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Speaker 2: I want to move out, but my parents are preventing it.

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Speaker 3: You're trapping me in here.

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Speaker 2: I twenty two female, am supposed to be moving out

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Speaker 2: of my parents' house at the end of this month.

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Speaker 2: This has been planned for a while, as my girlfriend,

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Speaker 2: twenty five female, is even flying in from out of

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Speaker 2: state to help me make the drive across several states.

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Speaker 2: She already took time off work and bought the plane tickets,

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Speaker 2: so it's not exactly something I can just reschedule without

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Speaker 2: it costing us both money. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 2: separate it. I'm Sophia and I'm Angie, and Opie says

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Speaker 2: this past week, I've been back at my parents' place

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Speaker 2: taking care of the family dog and driving my brother

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Speaker 2: nineteen mail to work because my parents went on a cruise.

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Speaker 2: They asked me to fly home early from my new place,

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Speaker 2: specifically so I could help with that. I don't mind,

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Speaker 2: as I needed to pack up the rest of my

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Speaker 2: stuff and say goodbye to my friends. Anyway, they get

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Speaker 2: back tonight, But this morning my mom texts me saying

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Speaker 2: they forgot they had another vacation at a resort a

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Speaker 3: What oh, forget you have a vacation plan?

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Speaker 2: We forgot?

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Speaker 3: How often do you go on vacations to forget?

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Speaker 2: Get a lot? Apparently it was planned six months ago

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Speaker 2: and it just happens to start the day before I'm

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Speaker 2: supposed to move out. I reminded her that I'm leaving

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Speaker 2: the next day and my girlfriend already has purchased her ticket.

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Speaker 2: When I asked if it was supposed to be a

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Speaker 2: and just said, hmm, they figure something out. I have

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Speaker 2: a hard time believing that this trip was forgotten about.

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Speaker 2: My parents are comfortable financially, but we are not in

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Speaker 2: a tax bracket where we can easily go on two

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Speaker 2: trips in one month. My mom is so tight with

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Speaker 2: It just feels very convenient. I'm still planning to move

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've.

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Speaker 2: Already done enough, flew back early, helped out with a dog,

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Speaker 2: and drove my brother around. I don't think it's fair

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Speaker 2: didn't plan ahead. They're going to have to figure out

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Speaker 2: the dog and my brother's rides to work without me

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Speaker 2: if they're not planning on taking him or the dog along. However,

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Speaker 2: I feel incredibly guilty, and I worry they won't be

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Speaker 2: able to find a reliable dog sitter. So am I

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Speaker 2: the ale for still moving out even though it screws

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Speaker 2: with my parents' second vacation. No, if they forgot about it,

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Speaker 2: then they should cancel it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like I feel like the only

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Speaker 3: bad thing about it in your situation is that they

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Speaker 3: can't help you move out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what I would be annoyed about.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, But I mean, you should definitely still still go

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Speaker 3: still move out, move out.

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Speaker 4: Get out of there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like if they didn't have a plan for

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Speaker 3: Maybe I can't go on a vacation, right maybe like

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Speaker 2: Jump figure Some comment one says, not the a hole.

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Speaker 2: You made your plans. You let them know your plans,

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Speaker 2: move as scheduled. It is their house, their dog, and

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Speaker 2: their other adult child they have to figure things out for.

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Speaker 2: Is there a reason why your brother is unable to

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Speaker 2: take care of the dog and get himself to work. Oh,

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Speaker 2: he says. My brother currently does not have a driver's license,

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Speaker 2: she's not alone for extended periods of time. She's a

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Speaker 2: to me, so my mother has tried to leverage that

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Speaker 2: I'm struggling with, but I feel as if my independence

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Speaker 2: is way more important comment to your mom has clearly

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Speaker 2: to get a license he can go and do that

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Speaker 2: finding other ways to relieve its anxiety. She's trying to

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Speaker 2: use guilt to manipulate you. And OP responds, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of history with my mom that's hard to fully

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Speaker 2: I completely agree moving out is absolutely the right decision

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Speaker 2: where I'm not constantly under her scrutiny. My brother was

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Speaker 2: been heavily coddled and kind of kept in this bubble.

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Speaker 2: It's made living at home a uniquely stressful experience, to

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Speaker 2: say the least. I really appreciate everyone's perspective here. I

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Speaker 2: know I need to let go of the guilt around

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Speaker 2: setting boundaries and telling my parents no. It's a work

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Speaker 2: the right decision and reply. ADHD alone does not require

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Speaker 4: Is never good.

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Speaker 2: Your brother is going to depend on your parents for everything,

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Speaker 2: and when they're tired of it no longer can, they'll

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Speaker 2: expect you to take over. Be prepared. In comment three

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Speaker 2: And there is an update. But yeah, I agree with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. You're just dousing what she told them

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Speaker 3: you do. They're doing what they said that they would

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Speaker 3: they're doing, then they can figure that out. There.

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Speaker 2: They gotta figure it out. That's how it goes when

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Speaker 3: Pet and a child.

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Speaker 2: Update. There were a couple things I forgot to mention

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Speaker 2: not have a disability that prevents him from driving. He

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Speaker 2: due to our mom. She refuses to let him take

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Speaker 3: That's wild. I feel like the only times you can

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Speaker 2: Also, the point of the test is to figure out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, like, what do we need a pre test? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we don't need his mom's mission, we need like the laws.

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Speaker 2: However, he is currently in driving school, mostly thanks to

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Speaker 2: home already upset. She started criticizing things around the house,

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Speaker 2: trying to diminish an intense reaction, even cleaning the sheets

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Speaker 2: While they were gone, my brother had been trying out

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Speaker 2: completely hers. What is this lady's problem? You're not allowed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy, I think so.

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Speaker 2: His cooking wasn't really the problem, but he's not great

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Speaker 2: was just in a mood and decided not to engage,

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Speaker 2: which is usually the best approach with her. This morning,

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Speaker 2: She brought up my move again. She asked if there

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Speaker 2: offering to help pay for college if I didn't go.

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Speaker 4: Through with it.

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Speaker 2: I told her I was still planning to move and

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Speaker 2: saying I wasn't officially on the lease yet that once

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Speaker 2: She also said I was playing pretend at being an

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Speaker 2: Mom just looked at me and said, there wasn't a

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Speaker 3: How interesting?

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Speaker 2: Did you get the dates wrong?

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Speaker 3: Huhh?

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Speaker 2: When I pointed out that she'd said the opposite the

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Speaker 4: Do you have any final thoughts?

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Speaker 3: I just there's obviously some sort of like fear of

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Speaker 3: She didn't want you to move, so she said, oh,

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Speaker 3: I forgot the date, and then the next day, Oh,

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Speaker 3: the dates are actually fine, not a problem at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what she Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: it seems like she's trying to create a lot of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so so good thing that they're there to help

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Speaker 3: you move out and get out of there.

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Speaker 2: You'll be like, oh, perfect, well I think op, you might.

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Speaker 3: Have to fly so oh I've missed that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but card B.

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Speaker 2: Either way, you're going to be a movin out. You're

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Speaker 2: can actually use, so dick the winds right at this point,

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to keep things low key until I

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Speaker 2: move out. I don't want to start more arguments or

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Speaker 2: totally burn the bridge right before I leave. But it's

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Speaker 2: definitely exhausting. I don't think this will be the last

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Speaker 2: time she tries to get me to stay or throws

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't know how you would stop this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have these conversations. Yeah, maybe we shouldn't, you know,

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Speaker 2: Like if you don't actually follow any of the advice, right,

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Speaker 3: Because that's how it works? And like did this happen

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Well that or Like I'm thinking like did stupid people

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Speaker 2: Yea compassion.

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Speaker 2: So he started you first, yeah FIRTI, and then literally

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Speaker 3: Literally literally, it's so embarrassing and infuriating because I've worked

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Speaker 3: It's like they've just become bullies, constantly looking for a

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Speaker 3: is screwing up everything, but then in the next sentence

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about how there's nothing wrong with Bootajegg being

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Speaker 3: funded by billionaires, or how Bloomberg is effectively buying his

440
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Speaker 3: way into the elections. Meanwhile, my brother and I want

441
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Speaker 3: nothing to do with debating him. It just makes no

442
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Speaker 3: sense at all. But that's the NDA story.

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Speaker 2: It might just that is I that is funny though. Yeah,

444
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Speaker 2: for this old man who's like so crotchety and like

445
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Speaker 2: I hate all customer service. Yeah, to like very liberal

446
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Speaker 2: politicians like blue h Yeah, it's like the billionaire one.

447
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Speaker 2: That's that's you know, it makes sense kind of why

448
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Speaker 2: they're but like for him to be like bootage beat Boodhaj, Yeah,

449
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Speaker 2: you have to a very liberal politician, right, and that

450
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Speaker 2: is very different to what this man gives off. I

451
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: refuse to be involved with my stepsister, but my father

452
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: won't take my side.

453
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Speaker 3: I just don't like her dad.

454
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Speaker 2: For some background context, I thirty two female, have been

455
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Speaker 2: trying to set boundaries, really just one, if I'm being

456
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Speaker 2: honest with my dad fifty eight male, and family since

457
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 2: returning from the military five years ago. Growing up, my

458
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Speaker 2: family never had boundaries. I don't think they really understood them,

459
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 2: and just always inserted themselves in other family members' business,

460
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Speaker 2: even when they weren't asked for their opinion. By the way,

461
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Speaker 2: this comes from Dnod's Ninja ninety three on the r slash.

462
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Speaker 2: Charlotte do Bray YouTube subpreated it, and if you want

463
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Speaker 2: to smit your own stories, go to the r slash

464
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Speaker 2: Okay storytime separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Angie Haop says.

465
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 2: My dad got remarried to my stepmom when I was eight,

466
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Speaker 2: who also had a daughter a few months younger than me.

467
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 2: The daughter and I didn't have the best relationship growing up.

468
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: She was one of my biggest bullies in school, constantly

469
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: using things I did in my free time against me

470
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 2: and telling everyone in our class about it so they

471
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: would join in too. I never had a safe space

472
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 2: growing up I would try to tell my dad about it,

473
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: and he would tell me I was a liar, making

474
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Speaker 2: it up and I just wasn't adjusting to his marriage

475
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Speaker 2: and a new sibling. This is where a lot of

476
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: my problems started. I didn't feel safe talking to my

477
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: dad about things and would only speak up when I'd

478
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: hit my breaking point and come home crying about all

479
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 2: the bullying. Once I cried it out, I would go

480
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: back to being silent about everything that was happening at school.

481
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: This continued until high school, when my stepsister admitted to

482
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: everything I had been saying over the years. She only

483
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: admitted to it because I had transferred schools to get

484
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,959
Speaker 2: away from the bullying. She stayed and everyone in our

485
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: grade turned on her. No you, we pushed a pee away.

486
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: She was the one coming home crying about it. I

487
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: never got an apology from her or my dad about

488
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Speaker 2: any of this. Fast forward to twenty twenty, when I

489
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Speaker 2: finally get out of the military and am able to

490
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Speaker 2: see my family again after the whole did thing. That's

491
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Speaker 2: where things start falling apart. A brief timeline February twenty

492
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Speaker 2: twenty end of active duty military contract July twenty twenty

493
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: finally see some family since returning home January twenty twenty one,

494
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: let her in the mail stating I missed a court date.

495
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: Hold up court, What do you mean court? I never

496
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: got a ticket. I barely drive anywhere. I call around

497
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: the courthouse, get a few different offices until I finally

498
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: get someone who can help me. I ask if she

499
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Speaker 2: can explain what I missed and what the court date

500
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: was for, and she said, oh, well, all that information

501
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: should be on the ticket you received at the accident.

502
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Speaker 3: Uh me, accident?

503
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: What accident?

504
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 4: Her?

505
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 2: You were the driver of insert vehicle here in July

506
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: last year? Correct me, No, I don't even own that

507
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: kind of vehicle, and I was in a pool at

508
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: my parents' house on the opposite side of town on

509
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: that date, so I wasn't even driving. She was confused

510
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 2: and concerned, so she gave me the info of the

511
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Speaker 2: officer first on scene so I could contact him.

512
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Speaker 4: I did.

513
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: He asked me a series of questions and started naming

514
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Speaker 2: off different names of people, none of which I recognized

515
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: until he said my stepsister's name. I explained, I hadn't

516
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 2: seen her in years prior to me getting out of

517
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Speaker 2: the military, and we don't have the greatest relationship. Well,

518
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: long story short, her and her friends were driving around

519
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: hit another vehicle, lie to the cops, and she told

520
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Speaker 2: one of them to give my name as theirs as

521
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Speaker 2: the driver of the vehicle. Must was still equally upset

522
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Speaker 2: at the officer who just accepted that information blindly without

523
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Speaker 2: ever checking if it was correct. Did they not check

524
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Speaker 2: her license?

525
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I feel like if you crack should have someone's car,

526
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: you have to give your license to the police.

527
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: Nice and registrations, and if you don't have those, it's

528
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: pretty bad.

529
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Speaker 3: Right because that, like then what the officer just like

530
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 3: typed in the name people's names.

531
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry if if a person doesn't have their license

532
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Speaker 2: and registration and then goes.

533
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm a huge Janice. Yeah, and they're like, well,

534
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Speaker 5: they're like, that's right. Nice to me, you missed Janie.

535
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Speaker 4: You idiots.

536
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: To god, I would be so upset. I almost had

537
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 2: a warrant for my arrest because I had missed multiple

538
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: court hearings, but I was able to get all of

539
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: that withdrawn from my name after I spoke to the officer.

540
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: I almost went to jail because of her and her

541
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Speaker 2: friend and that my friends is where all of this begins.

542
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: I sat down with my dad after this and told

543
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Speaker 2: them very clearly that I wanted nothing to do with

544
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Speaker 2: her anymore. I don't want to see her, I don't

545
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: want to be around her, but I so no. She's

546
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: family to him and everyone else, so I'm not asking

547
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 2: for anyone to pick sides. All I ask is if

548
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: she's going to be at a family gathering, let me

549
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: know and I'll arrive at a different time. He's set

550
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: up a schedule and that worked well, or I thought

551
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: it did for many years until Christmas of twenty twenty four.

552
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: My cousin, who was hosting Christmas that year, messaged me

553
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: to inform me that she was going to be there

554
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: as soon as everyone arrives and wanted me to know

555
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: because he knew why I was staying away. I told

556
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: him I was confused because as far as I heard

557
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 2: from my dad, she was supposed to be showing up

558
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: later in the evening. But if she was going to

559
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 2: be there, I would drop my gifts off to everyone,

560
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: the hot cocoa I made for the night, and then leave.

561
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: I told him I wouldn't make a scene. Just be clear,

562
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't staying and then leave and come back later

563
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: for the crock Bot. I thanked him for letting me

564
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: know and waited. My cousin had told me this shortly

565
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: after Thanksgivings, so I waited to see if my dad

566
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: would tell me. We had texted and called multiple times

567
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: leading up to this, and not once did he hint

568
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: she would be there earlier, or even just say.

569
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Speaker 4: Hey, she's actually going to be there.

570
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 2: First instead or anything. Christmas comes, she's there and I

571
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: do exactly as I said I would, no drama, dropped

572
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: everything off and left. My dad has since been complaining

573
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: about me ripping that family off art because I won't

574
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: forgive her or accept the apology she sent, which only

575
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: came after I said she hasn't once apologized for anything,

576
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: and the written apology was basically along the lines of

577
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: sorry for what I did. I wasn't in the right

578
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: state of mind. I really did her friend ever get arrested?

579
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: Did they ever figure out that cop get fired doing

580
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: his due diligence?

581
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: But I kind of feel like it's a fake story

582
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: just because of that, because it's to understake the freaking id. Yeah,

583
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: like someone who is I don't know, it doesn't drive

584
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: or something, but then they know all this stuff about

585
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: having a warrant go out for like but take it.

586
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it never felt genuine and more like it was

587
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: forced so my parents could try and have one big,

588
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: happy family. I've told my dad since the Christmas thing

589
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: that he has chosen a side and I'm removing myself

590
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: from family gatherings to make it easier on him. Since then,

591
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: he's been complaining about me not seeing family. How me

592
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: not wanting to be around her is tearing the family apart,

593
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: and if I don't forgive her and make up a

594
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: family will leave me bitter for the rest of my life.

595
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: Since the last talk I had with my dad, still

596
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: arguing about this, I've been going back and forth on

597
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: if I should just cut contact permanently. I've tried no

598
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: contact for six months and started doing dinners with my

599
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: dad to try and get him to understand my point,

600
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: why I'm hurt and why him dismissing my feelings on

601
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: this is extremely upsetting and he doesn't want to hear

602
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: any of it. He would rather me go back to

603
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: being the silent child I was growing up when I

604
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: didn't stand firm for myself. I'm getting so tired trying

605
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: to get him to understand my perspective on things. If anything,

606
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: it's only gotten worse. So would I be the ale

607
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: if I cut all contact with my dad?

608
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: I don't think you'd be the ale for cutting contact. No,

609
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: I feel like that's what you need, then, that's what

610
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: you need. That's what you need.

611
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: Then.

612
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've consistently, you know, barreled past your boundaries. Yeah,

613
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: and you know, your sister literally almost got you arrested. Yeah,

614
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: your dad still stick here.

615
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: And the fact that her excuse is just like so's hart.

616
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 3: I was just like really foggy that day.

617
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: I was like I didn't even like, I don't know,

618
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: I wasn't there.

619
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: It's like like my bad Yeah, I had like a

620
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: really bad headache that day.

621
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like what I think I told her like

622
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: another name, but I guess she heard that one.

623
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't know, I don't know.

624
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: Side note, I've already cut contact with my stepsister, but

625
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: anytime she sees me anywhere, I mean anywhere. She literally

626
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: tried to corner me at my grandpa's viewing to try

627
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: and talk to me about it all. I'm just tired

628
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: of the apologies and nothing changing and comments coming one says,

629
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: not the a whole. If you go no contact with

630
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: your dad, he wants you to be the silent teenager

631
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: you were, show him silence like he's never seen you

632
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: were his baby girl. He remarried and then made them

633
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: a priority over you. You were suddenly bottom tier and your

634
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: silence was your only way to cope with the dramatic

635
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: changes in drama in your life. Seriously, you do not

636
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: need this in your life. You deserve to continue to

637
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: blossom and live your best life. Going no contact well

638
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: absolute remove any anxiety of notifications going off on your phone,

639
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: phone calls, obligated holidays and whatnot. If you're still wanting

640
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: to enjoy holidays with your cousin, host a small gathering

641
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: yourself and invite only who you want. Take your life back.

642
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: Ohp says I luckily don't get any invites to family

643
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: gatherings anymore, which is perfect for me. I had to

644
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: scream at my dad in the middle of dinner a

645
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: month or so back for him to leave it be

646
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: at that. But I have tried to keep the dinners

647
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: going with him. But I absolutely dread going out every time.

648
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to go anymore because I feel like

649
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: all I'm going to hear is either how I'm tearing

650
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: the family apart by not forgiving her, or he just

651
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: acts like nothing is wrong and all is going perfect

652
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: in his life. And that's the end of that story.

653
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: Folks, My boy, way, how exhausting.

654
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the no contact is the best move. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And if they ever, you know, actually apologize in a

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Speaker 2: meaningful way, maybe you can, you know, preconsider, But for

657
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Speaker 2: the time being, it seems like they just don't understand

658
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Speaker 2: or are not willing to understand.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, you just all you can control is yourself, unfortunately

660
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Speaker 3: in this situation, So just try to save your piece,

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Speaker 3: however that needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: John, Here, we're gonna get back to this juicy story,

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Speaker 1: but a quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors.

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Speaker 6: My friend's girlfriend accused me of stealing him because she

665
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Speaker 6: didn't know I was straight.

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Speaker 7: This story sounds like it's gonna have a lot of

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Speaker 7: twists and turns.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, So I just need to know if I

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Speaker 6: did something wrong, because everyone except two of my friends

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Speaker 6: think I'm in the wrong. I twenty three female met

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Speaker 6: my three friends in my first year of university. Let's

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Speaker 6: call them Abby twenty four female, Ben twenty four male,

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Speaker 6: and Charles twenty five male. We were inseparable all four years,

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Speaker 6: and since we graduated just over two years ago, we've

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Speaker 6: met up once a month for dinner or some kind

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Speaker 6: of activity. And by the way, this story comes from

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Speaker 6: user alternative Rush twenty one ninety on the Dusty Thunder subreddit,

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Speaker 6: and if you want to submit your own stories, go

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Speaker 6: to the r slash Okay storytime subredit. I'm Dakota, I'm Matt,

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Speaker 6: and Ope says partners have always been included if they

681
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Speaker 6: want to. Abby was with her girlfriend for almost three years,

682
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Speaker 6: but they broke up three months ago, and Ben's girlfriends

683
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Speaker 6: never last longer.

684
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Speaker 4: Than two weeks, so he doesn't bring them around.

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Speaker 6: However, about eight months ago, Charles started dating Danielle twenty

686
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Speaker 6: nine female. They met on a dating site and initially

687
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Speaker 6: we thought she was nice, but that she seemed a

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Speaker 6: little old for our chronically immature friend. But they seemed

689
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Speaker 6: happy and she started joining our hangouts five months ago. Personally,

690
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 6: I don't date much, so I've never brought anyone to

691
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Speaker 6: our hangouts until Saturday night about four months ago.

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Speaker 4: I started seeing Jamie twenty five male.

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Speaker 6: Jamie's real name is also a popular unisex name, and

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Speaker 6: I decided I wanted him to meet my friends. So

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Speaker 6: after our dinner in July, I texted the group chat Me, Abby, Ben,

696
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Speaker 6: and Charles and asked if it would be cool if

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Speaker 6: my new boyfriend, Jamie could join us. Everyone was excited

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Speaker 6: and couldn't wait to meet him. Anyways, we went Saturday

699
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 6: night and Jamie and I were the last to arrive.

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Speaker 6: Everyone else was just waiting in the front area of

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Speaker 6: the restaurant waiting for our table to be ready. I

702
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Speaker 6: introduced everyone and then Ben asked me about a hobby

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Speaker 6: project I've been working on. Meanwhile, Jamie is making conversation

704
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Speaker 6: with the others. I think everything is going great until

705
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 6: the hostess shows up and asks if we're waiting for

706
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Speaker 6: one more We say no, and then she goes, oh,

707
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 6: your reservation is for six?

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Speaker 4: Did someone cancel?

709
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 6: We looked around and that's when we noticed Danielle was gone.

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Speaker 6: Charles says she must have gone to the bathroom, but

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Speaker 6: he'll wait for her and come to the table when

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Speaker 6: she comes out. Ten minutes go by and still know

713
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Speaker 6: Charles or Danielle, Jamie and Ben are deep in conversation.

714
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Speaker 6: So Abby and I decide to go check on Charles

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Speaker 6: and Danielle. When we get out there, Charles is knocking

716
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 6: on the bathroom door and no one is answering. Charles

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00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 6: tells us that he called and texted Danielle and she's

718
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Speaker 6: not answering, and he's worried something happened to her. Abby's

719
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 6: a nurse, so she went into the bathroom while I

720
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 6: waited with Charles. She came out and told us no

721
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 6: one's in there. So now we're all worried. We've got

722
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 6: a case of the disappearing girlfriend. That's not good. Charles

723
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 6: calls Danielle again and this time she picks up. We

724
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 6: could tell they were having some kind of fight. So

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Speaker 6: Abby and I went back to the table to tell

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Speaker 6: Ben and Jamie that we should probably leave. Before they

727
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 6: could even stand up, Charles comes to the table and

728
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 6: told us to sit down. He said Danielle went home

729
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 6: and if she was going to be this way, he

730
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Speaker 6: wasn't going to let her ruin his night. He refused

731
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Speaker 6: to tell us why she left or what she was

732
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 6: mad about. We have a good time, but it was

733
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 6: still kind of awkward with Danielle not being there. After

734
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 6: we pay the bills, Charles asked Ben for a ride

735
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Speaker 6: home since Danielle drove him. So we went out to

736
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Speaker 6: the parking lot and Abby's parked the closest, so she

737
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Speaker 6: was gone before everything got worse.

738
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Speaker 4: This is so ominous.

739
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Speaker 7: Got worse, But like, how do you have like a

740
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Speaker 7: normal dinner after just that initial start? It's so weird.

741
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

742
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Speaker 6: I think if it's me, I would kind of be like,

743
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 6: maybe let's just like so we could still hang, Let's

744
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 6: go somewhere else, Let's change the setting.

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Speaker 4: This is now kind of weird. It feels weird.

746
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 7: It's not dinner mood. It's more like, let's just go

747
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 7: get a drink mood, like have some appetizers. Yeah, it's

748
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 7: not sit down, nice restaurant dinner, chat about things. It's

749
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 7: a all right, let's talk and drink and just.

750
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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, it's go to the bar and be like

751
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 6: let's talk about what just happened right at dinner? Okay,

752
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 6: So Abby was gone before everything got worse. I parked

753
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Speaker 6: way out in the back next to Ben. So the

754
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 6: four of us are walking all the way out when

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00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 6: Ben said, isn't that Danielle's car? And sure, enough. Danielle

756
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 6: has parked a couple of cars down from mine, and

757
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 6: she was just sitting in the driver's seat, okay. When

758
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Speaker 6: she finally noticed us, she got out and slammed the

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Speaker 6: door and started coming towards us, screaming at Charles. She

760
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 6: was screaming at him about me. She called me a

761
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 6: manipulative witch, among other things. And I didn't really know

762
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 6: what was going on, Jamie and I just left, okay.

763
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 6: Ben said he stayed for almost forty five minutes in

764
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 6: his car, waiting for Charles in case Danielle had left

765
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 6: him there. He's also confused about what happened. So yesterday morning,

766
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 6: Sunday morning, Abby asked me because she heard from Ben

767
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 6: about the fight and wanted to see what I knew.

768
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 6: She's my roommate, obviously. The three of us were still.

769
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: Clueless until eleven am, when Charles called me.

770
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Speaker 6: I put the phone on speaker so Abby could hear,

771
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 6: thinking it was just gonna be him ranting.

772
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 4: Only it wasn't. Charles was calling to tell.

773
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 6: Me that Danielle wanted an apology for me because I

774
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Speaker 6: didn't tell her I was straight.

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00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: What does that even mean?

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Speaker 7: That was not the left turn that I was expecting

777
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 7: this story to take woo oh, I.

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Speaker 6: Understand it's because she's part of the crew. It's Op, Abby,

779
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 6: Ben and Charles. Yeah, and Danielle must have assumed that

780
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 6: Op and maybe Abby were like together, so that there

781
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 6: was no possible way that she could be romantically interested

782
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 6: in her boyfriend Charles.

783
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 7: Oh, so now Danielle feels threatened. Oh my, and she

784
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 7: even though, oh, he's bringing Jamie who's a man to

785
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Speaker 7: the friend dinner.

786
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Speaker 4: Dude, that's the whole thing.

787
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Speaker 6: And she's like, how dare you have not told me

788
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 6: and made it so viciously obvious so clear to me, Girl,

789
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 6: you're not entitled to that.

790
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: And if the presence of.

791
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Speaker 6: A female who could possibly be interested in your boyfriend

792
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: makes you this violently insecure, you are not ready for

793
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 6: a relationship. So I guess Danielle assumed that I was

794
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 6: attracted to the same gender like Abby, because I've never

795
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 6: brought men around before.

796
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 4: So Abby is, but Opie is not.

797
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 6: I asked how she didn't know when I said I

798
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 6: was inviting my boyfriend, I looked and I used boyfriend,

799
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 6: and he him pronoun in the text chain.

800
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: Charles said he just used the word partner.

801
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 6: Because he tries to be inclusive, and I told him

802
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 6: that I'm not going to apologize because he didn't make

803
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 6: it clear Jamie's a boy when I did, that's his fault,

804
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 6: not mine. That's when Abby and I heard Danielle start

805
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 6: yelling in the background. Next thing we knew, she took

806
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 6: the phone and started yelling that I was a manipulative

807
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 6: witch who lied on purpose, and that I'm trying to

808
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 6: steal her man.

809
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 4: She just kept yelling at.

810
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 6: Me until I hung up. Then she texted the group

811
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 6: from Charles's phone. At least it's safe to assume it

812
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 6: was her that Charles would no longer be associating with

813
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 6: us because I am an evil witch.

814
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: Ben had no idea what was going on and called us.

815
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 6: The three of us decided that it was Charles's fault

816
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 6: for not making it clear, but Jamie was a boy,

817
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 6: and that none of this is my fault. However, Ben

818
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 6: thinks that I should apologize to Danielle for not making

819
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: my spicy preferences clearer.

820
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 7: Why is it even Charles's fault?

821
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 6: How is Danielle getting away with this? Danielle, You've been

822
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 6: for eight months. If this is how absurdly insecure. You're

823
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 6: gonna be about him being best friends with a girl

824
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 6: who likes boys who brought her boyfriend to dinner, and

825
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 6: you somehow think that's her trying to steal your man.

826
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 6: You are the one who's fully in the wrong for that.

827
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 6: What are these people on about? I'm incensed right now.

828
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 7: I can't make my brain understand where Danielle is coming

829
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 7: from and where like even like the friends are blaming

830
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 7: Charles because it's not on Charles to tell Danielle that

831
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 7: Opie is straight. That's not Charles's place. That doesn't matter.

832
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 6: Danielle just made a straight up assumption and is now

833
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 6: like viciously mad that she was wrong the whole time.

834
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 7: This is one of those situations where assuming makes a

835
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 7: donkey out of you and me.

836
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 6: Yes exactly, a number of other mutual friends have reached

837
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 6: out since yesterday afternoon, telling me that I need to

838
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 6: apologize and writing nasty comments on all of my Instagram

839
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 6: posts that includ.

840
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: Pictures of all four of us.

841
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 6: They all refuse to listen and all say that I'm

842
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 6: in love with Charles and that I'm a homewrecker trying

843
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 6: to steal him.

844
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 4: Not sure why I.

845
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 6: Would do that while I'm in a relationship but whatever,

846
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 6: or that I lied because I've been with sappok and

847
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 6: never corrected Danielle. I did not know that she thought

848
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 6: I was attracted to the same gender. I'm assuming that

849
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 6: Danielle is telling everybody that I made a pass or something.

850
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: But when Ben and Jamie heard that.

851
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 6: He burst out laughing because everyone who knows me knows

852
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 6: that Charles and Ben are more like annoying older brothers

853
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 6: to me than anything else. Now, I don't know if

854
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 6: Charles has a thing for me or not, but in

855
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 6: the last six years I've known him, He's never made

856
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 6: any kind of pass or romantic advance, so I doubt it.

857
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 6: This is a throwaway account because Charles follows my man

858
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 6: and I want to avoid getting in a fight with

859
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 6: him or Danielle on Reddit.

860
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 4: So I need to know.

861
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 6: Am I the a hole for not telling Danielle that

862
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 6: I'm straight before?

863
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: Now?

864
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 6: Should I apologize for not making it clearer? And we

865
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 6: have an update? But first, Matt, I just want to

866
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 6: really quickly introduce myself. I'm Dakota straight, super straight, straight

867
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: as an arrow, my guy.

868
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm Matt.

869
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 7: I'm very straight, as people will know I do have

870
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 7: a girlfriend at least yes.

871
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 6: Right, and now we've done our totally normal human introductions

872
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 6: that everyone does in just like that.

873
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 7: But Deakcolla, you haven't told me about your cheese preference.

874
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 7: I need to know what you think about cheese.

875
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 6: I will be as close to the best as possible

876
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 6: for the rest of my life.

877
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 7: I am offended, and I demand an apology right now.

878
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: Parmersan Reggiana, thank you.

879
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 7: I agree, we're on the same page.

880
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 6: I'm actually kind of baffled on how I would move

881
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 6: forward here.

882
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 4: First, I'd be grilling my friend who's saying.

883
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 6: Anyone telling me I need to apologize for this for

884
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 6: any other reason other than to just make peace, because

885
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 6: that's one thing. If you're just like, hey, this is insane,

886
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 6: maybe just apologize so that we can all move on

887
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 6: and get over this, because.

888
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: It's so ridiculous. All right, let's get into this update.

889
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 6: So almost everyone who originally thought I was the a

890
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 6: hole on Sunday and Monday seems to have change their minds,

891
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: because there are at least four different stories that seem

892
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 6: to originate from Charles and or Danielle. Story number one,

893
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 6: when Charles originally asked me out. I apparently flat out

894
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 6: told him that I'm attracted to the same gender, but

895
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 6: he needed to keep it a secret because I didn't

896
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 6: want my closet guarding parents to find out. Apparently my

897
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 6: two university boyfriends were beards. Apparently my two university boyfriends

898
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 6: were also beards, and that's why they didn't last long.

899
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 6: This is false for many reasons. First off, my parents

900
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 6: aren't closet guards. And if Charles asked me out when

901
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 6: he said he did, and I no longer believe he did,

902
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 6: and that's why I can't remember. Thank you to the

903
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 6: commentary who made me question if it happened, There's no

904
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 6: way I would have trusted him enough with that information.

905
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 6: Even now, I would have trusted Abby and Ben Moore.

906
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 6: Story number two. I've been telling Charles that if I

907
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 6: was ever.

908
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: To switch teams, so to speak, he.

909
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 6: Would be my first call. Apparently this is something Charles

910
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 6: told Danielle every time she got upset, when he would

911
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 6: say stuff like that's not how OP would do it,

912
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 6: or OP says, this is how you should do it.

913
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 6: Apparently he's been making comments like this in front of

914
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 6: other people. Story three. Charles and I have been sleeping

915
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 6: together the whole time, and Danielle was the other woman

916
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 6: who had no right to be upset. Also, Charles lied

917
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 6: to her about not having a girlfriend. I guess people

918
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 6: thought this because, as one of my friends pointed out,

919
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 6: every picture we're both in, he's touching me like he's

920
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 6: got an arm around my waist or over my shoulder

921
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 6: or resting his hands on my shoulders. I never noticed

922
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 6: until it was pointed out, but now I'm definitely creeped out.

923
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 6: And story four, Abby and I have been sleeping together

924
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 6: all along, and I'm the reason Abby and her ex

925
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 6: broke up, and that I broke them up on purpose

926
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 6: because I'm threatened by others disturbing our group dynamic. I

927
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 6: now also understand why she thought I was using Jamie

928
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 6: to make Charles jealous.

929
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: She thought I was using.

930
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 6: Him to make Charles make a move on me so

931
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 6: I could break them up, which makes the home record

932
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 6: comments make more sense now. But Charles knew that they

933
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 6: broke up because Abby's ex got a job in France. Honestly,

934
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 6: I don't know how Charles kept any of it straight.

935
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 6: In other news, Danielle broke up with Charles apparently not

936
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 6: one hundred percent sure, though, because Abby and Ben and

937
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 6: I still aren't talking to Charles and probably won't ever again.

938
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 6: I've heard that she found out it's all been lies, Okay,

939
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 6: So I guess they have moved forward with the assumption.

940
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 6: And I guess maybe the knowledge that Charles has been

941
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 6: spreading lies Charles and or Danielle.

942
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: But I don't like that, and or I need way

943
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: more clarity here.

944
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 7: I feel like Charles has not been completely fourth right

945
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 7: with Danielle, but I feel like Danielle has been spreading

946
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 7: dirty stories after initially finding out, and then when she realized, oh,

947
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 7: Charles has not been completely faithful to me, that's when

948
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 7: she broke it off with her.

949
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, feels like once you realize, okay, like this guy's

950
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: actually low key just waiting for this girl to.

951
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: Be available or to make a move on him, or

952
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: to want him.

953
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 6: But I don't know, it doesn't even necessarily feel like

954
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: the case to me, because he's been dating Danielle for

955
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 6: eight months and Opie's bringing their boyfriend to dinner.

956
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 4: I don't know.

957
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 6: I guess it doesn't make sense that Charles was feeding

958
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 6: Danielle with information about Ope being attracted to the same gender,

959
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 6: because then Danielle would be upset at Charles and not Opee.

960
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: So I still can't make heads or tails of where

961
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: the lies begin and end here.

962
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 6: Also, Danielle was apparently so worried about him cheating with

963
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 6: me because he cheated on his ex.

964
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 4: With her, which makes sense.

965
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 6: Why he's always had a new girlfriend right after the

966
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 6: breakup he.

967
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: Was cheating on his ex with the next one.

968
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 6: Apparently he used the excuse that he was with Abby

969
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 6: and I with his ex when he was meeting with Danielle.

970
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 6: He started saying that to her, and when she pointed

971
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 6: out that used to be code for being with her,

972
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 6: he said, well, sometimes I was with them and not you,

973
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 6: and that's what made the lie so believable. He hasn't

974
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 6: spent any more time with us than normal, so I

975
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 6: guess he's got a new one already. Honestly, as far

976
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 6: as I know, a lot of my friends realize that

977
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 6: he's creepy and manipulative and a liar. He's really exposed

978
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 6: how much of a truly awful person he is. I

979
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 6: still think Danielle pouring in her car and waiting for

980
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 6: us to come out of the restaurant was a little extreme,

981
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 6: but I think her meltdown makes more sense. Thank you

982
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 6: everyone for making me feel better about not wanting to apologize.

983
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 6: I truly thought that it was me that did something wrong,

984
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 6: but I'm glad to know I didn't.

985
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 7: My friend shows her boyfriend over me despite his awful behavior.

986
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: No, my friend, No.

987
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 7: Let's get into this. I twenty three female, went out

988
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 7: to meet Madison, twenty two female, a close friend of

989
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 7: six years. She told me her boyfriend, twenty six male,

990
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 7: would join us around three pm, but she hadn't mentioned

991
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 7: it beforehand. That was fine, though, so we continued chatting

992
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 7: until he arrived. I already knew he was a jokester,

993
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 7: but I realized it even more as we talked. By

994
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 7: the way, this comes from any Tennis fifteen forty nine.

995
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 7: And if you want to submit your own stories just

996
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 7: like this, just go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. Hi,

997
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 7: I'm Matt, I'm Dakota, and Op says, seeing that I

998
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 7: talk a lot, he made a comment asking if I

999
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 7: was a Gypsy instead of Kurdish. At first I didn't understand,

1000
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 7: but when I did, it upset me because it was

1001
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 7: clearly a discriminatory remark. I asked if he was being discriminatory,

1002
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 7: and he denied it. I persisted and he denied it more,

1003
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 7: saying that his way of bullying people is a love

1004
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 7: language he uses only with close ones. I asked if

1005
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 7: he was doing with her, which he replied, I'm doing

1006
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 7: it more with her. I let it slide, saying I understood,

1007
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 7: but my feelings were hurt. As the conversation continued, he

1008
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 7: kept touching my friend's leg, which made me uncomfortable, but

1009
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 7: I didn't say anything. He also kept making jokes directed

1010
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 7: at me, which I didn't enjoy. Still, I didn't want

1011
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 7: to ruin the mood because my friend went through a

1012
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 7: tough breakup before meeting him, and now they're planning to marry. Later,

1013
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 7: we moved to a corner and he got even worse.

1014
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 7: He was touching her even more, and while I'm usually talkative,

1015
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 7: I stayed quiet because I was already upset by the

1016
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 7: jokes due to my staring. I think he understood that

1017
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 7: I was uncomfortable. He said something about that I don't

1018
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 7: quite remember right now. It was probably like, maybe we

1019
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 7: shouldn't do it because your friend is staring. I said,

1020
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 7: it is okay, with a more serious tone. Since I

1021
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 7: was caught off guard, and since he asked, I thought

1022
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 7: I would disrupt the mood if I said, yes, I'm uncomfortable.

1023
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 6: So you're uncomfortable that they're just like physically like touching.

1024
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 6: I think it seems like a pretty low tolerance.

1025
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 7: Not gonna lie, right, It depends on what they're touching.

1026
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 7: Is is like.

1027
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 4: Like are they like touching or are they like touching

1028
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: you know?

1029
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, like are they just like rubbing leg holding hand

1030
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 7: like backscratchy?

1031
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 6: Oh god, they're rubbing leg at the public establishment, public

1032
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 6: displays of the I cannot tolerate.

1033
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 7: Despite everything, I tried to keep the mood light, but

1034
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 7: then he made a joke about me selling water at

1035
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 7: traffic lights, calling me I can sell it, and I'm

1036
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 7: like a beaster. Of course, I got offended and asked

1037
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 7: what he meant. Even my friend asked him, what are

1038
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 7: you saying? He tried to cover it up, saying, if

1039
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 7: we gave you water, you could sell it at traffic

1040
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 7: lights and people would even give you extra money because

1041
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 7: you're so persuasive. I sarcastically replied, you could have just

1042
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 7: said salesperson instead, and I laughed it off, but I

1043
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 7: was really upset, but I thought he probably couldn't articulate

1044
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 7: his thoughts, so he called me that. What pushed me

1045
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 7: over the edge was when they started whispering to each

1046
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 7: other about going to an empty house to have spicy sleep. Basically,

1047
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 7: even though they were trying to be quiet, it was

1048
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 7: obvious what they were talking about. I was already angry,

1049
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 7: and this made it worse. I felt like I didn't

1050
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 7: belong there, Like I understand that you two have spicy

1051
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 7: sleep drives, but they don't have to talk about it.

1052
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 7: When I was there, When I asked what they were

1053
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 7: talking about, he said nothing, which annoyed me more. I thought, well,

1054
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 7: then what's the point of me being here if they're

1055
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 7: going to talk quietly between each other?

1056
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 6: Okay, But at the same time, brother, like, if they

1057
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 6: had told you, oh, we're talking about going to bang

1058
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 6: in an empty house, you would have been more upset.

1059
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like I understand, and.

1060
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 6: Also the whole like, yeah, you could totally be selling

1061
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 6: water bottles at the traffic light.

1062
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 4: It's like, what do you mean by that? Yeah, you

1063
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: just politely go what do you mean? Can you explain

1064
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: that a little bit more?

1065
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 6: Until he goes, yeah, I'm trying to imply that you'd

1066
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 6: be just like a street person selling water bottles because

1067
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 6: it's demeaning in the context in which I'm presenting it.

1068
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: You go, oh, so you're trying to belittle me, not

1069
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 4: compliment me. Oh kay.

1070
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 7: I like that approach to people because it doesn't give

1071
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 7: them any wiggle room, and you're not being confrontational. You're

1072
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 7: just trying to understand what the joke is. Yeah, I

1073
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 7: just really want to understand what the joke was. I

1074
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 7: want to know why it was funny?

1075
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 4: What do you mean by that?

1076
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 7: I'm curious. I just legitimately want to know why.

1077
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 6: I just don't understand why you're equating me to selling

1078
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 6: water on the street. Why couldn't I be selling like

1079
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 6: I don't know, houses? Could I be selling jet airplanes?

1080
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 7: And why is it on the side of the street.

1081
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 7: Why can't I have a nice shop?

1082
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, why don't I have a bodega?

1083
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 7: I got up, told my friends I was leaving since

1084
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 7: we had nothing left to talk about, hugged her and

1085
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 7: walked out. Later, my friend texted me asking if I

1086
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 7: was angry, Oh, what would have given her that?

1087
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

1088
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 7: And I said yes. When I explained, she said their

1089
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 7: conversation was not about me, and she told me I

1090
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 7: was right about the jokes, and what can she say?

1091
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 7: That her boyfriend was just being friendly with his jokes

1092
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 7: and he made them because he saw me as a

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Speaker 7: seer person. I told her that they could have talked

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00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 7: about whatever they wanted after I left. What I'm thinking is,

1095
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 7: am I the a hole for taking these jokes seriously?

1096
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 7: I had problems with this during high school too. I

1097
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 7: couldn't even take it when someone would say idiot to

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00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 7: me as a joke. So am I perhaps taking myself

1099
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 7: too seriously and creating conflict out of nothing? There is

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Speaker 7: an update eight months later.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh boy. Almost a full baby. Wow, almost full baby.

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Speaker 7: After the last event, my friend and I exchanged some messages.

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00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 7: I told her everything I was upset about, and she

1104
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 7: mostly agreed. Then her boyfriend texted me. He apologized for

1105
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 7: everything in detail, didn't leave anything out, and explained everything clearly.

1106
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 7: I accepted his apology and that was the end of it.

1107
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 7: After that, I honestly can't remember when my best friend

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00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 7: and I saw each other again. She started spending every

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00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 7: single day with her boyfriend. At first, I didn't care

1110
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 7: that much. I figured they were in the honeymoon phase.

1111
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 7: But I've never been the kind of person to ignore

1112
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 7: my friends while dating. When I was in a relationship,

1113
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 7: I made sure to keep it separate from my friendships.

1114
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 7: I would not even talk about it unless my best

1115
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 7: friend specifically asked, because she was single at the time

1116
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 7: and hearing about relationships made her feel bad. I tried

1117
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 7: to be considerate, but in the end, I don't feel

1118
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 7: like I received the same in return.

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00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 6: Really quick, if we're feeling like it hurts to hear

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00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 6: about our best friend being in a relationship, now we

1121
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 6: gotta be talking.

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00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 4: We have to be clear about these things, about when

1123
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 4: we feel certain ways, about when we think.

1124
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 6: Certain ways, we have to tell them or else how

1125
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 6: would they know? Right?

1126
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 7: It's a communication. Is a two way street, yes, not

1127
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 7: giving them that leeway, how are they gonna know what

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00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 7: you're upset by?

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00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: Exactly?

1130
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 7: Once, a few months ago, I asked her to meet up.

1131
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 7: She said no and explained that all the colors in

1132
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 7: her life were disappearing when she wasn't with her boyfriend.

1133
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 7: I told her to just reach out when she felt

1134
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 7: like meeting up, and she agreed, but she never wrote

1135
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 7: to me about meeting up again. We only texted a

1136
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 7: few more times after that. One time she randomly messaged

1137
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 7: me about a girl we know from high school. I

1138
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 7: was kind of annoyed because it was so random and

1139
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 7: felt like she only texted me to gossip. I wasn't

1140
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 7: into it, and the conversation ended quickly. At that point,

1141
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 7: I stopped texting or reaching out. There was one time

1142
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 7: I initiated a conversation about meeting up during college exams.

1143
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 7: She agreed, but I never heard anything about it afterward.

1144
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 7: To be honest, I didn't even care anymore. After the exams,

1145
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 7: her sister reached out to ask if I wanted to

1146
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 7: hang out since one of her friends from another city

1147
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 7: was visiting. I went there expecting to see my best

1148
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 7: friend too, but she wasn't there. Her sister, her cousins,

1149
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 7: and her friend were all there, but not her. I

1150
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 7: later found out that she hadn't been seeing them either.

1151
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 7: One of the cousins mentioned that things had been tense

1152
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 7: at their house because my best friend had a fight

1153
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 7: with her sister. Apparently it was about the same issue

1154
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 7: her sister felt ignored. So basically, it's not just me.

1155
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 7: Everyone in her life has experienced the same thing. It's

1156
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 7: like she can't see anything outside of her boyfriend. Two

1157
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 7: weeks ago, she messaged me again, but by that point

1158
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 7: I hadn't reached out in a long time because I

1159
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 7: just didn't want to. I resented her. That conversation ended

1160
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 7: quickly too. Then today I saw a TikTok she posted

1161
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 7: that said some girl's best friends are their boyfriends, and

1162
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 7: honestly that her I was her best friend. We used

1163
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 7: to be so close. We talked about her wedding, how

1164
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 7: I'd be there as her witness, how her future kids

1165
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 7: would call me aunt, and how I'd bring them gifts.

1166
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 7: Now all of that feels shallow. There was a moment

1167
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 7: I was so pissed off that I wanted to just

1168
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 7: end it all. But then I thought about my relationship

1169
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 7: with her sister and cousin. If I cut ties with

1170
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 7: her completely, my relationship with them was probably fade two

1171
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 7: and right now I don't want that. I'm actually closer

1172
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 7: to them. We send each other videos every day. I

1173
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 7: know this friendship will end eventually, but I don't know

1174
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 7: if I should do it now just to preserve my

1175
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 7: bond with her sister and cousin. Now, let me be honest,

1176
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 7: I didn't try to save this friendship. Having open conversations

1177
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 7: about things that made us upset about our friendship was

1178
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 7: always encouraged, but I didn't do it this time. The

1179
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 7: reason is that I didn't want to beg for her

1180
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 7: time and affection. She is already not giving me any,

1181
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 7: and I didn't want it to be forced. When she

1182
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 7: texted me like last time, I didn't return it. I

1183
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 7: was kind of done with everything. I'm still not writing,

1184
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 7: and if she decided to text me now, I would

1185
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 7: literally feel nervous and wish that she didn't write me

1186
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 7: at all. So Reddit and okay, story time, what do

1187
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 7: you think? Am I the a hole? What should I do?

1188
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 7: And what would you do if you were in my shoes?

1189
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 4: There's some comment, Okay, buddy, you kind of are.

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00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 6: I would say, you're at a coin flip right now.

1191
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 6: You're like in both lanes. You can't be in both lanes.

1192
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 6: You can't be like well, I wish that she would

1193
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 6: actually prioritize our friendship and like re out to me,

1194
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 6: But then also I don't really care to ever respond

1195
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 6: to anything she says, and I don't care to maintain

1196
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 6: the friendship at this point either, because it feels like

1197
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 6: I'm begging, But the reality is is like, clearly, you're

1198
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 6: in college, she's got a boyfriend, and.

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Speaker 4: Those are already two big things to manage.

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Speaker 6: I think it's crazy that people like, you know, it's

1201
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 6: like the notion that like you just have one best friend.

1202
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 6: It's like you can have multiples. It's like your partner

1203
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 6: can be your best friend. You can have more than

1204
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 6: just one best friend. But you know, clearly this is

1205
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 6: something not just Ope is dealing with, Like her sister is.

1206
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 4: Also like, hey, where have you gone?

1207
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, sometimes people need to be told that, like, hey,

1208
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 6: I feel like we haven't like talked at all, and

1209
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 6: then they would go, oh, I need to put more

1210
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 6: effort into this.

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00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 7: I think OPI can like still maintain a friendship with

1212
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 7: the sister and the cousin even if OPI isn't friends.

1213
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 4: With Yeah, that's a good point. I was going to

1214
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 4: say that that is so true.

1215
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 7: If the sister's also not talking to them, they're all

1216
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 7: on the same boat. They can be friends without.

1217
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 6: Your friendship with these other relatives of your ex best friend.

1218
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 6: I guess at this point aren't dependent entirely on y'all

1219
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 6: being friends.

1220
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 7: Clearly, All right, let's get into the comments, comment one. Unfortunately,

1221
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 7: your friend is on the rebound from her previous breakup

1222
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 7: and is apparently willing to put up with this low

1223
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 7: life just to satisfy her need for attention or a distraction.

1224
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 7: You are right not to lower your own standards for

1225
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 7: her or anyone else. Distance yourself from her till she

1226
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 7: dumps this loser. Harsh but fair comment too, not the

1227
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 7: a hole. What he did from the start was make

1228
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 7: his goal to make you uncomfortable for fun. She chose

1229
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 7: real low for a rebound. She put rose colored glasses

1230
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 7: on until they come off. This will be an endless circle.

1231
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: Hey, it's sam og host. We're gonet back to these

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Speaker 1: delectable stories. But here's three minutes of ads from our

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Speaker 1: sponsors to help support the show.

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Speaker 4: I ditched my friend because he treated me like a maid.

1235
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 7: The ditch is not the sitch you want to be in. Friend. Yeah,

1236
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 7: get ditched, don't get ditched.

1237
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 6: For some context, I am twenty five female dating my

1238
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 6: now fiance, twenty six male. We live in an area

1239
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 6: that's really high cost of living and have two other roommates,

1240
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 6: Neil and Sonny, who are both male and also in

1241
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 6: their mid to late twenties, not sure of their age.

1242
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 6: They were more my fiance's friends than mine to begin with.

1243
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 6: And by the way, this comes from sinebun Bun ninety

1244
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 6: nine and if you want to submit your own stories,

1245
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 6: go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit where this

1246
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 6: story came from.

1247
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 4: So I'm Dakota.

1248
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 6: Hi, I'm mat and Op says, for a lot of background,

1249
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 6: I have four cats, all my babies, and understandably my responsibility.

1250
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 6: I take on a more traditional housewife role in our relationship.

1251
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 6: He does the nine to five and I work almost

1252
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 6: full time, my hours ranging from twenty to forty hours

1253
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 6: based on if they need me, and I cook his

1254
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 6: meals and clean the house. We always try and balance

1255
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 6: our weeks. If one person is more burnt out than

1256
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 6: the other, we trade on who cleans and cooks and

1257
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 6: so on and so forth. We stayed with Neil for

1258
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 6: a little bit in a different house before moving to

1259
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 6: the new one, to see what he was about and

1260
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 6: see if we could coexist. We threw out a ca

1261
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 6: vouch for him and let his friend Liam in his

1262
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 6: mid twenties mail move in too. Neil vouched for Liam

1263
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 6: and swore up and down to us that he would

1264
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 6: be able to pay rent. Liam was late twice, so reasonably,

1265
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 6: when the lease was up, we didn't want him moving

1266
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 6: to the next spot. Neil understood and told us he

1267
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 6: would talk to him about being removed from the lease

1268
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 6: for the next property. My fiance and I were not

1269
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 6: there for that conversation, but Neil said he took it well.

1270
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 6: Since this isn't the main story, the TLDR is that

1271
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 6: Liam tried to blackmail us after we had all parted ways.

1272
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 6: So bad guy Liam. Liam not a very cool vibe

1273
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 6: kind of guy.

1274
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 7: Blackmail is just always so icky to me, you know,

1275
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 7: like you know things about somebody, like ha, I know

1276
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 7: you well enough that I'm gonna use your own life

1277
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 7: against you.

1278
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 4: That's what I wonder is it's like blackmailing in what way?

1279
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 6: Like what could this guy who was basically crashing on

1280
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 6: the couch have against you?

1281
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 7: I know what kind of sandwich spread you?

1282
00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: Like?

1283
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 4: I know, yes, sandwich order?

1284
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 6: In between us house hunting for a new spot from

1285
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 6: the old one, since the old one was a bit

1286
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 6: out of budget with not enough parking. I would gather

1287
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 6: lists of properties and email them to my fiance and

1288
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 6: Neil to select properties. And let me know which ones

1289
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 6: I can set up for viewing. Neil told my fiance

1290
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 6: that what I was doing was too tedious and he

1291
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 6: had explained to me already what he wants and that

1292
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 6: I should just be looking for his needs too. The

1293
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 6: reason I had set up the communication this way was

1294
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 6: because me and my fiance have different needs and wants

1295
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 6: compared to him, and it's easier if he just tells

1296
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 6: me which properties fit his needs, or if he wanted

1297
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 6: to make suggestions.

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Speaker 4: I was open, but he didn't.

1299
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 6: He waited for me to send the list, pick a

1300
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 6: few he liked, and then complained to my fiance that

1301
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 6: it wasn't what he wanted without making a suggestion of

1302
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 6: other properties. This happened for at least two months, as

1303
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 6: we live in a densely populated area and I started

1304
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 6: looking ahead of time. In addition to this, since I

1305
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 6: had to throw out a whole seven seater couch, I

1306
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 6: was asking for some kind of reimbursement on my five

1307
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 6: hundred dollars couch. He offered me fifty bucks for the

1308
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 6: section we had to throw out so his desk could

1309
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 6: fit in our space. We even paid for his movers

1310
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 6: since he had to move in with us as a

1311
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 6: show of good faith. When I started hounding him on

1312
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 6: what he owed me, he started to call me spastic

1313
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 6: and anxious behind my back to my fiance, who quickly

1314
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 6: set Neil straight and told him to stop talking poorly

1315
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 6: about me to him behind my back. Yeah, buddy, I

1316
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 6: think you need to learn this thing called a target audience.

1317
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 6: It's not going to be their fiance when you're down

1318
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 6: talking them, or at least it shouldn't absolutely crazy move

1319
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 6: of you.

1320
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 7: Also fifty dollars on a five hundred dollars couch. What

1321
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 7: kind of reimbursement is that?

1322
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 4: She's like, well, I paid you ten percent, that's the

1323
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 4: standard rate.

1324
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 6: He also, my fiance informed me that this was happening,

1325
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 6: which made me wary of Neil. I told my partner

1326
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 6: to give it some time and maybe he gets better,

1327
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 6: since maybe we're all just under a lot of stress

1328
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 6: due to moving. I also tend to be very blunt,

1329
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 6: which sometimes can come off as rude, and I can

1330
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 6: see how we might all be pushing each other's buttons

1331
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 6: right now.

1332
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 4: Fast forward to the current situation. We moved to the

1333
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 4: next spot.

1334
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 6: With our millet terry friend Sonny and Neil and things

1335
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 6: were peaceful for a bit. Sonny was projected to leave

1336
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 6: in the middle of the year, which we all discussed

1337
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 6: and said was fine since he said he would contribute

1338
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 6: more to rent, more than half of the rent, so

1339
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 6: that we can save and be able to pay for

1340
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 6: the remaining few months when he was gone. He ended

1341
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 6: up staying past his projected leaving day, and during all this,

1342
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 6: my fiance got deployed and was not going to be

1343
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 6: home for six months. I was devastated. I had never

1344
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 6: been away from my partner for longer than maybe a

1345
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 6: few months prior. I became extremely depressed and developed a

1346
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 6: drinking habit, which I have since gotten over since he

1347
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 6: is back home. I understand how I acted at that

1348
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 6: time was not the best, but I was working full

1349
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 6: time and doing overtime at this time due to one

1350
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 6: of my coworkers leaving, and still trying to maintain composure

1351
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 6: in the work area and with friends. I didn't want

1352
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 6: them to know how deeply I was struggling. My partner

1353
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 6: was deployed during the holiday season, so as much as

1354
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 6: I could, I surrounded myself with friends. During Thanksgiving, I

1355
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 6: made a meal for my friends and we had a

1356
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 6: great friends giving and had drinks together. I cleaned up

1357
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 6: what I could that night, being wasted, and then went

1358
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 6: to bed. The next day, Neil started calling and texted me,

1359
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 6: telling me I needed to clean my mess in the kitchen.

1360
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 6: I told him to give me some time as I'm

1361
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 6: still a little hungover, but I would clean it, which

1362
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 6: I did. However, I did not like him telling me

1363
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 6: to clean it up before I was even awake to

1364
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 6: clean my mess. He had never done anything like this

1365
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 6: prior to my fiance leaving, and it felt wildly out

1366
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 6: of character.

1367
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 4: This happened again on Christmas.

1368
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 6: I told him to give me time to clean up

1369
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 6: before he starts bothering me with this, because more than

1370
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 6: likely I will clean it. Neil just didn't give me

1371
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 6: any time to clean before he started telling me to

1372
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 6: do it on his time.

1373
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 7: What time is it though, like as Op admits, there's

1374
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 7: still a little hungover after a late night partying. Like,

1375
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 7: what time is it in the day? Is it like

1376
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 7: two pm? And they need to cook or do things

1377
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 7: in the kitchen and your stuff is still piled up there?

1378
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 7: How big is the mess? You said you tried to

1379
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 7: clean up what you could. What does that mean? Does

1380
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 7: it just mean you picked up like cups and stuff

1381
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 7: and they're still like plates and everything, and then pots are.

1382
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 6: I have a feeling this has to do more with

1383
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 6: your drinking habits as well. I feel like Neil probably

1384
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 6: could you know, Opie even said like, you know, this

1385
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 6: time it was bad, right and I got over it,

1386
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 6: but I probably wasn't acting the best. So Neil's probably

1387
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 6: seeing this this drinking problem and then attributing it and

1388
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 6: then feeling like that gives him the green flag to

1389
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 6: be like a little more aggressive about her behavior or

1390
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 6: her character, which.

1391
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 7: Is not great.

1392
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 4: No, no, not at all. I think it's a power

1393
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: dynamic thing for sure. Yeah.

1394
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 7: Yeah. And with the power dynamic though, still it's like, Okay,

1395
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 7: there's a limit to where I think you can give

1396
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 7: op grace. But also at some point, yo, I need

1397
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 7: the kitchen clean up your stuff. Also, what was his

1398
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 7: demeanor in saying, hey, you need to clean it? If

1399
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 7: it's just like, hey, can you clean up your stuff?

1400
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 7: I need it? Or is it like you need to

1401
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 7: clean this right now? Yeah, that's crazy the second screw you, Neil.

1402
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 7: If it's the first, Okay, they're just telling you to

1403
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 7: clean up your stuff.

1404
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 6: Come on, Neil, what are you doing? Yeah, definitely. I

1405
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 6: wonder if Neil would be saying this if Opie's was

1406
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 6: still here.

1407
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 7: Probably not, because Op's partners already set him to Yeah, like,

1408
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 7: you don't talk to my fiance like this.

1409
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 4: Au me so exactly. She's trying to power play right now.

1410
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 4: All right, let's let's keep going.

1411
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 6: So he would text me early morning after events, when

1412
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 6: he would be drinking or eating with us as well.

1413
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 6: I started feeling weird about how he was telling me

1414
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 6: to do things like I was his partner, like he

1415
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 6: could tell me what to do just because my man

1416
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 6: wasn't around.

1417
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 4: My fiance agreed, since this was never something Neil did prior.

1418
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 4: He barely spoke to me.

1419
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 6: At the same time, Neil kept swearing up and down

1420
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 6: that he would clear out items in the living room

1421
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 6: he had set up too. He never did, and I

1422
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 6: never bothered him about it because I understood we were

1423
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 6: all operating on our times because we lived different lifestyles

1424
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 6: in our up or in bed at different.

1425
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 4: Times, so catching up too.

1426
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 6: Recently, Neil and Liam started hanging out, and Neil even

1427
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 6: brought him inside the house while I was home and

1428
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 6: my fiance was deployed. I told Liam he needed to

1429
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 6: leave due to how he left the last situation, and

1430
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 6: he was not welcome inside the house while I am home.

1431
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 6: Neil later apologized and I asked him what made him

1432
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 6: so comfortable bringing people that blackmailed us into the house.

1433
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 4: He did not have a response.

1434
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 6: I left it at that, but ended up blocking his

1435
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 6: numbers so that he couldn't speak to me as I

1436
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 6: was growing increasingly more uncomfortable since Neil was directly involved

1437
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 6: with the situation with Liam. I felt uncomfortable with someone

1438
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 6: who knew what happened and still offered to bring someone

1439
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 6: who clearly doesn't appreciate or my fiance into my house.

1440
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 6: I started stonewalling him and not giving him any more

1441
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 6: info and keeping things as minimal as possible. It eventually

1442
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 6: turned into just not talking to him at all. A

1443
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 6: couple of weeks later, Neil says he's working a deal

1444
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 6: with the landlord and that he'll be moving out, which

1445
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,959
Speaker 6: I was fine with. I was happy, even I didn't

1446
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 6: want to be his roommate any longer. The TLDR is

1447
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 6: that the deal fell through and he could not find

1448
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 6: a new roommate in time, and now our lease is

1449
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 6: up and my fiance and I are moving out just us,

1450
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 6: no roommates. Sounds perfect. Congratulations, you have done exactly what

1451
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 6: I would have suggested to do, which is find a

1452
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 6: place for you, you and your fiance to live. Just deal

1453
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 6: with when one guy your guy, Okay.

1454
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 7: And also, like I believe, when you're in the military,

1455
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 7: if you're not staying on base, you get some money

1456
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 7: for a housing stipend, so that should help you. Also,

1457
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 7: so with his salary. With yeah, you're both working, you

1458
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 7: should hopefully be able to find a place that like

1459
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 7: you two can be together and you don't have to

1460
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 7: worry about like the stress of dealing with someone's other

1461
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 7: schedule or their baggage or whatever.

1462
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, you know, we don't know the

1463
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 6: situation with Liam, but it is true if someone like

1464
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 6: straight up blackmailed you and Neil knew about it, and

1465
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 6: you just was like gonna bring Liam over and it's like.

1466
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 4: Hey, whoa my arch enemy. You are not welcome in

1467
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 4: my home.

1468
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 7: Get out.

1469
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 4: You're crazy. Why did you do that?

1470
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 7: If I took a bag of lawn shrimp and just

1471
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 7: dump them on your bed to go to.

1472
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 4: We've got so many lawn shrimp guys, so many lawn shrimp.

1473
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 4: There's actually not that many today, but they just are

1474
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: always here.

1475
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 6: I don't know where they come from anyway, lawn shrimp aside,

1476
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 6: let's finish this story. He tried to approach me to

1477
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 6: ask if we were renting or buying. I told him

1478
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 6: that doesn't matter and left the conversation. At that, Neil

1479
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 6: started telling Sonny, who is close with my fiance, that

1480
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 6: I told him it doesn't efting matter, painting.

1481
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 4: Me as the aggressor.

1482
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 6: My fiance quickly called him out for that, to which

1483
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 6: he had no response for his wrongdoings. I recently found

1484
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 6: out he might be moving back in with his parents

1485
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 6: since Neil can't find a roommate in time. And I

1486
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 6: don't feel bad since he needed us to maintain his

1487
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 6: lifestyle but was too comfortable with taking from us without

1488
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 6: giving in return. He never cleaned the kitchen, a shared space.

1489
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 6: I cleaned the stovetops and cleared off the counters and

1490
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 6: organized all our stuff so it could fit in the kitchen,

1491
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 6: and was in charge of cleaning the living room as well.

1492
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 6: He only cleaned the bathroom, and he only cleaned it

1493
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 6: when he was bringing girls over.