loves animals. She's from a small little town.

1063
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: Actually this has been forced upon her, as if you know,

1064
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, say say straight.

1065
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 3: Pature got to her because she made a very funny, silly,

1066
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: little blow job joke and guys grow The Rise of

1067
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 3: Hawktua is a straight male event. Watching that as a woman,

1068
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh ha ha, like funny guys are like, oh.

1069
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, cool, Yeah, this is what you're saying. Is another

1070
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: example of like performance versus like interpreting something as a

1071
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: performance versus interpreting it as literal reality. It's like Hawktua,

1072
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: if things were right in the world, we would all

1073
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: just be like, you go, girl, Like what a funny

1074
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: thing to say, and like, you know, okay, let's make

1075
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: some merch and let's get you you know, there's a

1076
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: hawk to a Halloween cost and bab blind and then

1077
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: we can all move on. But then the literal way

1078
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: is then people debating like what that looks, like how

1079
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: do you actually spit on a spit on it? And

1080
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: like does that mean that she's like slutty? And like

1081
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: what is her? How do you feel about like hawk

1082
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: to It's it's like, immediately take any fun out of it.

1083
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1084
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 3: I knew it was over when both of my brother

1085
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: in law's had referenced it and I was like, this

1086
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 3: shouldn't have gotten to you. Yeah, I do. I also

1087
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: think that Street interviews, aside from Billy Eichner and like

1088
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Speaker 3: that guy Chris Clement. I think in general, just people

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00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: being like gay sun her thought daughter, that's very strict.

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00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: No, it's so I'm actually frustrated with it because like

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00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: Billy Eikner did it so well and it was like

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00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: comedic and good, and then like now it's like literally

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00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: everyone is doing it and no one is trying to

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00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: do anything comedic with it at all. They're just like

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00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: I just want to be on a camera holding a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 3: Because Billy is the funny person in the Man on

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00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: the Street, whereas these people like the Hawk Toua, she

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00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 3: was the funny person, not the guy. I said, no

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00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: one knows the person who put the microphone in her face,

1101
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 3: because there there's no brain behind that. It's the people talking.

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: Everyone's just relying on other people for their content.

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00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: But did you guys see the clip where she was

1104
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: like talking to people.

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00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 4: I gotta go, I love that so much, so funny,

1106
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: and then they didn't hear from her for weeks.

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00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: That's what you got to say in the comments when

1108
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: people like read a book like.

1109
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: In the morning, Okay, so funny.

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00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like this interview thing. It's almost like on

1111
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: one end of the spectrum we have girls gone wild

1112
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: literally predatory men asking drunk women to take their clothes off,

1113
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: and then on the other side of it, we have

1114
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: like Jimmy what's his name, Oh my god, Martin Schwartz

1115
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: k oh yeah, yeah, Jimmy Click, which is like he's

1116
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: he's the butt of the joke and you got it,

1117
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: like Jimminy Glick. Gay girls gone wild straight, Yeah, the

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00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: interviewer has to There has to be talent in the interviewer,

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00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: and it has to be rooted in performance rather than

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00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: going around making fun of people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I fully agree. I think we've solved it pretty much.

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00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: Interesting. Any final thoughts on YouTuber dramas and or sorry?

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00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: Is it no?

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00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: No, We're good, Okay. I guess like I'm just like

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00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: the problem that I'm struggling with is that it won't

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00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: It's only going to get bigger. No, I know, I know,

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00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: this like type of culture is so deeply popular among

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00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: people I've never met in my life and will keep

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00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: getting more and more popular, and I'm like bummed out

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00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: by it.

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00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 3: Actually, I think what needs to happen the shift is

1132
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: that gay people need to make more boring content. With

1133
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: the way that straight people have dominated the boring content.

1134
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: Market so much thought into overwriting.

1135
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't need much thought. Turn it down.

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00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: I want to say, all, I think a lot of

1137
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: people are already heeding her advice. That's not what I'm

1138
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 2: seeing on some of my suggested content out there.

1139
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: Or have just like like have more boring drama that

1140
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 3: people can get upset over, like relationship drama. Mess it

1141
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: like mess see stuff.

1142
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: When when gay people eradicated the concept of cheating, that's

1143
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: when things got That's.

1144
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: When things got difficult.

1145
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: Because that's such an easy generator of drama. And it's like,

1146
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: first of all, gonna happen no matter what. So it's

1147
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: like if we just kept that as like the big

1148
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: dramatic event, God, we'd be fine.

1149
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: Because Jeffrey Star, I feel like, does a good job

1150
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: of being controversial in mainstream right.

1151
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: But that's because Jeffrey he literally will like murder.

1152
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1153
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: Well he also is like like like I feel like

1154
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: the vibe with him is like he could murder at

1155
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: any moment.

1156
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: Successful there's also always a threat with him that he'll

1157
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 1: like release the names of like the people.

1158
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: That's how people will keep watching. We need more threats

1159
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 3: in our content, like some sort of mystery that we're

1160
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: trying to crack.

1161
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what the equivalent of cheating is

1162
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: with gay creators is like closetedness. It's like it's like

1163
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: so and so like this big male celebrity, like.

1164
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: Is true true? Who?

1165
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: I have to say, like I get such a pit

1166
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: nic stomach when I think of these like creator dramas

1167
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: just because it really is, like not to sound like

1168
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: elitist or something, but it really does feel like the

1169
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: death knell of all culture. Like it really is like

1170
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 2: you're just sort of like how much lower can it get?

1171
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: Like literally, how much lower can entertainment get than Brianna

1172
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: Chicken fry Well and even I guess it could be

1173
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: like literally how much like what else? How can you

1174
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 2: like take away any more?

1175
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: Like production? Yeah, Like like we used to like read stories,

1176
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: we used to watch plays, and then it was like okay,

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00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: now we're watching TV. Okay, now we're watching reality TV. Okay,

1178
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: now we're watching It's like how.

1179
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: Like we're literally just gonna start staring at people on

1180
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: the street and like yelling at exactly. Everyone is just

1181
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: gonna have like a police camera on their chest and

1182
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: then you're gonna be like looll keep passed by that

1183
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: woman and her hair sucks, and.

1184
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: Then it'll be like, actually when in her hair sucks,

1185
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: that was radical.

1186
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: And then there's gonna be merched that's like my hair

1187
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: sucks too. And then she's gonna have a podcast, and

1188
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: then she's gonna have her own cryptocurrency and then a

1189
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: signature catchphrase, and then she's gonna be president, and that's

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00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: gonna be our first woman president.

1191
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: I would love that Majo for president, do you guys? Okay,

1192
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: she has been a YouTuber for a very long time.

1193
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: She spam Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, we don't have that.

1194
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: I do want to bring this up because something that

1195
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: we just like fully haven't mentioned is a big part

1196
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: of this is also quote unquote scammer scandals like TanaCon

1197
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: is a great example of this. It's like she charged

1198
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: her fans this much money, then they showed up and

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00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: the convention was a scam or like Carolina is a classic,

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00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: like Creator drama that has to do with is more queer. Yeah,

1201
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: so I think it's like scamming, all right, Scamming and

1202
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: loyalty are queer, and then like heating and what else,

1203
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: what's the marriage and marriage?

1204
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1205
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: Like it's like like presenting a different version hypocrisy.

1206
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah totally because I okay, So hypocrisy and cheating, which

1207
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: I guess are the same things like morals. Morals, Yeah, morals,

1208
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: hypocrisy and cheating are straight, and loyalty and scamming are

1209
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: queer when it comes to scandals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,

1210
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad we got there.

1211
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: Wow, we'll should we do our final segment? Okay. Our

1212
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: final segment is called shout Outs, And in the segment

1213
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: we pay homage. Is the Grand Street tradition of the

1214
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: radio shout out. Shout out to anything that we are enjoying, people, places, things, ideas,

1215
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: whatever you want in the whole wide world, and we

1216
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: think of it on the spot, and we'll go first.

1217
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to do you have one?

1218
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, I do. Okay, what's up, freaks and perverts

1219
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: around the globe. I want to give a huge shout

1220
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: out to cloudy days in Los Angeles. As we all know,

1221
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: I have had my issues with the city. But when,

1222
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: except when we take those issues away, then I have

1223
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: no issues with it. But when I'm loving it, the

1224
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: most recently is on those cloudy days, And I say

1225
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,959
Speaker 1: Finally I can be moody. I when I was living

1226
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: in New York, of course, anytime it was cloudy, I

1227
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: was on I needed a check in. I was on

1228
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: a watch list. The clouds could break me. But here

1229
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm actually a little bit sick of sun. And when

1230
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: it is cloudy, I say, finally I can listen to slow,

1231
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: sad music. Finally there's not pressure to go outside and

1232
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, do a CrossFit class every day. Here

1233
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: everyone's saying, why aren't you having the most fun of

1234
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: your entire life? And I say, because that's unsustainable. Well,

1235
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: on a cloudy day, I can be just mean and

1236
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: that is enough. Xoxo Sam.

1237
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: What's up? Breaks the losers? I want to give a

1238
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: shout out to the book Amusing Ourselves to Death by

1239
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: Neil Postman Publishing. I want to say nineteen eighty four. Now, yeah,

1240
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: this very scary year, and it's only gotten scarier since then, folks.

1241
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 2: So this is a book that has been recommended to

1242
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: me many times, and it's about how television is bad.

1243
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: It's about how television is like ruining a literas of

1244
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: like a society that was based on text and reading,

1245
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: and it's making everyone stupider, and there is something so

1246
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: wonderfully nostalgic about remembering when that was the issue everyone

1247
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: cared about, and now everyone is quite literally illiterate and

1248
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: can only speak in sort of brunting noises. And so

1249
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to remember just like the

1250
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: real sense of hope that we had in the Reagan eighties,

1251
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 2: I really highly suggest picking up Amusing Ourselves to Death.

1252
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: It really still holds up, and a lot of the

1253
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: arguments makes about television could also make about social media.

1254
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: The book literally starts out with him being very dramatically

1255
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: being like, as I'm writing this, a Hollywood actor is

1256
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: sitting in the White House, and I was like, damn,

1257
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: still true. So it's very short. It's a truly less

1258
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: than two hundred pages. I'm sure there's an audiobook of it,

1259
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: hopefully it's read by Brown a chicken for I for Lucky,

1260
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: And so I got to say, really is hitting the spot.

1261
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: And if you want to feel smart without honestly putting

1262
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: out with there for them reading something, I highly recommend

1263
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: that's huge.

1264
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes those types of books bump me out because they're

1265
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: so because nothing has changed and actually worse. Yeah, And

1266
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm also like it's fun to be like, how quaint

1267
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh, but he was right.

1268
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: No, he was fully right. It's it's funny to think

1269
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: back to there's always some moral panic, and you like

1270
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: want to reassure yourself by being like, well, there's always

1271
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: been moral panics. There was one about television, there was

1272
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: one about phones, and then it's like right, and they

1273
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: were all right and things kept getting worse, So what now?

1274
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: So what now?

1275
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: Well, Ali, whenever you're.

1276
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: Ready, do I look into cam.

1277
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: Oh you can?

1278
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,479
Speaker 1: Can you feel comfortable looking?

1279
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Speaker 3: Okay? Hi? I want to make a shout out to

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Speaker 3: one of the craziest products I've ever took a chance on,

1281
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Speaker 3: and I'm so glad I did. I if I were

1282
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Speaker 3: an influencer, this is the only thing I would try

1283
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Speaker 3: and influence people on, and that is the two in

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Speaker 3: You can buy it anywhere any Trader Joe's five dollars.

1287
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Speaker 3: And it sounds sketchy because obviously when you say two

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Speaker 3: in one, there's a lot of preconceived ideas about that

1289
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Speaker 3: but I took a chance on it. A hairstylist recommended it,

1290
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Speaker 3: and I was like, it's five dollars. What do I

1291
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Speaker 3: have to lose my hair? Maybe, but let's try it.

1292
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Speaker 3: I tried it. It's never felt better. It's like a

1293
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Speaker 3: blue bottle. It's grape fruitmentt. It smells good. It's not

1294
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Speaker 3: too strong of a cent. But I leave it on.

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Speaker 3: I rub it in, I leave it in. I brush

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Speaker 3: it out in the shower. When I get out of

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Speaker 3: the shower, I put in just a little bit of

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Speaker 3: leaving conditioner and then I use my Trusted which I

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Speaker 3: think is burning my hair. I don't recommend this, but

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Speaker 3: the dry bar, a little curling blow dryer two in

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Speaker 3: one to both two and one products. It might be

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Speaker 3: the way of the future. But I love it. I've

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Speaker 3: never I loved my hair more. I've no It's never

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Speaker 3: felt as good. And that's what I'm shouting out today.

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Speaker 2: Whoa woah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really powerful and about time we stopped

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Speaker 1: the stigma.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not all the same, not all the same,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not using it to white my butt in

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Speaker 3: the shower. It's for my head. Sure it works on

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Speaker 3: my head.

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Speaker 2: That is shocking to me, because I really, do you

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Speaker 2: think she's using it to white he butt. No, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm just because I've literally I'm on record as saying

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Speaker 2: you have beautiful hair. The fact that it is because

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Speaker 2: of Trader Joe's two in one is really rocking my

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Speaker 2: world to night.

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Speaker 3: You know you, I would go try and get all

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Speaker 3: these fancy products, being like this is going to change

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Speaker 3: my life. It's a tiny bottle for sixty dollars. It

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Speaker 3: runs out so fast. I'm using the entire bottle just

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Speaker 3: in one shower, because why not. It's five dollars.

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Speaker 1: I love this.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I want everyone to try it.

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Speaker 2: I want to see the guys, girl of you to

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Speaker 2: be like, yeah, I just used Trader. It's good.

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Speaker 1: It's good.

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Speaker 3: This is girls, girl, because the girls judge. I don't

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Speaker 3: need to convince a guy to get it to it.

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Speaker 3: It's the girls who I have to convince. I I

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Speaker 3: beg them. I don't just try it.

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Speaker 2: Wow wow, no one does.

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Speaker 3: No one tries it and it kills me. I'm devastating.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna try it, I hope.

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Speaker 3: So just it's five dollars. If you hate it, throw

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Speaker 3: it away.

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Speaker 2: God Trader Joe's, you know it still hits after all

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Speaker 2: these years. Shout out to the Tamalis.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what to do in there.

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Speaker 2: No, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: I've been in a strangers one time in my whole life.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, no.

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Speaker 3: Once you got to get used to it, you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Get to know what it does well and what it

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Speaker 2: doesn't do well. Don't buy produce.

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Speaker 3: Don't buy produce. But they're frozen to get the soup dumplings.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, the soup dumplings, rosen.

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Speaker 2: Stuff anything sort of in the realm of like protein

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Speaker 2: bars and powder.

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Speaker 3: Like, and they always have a fun bread. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how they make them. I don't know what they're doing,

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Speaker 3: but they're making them.

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Speaker 2: They're backstage, they're making the bread fresh morning bagel chabata,

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Speaker 2: like a oh everything bagel Trader Joe's. It's like they

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Speaker 2: are snorting lines of everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, Ali, this has been a real delight. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for doing the podcast, for having me.

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Speaker 2: And please tell people we're trying to actually let people

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Speaker 2: promote themselves. Please tell people what you are up to

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Speaker 2: where they can find you where they can see you,

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Speaker 2: et cetera.

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Speaker 3: You can go to Ali mukofsky dot com. I have

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Speaker 3: some tour dates coming up. You can see me do

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01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 3: a comedy on the road, maybe in a city near you.

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Speaker 3: You can go to my YouTube to check out Ali's

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Speaker 3: interview show. You can get in on the ground floor

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Speaker 3: of this. You can get it on the ground floor.

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Speaker 3: I only have two episodes out at this moment. I'm

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Speaker 3: starting to record more episodes. One of my guests is

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Speaker 3: Sam Vincente and then my other guests just to balance

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Speaker 3: very straight Dylan Francis. So there's one episode for everyone

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Speaker 3: at least right now. More to come.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cool, great, and you've got to introduce us to

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Speaker 2: Saint Vincent I would love to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bye podcast and now want more.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month,

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01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 2: discord access and more by heading to patreon dot com.

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: Created and hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart.

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01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,400
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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,720
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01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: And engineered by Adam Avalos.

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Speaker 2: Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Grub.

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